I'd give this 5 minutes before it gets outdated. Check back in a couple of weeks for whether or not I'm replacing anyone on this list with Feixiao or Lingsha! (Spoiler alert: Gallagher mains in shambles xd)
Gallagher mains been doom posting Lingsha since her V1 beta. “She’s better than Gallagher but not by much” as if this game hasn’t shown us with Yunli vs Clara, if the gap isn’t big enough they’ll make it bigger (I.E the new enemies being released).
The thing about sustains is that if your sustain can keep up with the endgame modes, it doesn't really matter if some other sustain is better. My Lynx E6 still works just fine on both MOC and AS, so I have no intent on replacing her anytime soon. Same thing with Gallagher. DPS and Support units are more important IMO. Still, I fear that the powercreep of HSR starts affecting sustains too, aka Hoyo making enemies in future versions deal so much damage that old sustains will simply not keep up.
Yes that's what we need, a sustain who can deal more damage than Gallagher who regularly hits 300k+ on ult. Biggest luxury pull of all time, if she's even better than him at all. Seeing what they did to Jiaoqiu I'm not expecting Lingsha to be much of an upgrade to E6 Gallagher. Like I don't even know what you could even ask her to do that Gallagher doesn't. Maybe increase break efficiency even further but she ain't doing that...
@@highwaytoheaven99 They can also make enemies even more tanky forcing your sustain to have a big support function too. (Example : huo huo,buffs and energy, and aventurine, damage and debuffs)
As a break fan, yeah, that hurts, especially the sequence trotters occurrence in SU, since one of them starts with their weakness already locked, no swords or bullets can penetrate that bastard
Boothill not even in Honorable Mentions? Honestly this feels like bias against him at this point, especially when he has more freedom to choose teammates compared to Firefly requiring two units. Boothill's probably the only team where Luka can perform decent, Bronya effectively doubles his damage, Pela is still a top tier amplifier for his damage. Is being bad in one game mode really enough to ignore him being top tier in the other two? If performance in all three game modes is really that important then where's Jiaoqiu? While he's slightly worse in Pure Fiction than Himeko, he's still the main battery for Acheron finally being top tier in that mode while also being useful for DoT teams. Even outside of Acheron teams, he's a replacement for Topaz on Ratio teams, can be an amplifier for Yunli teams, and works for the aforementioned DoT team with near 100% uptime on his debuff+dot. I'd argue he's about as universal as Sparkle but slightly less effective, so while I could maybe agree that he's not top 10, I'd value his damage amp the same level as Fu Xuan's tanking and Himeko's Pure Fiction specialization. Are we're putting value in general use? I'd argue Jiaoqiu is a more worthwhile investment than getting another DPS character because amplifiers are just that much valuable in teambuilding. Are we instead putting value in highest potential? Well, he's the best amplifier for one of the best units in the game and a top tier amplifier for a few other top tier units... sort of how Trailblazer is Firefly's engine but you can slot Trailblazer into a Boothill team as a slightly weaker Bronya substitute.
@@skyrres66 I mean if cheapness vs. premium matters, KafkaSwan shouldn't be here on this list at all because it requires two 5* units. Move an honorable mention to top 10 and slot Jiao, Boot, or hell even Pela in the honorable mentions. Pela could work there because of how accessible and flexible she is in many teams. Hypercarry Boothill (sustainless) runs Pela with double Harmony while double Nihility Acheron runs Jiao + Pela. She's imo a more universal support than Tingyun especially if they keep making Acherons for other archetypes. Also if we're talking cheap teams, Ratio + Hunt March 7th are both free and Robin is the premium Harmony like Ruan Mei. Anyone you can slot into that trio, whether sustain, amplifier, or secondary dps would have an equal cost team to Firefly.
@@skyrres66 What are you talking about? You do realise that Boothill can utilise both Gallagher and HMC? In fact one of his best teams is with Gallagher and if the enemies have imaginary weakness? HMC. Compared to Firefly, he is more flexible in his teams and can work well with Pela. Because defense ignore is one of the few things that can increase break damage.
I think the reason is, he's hamstrung by being single-target, which effectively makes him the new Seele insofar as you basically need to kill those trash mobs in one attack to make him efficient.... which is easy on the Break team, but might be hard on a Crit team for a new player.
Boothill is the single target GOAT. The thing with him is, well, u need to know what you’re doing and 90% of people playing are not willing to go that far, so they he’s worse than FF. IMO he might be even better than Feixiao and much cheaper to run
@@l0st1nv0idthis community and sleeping on Boothill is such an iconic duo, even some of the sweatier players see him as better than FF but the general player still sleeps on Hunt as a path, because it requires you to use your brain a bit and we are so used to units just basically playing themselves.
@@Radiant450 players sleep on hunt units because the main forms of endgame, MOC, apoc shadow and pure fiction, have more than one unit at a time. hence the AOE units like acheron, jade, firefly are meta instead of the hunt ones like seele, boothill, ratio
@@lillyieur acting like e0 firefly is any playable in this pf tho (especially when fire meta runs out) not to mention seele does well with newer supports in pf
As a huge Huohuo fan, seeing her right at the top fills me with joy. I was expecting her to not appear, but with this i feel more proud of my E1 Huohuo.
@fukanoonwish999 2 reasons: 1) Being a healer isn't necessarily a good thing in this game. We haven't reached the "pure healing meta" of Genshin in Hsr. If a healer wants to be good, it must do something else. And even then, healers aren't still in a good view. 2) I've hear a lot of people not being too... how can I say it... in the need of Huohuo. Saying things like "skip", "not necessary", etc. Now, I'm new to the game. So you shouldn't take everything that I say for granted. I'm just happy that Huohuo is still meta
As a Childe main, you have no idea how much I felt this. I pulled Ruan just because I have both Firelfy and Kafka. Otherwise I wouldn't have pulled for her.
she's also the most overloaded harmony character ever. i don't get how she got nerfed before going live. -provides speed just for existing -increases damage -increases weakness efficiency -increases all type res pen -makes enemies take break damage a second time other harmony characters only increase damage or have some gimmick like sparkle providing skill points, bronya making an ally immediately take action. not to mention other harmonies having to build crit damage like bronya or sparkle. ruan mei doesn't have that and is free to dump all her stats into break effect
@@Bartobatos The one reason I won’t get Tartag is bc I hate national teams😭 But yeah, I’m glad I di have Sparkle and Robin, bc I don’t want to depend on RM ever :(
I am tired of this i try to play firefly i need ruan mei i want to play kafka her best team has ruan mei i go for boothil guess what his he must have ruan mei
dps sure but supports? i dont see how robin or ruan mei will ever be irrelevant. unless energy drain enemies get spammed left and right or enemies perma lock their toughness bars but that would fuck over literally every other unit in the game. maybe ruan mei will get outclassed by a dedicated break support in the future but idk nothings stopping you from using them together :P
Yeah 100%, the game only powercreeps more and more (as this is the main method to sell units in HSR) especially dps units, so no dps units have as much longevity as supports and even then dps don’t last that long before another top dog comes by.
Yup, Boothill doesn’t even want HMC in his premium team unless you’re doing a sustainless run. Boothill wants Ruan Mei and Bronya the most, but even then you can also sub in other 4* such as Luka or Pela. And now that we have Jiaoqiu, you can also use him in Boothill teams. He’s more flexible than most people would think! Honestly I’d put him in the runner up, he’s at least comparable to Yunli in all game modes except PF
Not at least honorable mentioning Boothill is kinda feel wrong ngl, as much as Boothill is hard to use and is more or less useless in PF, he's still probably the most ridiculous character when you look deeply into his kit. Imo, he will probably be way more future proof compare to FF whose is kinda like Jingliu when she's first released (a basically perfect kit with no flawed and a perfect team but as time goes on, you'll realize that having a perfect kit basically means there's no actual solutions to help you reach higher heights compare to the other more high risk high rewards character)
i understand not putting bh in the 10 list because he is purely single target and the list takes all modes into account , but he is still out of all dps that no matter how thick the enemies get he will keep scaling with them he can get crazy bleeds all while being able to run a tank build out of all dps characters he is the most ridicules one when you really look into his kit fully. so to not even get an hm placement is shocking but i understand it not everyone wants a master of a single archetype.
Thisss! Love that you mentioned building him as a tank. He’s one of the easiest dps to build, just stacking as much break effect as you can and then make sure he survives, he’ll one shot anything. Idk how that isn’t enough to make him an honorable mention
I think you severely underestimate Gallagher. He has an insane niche. He, beyond absolutely and objectively any other sustain, sees ridiculously good usage in high level play. Gallagher can and will generate enough skill points for three characters when zero cycling. For someone to directly replace him, you would need good energy req (turn 1 ult), action advance by 100%, and skill point positivity to an insane degree. It's funny, as any other people privy to the dark arts know, that Lingsha simply doesn't do those things.
Lingsha is more like a Luocha powercreep instead of Gallagher... And she's also more SP hungry than Gallagher which is one of her biggest downsides. While she might be a good upgrade to Break teams, E6 Gallagher is just as valuable as E0 Lingsha.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I think Jiaoqiu should be on this list. Most people discredit him as just an Acheron support but I argue that he isn't, it's just that he happens to be Acheron's BiS. He's a generalist debuffer who will age well once we got more DPS who rely on ULT damage or more units like Acheron and Ratio who deals damage based on applying debuffs. He's at the moment the best debuffer in game which has more room for future potential.
I mean, we already have Argenti and he does not want Jiaoqiu. Energy matters a lot for ultimate focused units and eventually we'll get a harmony unit that buffs ultimate dmg. Outside of the debuff+ultimate niche, he won't be relevant at all.
