jiaoqiu deserved to be in T0.5 in purefiction. His stacks doesn't go to waste when new enemies or new wave come in, the best purefiction debuffer in the game
100% agreed, he basically makes Acheron and Dots characters like BS/Kafka T0 in PF too soo yeah put my guy to T0.5 at least even if personally I think he's T0 tbh
Honestly that would still be damning because he is MOST designed for PF. tbh the T0.5 shouldn't exist and he should be in T1 w/ all the people in T0.5. Like Fu Xuan is only there because she's a sustainer that is not bad like Luocha not because she brings so much to the table that she makes your runs easier...she doesn't.
@@gerfe2 I disagree. Even if there is no T0.5 he doesn't deserve to be in T1 and here is why. He is currently in the same tier with pela, yeah she has aoe debuff but once those debuff enemies die and new enemies or wave come in there is no debuff. That why Jiaoqiu is so much better than her no matter new enemies or wave his debuffs will still be there. That is the same reason why ruan mei and robin are in the top because no matter new enemies or wave come in their buffs are still there. Consistency is key for Pure fiction and Jiaoqiu excel that
Still think he is better than people think he is, his vulnerability rebuff is the best and only reliable one in the game. It’s permanent with enough ER which also means his ultimate buff is permanent to!
Agreed. I think he's underrated as hell right now. He feels like a ginormous buff. He can rven buff break and superbreak damage.. I think he's lieka. Nihility Ruan mei. He deserve to be at least one tier higher imo.
I know they say it's their initial placing, but either SW needs to go down or Jiaoqiu needs to go up. SW and him and not in the same tier imo. He's not T0, but SW and Pela should be in the same tier and he's one tier above them imho. Idk who at Prydwen is the biggest SW glazer, but yeah... E0 SW is not that amazing
Here is my take, if you have Achron and are clearing contents left and right with your team right now then you don't really need this unless you wanna perfect score pure fiction (which in my option is kinda clickbait for newer characters) otherwise i would really just be smart and save for flexi or be like me and wait for fate/stay collab lol
Yeah I agree. I like SW however the end game in HSR is very Aoe and SW is very single target. For an Acheron team if I have to select between the duos, SW Pela, Jiaqiou SW and Jiaqiou Pela, I would prefer the duo Jiaqiou Pela without any dude.
jiaoqiu is best in slot for acheron and 2nd best option to many teams that what makes him top many characters and the insane part is that his value will go up further once we get more characters that benefits from a lot of debuffs like acheron or other units that focuse on ult dmg.
Hes so good, like ridiculously so. Got him and lc and my teams are doing practically double damage. 12 starred pf, and could probably max other endgames with good rng. Keep in mind I've got no limited harmony I think he should be in the same tier as Sparkle. So either put him up, or raise robin because robin deserves the same tier as rm
I want him for my Acheron but lost to Yanqing. It's not that I desperate to get him bcs I already have Sw, e6 Pela Kafka & Bs. It looks like my guarantee will be going to Feixiao
Same, lost to e1 Gepard so me e0s0 Acheron will have to do with SW and Ruan Mei or Sparkle, maybe I'll use that annoying Pela and even if I get him no lightcone for him
it actually depends on what superimposition your "Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat" light cone is at. - at S1 it only has 60% base chance to apply the debuff. And if you are using Pela on an Acheron team. - this light cone is a requirement to guarantee even her basic attacks apply debuffs
Dude you don't Notice that, Pela Got Buff. Jiaoqiu & Pela Work very well Together, the are Not Replacing one or other. The working In the Same Team. Also Def Down IS worse than, Jiaoqiu Debuff (Vulnerable)
I'm guessing you missed the part where i recommend using them on the same team. And that on certain team comps, you can us JQ instead of her. Which is true. - there was 0 Pela hate in this video. I even spent time glazing her up
I'd be curious to see how good Jiaoqiu is in non-Acheron teams, since he boosts ultimate damage quite a bit... maybe with Yunli, or with Argenti in PF.
