I disagree about the Paxton storyline. Him going back to high school and that being embarrassing was the point. It was fun to see the writers explore the peaked-in-high-school trope and I think it fit well with the overall “college isn’t what you expect” theme of the season
Also, the show focuses pretty heavily on Devi. If you're not in her orbit you stop existing, so moving focus to Paxton while he's in college would feel deeply weird.
yeah I agree, I felt it was in his character because of the peaked-in-high-school trope that he carries out. it would make sense for someone who thinks that his place is his high school, to drop out to go back (if that makes sense). plus he decided to go back to ASU to get a degree in teaching so that he could potentially become a swim coach (I believe).
Exactly, he’s so rich his dad could probably open a whole new lawyer society just to give his son an internship. But honestly, I love that, like if you can, why not? He and his das are both very hardworking so they deserve to have a nice career and be rich , Ben doesn’t take money for granted just cause his dad is rich, he want to make his dad proud and I love that
The funny thing about Paxton/Lindsay ship was that character-wise you'd feel he's too young for her and appearance-wise he looks older than her. It gave me cognitive dissonance.
It was weird putting them together bc the whole time I was thinking “I know what they’re gonna do & that would be gross inside the show’s universe bc wtf”!
That substitute teacher was treating Paxton like he was grown. She was so disappointed that he was throwing that party with teenagers as if he wasn’t a teenager himself.
Because he was 1. Not in hs anymore 2. A teacher now Like, it was weird and wrong of him. He needed someone to not baby him and show him he needed to now have a different mindset if he was gonna help at the school he went to. Simple.
@@j.m251 Paxton was only out of highschool for at least 3 months. He wasn’t in college long enough to even get any type of degree or certification to become a teacher. The substitute I believe her name was Ms. Thompson should not have been disappointed or shocked at his behavior. In fact she’s the creepier one for dating him.
@@j.m251 he wasn't grown like she was. he was months out of hs, barely went to college and was 19 and working at a school where his friends still attended. she was acting like he was her age and a real teacher partying w his kids he only knows as students.
Ethan could have been a really good opportunity for Devi to question any prejudice she might have against people who don’t care about school / have different backgrounds. School and ivy leagues aren’t an obsession for everyone, especially those who have other stuff they’re dealing with or have parents who didn’t go to college. I agree that they should have given him a backstory or not included him at all.. it didn’t sit well with me that it was just like, “oh he’s a dirtbag, he’ll drag you down” and then he disappeared 🤣 but I get why a lot of people aren’t that attached to him, I just really liked how sweet he was and felt kinda bad for him when he got dumped LOL
Personally I feel like with only 10 episodes of 30 minutes to wrap up so many storylines with proper closure, the show did a pretty good job. It's understandable why some characters like Kamala, Aneesa and Ethan were given very little screen time even though it did disappoint a bit . IMO, almost all the storylines that did get included felt necessary, were potrayed well and didn't feel rushed. Although, Paxton's storyline definitely seemed forced and could've been done better.
I totally agree with Kamala and Aneesa having such minor roles and how disappointing that is. especially cuz Aneesa's hair is so pretty in this season but it also just feels like a major disservice to their characters as they've gone through so much these past few seasons and having them ignore that just limit them to background characters o extremely minor arcs that go against their whole personalities was really sad for me. I still liked the season and am more than satisfied with this ending :)
I loved the way they took Paxton's storyline. It's a lot more relatable than ever. A lot of students develop a persona in high school, and they get attached to all the perks. Stepping out of your comfort zone is difficult and he could not handle it, which I believe meshes well with character traits shown of him before (when he chose new girl after Devi because it was "easy")
Addition: As for Devi lying about getting in, we have to remember the argument Mohan and Nalini had about Devi. Devi always felt like she was a burden and problematic particularly for her mother. Also, that ramble the mother had about moving from India and how she felt about it. Devi never liked the idea of making her mom feel like she was right to be disappointed in her.
I feel like a lot of characters disappeared/faded to the background (Manish, Fabiola's girlfriend and especially Aneesa). It's not a dealbreaker because of course I'd prefer the focus to be on the major characters, but it also impacts the storylines (or lack thereof) of some of the other characters such as Kamala: I actually forgot she was in a relationship with Manish until the last episode! I almost wish they had not brought new characters like Margot, Ethan or Lindsay onto the show since they didn't do much with those characters and the show could have spent that time on other characters that were already established instead. Lindsay especially felt like a wasted character: I almost feel like she was created so Paxton wouldn't end up alone; there's not really much else to her. But I'm very happy with where most of the main characters ended up, especially Paxton, who I feel had the most character development over the course of the series except for Devi.
@@lamelya Margot is new relative to the main cast. She shows up at the back end of season 3 and I honestly do not care one bit about her. Maybe other fans feel differently, but not much was done to make her feel like a multi-dimensional character akin to Ben, Paxton, or even Aneesa.
@@crystallewis5902 I agree with you as far as Margot being relatively new because of when she started. I was thinking more on the line of when her character was introduced compared to, for example, Ethan. I saw it as a character that was introduced in a way of what her interests were, and why they had her and Ben get together. Plus it helped to introduce her father.
I really resonated with Paxton’s story. After high school I ended up going to work at my high school. It was hard to separate my old friends who were still in school and act professional. It did feel weird, but I knew college wasn’t for me so I stuck to what I knew. So I feel like thats maybe where he was at, unsure and scared so he just came back home to hold onto what he had.
I loved this season but in all honesty I was super disappointed with the lack of focus Kamala and Aneesa got! They’re my two favorite characters and they didn’t get much to do and it was sad, though with Aneesa I heard her actress was acting in another project so I understand why she couldn’t do much but I wish they gave Kamala more to do with her career but I did love the moments she had at the end of the season with Devi and she’s like a big sister to her! Another thing I loved was how they gave Fabiola and Eleanor more focus on their passions with Robotics and Acting and I just love seeing characters that have fleshed out interests that tie into their goals, I wish Devi and Ben got that same treatment too though (I think they both wanna get into the Law field but that wasn’t really fleshed out too much)! I especially loved how Fabiola chose going to Howard because of her want to make the field more inclusive that was super cool to see! Her character was honestly the highlight of the season for me! :D 💖
They honestly should have just made the season longer. So we could have a more complete ending for all the characters. Like for Ethan, Aneesa, Kamala, Lindsay, and Ben. Honestly the show reels in characters, uses them up, and then drops them. It isn’t fair. Especially for Ethan, all they told us was that he’s a bad boy and that’s it. They both thought each other was hot, got together, Devi has a wake up call and realizes he’s a bad person, and drops him like a hot potato. AND HE LOOKED HEART BROKEN. They didn’t even show him after the break up (and it rly didn’t seem to bother Devi). They should have known that if they want to add in new characters, they shouldn’t just “introduce them as side characters”. They are all people with their own stories. And yes I agree with how the Lindsey and Paxton relationship was odd. Cute but odd. Like realistically she would not be with a 19 year old. It could have worked out if Paxton asks her out but she declines. That would have been interesting to see. Anyways those are my thoughts lol.
With Paxton and Lindsay to me it just felt weird and awkward. It felt like the writers were just like “okay let’s do a few scenes of Paxton talking to the only other young teacher who happens to be a woman and then they can date” because maybe they thought it was an easy option where Paxton wouldn’t have ended up alone. I felt like their relationship decision was kinda rushed for the writers even though I know they did have to tie loose ends up quickly bc it was the last season of the show. But personally I would have preferred for Paxton be on his own and doing his own thing and finding himself. Whether that meant going back to college or training to become a swim coach. I feel like it would have made more sense for Paxton character - because all through high school he has been this legend and the ultimate cool guy for 4 years - and now that’s his personality. So I think it would have been good character development for Paxton go out and see the world and have that as his ending instead of ending up with Lindsay, it just felt wrong to see him with someone who tbh didn’t fit his personality at all.