I see your point but his kit overlaps too much with Pela. Only works best with Acheron, and even then is replaceable. He kinda is DLC for a DLC character
I think the primary "issue" here is that while he is *very* good, he is upgrading a one of the best 4*s in the game. And he IS a very nice upgrade to her, but he isn't necessarily changing how we build teams outside of maybe E0 Acheron. To be clear, I also think that's perfectly fine. We don't need every new limited unit to shake up the game (and I think it's better if they don't). Taking an existing role and being even better at it is great. But I get why he isn't on this list in the same way RM or Robin are. Their impact on account when you have them vs. don't is just significantly larger than JQ's is, UNLESS you have Acheron (especially E0 Acheron). And like you said, he's probably going to age very well. As we get more units who value Ult damage like Acheron does, his value is just gonna go up. But I think it's fair for him to not be on this list *yet.* To be clear, I did pull for JQ, and I don't have Acheron. I DO think he's valuable/good. Got him in 70 pulls. That said, I do kinda regret it, given the current state of my account, because I should have stopped at 40 pulls. I think he'd have definitely been worth that *for me.* But I'm also not beating myself up about it, because he IS good and I WILL get good mileage out of him. Just really should have waited for a rerun.
ngl i think bronya deserves a honourable mention as well, simply because of how much she provides. Literally sparkle but sp hungry and works for fast teams and actually buffs more than sparkle in terms of dmg alone. literally her only problem is sp, but if we look past that, she is an absolute beast.
Nah she is ass, her buffs are low and hard to get ult up, takes 3 turns and also super sp hungry I still use her with Blade cuz she works best with him
Bronya will be by far the best support in the game for any unit that can properly benefit from her. Everyone talks about how much better Ruan Mei and Robin are, but Jingliu still prefers Bronya over everyone else.
@@sct77 bruh Bronya is good for just Blade and Jingliu Stop coping, there are many better dps than Jingliu, Acheron, Firefly, Boothill None of them need Bronya Bronya might not even be top 20 cuz support like Pela and Asta are more universal and skill point efficient
honestly, its weird (and stupid) not seeing boothill in the list. yes he got "powercrept" by firefly, HOWEVER boothill is a physical break dps. physical break doesnt scale from atk, but from the max hp of the enemy. of course there is a limit, but he will almost always oneshot any enemy. with his self infliction of physical weakness, it goes without saying that feixaio and boothill are tied for best hunt dps
Have to agree with the people saying shoving bs/kafka into the list over Topaz is questionable. Topaz works so well with Dr.Ratio who is a free character a lot of accounts have, having her to pair with him only increases account value. On top of that her exploration is also a huge benefit to a lot of casual players, I know people who want to pull her just for the chest benefit, and the game made it worthwhile to have her on an account with ratio since they work well together. The only game mode single target FuA suffers in is PF and thats not always true (ive been successful with my team in pf, albeit i have e1 robin)
I will not get tired of saying this. It is one thing to have the MC be actually good. It's another thing to not only have them be not only the pioneer of a new Meta Playstyle. But also a forefront. I only played Magia Record and FGO as my Turn Base Mobile Game and even then. Mash and Iroha didn't even get this good
@@lillyieehhhhh calling fire mc excellent is kind of a stretch. Not terrible very serviceable but aside from march I’d rather have any other preservation
@@avej99 I don't think Fire Mc is great, but he does do a great job at being a taunter and absorbing massive amounts of damage. It's just that a lot of enemies have hard hitting aoe and their shield is more of a novelty than an actual help
@@1350_ Name another 4 star character tank that does a better job than him.. wait you cant XD He is decently good at his job, if his shields were bigger it would be just broken lol. And btw i use it, probably you dont, and i need to say, played well does the trick very fine even better than gepard sometimes (unless the battle is pure aoe then you will suffer) I use him in the Acheron Team with Day One of My New Life/Trend LC and she tanks like a champ + I keep nasty debuffs out of my team with the taunt yea, for All 3 engame modes full stars. People just forget how people were all using him instead of gepard in how good he was + being free at the start, but now we have better options(healers for the most part) and HMC existing there is no reason to use the tank path but even for a free unit she is just really unique.
To be fair to Boothill, who you didn't mention, he's not reliant on HMC the way Firefly is. There are lots of top teams that don't use her but instead go for Bronya for more actions. He's also a very strong unit, tho I am loathe to admit it. His ceiling is super high but it requires a lot of both game knowledge and luck tbh. Firefly's kit is completely overloaded with QoL compared to him so that's why she is usually held in higher regard. And this is from someone who is team Firefly 100%
Its funny because some playstyles except crit has a boss that its like, "Welp, our you restart the run, or i doit for you" And i am happy for it, DOT is Cocolia and bronya and for breakers is Yanqing.
I'm suprised to see bronya or JQ not be honorable mentions. Bronya because her buffs are pretty big and possibly can be even bigger than sparkle though the SP- does kinda hurt her abit. And Jiaoqiu while he's mostly about acheron he'd still a very strong debuffer and possibly the best general debuffer.
It's kinda icky to see kafka blackswan in the top 10 when dot is i ln a very weird abd icky spot in the meta right now. They have almost no place in apocalyptic shadow, and is barely keeping up with break/fua teams in moc. And even in pf their ease of use and value heavily relies on pf cycle, as they can also underperform given the circumstances. Kafka and black swan is good, but I don't think them being the best of their niche is noteworthy to include in top 10. As for who would deserve it more, I think it would be either boothill or jiaoqiu. Boothill has low ceiling performance and can destroy moc and apoc no sweat even with a 3 star weapon(mind you, better than a four 5 star kafka dot team) while jiaoqiu enables acheron to surface as a unit that excels in every mode with how much debuff consistency he gives to her, not to mention, his other teams are by no means far behind, he's been proving his value as a good substitute in argenti/yunli/ratio teams. Heavy bias on a somewhst struggling archetype because they are the best out of the peapod is weird to me, not to mention you make a top unit a pair, on which both are limited 5 stars, and still underperforms compared to other meta teams rn.
Lingsha will definitely be the go to for sustaining Break teams moving forward, replacing Gallagher in that slot, but he’s far more versatile. He’s still a really effective sustain for Acheron, Quid Pro Quo charging is always nice for more expensive teams, and most importantly, he’s far more accessible than Lingsha. If we’re talking about ceilings and optimal units, Lingsha will beat him out, but Gallagher will always be available as you play the game, meaning you don’t necessarily NEED Lingsha
@@harrya9458 Honestly, because of her follow-up heal mechanic, I'd consider running Lingsha with FUA attackers like Feixiao and Ratio while Gallagher gets to stay with FF Super Break.
I actually agree with the list lol But Boothill definitely deserves a spot and Robin is better than Ruan Mei in every scenario except the break team, i know FF users always say Ruan Mei is the best support in the game but no, Robin is Seeing Yunli is nice tho, for some reason not a lot of people talk about her even tho she is insanely strong and good in every single endgame mode I am biased on her dmg as i have E1S1 but my Yunli is throwing out 800k enhanced counters, ults all the time due to her insane energy gain and since i pulled HuoHuo’s LC specifically for her, she heals every time she ults too on top of her very impressive skill self heal Yunli is a powerhouse
Vars is kinda catered towards casuals (or overly casual even) I guess, and to them easier to use and more reliable but not necessarily stronger units are better. I believe that Boothill is definitely one of the strongest units in the game, it’s just that the causal players dont make the most out of him.
ya, he's top 3 dps for sure. like he's good at moc and st like ff. ff might be better for pf, but why use her in pf when himeko is better there. id say remove kafka and bs, until there is a limited dot supp.
@@Radiant450I feel like that’s more reason to put Boothill on the list then because he’s one of the easiest dps to build. You don’t need to find specific crit pieces and you don’t even need a full set, just stack as much break damage as you can. You can even make him a tank and not worry about your dps getting one shotted.
I Mean like, what kind of path could they even added to HSR ? They already put in all the classic RPG classes. The Hunt: Rouge, Assassin Erudition: Mage Destruction: Bruiser, Fighter Nihility: Debuffer Harmony: Buffer Abundance: Healer Preservation: Tank.
No not really because the "debuffs" and "DoT" effects thst the elements do for breaking.....became very negligible since chars can just applie better debuffs that aren't related to the path at all Adding an extra element is pretty unnecessary tbh
all the elements just do the same thing with their weakness breaking so there is no point adding more bleed does damage burn does damage wind shear does stacking damage shock does damage freeze skips their turn entanglement delays action and does stacking damage imprisonment delays action and reduces speed they're just the same flavor of delaying enemies or dealing damage. we don't need more elements
@@kaikaikai4477so the criteria for being strong is if they can clear end game modes? But boothill one shots everything, I feel like he deserves to be considered really strong for that
to many people sleep on Yunli, although having her LC really helps her out in everything since it makes her aggro enemies and buffs her dps. Shes always on one of my teams as a sort of tank and dps. She really does feel universal, esp with how hard her ult hits and her follow up attacks when enemies hit her. Shes just a way better Clara in every way.
Boothill still benefits from HMC since super break scales with toughness reduction and Boothill’s enhanced basic has toughness reduction for days. You might still be better off running harmony character with turn advance just to get more turns in but it’s not like HMC doesn’t help at all
Gotta be honest, Topaz not even being an honorable mention is shocking. She's as much of a driver for FuA as Robin is (albeit not as strong outside it) and FuA is currently the most powerful team engine in the game. IMO, she's more deserving to be on the list than Kafka and Black Swan, who had to share a spot because their archetype has fallen so far out of relevance that you had to combine them into one spot just to force them onto the list. She's literally Kafka for a better archetype, Kafka has no business being on this list if Topaz isn't on it.
Kafka and Black Swan are the only 2 characters I actually wanted to get, most of the others were just something among - ''I'm at 50-50, what's the worst that can happen?'' Now these 2 are permanent with Ruan Mei and Luocha, all 4 with signatures, wish only my relics were any good but even so, they made the game easy.
Shocked to see Yunli granted I saw most people say they were skipping her. (As a Yunli fan who got E3 I am happy though) rest of the list was straight forward.
I said it before, but this channel is for casuals I suppose, and to the casual players boothill and Robin, who require more thought and game knowledge compared to FF and Robin, but imo NOT worse for sure. I would argue BH has a higher ceiling, and Robin is straight up better than RM in all teams now except break.
@Radiant450 as long as you put speed and be on boothill you can literally put any relic on him and not give him a lightcone and still get top tier meta damage with a simple break. He's so braindead to build. How is that not casual friendly? Lmfao.
