I will forever be grateful for getting Bailu as my first 5-star, she literally kept my team alive for a long time, and carried me all the way until endgame... And then bowing out just as I picked up Fu Xuan. I still love her, she's so adorable! ...but she's unlikely to ever see the battlefield again...
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My first 5 star in genshin was qiqi, my first 5 star in star rail was bailu ,both time i looked at tier list and say damn, she's pretty good, then use her and they were pretty good then eventually fall of a cliff, its weird that it happens twice
yeah, Bailu was my first 5 star and used her up until Penacony where she was falling off hard, but i only had Natasha and Lynx, i hated Lynx so i never built her, then got Gallagher and swapped out Bailu out for Gallagher and never looked back, kinda sad how bad Bailu is that i also was thinking of pulling for HuoHuo for how much better she is than Bailu, HuoHuo has no RNG heals, it has heals when doing an attack rather than being hit which is debatable on what is better, HuoHuo also has cleanses and attack up buffs when doing her heal and ect
At least Bailu works out of the gate unlike Yanqing, who doesn’t even work if you don’t have a good perservation unit to keep him from losing buffs, and even in the cutscenes keeps taking L’s
And both are loli chatacters who then get replaced by another loli healer that becomes more Meta than they do. Diona with Qiq as healer + shielder + cryo. And Lynx with Cleanse, HP boost and Aggro.
That what happens when character can provide only defensive utility, even Luocha is falling off as a sustain pick when characters like Galagher can provide just little less healing for a 200k dmg nuking ult in a break team.
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On release, I said “Bailu will become the Qiqi of Star Rail” and people told me I was wrong cause there’d always be a need for sustain in a turn-based game. But I thought she’d be quickly outclassed by any limited 5* sustain cause she only did healing and there’s not that big of a need for sustain characters in the first place. You only really need 2 sustains, so as long as you pick 2 that give more than just healing, she’d be outmatched. It’s not like harmony characters, where having multiple can help
i'd say its quite the opposite with genshin, the game's so easy that you can very well just use qiqi for the rest of your life, you'll miss on a few primogems from the spiral abyss and that's that. in hsr there's way more hard content than in genshin, and you somewhat have to keep up with the meta whether you want to or not.
@@neanahidden i have c5 qiqi and e4 bailu, can confirm. at least bailu has a decent e4 i guess. considering i have c5 jean too, i think healers love me a bit too much
@@archersterling6726Nah. Most characters already cleanse and have better 4 or 5 star lcs so it just be kinda useless except for e0 gallagher and bailu.
because she stays true to the abundance class and only provides heals and nothing else other healers nowadays have quirks like natasha's cleanse, lynx's max hp bonus and synergy with people who want to get hit like blade/yunli/clara, luocha has buff dispel, gallagher powering break teams, huohuo having a harmony ultimate not to mention if you're doing simulated/divergent universe, some blessings straight up revive you, and outside of those gamemodes, if you have to use bailu's revive, the fight's not going in your favor in the first place.
I will say that regarding her revive some enemies can straight up burst your units down even from full hp, so Bailu having that revive can come in handy, especially for MoC.
It have been long time already . Isn't Natasha clean with her skill & ult ? Luocha buff removal . Does the new Xianzhou enemy buff removable ? I rarely see it being useful because endgame content tend to have unremovable debuff & you might waste it because his ult is his auto healing source .
Haven’t watched yet, here’s my guess: 1. She has no cleanse or eff res boost in her kit 2. Bounce Heal Lmao 3. Her healing is eclipsed by limited 5-stars 4. Shielding is often just better than healing 5. More recent sustain character offer far more utility beyond simple healing (Luocha’s auto/field healing, Huohuo’s battery utility, Gal’s break buffs, and Aven’s follow ups and debuffs) Edit: Yep, I was pretty much correct
For me, her bounce healing was the most annoying part of her. I don't mind her not cleansing and I appreciate her revive (saved me tons of times) but I SWEAR everytime I want my character that's about to die healed she only heals that character once AND THEN it bounces to heal a character that's already FULLY HEALED Besides that, I do love Bailu 😊
@@desiredsweetswtf u on do u must have a problem with luocha lynx gallagher as bounce heal is better than single target she can heal one target like them and has a chance to heal others that is better
Bounce heal is so infuriating I can't believe it wasn't mentioned in the video. I've lost count of many times I've seen the stupid thing heal the target then bounce off to someone who is on full health. If she didn't have the revive as an insurance policy even Natasha would have outclassed her in usefulness on day one.
I feel like rather than being the path of healing, abundance should've been the broader path of restoration, like on top of hp, they could also restore energy and sp, that'd let them differenciate themselves more from preservation characters but unfortunately hoyo already shot themselves in the foot by giving these to harmony units
I remember someone making vid how this seems like a bad team and call gallag and huohuo badly designed when honestly sustains need to more than just heal, i mean qiqi is bad for a reason.
We need one of a few things to bring up Bailus value: 1) A LC that gives a cleanse. Ideally the Herta Shop 5* whenever they release that. 2) A relic set that gives a cleanse. 3) More harmony characters that can cleanse like Bronya, but maybe more frequently. 4) Literally Furina 😂 Bailu heals a lot, especially with Invigoration, so having a character who boosts team damage based on HP changing would be great for all the Abundance characters. I'm hoping by 3.0 we get at least 1 or 2 of these things because my Bailu is E3 and I would like to use her, but my Gallagher and E1 Huo Huo are just so much more reliable.
I think it's literally just how end game is entirely a dps check. If they added a mode where having a good sustain mattered, and clear speed didn't, she would see use again.
I understand that she is just a so-so healer, but I love running her as supersonic Bailu, basically Multiplication + as much SPD substats as possible. The good thing about her Ult Heal is that it lingers around for some hits, so with Supersonic build, you only heal using her Ult + she battery your team SP (super SP positive) with very high speed.
While Gallagher might still get a lot of use on break teams, we will have to see how he holds out against Lingsha who is the premium version. I will still be using him and skipping Lingsha but many waifu simps will probably gladly replace him.
@@Candytime9 lingsha is even more niche (summon, slight weakness efficiency break) than gallagher and being not sp positive, but has an AOE wide cleanse though might become more worth if the upcoming enemies straight ignore your shield that healing will be more valued or hard cc from enemies where u need to cleanse
@@NoWastedPotential I know her kit.I am just making an observation that Gallagher might get less playtime. As a 5 star fire healer with break effect team synergy of course there will be comparisons as well as those who don't care about niches but want to play waifu's. Not all people will pull for her, but anyone who does will replace Gallagher so he will be played less regardless, we will just have to see how much based on her sales. Which is why I said "we will have to see".
Same. Bailu was the 5* I got off the welcome banner, and she hard carried me through a lot of the game. And while I don’t use her as much as I used to since I have HuoHuo now, she’s still my comfort pick for sustain.
Reasons I still use her: -She's 5* -Heals alot ofc -She can revive!!!!🌟 -I didn't pull for other abundance/preservation chars bc I simply want to pull only my fav chars. -She's E2 (*Bonus? - I simply don't play hard content hehe) I use her since start of the game (was super lucky), she helps me alot.
This poor dragon lady was my first 5 star from launch and been in 90%+ of my fights according to the event survey they did, which I do not doubt, she carried me on her little back since day one and I do not plan on replacing her even if I am the only one playing her.