I wasn’t really feeling Ben and Margot at all. That relationship just made me salty. As far as Devi and Ethan I feel like Ethan had potential to learn from his mistakes and continue his relationship with Devi. Ethan gave ride or die vibes. Paxton and the substitute teacher was kinda cringe 😅
In my opinion they did well with what they had. I don't know if anyone have seen some of their interviews for when season 3 came out. During that time it was mentioned that they have already filmed season 4. The way I see that is some of the actors probably couldn't be there fully because of other projects they had going on at the same time as season 4 was being filmed. I would say that was probably the case for the person who plays Aneesa and the person who plays Manish (and probably Ethan as well). I think this season was all about them growing up. Also, them finally realizing what they wanted and needed was right in front them but they needed a little "trauma" to get there. I feel like them putting Devi and Ben together at the end was the game plan from the beginning. I think they wanted to show that their relationship was definitely a love relationship from the beginning and Paxton was the guy to help them see that without him knowing that he was helping. Paxton being there was almost like a confidence booster when it came to self-worth for Devi and also for himself. So, again in my opinion I feel like they did pretty good with what they had. Also, their majors were discussed in the past for the most part, or at least their interests were, so that is probably why they didn't want to mention it too much. But, I do agree with how Ben got an internship with a law firm so quick. The only reason why I think he got that was because his father's connection and probably pulled some strings for him. I do wish they could have showed his parents at least once in this last season.
I think Ben got that internship because his dad is a big-name lawyer - he probably pulled some strings. And Paxton, I feel like it would be hard to tie Paxton into the story if he was working or doing something outside of the school into. Same reaction when Paxton and Devi kissed!!!
From what I read on some people's post, she had another project going at the time and couldn't hardly be there. So, I didn't think they "dropped" her intentionally.
ikr!! it wouldve been interesting if they had aneesa in margot's place instead of adding her character. i get nalini "needed" a problematic love interest but that easily couldve been added separately.
I like Season 4 though there were some areas of the storyline I had question about. I didn't like how Ethan just disappear after four episodes for no reason. I also agreed that Kamala and Aneesa were not given a lot of screen time but I heard that Megan Suri who play Aneesa had another project going on so I think that's why she wasn't given that much screen time this season. Paxton's storyline was interesting. He went to college, drop out and came back to the school as a swimming teacher. His character wasn't the same from the previous three seasons and also him being in a relationship with that teacher in the end seem forced. There were also some good moments. I love how Nalini found new love after going through such a tough loss of losing Mohan and knowing it was time to move on which wasn't easy for her. I like how Nirmala found love which is cute. Most of all, I like how they ended off Devi's story with her going to her dream college and being in Ben. Although some disagree, I feel Ben was the right one considering he was always there for her despite all time he was bullying her but eventually became friends to lovers. I just love on how in the end, all the characters ended having a good ending where they started from the beginning to end. This series made a great impact on everyone with valuable lessons and I'm sad it's done but it was a good run.
YEAHHHH i felt like paxton going back to high school was humiliatingggg and even the show acknowledged how embarrassing it was! I know it was written that way to get his character back at sherman oaks w the rest of the cast but I feel like they should've just let him explore himself at asu for a couple scenes each episode or something... really liked his personal growth otherwise tho.
Shes the first female queer muslim indian character, they could have explored her culture and the conflict between Hindus and muslims and the impact it could have on their friendship. They could have used her to show what Diwali looks like for Indian muslims who celebrate it as well despite it having nothing to due with their faith and Devi spending time with her and doing the Iftar, eid and Ramadan with her. It could have been so great but it wasn't which is such a shame.
Honestly Mindy dropped the damn ball with this season. She chose Ben in the end which, I like Ben but Mindy put Ethan as a distraction and didn’t even try to develop him. She did that with Des and just made him a mommas boy. Then with Paxton she made him unattainable by turning him into a teacher and picked Ben….it’s just what she does…
I’ve noticed she does that a lot w her shows (mostly the ones I’ve watched, NHIE and SLOCG). The black or brown girl w a yt guy. It’s basically Mindy projecting her life on to her shows..
@@beebeevids6851 yeah it’s weird and it feels like she’s trying to justify her own relationship. Which she doesn’t need to because it’s her love life. But the way she undercuts more suitable men for the pardon my language basic white boy saviour in all her shows is grating. Because honestly I would’ve preferred Devi with Des not just because he is Indian but because he’s Paxton and Ben combined but she purposely ruined the character when she saw his popularity because she desperately wants the vicarious shipping of Ben. Then she ruined Paxton who was also a fan favourite by making him a teacher. Trying to make it seem that it’s better that they’re friends when he was Devis miracle and the reason she walked again her line of “by being the dream” is what clenched it for me. But no it had to be Ben which yeah the nerdy guy and girl thing is cute but they don’t make sense because of the amount of issues they have TOGETHER. It kinda made the show in my opinion go out with a fizzle. Sorry this turned into a rant 😭😂
@@HelloAwesome94 Literally! I honestly wanted Devi in a relationship w herself! I liked that her and Paxton were just friends by the end of the show but to have her end up w Ben… it’s just an on going cycle of Mindy Kaling shows that I do not like! Plus her cheating on both of them (I think she cheated on Ben w Paxton and vice versa) just makes her seem real indecisive. Then her “relationship” w Ethan was only for 3 episodes then he disappeared like where’d he go? She got what she wanted, learned from it and he’s just written off. Nice
@@beebeevids6851 fair and honestly I would’ve preferred either Des if Mindy had fleshed him out more. Or for Devi to keep going with therapy because being indecisive in youth is normal but what she did and how she went about it was indicative of something. So dr.Ryan helping her be at peace with Devi wouldve been great but the whole point of the show was love triangles and teenage shenanigan’s.
@@HelloAwesome94 Fr, I like Ben as a character (and I would’ve loved Ben and Devi more if they didn’t drag out the will they won’t they past s2) but the other thing that I feel like a lot of ppl don’t realize the issue for ppl who don’t like the Benvi ship is how it correlates to 4 other shows Mindy’s produced/wrote for where the Indian main girl character ends up with the nerdy (kinda toxic at times) white guy. Like yes they’re cute, I’m not disagreeing, but every other love interest she’s had has been discounted by some weird issue or in Paxton’s case,where the chemistry was still there and he’s a major character, made it out to be an ick almost by giving the power imbalance with him being a teacher even though they were literally dating a year ago. (I understand that another reason the love interests didn’t stay around is because highschool relationships don’t really last long) Sorry for the rant, I still love the show despite that because Devi is a great MC and her relationship with her family is beautiful to me.
Ethan literally just left after the last scene he was in with Devi… like what happened?!? I wish he could have had a come back and be a better person or something.
Okay, I love Ben, but the guy was a nepo baby. I wasn't shocked by the internship, specially because it could be more just to understand the environment. It could easily be arranged I think Kamala wanted opportunities so much that she was afraid to fail I think Trent just realized he prioritizes relationships, not career and so is the case of many many people
i personally am gonna miss this show i do like how it ended but i’d selfishly love to see a college spinoff (we need more college shows and this is one of the most diverse shows out rn)
I didn't think this season was terrible but it was definitely one of my least favorites. First off, they just completely discarded SO many characters (rebecca, manish, aneesa, and ethan after they broke up). But on top of that I feel like a lot of the characters did a ton of stuff that either didn't really make sense for their character or just had no purpose. Like that random part where trent told ben to stop doing work now that he got into college and he just listened?? Also fabiola and eleanor being so mad at devi the first few seasons for her lying but then lying to her face the entire last season (fabiola not telling devi she applied to or got into princeton and eleanor keeping it a secret that she was graduating early). Also, kind of confused on how she did graduate early like she was in quite a few required core classes that she never finished. It felt kind of useless like why not just wait till graduation and then do that? Also don't even get me started on paxton this season. Making paxton a teacher at devi's school and then having them kiss (on school grounds which is even worse) just made the ship seem gross. I also was very confused about the college situation devi got herself into, she spent all of her life hyperfocused on college so her of all people should've known to apply to safe schools.