I mean, even outside of contracts and leaks, even though I guess you have made this video long before yesterday, the 2.5 live already said Lingsha inflicts break dmg vulnerability with her ult. But even despite this, Gallagher is more debatably more accessible than her anyway, so he still has amazing value
To be fair, the debuff is not damage vulnerability, is the same kind of Gallagher debuff but a bit stronger, it's a multiplicative debuff, so It has harsher diminishing returns, making the actual increase about 4% average, maybe less if the MoC/AS is already giving you break damage buffs With this and other details with lightcones sinergy, I think that Gallagher E6 is better than lingsha E0 as long as your firefly is also E0, but the difference between them is very low, probably your clears speed is not gonna change at all
Himeko will continue to age gracefully because of how synergistic her kit is with other Erudition characters. My money is on Rappa becoming Himeko's new best friend... since Jade stole Herta.
Because she literally isnt though himeko only has her spotlight in pure fiction the best 5* standard will always be bronya .Being a both dmg up and action forward harmony char make her lowkey viable for every team
Ruan mei is old but broken for firefly, Kafka,black swan, and boothill She is still on most of my team and I got her signature lightcones which my most intelligent investment.
Mostly agree on the list, especially Harmony MC (the fact that it has a - for now - unique mechanic that totally enables the very existence of a separate style of play is insane). But I would like to express my feeling about 2 of the candidates presented. But a disclaimer: it is my own opinion and I'm by no means an expert in this field, just a guy who likes to theorycraft: 1) HuoHuo, in my opinion, is not a character who deserves to be near the likes of others. While it is true that she combines functions of a sustain unit and a harmony one (by buffing and energy-regenerating with her ult), and it makes her an interesting and unique character - I feel that the main problem of any healer wrecks her too hard (e2 is not a viable solution, it's just for very special people). A lot of the most dangerous enemies can theoretically kill your party without them making an action - not a "oneshot" per se, but several enemies acting in a row and hitting the same unit or making AOE. And, when talking about exactly healers, the absolute best of them can work outside of their turn: Luocha and Galagher. First one is obvious - but the old doggo can also do it when timing your party ults just right to hit the drunk enemies mid-turn. And while this HuoHuo's drawback isn't always present since not every boss/elite can do it - but the most dangerous can and exactly they require your very best. Which HuoHuo sadly is not. 2) Though she's very new and not much statistics have been gathered about her, I'm not sure about Yunli. While her damage is nice, it feels nowhere near levels of Acheron and Firefly and even Kafka+BS. And, while she can theoretically hit multiple times in a turn under right circumstances - in practice a lot of enemies may get CCd, broken or just dead by the time of their turn and they won't trigger Yunli's counter. Of course we don't want it and have to play accordingly but sometimes there is no other way, like in Apocalyptic Shadow when the boss is weakness broken and skips a lot of turns. Which makes her great in some modes - and not so in others. Maybe I'm wrong about Yunli and her counter-damage is so high that it can compensate for her slow moments - but right now I'm not convinced.
I was surprised recently when I managed to fully clear all 3 game modes, but after watching this, I now see that, becasue I have everyone on this list fully built with exception of Gallagher, (who I haven’t built yet) and Acheron (who I skipped, sue me) I pretty much have a fully complete roster. I even managed to get E1S1 on all 3 Harmony Trinity characters (except Robin, I somehow got her S2 in a two in two ten pulls situation) along with E1S1 Yunli and E2S1 Firefly. Also thank you for mentioning Yunli I feel so vindicated. She really made clearing the most recent MOC possible for me.
Gallagher's healing and sp positivity for a 4* is the main attractive he has imo, he probably has even better healing than luocha if not for his emergency healing
Im surprised jiaoqiu isnt here on the list. Dude smokes purefiction and works well in everything else too. He is to archeron as blackswan is to kafka but you can use him on a kafka team as well since his status counts as a DOT
If you would have told me a year ago that kafka would keep up with the meta better than jingliu, blade, and dan heng i would have thought you were crazy. But it gives me hope that the right support can bring anyone back into the meta
Pretty good list, but i feel like you're not giving Gallagher enough credit. Dude is cracked for a 4 star. I have every sustain in the game (Gepard E1, Luocha, Huohuo, Fuxuan, Lynx, Natasha, Bailu E1, Aventurine E6, Gallagher E2) and i find myself using Gallagher on one half of end game content way more than i thought i would. The toughness damage and SP generation is so good, not to mention his superbreak damage if used with HarmonyTB.
I feel like Boothill should've been top 10 with KafkaSwan bumped down to honorable mentions, but that aside the rest are about what I'd expect and Yunli getting some respect is nice to see
kinda surprised dh:il isn't on here I know he fell off the meta a bit but compared to someone like yunli I really think he's still very good maybe im just coping bc I main him.
Disagree with Yunli being good in Apoc Shadow. The gamemode is all about breaking enemies to increase the damage they take. However, broken enemies don't attack, which makes counterattacked like Clara almost unusable. For the current one, the current buffs are suited to Yunli, so she can get away with using the weaker Intuit: Slash. However, it will be hard to say that she'll still be good the next rotation of this gamemode.
I kinda agree with the other person saying to wait and see for a lineup without phys weakness, but I do want to say that unlike Clara who can't get any damage out of her counters/ult at all that it's not hard to sneak in an Intuit: Cull while they're weakness broken either by just ulting twice after break or by deliberately triggering a Slash before breaking. Depending on the team, it's not unrealistic to be able to squeeze in more than one Intuit: Cull either (especially if the current AS refills ult, since that'll give her two "charges" immediately).
I think sparkle is the only character I disagree with, sparkle is a great unit don’t get me wrong, but robin can do the same things she can but better for more meta teams. Sparkle really only works in hypercarry and I’m gonna be honest she is only +1 skill point every 3 turns because she HAS to skill every turn to do her job so her skill point niche is kind’ve fake and misleading. With the meta shifting away from just hypercarry and more focused around duo carry/ dot/ break, there’s less reason to pull on a unit like sparkle especially when bronya can do very similar things already. I get sparkle in a way is a direct upgrade to bronya but it’s just not a valuable investment when hypercarry isn’t as viable as it used to be
II’m surprised you mentioned Yunli and feel like I should agree. The main weakness Yunli has is that she needs to be hit and despite being the destruction character, she barely gets targeted without her signature LC. Energy regeneration is a slight problem as she has Tingyun to regenerate energy for her and every time she gets hit she gains 15 energy along with the normal energy gained from being hit and the counter that comes after. But as I said she needs to be hit for that to happen. Luckily Lynx is available so it should help a bit with that.
I’m pretty new, but I pulled Himeko on my first 16 pulls. It made me so happy. So far she is my only 5 star. I should get another in about 30 more pulls since I’m going for Rappa right now. If I don’t get her on soft pitty I should at least get another 5 star. I’m not sure I’ll be able to continue through hard pitty if I’m that unlucky. I have a work life and other things. I am also not really wanting to waste tons of money on just one game. While I really want Rappa, I’m set on staying F2P until I know I LOVE the game. Definitely liking the game, but my obsession is starting to wane a bit. We will see if I’m still a fan in a few months or years. If I am still a fan. I might whale a little bit for characters I really want/need to get a solid party.
Himeko's one of the reasons I started playing Star Rail and it frustrates me that I still don't have her. Meanwhile, I've gotten 2 copies of Bailu and Yanqing, 2 characters I'll never build. Ruan Mei's one of my favorite characters alongside the DoT mommies. She's also the first time I got 2 copies in the same 10-pull so I have a lot of love for her. It's awesome that she has a lot of utility in any team comp. I think Harmony Trailblazer is the best HOYO MC so far. I think they're also one of the best in gacha gaming, but so far I'm partial to WuWa's Rover. Especially the Havoc version, which I think is a top-tier DPS in the game. One of the few times I've seen where the MC actually lives up to their status as a legendary character. It also helps that his leveling materials are just handed to you so he'll be one of the first characters you max level in the game.
Tbh robin is better than ruan mei in my opinion since action advance in moc and pf is really needed bc of the limited cycles as well as having amazing fua synergy which pretty much every character nowdays has one while ruan mei is great her bis break team cant fully use her kit since her massive dmg% is wasted and in dot she isnt the peak support and in that team robin alows the team to save a cycle bc of action advance👍
I haven’t seen many opinions in either direction for Yunli but don’t underestimate her. Clara was already believed to be the highest ceiling DPS for a long time, her flaw was inconsistency/circumstantiality. Yunli solves those issues while doing more with blast counters and a perfect taunt on ult
bronya as a boss (normal or complete) cleanses all debuffs with one of her abilities other that that, there arent any enemies that can cleanse themselves/others
I like going into these types of videos with my own predictions to compare my knowledge and experience with Mr RUclipsr difference being that I have more peculiar opinions about a character's value :p My personal top 10 in order: 1. Robin 2. Acheron 3. Aventurine 4. Ruan Mei 5. Boothill 6. Firefly 7. Fu Xuan 8. HuoHuo 9. Yunli 10. Kafka
gallagher: *insanely sp positive, can solo sustain in all content, best abuser of quid pro quo and multiplication, debuffs, does damage* vars: yeaaah lets put yunli up there!
Mentioning Yunli instead of Kafka and BS and even sparkle is genuinely insane I’m not gonna lie you to you. At least yunli has the highest average cycle clears any of the dps while sparkle niche is falling off so is Kafka and BS
I love Yunli’s gameplay so much that I had to put aside my astronomical hate of her personality because she is that much fun to play. I have skipped a lot of strong af characters just because I dont like one aspect of them (Firefly, Sparkle, Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, Seele, all skipped) but I had to swallow my pride and get Yunli despite my hate, counters and parries feel right at home for me.
"[Himeko] is not someone you should go out of your way for," yeah well I already did... and I'd do it again. Glad she's finally getting some recognition.
tbh i disagree on ruan mei a lot. ever since robin she lost a ton of her value, she isn't best in slot for any meta team besides break anymore. robin and JQ can do just as well or better in dot, hypercarry never wanted her to begin with. The robin + gallagher combo is so good you have people running e0 acheron with it and 0 cycling. As someone who doesnt play break i didn't even bother picking her up, wouldn't know where to play her either. The only dps i have that would remotely want her is jingliu and she can just use robin + gallagher + bronya for infinite turns instead.