I know its not technically Bailus kit, but since we are cheating with light cones, Bailus signature makes her better by giving her more utility! it records outgoing healing and does 36% of that value for extra damage in your next attack, and since she has so much healing it does make a difference for fast domain clears and stuff. at s5 it's even 60% of outgoing healing as extra damage iirc
I don't think they'll do it, but god I would love a drip of new banners of just character exclusive light cones of early game characters to put them in line and push a strong space. Maybe even give them a new look or special fx. If there were a bailu, giving her action forward every basic to generate SP and allies a pinch action forward based on overheal could be interesting, for example. Would fit her high energy and evasiveness. I'd be willing to pay / invest to make these fave characters play similarly but remixed and buffed a pinch.
For the alternate universe where Hoyoverse does balance -Add invigoration blocks status effects -Replace A2 to: increases max HP by 15% for the team -A6: Characters with Invigoration receive 15% less DMG. (up from 10%) -A4 mod: apply dmg buff to every kind of healing -E6 replace: 1% (or 2%) of Excessive healing goes to energy regen
Here’s what they can do Since the devs are such big Fate fans, they can take a page from FGO’s book and buff old units Like tie it to a companion mission of sorts and finishing it allows them to be leveled to 90 and adds something like 3 more traces and those traces bring older units to the modern era Imagine one of those traces lets you choose the bounce
They can't do that as Chinese law prevents you to significantly alter kits of old characters under notion of "false advertisement during the time said product (in this case the character) is first released". FGO can do it because well they're owned and developed by Japanese company. That's why the buffs for Chinese gacha games is never intrinsic and always come from external sources such as relics or in Arknights personal modules
Bailu was the absolute first 5* character I got in the game, and ironically also the main 5* I wanted from the standard banner. However, the moment I got Huohuo (the main reason I play Hsr) was also the moment I left her. Now I just sometimes use it as a secondary healer for another team because I don't have that many sustain options to begin with. One huge problem I see with Bailu is her bouncing healing, making it... well... bounce to other characters. This means that she either heals character A, B and C, or she heals character A three times (when it only needed 1 for max hp). This gets really frustrating after a while.
I kinda agree wholeheartedly. Having not much other units early to mid game (that I like and levelled up), she was my go-to sustain in **every** fight. In fact, her being on the team allowed me to almost always leave the fight at least with 80%-95% HP. But when Huohuo came out, followed by Gallagher, Aventurine, and Fu Xuan's rerun, I basically just stopped using Bailu altogether in favour for the latter four's utility.
I know ZZZ is still in its early days, and it's not quite the same style of game, but it is Hoyo and still has a lot of similar checks/balances systems! As things go on, I'd love to see some videos for that one!
This has always been my problem with Healers even back when Loucha was released. I keep telling people he would be power creeped no by healing but for utility, sure a healer job is to heal, but in this game sadly that's not enough to invest in a unit they need to be able to provide more than the baseline considering the resources (pulls) needed to obtain them.
At least I got his E1 in the same ten pull I got him🥰 Tbh, the only healers you really need that are 4 stars are Gallagher fir break and Lynx for healing on main teams.
the one thing luocha has over bailu even now is that hes a much better sp positive healer. without ever using sp he has a free cleanse and easy full party healing. i think hes been almost completely powercrept by lingsha though, her heal is literally luochas skill but aoe and she has offensive utility with increased break dmg + a fua AND most importantly shes only slightly less sp positive than luocha. already gallagher kind of powercreeped luocha as the sp positive healer but lingsha takes it to another level
While I agree with all your points, there is ONE niche she has and it's why I'm disappointed I haven't lost a 50/50 to her yet. In Gold and Gears Conundrum 12, she pairs really well with Fu Xuan to keep the team alive since her heals and max HP increase and damage mitigation and revive all support Fu Xuan from getting one-shot, while Fu Xuan handles cc effects. Extremely niche but I do think she is better than Luocha and Huo Huo at this role
I feel a easy buff for her is a free 4 star light cone that makes it that it gives a guaranteed cleanse to any form of healing or a new relic that makes it after a character is healed and extra healing will change to a cleans or beter yet just have a relic that takes exstra healing and makes them into shields these will allow bailu to gain a advantage because of her aoi healing so she would be able to compete with some suistants atleast
This is correct. (I remember getting Silverwolf accidentally when sniping Dan Heng eidolons from her banner (heh, early game priorities) and being worried I wouldn’t have enough for Luocha (thankfully I did). Then skipped the hot stellaron hunters to get Imbibitor. )
Mostly, Abundance and Preservation are usually the categories that have never fallen out of meta. I play lots of Gacha games but this is the first time DPS like Herta and Himeko being a Meta characters.
When I first started HSR, I really wanted Bailu, since she's so cute, but also for her multi-heal. Most I had at the time was Natasha and Lynx, who could only heal multiple allies with their Ults. But when Huohuo came out, I went with her instead. It also helps her heals are more consistent and I don't have to worry about potentially healing someone that doesn't need heals. Heck, I believe she herself also gets a regen after healing allies.
12:33 that's actually a really neat idea. Imagine a hunt or erudition character that converts, like, every 1% of their max HP covered by shield into 1% damage bonus, stacking up to 100% (or their full health bar)
I was very grateful for my Bailu when release-day Aventurine was beating my ass. I would not have beat him if I want spamming her ult through the whole second phase. Have I used her since? No. But she was super useful that one time outside of the early game.
Bailu is still in my auto team for farming because she guarantees that nothing stupid can happen when I'm not paying attention. But the moment I got other healers she got phased out of everything else. Never got Adventurine.
"The one thing she does that no other healer does is Reduce DMG" I was soo expecting the revive. It can be really nice when a character gets One-shot by all the Single target hitters (The gorilla, the Robot ladies. The Past) or if a character just dies. The Worse part in my opinion is The healing reduced in her kit. Why does a healer need their next heal reduced, its silly.
I have this dragon girl E3 and I want to say that she is gorgeous. I put a cone on her for 16 energy to an ally per turn and gathered her into speed and energy recovery. I get: an increase in HP, a huge influx of energy into the team, protection from oneshots, a huge number of skill points, resurrection in case of unsuccessful aggro + bonuses from support relics. She is amazing and has a huge number of bonuses in the squad, she is very pleasant and comfortable to play with, you feel really SAFE with her
Poor guy will always take all the CC to himself, at least he has his own personal revive for when it hits the fan big time 😂 Thankfully Acheron is there to delete the enemy before they can bully him that much.
bailu has been my main healer since launch day, i got her from the starter banner. she hasn't left my team since, she's E1 (from standard) and i don't think i will be replacing her anytime soon since i like her more than any of the other healers. also, she's just very comfortable for me to play with her revival mechanic
bailu was my first 5 star. she will always have a place in my heart because she carried me through the story and early game. RIP Bailu You were a great starter
During the video you started to make me feel bad for skipping out on Huohuo since I wanted to wait for Aventurine coming back, but the inevitable "Shield > Healing" came and put my mind at ease again xD But yeah, I use Bailu because the only other Healer I have is Natasha and because I like the whole Baiheng story, that's about it. And I will absolutely bench her once I get the chance.
I’m using her with Yunli team (due to not having Huohuo) and she’s still very serviceable. Having no cleanse isn’t the dealbreaker as long as your DPS has innate way to deal with debuffs. Meanwhile, she does provide tons of defensive buffs to help your team survive with just her ult, making her very SP positive as well. Is she the best healer? No. But is she viable with very low investment required? Yes. My point is, if you do have Bailu from losing 50/50, give her a try. She’s not that bad, and if she’s still doing good enough, you can stick with her instead of trying to spend on more healers. That’s a lot of jewels saved.