I understand not applying to safety schools because shes always been depicted as really confident in her academic abilities and she felt like she wouldn’t need them
It was annoying to me that they never said what Devi wanted to study. Ben's dad is a lawyer and he hooked him up with the intership at the end of the season. I always just assumed he would be studying law because of his dad... Aneesa-wise, I think Megan Suri was just busy with another project...?
paxton going back to school for teaching honestly makes sense with him being a good swim coach bc idk about yalls high school but mine made 98% of coaches teach a class, even if they just wanted to coach😭
Did Ethan get suspended for vandalizing Devi’s car? They never mentioned it. If they were going to have him disappear, they should have inserted that somewhere in the dialogue at least.
I would have loved to see aneesa and Ethan. Devi could have tried to to warn her and aneesa could get into a fight with her and not listen and idk smth like that
Hey If you loved the Nalini arc, then you'd love this movie recommendation. It's called "English Vinglish" and it is about a traditional indian housewife who has just moved to USA but can't speak english. I promise you'd love it. Also, loved your channel and your analysis. So much of the same, I was thinking. Subscribed.😊
Honestly Paxton’s relationship with the substitute teacher didn’t weirded me out just because he looks 34 😂 and Ethan was too hot to be just in 3 episodes and was too weird for them to cut him out of the series like that , like he never existed ahahha he had potential , I liked how he stood for Devi even though he had a lot to learn
tbh it’s not even about the actor’s appearance as they don’t see that he looks old, we do. also why would a college graduate like someone who just finished hs
I will say as an indian who I guess has similar expectations to devi I sort of understood why she lied about the IV leagues. To get into none literally crushed MY SOUL despite not actually being in the show. Was it a terrible decision? absolutely, but was it somewhat realistic? also yes. Despite Devis moms character growth that fear of completely failing is something that can't be so broken easily especially within Indian families. I also think that whole talk with her mom about coming 'all the way from India' was so needed and I felt that so hard. As an indian, to see that kind of depicition and respresentation of what it is like to go through that is heartbreaking but also so raw and true to a lot of Indian families. I cant speak for everyone but that one scene singlehandedly broke me inot tears because I knew that feeling all too well
I feel like throughout the show, Devi would make a mistake, like lying to her mum, and then the consequences would just spiral out of her control through no fault of her own, like the principal announcing her "clean sweep" without verifying it with her.
Ngl as someone who somewhat enjoys the bad boy trope I'm so disappointed with how Ethan was written out after like 4 episodes (didn't even last halfway through man 😭). Like I GENUINELY thought they were gonna do more with him and I really wanted to see him develop, because from what I saw there was really potential there. Especially the part where he talked to Akshara about Devi's studiousness (and the part where he was waiting on Devi's car to check if she was okay), I thought that kind of showed that he wasn't just a "bad boy" and there might have been more to him, even if he probably used that moment as an opportunity to swipe Akshara's wallet. I don't know. I guess I was just hoping for more depth to him instead of reducing him to a bad person. Even then, it was weird for him to straight up disappear, because I thought at the very least if he wasn't gonna get positive development there would be some kind of spiteful plot with him after the breakup since he's petty enough to wanna vandalize a teacher's car for getting an F on homework 💀 I guess I'm just a sucker for the bad boys that develop which was why my hopes were so high for him. Oh well lol.
I think it was nice that Paxton went back to high school because it showed that he still missed what was & familiarity like hell his HS wasn’t bad , He probably would miss the hell out of it and got nervous. Because although you’re growing up there’s always push back, ***Also it makes sense that Devi lied b/c I feel that she always was scared of being a failure and growth can, again be a push and pull thing
Ok and another Kamala not wanting to go to take the job opportunity makes sense. Like she’s attached herself to her family for over 3years and I remember I almost never went to Florida cause I was scared to fly without my family. Like when Family is a big part of your life and you’re around each other it’s hard to move hours away
I really like the show buts sometimes it was a bit random like Ethan, he was just there for 5 episodes and then he disappears. Like literally not a second. But I love how Paxton decided to be a teacher . BUT i also hate that Devi lied to her mom! I could tell much more but yeah...
Okay, ik that Devi and Paxton doesn’t work together but I didn’t really understand what happened because in season 3 they had feeling for each other and then in season 4 the automatically don’t without any degrading (sorry for my English, I don’t know it that well)
Ben probably got the internship right out of high school because of his dad pulling strings. And if your open to it I think the summer I turned pretty would be great show to review especially since S2 is coming out soon. Loved the video btw🫶
The show pointed out that devi had been so focused on getting into Princeton and never gave thought to what would come after getting in (including what she really wanted to study). Her focus was purely getting in.
I feel like Fabiola was such a 2 dimensional character - compared to a lot of the other characters in the show, she was poorly written, almost as if she is there to just be the quirky best friend. It was having her there for the sake of representation (of the queer community) rather than fleshing her out. Like she had soooo much potential but I feel like it was kind of a let down. ALSO it is so true that Aneesa gave NOTHING this season. Like it was such a rollercoaster, but then she went from tackling an important eating disorder to getting a couple of lines in season 4. We needed more of her, to just explore, and give her some kind of resolution.
This show is very close to my heart because it gives me the feeling that I have never experienced in my real life, I am a school dropout and I never get to go to college, maybe that's the reason
I met my husband when I was 24 and he was 20. We've been together 6 years and have zero toxicity issues with maturity. I think it depends on the people (of course age gaps between adults and minors matter like a 21 yo dating a 15 yo but I'm strictly speaking about adult on adult with a small contradiction bekoe) and their maturity levels. Connections also matter. People are all different and if they're connecting because of being on the same maturity level I see it. That said, the Paxton and the teacher didn't work for me. The maturity I'm talking about wasn't there. He was literally still feeling like he was a kid...and she was clearly more of that adult mindset. They had zero chemistry and little screeentime and if you take the teacher out--nothing in the show changes lol it was a forced romance to give every character a romance and I felt it with them. Their characters didn't make sense together. Now as for Paxton and Devi. Between the characters, those two years didn't matter. They literally went to school together for 3 years lol 19 is an adult legally but mentally? They're both developing their brains just the same, and are more on the same maturity level. Then having a romance after he leaves is whatever. But you are correct; him being a teacher made it icky. At that point, it needed to be a professional relationship until she was out of school. Lol It really was strange having him come back and have that scene. Anyway, enjoyed your thoughts!! And your funny little inserts 😂
Hate that she didn’t end up alone. Never wanted her with Ben & her ending with Paxton was decent. But I’d rather her be alone in the end. Didn’t like her with Paxton bc of the actor’s age lol
Yeah, like her life is literally revolved around boys. Like we don't even know what she's majoring in? Her career? And didn't show her feelings about her dad until like the last 10 minutes of the show. And didn't show much interaction with Kamla or her mom. It kinda showed Devi being sneaky, not honest with her mom, sleeping around with boys, in her mom's house where she could of gotten caught. Like how she didn't get caught with 2 other women, and a strict mom, living under the same roof?
What I really dislike in season 4 is that they say that the school that they’ve all been going to is meant to be a crappy school, and everyone acknowledges how crappy it is. Devi’s mother is a doctor and Ben’s dad is an entertainment lawyer living in a massive mansion, surely the school they’d send their kids to would be a really good school
Never Have I Ever is prob the best show Mindy Kaling can produce. THANK GOD, she was not in total control of this show or else it would be super mediocre and Devi would not have the character development she has. Although the show is still not that good, it is pretty tolerable and okay.
okay, Paxton. It was very infuriating that many of the characters would assume that he was "old." Let's look past the fact that the actor is older and focus on the character. Paxton is 18 I want to say towards the beginning of season 4 and then turns 19 somewhere in the middle or towards the end. I thought it was so unreasonable for the substitute teacher to tell him after his accidental party that he was an adult and should have kicked the students out. It really isn't that easy for someone who's around the same age as the students. Personally, I wouldn't be able to do that. Obviously, the students see Paxton without respect because he's basically a couple months to a year older. I wouldn't listen to someone who is just a year or months older than me. So I hated the Sub to be honest because she acted as if she wasn't significantly older than Paxton who she knew just got out of High school months ago.