Yunli really is very strong in every mode. I pulled her just because I like sword characters but she actually can full clear any content in the game easily
As soon as I saw the title of this video, I thought 'Acheron, Firefly, Ruan Mei, Robin, Sparkle, Pela, Kafka, Fu Xuan, Boothill, Black Swan' Let's see how many I get right..
I'm surprised you put himeko instead of jade given how jade is just straight up better. Being more universal and also replacing himeko in her best team.
I must mention one if the biggest reasons why Gallagher is so good, is that hes an insanely good SP battery aswell, i rarely ever see people mention that aspect of him. (he can also ulitlies Multiplication And Quid pro Quo, some of the best abundance LCs) Ik this vid was way before much of Lingsha was known publically, But the reason Lingsha doesnt 100% replace Gallagher, is cause she is not SP positive and is High SP usage teams itll be difficult to use her (She still has better healing and damage tho)
Another Point, Boothill does perfectly fine without HMC, His best team (Sustained) is BH, Bronya, Ruan Mei and Gallagher Ofc In a sustainless team you can replace Gallagher with HMC (do hope someday we'll get a character thats a mix between Bronya and HMC tho, cause that 100% advance is too valuable to pass up)
I started with 2.0 and I regret nor having kafka , I would want play dot but i dont have any . Next patch will be super fun 🤩 because I will pull for kafka and bs . Wish me luck
Me, whom felt burned by Black Swan getting passed up for Sparkle's rerun, seeing her -- the last character on my rerun shortlist -- on a new type of banner (with a new pity count...) alongside Feixiao. Good thing I've basically had tickets to burn, and did so "risking" for Jiaoqiu to get Guinaifen to E4...only to find she'll be running alongside Moze (obligatory target for my four-star collection) and Lingsha (with my current preferred main team being "IPC"...). Ugh, this is gonna be a heckuva patch to chase for.
Decided to draw some parallels with Genshin: 10-Ruan Mei/Furina/Best universal buffer 9-Aventurine/Zhongli/Best tank 8-Acheron/Neuvillette/Best braindead DPS 7-Huo Huo/Kokomi/Best healer 6-Sparkle/Bennet 5-Firefly/Nilou/Best niche DPS 4-HMC/Xiangling/Best F2P character 3-Robin/Kazuha 2-Kafka and Black Swan/ Nahida and Kuki/Best drivers 1-Yun Lin/Arlecchino
let's be fr this list is full of lukewarm takes and not having bronya or tingyun and putting gallagher there bc oooh oooh powercreep is crazy bc who doesnt get powercreeped 😭
@@baluttery vars is known for his takes that's for sure. Just ask genshin and LoL community lmao. Bias over two exclusive limited 5 star against one is onething. Knowing kafka bs rm huohuo is just worse than boothill rm bronya aven/gallagher in moc and apoc is another. Not to mention, albeit boothill has no place in pure fiction, kafka bs is just underperforming than any other better and less costly alternative. It's just a bias over the strongest pair in dot archetype.
Not having jiaoqiu in this list is criminal. By far the best debuffer on the game, can contribute with his own damage that is actually good cause of his err conversion to atk, is amazing for dps who depend on their burst for damage, but offers amazing debuffs to all the enemis in the field with 100% uptim and persists trough all waves. Easily one of my best pulls in the game, I dont get why people are sleeping on him
I will have it hard as a dolphin in 2.5. I have nearly 90 pulls ready and get another something like 90 from from buying the biggest pakage for double value. What I want is Feixiao, her weapon and Robin. Until now I got shafted on HuoHuo und Yunli und Jiaqiao was the only one I won the 50/50 after 75 pulls und I needed always a minimum of 75 for 5*. I hope so much that I win 50/50 at Feixiao.
Glad to hear the Harmony Trailblazer praise!!! They genuinely deserve to be praised so much! Caelus and Stelle have been nothing but the BEST!! Hsr best game fr! Harmony trailblazer is such a gem of a support character
I know everyone says Ruan Mei is a fantastic support, but I hate her too much to pull lmao (same goes for Sparkle). Love seeing Aventurine on this list because he is just AMAZING. No one compares to his shield.
Boothill not being on the list is why I dont like the Hsr community. Kafka and black swan are here but dot is literally drowning meanwhile boothill can 500k with rainbow relics and a low grade lightcone. Like are yall foreal? Firefly literally falls apart without harmony mc while boothill continues to nuke. I do own both on my account.
Harmony Trailblazer is my favorite character in HSR due to his incredible versatility and potency in various contents. In my opinion, he is much better than Ruan Mei for break teams because his super break buff, break effect buffs, and damage is much stronger than Ruan Mei. Harmony trailblazer with Robin and Ruan Mei is extremely powerful since HTB’s skill multiplier is approximately 370% at E6 and trace level 12 making it very powerful with the necessary attack.
the fact that when I stopped playing Dan Heng (dragon) was anout the best DPS in the game and now the doesn't even show up here is really not motivating me to pick up the game again
Unfortunately, Star Rail meta has really shifted away from hypercarry as a team comp, even with Sparkle's release. Due not being AoE and his skill point necessity, he's bad in PF where hypercarry (AoE specifically) will see the most use. FuA with Ratio is a stronger team than DHIL hypercarry in MoC, and break is argubably the king of meta rn. The only hypercarry team outside of PF that's meta is Acheron and that's it.
Who should i pair My Himeko and Gallagher with? I just started playing and pulled both of them of loosing fifty fifty (Also who should i spent My guaranteed on?)
I'd give this 5 minutes before it gets outdated.
Check back in a couple of weeks for whether or not I'm replacing anyone on this list with Feixiao or Lingsha! (Spoiler alert: Gallagher mains in shambles xd)
Gallagher mains been doom posting Lingsha since her V1 beta. “She’s better than Gallagher but not by much” as if this game hasn’t shown us with Yunli vs Clara, if the gap isn’t big enough they’ll make it bigger (I.E the new enemies being released).
The thing about sustains is that if your sustain can keep up with the endgame modes, it doesn't really matter if some other sustain is better. My Lynx E6 still works just fine on both MOC and AS, so I have no intent on replacing her anytime soon. Same thing with Gallagher. DPS and Support units are more important IMO.
Still, I fear that the powercreep of HSR starts affecting sustains too, aka Hoyo making enemies in future versions deal so much damage that old sustains will simply not keep up.
Yes that's what we need, a sustain who can deal more damage than Gallagher who regularly hits 300k+ on ult. Biggest luxury pull of all time, if she's even better than him at all. Seeing what they did to Jiaoqiu I'm not expecting Lingsha to be much of an upgrade to E6 Gallagher. Like I don't even know what you could even ask her to do that Gallagher doesn't. Maybe increase break efficiency even further but she ain't doing that...
@@highwaytoheaven99 If that does happen, tanks are going to be more powerful than sustains
@@highwaytoheaven99 They can also make enemies even more tanky forcing your sustain to have a big support function too. (Example : huo huo,buffs and energy, and aventurine, damage and debuffs)
Enemy guards their weakness bar
Firefly : Wait ... That's illegal
i hate when it happens :,v
Boothill: muddle fudger you son of a nice lady
xueyi:
As a break fan, yeah, that hurts, especially the sequence trotters occurrence in SU, since one of them starts with their weakness already locked, no swords or bullets can penetrate that bastard
The Trotter suddenly become too OP for FF 😂
Boothill not even in Honorable Mentions? Honestly this feels like bias against him at this point, especially when he has more freedom to choose teammates compared to Firefly requiring two units. Boothill's probably the only team where Luka can perform decent, Bronya effectively doubles his damage, Pela is still a top tier amplifier for his damage. Is being bad in one game mode really enough to ignore him being top tier in the other two?
If performance in all three game modes is really that important then where's Jiaoqiu? While he's slightly worse in Pure Fiction than Himeko, he's still the main battery for Acheron finally being top tier in that mode while also being useful for DoT teams. Even outside of Acheron teams, he's a replacement for Topaz on Ratio teams, can be an amplifier for Yunli teams, and works for the aforementioned DoT team with near 100% uptime on his debuff+dot. I'd argue he's about as universal as Sparkle but slightly less effective, so while I could maybe agree that he's not top 10, I'd value his damage amp the same level as Fu Xuan's tanking and Himeko's Pure Fiction specialization. Are we're putting value in general use? I'd argue Jiaoqiu is a more worthwhile investment than getting another DPS character because amplifiers are just that much valuable in teambuilding. Are we instead putting value in highest potential? Well, he's the best amplifier for one of the best units in the game and a top tier amplifier for a few other top tier units... sort of how Trailblazer is Firefly's engine but you can slot Trailblazer into a Boothill team as a slightly weaker Bronya substitute.
To be fair, 2 units of that firefly team are free, and with eidolons, so...
@@skyrres66 I mean if cheapness vs. premium matters, KafkaSwan shouldn't be here on this list at all because it requires two 5* units. Move an honorable mention to top 10 and slot Jiao, Boot, or hell even Pela in the honorable mentions. Pela could work there because of how accessible and flexible she is in many teams. Hypercarry Boothill (sustainless) runs Pela with double Harmony while double Nihility Acheron runs Jiao + Pela. She's imo a more universal support than Tingyun especially if they keep making Acherons for other archetypes.
Also if we're talking cheap teams, Ratio + Hunt March 7th are both free and Robin is the premium Harmony like Ruan Mei. Anyone you can slot into that trio, whether sustain, amplifier, or secondary dps would have an equal cost team to Firefly.
@@skyrres66 What are you talking about? You do realise that Boothill can utilise both Gallagher and HMC? In fact one of his best teams is with Gallagher and if the enemies have imaginary weakness? HMC.
Compared to Firefly, he is more flexible in his teams and can work well with Pela. Because defense ignore is one of the few things that can increase break damage.