@@elainasjournal5734 that's just one version of debuff there's many more available 😂 I won't disagree bailu is great for story mode but after that she falls off fast 🤤
@@xuk6042 tbh my point is more about the investment you need to spend on healers. Yes, there are healers better than Bailu and she doesn’t have cleanse, but the game environment isn’t to the point that every battles require you having a cleanse. So if you do have her from losing 50/50 (I’m not suggesting using 300/300 on standard banner on her), then give her a try, then you might just need to roll 1 more sustain to use for 2 teams. In fact, that’s what I’ve been doing, and I have been getting full stars on every MoC, PF and AS.
Bailu carried me through Belobog and the Xianzhou, and for that I'm grateful. Her Penacony experience was weird: kinda miserable up until Aventurine of stratagems, where running double abundance ended up being the thing that clutched that battle. She's been more hindrance than help in all the end game modes, and I can't wait for Aventurine to get a banner re-run.
I remember when i didn't play hsr yet, I remember watching an ad about Bailu, coincidentally, I got bailu from the departure warp, and i have been using her since. (Stopped using her after i got huohuo and fu xuan from their reruns, but i still like her)
I got her on the guarantee banner and she carried me pretty well early game. Though I have way better healers these days, she still holds a fond place in my heart.
I literally went through the entire storyline with her and use her all the time in roguelikes. Mainly because my other 2 healers are Natasha and Lynx. More than half of the battles have no debuffs to remove. But there is a lot of damage to several team members, which Bailu handles well. And where there are debuffs, they often fall on the healer, knocking him out, so the lack of debuff removal did not matter. In any case, you will need one of the following - AoE heal, single-target heal, debuff removal. No healer does all 3. Sometimes you have to select them according to the situation.
She's just really weak. The lack of a cleanse doesn't really matter. She's not even good as a pure sustain. Aventurine and Luocha both are way better at that, on top of having all sorts of utilities and dmg contributions.
Personally, I love Bailu and has been using her since the start. Not so much nowadays, but this recent Apo Shadow, Bailu is the one who carried my non-Firefly team to clear and 3* the last difficulty.
I feel like Bailu still has uses because there are bosses that do not give debuff like Death, Gepard, and SAM. SAM seems like it has debuffs because of the fire, however any abundance character that has cleanse can’t dispel SAM’s fire which means Bailu could be a viable sustain against him. And then Death has debuff it cannot be dispelled since Allie’s are imprisoned by enemy summons pretty much like Svarog’s hands. I didn’t mention Svarog because the automatons have bleed debuff which could be lethal especially at high levels
I really really wish you put a section in of how you would fix her issues, since we all know her weakneses so it would be cool to see how you would buff her, be it with a lightcone or some actual buffs
I've used exclusively gepard and bailu as sustains since I started playing the game (besides Natasha at the beginning) and have been able to beat all endgame content besides the latest pure fiction, and that wasn't due to dying. Only recently built Gallagher for firefly and he's been nice too.
Played the game a short time when first launched, literally was still on herta's station. Bailu was my first 5*, started playing again when Robin came out because i saw a video of firefly being playable and was like "ayo Kamen Rider?" Been playing since, was using bailu till like a month or so later before i looked up tips and saw not all healers had a cleanse. Dropped her since
I got her recently, but it's way too late since I already building up Gallagher and Fu Xuan. But hey, at least I can take a screenshot of her standing next to General Huaiyan.
I could potentially see them buffing bailu through a dewdrop mechanic similar to the harmony path in simulated universe (which turns overhealing into hard DPS) but then again thered probably still be better units than her for it
my account is on the newer side, so i dont got access to many of the various units, so ive had a good look at some of the fights where having even bailu helps with a fight more then anything. the phantylia fight in particular on phase 3 actually pumps out enough damage that bailus healing has a trigger on hit added with her dmg reduction actually makes it a much more doable fight. when i got to her, my only defensive options was only march 7th and natasha, if i didnt ult on natasha inbetween her 3 attacks with someone without shields, they outright would be 100 to 0.
Bailu destroys all story mode content but once you hit endgame heavy çc content sadly you will start to notice she is just a childe in the dream of abundance 😢
@@xuk6042 and ya that is a issue in it self. its that when you literally have 0 good options, a half a option over natasha is such a degree better. my second limited 5 star on my acc was adventurine, that shit change my ability of doing content so much.
i play Bailu almost everytime. i do have Huohuo, Gal and Lynx. But I will use Bailu no matter what, this adorable dragon needs to be protected at all costs. Currently E4, she did wonders for me and she's always will be my main healer.
i believe hoyo needs a sustain based end game mode to be able to sell their sustains properly, and have the damage portion converted into (heal? shield? overshield?), with increased sustain from damage based on the current cycle as of now they are actually glorified harmony supports, and after you pass that initial cap of healing for most normal teams you dont want any more healing (this is not me looking for more primos no cap)
Bailu was the first 5-star I got in the game. I'm F2P so she was my only healer for a long time. I only got Huohuo 2 weeks ago but I'm still using Bailu 'cause I just can't quit that revive she has. I also keep getting healer relic set pieces with crit damage and crit rate as main and sub stats instead of HP. I know I'm not properly utilizing my roster but it's just so hard to stop using Bailu and Trailblazer; it's like trying to learn combos when you've been button mashing for months, it's not that easy to do.
my FIRST healer. other than Natasha. i still use her often only cause i like her revive especially when i dont have good builds and her revive actually helps.
This patch I decided that I had relied enough on bailu (s1) and gepard (E2S1) as my only 5 star sustains, I pulled for huohuo, planning on pulling for Lingsha next, so this is kinda timely for me
Not gonna lie, we’ve know about Bailu’s lack of cleanse since 1.0; aside from that, her only other concern is that she doesn’t fit into any team comp (Gal/Ling - Break, HH - DoT/Ult spam, Aven - FUA). Bailu, however, is the only healer who could built as a successful tank with his EFF RES and Def. Every other healer wants to be built with speed. Bailu’s eidolons do fairly increase her potency and supportive capabilities, so I don’t see her losing viability until she is directly challenged. Let’s be fair: Luocha died almost immediately upon FX’s release and FX (and Gepard) has now died since HH and Aventurine’s. The only sustains at the moment are Aven, Gal, and HH (unless you have multiple eidolons) and there is no mode that yet requires three teams. When that occurs, I would still take Bailu over other sustains depending on the team I’m using.
I respect Bailu, because she was the reason how I survived Swarm Disaster. Back in the days, when Swarm disaster was released Bailu alongside with Clara helped me to beat that shitty bug. There where plenty situations when everyone died except Bailu and Clara. But yeah, nowadays I much prefer Gallagher due to super break or Loucha which is just better.
She was my first ever 5 star and mine has been completely min/maxed. As a result she still heals way more than I ever need at one time but the lack of a cleanse means she is ALWAYS stunned when an important unit dies rendering her revive useless.
Bailu was my first healer as well as my first 5 star in this game. And because of circumstances, I got 2 more copies of her (so, E2 Bailu on my account), and I didn't have other characters that could do her job (I didn't like playing Natasha, I didn't have Lynx back then and March is not a healer. No Gepard, of course). She carried me during my time with this game. If it wasn't for Bailu, I would probably still be stuck on some boss. I only "recently" got more supports: Aventurine and Robin. Ok Robin is not a healer/tank support but I generally needed more support characters on my account and I really wanted a tank to try something new. Needless to say, love the guy and he replaced Bailu easily on my Clara team. Still, I don't think my love for Bailu will go away. She still carried me for a good chunk of the game and she's very decently built for someone who doens't know what she's doing half of the time (me). I stopped playing the game beause the powercreep feels extremely overwhelming but I'll never forget how Bailu literally kept me alive for most of my time playing HSR. I always gravitate towards healers, especially those with revive skills.
