The most annoying thing about Lorelei and Christopher getting back together was that Christopher obviously didn't care for Rory at all. He left when she was a baby, in the dictionary episode it's established that for 14 years he didn't visit his daughter in her own town, and they didn't get back together until she was an adult and therefore, out of their lives. He only wanted Lorelei, I don't know how she could date someone who doesn't love her daughter, ESPECIALLY when said daughter is also HIS.
I knowwww!!! I simply cannot compute how Lorelai was ever attracted to this man again. He was a deadbeat. Fullstop. He had many and resources, but never even gave _time_ to his daughter or her mother. Yes, Lorelai did not demand his support: she chose independence. However, as a father, Christopher shouldn't have to have been asked.
If you left me holding the baby "We are NEVER getting back together" in fact you can go straight to hell. Especially if you come crawling back after my child is grown.
I always got the impression Lorelei is partially responsible why Chris wasn't in his daughter life. She in fact wanted to raise her on her own. It is implied in one episode but she didn't want that .. should Chris should have tried harder to be involved with Rory? Absolutely but he is not entirely to blame
i knew i did NOT like lorelai when she was serious about beefing with a 16 year old who comes from a troubled background (jess). like that boy was trouble yes but he was a kid??? i hate how she refused to stop handling rory with kid gloves even at 18 but was ready to treat jess like he was a 30 year old who refuses to get his life together. shes a weirdo for that fr
11:26 circling around this, exactly how she genuinely expected Luke to choose her and Rory over his own nephew was crazy. I think it was when Lorelai's character really fell for me.
@@morlenenolwazidube7286 but that doesnt make her a bad character, when you think from a parent perspective, most parents would take this approach/ mindset from a parental defensiveness perspective, it sounds to me like you think a good charter has to be flawless. part of good writing is showing a multifaceted character which includes flaws, as well as realistic depictions of how situations are handled even if its not the most popular stance. it makes characters more human and relatable.
i didn't say that a good character has to be flawless. i said that it was so weird TO ME that lorelai decided that it was okay to beef w jess to the point of suggesting to luke that he should abandon his own nephew, esp considering jess' background. EYYYEEEE (as in my opinion) believe that lorelai was a terrible person for that. @@SydneyWilliams-e5h
The episode where a deer went out in front of the car while Jess was driving was the episode that made me start hating Lorelei. Jess was probably already shakeb up and felt really bad even though the crash was not his fault at all and all Lorelai want to do is call Luke and tell him instead of asking if Jess is ok as he also got into a car crash. The parent standpoint here doesn’t even excuse this, to be so incredibly selfish to call someone who just got into a wreck like that and berate them for a crash that they didn’t even cause is so incredibly selfish.
@@Lena-bu6zn yes it is. one can argue many people act selfishly in the heat of a given moment. those are what some would call realistic character flaws. stop hyper-analyzing a fictional character. Edit: you are analyzing her as if shes a real person and/ or needs to somehow justify her actions to the audience. or are you just complaining about the character? arguing about the character? cant tell.
Rory is the most entitled, self-centered person yet who grew up incredibly privileged, yes I acknowledge her mom has had it hard but they have literally been raised by the entire community, taken under their wing, never been without anything. Rory and Lorelai have been wrong SO MANY TIMES, and no one ever called them out on it.
I would argue Rory's depth comes in the later seasons, which is when most people start hating her character and wishing they had the old Rory back. I think your criticisms of her character being too "perfect" or unrealistic is very interesting considering that is part of what eventually leads to her "downfall". Many will say they became disappointed in how Rory turns out but I think, regardless of if she is likeable or not, she is one of the most realistic depictions of gifted kid burnout ever. I would be interested to see a follow up on this if you finish the show.
Absolutely! Gifted kid burnout for sure, but also just any kid hitting the job market post-2008 financial crash, let alone one working in journalism, a sector being decimated by losing ad money to social media. Triple whammy for Rory.
I actually really like Rory as a character. I often don’t agree with her choices, but I kind of liked seeing her make mistakes and struggling. To me the issue has always been that ASP wanted to tell a circular storyline where Rory essentially becomes Lorelai instead of examining the complexity of Rory’s own story. We all see and understand she has gifted kid burnout, but I don’t think ASP really understands what that is or how to explore that. I always thought a great way to take Rory’s storyline would have been to have her enter the workforce only to realize that the big master plan she’s been working toward this whole time isn’t what she actually wants to do and has to actually take the time to figure out what she wants and how to navigate that change. Instead we got the revival.
I dislike season 4-7 for a lot of reasons, but Rory was annoying thru out the entire show. It wasn't as if she was "better" pre college or anything. She still pissed me off in 1-3 as well
I have always hated Rory when watching this show. Without spoiling anything I will say that throughout the ENTIRE series Rory does a lot of terrible things and tries to defend them. The town and her mom usually back her up even when she's wrong and enforced that mindset. By the reboot Rory isn't even trying to justify her horrible behavior she just doesn't care as long as she gets what she wants. I've always been shocked to hear people defend her because the comment is always "everyone makes mistakes" but Rory does a lot of these bad things as an adult and continues to do them in the reboot.
loreli did not always back rory up on every decision. just have to say that. also - rory doesnt defend every single action, and she also has a great deal of remorse for many things as well. the reboot is another story - but just had to respond because your comment by itself sounds like a misrepresentation to me. and ive rewatched the series a few times now
i hated how everything came easily to her - became valedictorian and got into harvard even though paris worked ten times harder, had boys falling head over heels for her at every corner, always got away scot free even though she created messes everywhere. it just felt like a self insert fanfic of something
@@SydneyWilliams-e5h I’m not sure what show you’re watching if you think that’s true because throughout the entirety of Gilmore girls everyone in the entire town defends Rory for literally everything she does. Quite literally the only thing that Lorelei ever called her out for is homewrecking Dean’s marriage. Also, I’m not sure what remorse you’re seeing because Rory literally never felt bad for anything she did to anyone, she said that he was “her dean” when she homewrecked a marriage, she called a ballerina fat in an article and body shamed her and then was shocked when she got mad at her, let the whole town bad mouth dean over and over after their breakup not bothering once to mention what actually happened, let the town bully jess into moving, homewrecking logan’s marriage. Continues to body shame AND homewreck in the reboot. Like Rory all you want but don’t try to claim that she isn’t blatantly written as a super bad person. It’s a popular opinion for a reason. Actually, it’s not even a matter of opinion, this is just blatantly what happened in the show.
@@nostradamus1162 I agree something that bothered me about the show is the impracticality of a lot of it. Like I’ve noticed in a lot of scenes they will sit down to eat and get their food served and then Rory will get up and leave either before the food even gets there or right when it gets set down without eating.
@@Lena-bu6zn where in my response did i actually say rory is a "good" or flawless character? cause i literally never did. you dont need to spend time writing a paragraph to a stranger about a fictional tv show plot when i never even disagreed with you on the flaws of a given character to begin with. what i commented on and what you replied with are entirely different things. chill tf out.
This is why I always say I enjoy the characters, I don't like them. But to expand (rant incoming): My main beef with Lorelei is her relationship with Rory and how toxic they are while being painted as aspirational. She’s not that different to Emily. Harvard was Lorelei’s dream, not Rory’s, just like Yale was Emily’s dream for Lorelei. Lorelei’s overbearing immaturity forced out Rory’s perfectionism, hyper independence and shyness, so she doesn’t have any natural personality traits, and she’s constantly playing mom to Lorelei who, despite pushing her dreams onto her daughter, has almost no regard for Rory’s hard work and success, so there's no time or space for Rory's emotional growth. Look at how Lorelei showed up to Chilton on Rory's first day and then dated Rory’s teacher, knowing it would likely fail, and then moved onto Rory’s dad when it did. All of this after Rory had just switched schools, already a major change for an introvert, and was low-key bullied from day one while facing added pressure to succeed from her grandparents because of their financial help. Add to that the fact no one really sees her except through the lens of “like mother, like daughter” aka for the mere fact that she’s Lorelei’s child or due to her perfectionism, which is a trauma response caused by Lorelei’s bad parenting. There’s no room to find herself or become her own person because all the adults in her life insist she should be just like her mother, and so she does, just a watered down version, adopting all Lorelei’s worst habits while losing most of her own because she never got to grow up outside of the Lorelei bubble and because trauma looks different in adulthood
What makes you think that it was Lorelai's idea that Rory should go to Harvard? Also I don't see how Lorelai has no regard for Rory's hard work (I'm only at season 2 so far though, maybe I'll get it eventually)
@@kitsch_bitch Lorelai makes it clear time and time again that Harvard was "their" dream that "they" worked toward all Rory's life, which really means it's Lorelai's dream. Coz whenever Harvard came up, it was never Rory bragging about the journalism program specifically, it was just about getting into that specific school, no definite reason why. And a big part of choosing this school was for Lorelai to stick it to her Yale-legacy family. Remember her reaction when Rory told her grandparents she wanted to go to Yale - Lorelai told them off. Only reason she backed down was because she could still continue their unhealthy relationship dynamic if Rory chose Yale, coz she'd be close to home. And there's that episode of Season 2 where they actually go to Harvard and you can see the regret on Lorelai's face that she missed out on what will now be Rory's future, which is why she pushed her toward that future in the first place: to live vicariously through her daughter's achievements and figuratively stick her middle finger up at her parents at the same time
Lorelai is also a narcissistic controlling mother; she just has a cool girl style. She named Rory after herself and mapped out her whole life for her, just like Emily. She has a tantrum whenever Rory makes her own decisions, even about who to sleep with. She’s also weirdly controlling in her own romances, which is why Luke feels perfect to her. He’s like a prison boyfriend she gets to visit on her own terms at the diner, but he’s mostly trapped there and she just goes to see him when it’s convenient for her. The show is actually very well written that way as a character study of all these people; it’s just that it’s constantly hand-waving away what it’s showing as “this is awesome actually” and most people can’t see past the cozy lifestyle stuff and the overt supposed baddies and good guys. The dialogue and actors are awesome though.
That's true she decided who Rory is as a person. To her Rory is a character in the the soap opera that is her life. She acts like she is a scriptwriter or playing with a doll not a mother building a relationship with her child.
