Hey Steve, I'm literally converting Thorgrim into a King on Shieldbearers. Just build the model without the long 'carry handles' that the thronebearers usually hold. Have them holding up the throne itself, much more compact and fits neatly on a 50mm base. If you have an email or some method I can show you an image I would be happy to
P. 100: Models with more than one such special rule may choose their formation during deployment, and may change it and adopt a different formation by reforming during the game.
This was a fairly boring game but it highlights the dwarves need for more firepower. Thank you for showing how easily it is to avoid Dwarven infantry blocks.
I mean, it’s not like we don’t know this already. The point of dwarfs is a strong firing line to draw the enemy in, and small bricks of Infantry to eat them up. Steve doesn’t use meta lists, ever. Dwarfs are incredibly tough when played correctly, which is why they have won 3GT’s in the last two months, one with a hundred players. If Steve had drakes and thunderers with a gun thane and cannons supported by armored infantry, he would have done much better. Also, 6 copters with clatter guns would be prime. I’m playing a 2500 point RTT in August, and that level is where Dwarfs really shine. At 1500-2000 they don’t get quite enough points to cover all their bases. Thankfully the community seems to be moving on from 2000 points, at least all the tournaments I’m registered in for the next 3 months. They are all 2400 and 2500. The games biggest problem at launch was armies just being too small. This game doesn’t play well below 2000 points.
@Stonehorn i agree with the first half and disagree with the 2nd. Even at 1500 dwarves are still pretty ridiculous if you build the list correctly for the way you are playing them.
Perfect battle report as always , but iI have a friendly question , why bother with the OGs, and not bring 10 drakes with torpedoes and bombs that cannot be delt more than 1 wound (unless flanked) by the cannons , cannot misfire and are a cannon/organ hybrid with higher percentage of actually killing something..
i think Ogres played this perfectly tactically... running head first into thise Dwarf lines would have been suicide. similarly why didnt those dwarves flank left? the dwarves strongest blocks needed to get some kills. anyway thanks for taking the time. was great
Tune in to see an awesome battle of dwarfs punching up and ogres stepping on things... Get a battle of dwarfs jogging and ogres stepping back. LUKAH WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?
Definitely not exciting but the correct choice given the Dwarfs didn't have enough shooting to force the Ogres to close, and the two scary Dwarf combat blocks could never catch backpedaling Ogres
Engineer redirected the Thundertusk for some reason. The TT should have moved straight forward to contact the Engineer, enabling an overrun into the Organ Gun.
Totally agree, but it appeared as if the TT was facing the Organ Gun at the end of its move. If so, it should still have been facing the OG after moving straight forward to charge the E. The E would rank up against the TT. To me, it appeared as if the TT either wheeled to charge the E, or closed the door to the E, neither of which is allowed. But if the TT was not facing the OG, then I stand corrected.
The rule doesn't state centre to centre. "...it must endeavour to move as directly as possible into contact with the closest visible model in the target unit." As long as you can contact the closest visible model, that's all that's required. If it had to be centre to centre, then a 10-wide unit would never be able to charge a single model on foot located exactly one inch in front of the unit on the far right or left side. You'd never be able to wheel enough to ever bring your center to touch the single model. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just trying to understand another player's interpretation of a rule. Either way, good game, and thanks for the bat rep!
@@deanharing4236 and that is a clearly defined term, with rules on page 92. And yes a unit that is 10 wide must bring its centre most model in base contact, if it CAN.
Think you allocated the hits not correctly: P. 209: Ifthere are fewer than five rank and file models in the unit, the controlling player must first allocate hits to the unit until one hit has been allocated to each model it contains. Any remaining hits are divided as equally as possible between the character(s) and the unit.
Skirmish is a formation. You need to reform. How do you not know that? Adopting & Changing Formation Unusual FormationsTable of Contents Last update: 2024 February 01 Rulebook, p. 182 All units must adopt a formation. As mentioned previously, the type(s) of formation a unit can adopt are indicated by a special rule of the same name as the formation type. Models with more than one such special rule may choose their formation during deployment, and may change it and adopt a different formation by reforming during the game.
I wish this channel behaved more like adults. Example Luka's obscene hat. Wish there were adult professional serious battle reports. Would have enjoyed this conflict it was played by serious minded players.
Hey Steve, I'm literally converting Thorgrim into a King on Shieldbearers. Just build the model without the long 'carry handles' that the thronebearers usually hold. Have them holding up the throne itself, much more compact and fits neatly on a 50mm base.
If you have an email or some method I can show you an image I would be happy to
Luka slowly becoming an Ogre main. Sooooooooooonnnn.
Edit after the game. Nevermind, Luka doesn't DESERVE to be an Ogre main after that cowardly game.
P. 100:
Models with more than one such special rule may choose their formation during deployment, and may change it and adopt a different formation by reforming during the game.
This was a fairly boring game but it highlights the dwarves need for more firepower. Thank you for showing how easily it is to avoid Dwarven infantry blocks.
I mean, it’s not like we don’t know this already. The point of dwarfs is a strong firing line to draw the enemy in, and small bricks of Infantry to eat them up. Steve doesn’t use meta lists, ever. Dwarfs are incredibly tough when played correctly, which is why they have won 3GT’s in the last two months, one with a hundred players.
If Steve had drakes and thunderers with a gun thane and cannons supported by armored infantry, he would have done much better.
Also, 6 copters with clatter guns would be prime.