Just got another copy of her 😭😭😭😭 (E4 now, and it looks cool on paper cause she can provide damage amp, but it's very RNG still... it could've been a max of 6 stacks honestly cause you don't need to use her skill as often.) by next year she's probably E6! I really REALLY want to play with her, but aside from her really good party wide survivability, she doesn't provide anything else. I HOPE we get we get some new LC and Relics for her soon :C, i mean, clara did get her new BiS LC thanks to Yunli, in the future we get one for bailu. My hypothetical BiS LC: Increases own Max HP by 8%. All allies except self get an increased in defense based on own health by 8%. When this character launches an Ultimate they dispel 1 latest debuffs to all allies, this could only occur for 1 time every 2 turns. For each debuff dispelled during own Ultimate, charges party's ultimate gauge by 2%. My hypothetical BiS relic set: Increases the party's effect RES by 8%. Increases the wearer's Max HP by 8%. When the wearer uses their Ultimate, dispels 1 latest debuff to all allies, this could only occur for 1 time every 3 turns. These two could solve Bailu's problems, by making the party a little more resistance to debuffs, and dispelling 2 debuffs every 3 turns while also providing energy she could be an alternative to huohuo!
As someone who used Bailu until just a couple weeks ago when I got Huohuo, I'm one of the few lovers of our cute dragon lady and I will stand by her even while I'm frozen solid and taking 4 hits of damage from Wind Shear
I love this video, finally a deep explanation about Bailu’s ability. I’ve met many Bailu copers saying that she’s still able to keep up with other healers and carried their team through MoC,PF and AS. But we all know it’s bs
as a f2p, bailu really carried my account since release, i didn't like any of the limited sustains so i'm glad i've survived and full cleared like all content just using her and other easily accessible sustains. lynx and gallagher have great utilities but feel ultimately worse to use when you don't need their buffs since bailu healing is just crazy good
Ty for this because I started playing in 1.0 when she was super super good and I took a huge break and came back in 2.0 for penacony and I was so confused how she became so bad when she used to be insane in 1.0 and I’m not caught up with the meta so I never understood it since she heals a lot 😭
i meaaan TECHNICALLY if you have a team filled to the BRIM with effect res in the future you could just full ER relic bailu and an ER cone and nobody died + you get E4 bailu energy etc, easy game
its interesting that they haven't come up with a new healer that can revive like bailu (yet) in their kit also i wonder why they didn't include cleanse in bailu's kit since heal,revive and cleanse is what the typical healers can do in most RPG's especially when bailu is a standard banner character
What I'm noticing is that low- or no- _eidolon_ Bailu is the one that will ultimately lose out to other healers. The more 4⭐'s we get that will be easier to E6 the more market share they will get. The cleanse is a major factor; my E2 Gallagher is a much easier choice especially now with Super Break.
Well there are easy ways to indirectly buff pure healer/shielder usage. Just design a new character that scales party DPS based on healing received. Either buff or just charging damage like dewdrop in DU. Similarly for characters with heavy shields can have a new engine piece designed that scales damage off shields like Quake in DU. They already have the technology they just need to implement it in the base game.
if there were some game mode where the goal was to just SURVIVE, bailu would be meta again. She overheals my team in a way none of my other healers do plus the revive is so nice. I think that's not too crazy of an idea and maybe we will see it some day.
I will forever be grateful for getting Bailu as my first 5-star, she literally kept my team alive for a long time, and carried me all the way until endgame... And then bowing out just as I picked up Fu Xuan.
I still love her, she's so adorable! ...but she's unlikely to ever see the battlefield again...
A child shouldn’t be on the battlefield anyways she done enough
Same! She was great until I got Luocha!
then send her on expeditions at least
same!!! but i got Huohuo instead ❤
@@anduong8796 Do not disrespect the High Elder, she is the only reason Su Shang is alive after that Yunli trailer!
When I saw Bailu's trailer as an RUclips Ad, I actually thought it was a very early Genshin Fontaine Ad.
same me too
Qiqi 2
Vowel (primarily AEOIU) = an
Consonant = a
Some exceptions apply to how they sound, examples:-
1. University - “a university” _(The “u” sounds like “you,” a consonant sound)_
2. European - “a European” _(The “eu” sounds like “you,” similar to “university.”)_
3. One - “a one-time event” _(The “o” sounds like “w,” a consonant sound)_
4. Hour - “an hour”
_(The “h” sounds like “ou” a vowel sound)_
5. Unicorn - “A unicorn”
_(The “u” in “unicorn” sounds like “you,” a consonant sound)_
6. “Unit” - “A unit”
_(Similar to “unicorn,” the “u” sounds like “you”, a consonant)_
7. User - “A user”
_(The “u” again sounds like “you,” not a traditional vowel sound. So, a consonant)_
@@mediumsurmoon6283 Wtf
@@mediumsurmoon6283bro is teaching someone but his teaching is overkill
um ackshually 🤓☝️ baliu does have a cleanse in her kit. When you die she revives you and thus your no longer debuffed
Yes ... At the cost of dying and wasting her one ONE RES
@@sakiamira its still a cleanse just trying to spread facts out here
facts brother, speak ur truth
Yeah cleanse your buff too then lmao
Sure
no cleanse, saved us all 13 minutes.. (JK THO IM WATCHING NOW KING)
Saved? Im watching for fun at this point
This, benched Fu because of this and haven't even bothered leveling bailu even though she's got an awesome personality 😊
watch bailu's revive get stolen by some limited 5 star character...
im actually surprised they havent done this yet
For real- why hasn't any new unit pulled up to steal her swag yet? Not that I'm complaining, stan Bailu
It is already stolen by HuoHuo with eidolons already
@@unknownmothergoose7909 thats whale territory which we dont count because a very very small percentage has it
@@fancymustache3793 facts
You know that the cleanse part is even funnier with March also having a cleanse when giving a shield and Adventurine and Fuxuan blocking the debuff
And Natasha and Lynx having a cleanse while being free lol
My first 5 star in genshin was qiqi, my first 5 star in star rail was bailu ,both time i looked at tier list and say damn, she's pretty good, then use her and they were pretty good then eventually fall of a cliff, its weird that it happens twice
yeah, Bailu was my first 5 star and used her up until Penacony where she was falling off hard, but i only had Natasha and Lynx, i hated Lynx so i never built her, then got Gallagher and swapped out Bailu out for Gallagher and never looked back, kinda sad how bad Bailu is that i also was thinking of pulling for HuoHuo for how much better she is than Bailu, HuoHuo has no RNG heals, it has heals when doing an attack rather than being hit which is debatable on what is better, HuoHuo also has cleanses and attack up buffs when doing her heal and ect
At least Bailu works out of the gate unlike Yanqing, who doesn’t even work if you don’t have a good perservation unit to keep him from losing buffs, and even in the cutscenes keeps taking L’s
And both are loli chatacters who then get replaced by another loli healer that becomes more Meta than they do.
Diona with Qiq as healer + shielder + cryo.
And Lynx with Cleanse, HP boost and Aggro.
thats just power creep it will happen with every character especially the standard banner ones
That what happens when character can provide only defensive utility, even Luocha is falling off as a sustain pick when characters like Galagher can provide just little less healing for a 200k dmg nuking ult in a break team.
ironically enough that bailu trailer also has the most watched video on hsr channel
cuz it was an ad
@@dragonex4723yeah, if an ad is viewed in its entirety (or above 30 seconds if it's longer than 30 seconds)
It will be counted as a view on the advertised video.