Unpopular opinion: Emily isn't a narcissist, she is just controlling. And the control comes from the class they are in. I think she wanted what was best for her daughter and went about it the wrong way. She was also the most disrespected, she had no one to defend her. Richard let his mom talk to her any kind of way and he also disrespected her. Lorelai and Rory also has disrespected her. The actual narcissist of Gilmore Girls was Rory. She treated everyone so poorly yet they all treated her like she was some delicate flower that could do no wrong
@@auntyamelia6906 a narcissist would have never let Richard mom treat them like that. Emily was mean but I think nowadays people throw around the word narcissist without knowing what it means. Being mean or controlling doesn’t equal narcissist. Mitchum was a narcissist.
@@auntyamelia6906 Sorry, no, that's not how a narc acts. Emily always looked out for everyone else but her. Otherwise, why put up with her mother in law? Why let Lorelai leave? Why not take Rory in? all of those things would've made HER look good, pushing her mother in law away to control the family, force Lorelai to continue an education in Yale to show the world she's a good mother, and taking Rory in to show everyone she's a good grandmother.
i think the main problem with the show is that the characters dont really get a redemption arc. flawed characters are nice, but if a show goes on for 7 seasons and the characters despite aging by 7 years still behave the same way and make the same mistakes, it becomes hard to root for them. u put up with their bullshit for 1, 2 hell even 3 seasons in the hope that surely they're gonna have a redemption arc, or get confronted or held accountable next, but they don't. lorelie & rory are the same throughout the 7 seasons and even into the reboot. they dont get better and they dont get worse either. it's just the same problems & same mistakes in different fonts. and nobody really acknowledges that they're terrible people or that they did something wrong, they're always put on a pedestal by the characters around them and by the writers as well where they want us to still root for them. and i find that interesting in contrast to other characters like luke, jess & logan who really grow and change a lot throughout the seasons.
I know the characters are deeper than that, but I hate how the show's writers made Rory's relationships parallel to Lorelai's. Rory saw her marriage to Logan in such a negative way, but unlike Lorelai she didn't choose to run away, she looked him in the eye and said no. Lorelai viewed relationships as a mess, and I believe this influenced Rory's decision. Ironically, Rory ended the show having an affair with the father of her child who was engaged to someone else, like Lorelai and Cristopher in season two. (let's face it, we know that Rory's baby's father is Logan).
I think Rory seems so bland because she literally has no idea who she actually is. She was always the hardworking overachiever and Lorelai’s daughter. There was always this master plan of going to Harvard, studying journalism, and eventually becoming a foreign correspondent, but even in season one it’s sort of hinted that this is more Lorelai’s plan than it is Rory’s. And while she does deviate from the plan slightly, for the most part she is very much on the path that has been laid out for her. But starting with her leaving for college, I think we start to see her begin to falter a bit. She has no idea who she is outside of being good at school and all the interests she’s kind of inherited from Lorelai, and there is, I think, a decent story in there about her having to figure out who she actually is and what she wants. But I don’t think the person writing the story is able to really handle those storylines (or is even interested in them). It’s sad really.
Stars Hollow seems to have some kind of festival every month, which is more than any town I've ever lived in. (We do have a lot of amateur theatre here, though, so there's that.)
pretty much escapism. like in TVD, but there its a tad more extreme. apart from the first two episodes you rarely see the school, while elena, bonnie, caroline,stefano and jeremy are supposed to be there fulltime
Yh how tf did they have some sort of a festival every month? Usually the festivals would have the weirdest names, like "pumpkin October festival" or "kirk film show festival" or "snow angel festival" 😭😭
@@1lovebaking Don't even get me started with that stupid "Why didn't you come?!" stuff. It was during moments like that that I cringed so bad I'd scream "STUPID SHOW!!" at the computer screen.
@@Gracefulgrace8307 RIGHT 😭 there was way too many times I'd cringe at stuff on screen. Like Rory and Dean randomly kissing When Lorelei would get mad at Jess for no good reason Especially how she couldn't stand Rory actually liking her grandparents? Or liking other people but her
Lorelei is an awful mother. She is more about being Rory's friend than being Rory's mother which is why Rory turned out the way she did. That said, it's not like Lorelei has any clue how to be a good mother. Her own mother is colder than the Arctic tundra. Valuing overrated, overpriced Ivy League schools, junk food, useless pop culture and vapid celeb gossip isn't it. Garbage. Rory was raised to value all the wrong things. She was raised by a rebellious spirit who raised her to value nothing but shallow garbage.
These are the things I love about it, the aesthetic, the motivation of Rory and Paris with their education earlier in seasons, and Tristan, and Lori’s ability to be a single mother badass, and the mother daughter relationship.
That is why the show (in my opinion) is so good! The main characters are realistic and very complex. They have great character development, even though sometimes is not for the best.
Yes, the problem occurs in the discrepancy. The show actively tries to paint Rory and Lorelai as the good, cool and chique characters. I watched the series years after it‘s release, just out of fun and the issues were glaring. That‘s why Rory gets annoying to watch, because her character gets worse, but they still try to paint her as this golden, cute teenager. There is no feel for her character arc in her downfall.
I don’t like Gilmore Girls either. The reason I don’t like it is because it reminds me too much of my relationship with my own mother, which is actually a bad thing because my mom gave me PTSD from treating me like her best friend instead of her child, which made me what psychologists call a “parentified” child, except that I was that scenario that you said where we actually lived with my grandma, and so I got both generations of trauma. This show is a study in generational trauma, which is important, but for some people, this show hits way too close to home. 💔
as a longtime Gilmore Girls & Lorelai fan, I love this! Most of the shows I watched I’m fully in support of a favorite character’s heroic (or antiheroic) actions, but Gilmore Girls is that rare show where I’m like, “Now what in the hell… is you doin….??” I think it’s because the stakes are so much lower, it feels safer to watch them get up to their various shenans. My only complaint right now is I wish this was absolutely longer! I love hearing people dissect shows/characters/motives/etc
Okay so there was this one moment when I hated Lorelai more than anything when Rory and Jess got in an accident she and the town blamed it on him, and got mad when he had a car
While it was obviously wrong of her to put the blame on him, take a step back and think about it for a second. Her daughter was in a car crash with somebody who she didn't want her hanging out with in the first place. The town obviously had no business talking about it, but Lorelai is her mother. Imagine your daughter was in a car crash with some guy who was rude to you, skips schooland gets into fights. What would you be thinking?
@@SilenaBeauregardisahero You know what was rude? Luke pushing Rory to tutor Jess, and when Lorelai said mulitple times that she did not feel comfortable with it, he kept insisting it would be okay. And then Jess, the same guy she told Luke she did NOT want Rory around, got her into a car crash that ended up with the car being totaled and Rory in the HOSPITAL. I would be pretty damn mad too, Luke obviously had that coming.
@@slsokaitis yes I agree Luke was wrong but you still shouldn’t put it all on a kid I can understand lorelai being upset but taking out on a kid is kinda childish
@@SilenaBeauregardisahero He did crash her car though. While I don't believe that it was fully his fault, Lorelai had no reason to believe that it wasn't. He had a reputation of skipping school and getting into fights. And not to mention when he was at Lorelai's house, he was EXTREMELY rude and disrespectful towards her. And I am team Jess, I just think that Lorelai wasn't wrong to say what she did.
I've watched Gilmore Girls frrom start to end and a lot of your character assessments are really accurate for the show continuing down the line in later seasons!! without putting in spoilers the best I can, I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that s1 is probably Loralei and Rory at their best tbh, s1 and s2 are the only ones I truly ever watch anymore. I can't wait to see your next commentary videos on gilmore girls and PLEASE do Ginny and Georgia it's kinda like watching a train crash imo
I've watched Gilmore Girls waaaayyyy too many times and I can say I have gone from liking Lorelei to hating her and back again, lol. I definitely have a different perspective on Lorelei now that I am older and a mother myself than when I was a single 20 year old when it first aired. Rory was kind of a blank page that worshiped her mom the first few seasons. Her character definitely got worse as she started developing a personality. Also: JUSTICE FOR LANE!
One major difference between Rory and Devi is that Devi get held accountable by her family, friends and system but Rory gets away with 90% of her actions and everyone hypes her up for her wrongdoings.
What do you think about how when Rory started ‘messing up’ Lorelai started pulling the mom card like ‘im your mom, what your doing isnt good, listen to me’ when for years she said ‘best friends first, mother and daughter second’ the switch did not work, years of being ‘best friends’ made it so Rory did not respect her mom as a parent
I actually don't think Emily is narcissistic. Abusive absolutely. I think she may have OCPD (not OCD) it's a separate disorder where you are very rigid. So if someone isn't there at the correct time they won't get dinner. That type of thing.
Found this video from my recommendations, and I’m glad I watched!!! Despite Gilmore girls being my favorite series atm, I can totally admit that there are a lot of flaws within each character and you hit EVERY point. I absolutely loved the comparison you made between Devi and Rory because that’s exactly how I feel. I can’t wait for you to finish the rest of the upcoming seasons!!!
do you mean paris?? there is no female character named devi in gilmore girls, there’s a guy named dave but no girl and it sounds like you’re talking about paris.
The thing is that none of the characters in the show is perfect and they're not supposed to be. They're supposed to be like real people, so of course they do dumb shit
I agree with everything you said. I'm currently watching it for the first time and the way I'm STRUGGLING through the second season.....I HATE every character. Every single one of them. They're all insufferable. But I'm determined to finish it.
Initially I liked Max and Lorelai as a couple but wasn't quite fond of how pushy Max got about that whole proposal thing and their break up made me sad. But as the show progressed I gotta say Max dodged a big bullet there.
I have some of the same opinions, but for Emily Gilmore, I think she does begin to realize her mistakes & actions and we get to see how damaged she is because of how she thinks she has to live. She sort of starts understanding Lorelei and Rory. I’ve only watched up until season 5 and that’s all I’ve seen of Emily Gilmore’s “character development”.