Boothill not being a honorable mention atleast is criminal
I think the reason is, he's hamstrung by being single-target, which effectively makes him the new Seele insofar as you basically need to kill those trash mobs in one attack to make him efficient.... which is easy on the Break team, but might be hard on a Crit team for a new player.
Boothill is the single target GOAT. The thing with him is, well, u need to know what you’re doing and 90% of people playing are not willing to go that far, so they he’s worse than FF. IMO he might be even better than Feixiao and much cheaper to run
@@l0st1nv0idthis community and sleeping on Boothill is such an iconic duo, even some of the sweatier players see him as better than FF but the general player still sleeps on Hunt as a path, because it requires you to use your brain a bit and we are so used to units just basically playing themselves.
@@Radiant450 players sleep on hunt units because the main forms of endgame, MOC, apoc shadow and pure fiction, have more than one unit at a time. hence the AOE units like acheron, jade, firefly are meta instead of the hunt ones like seele, boothill, ratio
@@lillyieur acting like e0 firefly is any playable in this pf tho (especially when fire meta runs out)
not to mention seele does well with newer supports in pf
As a huge Huohuo fan, seeing her right at the top fills me with joy. I was expecting her to not appear, but with this i feel more proud of my E1 Huohuo.
In huohuo we trust 🙏
Giving battery and ATK bonus while easily sustaining and making all enemy debuffs a joke... yeah, HuoHuo's the goat
Wdym huo huo IS thé second best healer right now
@@the_nick_knackIt's so hilarious having Huohuo's talent active and Kafka uses her single target domination to give my character a free turn lmao.
@fukanoonwish999 2 reasons:
1) Being a healer isn't necessarily a good thing in this game. We haven't reached the "pure healing meta" of Genshin in Hsr. If a healer wants to be good, it must do something else. And even then, healers aren't still in a good view.
2) I've hear a lot of people not being too... how can I say it... in the need of Huohuo. Saying things like "skip", "not necessary", etc.
Now, I'm new to the game. So you shouldn't take everything that I say for granted. I'm just happy that Huohuo is still meta
Aventurine really do be the embodiment of I CANT STOP WINNING *slot machine noise
I swear Ruan Mei is the Xiangling of HSR, and my hatred for both is at an all time high lmao
Same
As a Childe main, you have no idea how much I felt this. I pulled Ruan just because I have both Firelfy and Kafka. Otherwise I wouldn't have pulled for her.
she's also the most overloaded harmony character ever. i don't get how she got nerfed before going live.
-provides speed just for existing
-increases damage
-increases weakness efficiency
-increases all type res pen
-makes enemies take break damage a second time
other harmony characters only increase damage or have some gimmick like sparkle providing skill points, bronya making an ally immediately take action. not to mention other harmonies having to build crit damage like bronya or sparkle. ruan mei doesn't have that and is free to dump all her stats into break effect
@@Bartobatos The one reason I won’t get Tartag is bc I hate national teams😭
But yeah, I’m glad I di have Sparkle and Robin, bc I don’t want to depend on RM ever :(
I am tired of this i try to play firefly i need ruan mei i want to play kafka her best team has ruan mei i go for boothil guess what his he must have ruan mei
Knowing how meta progress in hsr i bet that aither the rankings will change drastically in just 5 months
dps sure but supports? i dont see how robin or ruan mei will ever be irrelevant. unless energy drain enemies get spammed left and right or enemies perma lock their toughness bars but that would fuck over literally every other unit in the game. maybe ruan mei will get outclassed by a dedicated break support in the future but idk nothings stopping you from using them together :P
Dot already fell off
@@curryfishheadenjoyer virgin dps' can never last as long as chad supports
Yeah 100%, the game only powercreeps more and more (as this is the main method to sell units in HSR) especially dps units, so no dps units have as much longevity as supports and even then dps don’t last that long before another top dog comes by.
@@curryfishheadenjoyer not saying they'll fall off soon but we literal said the same thing about bronya and seele😭
While BH does benefit from HMC, he doesn't need them. Most people would use bronya with him since 2 actions is too much to give up
i’d say he barely benefits from hmc he kills stuff too fast for superbreak fo be useful enough (atleast in my case)
Yup, Boothill doesn’t even want HMC in his premium team unless you’re doing a sustainless run. Boothill wants Ruan Mei and Bronya the most, but even then you can also sub in other 4* such as Luka or Pela. And now that we have Jiaoqiu, you can also use him in Boothill teams. He’s more flexible than most people would think! Honestly I’d put him in the runner up, he’s at least comparable to Yunli in all game modes except PF
@@seang7578 funny how both Yunli and Boothill being very strong while also having their EN VA being married. Love knows no bound
Not at least honorable mentioning Boothill is kinda feel wrong ngl, as much as Boothill is hard to use and is more or less useless in PF, he's still probably the most ridiculous character when you look deeply into his kit. Imo, he will probably be way more future proof compare to FF whose is kinda like Jingliu when she's first released (a basically perfect kit with no flawed and a perfect team but as time goes on, you'll realize that having a perfect kit basically means there's no actual solutions to help you reach higher heights compare to the other more high risk high rewards character)
Number 1 is gonna be OPPA Ruan Mei again, I'm calling it.
dont talking about my oppar Like that he IS mine unnie
robin is better
@@semheim nope
@@semheimngl depends you need two teams for moc,pf,AS anyway
Why XL ruanmei is a support if anything shouldn’t it be Kazuha
i understand not putting bh in the 10 list because he is purely single target and the list takes all modes into account , but he is still out of all dps that no matter how thick the enemies get he will keep scaling with them he can get crazy bleeds all while being able to run a tank build out of all dps characters he is the most ridicules one when you really look into his kit fully. so to not even get an hm placement is shocking but i understand it not everyone wants a master of a single archetype.
Thisss! Love that you mentioned building him as a tank. He’s one of the easiest dps to build, just stacking as much break effect as you can and then make sure he survives, he’ll one shot anything. Idk how that isn’t enough to make him an honorable mention
I think you severely underestimate Gallagher. He has an insane niche.
He, beyond absolutely and objectively any other sustain, sees ridiculously good usage in high level play. Gallagher can and will generate enough skill points for three characters when zero cycling. For someone to directly replace him, you would need good energy req (turn 1 ult), action advance by 100%, and skill point positivity to an insane degree.
It's funny, as any other people privy to the dark arts know, that Lingsha simply doesn't do those things.
Dude is literally uber SP+. I think his only con is that he lacks emergency heals, he already has a cleanse and all that stuff.
Lingsha is more like a Luocha powercreep instead of Gallagher... And she's also more SP hungry than Gallagher which is one of her biggest downsides. While she might be a good upgrade to Break teams, E6 Gallagher is just as valuable as E0 Lingsha.
Lingsha sucks ass, she is a side grade to Gallagher for 180 wishes😊
@@usmanya5110since his ult action advances himself, doesn’t he get one unless you time it a bit wrong?
@@wongo6828 Luocha if he actually supported the team beyond healing and a buff cleanse
This might be an unpopular opinion but I think Jiaoqiu should be on this list. Most people discredit him as just an Acheron support but I argue that he isn't, it's just that he happens to be Acheron's BiS. He's a generalist debuffer who will age well once we got more DPS who rely on ULT damage or more units like Acheron and Ratio who deals damage based on applying debuffs. He's at the moment the best debuffer in game which has more room for future potential.
When the time comes, he'll shine. Just like how himeko was rotting at bottom tier at 1.0 and look at her now
I mean, we already have Argenti and he does not want Jiaoqiu. Energy matters a lot for ultimate focused units and eventually we'll get a harmony unit that buffs ultimate dmg. Outside of the debuff+ultimate niche, he won't be relevant at all.
I see your point but his kit overlaps too much with Pela. Only works best with Acheron, and even then is replaceable. He kinda is DLC for a DLC character
I think the primary "issue" here is that while he is *very* good, he is upgrading a one of the best 4*s in the game. And he IS a very nice upgrade to her, but he isn't necessarily changing how we build teams outside of maybe E0 Acheron.
To be clear, I also think that's perfectly fine. We don't need every new limited unit to shake up the game (and I think it's better if they don't). Taking an existing role and being even better at it is great. But I get why he isn't on this list in the same way RM or Robin are. Their impact on account when you have them vs. don't is just significantly larger than JQ's is, UNLESS you have Acheron (especially E0 Acheron).
And like you said, he's probably going to age very well. As we get more units who value Ult damage like Acheron does, his value is just gonna go up. But I think it's fair for him to not be on this list *yet.*
To be clear, I did pull for JQ, and I don't have Acheron. I DO think he's valuable/good. Got him in 70 pulls. That said, I do kinda regret it, given the current state of my account, because I should have stopped at 40 pulls. I think he'd have definitely been worth that *for me.* But I'm also not beating myself up about it, because he IS good and I WILL get good mileage out of him. Just really should have waited for a rerun.
Yeah definitely an unpopular opinion.
ngl i think bronya deserves a honourable mention as well, simply because of how much she provides. Literally sparkle but sp hungry and works for fast teams and actually buffs more than sparkle in terms of dmg alone. literally her only problem is sp, but if we look past that, she is an absolute beast.
As an E3S3 bronya owner, I second this 😂
Nah she is ass, her buffs are low and hard to get ult up, takes 3 turns and also super sp hungry
I still use her with Blade cuz she works best with him
Bronya will be by far the best support in the game for any unit that can properly benefit from her. Everyone talks about how much better Ruan Mei and Robin are, but Jingliu still prefers Bronya over everyone else.
@@sct77 ehh Jingliu can't use Bronya to the max and primary reason she wants her is just the action advance and doesnt need that many skill points
@@sct77 bruh Bronya is good for just Blade and Jingliu
Stop coping, there are many better dps than Jingliu, Acheron, Firefly, Boothill
None of them need Bronya
Bronya might not even be top 20 cuz support like Pela and Asta are more universal and skill point efficient
honestly, its weird (and stupid) not seeing boothill in the list. yes he got "powercrept" by firefly, HOWEVER boothill is a physical break dps. physical break doesnt scale from atk, but from the max hp of the enemy. of course there is a limit, but he will almost always oneshot any enemy. with his self infliction of physical weakness, it goes without saying that feixaio and boothill are tied for best hunt dps
he didnt get powercrept by firefly please stop
"And stupid." This is HIS list.