Ad
Kafka, Firefly, Robin, Blade, and Sparkle have the best trailers
I hated how this ad was spammed.
On release, I said “Bailu will become the Qiqi of Star Rail” and people told me I was wrong cause there’d always be a need for sustain in a turn-based game. But I thought she’d be quickly outclassed by any limited 5* sustain cause she only did healing and there’s not that big of a need for sustain characters in the first place. You only really need 2 sustains, so as long as you pick 2 that give more than just healing, she’d be outmatched. It’s not like harmony characters, where having multiple can help
In the lost 50/50 department she feels exactly like Qiqi 😅
i'd say its quite the opposite with genshin, the game's so easy that you can very well just use qiqi for the rest of your life, you'll miss on a few primogems from the spiral abyss and that's that. in hsr there's way more hard content than in genshin, and you somewhat have to keep up with the meta whether you want to or not.
nowadays you dont even need sustain as you can 0 cycle certain content like MOC
@@neanahidden i have c5 qiqi and e4 bailu, can confirm. at least bailu has a decent e4 i guess. considering i have c5 jean too, i think healers love me a bit too much
Can't wait to see a future healer with a revive on their skill
isn't that huo huo and in some parts fu xuan? bailu basically got powercrept by the 2 biggest heal/sustains in the game
@@nekoluxuria7721 no, that's an eidolon... It's about the Skill
Yes and also probably with more chances to res cuz powercreeping Just works like that ☠️
If we get a Lightcone with some kind of cleanse on it she will become somewhat decent
That would break the abundance roster lol
@@archersterling6726Nah. Most characters already cleanse and have better 4 or 5 star lcs so it just be kinda useless except for e0 gallagher and bailu.
Thing is, so will any other abundance character.
@@OtherfaceMost abundance can already cleanse anyways
The thing is every abundance character has cleanse except for her and gallagher but that's only if you have him at e0-e1
because she stays true to the abundance class and only provides heals and nothing else
other healers nowadays have quirks like natasha's cleanse, lynx's max hp bonus and synergy with people who want to get hit like blade/yunli/clara, luocha has buff dispel, gallagher powering break teams, huohuo having a harmony ultimate
not to mention if you're doing simulated/divergent universe, some blessings straight up revive you, and outside of those gamemodes, if you have to use bailu's revive, the fight's not going in your favor in the first place.
Does invogaration count like i mean as in like the damage reduction part?
Healers have to cleanse debuffs though
I will say that regarding her revive some enemies can straight up burst your units down even from full hp, so Bailu having that revive can come in handy, especially for MoC.
@@usmanya5110yea that counts but she still doesn't do much outside of keeping you alive (same can be said of luocha tbh but at least he can cleanse)
It have been long time already . Isn't Natasha clean with her skill & ult ?
Luocha buff removal . Does the new Xianzhou enemy buff removable ? I rarely see it being useful because endgame content tend to have unremovable debuff & you might waste it because his ult is his auto healing source .
I wish her light cone gimmick (storing healing as DMG) was part of her kit / and her light cone would cleanse once she over heals a set amount of HP.
Haven’t watched yet, here’s my guess:
1. She has no cleanse or eff res boost in her kit
2. Bounce Heal Lmao
3. Her healing is eclipsed by limited 5-stars
4. Shielding is often just better than healing
5. More recent sustain character offer far more utility beyond simple healing (Luocha’s auto/field healing, Huohuo’s battery utility, Gal’s break buffs, and Aven’s follow ups and debuffs)
Edit: Yep, I was pretty much correct
For me, her bounce healing was the most annoying part of her. I don't mind her not cleansing and I appreciate her revive (saved me tons of times) but I SWEAR everytime I want my character that's about to die healed she only heals that character once AND THEN it bounces to heal a character that's already FULLY HEALED
Besides that, I do love Bailu 😊
@@desiredsweetswtf u on do u must have a problem with luocha lynx gallagher as bounce heal is better than single target she can heal one target like them and has a chance to heal others that is better
Bounce heal is better than single target healing
You made no point here
Bounce heal is so infuriating I can't believe it wasn't mentioned in the video. I've lost count of many times I've seen the stupid thing heal the target then bounce off to someone who is on full health. If she didn't have the revive as an insurance policy even Natasha would have outclassed her in usefulness on day one.
I feel like rather than being the path of healing, abundance should've been the broader path of restoration, like on top of hp, they could also restore energy and sp, that'd let them differenciate themselves more from preservation characters but unfortunately hoyo already shot themselves in the foot by giving these to harmony units
I remember someone making vid how this seems like a bad team and call gallag and huohuo badly designed when honestly sustains need to more than just heal, i mean qiqi is bad for a reason.
We need one of a few things to bring up Bailus value:
1) A LC that gives a cleanse. Ideally the Herta Shop 5* whenever they release that.
2) A relic set that gives a cleanse.
3) More harmony characters that can cleanse like Bronya, but maybe more frequently.
4) Literally Furina 😂 Bailu heals a lot, especially with Invigoration, so having a character who boosts team damage based on HP changing would be great for all the Abundance characters.
I'm hoping by 3.0 we get at least 1 or 2 of these things because my Bailu is E3 and I would like to use her, but my Gallagher and E1 Huo Huo are just so much more reliable.
I think it's literally just how end game is entirely a dps check. If they added a mode where having a good sustain mattered, and clear speed didn't, she would see use again.
I understand that she is just a so-so healer, but I love running her as supersonic Bailu, basically Multiplication + as much SPD substats as possible. The good thing about her Ult Heal is that it lingers around for some hits, so with Supersonic build, you only heal using her Ult + she battery your team SP (super SP positive) with very high speed.
Please talk about Gallagher at some point! He's an amazing 4 star with a lot of team uses, not to mention his role as the super break team sustainer
While Gallagher might still get a lot of use on break teams, we will have to see how he holds out against Lingsha who is the premium version. I will still be using him and skipping Lingsha but many waifu simps will probably gladly replace him.
@@Candytime9 lingsha is even more niche (summon, slight weakness efficiency break) than gallagher and being not sp positive, but has an AOE wide cleanse though might become more worth if the upcoming enemies straight ignore your shield that healing will be more valued or hard cc from enemies where u need to cleanse
@@NoWastedPotential I know her kit.I am just making an observation that Gallagher might get less playtime. As a 5 star fire healer with break effect team synergy of course there will be comparisons as well as those who don't care about niches but want to play waifu's. Not all people will pull for her, but anyone who does will replace Gallagher so he will be played less regardless, we will just have to see how much based on her sales. Which is why I said "we will have to see".
Lingsha just give e1 firefly team more damage tbh. She's overkill if you already have e6 or something.
I still love and play Bailu as my healer. I have no issues. Yes, others are better - but who cares when you can clear all content anyway
Same. Bailu was the 5* I got off the welcome banner, and she hard carried me through a lot of the game. And while I don’t use her as much as I used to since I have HuoHuo now, she’s still my comfort pick for sustain.
Just kill everything before you get cced
I use huohuo more but #2 is bailu any day
As long as you're having fun playing a char who like you're winning.
Definitely a winning strategy. Who cares if you win slightly faster if you have to use characters you don’t like to play with. 😊
Reasons I still use her:
-She's 5*
-Heals alot ofc
-She can revive!!!!🌟
-I didn't pull for other abundance/preservation chars bc I simply want to pull only my fav chars.
-She's E2
(*Bonus? - I simply don't play hard content hehe)
I use her since start of the game (was super lucky), she helps me alot.