What Lindsey did was the most obvious thing to do. I worked as a school teacher and it was absolutely shocking for me seeing a school staff partying with students. That didn't make sense at all. What she did was helping Paxton, because he clearly wasn't taking his job seriously, regardless of how weird he could felt about it. Now, the weird thing is the school hiring him.
also i just remembered that paxton had a younger sister who was helping his character develop but i guess they just deleted her character after season 1???
this video has made me realize that this show has wayy too many characters and the writers keep bringing in more as plot devices exclusively. they (understandably) can’t possibly find the time to flesh out all of them and we’re left with shells of people and wasted potential at every corner. i feel like they should’ve focused on what they had instead of getting lost in a convoluted plot and shock factor
I was super tired and hated the many inconvenient interactions between Devi and Ben. It was clear that they were end game but how they did it was annoying. They literally drained all the spark for the end.
i'm not mad about ben not having as much development this season bc like, not all characters have to be developed evenly/fairly every season (like obviously aneesa was sidelined this time around). plus, the show needed to dedicate more time to characters that didn't get much development in earlier seasons, like paxton/margot/pati
although i do agree that i wish kamala had a bigger role, i believe they showed at the end of the final episode a clip of her in maryland meaning that she did end up taking the job.
I might be reaching but Ethan's character kind of fits into that stereotype where the minority character has to be the villain like why is the Mexican the "bad boy" who steals stuff?
Yes 💯. She literally uses him sexually and discards him after demanding he commit to her. They way she tosses him aside like or course he's not actually good enough wasn't it for me.
About devi not telling her mum about her not getting into any college, I don't think it's just her problematic decision making skills . Her mom had always been very harsh on her and now suddenly she is growing into a more kind and accepting person / mom for devi , that's gonna need some time for devi to get used to it as well, she didn't wanna disappoint her mom , didn't wanna let her down when in the past over every single thing her mum used to act so disappointed. Not everything is on devi yk ?
I did not get the ick from Paxton and Devi kissing because if you can date in high school you can after one graduates too. But I'm glad the main coach had a issue because it would be illegal
Ethan morales is just there tbh…his character could have gotten used better than the bad boy like example he loved devi sm it was obvious and yk how devi changed Paxton i feel like she could have changed ethan. Ben gross: he was just a no tbh…..his plotline of “oh i traveled here because i love you” and his dream….. tbh daxton is better Paxton hall yoshida : i agree him coming back to highschool was embarrassing like i feel like they could’ve kept him in college and devi might like be around the area or smthing and she meets up with him…listen im not that creative😭
My niece called me and we “watched” it together. We were both happy with Devi and Ben ending together. It was a cute ending for everyone 😢, I’ll miss it.
Imma always be team paxton❤he is so sweet and caring, he was the only person that truly was there for Devi and them not being together in the end made no sense
I suggest watching Ginny and Georgia it’s got some elements from this show. Maybe Disney boy meets world, that’s great too. It would be interesting to see your opinions on how things went in those shows.
I wish we did more with anisha. I also kinda wish she was a fellow LGBT character- maybe some unlikely trans rep that could help make Asians and Indians more comfortable w trans people seeing someone who’s Asian that was supported by their parents as a trans woman??? (Obvs played by a trans person). But nooo, we have to put women against each other and give Devi MORE competition for some reason . And maybe some South Indian rep?? Would have loved to see someone Tamil or Malayalee.
i wish anissa had her own love story line instead of giving devi a random one, and maybe at the end she goes to the wedding and she can help fabiola and elenor get ready because she knows how the wedding works, and then her love interest could come get her at the wedding so we could still have the fabiola-elenor-devi moment in her room
I feel like the writing was somewhat all over the place this Season. Honestly don’t know why Netflix won’t do more episodes than 10. It’s clear that this show like some others, needs more episodes than 10. It was slightly unbearable but still easy to watch. Love the show though!
fabiola is the same in every season though. She has some big "dark" secret, hides it from friends and then when she reveals it there is a fight or everyone is happy for her and then they all move on. Shes sadly the most boring of the bunch
This season was bad. There was so much that didn't make sense. Paxton and Devi have wayyyy more chemistry than Ben and Devi, and Devi and Paxton always cause each other to grow, whereas with Ben, it's just constant bickering. Manish literally disappeared. Ethan showing up for only two eps makes absolutely no sense. There should have been a bigger closure scene in regards to Devi's dad where it's clear that she truly has finally healed. There was no epic narrator moment with John McEnroe and Andy Sandberg and Gigi Hadid. John McEnroe lines used to make me laugh so so hard, and they all just fell flat this season. I don't understand why they brought a new character with the substitute teacher when they could have used that screentime to develop Kamala or maybe more with Nalini's story with Margot's dad. Elanor giving up in Julliard makes no sense when there are so many other places she could go to like NYU, etc. I'm surprised they didn't include more of Paxton's family, especially Rebecca, as she is key in terms of his growth. Maybe this is asking a lot of just one season. SO? the show is popular, you can split all this up over two more seasons. People will still watch it. Having 5 seasons doesn't turn it into Riverdale with its never ending seasons. Overall, this season just didn't have the spark that the last seasons did.
I disagree about the Paxton storyline. Him going back to high school and that being embarrassing was the point. It was fun to see the writers explore the peaked-in-high-school trope and I think it fit well with the overall “college isn’t what you expect” theme of the season
Also, the show focuses pretty heavily on Devi. If you're not in her orbit you stop existing, so moving focus to Paxton while he's in college would feel deeply weird.
True. And he did join back
yeah I agree, I felt it was in his character because of the peaked-in-high-school trope that he carries out. it would make sense for someone who thinks that his place is his high school, to drop out to go back (if that makes sense). plus he decided to go back to ASU to get a degree in teaching so that he could potentially become a swim coach (I believe).
Ben was able to get an internship because he’s rich and his dad has a bunch of connections. That is honestly the least unrealistic part.
Exactly, he’s so rich his dad could probably open a whole new lawyer society just to give his son an internship. But honestly, I love that, like if you can, why not? He and his das are both very hardworking so they deserve to have a nice career and be rich , Ben doesn’t take money for granted just cause his dad is rich, he want to make his dad proud and I love that
The funny thing about Paxton/Lindsay ship was that character-wise you'd feel he's too young for her and appearance-wise he looks older than her. It gave me cognitive dissonance.
i looked it up and his actor is 8 years older than hers lmao 💀
@@jennarenee9112 sounds about right. The only female character that Paxton's actor would look right next to is Kamala 😂
It was weird putting them together bc the whole time I was thinking “I know what they’re gonna do & that would be gross inside the show’s universe bc wtf”!
This is thing with every teen drama on Netflix
they had 0 chemistry bro they just dont match up idk why they threw that in
That substitute teacher was treating Paxton like he was grown. She was so disappointed that he was throwing that party with teenagers as if he wasn’t a teenager himself.
Because he was 1. Not in hs anymore 2. A teacher now
Like, it was weird and wrong of him. He needed someone to not baby him and show him he needed to now have a different mindset if he was gonna help at the school he went to.
Simple.
@@j.m251 Paxton was only out of highschool for at least 3 months. He wasn’t in college long enough to even get any type of degree or certification to become a teacher. The substitute I believe her name was Ms. Thompson should not have been disappointed or shocked at his behavior. In fact she’s the creepier one for dating him.
@@j.m251 he wasn't grown like she was. he was months out of hs, barely went to college and was 19 and working at a school where his friends still attended. she was acting like he was her age and a real teacher partying w his kids he only knows as students.
She meant legally that he can no longer do that. Yes he’s a teen still but at the end of the day he was an employee at the school.
That’s a liability.