Have to agree with the people saying shoving bs/kafka into the list over Topaz is questionable.
Topaz works so well with Dr.Ratio who is a free character a lot of accounts have, having her to pair with him only increases account value. On top of that her exploration is also a huge benefit to a lot of casual players, I know people who want to pull her just for the chest benefit, and the game made it worthwhile to have her on an account with ratio since they work well together. The only game mode single target FuA suffers in is PF and thats not always true (ive been successful with my team in pf, albeit i have e1 robin)
I will not get tired of saying this. It is one thing to have the MC be actually good. It's another thing to not only have them be not only the pioneer of a new Meta Playstyle. But also a forefront. I only played Magia Record and FGO as my Turn Base Mobile Game and even then. Mash and Iroha didn't even get this good
unless it's physical mc of course, but the other two are excellent
@@lillyieehhhhh calling fire mc excellent is kind of a stretch. Not terrible very serviceable but aside from march I’d rather have any other preservation
@@avej99 I don't think Fire Mc is great, but he does do a great job at being a taunter and absorbing massive amounts of damage. It's just that a lot of enemies have hard hitting aoe and their shield is more of a novelty than an actual help
@@avej99yeah, fire mc just does the job but that doesn't necessarily mean it's that good
@@1350_ Name another 4 star character tank that does a better job than him.. wait you cant XD
He is decently good at his job, if his shields were bigger it would be just broken lol.
And btw i use it, probably you dont, and i need to say, played well does the trick very fine even better than gepard sometimes (unless the battle is pure aoe then you will suffer) I use him in the Acheron Team with Day One of My New Life/Trend LC and she tanks like a champ + I keep nasty debuffs out of my team with the taunt yea, for All 3 engame modes full stars.
People just forget how people were all using him instead of gepard in how good he was + being free at the start, but now we have better options(healers for the most part) and HMC existing there is no reason to use the tank path but even for a free unit she is just really unique.
To be fair to Boothill, who you didn't mention, he's not reliant on HMC the way Firefly is. There are lots of top teams that don't use her but instead go for Bronya for more actions. He's also a very strong unit, tho I am loathe to admit it. His ceiling is super high but it requires a lot of both game knowledge and luck tbh. Firefly's kit is completely overloaded with QoL compared to him so that's why she is usually held in higher regard. And this is from someone who is team Firefly 100%
No boothill, still putting kafka/swan as top tier, this video is just feels crafting
Lmfao my exact thoughts
I was going to comment this lmao
14:25 the only enemy that can cleanse is bronya and she has screwed many of my nihility runs
Its funny because some playstyles except crit has a boss that its like, "Welp, our you restart the run, or i doit for you" And i am happy for it, DOT is Cocolia and bronya and for breakers is Yanqing.
I'm suprised to see bronya or JQ not be honorable mentions. Bronya because her buffs are pretty big and possibly can be even bigger than sparkle though the SP- does kinda hurt her abit. And Jiaoqiu while he's mostly about acheron he'd still a very strong debuffer and possibly the best general debuffer.
It's kinda icky to see kafka blackswan in the top 10 when dot is i ln a very weird abd icky spot in the meta right now. They have almost no place in apocalyptic shadow, and is barely keeping up with break/fua teams in moc. And even in pf their ease of use and value heavily relies on pf cycle, as they can also underperform given the circumstances. Kafka and black swan is good, but I don't think them being the best of their niche is noteworthy to include in top 10. As for who would deserve it more, I think it would be either boothill or jiaoqiu.
Boothill has low ceiling performance and can destroy moc and apoc no sweat even with a 3 star weapon(mind you, better than a four 5 star kafka dot team) while jiaoqiu enables acheron to surface as a unit that excels in every mode with how much debuff consistency he gives to her, not to mention, his other teams are by no means far behind, he's been proving his value as a good substitute in argenti/yunli/ratio teams.
Heavy bias on a somewhst struggling archetype because they are the best out of the peapod is weird to me, not to mention you make a top unit a pair, on which both are limited 5 stars, and still underperforms compared to other meta teams rn.
Funny how the 2.5 livestream just happened before this video and a lot of people feared for Gallagher and Luocha when they revealed Lingsha's kit.
As for me, I'm thinking "Oh neat, I have more options!"
Gallghers being able to run Quid Pro Quo and just be a hyper speed sp generator for robin teams will still keep him super viable in follow up teams
Lingsha will definitely be the go to for sustaining Break teams moving forward, replacing Gallagher in that slot, but he’s far more versatile. He’s still a really effective sustain for Acheron, Quid Pro Quo charging is always nice for more expensive teams, and most importantly, he’s far more accessible than Lingsha. If we’re talking about ceilings and optimal units, Lingsha will beat him out, but Gallagher will always be available as you play the game, meaning you don’t necessarily NEED Lingsha
@@harrya9458 Honestly, because of her follow-up heal mechanic, I'd consider running Lingsha with FUA attackers like Feixiao and Ratio while Gallagher gets to stay with FF Super Break.
Hmm lets see... Acheron. Firefly. Aventurine. Alright done!
Count to 10, challenge impossible
He's probably being sarcastic @@ytrewqfdsacxz3181
@@noir3662 if you're being sarcastic at least do it right. Skully
Ruan Mei and Robin too
@@Pepegaphone-- I'm being genuine
I actually agree with the list lol
But Boothill definitely deserves a spot and Robin is better than Ruan Mei in every scenario except the break team, i know FF users always say Ruan Mei is the best support in the game but no, Robin is
Seeing Yunli is nice tho, for some reason not a lot of people talk about her even tho she is insanely strong and good in every single endgame mode
I am biased on her dmg as i have E1S1 but my Yunli is throwing out 800k enhanced counters, ults all the time due to her insane energy gain and since i pulled HuoHuo’s LC specifically for her, she heals every time she ults too on top of her very impressive skill self heal
Yunli is a powerhouse
Where's boothil?
my thoughts exactly
Not having boothill in a top 10 is kinda crazy
Vars is kinda catered towards casuals (or overly casual even) I guess, and to them easier to use and more reliable but not necessarily stronger units are better.
I believe that Boothill is definitely one of the strongest units in the game, it’s just that the causal players dont make the most out of him.
ya, he's top 3 dps for sure. like he's good at moc and st like ff. ff might be better for pf, but why use her in pf when himeko is better there. id say remove kafka and bs, until there is a limited dot supp.
@@Radiant450I feel like that’s more reason to put Boothill on the list then because he’s one of the easiest dps to build. You don’t need to find specific crit pieces and you don’t even need a full set, just stack as much break damage as you can. You can even make him a tank and not worry about your dps getting one shotted.
Himeko didn’t age gracefully, she rapidly aged backwards into the prime of her life.
"right now we dont have many enemies who can cleanse, if any at all"
me remembering how bronya cleanses cocolia after stacking a lot of debuffs: 😔😔😔
Video Idea: Should HSR add another element/path to the game? Think of it like Dendro in Genshin Impact?
I Mean like, what kind of path could they even added to HSR ? They already put in all the classic RPG classes.
The Hunt: Rouge, Assassin
Erudition: Mage
Destruction: Bruiser, Fighter
Nihility: Debuffer
Harmony: Buffer
Abundance: Healer
Preservation: Tank.
Elements don't really do anything in the game except just add one more weakness break check in enemies
No not really because the "debuffs" and "DoT" effects thst the elements do for breaking.....became very negligible since chars can just applie better debuffs that aren't related to the path at all
Adding an extra element is pretty unnecessary tbh
@@martindevin798 first thing comes to my mind
Propagation: Summoner.
like the swarm😈
all the elements just do the same thing with their weakness breaking so there is no point adding more
bleed does damage
burn does damage
wind shear does stacking damage
shock does damage
freeze skips their turn
entanglement delays action and does stacking damage
imprisonment delays action and reduces speed
they're just the same flavor of delaying enemies or dealing damage. we don't need more elements
i'm really surprised you mentioned yunli instead of boothill
She’s more universal for all game modes so it makes sense
@@kaikaikai4477so the criteria for being strong is if they can clear end game modes? But boothill one shots everything, I feel like he deserves to be considered really strong for that
@@yessir68 he’s strong no question but between these two she looks like a better overall option
@@yessir68that’s not what they said at all lmao
to many people sleep on Yunli, although having her LC really helps her out in everything since it makes her aggro enemies and buffs her dps. Shes always on one of my teams as a sort of tank and dps. She really does feel universal, esp with how hard her ult hits and her follow up attacks when enemies hit her. Shes just a way better Clara in every way.
Btw boothill doesn’t run harmony mc, he has built in superbreak in a way
where in his kit does he have superbreak?
@@mewstone8442 he said "in a way'" referring to boothill's Talent
Boothill still benefits from HMC since super break scales with toughness reduction and Boothill’s enhanced basic has toughness reduction for days. You might still be better off running harmony character with turn advance just to get more turns in but it’s not like HMC doesn’t help at all
@kairos-049 HMC doesn't really help. His issue isn't damage so he doesn't need superbreak. Pela or silverwolf are still better. Hanya or Bronya
@@kairos-049 He benefits from HmC... But bronya action advance is what a lot of people opt for over the overkill of superbreak damage
where boothill :-[
Gotta be honest, Topaz not even being an honorable mention is shocking. She's as much of a driver for FuA as Robin is (albeit not as strong outside it) and FuA is currently the most powerful team engine in the game. IMO, she's more deserving to be on the list than Kafka and Black Swan, who had to share a spot because their archetype has fallen so far out of relevance that you had to combine them into one spot just to force them onto the list. She's literally Kafka for a better archetype, Kafka has no business being on this list if Topaz isn't on it.
Kafka and Black Swan are the only 2 characters I actually wanted to get, most of the others were just something among - ''I'm at 50-50, what's the worst that can happen?'' Now these 2 are permanent with Ruan Mei and Luocha, all 4 with signatures, wish only my relics were any good but even so, they made the game easy.