As a Jiaoqiu haver, I would say he does well with other teams, but as either a side or downgrade. In Yunli's team, Sparkle or Tingyun is better alongside Robin. In Argenti teams Ruan Mei/Robin with Tingyun is better. I think he could be good in a Dr. Ratio hypercarry comp tho, but tbh Pela is maybe better, especially if you have Dr. Ratio's S1 and Dr. Ratio's main source of damage isn't his ultimate, but rather his FuA's. I could see him going in some 0 cycle/sustainless comps, but he's not replacing anyone else's ideal teammates currently, other than on the Acheron team.
@@The_CodFish69 yeah he provides more consistent debuffs, especially at E0S0. I'm a bit of dolphin/whale, so my Topaz at E1S1 is better, but that's a good bit of investment most players won't have.
Cough cough I mean considering sparkle is so highly rated even if many of her comps would be better with bronya and jiaoqiu is equally as limited I can only see him being equal to sparkle at least, but then again they haven't actually ranked him yet and they acknowledge it isn't accurate yet
Ya he deserves 0.5 and honestly Sparkle has been doing nothing in is 2.x meta post Acheron and FF especially with Robin stealing all of her BIS teams away ( Including Acheron with JQ release ) so i think its time to drop her down and replacing her with JQ makes a lot of sense IMO of course. Because ill be honest even tho bro isn't a BIS on other teams hes more useful then Sparkle currently and with leaks of a possible Nihi wave incoming his value will keep on rising meanwhile Sparkle is stuck until a new SP hungry DPS is released because both Robin and Bronya can do her job in the current Meta but better so if a new wave of HC DPS release it may not actually buff her that much. And lastly an HM with the SU Lc bro is a PF monster and him + Acheron is a actual threat now and i think he single Handedly can push Acheron up a half tier in PF and bro actually deserves Tier 0 of not 0.5 at least.
True, she works well only with older hypercarries and maybe yunli. I feel like prydwen is leaning into hate or something, often feels like those lists are popularity contest. Silverwolf shouldn't even be close to him also. Aaaand imo acheron without him shouldn't be at t0, since firefly smokes her (imo).
I was really wondering if its worth it, but he halved my cycles on acheron team (or even more, went from 5 cycles with silverwolf to 1 on first side of moc12). Though I think the lc on him is almost mandatory for how strong it is. Hoyo is really getting cheeky with the lightcone powercreep...
I know people say you don't need him for more damage coz we already have Robin/Sparkle but at least he cripples the enemy and they stay crippled for GOOD.
if you dont have any other dps for 2nd team then go for feixiao but keep in mind that you will need to invest a lot for a FuA team. Acheron will be great even without jq if you use pela with silverwolf and you could invest more to other team. moze will be a fantastic support for a fua team with feixiao and he will be a rate up with her so you could get his ediolons.
If you don't have a 2nd team then deffo go for Feixiao, then u can always get Jiaoqiu on his rerun. You'll have March 7th e6 alongsids your Robin and Aventurine so you're good already, and you might be able to pull a couple of copies of Moze who seems to be almost as good as Topaz for Feixiao (and Ratio). Also there are rumors that Topaz will rerun in the 2nd half of 2.5 so you could complete your team this way, tho don't quote me on that.
jiaoqiu deserved to be in T0.5 in purefiction. His stacks doesn't go to waste when new enemies or new wave come in, the best purefiction debuffer in the game
yeah and he has a technique that works with like any team. Bro is actually popping off
100% agreed, he basically makes Acheron and Dots characters like BS/Kafka T0 in PF too soo yeah put my guy to T0.5 at least even if personally I think he's T0 tbh
Honestly that would still be damning because he is MOST designed for PF.
tbh the T0.5 shouldn't exist and he should be in T1 w/ all the people in T0.5. Like Fu Xuan is only there because she's a sustainer that is not bad like Luocha not because she brings so much to the table that she makes your runs easier...she doesn't.
@@gerfe2 He is most designed for Acheron, not for Pure fiction, it appears that he is extremely in this mode but that's it
@@gerfe2 I disagree. Even if there is no T0.5 he doesn't deserve to be in T1 and here is why. He is currently in the same tier with pela, yeah she has aoe debuff but once those debuff enemies die and new enemies or wave come in there is no debuff. That why Jiaoqiu is so much better than her no matter new enemies or wave his debuffs will still be there.