I have to disagree on the point that Emily is narcisistic - shes a great portrayal of the older generation before the baby boomers - you have been taught to always hide your feelings, dont talk about sad things, portray your life as perfect and dont portray yourself as a burden.
i started to dislike Rory when she made a big deal about Dean wanting his wife to cook for him.. that’s how he grew up(never heard dean insinuate that his parents were in a toxic relationship) VS Rory who grew the last 5 years with her single mom.. not all husbands are abusive and not all stay at home moms/wife are depressed and stressed out.. Lorelei gave what Emily lacked .. Lorelei was only a good parent emotionally but let’s be clear she never parented Rory and it shows badly.. Lorelei is a rich trust fund white woman that wanted to be a single poor mom so bad 😂 like be for real she really thought Rory was gonna get the scholarship💀💀in the words of Rory “i am a Gilmore my ancestors came on the Mayflower”😂😂💀💀
“Lorelai is a rich trust fund white woman that wanted to be a single poor mom so bad” … Take a step back… reassess, collect your marbles. Lorelai comes from a rich background. Surprise!! You may have forgotten the fact that she ALSO birthed a child at 16, ran away from home at 17 because she was being low key abused (I don’t care what your definition of abuse is, because you seem to have lost all empathy for no reason), lived in a POTTING SHED. A POTTING SHED. Raised her baby, while working as a maid at an Inn, lived there for 10 goddamn years until she’d saved enough money and gotten enough financial stability to get the Crap Shack (the house they live in during the show) which still had a lot of work done to it to make it livable. I’m sure Lorelai had a trust fund. Did she use that trust fund?? Did she throw herself into poverty and instability for the sake of her child?? Why are we ragging on a self-made (YES SEKF MADE. Her wealth very obviously didn’t matter when she literally ran away from it, taking nothing with her) woman who brought up a whole arse child (pretty damn well btw… Rory coulda turned out a LOT WORSE) while also working her arse off?? Why are you gate keeping poverty? Because she’s white? Because she’s independent? Because she grew up rich? Ridiculously cruel. Also, THATS when u starting disliking Rory?? Good lord.
Lorelai was a maid and lived in a shed raising her daughter when she was 17. I see what you're saying but considering she didn't even get to go to uni and didn't accept financial aid from her family until the show starts I simply disagree.
@@stuffwithsoph8264she didnt HAVE to do that. She choose that instead of taking her parents help because it came with strings, and she still had the same trust fund Rory did, she just couldnt access it til she was in her 20’s
I hate how people say Rory was perfect in the first season or was regarded as perfect and that’s why people stopped liking her later because she stopped being perfect Chilton Rory but she was never perfect. She was just an okay person in the first season. The only people who regarded her as perfect was her mom and people in her town. People stopped liking her later because she acted terrible at times or did unnecessarily dumb things that made no sense.
Luke may not be a genius but he’s not stupid either, the reason I think Lorelei and Luke are perfect for each other is that they’re both incredibly stubborn and smart and there relationship just beens that fire 🔥 or at least in my opinion yeah!.
Tried to watch this show as kind of a comfort show. (I'm a dude). And boy, my wife and I just started hate watching, because we couldn't believe the things they complain about. "I can't believe my mom wants to pay for my spoiled daughter's very expensive school!"
What bothers me about Lorelei too is the parentification of Rory, I physically cringe at that sometimes. I know she was 16 when she had her but man 😬 I love this show though, these characters are so very flawed but I still love it
Characters are not prefect, it's true But i just like to see smart young girls in media. Not only Rory but Paris who also wasn't perfect. They were interesting and somehow real. I literally can see my sister in Rory my classmate in Paris me in Lane. (ofc I talk mostly for 1-3 seasons) This is my favourite part of this show. Anyway thank you for your opinion :)
I love fall 🍁🍃🍂 which sounds like a great town to me, love Gilmore girls but even though besides the drama 🎭 especially the teenage drama 🎭, I love this series!,
I love Gilmore Girls as a whole. I still resonate with your points a lot. Maybe the fact, that the main characters aren't that likable is the reason, why the show is so great. Especially Lorelai is someone I like a lot but I am still constantly sitting there like "giiiiirl, what you doing???" For me, the most impressive character with the best character development is Paris. Hell, I love this girl so much. Highly competetive, aggressive, stubburn, deeply hurt. In comparission with Rory, Paris had to work hard to get at least a bit of attention from her parents. She wasn't constantly praised and cuddled. She literally work her ass of, still don't get into Harvard. But guess what, she fights through this as well, Rory on the other hand... The smallest obstacle is enough to throw her out of her way for months...
What do you think about Paris? I think she’s a character you would enjoy if you continued watching it. At first I didn’t like her rich, high achieving, miss know it all, mean self trying to start something with Rory who literally had no beef with her in the beginning but as the show progresses, you start to enjoy her more and learn about more about her family and all. And I like her sarcastic quips & her sassiness!
So for me GG is nostalgic. I was like 12-15 when it started for me. So I like to watch it now just as a comfort show. I think people barely watching it now have a different viewpoint so I get how the characters can be annoying. I love it regardless. Lol.
I grew up with a situation extremely similar to Gilmoire girls women dynamics (not the overwhelming wealth though, all of my family is working class). I lived with my mom who was like Lorelay was a “cool” mom and my grandma who was overly critical and emotionally unavailable. Bc of this I had to grow up real quick and parent my mother, being more like an older sister (I was so “mature” and my mom was so “young looking” (even tho she had me at 30) that we were confused for sisters all the damn time) as an only child while my grandma was a narcissist who wouldn’t communicate her anger but would gaslight gatekeep girlboss guilt trip all the damn time. I think that the reason I didn’t end up like Rory is bc I decided to get a personality and rebel and get involved in my community and just be grounded when it comes to how good I think I am (maybe some self-esteem issues, but eh). Idk mate, I just hate how Rory treats her bf (as someone who doesn’t even date, never dated, don’t want to rlly date necessarily as an aroace) and Lorelay and her just have a lot of hate towards women who try bc it comes easy to them (for many reasons, including wealth)
⚠️SPOILERS⚠️ As you watch the show more and more, Christopher comes back here and there to pursue Lorelei instead of being there for Rory. Rory addresses this but it’s crazy how Emily still preferred Christopher over Luke even though she knew everything going on between Lorelai and Christopher while Luke was physically and emotionally there for Rory as a father figure. He’s literally Rory’s dad. However, Emily is still iconic in her own right but she’s not only incredibly narcissistic but also extremely controlling in Lorelei’s adult life. Luckily, Emily changes a lot and her relationship with Lorelei actually gets better towards the end in the revival series
Yes to the title.. I do not get the hype but your intro gave me a better understanding of the appeal for others. I just finished watching it for the first time so I don’t really have the nostalgia feeling associated with it. I have many qualms with the characters LOL but I found Lorelei being so mad at her parents bc they wanted to give her money and nice things to better her life so puzzling. I did not grow up like her so I can’t relate at all but are there really people who can relate to this?? (not trying to be judgmental just seems so foreign from my pov).. super unpopular but I lowkey loved Richard and emily as the seasons progressed
someone i reallly dislike is luke. his clueless in s1-4. is meh but once they get together he becomes the archetype of snivelling controlling but distant boyfriend. like things he does are things he talked shit about and just his overall character is this self efacing man who things are happening to and he cant possibly make a decision. he pisses me off so bad
i know people find his boisterous outbursts amusing and funny but i have to say i hate it a lot. i know people interpret them as him being exasperated but it makes him look like an aggressive troglodyte and it always pisses me off.
Love your hair, and you have a great voice for audio. Idk what goes into reading audio books but I’d for sure listen to you read a book, hope that’s not weird lol you have an engaging voice and way of speaking
Lorelai Gilmore is an absolute pick me. She’s so darn shallow and selfish. She’s always taken people’s kindness for granted and has been a horrible mother to Rory. Also I do not understand the incessant need to keep her mother out of everything. She is absolutely mean and disrespectful towards her parents. And hates everything they do for her and Rory. Like Lorelai has no issue borrowing money from her parents but treats them like shit. Confuses Luke. Keeps beefing with Jess. Also never acts her age. She’s literally the worst Tv mom ever.
I 100% agree with everything you said & haha I knew you were going to bring up Devi when you were talking about a teenager with personality that makes mistakes lol. Also you just wait Rory in season 3 is a mess and I just started season 4.
One thing that irked me about Lorelei which i noticed in thenfirst episode and even she confirmed herself; she and Rory are besties first, then mother/daughter second. It did not seem she actually parented Rory but rather acted like a big sister's and let her get away with whatever
Every single character is impulsive and they all jump to conclusions and are stubborn. It pisses me off that some issues could've been solved if they had just said something to one another. Like when Jackson is mad at Sookie (I forgot why tbh) and he said they were in a fight but Sookie had NO IDEA he was even mad. No one communicates ever. Rory is spoiled, Lorelei SOMETIMES calls it out.
As an Asian girl myself, Lane as a character pains me the most… I like the show overall but it feels like majority of the characters are just there to inflate the egos of the main characters and that’s it. Lane’s friendship with Rory sometimes feels unilateral specially when we see the lack of interest from Rory towards lane’s life when it doesn’t directly involve her life. It also hurts to see that the actress Keiko Agena feels the same way about her character now, that lane ended up being too unidimensional and the stereotypical Asian side character who only serves the purpose of being the main character selfless best friend.
I agree! • Lorelai & Rory are Disney princesses & everyone else is an animal sidekick. • Seeing how POC are treated is WILD. There are so few people of color & I read somewhere that the white characters get to feel liberation (in work, in love, in sex) while the people of color never progress. Never get a happy ending.
I know I’m in the minority of the fandom but I love Emily. She’s my favorite character, problematic and all. I don’t like Lorelei or Rory at all really.
I get this. I think it's cos with Emily what you see is what you get. She is pretty open about who she is and how she operates. She also has a fair bit of character development. Lorelai and Rory, on the other hand, don't see how controlling and manipulative they are. They operate a facade to the world and seem to believe in it themselves so go about all smug and self righteous and butter wouldnt melt. At least Emily is who she claims to be, which is more likeable I think.
@@CD-qr7ec THIS! Yes that’s it. If she’s mean, she’s honest about it. If she has ulterior motives, it’s upfront. Lorelei and Rory are just as self centered as Emily and are low key mean girls that act like girls’ girls.