Shocked to see Yunli granted I saw most people say they were skipping her. (As a Yunli fan who got E3 I am happy though) rest of the list was straight forward.
Not putting Boothill even in the honorable mentions was certainly a choice
Edit: Robin too
I said it before, but this channel is for casuals I suppose, and to the casual players boothill and Robin, who require more thought and game knowledge compared to FF and Robin, but imo NOT worse for sure. I would argue BH has a higher ceiling, and Robin is straight up better than RM in all teams now except break.
@Radiant450 as long as you put speed and be on boothill you can literally put any relic on him and not give him a lightcone and still get top tier meta damage with a simple break. He's so braindead to build. How is that not casual friendly? Lmfao.
I love ur videos and always enjoy watching them.BUT WHAT YOU SAID AT 8:50 CAUGHT ME SO OFF GUARD BUT MADE ME LAUGH LMAOOO.
I was looking for 3 minutes trynna see if anyone else caught that 😭😭
I mean, even outside of contracts and leaks, even though I guess you have made this video long before yesterday, the 2.5 live already said Lingsha inflicts break dmg vulnerability with her ult. But even despite this, Gallagher is more debatably more accessible than her anyway, so he still has amazing value
To be fair, the debuff is not damage vulnerability, is the same kind of Gallagher debuff but a bit stronger, it's a multiplicative debuff, so It has harsher diminishing returns, making the actual increase about 4% average, maybe less if the MoC/AS is already giving you break damage buffs
With this and other details with lightcones sinergy, I think that Gallagher E6 is better than lingsha E0 as long as your firefly is also E0, but the difference between them is very low, probably your clears speed is not gonna change at all
Finally some himeko recognition sick of people saying she's not the best standard
Himeko will continue to age gracefully because of how synergistic her kit is with other Erudition characters. My money is on Rappa becoming Himeko's new best friend... since Jade stole Herta.
@@wongo6828i wonder if we'll get like a erudition weakness implanting character something like FF or Boothill but AoE instead of Blast focused.
@@usmanya5110 this would be amazing for her. I once used her for follow up attacks for a firefly team in pf and it went amazingly
probably the best free five stars (same goes for Clara)
Because she literally isnt though
himeko only has her spotlight in pure fiction
the best 5* standard will always be bronya .Being a both dmg up and action forward harmony char make her lowkey viable for every team
'This is my top ten list.'
-Opens list of characters.
-Sorts by recent.
Ruan mei is old but broken for firefly, Kafka,black swan, and boothill
She is still on most of my team and I got her signature lightcones which my most intelligent investment.
The one that comes out next.
Mostly agree on the list, especially Harmony MC (the fact that it has a - for now - unique mechanic that totally enables the very existence of a separate style of play is insane). But I would like to express my feeling about 2 of the candidates presented. But a disclaimer: it is my own opinion and I'm by no means an expert in this field, just a guy who likes to theorycraft:
1) HuoHuo, in my opinion, is not a character who deserves to be near the likes of others. While it is true that she combines functions of a sustain unit and a harmony one (by buffing and energy-regenerating with her ult), and it makes her an interesting and unique character - I feel that the main problem of any healer wrecks her too hard (e2 is not a viable solution, it's just for very special people). A lot of the most dangerous enemies can theoretically kill your party without them making an action - not a "oneshot" per se, but several enemies acting in a row and hitting the same unit or making AOE. And, when talking about exactly healers, the absolute best of them can work outside of their turn: Luocha and Galagher. First one is obvious - but the old doggo can also do it when timing your party ults just right to hit the drunk enemies mid-turn. And while this HuoHuo's drawback isn't always present since not every boss/elite can do it - but the most dangerous can and exactly they require your very best. Which HuoHuo sadly is not.
2) Though she's very new and not much statistics have been gathered about her, I'm not sure about Yunli. While her damage is nice, it feels nowhere near levels of Acheron and Firefly and even Kafka+BS. And, while she can theoretically hit multiple times in a turn under right circumstances - in practice a lot of enemies may get CCd, broken or just dead by the time of their turn and they won't trigger Yunli's counter. Of course we don't want it and have to play accordingly but sometimes there is no other way, like in Apocalyptic Shadow when the boss is weakness broken and skips a lot of turns. Which makes her great in some modes - and not so in others. Maybe I'm wrong about Yunli and her counter-damage is so high that it can compensate for her slow moments - but right now I'm not convinced.
I was surprised recently when I managed to fully clear all 3 game modes, but after watching this, I now see that, becasue I have everyone on this list fully built with exception of Gallagher, (who I haven’t built yet) and Acheron (who I skipped, sue me) I pretty much have a fully complete roster. I even managed to get E1S1 on all 3 Harmony Trinity characters (except Robin, I somehow got her S2 in a two in two ten pulls situation) along with E1S1 Yunli and E2S1 Firefly.
Also thank you for mentioning Yunli I feel so vindicated. She really made clearing the most recent MOC possible for me.
Gallagher's healing and sp positivity for a 4* is the main attractive he has imo, he probably has even better healing than luocha if not for his emergency healing
Im surprised jiaoqiu isnt here on the list. Dude smokes purefiction and works well in everything else too. He is to archeron as blackswan is to kafka but you can use him on a kafka team as well since his status counts as a DOT
i think that my coldest take on the planet is that ruan mei is the hsr equivalent of kazuha
Boothill should have been in that top ten-- especially since he isn't needing to be glued to HMC and has more team options for people
If you would have told me a year ago that kafka would keep up with the meta better than jingliu, blade, and dan heng i would have thought you were crazy. But it gives me hope that the right support can bring anyone back into the meta
Pretty good list, but i feel like you're not giving Gallagher enough credit. Dude is cracked for a 4 star. I have every sustain in the game (Gepard E1, Luocha, Huohuo, Fuxuan, Lynx, Natasha, Bailu E1, Aventurine E6, Gallagher E2) and i find myself using Gallagher on one half of end game content way more than i thought i would. The toughness damage and SP generation is so good, not to mention his superbreak damage if used with HarmonyTB.
Ruan Mei is arguably less valuable than Robin outside of break. Robin is putting up better times in DOT and Hypercarry
W for including Yunli, you know your stuff
Also, Yunli works with so many 4 star supports. If you have Yunli, you have side 1 taken care of. Definitely worthy of the list.
I feel like Boothill should've been top 10 with KafkaSwan bumped down to honorable mentions, but that aside the rest are about what I'd expect and Yunli getting some respect is nice to see
When you make videos like this (where things are numbered/listed), it's best you put timestamps
ikr
kinda surprised dh:il isn't on here
I know he fell off the meta a bit but compared to someone like yunli I really think he's still very good
maybe im just coping bc I main him.
DHIL or Boothil should easily replace Kafka and Blackswan. Or if not them then at least Robin, or even Topaz is better.
Disagree with Yunli being good in Apoc Shadow. The gamemode is all about breaking enemies to increase the damage they take. However, broken enemies don't attack, which makes counterattacked like Clara almost unusable. For the current one, the current buffs are suited to Yunli, so she can get away with using the weaker Intuit: Slash. However, it will be hard to say that she'll still be good the next rotation of this gamemode.
Well we’ve yet to have an AS enemy lineup without Physical Weakness so we’ll have to wait to see where that goes.
I kinda agree with the other person saying to wait and see for a lineup without phys weakness, but I do want to say that unlike Clara who can't get any damage out of her counters/ult at all that it's not hard to sneak in an Intuit: Cull while they're weakness broken either by just ulting twice after break or by deliberately triggering a Slash before breaking. Depending on the team, it's not unrealistic to be able to squeeze in more than one Intuit: Cull either (especially if the current AS refills ult, since that'll give her two "charges" immediately).
This aged horribly I’m not gonna lie to you
I think sparkle is the only character I disagree with, sparkle is a great unit don’t get me wrong, but robin can do the same things she can but better for more meta teams. Sparkle really only works in hypercarry and I’m gonna be honest she is only +1 skill point every 3 turns because she HAS to skill every turn to do her job so her skill point niche is kind’ve fake and misleading.
With the meta shifting away from just hypercarry and more focused around duo carry/ dot/ break, there’s less reason to pull on a unit like sparkle especially when bronya can do very similar things already. I get sparkle in a way is a direct upgrade to bronya but it’s just not a valuable investment when hypercarry isn’t as viable as it used to be
II’m surprised you mentioned Yunli and feel like I should agree.
The main weakness Yunli has is that she needs to be hit and despite being the destruction character, she barely gets targeted without her signature LC. Energy regeneration is a slight problem as she has Tingyun to regenerate energy for her and every time she gets hit she gains 15 energy along with the normal energy gained from being hit and the counter that comes after. But as I said she needs to be hit for that to happen. Luckily Lynx is available so it should help a bit with that.
Before I got her LC my yunli got hit pretty often.. and energy was never a problem with robin huohuo and tingyun
Lynx is your best friend if you don't have her LC
Yunli is basically jack of all trade in hsr end game contents
you already made this video like 7 times
Yunli is so underrated she’s the only character that changed my account drastically. I love her glad I pulled last minute.
I’m pretty new, but I pulled Himeko on my first 16 pulls. It made me so happy. So far she is my only 5 star. I should get another in about 30 more pulls since I’m going for Rappa right now. If I don’t get her on soft pitty I should at least get another 5 star. I’m not sure I’ll be able to continue through hard pitty if I’m that unlucky. I have a work life and other things. I am also not really wanting to waste tons of money on just one game. While I really want Rappa, I’m set on staying F2P until I know I LOVE the game. Definitely liking the game, but my obsession is starting to wane a bit. We will see if I’m still a fan in a few months or years. If I am still a fan. I might whale a little bit for characters I really want/need to get a solid party.
Himeko's one of the reasons I started playing Star Rail and it frustrates me that I still don't have her. Meanwhile, I've gotten 2 copies of Bailu and Yanqing, 2 characters I'll never build.