Ethan could have been a really good opportunity for Devi to question any prejudice she might have against people who don’t care about school / have different backgrounds. School and ivy leagues aren’t an obsession for everyone, especially those who have other stuff they’re dealing with or have parents who didn’t go to college. I agree that they should have given him a backstory or not included him at all.. it didn’t sit well with me that it was just like, “oh he’s a dirtbag, he’ll drag you down” and then he disappeared 🤣 but I get why a lot of people aren’t that attached to him, I just really liked how sweet he was and felt kinda bad for him when he got dumped LOL
I love Paxton's storyline and how he was so supportive toward people.
Personally I feel like with only 10 episodes of 30 minutes to wrap up so many storylines with proper closure, the show did a pretty good job. It's understandable why some characters like Kamala, Aneesa and Ethan were given very little screen time even though it did disappoint a bit . IMO, almost all the storylines that did get included felt necessary, were potrayed well and didn't feel rushed. Although, Paxton's storyline definitely seemed forced and could've been done better.
I totally agree with Kamala and Aneesa having such minor roles and how disappointing that is. especially cuz Aneesa's hair is so pretty in this season but it also just feels like a major disservice to their characters as they've gone through so much these past few seasons and having them ignore that just limit them to background characters o extremely minor arcs that go against their whole personalities was really sad for me. I still liked the season and am more than satisfied with this ending :)
Exactly, each episode I have been waiting for them to talk about her but was so disapointed by the end
@Shababa Iqbal im so happy she went to Baltimore & stayed with manish 🥹
I loved the way they took Paxton's storyline. It's a lot more relatable than ever. A lot of students develop a persona in high school, and they get attached to all the perks. Stepping out of your comfort zone is difficult and he could not handle it, which I believe meshes well with character traits shown of him before (when he chose new girl after Devi because it was "easy")
Addition: As for Devi lying about getting in, we have to remember the argument Mohan and Nalini had about Devi. Devi always felt like she was a burden and problematic particularly for her mother. Also, that ramble the mother had about moving from India and how she felt about it. Devi never liked the idea of making her mom feel like she was right to be disappointed in her.
I love this perspective! I couldn’t see it myself, thank you for taking the time to explain it🫶🏽
Thank god someone else agrees what college grad would be interested in a boy who just left high school
I feel like a lot of characters disappeared/faded to the background (Manish, Fabiola's girlfriend and especially Aneesa). It's not a dealbreaker because of course I'd prefer the focus to be on the major characters, but it also impacts the storylines (or lack thereof) of some of the other characters such as Kamala: I actually forgot she was in a relationship with Manish until the last episode! I almost wish they had not brought new characters like Margot, Ethan or Lindsay onto the show since they didn't do much with those characters and the show could have spent that time on other characters that were already established instead. Lindsay especially felt like a wasted character: I almost feel like she was created so Paxton wouldn't end up alone; there's not really much else to her. But I'm very happy with where most of the main characters ended up, especially Paxton, who I feel had the most character development over the course of the series except for Devi.
Couldn‘t agree more and like Aneesa?!?!?😢
Margot was not necessarily a new character. Margot showed up on the last season.
@@lamelya Margot is new relative to the main cast. She shows up at the back end of season 3 and I honestly do not care one bit about her. Maybe other fans feel differently, but not much was done to make her feel like a multi-dimensional character akin to Ben, Paxton, or even Aneesa.
@@crystallewis5902 I agree with you as far as Margot being relatively new because of when she started. I was thinking more on the line of when her character was introduced compared to, for example, Ethan. I saw it as a character that was introduced in a way of what her interests were, and why they had her and Ben get together. Plus it helped to introduce her father.
@@ana1977x she was filming a different show at the time
I really resonated with Paxton’s story. After high school I ended up going to work at my high school. It was hard to separate my old friends who were still in school and act professional.
It did feel weird, but I knew college wasn’t for me so I stuck to what I knew.
So I feel like thats maybe where he was at, unsure and scared so he just came back home to hold onto what he had.
I loved this season but in all honesty I was super disappointed with the lack of focus Kamala and Aneesa got! They’re my two favorite characters and they didn’t get much to do and it was sad, though with Aneesa I heard her actress was acting in another project so I understand why she couldn’t do much but I wish they gave Kamala more to do with her career but I did love the moments she had at the end of the season with Devi and she’s like a big sister to her! Another thing I loved was how they gave Fabiola and Eleanor more focus on their passions with Robotics and Acting and I just love seeing characters that have fleshed out interests that tie into their goals, I wish Devi and Ben got that same treatment too though (I think they both wanna get into the Law field but that wasn’t really fleshed out too much)! I especially loved how Fabiola chose going to Howard because of her want to make the field more inclusive that was super cool to see! Her character was honestly the highlight of the season for me! :D 💖
They honestly should have just made the season longer. So we could have a more complete ending for all the characters. Like for Ethan, Aneesa, Kamala, Lindsay, and Ben. Honestly the show reels in characters, uses them up, and then drops them. It isn’t fair. Especially for Ethan, all they told us was that he’s a bad boy and that’s it. They both thought each other was hot, got together, Devi has a wake up call and realizes he’s a bad person, and drops him like a hot potato. AND HE LOOKED HEART BROKEN. They didn’t even show him after the break up (and it rly didn’t seem to bother Devi). They should have known that if they want to add in new characters, they shouldn’t just “introduce them as side characters”. They are all people with their own stories. And yes I agree with how the Lindsey and Paxton relationship was odd. Cute but odd. Like realistically she would not be with a 19 year old. It could have worked out if Paxton asks her out but she declines. That would have been interesting to see. Anyways those are my thoughts lol.
With Paxton and Lindsay to me it just felt weird and awkward. It felt like the writers were just like “okay let’s do a few scenes of Paxton talking to the only other young teacher who happens to be a woman and then they can date” because maybe they thought it was an easy option where Paxton wouldn’t have ended up alone. I felt like their relationship decision was kinda rushed for the writers even though I know they did have to tie loose ends up quickly bc it was the last season of the show. But personally I would have preferred for Paxton be on his own and doing his own thing and finding himself. Whether that meant going back to college or training to become a swim coach. I feel like it would have made more sense for Paxton character - because all through high school he has been this legend and the ultimate cool guy for 4 years - and now that’s his personality. So I think it would have been good character development for Paxton go out and see the world and have that as his ending instead of ending up with Lindsay, it just felt wrong to see him with someone who tbh didn’t fit his personality at all.
I don't think it was weird that Ben got an internship! His family is super mega rich and his father had a lot of connection that he could have pulled
I wasn’t really feeling Ben and Margot at all. That relationship just made me salty. As far as Devi and Ethan I feel like Ethan had potential to learn from his mistakes and continue his relationship with Devi. Ethan gave ride or die vibes. Paxton and the substitute teacher was kinda cringe 😅
In my opinion they did well with what they had. I don't know if anyone have seen some of their interviews for when season 3 came out. During that time it was mentioned that they have already filmed season 4. The way I see that is some of the actors probably couldn't be there fully because of other projects they had going on at the same time as season 4 was being filmed. I would say that was probably the case for the person who plays Aneesa and the person who plays Manish (and probably Ethan as well).
I think this season was all about them growing up. Also, them finally realizing what they wanted and needed was right in front them but they needed a little "trauma" to get there.
I feel like them putting Devi and Ben together at the end was the game plan from the beginning. I think they wanted to show that their relationship was definitely a love relationship from the beginning and Paxton was the guy to help them see that without him knowing that he was helping. Paxton being there was almost like a confidence booster when it came to self-worth for Devi and also for himself.
So, again in my opinion I feel like they did pretty good with what they had. Also, their majors were discussed in the past for the most part, or at least their interests were, so that is probably why they didn't want to mention it too much. But, I do agree with how Ben got an internship with a law firm so quick. The only reason why I think he got that was because his father's connection and probably pulled some strings for him. I do wish they could have showed his parents at least once in this last season.