I do love to watch the show for remembering the lack of social media and how compared to some of todays shows - their noses aren’t buried in their phones, the language sounds better and smarter (usually) etc. And, I watch it for Suki! And Michel ! 😆 Although my favourite part is probably the relationship between Rory and Richard. I love grandparent/grandchild bonding. And I do have a soft spot for Emily and Lane’s mum - I know they’re not ideal but the other end of that is Lorelai who also isn’t?
Another reason why I don't looove the character Rory is linked to the actress' performance... it's undeniable how bad her performance is, zero emotion and feeling. period.
Gilmore Girls. The show that promises you quaint, quirky small-town charm and rapid-fire banter but actually serves up a lethal cocktail of stagnation and emotional quicksand. You sit down thinking you're about to experience a cozy corner of Americana, but before you know it, you're marooned in an alternate reality, lulled into a false sense of security by the chirpy residents of Stars Hollow. The endless drama-rife with love triangles, quirky coffee shop repartee, and predictable fall festivals-is a black hole that sucks all your energy into a vortex of nothingness. This is not just escapism; it's a trap, a delusion of life's fullness wrapped in coffee cups and mother-daughter bonding. And the worst part? It masquerades as sophisticated, witty, and emotionally rich storytelling, when it's really just the junk food of television-an aesthetic form of filler, aimed at providing just enough drama to keep you glued to the screen but never challenging enough to evoke real thought. Gilmore Girls takes you by the hand and leads you into a gentle fog, where nobody really gets hurt, and everything is resolved in 45 minutes. This syrupy mediocrity dulls the mind. You’re being spoon-fed the illusion that you're witnessing life unfold, but you're actually being coddled, sedated into a comforting hum of shallow, low-stakes melodrama. It teaches you that life’s problems are always fixable with a cup of coffee and a clever retort, leaving you unreceptive to the greater, grittier truths that really shape human experience. Why seek real social interaction when you can just live vicariously through Lorelai and Rory’s never-ending carousel of first-world problems? Gilmore Girls lures you into a false sense of intellectual engagement and emotional investment while wasting hours of your life on nothingness. You’re tricked into believing you’re consuming something of substance, but in reality, it’s an emotional placebo, numbing you to the complexities of the world outside your screen. It’s as if this sugary fluff pacifies you into believing you’re "living" without the messiness of real interaction, real conflict, and real growth. Worse yet, it fosters this strange sense of smugness. You, the viewer, start to feel like you’ve gained some grand insight into life, all because you've watched these characters go through their cozy little tribulations. But it’s all an illusion. You've been fed complacency wrapped in witty dialogue, and now you think you understand life. In reality, you’ve just been distracted long enough to forget that real happiness, real growth, and real understanding lie far outside the comfort of Stars Hollow. In the end, Gilmore Girls isn't just a time-suck-it's a numbing agent. It prevents you from seeking out the real world, from delving into life's complexities, and from truly engaging with the people around you. It leaves you lost in a haze of complacency, comfortable but hollow, emotionally invested but intellectually bankrupt.
I think what the show makers intended by making the titular characters "annoying" is their way of saying "we support women's wrongs" which was revolutionary at the time compared to the impossible societal imposted by society on women which is reflected in both Emily and Luke. While Emily always rejected Lorelei, Emily was just a product of her time, which is a mother who just wanted the best for her daughter who never dared to break out of her bubble have the awareness to actally understand Lorelei so she thought she was fixing her by patronizing her, while despite how Luke gets frustrated by Lorelei, he shows her the acceptance and support that her mother never gave her, which is what she was always looking for. Rory having also suffered from the lack of support from her dad echoes the same self reliance that Lorelei had passed down to Rory making it no coincidence that she would repeat her mother's mistakes.
Have you ever seen Dawson’s creek. It’s similar vibe to gilmore girls but it’s the teen/life story of Kevin Williamson. The guy who makes all those teen/small town horror. Example Scream movies and scream tv shows, the first 2 seasons of the vampire diaries, I know what you did last summer, etx. The show is about Dawson, teen who lives in quirky small town guy, coming of age, while also dreaming of one day going to Hollywood and make horror movies.
I don't get why everyone thinks the gilmore women are so special. They're pretty and are quirky, but everyone acts like they are perfect people. Actually, they tend to have complicated relationships with the opposite sex. They have learned that people will put them on a pedestal and let them get away with bad behavior. I connect with Luke and Jess. They are emotionally closed off to differing degrees. They are good at the core, and had to learn some lessons to become their best selves. Communication akills have to he learned.
I think this is a show that mostly appeals to high school level girls, at the most. Honestly when I got to my early twenties, I looked back on the show and realized how unrelatable to me Rory and Lorelai actually were, despite feeling a deep connection to Rory when I was younger.
I just feel she just wanted better for her daughter ,she want her daughter to be better than her and not follow her footsteps same as me I had my daughter at 16 me she’s now 19 all I want is better for her in always talk to her in be understanding because I didn’t have that with my mom ❤so I get her point on how she is with rory but i don’t Ike her be Rory be municipally these men
My lil butt ran to this video!! I was like please tell me that I'm not crazy!!! I can only get through like the first few seasons then I'm done. I just don't click with this show.
you’re so bold for making this video after only watching 2 seasons 😭😭😭 i don’t blame you tho i HATED the gilmore girls esp lorelai during szn 1 i almost gave up watching the show entirely but you really gotta push thru i felt so differently about them by the end!!! i hope you’ve finished it by now hehe
I love GG. I have binged it so many times, especially when I'm at work (I work nights), but Lorelei only gets away with her annoying, perky, pick-me attitude because she lives in a small town. If she lived in New York, for example, someone would have told her to shut the f up by now.
I think most of the characters on GG are pretty awful, but that's honestly, that's what I like about the show. To me, the show is about villains who don't realize they're villains. It's like the Kardashians, but with interesting storylines (I'm basing this off of the three episodes of KUWTK that I saw like 10 years ago, so if I'm wrong about the show having storylines, my bad). Emily, Lorelei, and Rory are very similar people, but their differences make those similarities play out in wildly different ways...if that makes sense. Like, they all have narcissistic tendencies, but in different ways. Forgive my rambling. It's late and I just took a melatonin.
I have one question lol.. who is Davey? is that from a different show? Cause the only Davey I know in Gilmore Girls is Sukis son... Well that I think Lane's boyfriend from her band is named Dave.. I think.. lol. Just curious. Unless I heard her wrong.. then sorry lol.
Lorelai acts like Emily A LOT of time, only she doesn´t see it, and so pushes the same control onto rory that her mother did onto her, but with the bonus that rory and lorelai are best friends so it´s even more of a mess. You have to trust your parents but your parents cannot be your friends. Also, during the whole show there´s this dynamic of rory being the rational one and more ¨¨´¨grown up¨¨¨¨ and lorelai being more whimsical and free spirited, reverting the usual roles parents and teenagers have, lorelai only uses her parent card when rory does something that she specifically doesn´t like but not everytime rory does something wrong. Idk, they piss me off a lot, but I get that is on purpose so I keep watching, sometimes my eye is twitching tho. The last thing I want to say is that for me the episode with the termites was wild, how are you gonna let your own house with your kid inside crumble because you are too stubborn?????
I have so many controversial opinions about this show and it's characters but somehow it's the one piece of media that I can just say "oh well, it's just like that" and enjoy it anyway. Idk there's some magic hold it has over everyone
Rory Gilmore’s character will make sense right at the end of the seasons right at the end of the reunion season. Because she is absorbing everything from her grandparents everything from her mother and how the community treat her. She gets to her 20s and 30s and starts acting like she can get anything she wants no matter the feet she treads on. And basically just a reincarnation of all three personalities from her grandparents and parent. She gets messy but it’s annoying because she’s like an adult and she’s messy. It removes the fun useful messiness that a lot of teams go through. Maybe it was meant to show how messy her environment was or how out of control she was of her own situation.🤷🏾♀️
I think the reason you feel nothing during Rory’s emotional scenes is because Alexis isn’t a very good actress. She’s just very stiff. I think they chose her for her looks and not her acting ability. Just my opinion
The most annoying thing about Lorelei and Christopher getting back together was that Christopher obviously didn't care for Rory at all. He left when she was a baby, in the dictionary episode it's established that for 14 years he didn't visit his daughter in her own town, and they didn't get back together until she was an adult and therefore, out of their lives. He only wanted Lorelei, I don't know how she could date someone who doesn't love her daughter, ESPECIALLY when said daughter is also HIS.
This!
I knowwww!!! I simply cannot compute how Lorelai was ever attracted to this man again. He was a deadbeat. Fullstop. He had many and resources, but never even gave _time_ to his daughter or her mother. Yes, Lorelai did not demand his support: she chose independence. However, as a father, Christopher shouldn't have to have been asked.
If you left me holding the baby "We are NEVER getting back together" in fact you can go straight to hell. Especially if you come crawling back after my child is grown.
I always got the impression Lorelei is partially responsible why Chris wasn't in his daughter life. She in fact wanted to raise her on her own. It is implied in one episode but she didn't want that .. should Chris should have tried harder to be involved with Rory? Absolutely but he is not entirely to blame
I hated how he demanded respect when he was the biggest deadbeat "dad"
Lorelai has a very avoidant communication style. She just avoids her problems instead of facing them head on.
She does try with her mother a few times (mostly fruitlessly) and her dad, and with Rory.
@@HuntingViolets yeah her and lukes relationship is frustrating though, cause they dont communicate properly.
And if this show is about money struggle, which she actually faced a couple of times, the plot would haven been so much different 😂
Honestly just like me with same type of parents. Doesn’t mean it’s all their fault but it’s a factor for a kid who hates conflicts
dismissive avoidant for sure
just wait until rorys college years in the later seasons 😭
I just got to season four now I'm scared 😭
i knew i did NOT like lorelai when she was serious about beefing with a 16 year old who comes from a troubled background (jess). like that boy was trouble yes but he was a kid??? i hate how she refused to stop handling rory with kid gloves even at 18 but was ready to treat jess like he was a 30 year old who refuses to get his life together. shes a weirdo for that fr
11:26 circling around this, exactly how she genuinely expected Luke to choose her and Rory over his own nephew was crazy. I think it was when Lorelai's character really fell for me.