That is the same reason why ruan mei and robin are in the top because no matter new enemies or wave come in their buffs are still there. Consistency is key for Pure fiction and Jiaoqiu excel that
Still think he is better than people think he is, his vulnerability rebuff is the best and only reliable one in the game. It’s permanent with enough ER which also means his ultimate buff is permanent to!
Agreed. I think he's underrated as hell right now. He feels like a ginormous buff. He can rven buff break and superbreak damage.. I think he's lieka. Nihility Ruan mei. He deserve to be at least one tier higher imo.
I know they say it's their initial placing, but either SW needs to go down or Jiaoqiu needs to go up. SW and him and not in the same tier imo. He's not T0, but SW and Pela should be in the same tier and he's one tier above them imho. Idk who at Prydwen is the biggest SW glazer, but yeah... E0 SW is not that amazing
Here is my take, if you have Achron and are clearing contents left and right with your team right now then you don't really need this unless you wanna perfect score pure fiction (which in my option is kinda clickbait for newer characters) otherwise i would really just be smart and save for flexi or be like me and wait for fate/stay collab lol
Jiaqiou and SW in same tier????
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Shit don't make sense. At E0 SW and Jiaoqiu are most definitely NOT in the same tier lol
Yea one of the dumbest rankings I’ve seen thus far and I actually like SW.
sw needs to go down jq is good at t1
Yeah I agree. I like SW however the end game in HSR is very Aoe and SW is very single target. For an Acheron team if I have to select between the duos, SW Pela, Jiaqiou SW and Jiaqiou Pela, I would prefer the duo Jiaqiou Pela without any dude.
Theres a lot of flaws in this teir list
jiaoqiu is best in slot for acheron and 2nd best option to many teams that what makes him top many characters and the insane part is that his value will go up further once we get more characters that benefits from a lot of debuffs like acheron or other units that focuse on ult dmg.
Hes so good, like ridiculously so. Got him and lc and my teams are doing practically double damage. 12 starred pf, and could probably max other endgames with good rng. Keep in mind I've got no limited harmony
I think he should be in the same tier as Sparkle. So either put him up, or raise robin because robin deserves the same tier as rm
I literally cleared MOC for the first time because of Jiaoqiu
Cool what team did u use?
what was full line up?
I want him for my Acheron but lost to Yanqing. It's not that I desperate to get him bcs I already have Sw, e6 Pela Kafka & Bs. It looks like my guarantee will be going to Feixiao
I lost to fcking Bailu. So I need like another 60 roll to get him
Same, lost to e1 Gepard so me e0s0 Acheron will have to do with SW and Ruan Mei or Sparkle, maybe I'll use that annoying Pela and even if I get him no lightcone for him
Same lost to E2 yanqing and went back in with my last 20 and got him but those were for his lc
Tingyun was the best support on launch did not take a year?
7:25 My brother in christ pela only needs 67% EHR (57% if you have her trace unlocked) 💀💀💀
it actually depends on what superimposition your "Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat" light cone is at.
- at S1 it only has 60% base chance to apply the debuff.
And if you are using Pela on an Acheron team.
- this light cone is a requirement to guarantee even her basic attacks apply debuffs
@@PancakeBreakfast Doesn't Pela's E4 also give an ice res reduction? That works too for acheron.
Dude you don't Notice that, Pela Got Buff.
Jiaoqiu & Pela Work very well Together, the are Not Replacing one or other.
The working In the Same Team.
Also Def Down IS worse than, Jiaoqiu Debuff (Vulnerable)
I'm guessing you missed the part where i recommend using them on the same team.
And that on certain team comps, you can us JQ instead of her. Which is true.
- there was 0 Pela hate in this video. I even spent time glazing her up
I'd be curious to see how good Jiaoqiu is in non-Acheron teams, since he boosts ultimate damage quite a bit... maybe with Yunli, or with Argenti in PF.
As a Jiaoqiu haver, I would say he does well with other teams, but as either a side or downgrade. In Yunli's team, Sparkle or Tingyun is better alongside Robin. In Argenti teams Ruan Mei/Robin with Tingyun is better. I think he could be good in a Dr. Ratio hypercarry comp tho, but tbh Pela is maybe better, especially if you have Dr. Ratio's S1 and Dr. Ratio's main source of damage isn't his ultimate, but rather his FuA's. I could see him going in some 0 cycle/sustainless comps, but he's not replacing anyone else's ideal teammates currently, other than on the Acheron team.