The way that they were like Eleanor can direct her own projects like that's not immensely harder to get access to
I think Ben got that internship because his dad is a big-name lawyer - he probably pulled some strings. And Paxton, I feel like it would be hard to tie Paxton into the story if he was working or doing something outside of the school into. Same reaction when Paxton and Devi kissed!!!
literally like where was aneesa?? like my girl was so great and they just dropped her
From what I read on some people's post, she had another project going at the time and couldn't hardly be there. So, I didn't think they "dropped" her intentionally.
ikr!! it wouldve been interesting if they had aneesa in margot's place instead of adding her character. i get nalini "needed" a problematic love interest but that easily couldve been added separately.
I like Season 4 though there were some areas of the storyline I had question about.
I didn't like how Ethan just disappear after four episodes for no reason. I also agreed that Kamala and Aneesa were not given a lot of screen time but I heard that Megan Suri who play Aneesa had another project going on so I think that's why she wasn't given that much screen time this season. Paxton's storyline was interesting. He went to college, drop out and came back to the school as a swimming teacher. His character wasn't the same from the previous three seasons and also him being in a relationship with that teacher in the end seem forced.
There were also some good moments. I love how Nalini found new love after going through such a tough loss of losing Mohan and knowing it was time to move on which wasn't easy for her. I like how Nirmala found love which is cute. Most of all, I like how they ended off Devi's story with her going to her dream college and being in Ben. Although some disagree, I feel Ben was the right one considering he was always there for her despite all time he was bullying her but eventually became friends to lovers. I just love on how in the end, all the characters ended having a good ending where they started from the beginning to end. This series made a great impact on everyone with valuable lessons and I'm sad it's done but it was a good run.
YEAHHHH i felt like paxton going back to high school was humiliatingggg and even the show acknowledged how embarrassing it was! I know it was written that way to get his character back at sherman oaks w the rest of the cast but I feel like they should've just let him explore himself at asu for a couple scenes each episode or something... really liked his personal growth otherwise tho.
Shes the first female queer muslim indian character, they could have explored her culture and the conflict between Hindus and muslims and the impact it could have on their friendship. They could have used her to show what Diwali looks like for Indian muslims who celebrate it as well despite it having nothing to due with their faith and Devi spending time with her and doing the Iftar, eid and Ramadan with her. It could have been so great but it wasn't which is such a shame.
netflix would never allow that, they hate sapphics and muslims sadly
Honestly Mindy dropped the damn ball with this season. She chose Ben in the end which, I like Ben but Mindy put Ethan as a distraction and didn’t even try to develop him. She did that with Des and just made him a mommas boy. Then with Paxton she made him unattainable by turning him into a teacher and picked Ben….it’s just what she does…
I’ve noticed she does that a lot w her shows (mostly the ones I’ve watched, NHIE and SLOCG). The black or brown girl w a yt guy. It’s basically Mindy projecting her life on to her shows..
@@beebeevids6851 yeah it’s weird and it feels like she’s trying to justify her own relationship. Which she doesn’t need to because it’s her love life. But the way she undercuts more suitable men for the pardon my language basic white boy saviour in all her shows is grating. Because honestly I would’ve preferred Devi with Des not just because he is Indian but because he’s Paxton and Ben combined but she purposely ruined the character when she saw his popularity because she desperately wants the vicarious shipping of Ben. Then she ruined Paxton who was also a fan favourite by making him a teacher. Trying to make it seem that it’s better that they’re friends when he was Devis miracle and the reason she walked again her line of “by being the dream” is what clenched it for me. But no it had to be Ben which yeah the nerdy guy and girl thing is cute but they don’t make sense because of the amount of issues they have TOGETHER. It kinda made the show in my opinion go out with a fizzle. Sorry this turned into a rant 😭😂
@@HelloAwesome94 Literally! I honestly wanted Devi in a relationship w herself! I liked that her and Paxton were just friends by the end of the show but to have her end up w Ben… it’s just an on going cycle of Mindy Kaling shows that I do not like! Plus her cheating on both of them (I think she cheated on Ben w Paxton and vice versa) just makes her seem real indecisive. Then her “relationship” w Ethan was only for 3 episodes then he disappeared like where’d he go? She got what she wanted, learned from it and he’s just written off. Nice
@@beebeevids6851 fair and honestly I would’ve preferred either Des if Mindy had fleshed him out more. Or for Devi to keep going with therapy because being indecisive in youth is normal but what she did and how she went about it was indicative of something. So dr.Ryan helping her be at peace with Devi wouldve been great but the whole point of the show was love triangles and teenage shenanigan’s.
@@HelloAwesome94
Fr, I like Ben as a character (and I would’ve loved Ben and Devi more if they didn’t drag out the will they won’t they past s2)
but the other thing that I feel like a lot of ppl don’t realize the issue for ppl who don’t like the Benvi ship is how it correlates to 4 other shows Mindy’s produced/wrote for where the Indian main girl character ends up with the nerdy (kinda toxic at times) white guy. Like yes they’re cute, I’m not disagreeing, but every other love interest she’s had has been discounted by some weird issue or in Paxton’s case,where the chemistry was still there and he’s a major character, made it out to be an ick almost by giving the power imbalance with him being a teacher even though they were literally dating a year ago.
(I understand that another reason the love interests didn’t stay around is because highschool relationships don’t really last long)
Sorry for the rant, I still love the show despite that because Devi is a great MC and her relationship with her family is beautiful to me.
Ethan literally just left after the last scene he was in with Devi… like what happened?!? I wish he could have had a come back and be a better person or something.
Okay, I love Ben, but the guy was a nepo baby. I wasn't shocked by the internship, specially because it could be more just to understand the environment. It could easily be arranged
I think Kamala wanted opportunities so much that she was afraid to fail
I think Trent just realized he prioritizes relationships, not career and so is the case of many many people
i personally am gonna miss this show i do like how it ended but i’d selfishly love to see a college spinoff (we need more college shows and this is one of the most diverse shows out rn)
I didn't think this season was terrible but it was definitely one of my least favorites. First off, they just completely discarded SO many characters (rebecca, manish, aneesa, and ethan after they broke up). But on top of that I feel like a lot of the characters did a ton of stuff that either didn't really make sense for their character or just had no purpose. Like that random part where trent told ben to stop doing work now that he got into college and he just listened?? Also fabiola and eleanor being so mad at devi the first few seasons for her lying but then lying to her face the entire last season (fabiola not telling devi she applied to or got into princeton and eleanor keeping it a secret that she was graduating early). Also, kind of confused on how she did graduate early like she was in quite a few required core classes that she never finished. It felt kind of useless like why not just wait till graduation and then do that? Also don't even get me started on paxton this season. Making paxton a teacher at devi's school and then having them kiss (on school grounds which is even worse) just made the ship seem gross. I also was very confused about the college situation devi got herself into, she spent all of her life hyperfocused on college so her of all people should've known to apply to safe schools.
I understand not applying to safety schools because shes always been depicted as really confident in her academic abilities and she felt like she wouldn’t need them
I love never have I ever, but can we talk about how at the end John McEnroe says signing out… For now
I know right like yes just a trick as I'm sure season 4 was the last one but like what does it mean?
in my opinion Kamala boyfriend devis teacher should have been in season 4 like he wasn’t there the entire season… like he was just thrown to the side
he was probably filming something else like aneesa’s actress
Ikr. It was so weird between Paxton and the substitute teacher. I was so uncomfortable 😬
Ethan was literally in 10 Minutes of the Show...
This season wasnt giving as it was suppose to give but thats ok i still enjoyed it :). you described it the best, “rushed” !
It was annoying to me that they never said what Devi wanted to study. Ben's dad is a lawyer and he hooked him up with the intership at the end of the season. I always just assumed he would be studying law because of his dad...
Aneesa-wise, I think Megan Suri was just busy with another project...?
paxton going back to school for teaching honestly makes sense with him being a good swim coach bc idk about yalls high school but mine made 98% of coaches teach a class, even if they just wanted to coach😭
This video is so well done for someone with only 1.57k subscribers girl you deserve MORE
Did Ethan get suspended for vandalizing Devi’s car? They never mentioned it. If they were going to have him disappear, they should have inserted that somewhere in the dialogue at least.