@@morlenenolwazidube7286 but that doesnt make her a bad character, when you think from a parent perspective, most parents would take this approach/ mindset from a parental defensiveness perspective, it sounds to me like you think a good charter has to be flawless. part of good writing is showing a multifaceted character which includes flaws, as well as realistic depictions of how situations are handled even if its not the most popular stance. it makes characters more human and relatable.
i didn't say that a good character has to be flawless. i said that it was so weird TO ME that lorelai decided that it was okay to beef w jess to the point of suggesting to luke that he should abandon his own nephew, esp considering jess' background. EYYYEEEE (as in my opinion) believe that lorelai was a terrible person for that. @@SydneyWilliams-e5h
The episode where a deer went out in front of the car while Jess was driving was the episode that made me start hating Lorelei. Jess was probably already shakeb up and felt really bad even though the crash was not his fault at all and all Lorelai want to do is call Luke and tell him instead of asking if Jess is ok as he also got into a car crash. The parent standpoint here doesn’t even excuse this, to be so incredibly selfish to call someone who just got into a wreck like that and berate them for a crash that they didn’t even cause is so incredibly selfish.
@@Lena-bu6zn yes it is. one can argue many people act selfishly in the heat of a given moment. those are what some would call realistic character flaws. stop hyper-analyzing a fictional character. Edit: you are analyzing her as if shes a real person and/ or needs to somehow justify her actions to the audience. or are you just complaining about the character? arguing about the character? cant tell.
Rory is the most entitled, self-centered person yet who grew up incredibly privileged, yes I acknowledge her mom has had it hard but they have literally been raised by the entire community, taken under their wing, never been without anything. Rory and Lorelai have been wrong SO MANY TIMES, and no one ever called them out on it.
people dream of such a life
I would argue Rory's depth comes in the later seasons, which is when most people start hating her character and wishing they had the old Rory back. I think your criticisms of her character being too "perfect" or unrealistic is very interesting considering that is part of what eventually leads to her "downfall". Many will say they became disappointed in how Rory turns out but I think, regardless of if she is likeable or not, she is one of the most realistic depictions of gifted kid burnout ever. I would be interested to see a follow up on this if you finish the show.
Absolutely! Gifted kid burnout for sure, but also just any kid hitting the job market post-2008 financial crash, let alone one working in journalism, a sector being decimated by losing ad money to social media. Triple whammy for Rory.
I actually really like Rory as a character. I often don’t agree with her choices, but I kind of liked seeing her make mistakes and struggling. To me the issue has always been that ASP wanted to tell a circular storyline where Rory essentially becomes Lorelai instead of examining the complexity of Rory’s own story. We all see and understand she has gifted kid burnout, but I don’t think ASP really understands what that is or how to explore that. I always thought a great way to take Rory’s storyline would have been to have her enter the workforce only to realize that the big master plan she’s been working toward this whole time isn’t what she actually wants to do and has to actually take the time to figure out what she wants and how to navigate that change. Instead we got the revival.
I dislike season 4-7 for a lot of reasons, but Rory was annoying thru out the entire show. It wasn't as if she was "better" pre college or anything. She still pissed me off in 1-3 as well
She was a terrible friend in the older seasons anyway. They were only there for her to vent, but when it was her turn, she bails.
I have always hated Rory when watching this show. Without spoiling anything I will say that throughout the ENTIRE series Rory does a lot of terrible things and tries to defend them. The town and her mom usually back her up even when she's wrong and enforced that mindset. By the reboot Rory isn't even trying to justify her horrible behavior she just doesn't care as long as she gets what she wants. I've always been shocked to hear people defend her because the comment is always "everyone makes mistakes" but Rory does a lot of these bad things as an adult and continues to do them in the reboot.
loreli did not always back rory up on every decision. just have to say that. also - rory doesnt defend every single action, and she also has a great deal of remorse for many things as well. the reboot is another story - but just had to respond because your comment by itself sounds like a misrepresentation to me. and ive rewatched the series a few times now
i hated how everything came easily to her - became valedictorian and got into harvard even though paris worked ten times harder, had boys falling head over heels for her at every corner, always got away scot free even though she created messes everywhere. it just felt like a self insert fanfic of something
@@SydneyWilliams-e5h I’m not sure what show you’re watching if you think that’s true because throughout the entirety of Gilmore girls everyone in the entire town defends Rory for literally everything she does. Quite literally the only thing that Lorelei ever called her out for is homewrecking Dean’s marriage. Also, I’m not sure what remorse you’re seeing because Rory literally never felt bad for anything she did to anyone, she said that he was “her dean” when she homewrecked a marriage, she called a ballerina fat in an article and body shamed her and then was shocked when she got mad at her, let the whole town bad mouth dean over and over after their breakup not bothering once to mention what actually happened, let the town bully jess into moving, homewrecking logan’s marriage. Continues to body shame AND homewreck in the reboot. Like Rory all you want but don’t try to claim that she isn’t blatantly written as a super bad person. It’s a popular opinion for a reason. Actually, it’s not even a matter of opinion, this is just blatantly what happened in the show.
@@nostradamus1162 I agree something that bothered me about the show is the impracticality of a lot of it. Like I’ve noticed in a lot of scenes they will sit down to eat and get their food served and then Rory will get up and leave either before the food even gets there or right when it gets set down without eating.
@@Lena-bu6zn where in my response did i actually say rory is a "good" or flawless character? cause i literally never did. you dont need to spend time writing a paragraph to a stranger about a fictional tv show plot when i never even disagreed with you on the flaws of a given character to begin with. what i commented on and what you replied with are entirely different things. chill tf out.
Emily Glimore - Gaslight
Lorelai Gilmore - Gatekeep
Rory Gilmore - Girlboss
This is why I always say I enjoy the characters, I don't like them. But to expand (rant incoming): My main beef with Lorelei is her relationship with Rory and how toxic they are while being painted as aspirational. She’s not that different to Emily. Harvard was Lorelei’s dream, not Rory’s, just like Yale was Emily’s dream for Lorelei. Lorelei’s overbearing immaturity forced out Rory’s perfectionism, hyper independence and shyness, so she doesn’t have any natural personality traits, and she’s constantly playing mom to Lorelei who, despite pushing her dreams onto her daughter, has almost no regard for Rory’s hard work and success, so there's no time or space for Rory's emotional growth. Look at how Lorelei showed up to Chilton on Rory's first day and then dated Rory’s teacher, knowing it would likely fail, and then moved onto Rory’s dad when it did. All of this after Rory had just switched schools, already a major change for an introvert, and was low-key bullied from day one while facing added pressure to succeed from her grandparents because of their financial help. Add to that the fact no one really sees her except through the lens of “like mother, like daughter” aka for the mere fact that she’s Lorelei’s child or due to her perfectionism, which is a trauma response caused by Lorelei’s bad parenting. There’s no room to find herself or become her own person because all the adults in her life insist she should be just like her mother, and so she does, just a watered down version, adopting all Lorelei’s worst habits while losing most of her own because she never got to grow up outside of the Lorelei bubble and because trauma looks different in adulthood
amazing, so well put thank you
I was thinking the same throughout first seasons. You just put it so well into words❤❤
This is exactly what the show is about. I do not get why it sounds like people want to like the characters.
What makes you think that it was Lorelai's idea that Rory should go to Harvard? Also I don't see how Lorelai has no regard for Rory's hard work (I'm only at season 2 so far though, maybe I'll get it eventually)
@@kitsch_bitch Lorelai makes it clear time and time again that Harvard was "their" dream that "they" worked toward all Rory's life, which really means it's Lorelai's dream. Coz whenever Harvard came up, it was never Rory bragging about the journalism program specifically, it was just about getting into that specific school, no definite reason why. And a big part of choosing this school was for Lorelai to stick it to her Yale-legacy family. Remember her reaction when Rory told her grandparents she wanted to go to Yale - Lorelai told them off. Only reason she backed down was because she could still continue their unhealthy relationship dynamic if Rory chose Yale, coz she'd be close to home. And there's that episode of Season 2 where they actually go to Harvard and you can see the regret on Lorelai's face that she missed out on what will now be Rory's future, which is why she pushed her toward that future in the first place: to live vicariously through her daughter's achievements and figuratively stick her middle finger up at her parents at the same time
Lorelai is also a narcissistic controlling mother; she just has a cool girl style. She named Rory after herself and mapped out her whole life for her, just like Emily. She has a tantrum whenever Rory makes her own decisions, even about who to sleep with.
She’s also weirdly controlling in her own romances, which is why Luke feels perfect to her. He’s like a prison boyfriend she gets to visit on her own terms at the diner, but he’s mostly trapped there and she just goes to see him when it’s convenient for her.
The show is actually very well written that way as a character study of all these people; it’s just that it’s constantly hand-waving away what it’s showing as “this is awesome actually” and most people can’t see past the cozy lifestyle stuff and the overt supposed baddies and good guys.
The dialogue and actors are awesome though.
NOT a prison boyfriend! You’re totally right, I see it now 😂
100%
That's true she decided who Rory is as a person. To her Rory is a character in the the soap opera that is her life. She acts like she is a scriptwriter or playing with a doll not a mother building a relationship with her child.
Tbh i like that unintentional detail because it shows the generational trauma of the gilmore girls
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Unpopular opinion: Emily isn't a narcissist, she is just controlling. And the control comes from the class they are in. I think she wanted what was best for her daughter and went about it the wrong way. She was also the most disrespected, she had no one to defend her. Richard let his mom talk to her any kind of way and he also disrespected her. Lorelai and Rory also has disrespected her. The actual narcissist of Gilmore Girls was Rory. She treated everyone so poorly yet they all treated her like she was some delicate flower that could do no wrong
*she's a narcissist
@@auntyamelia6906 a narcissist would have never let Richard mom treat them like that. Emily was mean but I think nowadays people throw around the word narcissist without knowing what it means. Being mean or controlling doesn’t equal narcissist. Mitchum was a narcissist.