Hes a beast in the Dr. R team and can actually compare with well against Topass.
@@The_CodFish69 yeah he provides more consistent debuffs, especially at E0S0. I'm a bit of dolphin/whale, so my Topaz at E1S1 is better, but that's a good bit of investment most players won't have.
@@nikonFB1988why not just put him and tingyun with Argenti?
@@shutup1037 with Argenti and Yunli you will definitely need HouHou. I tested e1s1 with Yunli and I liked it more than the team with Sparkle
Cough cough I mean considering sparkle is so highly rated even if many of her comps would be better with bronya and jiaoqiu is equally as limited I can only see him being equal to sparkle at least, but then again they haven't actually ranked him yet and they acknowledge it isn't accurate yet
Ya he deserves 0.5 and honestly Sparkle has been doing nothing in is 2.x meta post Acheron and FF especially with Robin stealing all of her BIS teams away ( Including Acheron with JQ release ) so i think its time to drop her down and replacing her with JQ makes a lot of sense IMO of course.
Because ill be honest even tho bro isn't a BIS on other teams hes more useful then Sparkle currently and with leaks of a possible Nihi wave incoming his value will keep on rising meanwhile Sparkle is stuck until a new SP hungry DPS is released because both Robin and Bronya can do her job in the current Meta but better so if a new wave of HC DPS release it may not actually buff her that much.
And lastly an HM with the SU Lc bro is a PF monster and him + Acheron is a actual threat now and i think he single Handedly can push Acheron up a half tier in PF and bro actually deserves Tier 0 of not 0.5 at least.
True, she works well only with older hypercarries and maybe yunli. I feel like prydwen is leaning into hate or something, often feels like those lists are popularity contest. Silverwolf shouldn't even be close to him also. Aaaand imo acheron without him shouldn't be at t0, since firefly smokes her (imo).
I just pulled for him, and i dont even have acheron. I dont know what the hell am i doing
I was really wondering if its worth it, but he halved my cycles on acheron team (or even more, went from 5 cycles with silverwolf to 1 on first side of moc12). Though I think the lc on him is almost mandatory for how strong it is. Hoyo is really getting cheeky with the lightcone powercreep...
The amount of injustice that ruan mid licker Prydwen put on robin by not placing her at t0 needs to be clocked ngl
Every charcter charges the teirlist
I know people say you don't need him for more damage coz we already have Robin/Sparkle but at least he cripples the enemy and they stay crippled for GOOD.
I just don’t like robin or Ron mei tbh 😅 I’m happier using my E1 jiaoqiu, E6 ting, or E0 SW tbh
E6 Guinaifen Explosions and dot + Sampo Ultimate ability= Jiaoqiu.
Definittly deserve on this place.
Jiaoqiu is for Blackswan kafka team.
Didn't get him on my main account, but got him on my Acheron account, actually popping off
Also, do you mind dropping the discord server link?
I need some advice here, should i pull jq to replace my e1 sw in acheron team or go for a new team archetype in FuA with feixiao
if you dont have any other dps for 2nd team then go for feixiao but keep in mind that you will need to invest a lot for a FuA team. Acheron will be great even without jq if you use pela with silverwolf and you could invest more to other team. moze will be a fantastic support for a fua team with feixiao and he will be a rate up with her so you could get his ediolons.
@@vedangjaithalya2675 i already have aven and robin but not topaz, so what is the next best option, moze or march? Or just wait it out for topaz rerun
@@MagicalNigachuMoze is better for Feixiao than march
If you really want to upgrade your Acheron team, go for it. The stacks he gives to Acheron is crazy, really upped my Acheron team. Removed SW sadly.
If you don't have a 2nd team then deffo go for Feixiao, then u can always get Jiaoqiu on his rerun.
You'll have March 7th e6 alongsids your Robin and Aventurine so you're good already, and you might be able to pull a couple of copies of Moze who seems to be almost as good as Topaz for Feixiao (and Ratio). Also there are rumors that Topaz will rerun in the 2nd half of 2.5 so you could complete your team this way, tho don't quote me on that.
Coping on Jiaoqiu 🗿
Is in right place is mid support
You’re coping pal