It’s the fact that they gave ERIC more screen time than Aneesa... Like ERIC??? they did her so wrong i felt so bad for her
I would have loved to see aneesa and Ethan. Devi could have tried to to warn her and aneesa could get into a fight with her and not listen and idk smth like that
Ayooo that’ll be a great match tbhhh… those two really combined now that I stop to think-
This was honestly the best season and it was a very good ending
no because i feel like out of everyone this season fabiola was the most consistent
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Aneesa was THAT girl and for everyone else to get more screen time over her - WHAT?? We were robbed
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I love that movie, Sridevi was great
Honestly Paxton’s relationship with the substitute teacher didn’t weirded me out just because he looks 34 😂 and Ethan was too hot to be just in 3 episodes and was too weird for them to cut him out of the series like that , like he never existed ahahha he had potential , I liked how he stood for Devi even though he had a lot to learn
tbh it’s not even about the actor’s appearance as they don’t see that he looks old, we do. also why would a college graduate like someone who just finished hs
@@smu8672 I agree. I was saying that I didn't find it weird just because his physical appearance made me forget he was supposed to be 19.
Am I the only one who didn’t like Ethan ☠️ cliche edgy E boy, and Devi needed her own development without trying to fix someone else
I will say as an indian who I guess has similar expectations to devi I sort of understood why she lied about the IV leagues. To get into none literally crushed MY SOUL despite not actually being in the show. Was it a terrible decision? absolutely, but was it somewhat realistic? also yes. Despite Devis moms character growth that fear of completely failing is something that can't be so broken easily especially within Indian families. I also think that whole talk with her mom about coming 'all the way from India' was so needed and I felt that so hard. As an indian, to see that kind of depicition and respresentation of what it is like to go through that is heartbreaking but also so raw and true to a lot of Indian families. I cant speak for everyone but that one scene singlehandedly broke me inot tears because I knew that feeling all too well
I feel like throughout the show, Devi would make a mistake, like lying to her mum, and then the consequences would just spiral out of her control through no fault of her own, like the principal announcing her "clean sweep" without verifying it with her.
actually aneesa got a soccer scholarship to who knows where she mentioned it while she was leaving that little lounge area in the school
You’re such a nice person to listen to for some reason!!❤️
This season was kinda messy but im gonna miss this show ❤
Ngl as someone who somewhat enjoys the bad boy trope I'm so disappointed with how Ethan was written out after like 4 episodes (didn't even last halfway through man 😭). Like I GENUINELY thought they were gonna do more with him and I really wanted to see him develop, because from what I saw there was really potential there. Especially the part where he talked to Akshara about Devi's studiousness (and the part where he was waiting on Devi's car to check if she was okay), I thought that kind of showed that he wasn't just a "bad boy" and there might have been more to him, even if he probably used that moment as an opportunity to swipe Akshara's wallet. I don't know. I guess I was just hoping for more depth to him instead of reducing him to a bad person. Even then, it was weird for him to straight up disappear, because I thought at the very least if he wasn't gonna get positive development there would be some kind of spiteful plot with him after the breakup since he's petty enough to wanna vandalize a teacher's car for getting an F on homework 💀
I guess I'm just a sucker for the bad boys that develop which was why my hopes were so high for him. Oh well lol.
I think it was nice that Paxton went back to high school because it showed that he still missed what was & familiarity like hell his HS wasn’t bad ,
He probably would miss the hell out of it and got nervous. Because although you’re growing up there’s always push back,
***Also it makes sense that Devi lied b/c I feel that she always was scared of being a failure and growth can, again be a push and pull thing
Ok and another Kamala not wanting to go to take the job opportunity makes sense. Like she’s attached herself to her family for over 3years and I remember I almost never went to Florida cause I was scared to fly without my family.
Like when Family is a big part of your life and you’re around each other it’s hard to move hours away
LETS. TALK. ABOUT. THE. THERAPIST. SCENE!!! it made me literally cry so hard
I really like the show buts sometimes it was a bit random like Ethan, he was just there for 5 episodes and then he disappears. Like literally not a second. But I love how Paxton decided to be a teacher . BUT i also hate that Devi lied to her mom! I could tell much more but yeah...
Okay, ik that Devi and Paxton doesn’t work together but I didn’t really understand what happened because in season 3 they had feeling for each other and then in season 4 the automatically don’t without any degrading (sorry for my English, I don’t know it that well)
Devi is actually 18 in this season
gurl you are soooo pretty!
Ben probably got the internship right out of high school because of his dad pulling strings. And if your open to it I think the summer I turned pretty would be great show to review especially since S2 is coming out soon. Loved the video btw🫶
The show pointed out that devi had been so focused on getting into Princeton and never gave thought to what would come after getting in (including what she really wanted to study). Her focus was purely getting in.
I feel like Fabiola was such a 2 dimensional character - compared to a lot of the other characters in the show, she was poorly written, almost as if she is there to just be the quirky best friend. It was having her there for the sake of representation (of the queer community) rather than fleshing her out. Like she had soooo much potential but I feel like it was kind of a let down.
ALSO it is so true that Aneesa gave NOTHING this season. Like it was such a rollercoaster, but then she went from tackling an important eating disorder to getting a couple of lines in season 4. We needed more of her, to just explore, and give her some kind of resolution.
Hold up with the Elenor and Trent thing WE SAW THEM ACTING TOGETHER AT THE END and she realized she wanted to be a director
In my opinion Never have I ever was a masterpiece, a master piece, and season 4 was the perfect ending
I love devi she is so cool . I love the chemistry in 4 th season
This show is very close to my heart because it gives me the feeling that I have never experienced in my real life, I am a school dropout and I never get to go to college, maybe that's the reason
they rusheddd this season frrr
To be fair, Lindsy didn’t know Paxton when Paxton was a student. Lindsy had met Paxton as a teacher
I met my husband when I was 24 and he was 20. We've been together 6 years and have zero toxicity issues with maturity. I think it depends on the people (of course age gaps between adults and minors matter like a 21 yo dating a 15 yo but I'm strictly speaking about adult on adult with a small contradiction bekoe) and their maturity levels. Connections also matter. People are all different and if they're connecting because of being on the same maturity level I see it.
That said, the Paxton and the teacher didn't work for me. The maturity I'm talking about wasn't there. He was literally still feeling like he was a kid...and she was clearly more of that adult mindset. They had zero chemistry and little screeentime and if you take the teacher out--nothing in the show changes lol it was a forced romance to give every character a romance and I felt it with them. Their characters didn't make sense together.
Now as for Paxton and Devi. Between the characters, those two years didn't matter. They literally went to school together for 3 years lol 19 is an adult legally but mentally? They're both developing their brains just the same, and are more on the same maturity level. Then having a romance after he leaves is whatever.
But you are correct; him being a teacher made it icky. At that point, it needed to be a professional relationship until she was out of school. Lol It really was strange having him come back and have that scene.
Anyway, enjoyed your thoughts!! And your funny little inserts 😂
I could not understand why did devi not invite Margot in grand mother wedding
Or why Kamala did not invite Manish
@@silverstarlight9395 yup true
Hate that she didn’t end up alone. Never wanted her with Ben & her ending with Paxton was decent. But I’d rather her be alone in the end.
Didn’t like her with Paxton bc of the actor’s age lol
Yeah, like her life is literally revolved around boys. Like we don't even know what she's majoring in? Her career? And didn't show her feelings about her dad until like the last 10 minutes of the show. And didn't show much interaction with Kamla or her mom. It kinda showed Devi being sneaky, not honest with her mom, sleeping around with boys, in her mom's house where she could of gotten caught. Like how she didn't get caught with 2 other women, and a strict mom, living under the same roof?