@@auntyamelia6906 Sorry, no, that's not how a narc acts. Emily always looked out for everyone else but her. Otherwise, why put up with her mother in law? Why let Lorelai leave? Why not take Rory in? all of those things would've made HER look good, pushing her mother in law away to control the family, force Lorelai to continue an education in Yale to show the world she's a good mother, and taking Rory in to show everyone she's a good grandmother.
clock it omfg i hate mf who throw around the word narcissist and act like an armchair psychologist
i think the main problem with the show is that the characters dont really get a redemption arc. flawed characters are nice, but if a show goes on for 7 seasons and the characters despite aging by 7 years still behave the same way and make the same mistakes, it becomes hard to root for them. u put up with their bullshit for 1, 2 hell even 3 seasons in the hope that surely they're gonna have a redemption arc, or get confronted or held accountable next, but they don't. lorelie & rory are the same throughout the 7 seasons and even into the reboot. they dont get better and they dont get worse either. it's just the same problems & same mistakes in different fonts. and nobody really acknowledges that they're terrible people or that they did something wrong, they're always put on a pedestal by the characters around them and by the writers as well where they want us to still root for them. and i find that interesting in contrast to other characters like luke, jess & logan who really grow and change a lot throughout the seasons.
Yes!❤
thank you!! 👌👌👌
The way I got BUTCHERED for making a video saying i didn't like the show
Glad to find my people here 😂
I know the characters are deeper than that, but I hate how the show's writers made Rory's relationships parallel to Lorelai's. Rory saw her marriage to Logan in such a negative way, but unlike Lorelai she didn't choose to run away, she looked him in the eye and said no. Lorelai viewed relationships as a mess, and I believe this influenced Rory's decision.
Ironically, Rory ended the show having an affair with the father of her child who was engaged to someone else, like Lorelai and Cristopher in season two.
(let's face it, we know that Rory's baby's father is Logan).
Yes he is. Someone from the show later said that he is.
I suppose the one bright side is that it's implied she doesn't want Logan in her baby's life 😅
I think Rory seems so bland because she literally has no idea who she actually is. She was always the hardworking overachiever and Lorelai’s daughter. There was always this master plan of going to Harvard, studying journalism, and eventually becoming a foreign correspondent, but even in season one it’s sort of hinted that this is more Lorelai’s plan than it is Rory’s. And while she does deviate from the plan slightly, for the most part she is very much on the path that has been laid out for her. But starting with her leaving for college, I think we start to see her begin to falter a bit. She has no idea who she is outside of being good at school and all the interests she’s kind of inherited from Lorelai, and there is, I think, a decent story in there about her having to figure out who she actually is and what she wants. But I don’t think the person writing the story is able to really handle those storylines (or is even interested in them). It’s sad really.
Stars Hollow seems to have some kind of festival every month, which is more than any town I've ever lived in. (We do have a lot of amateur theatre here, though, so there's that.)
pretty much escapism. like in TVD, but there its a tad more extreme. apart from the first two episodes you rarely see the school, while elena, bonnie, caroline,stefano and jeremy are supposed to be there fulltime
Yh how tf did they have some sort of a festival every month? Usually the festivals would have the weirdest names, like "pumpkin October festival" or "kirk film show festival" or "snow angel festival" 😭😭
@@Gracefulgrace8307right? Then that one guy who got mad if you didn't come 😭
@@1lovebaking Don't even get me started with that stupid "Why didn't you come?!" stuff. It was during moments like that that I cringed so bad I'd scream "STUPID SHOW!!" at the computer screen.
@@Gracefulgrace8307 RIGHT 😭
there was way too many times I'd cringe at stuff on screen.
Like Rory and Dean randomly kissing
When Lorelei would get mad at Jess for no good reason
Especially how she couldn't stand Rory actually liking her grandparents? Or liking other people but her
Lorelei is an awful mother. She is more about being Rory's friend than being Rory's mother which is why Rory turned out the way she did. That said, it's not like Lorelei has any clue how to be a good mother. Her own mother is colder than the Arctic tundra.
Valuing overrated, overpriced Ivy League schools, junk food, useless pop culture and vapid celeb gossip isn't it. Garbage. Rory was raised to value all the wrong things. She was raised by a rebellious spirit who raised her to value nothing but shallow garbage.
These are the things I love about it, the aesthetic, the motivation of Rory and Paris with their education earlier in seasons, and Tristan, and Lori’s ability to be a single mother badass, and the mother daughter relationship.
I agree it has some good qualities too. :-)
That is why the show (in my opinion) is so good! The main characters are realistic and very complex. They have great character development, even though sometimes is not for the best.
Nah at some point the skip button starts to look atractive because the characters just become worse overtime.
Yes, the problem occurs in the discrepancy. The show actively tries to paint Rory and Lorelai as the good, cool and chique characters.
I watched the series years after it‘s release, just out of fun and the issues were glaring. That‘s why Rory gets annoying to watch, because her character gets worse, but they still try to paint her as this golden, cute teenager. There is no feel for her character arc in her downfall.
I don’t like Gilmore Girls either. The reason I don’t like it is because it reminds me too much of my relationship with my own mother, which is actually a bad thing because my mom gave me PTSD from treating me like her best friend instead of her child, which made me what psychologists call a “parentified” child, except that I was that scenario that you said where we actually lived with my grandma, and so I got both generations of trauma. This show is a study in generational trauma, which is important, but for some people, this show hits way too close to home. 💔
as a longtime Gilmore Girls & Lorelai fan, I love this! Most of the shows I watched I’m fully in support of a favorite character’s heroic (or antiheroic) actions, but Gilmore Girls is that rare show where I’m like, “Now what in the hell… is you doin….??” I think it’s because the stakes are so much lower, it feels safer to watch them get up to their various shenans.
My only complaint right now is I wish this was absolutely longer! I love hearing people dissect shows/characters/motives/etc
Okay so there was this one moment when I hated Lorelai more than anything when Rory and Jess got in an accident she and the town blamed it on him, and got mad when he had a car
While it was obviously wrong of her to put the blame on him, take a step back and think about it for a second. Her daughter was in a car crash with somebody who she didn't want her hanging out with in the first place. The town obviously had no business talking about it, but Lorelai is her mother. Imagine your daughter was in a car crash with some guy who was rude to you, skips schooland gets into fights. What would you be thinking?
@@slsokaitisyes but you don’t complain about it TO THEIR GUARDIAN THATS RUDE
@@SilenaBeauregardisahero You know what was rude? Luke pushing Rory to tutor Jess, and when Lorelai said mulitple times that she did not feel comfortable with it, he kept insisting it would be okay. And then Jess, the same guy she told Luke she did NOT want Rory around, got her into a car crash that ended up with the car being totaled and Rory in the HOSPITAL. I would be pretty damn mad too, Luke obviously had that coming.
@@slsokaitis yes I agree Luke was wrong but you still shouldn’t put it all on a kid I can understand lorelai being upset but taking out on a kid is kinda childish
@@SilenaBeauregardisahero He did crash her car though. While I don't believe that it was fully his fault, Lorelai had no reason to believe that it wasn't. He had a reputation of skipping school and getting into fights. And not to mention when he was at Lorelai's house, he was EXTREMELY rude and disrespectful towards her. And I am team Jess, I just think that Lorelai wasn't wrong to say what she did.
I've watched Gilmore Girls frrom start to end and a lot of your character assessments are really accurate for the show continuing down the line in later seasons!! without putting in spoilers the best I can, I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that s1 is probably Loralei and Rory at their best tbh, s1 and s2 are the only ones I truly ever watch anymore. I can't wait to see your next commentary videos on gilmore girls and PLEASE do Ginny and Georgia it's kinda like watching a train crash imo
I've watched Gilmore Girls waaaayyyy too many times and I can say I have gone from liking Lorelei to hating her and back again, lol. I definitely have a different perspective on Lorelei now that I am older and a mother myself than when I was a single 20 year old when it first aired. Rory was kind of a blank page that worshiped her mom the first few seasons. Her character definitely got worse as she started developing a personality. Also: JUSTICE FOR LANE!
One major difference between Rory and Devi is that Devi get held accountable by her family, friends and system but Rory gets away with 90% of her actions and everyone hypes her up for her wrongdoings.
That's Indian parenting for you 😅😂😂😭
Never watched Gilmore girls because I felt like the self-centredness would annoy me
What do you think about how when Rory started ‘messing up’ Lorelai started pulling the mom card like ‘im your mom, what your doing isnt good, listen to me’ when for years she said ‘best friends first, mother and daughter second’ the switch did not work, years of being ‘best friends’ made it so Rory did not respect her mom as a parent
I actually don't think Emily is narcissistic. Abusive absolutely. I think she may have OCPD (not OCD) it's a separate disorder where you are very rigid. So if someone isn't there at the correct time they won't get dinner. That type of thing.
Found this video from my recommendations, and I’m glad I watched!!! Despite Gilmore girls being my favorite series atm, I can totally admit that there are a lot of flaws within each character and you hit EVERY point. I absolutely loved the comparison you made between Devi and Rory because that’s exactly how I feel. I can’t wait for you to finish the rest of the upcoming seasons!!!
do you mean paris?? there is no female character named devi in gilmore girls, there’s a guy named dave but no girl and it sounds like you’re talking about paris.
@@gh0ulgirl I’m talking about Devi from Never have I ever! In the video she compares that character to Rory!
The thing is that none of the characters in the show is perfect and they're not supposed to be. They're supposed to be like real people, so of course they do dumb shit
I agree with everything you said. I'm currently watching it for the first time and the way I'm STRUGGLING through the second season.....I HATE every character. Every single one of them. They're all insufferable. But I'm determined to finish it.
did you finish? i believe you should not suffer through something you dislike in your free time, but if you did... im intruiged
Unfortunately, no I didn't lol. It's been 4 months since I made that comment, what a shame. Maybe I'm just not the target audience. @@betelgeux6010
deborah i audibly gasped at the title
Initially I liked Max and Lorelai as a couple but wasn't quite fond of how pushy Max got about that whole proposal thing and their break up made me sad. But as the show progressed I gotta say Max dodged a big bullet there.
I have some of the same opinions, but for Emily Gilmore, I think she does begin to realize her mistakes & actions and we get to see how damaged she is because of how she thinks she has to live. She sort of starts understanding Lorelei and Rory. I’ve only watched up until season 5 and that’s all I’ve seen of Emily Gilmore’s “character development”.