This poor dragon lady was my first 5 star from launch and been in 90%+ of my fights according to the event survey they did, which I do not doubt, she carried me on her little back since day one and I do not plan on replacing her even if I am the only one playing her.
I know its not technically Bailus kit, but since we are cheating with light cones, Bailus signature makes her better by giving her more utility! it records outgoing healing and does 36% of that value for extra damage in your next attack, and since she has so much healing it does make a difference for fast domain clears and stuff. at s5 it's even 60% of outgoing healing as extra damage iirc
I don't think they'll do it, but god I would love a drip of new banners of just character exclusive light cones of early game characters to put them in line and push a strong space. Maybe even give them a new look or special fx.
If there were a bailu, giving her action forward every basic to generate SP and allies a pinch action forward based on overheal could be interesting, for example. Would fit her high energy and evasiveness.
I'd be willing to pay / invest to make these fave characters play similarly but remixed and buffed a pinch.
For the alternate universe where Hoyoverse does balance
-Add invigoration blocks status effects
-Replace A2 to: increases max HP by 15% for the team
-A6: Characters with Invigoration receive 15% less DMG. (up from 10%)
-A4 mod: apply dmg buff to every kind of healing
-E6 replace: 1% (or 2%) of Excessive healing goes to energy regen
Just remember, Bailu lvl.10 ult has lower scaling than HuoHuo skill at lvl.1
Damn
Here’s what they can do
Since the devs are such big Fate fans, they can take a page from FGO’s book and buff old units
Like tie it to a companion mission of sorts and finishing it allows them to be leveled to 90 and adds something like 3 more traces and those traces bring older units to the modern era
Imagine one of those traces lets you choose the bounce
they wouldnt do that tho lol, at most they add new relic sets designed to be usable for a character or just give characters new kits entirely
They can't do that as Chinese law prevents you to significantly alter kits of old characters under notion of "false advertisement during the time said product (in this case the character) is first released". FGO can do it because well they're owned and developed by Japanese company.
That's why the buffs for Chinese gacha games is never intrinsic and always come from external sources such as relics or in Arknights personal modules
It's true that I use other sustains, but as my first 5 star, she will always have a special seat in my heart.
Bailu was the absolute first 5* character I got in the game, and ironically also the main 5* I wanted from the standard banner.
However, the moment I got Huohuo (the main reason I play Hsr) was also the moment I left her. Now I just sometimes use it as a secondary healer for another team because I don't have that many sustain options to begin with.
One huge problem I see with Bailu is her bouncing healing, making it... well... bounce to other characters. This means that she either heals character A, B and C, or she heals character A three times (when it only needed 1 for max hp). This gets really frustrating after a while.
Same thing here but Bailu helped carry me through Penacony’s story (started playing in July)
And then I got Huohuo and haven’t looked back since
I kinda agree wholeheartedly. Having not much other units early to mid game (that I like and levelled up), she was my go-to sustain in **every** fight. In fact, her being on the team allowed me to almost always leave the fight at least with 80%-95% HP.
But when Huohuo came out, followed by Gallagher, Aventurine, and Fu Xuan's rerun, I basically just stopped using Bailu altogether in favour for the latter four's utility.
I know ZZZ is still in its early days, and it's not quite the same style of game, but it is Hoyo and still has a lot of similar checks/balances systems! As things go on, I'd love to see some videos for that one!
This hurts even more that the fact I recently built her well after losing my 50/50 to Feixiao and got this in my recommendations 😭
Same here I lost 50/50 to bailu.. Was pissed off.. And somehow I managed to get another 10 pull and finally bagged Feixiao😂
This has always been my problem with Healers even back when Loucha was released. I keep telling people he would be power creeped no by healing but for utility, sure a healer job is to heal, but in this game sadly that's not enough to invest in a unit they need to be able to provide more than the baseline considering the resources (pulls) needed to obtain them.
At least I got his E1 in the same ten pull I got him🥰 Tbh, the only healers you really need that are 4 stars are Gallagher fir break and Lynx for healing on main teams.
the one thing luocha has over bailu even now is that hes a much better sp positive healer. without ever using sp he has a free cleanse and easy full party healing. i think hes been almost completely powercrept by lingsha though, her heal is literally luochas skill but aoe and she has offensive utility with increased break dmg + a fua AND most importantly shes only slightly less sp positive than luocha. already gallagher kind of powercreeped luocha as the sp positive healer but lingsha takes it to another level
During the hsr yearly report, my most used unit for every month, was bailu; revive was my crutch
While I agree with all your points, there is ONE niche she has and it's why I'm disappointed I haven't lost a 50/50 to her yet. In Gold and Gears Conundrum 12, she pairs really well with Fu Xuan to keep the team alive since her heals and max HP increase and damage mitigation and revive all support Fu Xuan from getting one-shot, while Fu Xuan handles cc effects. Extremely niche but I do think she is better than Luocha and Huo Huo at this role
I feel a easy buff for her is a free 4 star light cone that makes it that it gives a guaranteed cleanse to any form of healing or a new relic that makes it after a character is healed and extra healing will change to a cleans or beter yet just have a relic that takes exstra healing and makes them into shields these will allow bailu to gain a advantage because of her aoi healing so she would be able to compete with some suistants atleast
The only thing i hate about her is her heal skill bouncing at random healing, that stupid mechanic literally caused my team to wipe a few times.
Bailu has never failed me and I will continue to use her
Nvm when lingsha drops bailu will be forgotten
4:32 I am quite sure Loucha was released 1.1 with silverwolf 1.0 Seele, Jing Yuan 1.1 Silverwolf, Loucha 1.2 Blade, Kafka 1.3 Daniel, Fu Xuan…
This is correct.
(I remember getting Silverwolf accidentally when sniping Dan Heng eidolons from her banner (heh, early game priorities) and being worried I wouldn’t have enough for Luocha (thankfully I did). Then skipped the hot stellaron hunters to get Imbibitor. )
Mostly, Abundance and Preservation are usually the categories that have never fallen out of meta. I play lots of Gacha games but this is the first time DPS like Herta and Himeko being a Meta characters.
Cause healing alone won’t carry you anymore need buff get and cleansing together
When I first started HSR, I really wanted Bailu, since she's so cute, but also for her multi-heal. Most I had at the time was Natasha and Lynx, who could only heal multiple allies with their Ults. But when Huohuo came out, I went with her instead. It also helps her heals are more consistent and I don't have to worry about potentially healing someone that doesn't need heals. Heck, I believe she herself also gets a regen after healing allies.
cant wait to see a future healer with a revive on their skill
12:33 that's actually a really neat idea. Imagine a hunt or erudition character that converts, like, every 1% of their max HP covered by shield into 1% damage bonus, stacking up to 100% (or their full health bar)
I was very grateful for my Bailu when release-day Aventurine was beating my ass. I would not have beat him if I want spamming her ult through the whole second phase. Have I used her since? No. But she was super useful that one time outside of the early game.
Bailu is still in my auto team for farming because she guarantees that nothing stupid can happen when I'm not paying attention. But the moment I got other healers she got phased out of everything else. Never got Adventurine.
Borrow Aventurine, literally never once lost any of the full auto weekly bosses or anything else.
Great video right after me getting her e2.
"The one thing she does that no other healer does is Reduce DMG" I was soo expecting the revive. It can be really nice when a character gets One-shot by all the Single target hitters (The gorilla, the Robot ladies. The Past) or if a character just dies.
The Worse part in my opinion is The healing reduced in her kit. Why does a healer need their next heal reduced, its silly.