Ruan Mei's one of my favorite characters alongside the DoT mommies. She's also the first time I got 2 copies in the same 10-pull so I have a lot of love for her. It's awesome that she has a lot of utility in any team comp.
I think Harmony Trailblazer is the best HOYO MC so far. I think they're also one of the best in gacha gaming, but so far I'm partial to WuWa's Rover. Especially the Havoc version, which I think is a top-tier DPS in the game. One of the few times I've seen where the MC actually lives up to their status as a legendary character. It also helps that his leveling materials are just handed to you so he'll be one of the first characters you max level in the game.
Tbh robin is better than ruan mei in my opinion since action advance in moc and pf is really needed bc of the limited cycles as well as having amazing fua synergy which pretty much every character nowdays has one while ruan mei is great her bis break team cant fully use her kit since her massive dmg% is wasted and in dot she isnt the peak support and in that team robin alows the team to save a cycle bc of action advance👍
I haven’t seen many opinions in either direction for Yunli but don’t underestimate her. Clara was already believed to be the highest ceiling DPS for a long time, her flaw was inconsistency/circumstantiality. Yunli solves those issues while doing more with blast counters and a perfect taunt on ult
My team firefly break team will always carry me. But for support I feel Ruan Mei is definitely one of the best overall supports.
bronya as a boss (normal or complete) cleanses all debuffs with one of her abilities
other that that, there arent any enemies that can cleanse themselves/others
I like going into these types of videos with my own predictions to compare my knowledge and experience with Mr RUclipsr
difference being that I have more peculiar opinions about a character's value :p
My personal top 10 in order:
1. Robin
2. Acheron
3. Aventurine
4. Ruan Mei
5. Boothill
6. Firefly
7. Fu Xuan
8. HuoHuo
9. Yunli
10. Kafka
gallagher: *insanely sp positive, can solo sustain in all content, best abuser of quid pro quo and multiplication, debuffs, does damage*
vars: yeaaah lets put yunli up there!
Gallagher will remain relevant despite the supposed "power creep" coming because he's so SP+, which is big for Boothill because he's very SP-.
Mentioning Yunli instead of Kafka and BS and even sparkle is genuinely insane I’m not gonna lie you to you. At least yunli has the highest average cycle clears any of the dps while sparkle niche is falling off so is Kafka and BS
@@fr3941 loud and wrong
@@daichi1069 I wish I was lmao. Kafka and BS fell off everyone knows this the hypercarry niche is being fulfilled by Robin
@@fr3941 gallagher better than all 3 of them
I love Yunli’s gameplay so much that I had to put aside my astronomical hate of her personality because she is that much fun to play. I have skipped a lot of strong af characters just because I dont like one aspect of them (Firefly, Sparkle, Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei, Seele, all skipped) but I had to swallow my pride and get Yunli despite my hate, counters and parries feel right at home for me.
No limited erudition and hunt in the list huh. Not surprised at all
"[Himeko] is not someone you should go out of your way for," yeah well I already did... and I'd do it again.
Glad she's finally getting some recognition.
Glad to see Yunli up there, mine hits so damn hard I was gonna throw hands if you forgot about her LMAO
tbh i disagree on ruan mei a lot. ever since robin she lost a ton of her value, she isn't best in slot for any meta team besides break anymore. robin and JQ can do just as well or better in dot, hypercarry never wanted her to begin with. The robin + gallagher combo is so good you have people running e0 acheron with it and 0 cycling. As someone who doesnt play break i didn't even bother picking her up, wouldn't know where to play her either. The only dps i have that would remotely want her is jingliu and she can just use robin + gallagher + bronya for infinite turns instead.
Yunli really is very strong in every mode. I pulled her just because I like sword characters but she actually can full clear any content in the game easily
As soon as I saw the title of this video, I thought 'Acheron, Firefly, Ruan Mei, Robin, Sparkle, Pela, Kafka, Fu Xuan, Boothill, Black Swan'
Let's see how many I get right..
Yunli definitely has a spot up in top 10 mine has been very useful clearing content hitting 250k+ enhanced counters
I'm surprised you put himeko instead of jade given how jade is just straight up better. Being more universal and also replacing himeko in her best team.
Himeko is technically free for everybody, considering losing 50 50 or standard selector. So better for f2p
I must mention one if the biggest reasons why Gallagher is so good, is that hes an insanely good SP battery aswell, i rarely ever see people mention that aspect of him. (he can also ulitlies Multiplication And Quid pro Quo, some of the best abundance LCs)
Ik this vid was way before much of Lingsha was known publically, But the reason Lingsha doesnt 100% replace Gallagher, is cause she is not SP positive and is High SP usage teams itll be difficult to use her (She still has better healing and damage tho)
Another Point, Boothill does perfectly fine without HMC, His best team (Sustained) is BH, Bronya, Ruan Mei and Gallagher
Ofc In a sustainless team you can replace Gallagher with HMC
(do hope someday we'll get a character thats a mix between Bronya and HMC tho, cause that 100% advance is too valuable to pass up)
I started with 2.0 and I regret nor having kafka , I would want play dot but i dont have any . Next patch will be super fun 🤩 because I will pull for kafka and bs . Wish me luck
Me, whom felt burned by Black Swan getting passed up for Sparkle's rerun, seeing her -- the last character on my rerun shortlist -- on a new type of banner (with a new pity count...) alongside Feixiao. Good thing I've basically had tickets to burn, and did so "risking" for Jiaoqiu to get Guinaifen to E4...only to find she'll be running alongside Moze (obligatory target for my four-star collection) and Lingsha (with my current preferred main team being "IPC"...). Ugh, this is gonna be a heckuva patch to chase for.
its not new pity count tho
Where's Topaz &numby for the sole reason of finding chests
Decided to draw some parallels with Genshin:
10-Ruan Mei/Furina/Best universal buffer
9-Aventurine/Zhongli/Best tank
8-Acheron/Neuvillette/Best braindead DPS
7-Huo Huo/Kokomi/Best healer
6-Sparkle/Bennet
5-Firefly/Nilou/Best niche DPS
4-HMC/Xiangling/Best F2P character
3-Robin/Kazuha
2-Kafka and Black Swan/ Nahida and Kuki/Best drivers
1-Yun Lin/Arlecchino
It’s hell having ruan mei and losing on robin and jiaoqiu banners. Like freaky friday for just one item
Kick Kafka/BS and let Boothill in, and this list is Chef's Kiss.
let's be fr this list is full of lukewarm takes and not having bronya or tingyun and putting gallagher there bc oooh oooh powercreep is crazy bc who doesnt get powercreeped 😭
@@baluttery vars is known for his takes that's for sure. Just ask genshin and LoL community lmao.
Bias over two exclusive limited 5 star against one is onething. Knowing kafka bs rm huohuo is just worse than boothill rm bronya aven/gallagher in moc and apoc is another. Not to mention, albeit boothill has no place in pure fiction, kafka bs is just underperforming than any other better and less costly alternative. It's just a bias over the strongest pair in dot archetype.
The tragedy of being a single target dps
Not having jiaoqiu in this list is criminal. By far the best debuffer on the game, can contribute with his own damage that is actually good cause of his err conversion to atk, is amazing for dps who depend on their burst for damage, but offers amazing debuffs to all the enemis in the field with 100% uptim and persists trough all waves. Easily one of my best pulls in the game, I dont get why people are sleeping on him
I will have it hard as a dolphin in 2.5. I have nearly 90 pulls ready and get another something like 90 from from buying the biggest pakage for double value. What I want is Feixiao, her weapon and Robin. Until now I got shafted on HuoHuo und Yunli und Jiaqiao was the only one I won the 50/50 after 75 pulls und I needed always a minimum of 75 for 5*. I hope so much that I win 50/50 at Feixiao.
Glad to hear the Harmony Trailblazer praise!!!
They genuinely deserve to be praised so much! Caelus and Stelle have been nothing but the BEST!!
Hsr best game fr! Harmony trailblazer is such a gem of a support character
When you were about to go down to the comments to complain about Ruan Mei’s and Acheron’s placement, but then remembered that they aren’t ranked
I know everyone says Ruan Mei is a fantastic support, but I hate her too much to pull lmao (same goes for Sparkle). Love seeing Aventurine on this list because he is just AMAZING. No one compares to his shield.
Boothill not being on the list is why I dont like the Hsr community. Kafka and black swan are here but dot is literally drowning meanwhile boothill can 500k with rainbow relics and a low grade lightcone. Like are yall foreal? Firefly literally falls apart without harmony mc while boothill continues to nuke. I do own both on my account.
Harmony Trailblazer is my favorite character in HSR due to his incredible versatility and potency in various contents. In my opinion, he is much better than Ruan Mei for break teams because his super break buff, break effect buffs, and damage is much stronger than Ruan Mei. Harmony trailblazer with Robin and Ruan Mei is extremely powerful since HTB’s skill multiplier is approximately 370% at E6 and trace level 12 making it very powerful with the necessary attack.
5:02 i think you put e4 n e6 instead of a4 n a6 for Aventurine LOL
Owning almost all of these characters -
Finally some Yunli glaze. There was so much doomposting with her and jiaoqiu this patch.
the fact that when I stopped playing Dan Heng (dragon) was anout the best DPS in the game and now the doesn't even show up here is really not motivating me to pick up the game again
Unfortunately, Star Rail meta has really shifted away from hypercarry as a team comp, even with Sparkle's release. Due not being AoE and his skill point necessity, he's bad in PF where hypercarry (AoE specifically) will see the most use. FuA with Ratio is a stronger team than DHIL hypercarry in MoC, and break is argubably the king of meta rn. The only hypercarry team outside of PF that's meta is Acheron and that's it.
11:38 "When you're winning... everybody just says 'wow, he is the best... you're the best man!!'
...But remember...You're Just The Gacha Mc"
-Fugue
Who should i pair My Himeko and Gallagher with? I just started playing and pulled both of them of loosing fifty fifty
(Also who should i spent My guaranteed on?)
Harmony MC and preferably Ruan Mei. But since Ruan Mei likely won't return anytime soon go for Fugue
Clara just love me so much that i have her at e4 that skipping yunli is ok just to save for our next general