Luke is the BEST character of this show
I have to disagree on the point that Emily is narcisistic - shes a great portrayal of the older generation before the baby boomers - you have been taught to always hide your feelings, dont talk about sad things, portray your life as perfect and dont portray yourself as a burden.
i started to dislike Rory when she made a big deal about Dean wanting his wife to cook for him.. that’s how he grew up(never heard dean insinuate that his parents were in a toxic relationship) VS Rory who grew the last 5 years with her single mom.. not all husbands are abusive and not all stay at home moms/wife are depressed and stressed out..
Lorelei gave what Emily lacked .. Lorelei was only a good parent emotionally but let’s be clear she never parented Rory and it shows badly.. Lorelei is a rich trust fund white woman that wanted to be a single poor mom so bad 😂 like be for real she really thought Rory was gonna get the scholarship💀💀in the words of Rory “i am a Gilmore my ancestors came on the Mayflower”😂😂💀💀
“Lorelai is a rich trust fund white woman that wanted to be a single poor mom so bad”
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Take a step back… reassess, collect your marbles.
Lorelai comes from a rich background. Surprise!! You may have forgotten the fact that she ALSO birthed a child at 16, ran away from home at 17 because she was being low key abused (I don’t care what your definition of abuse is, because you seem to have lost all empathy for no reason), lived in a POTTING SHED. A POTTING SHED. Raised her baby, while working as a maid at an Inn, lived there for 10 goddamn years until she’d saved enough money and gotten enough financial stability to get the Crap Shack (the house they live in during the show) which still had a lot of work done to it to make it livable.
I’m sure Lorelai had a trust fund. Did she use that trust fund?? Did she throw herself into poverty and instability for the sake of her child?? Why are we ragging on a self-made (YES SEKF MADE. Her wealth very obviously didn’t matter when she literally ran away from it, taking nothing with her) woman who brought up a whole arse child (pretty damn well btw… Rory coulda turned out a LOT WORSE) while also working her arse off?? Why are you gate keeping poverty? Because she’s white? Because she’s independent? Because she grew up rich? Ridiculously cruel.
Also, THATS when u starting disliking Rory?? Good lord.
Lorelai was a maid and lived in a shed raising her daughter when she was 17. I see what you're saying but considering she didn't even get to go to uni and didn't accept financial aid from her family until the show starts I simply disagree.
@@stuffwithsoph8264she didnt HAVE to do that. She choose that instead of taking her parents help because it came with strings, and she still had the same trust fund Rory did, she just couldnt access it til she was in her 20’s
Please do more of these as you progress through the show
I AGREE
I AGREE i would also look forward to it❤❤
I hate how people say Rory was perfect in the first season or was regarded as perfect and that’s why people stopped liking her later because she stopped being perfect Chilton Rory but she was never perfect. She was just an okay person in the first season. The only people who regarded her as perfect was her mom and people in her town. People stopped liking her later because she acted terrible at times or did unnecessarily dumb things that made no sense.
Luke may not be a genius but he’s not stupid either, the reason I think Lorelei and Luke are perfect for each other is that they’re both incredibly stubborn and smart and there relationship just beens that fire 🔥 or at least in my opinion yeah!.
Tried to watch this show as kind of a comfort show. (I'm a dude). And boy, my wife and I just started hate watching, because we couldn't believe the things they complain about. "I can't believe my mom wants to pay for my spoiled daughter's very expensive school!"
What bothers me about Lorelei too is the parentification of Rory, I physically cringe at that sometimes. I know she was 16 when she had her but man 😬
I love this show though, these characters are so very flawed but I still love it
Characters are not prefect, it's true
But i just like to see smart young girls in media. Not only Rory but Paris who also wasn't perfect. They were interesting and somehow real. I literally can see my sister in Rory my classmate in Paris me in Lane. (ofc I talk mostly for 1-3 seasons) This is my favourite part of this show. Anyway thank you for your opinion :)
I love fall 🍁🍃🍂 which sounds like a great town to me, love Gilmore girls but even though besides the drama 🎭 especially the teenage drama 🎭, I love this series!,
I love Gilmore Girls as a whole. I still resonate with your points a lot. Maybe the fact, that the main characters aren't that likable is the reason, why the show is so great. Especially Lorelai is someone I like a lot but I am still constantly sitting there like "giiiiirl, what you doing???"
For me, the most impressive character with the best character development is Paris. Hell, I love this girl so much. Highly competetive, aggressive, stubburn, deeply hurt. In comparission with Rory, Paris had to work hard to get at least a bit of attention from her parents. She wasn't constantly praised and cuddled. She literally work her ass of, still don't get into Harvard. But guess what, she fights through this as well, Rory on the other hand... The smallest obstacle is enough to throw her out of her way for months...
pls do more commentaries I love to see it!
What do you think about Paris? I think she’s a character you would enjoy if you continued watching it. At first I didn’t like her rich, high achieving, miss know it all, mean self trying to start something with Rory who literally had no beef with her in the beginning but as the show progresses, you start to enjoy her more and learn about more about her family and all. And I like her sarcastic quips & her sassiness!
So for me GG is nostalgic. I was like 12-15 when it started for me. So I like to watch it now just as a comfort show. I think people barely watching it now have a different viewpoint so I get how the characters can be annoying. I love it regardless. Lol.
I grew up with a situation extremely similar to Gilmoire girls women dynamics (not the overwhelming wealth though, all of my family is working class). I lived with my mom who was like Lorelay was a “cool” mom and my grandma who was overly critical and emotionally unavailable. Bc of this I had to grow up real quick and parent my mother, being more like an older sister (I was so “mature” and my mom was so “young looking” (even tho she had me at 30) that we were confused for sisters all the damn time) as an only child while my grandma was a narcissist who wouldn’t communicate her anger but would gaslight gatekeep girlboss guilt trip all the damn time. I think that the reason I didn’t end up like Rory is bc I decided to get a personality and rebel and get involved in my community and just be grounded when it comes to how good I think I am (maybe some self-esteem issues, but eh). Idk mate, I just hate how Rory treats her bf (as someone who doesn’t even date, never dated, don’t want to rlly date necessarily as an aroace) and Lorelay and her just have a lot of hate towards women who try bc it comes easy to them (for many reasons, including wealth)
⚠️SPOILERS⚠️ As you watch the show more and more, Christopher comes back here and there to pursue Lorelei instead of being there for Rory. Rory addresses this but it’s crazy how Emily still preferred Christopher over Luke even though she knew everything going on between Lorelai and Christopher while Luke was physically and emotionally there for Rory as a father figure. He’s literally Rory’s dad. However, Emily is still iconic in her own right but she’s not only incredibly narcissistic but also extremely controlling in Lorelei’s adult life. Luckily, Emily changes a lot and her relationship with Lorelei actually gets better towards the end in the revival series
Yes to the title.. I do not get the hype but your intro gave me a better understanding of the appeal for others. I just finished watching it for the first time so I don’t really have the nostalgia feeling associated with it. I have many qualms with the characters LOL but I found Lorelei being so mad at her parents bc they wanted to give her money and nice things to better her life so puzzling. I did not grow up like her so I can’t relate at all but are there really people who can relate to this?? (not trying to be judgmental just seems so foreign from my pov).. super unpopular but I lowkey loved Richard and emily as the seasons progressed
someone i reallly dislike is luke. his clueless in s1-4. is meh but once they get together he becomes the archetype of snivelling controlling but distant boyfriend. like things he does are things he talked shit about and just his overall character is this self efacing man who things are happening to and he cant possibly make a decision. he pisses me off so bad
i know people find his boisterous outbursts amusing and funny but i have to say i hate it a lot. i know people interpret them as him being exasperated but it makes him look like an aggressive troglodyte and it always pisses me off.
Love your hair, and you have a great voice for audio. Idk what goes into reading audio books but I’d for sure listen to you read a book, hope that’s not weird lol you have an engaging voice and way of speaking
Lorelai Gilmore is an absolute pick me. She’s so darn shallow and selfish. She’s always taken people’s kindness for granted and has been a horrible mother to Rory. Also I do not understand the incessant need to keep her mother out of everything. She is absolutely mean and disrespectful towards her parents. And hates everything they do for her and Rory. Like Lorelai has no issue borrowing money from her parents but treats them like shit. Confuses Luke. Keeps beefing with Jess. Also never acts her age. She’s literally the worst Tv mom ever.
They are the girls I love to hate and hate to love. One of my favorite shows that also engages me
I don’t like the town. I live in a small town and let me tell you…Stars Hollow is a LIE.
I 100% agree with everything you said & haha I knew you were going to bring up Devi when you were talking about a teenager with personality that makes mistakes lol. Also you just wait Rory in season 3 is a mess and I just started season 4.
oh girl i’m at the end of season 6 and you are gonna be PISSED when you get to season 4,5,6.😭😭
Dude me too, I did not watch the show much but I found the characters so annoying.
Who is Davey 13:48?
Never have I ever
There are more complexities to rory's character which we are visible as the show progress.
One thing that irked me about Lorelei which i noticed in thenfirst episode and even she confirmed herself; she and Rory are besties first, then mother/daughter second. It did not seem she actually parented Rory but rather acted like a big sister's and let her get away with whatever
babe same but here i am watching it again for the 5th time
what character are you talking about at 13:47
agreed but still I don’t always agree with everything they all do but I totally agree with this statement
Every single character is impulsive and they all jump to conclusions and are stubborn. It pisses me off that some issues could've been solved if they had just said something to one another. Like when Jackson is mad at Sookie (I forgot why tbh) and he said they were in a fight but Sookie had NO IDEA he was even mad. No one communicates ever. Rory is spoiled, Lorelei SOMETIMES calls it out.
As an Asian girl myself, Lane as a character pains me the most… I like the show overall but it feels like majority of the characters are just there to inflate the egos of the main characters and that’s it. Lane’s friendship with Rory sometimes feels unilateral specially when we see the lack of interest from Rory towards lane’s life when it doesn’t directly involve her life. It also hurts to see that the actress Keiko Agena feels the same way about her character now, that lane ended up being too unidimensional and the stereotypical Asian side character who only serves the purpose of being the main character selfless best friend.
I agree!
• Lorelai & Rory are Disney princesses & everyone else is an animal sidekick.