I used to play Bailu, then I built my Gallagher
I can’t decide if Diamond will end up being a sustain to end all sustains or a DPS, though I guess he can be both.
I have this dragon girl E3 and I want to say that she is gorgeous. I put a cone on her for 16 energy to an ally per turn and gathered her into speed and energy recovery. I get: an increase in HP, a huge influx of energy into the team, protection from oneshots, a huge number of skill points, resurrection in case of unsuccessful aggro + bonuses from support relics. She is amazing and has a huge number of bonuses in the squad, she is very pleasant and comfortable to play with, you feel really SAFE with her
Yeah… “the first character problem.” That’s what I’m gonna call it.
You guys are forgetting that anyone with bailu’s invigoration on them gets 150% of her effect RES, that’s why she doesn’t have a cleanse.
Meanwhile Gepards "cleanse": Ayo I need E4😢.
Poor guy will always take all the CC to himself, at least he has his own personal revive for when it hits the fan big time 😂 Thankfully Acheron is there to delete the enemy before they can bully him that much.
@@bjornnilsson2941 Acheron + E1/E2 Gepard with Trend LC is fun lmao
@@reshmin0672 Yup mine is E1 and glued to Acheron's side 😁 It's so good that Jiaoqiu didn't even powercreep it.
The only time you would use bailu is when you don't have any other choice, mostly at the start of the game before you got access to better sustain
bailu has been my main healer since launch day, i got her from the starter banner. she hasn't left my team since, she's E1 (from standard) and i don't think i will be replacing her anytime soon since i like her more than any of the other healers. also, she's just very comfortable for me to play with her revival mechanic
bailu was my first 5 star. she will always have a place in my heart because she carried me through the story and early game. RIP Bailu You were a great starter
I genuinely just need her to have cleanse
She heals well and that's all that matters to me
During the video you started to make me feel bad for skipping out on Huohuo since I wanted to wait for Aventurine coming back, but the inevitable "Shield > Healing" came and put my mind at ease again xD
But yeah, I use Bailu because the only other Healer I have is Natasha and because I like the whole Baiheng story, that's about it. And I will absolutely bench her once I get the chance.
If she just had a cleanse she would still be slightly relevant
I’m using her with Yunli team (due to not having Huohuo) and she’s still very serviceable. Having no cleanse isn’t the dealbreaker as long as your DPS has innate way to deal with debuffs. Meanwhile, she does provide tons of defensive buffs to help your team survive with just her ult, making her very SP positive as well. Is she the best healer? No. But is she viable with very low investment required? Yes.
My point is, if you do have Bailu from losing 50/50, give her a try. She’s not that bad, and if she’s still doing good enough, you can stick with her instead of trying to spend on more healers. That’s a lot of jewels saved.
Take you bailu against those 3 bosses that spam alien dream (no acharon/FF/bootchill team cheese) and say it isent a deal breaker 😂
@@xuk6042 so you only fight against that for the whole game?
@@elainasjournal5734 that's just one version of debuff there's many more available 😂 I won't disagree bailu is great for story mode but after that she falls off fast 🤤
@@xuk6042 tbh my point is more about the investment you need to spend on healers. Yes, there are healers better than Bailu and she doesn’t have cleanse, but the game environment isn’t to the point that every battles require you having a cleanse. So if you do have her from losing 50/50 (I’m not suggesting using 300/300 on standard banner on her), then give her a try, then you might just need to roll 1 more sustain to use for 2 teams. In fact, that’s what I’ve been doing, and I have been getting full stars on every MoC, PF and AS.
@@xuk6042then you use a team that can handle that. Not every fight in the game has CC that you need to contend with.
Bailu carried me through Belobog and the Xianzhou, and for that I'm grateful. Her Penacony experience was weird: kinda miserable up until Aventurine of stratagems, where running double abundance ended up being the thing that clutched that battle. She's been more hindrance than help in all the end game modes, and I can't wait for Aventurine to get a banner re-run.
They can make an unit scale off healing received, or an unit that get a lot of energy every time it's healed.
I remember when i didn't play hsr yet, I remember watching an ad about Bailu, coincidentally, I got bailu from the departure warp, and i have been using her since.
(Stopped using her after i got huohuo and fu xuan from their reruns, but i still like her)
Your videos are always so mischievous and entertaining! Thank you for your sense of humor and your ability to make our days brighter and more fun!⏳🦉🌗
I got her on the guarantee banner and she carried me pretty well early game. Though I have way better healers these days, she still holds a fond place in my heart.
I literally went through the entire storyline with her and use her all the time in roguelikes. Mainly because my other 2 healers are Natasha and Lynx.
More than half of the battles have no debuffs to remove. But there is a lot of damage to several team members, which Bailu handles well.
And where there are debuffs, they often fall on the healer, knocking him out, so the lack of debuff removal did not matter.
In any case, you will need one of the following - AoE heal, single-target heal, debuff removal. No healer does all 3. Sometimes you have to select them according to the situation.
She's just really weak. The lack of a cleanse doesn't really matter. She's not even good as a pure sustain. Aventurine and Luocha both are way better at that, on top of having all sorts of utilities and dmg contributions.
First 5*. Always in my heart and has my full respect because she carried me through the entire game.
Personally, I love Bailu and has been using her since the start. Not so much nowadays, but this recent Apo Shadow, Bailu is the one who carried my non-Firefly team to clear and 3* the last difficulty.
I feel like Bailu still has uses because there are bosses that do not give debuff like Death, Gepard, and SAM. SAM seems like it has debuffs because of the fire, however any abundance character that has cleanse can’t dispel SAM’s fire which means Bailu could be a viable sustain against him. And then Death has debuff it cannot be dispelled since Allie’s are imprisoned by enemy summons pretty much like Svarog’s hands. I didn’t mention Svarog because the automatons have bleed debuff which could be lethal especially at high levels
I really really wish you put a section in of how you would fix her issues, since we all know her weakneses so it would be cool to see how you would buff her, be it with a lightcone or some actual buffs
Huohuo does have a prevent killing blow mechanic tied to one of her eidolons
I've used exclusively gepard and bailu as sustains since I started playing the game (besides Natasha at the beginning) and have been able to beat all endgame content besides the latest pure fiction, and that wasn't due to dying. Only recently built Gallagher for firefly and he's been nice too.
Played the game a short time when first launched, literally was still on herta's station. Bailu was my first 5*, started playing again when Robin came out because i saw a video of firefly being playable and was like "ayo Kamen Rider?" Been playing since, was using bailu till like a month or so later before i looked up tips and saw not all healers had a cleanse. Dropped her since
I got her recently, but it's way too late since I already building up Gallagher and Fu Xuan.
But hey, at least I can take a screenshot of her standing next to General Huaiyan.
I could potentially see them buffing bailu through a dewdrop mechanic similar to the harmony path in simulated universe (which turns overhealing into hard DPS) but then again thered probably still be better units than her for it
my account is on the newer side, so i dont got access to many of the various units, so ive had a good look at some of the fights where having even bailu helps with a fight more then anything. the phantylia fight in particular on phase 3 actually pumps out enough damage that bailus healing has a trigger on hit added with her dmg reduction actually makes it a much more doable fight. when i got to her, my only defensive options was only march 7th and natasha, if i didnt ult on natasha inbetween her 3 attacks with someone without shields, they outright would be 100 to 0.
Bailu destroys all story mode content but once you hit endgame heavy çc content sadly you will start to notice she is just a childe in the dream of abundance 😢
@@xuk6042 and ya that is a issue in it self. its that when you literally have 0 good options, a half a option over natasha is such a degree better. my second limited 5 star on my acc was adventurine, that shit change my ability of doing content so much.