I think the story does need a season 5
ben wants to be lawyer like his dad...devi wants to judge so both lawyer
What I really dislike in season 4 is that they say that the school that they’ve all been going to is meant to be a crappy school, and everyone acknowledges how crappy it is. Devi’s mother is a doctor and Ben’s dad is an entertainment lawyer living in a massive mansion, surely the school they’d send their kids to would be a really good school
Never Have I Ever is prob the best show Mindy Kaling can produce. THANK GOD, she was not in total control of this show or else it would be super mediocre and Devi would not have the character development she has. Although the show is still not that good, it is pretty tolerable and okay.
okay, Paxton. It was very infuriating that many of the characters would assume that he was "old." Let's look past the fact that the actor is older and focus on the character. Paxton is 18 I want to say towards the beginning of season 4 and then turns 19 somewhere in the middle or towards the end. I thought it was so unreasonable for the substitute teacher to tell him after his accidental party that he was an adult and should have kicked the students out. It really isn't that easy for someone who's around the same age as the students. Personally, I wouldn't be able to do that. Obviously, the students see Paxton without respect because he's basically a couple months to a year older. I wouldn't listen to someone who is just a year or months older than me. So I hated the Sub to be honest because she acted as if she wasn't significantly older than Paxton who she knew just got out of High school months ago.
What Lindsey did was the most obvious thing to do. I worked as a school teacher and it was absolutely shocking for me seeing a school staff partying with students. That didn't make sense at all. What she did was helping Paxton, because he clearly wasn't taking his job seriously, regardless of how weird he could felt about it. Now, the weird thing is the school hiring him.
also i just remembered that paxton had a younger sister who was helping his character develop but i guess they just deleted her character after season 1???
this video has made me realize that this show has wayy too many characters and the writers keep bringing in more as plot devices exclusively. they (understandably) can’t possibly find the time to flesh out all of them and we’re left with shells of people and wasted potential at every corner. i feel
like they should’ve focused on what they had instead of getting lost in a convoluted plot and shock factor
I was super tired and hated the many inconvenient interactions between Devi and Ben. It was clear that they were end game but how they did it was annoying. They literally drained all the spark for the end.
i'm not mad about ben not having as much development this season bc like, not all characters have to be developed evenly/fairly every season (like obviously aneesa was sidelined this time around). plus, the show needed to dedicate more time to characters that didn't get much development in earlier seasons, like paxton/margot/pati
although i do agree that i wish kamala had a bigger role, i believe they showed at the end of the final episode a clip of her in maryland meaning that she did end up taking the job.
The character of Fabiola has been my favourite
I might be reaching but Ethan's character kind of fits into that stereotype where the minority character has to be the villain like why is the Mexican the "bad boy" who steals stuff?
oof that part!
And then Margot's dad, the hot constructor, and Margot, the spicy Latina who threatened to beat Devi up 🙄
Yes 💯. She literally uses him sexually and discards him after demanding he commit to her. They way she tosses him aside like or course he's not actually good enough wasn't it for me.
About devi not telling her mum about her not getting into any college, I don't think it's just her problematic decision making skills . Her mom had always been very harsh on her and now suddenly she is growing into a more kind and accepting person / mom for devi , that's gonna need some time for devi to get used to it as well, she didn't wanna disappoint her mom , didn't wanna let her down when in the past over every single thing her mum used to act so disappointed. Not everything is on devi yk ?
I did not get the ick from Paxton and Devi kissing because if you can date in high school you can after one graduates too. But I'm glad the main coach had a issue because it would be illegal
I agree with everything you said. I think this season needed like 20
Episodes to flush out all the story lines and characters
Ethan morales is just there tbh…his character could have gotten used better than the bad boy like example he loved devi sm it was obvious and yk how devi changed Paxton i feel like she could have changed ethan.
Ben gross: he was just a no tbh…..his plotline of “oh i traveled here because i love you” and his dream….. tbh daxton is better
Paxton hall yoshida : i agree him coming back to highschool was embarrassing like i feel like they could’ve kept him in college and devi might like be around the area or smthing and she meets up with him…listen im not that creative😭
also did ben even get his own episode like Paxton? if so then I missed it
My niece called me and we “watched” it together. We were both happy with Devi and Ben ending together. It was a cute ending for everyone 😢, I’ll miss it.
Imma always be team paxton❤he is so sweet and caring, he was the only person that truly was there for Devi and them not being together in the end made no sense
agreed😭😭😭
I suggest watching Ginny and Georgia it’s got some elements from this show. Maybe Disney boy meets world, that’s great too. It would be interesting to see your opinions on how things went in those shows.
I wish we did more with anisha. I also kinda wish she was a fellow LGBT character- maybe some unlikely trans rep that could help make Asians and Indians more comfortable w trans people seeing someone who’s Asian that was supported by their parents as a trans woman??? (Obvs played by a trans person). But nooo, we have to put women against each other and give Devi MORE competition for some reason . And maybe some South Indian rep?? Would have loved to see someone Tamil or Malayalee.
i wish anissa had her own love story line instead of giving devi a random one, and maybe at the end she goes to the wedding and she can help fabiola and elenor get ready because she knows how the wedding works, and then her love interest could come get her at the wedding so we could still have the fabiola-elenor-devi moment in her room
Eleanor didn’t drop out, she graduated early.
I personally think that it has potentials if they didn’t end it that way. I hope, they can make a lot of seasons, better ones ofcourse.
I ALSO LOOOOOOVE DEVI'S MOTHER SO MUCH!!! NALINI GREW SO MUCH AND SUPPORTS DEVI SO MUCH THIS SEASON!!!
so disappointed with the ending tbh WHERE WAS MY SIS ANEESA? WHERE WAS KAMALA? IM DONE. at least Devi and Ben wound up together.
Devi havin sex with Ben more than once really gave me the ick 😭like girl you havin sex with Ben but not Paxton!!?? I’m too confused 🤣
Right that was awkward too. And she had sex with Ethan too but not Paxton?
@@H81234 righttt like it made no sense, I at least thought she would after she lost her v card but it was just disappointment 🤣
yesss her and Ben had like 1% chemistry tbh😂 I was legit cringing lol
Literally only watch the show for Kamala, I love Richa Moorjani, and Kamala is everything.
Anessa was filming another movie during this time which is why she wasn’t as prevalent!
I feel like the writing was somewhat all over the place this Season. Honestly don’t know why Netflix won’t do more episodes than 10. It’s clear that this show like some others, needs more episodes than 10. It was slightly unbearable but still easy to watch. Love the show though!
You literally did not speak about Fabiola. Her storyline was my favourite this season.
fabiola is the same in every season though. She has some big "dark" secret, hides it from friends and then when she reveals it there is a fight or everyone is happy for her and then they all move on. Shes sadly the most boring of the bunch
@@leonthecat7836c'mon she is not boring
Fabiola is ❤
This season was bad. There was so much that didn't make sense. Paxton and Devi have wayyyy more chemistry than Ben and Devi, and Devi and Paxton always cause each other to grow, whereas with Ben, it's just constant bickering. Manish literally disappeared. Ethan showing up for only two eps makes absolutely no sense. There should have been a bigger closure scene in regards to Devi's dad where it's clear that she truly has finally healed. There was no epic narrator moment with John McEnroe and Andy Sandberg and Gigi Hadid. John McEnroe lines used to make me laugh so so hard, and they all just fell flat this season. I don't understand why they brought a new character with the substitute teacher when they could have used that screentime to develop Kamala or maybe more with Nalini's story with Margot's dad. Elanor giving up in Julliard makes no sense when there are so many other places she could go to like NYU, etc. I'm surprised they didn't include more of Paxton's family, especially Rebecca, as she is key in terms of his growth. Maybe this is asking a lot of just one season. SO? the show is popular, you can split all this up over two more seasons. People will still watch it. Having 5 seasons doesn't turn it into Riverdale with its never ending seasons. Overall, this season just didn't have the spark that the last seasons did.
YES TO ALL OF THIS!! Daxton was clearly superior and fit much better with Devi’s growth.
@Joy I agree! There was just so much potential with this season and it seems so wasted.
Eleanor decided to create her own projects. She didn’t drop out, she graduated early