• Seeing how POC are treated is WILD. There are so few people of color & I read somewhere that the white characters get to feel liberation (in work, in love, in sex) while the people of color never progress. Never get a happy ending.
This makes me sad. You deserved a better character at the very bare minimum as a viewer.
I know I’m in the minority of the fandom but I love Emily. She’s my favorite character, problematic and all. I don’t like Lorelei or Rory at all really.
I get this. I think it's cos with Emily what you see is what you get. She is pretty open about who she is and how she operates. She also has a fair bit of character development.
Lorelai and Rory, on the other hand, don't see how controlling and manipulative they are. They operate a facade to the world and seem to believe in it themselves so go about all smug and self righteous and butter wouldnt melt. At least Emily is who she claims to be, which is more likeable I think.
@@CD-qr7ec THIS! Yes that’s it. If she’s mean, she’s honest about it. If she has ulterior motives, it’s upfront. Lorelei and Rory are just as self centered as Emily and are low key mean girls that act like girls’ girls.
Emily👑
I do love to watch the show for remembering the lack of social media and how compared to some of todays shows - their noses aren’t buried in their phones, the language sounds better and smarter (usually) etc.
And, I watch it for Suki! And Michel ! 😆
Although my favourite part is probably the relationship between Rory and Richard. I love grandparent/grandchild bonding. And I do have a soft spot for Emily and Lane’s mum - I know they’re not ideal but the other end of that is Lorelai who also isn’t?
Nobody would watch a show about perfect people living blameless lives without any drama or conflict.
Another reason why I don't looove the character Rory is linked to the actress' performance... it's undeniable how bad her performance is, zero emotion and feeling. period.
so we are all watching gg rn. i have 2 more episodes left of season 7 and i agree some of the characters are unlikeable
Gilmore Girls. The show that promises you quaint, quirky small-town charm and rapid-fire banter but actually serves up a lethal cocktail of stagnation and emotional quicksand. You sit down thinking you're about to experience a cozy corner of Americana, but before you know it, you're marooned in an alternate reality, lulled into a false sense of security by the chirpy residents of Stars Hollow. The endless drama-rife with love triangles, quirky coffee shop repartee, and predictable fall festivals-is a black hole that sucks all your energy into a vortex of nothingness.
This is not just escapism; it's a trap, a delusion of life's fullness wrapped in coffee cups and mother-daughter bonding. And the worst part? It masquerades as sophisticated, witty, and emotionally rich storytelling, when it's really just the junk food of television-an aesthetic form of filler, aimed at providing just enough drama to keep you glued to the screen but never challenging enough to evoke real thought. Gilmore Girls takes you by the hand and leads you into a gentle fog, where nobody really gets hurt, and everything is resolved in 45 minutes.
This syrupy mediocrity dulls the mind. You’re being spoon-fed the illusion that you're witnessing life unfold, but you're actually being coddled, sedated into a comforting hum of shallow, low-stakes melodrama. It teaches you that life’s problems are always fixable with a cup of coffee and a clever retort, leaving you unreceptive to the greater, grittier truths that really shape human experience. Why seek real social interaction when you can just live vicariously through Lorelai and Rory’s never-ending carousel of first-world problems?
Gilmore Girls lures you into a false sense of intellectual engagement and emotional investment while wasting hours of your life on nothingness. You’re tricked into believing you’re consuming something of substance, but in reality, it’s an emotional placebo, numbing you to the complexities of the world outside your screen. It’s as if this sugary fluff pacifies you into believing you’re "living" without the messiness of real interaction, real conflict, and real growth. Worse yet, it fosters this strange sense of smugness. You, the viewer, start to feel like you’ve gained some grand insight into life, all because you've watched these characters go through their cozy little tribulations. But it’s all an illusion.
You've been fed complacency wrapped in witty dialogue, and now you think you understand life. In reality, you’ve just been distracted long enough to forget that real happiness, real growth, and real understanding lie far outside the comfort of Stars Hollow.
In the end, Gilmore Girls isn't just a time-suck-it's a numbing agent. It prevents you from seeking out the real world, from delving into life's complexities, and from truly engaging with the people around you. It leaves you lost in a haze of complacency, comfortable but hollow, emotionally invested but intellectually bankrupt.
I think what the show makers intended by making the titular characters "annoying" is their way of saying "we support women's wrongs" which was revolutionary at the time compared to the impossible societal imposted by society on women which is reflected in both Emily and Luke. While Emily always rejected Lorelei, Emily was just a product of her time, which is a mother who just wanted the best for her daughter who never dared to break out of her bubble have the awareness to actally understand Lorelei so she thought she was fixing her by patronizing her, while despite how Luke gets frustrated by Lorelei, he shows her the acceptance and support that her mother never gave her, which is what she was always looking for. Rory having also suffered from the lack of support from her dad echoes the same self reliance that Lorelei had passed down to Rory making it no coincidence that she would repeat her mother's mistakes.
Watching this video a year late and you said “there’s 2000 of us here” and now you’re almost to 13k! That’s awesome
Have you ever seen Dawson’s creek.
It’s similar vibe to gilmore girls but it’s the teen/life story of Kevin Williamson. The guy who makes all those teen/small town horror. Example
Scream movies and scream tv shows, the first 2 seasons of the vampire diaries, I know what you did last summer, etx.
The show is about Dawson, teen who lives in quirky small town guy, coming of age, while also dreaming of one day going to Hollywood and make horror movies.
Would love to see more videos from you on Gilmore Girls
I don't get why everyone thinks the gilmore women are so special. They're pretty and are quirky, but everyone acts like they are perfect people. Actually, they tend to have complicated relationships with the opposite sex. They have learned that people will put them on a pedestal and let them get away with bad behavior.
I connect with Luke and Jess. They are emotionally closed off to differing degrees. They are good at the core, and had to learn some lessons to become their best selves. Communication akills have to he learned.
I think this is a show that mostly appeals to high school level girls, at the most.
Honestly when I got to my early twenties, I looked back on the show and realized how unrelatable to me Rory and Lorelai actually were, despite feeling a deep connection to Rory when I was younger.
I found it very boring and almost unwatchable as Lorelai and Rory began acting more and more annoying.
"What is you doing?" Lol 😂
I absolutely love lorelai and the show in general, but your video was so fun to watch! I totally understand your point. Subscribed!!!
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I just feel she just wanted better for her daughter ,she want her daughter to be better than her and not follow her footsteps same as me I had my daughter at 16 me she’s now 19 all I want is better for her in always talk to her in be understanding because I didn’t have that with my mom ❤so I get her point on how she is with rory but i don’t Ike her be Rory be municipally these men
Who's Davey
YESS someone had to say it and you did 💅🏻
My lil butt ran to this video!! I was like please tell me that I'm not crazy!!! I can only get through like the first few seasons then I'm done. I just don't click with this show.
you’re so bold for making this video after only watching 2 seasons 😭😭😭 i don’t blame you tho i HATED the gilmore girls esp lorelai during szn 1 i almost gave up watching the show entirely but you really gotta push thru i felt so differently about them by the end!!! i hope you’ve finished it by now hehe
I haven't seen you before but I really love your style and vibe so much, hearing your take was so entertaining 😍
I love GG. I have binged it so many times, especially when I'm at work (I work nights), but Lorelei only gets away with her annoying, perky, pick-me attitude because she lives in a small town. If she lived in New York, for example, someone would have told her to shut the f up by now.
I love Gilmore girls because I hate all the characters (especially Rory and Lorelai) and i love hating
Is the marvelous, Mrs. Maisel what happens when Lorelei stays at home?
I think what's funny about the series is that we ended up judging them the way they judge people who are not into their interests or group think.
I think most of the characters on GG are pretty awful, but that's honestly, that's what I like about the show. To me, the show is about villains who don't realize they're villains. It's like the Kardashians, but with interesting storylines (I'm basing this off of the three episodes of KUWTK that I saw like 10 years ago, so if I'm wrong about the show having storylines, my bad). Emily, Lorelei, and Rory are very similar people, but their differences make those similarities play out in wildly different ways...if that makes sense. Like, they all have narcissistic tendencies, but in different ways. Forgive my rambling. It's late and I just took a melatonin.
I have one question lol.. who is Davey? is that from a different show? Cause the only Davey I know in Gilmore Girls is Sukis son... Well that I think Lane's boyfriend from her band is named Dave.. I think.. lol. Just curious. Unless I heard her wrong.. then sorry lol.
She's talking about Devi from Never Have I Never! It's a great Netflix Show that just finished recently.
Lorelai acts like Emily A LOT of time, only she doesn´t see it, and so pushes the same control onto rory that her mother did onto her, but with the bonus that rory and lorelai are best friends so it´s even more of a mess. You have to trust your parents but your parents cannot be your friends. Also, during the whole show there´s this dynamic of rory being the rational one and more ¨¨´¨grown up¨¨¨¨ and lorelai being more whimsical and free spirited, reverting the usual roles parents and teenagers have, lorelai only uses her parent card when rory does something that she specifically doesn´t like but not everytime rory does something wrong. Idk, they piss me off a lot, but I get that is on purpose so I keep watching, sometimes my eye is twitching tho.
The last thing I want to say is that for me the episode with the termites was wild, how are you gonna let your own house with your kid inside crumble because you are too stubborn?????
I’m not fully done with the show but so far, Kirk is the only character that hasn’t pissed me off. (Or Emily’s maids, I feel bad for them.)
I have so many controversial opinions about this show and it's characters but somehow it's the one piece of media that I can just say "oh well, it's just like that" and enjoy it anyway. Idk there's some magic hold it has over everyone
Rory Gilmore’s character will make sense right at the end of the seasons right at the end of the reunion season. Because she is absorbing everything from her grandparents everything from her mother and how the community treat her. She gets to her 20s and 30s and starts acting like she can get anything she wants no matter the feet she treads on. And basically just a reincarnation of all three personalities from her grandparents and parent. She gets messy but it’s annoying because she’s like an adult and she’s messy. It removes the fun useful messiness that a lot of teams go through. Maybe it was meant to show how messy her environment was or how out of control she was of her own situation.🤷🏾♀️
I think the reason you feel nothing during Rory’s emotional scenes is because Alexis isn’t a very good actress. She’s just very stiff. I think they chose her for her looks and not her acting ability. Just my opinion
yep