I’m playing a 2500 point RTT in August, and that level is where Dwarfs really shine. At 1500-2000 they don’t get quite enough points to cover all their bases. Thankfully the community seems to be moving on from 2000 points, at least all the tournaments I’m registered in for the next 3 months. They are all 2400 and 2500. The games biggest problem at launch was armies just being too small. This game doesn’t play well below 2000 points.
@Stonehorn i agree with the first half and disagree with the 2nd. Even at 1500 dwarves are still pretty ridiculous if you build the list correctly for the way you are playing them.
Asking the dwarf player "do you have any charges you want to declare?" on turn 2 is madness
Perfect battle report as always , but iI have a friendly question , why bother with the OGs, and not bring 10 drakes with torpedoes and bombs that cannot be delt more than 1 wound (unless flanked) by the cannons , cannot misfire and are a cannon/organ hybrid with higher percentage of actually killing something..
And they can stand & shoot too!!! 👍🏻
i think Ogres played this perfectly tactically... running head first into thise Dwarf lines would have been suicide. similarly why didnt those dwarves flank left? the dwarves strongest blocks needed to get some kills. anyway thanks for taking the time. was great
I'm here for Lukas villain arc, he finally realised what he had to do to for that winning streak😂
I'm a simple man, I see Ogres, I updoot.
Clatter gun is a strenght 4. Tyrant is T5. Why was the dwarf player wounding Tyrant on 6´???
Haha great game guys, funny change of pace. Good to see um "alternate strategies" in play
Tune in to see an awesome battle of dwarfs punching up and ogres stepping on things...
Get a battle of dwarfs jogging and ogres stepping back. LUKAH WHYYYYYYYYYYYY?
Definitely not exciting but the correct choice given the Dwarfs didn't have enough shooting to force the Ogres to close, and the two scary Dwarf combat blocks could never catch backpedaling Ogres
No guys...next time take a film and popcorn and avoid a match like this. 😅
Engineer redirected the Thundertusk for some reason. The TT should have moved straight forward to contact the Engineer, enabling an overrun into the Organ Gun.
@@deanharing4236 nope. The Engineer is a character, so it moves like a skirmisher, you have to charge it as if it’s a skirmisher
Totally agree, but it appeared as if the TT was facing the Organ Gun at the end of its move. If so, it should still have been facing the OG after moving straight forward to charge the E. The E would rank up against the TT.
To me, it appeared as if the TT either wheeled to charge the E, or closed the door to the E, neither of which is allowed.
But if the TT was not facing the OG, then I stand corrected.
@@deanharing4236 it wheeled, because it must. you have to wheel your centre to the centre of the closest skirmisher you charge.
The rule doesn't state centre to centre.
"...it must endeavour to move as directly as possible into contact with the closest visible model in the target unit."
As long as you can contact the closest visible model, that's all that's required.
If it had to be centre to centre, then a 10-wide unit would never be able to charge a single model on foot located exactly one inch in front of the unit on the far right or left side. You'd never be able to wheel enough to ever bring your center to touch the single model.
I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just trying to understand another player's interpretation of a rule.
Either way, good game, and thanks for the bat rep!
@@deanharing4236 and that is a clearly defined term, with rules on page 92.
And yes a unit that is 10 wide must bring its centre most model in base contact, if it CAN.
No Vanguard for the Gyros?
Someone else noticed. thx
Greatweapons and shields on the longbeareds? Is that legit
Yes, the shields count only against shooting or if they use hand weapons
Firebellies dont have access to the greatmaw spells.
He didnt cast any great maw spells.
@@MountainMiniatures 5 Mins in he replaces his spell with Maw regeneration spell then cast troll guts 10mins in. Those are only available to butchers.
@@julienlesage-c6m no what i mean is nothing of consequence was cast, he caught it right away dude
@@MountainMiniatures sounds good
Think you allocated the hits not correctly:
P. 209:
Ifthere are fewer than five rank and file models in the unit, the controlling player must first allocate hits to the unit until one hit has been allocated to each model it contains. Any remaining hits are divided as equally as possible between the character(s) and the unit.
why even play a game if you're not going to fight?
this whole thing was game. fighting is only one small part of the over all game
What ever happened to Collin?
Arillery Mishap.
He started his own business
@@Yurt_enthusiast7 ohh I didn't know that, thanks. Is it another channel or something totally separate?
@killroy8976 if I remember correctly he becsme a painting contractor
man the way this dude plays ogres is unwatchable, just such a coward
Skirmish is a formation. You need to reform. How do you not know that? Adopting & Changing Formation
Unusual FormationsTable of Contents
Last update: 2024 February 01
Rulebook, p. 182
All units must adopt a formation. As mentioned previously, the type(s) of formation a unit can adopt are indicated by a special rule of the same name as the formation type. Models with more than one such special rule may choose their formation during deployment, and may change it and adopt a different formation by reforming during the game.
yo dude it was a brain fart, you couldnt tell we where joking about it right after it was pointed out?
Clatterguns are trash.
@@shockerck4465 false.
No they're clattery
Why the shit emoji hat ?
I wish this channel behaved more like adults. Example Luka's obscene hat.
Wish there were adult professional serious battle reports.
Would have enjoyed this conflict it was played by serious minded players.
you need to relax
@@CharlesCranford-y9k take off buddy. Make your own channel and act anyway you want.
They present a battle of fantasy miniatures , which is here for us to relax and play, they do not cover the war in Gaza Strip mate!!