Who said no one plays bailu?
As a fellow 0 cycler who never pulled for Limited sustains
I still use bailu and gepard when necessary
i play Bailu almost everytime. i do have Huohuo, Gal and Lynx. But I will use Bailu no matter what, this adorable dragon needs to be protected at all costs. Currently E4, she did wonders for me and she's always will be my main healer.
i believe hoyo needs a sustain based end game mode to be able to sell their sustains properly, and have the damage portion converted into (heal? shield? overshield?), with increased sustain from damage based on the current cycle
as of now they are actually glorified harmony supports, and after you pass that initial cap of healing for most normal teams you dont want any more healing
(this is not me looking for more primos no cap)
Bailu was the first 5-star I got in the game. I'm F2P so she was my only healer for a long time. I only got Huohuo 2 weeks ago but I'm still using Bailu 'cause I just can't quit that revive she has. I also keep getting healer relic set pieces with crit damage and crit rate as main and sub stats instead of HP. I know I'm not properly utilizing my roster but it's just so hard to stop using Bailu and Trailblazer; it's like trying to learn combos when you've been button mashing for months, it's not that easy to do.
Due to her lack of cleanse and her RNG healing, I think that's why people tend to favor Luocha, Huohuo, Gallagher, Lynx, etc. over her.
I can forgive the lack of cleanse, but not the rng of the skill.
That's despite me liking her the most out of any preservation / abundance character.
my FIRST healer. other than Natasha. i still use her often only cause i like her revive especially when i dont have good builds and her revive actually helps.
This patch I decided that I had relied enough on bailu (s1) and gepard (E2S1) as my only 5 star sustains, I pulled for huohuo, planning on pulling for Lingsha next, so this is kinda timely for me
Not gonna lie, we’ve know about Bailu’s lack of cleanse since 1.0; aside from that, her only other concern is that she doesn’t fit into any team comp (Gal/Ling - Break, HH - DoT/Ult spam, Aven - FUA). Bailu, however, is the only healer who could built as a successful tank with his EFF RES and Def. Every other healer wants to be built with speed.
Bailu’s eidolons do fairly increase her potency and supportive capabilities, so I don’t see her losing viability until she is directly challenged. Let’s be fair: Luocha died almost immediately upon FX’s release and FX (and Gepard) has now died since HH and Aventurine’s. The only sustains at the moment are Aven, Gal, and HH (unless you have multiple eidolons) and there is no mode that yet requires three teams. When that occurs, I would still take Bailu over other sustains depending on the team I’m using.
And she will never fit in a team D: also luocha died when HH released needed 2 sustains.
I actually use her often in Divergent Universe. She and Aventurine always go together
I respect Bailu, because she was the reason how I survived Swarm Disaster. Back in the days, when Swarm disaster was released Bailu alongside with Clara helped me to beat that shitty bug.
There where plenty situations when everyone died except Bailu and Clara.
But yeah, nowadays I much prefer Gallagher due to super break or Loucha which is just better.
She was my first ever 5 star and mine has been completely min/maxed. As a result she still heals way more than I ever need at one time but the lack of a cleanse means she is ALWAYS stunned when an important unit dies rendering her revive useless.
Bailu was my first healer as well as my first 5 star in this game. And because of circumstances, I got 2 more copies of her (so, E2 Bailu on my account), and I didn't have other characters that could do her job (I didn't like playing Natasha, I didn't have Lynx back then and March is not a healer. No Gepard, of course).
She carried me during my time with this game. If it wasn't for Bailu, I would probably still be stuck on some boss. I only "recently" got more supports: Aventurine and Robin. Ok Robin is not a healer/tank support but I generally needed more support characters on my account and I really wanted a tank to try something new. Needless to say, love the guy and he replaced Bailu easily on my Clara team.
Still, I don't think my love for Bailu will go away. She still carried me for a good chunk of the game and she's very decently built for someone who doens't know what she's doing half of the time (me). I stopped playing the game beause the powercreep feels extremely overwhelming but I'll never forget how Bailu literally kept me alive for most of my time playing HSR. I always gravitate towards healers, especially those with revive skills.
Just got another copy of her 😭😭😭😭 (E4 now, and it looks cool on paper cause she can provide damage amp, but it's very RNG still... it could've been a max of 6 stacks honestly cause you don't need to use her skill as often.) by next year she's probably E6!
I really REALLY want to play with her, but aside from her really good party wide survivability, she doesn't provide anything else.
I HOPE we get we get some new LC and Relics for her soon :C, i mean, clara did get her new BiS LC thanks to Yunli, in the future we get one for bailu.
My hypothetical BiS LC:
Increases own Max HP by 8%. All allies except self get an increased in defense based on own health by 8%.
When this character launches an Ultimate they dispel 1 latest debuffs to all allies, this could only occur for 1 time every 2 turns.
For each debuff dispelled during own Ultimate, charges party's ultimate gauge by 2%.
My hypothetical BiS relic set:
Increases the party's effect RES by 8%.
Increases the wearer's Max HP by 8%.
When the wearer uses their Ultimate, dispels 1 latest debuff to all allies, this could only occur for 1 time every 3 turns.
These two could solve Bailu's problems, by making the party a little more resistance to debuffs, and dispelling 2 debuffs every 3 turns while also providing energy she could be an alternative to huohuo!
As someone who used Bailu until just a couple weeks ago when I got Huohuo, I'm one of the few lovers of our cute dragon lady and I will stand by her even while I'm frozen solid and taking 4 hits of damage from Wind Shear
I love this video, finally a deep explanation about Bailu’s ability.
I’ve met many Bailu copers saying that she’s still able to keep up with other healers and carried their team through MoC,PF and AS.
But we all know it’s bs
I...still play her that reinvigoration goes crazy and clutch sometimes
as a f2p, bailu really carried my account since release, i didn't like any of the limited sustains so i'm glad i've survived and full cleared like all content just using her and other easily accessible sustains. lynx and gallagher have great utilities but feel ultimately worse to use when you don't need their buffs since bailu healing is just crazy good
Ty for this because I started playing in 1.0 when she was super super good and I took a huge break and came back in 2.0 for penacony and I was so confused how she became so bad when she used to be insane in 1.0 and I’m not caught up with the meta so I never understood it since she heals a lot 😭
i meaaan TECHNICALLY if you have a team filled to the BRIM with effect res in the future you could just full ER relic bailu and an ER cone and nobody died + you get E4 bailu energy etc, easy game
its interesting that they haven't come up with a new healer that can revive like bailu (yet) in their kit also i wonder why they didn't include cleanse in bailu's kit since heal,revive and cleanse is what the typical healers can do in most RPG's especially when bailu is a standard banner character
What I'm noticing is that low- or no- _eidolon_ Bailu is the one that will ultimately lose out to other healers. The more 4⭐'s we get that will be easier to E6 the more market share they will get. The cleanse is a major factor; my E2 Gallagher is a much easier choice especially now with Super Break.
Well there are easy ways to indirectly buff pure healer/shielder usage. Just design a new character that scales party DPS based on healing received. Either buff or just charging damage like dewdrop in DU. Similarly for characters with heavy shields can have a new engine piece designed that scales damage off shields like Quake in DU. They already have the technology they just need to implement it in the base game.
if there were some game mode where the goal was to just SURVIVE, bailu would be meta again. She overheals my team in a way none of my other healers do plus the revive is so nice.
I think that's not too crazy of an idea and maybe we will see it some day.