Awesome stuff, glad it helps out! Some others like RaceRoom, iRacing and EA WRC have started to introduce this feature natively in the graphics settings but in AMS2 you have to go delving through a text file but definitely worth it 👍
Awesome stuff, happy to hear it came in useful! AMS2 is probably as good as it gets in VR at the moment, especially considering how well it runs without needing a super PC either, so you're onto something good 😉 now if only the AI could get a little love...
1000 thumbs up! Thanks for the 30 seconds to make AMS2 look as fantastic without any frame drops as it's taken me months to make AC look good in VR using CSP, Pure and dozens of pp filters
Thanks for the kind words 😁 really appreciate it! Happy this tip came in useful, AMS2 is arguably the most visually stunning VR racing sim out there and this can definitely help crisp up the image a little.
I have a 3080 with supersampling set to the last 1.1 settings and 90fps and there was something missing before. If i set the supersampling any higher i was getting a performance hit but track on high, aliasing high, anistropic filtering on 8 and with these settings you provide in this vid had just turned ams2 into something beautiful. Thank you so much for making this video dude.
You're more than welcome mate, glad it came in useful! It's a nifty little tweak to get a little more clarity/sharpness out of the image at no performance hit whatsoever 👍 especially useful in VR when you've already cranked up super sampling like you said.
for me supersampling (in Automobilista menu incl restarting the game) does not shows any difference, SS on 1.0, 1.2, 1. 5, 2.0 looks all exactly the same. what I am doing wrong? I restarted after every change the game of course and the valies are still in the menus correctly.
@@mh7711 may help to play around with your gpu settings in nvidia or amd whichever applies. If they are not the best then this will affect the outcome.
@@xtreemkiller7769 OK I will check, I have some settings for ams2, that are mentioned from other users. and I use 100% resolution in steamVr. in ACC for example when increasing vr supersampling resolution the graphics become incredible sharp.
Thanks for that. I've been on the fence a bit about trying AMS2. I use a ReverbG2 with OpenXR (which in my experience is superior to SteamVR to the point that switching to OpenXR was almost like getting a new higher-res VR helmet). Knowing that it plays nicely with my VR setup pushes me a little more to try AMS2.
@@ozziecoops I haven't tested it but haven't really felt the need to 👍 I don't use Steam VR since all of the sim racing titles I use are supported natively through Oculus.
Those F3 cars are squirrelly at the best of times 😅 so add in some extra moisture and it's definitely going to need a few corrections here and there...
Hey, glad I came across your video. I just run some extensive testing on both a Quest 2 and 3 and this is what I found: First, changing the sharpness from 0 to 1 is way too much. It adds to "fuzziness" and jumping pixels at long distances, as another poster here pointed out. It becomes detrimental to the experience. So I changed it to .3 instead of 1. I also changed offsetbias to 1.02, although I'm not sure what it does but this value seemed to work well. Second, I took several pics and videos of the before and after in order to carefully analyze the changes. Interestingly this only resulted in a better image, whether still or video - but it was not a representation of what you get live with the headset. Where the pics and movies looked awesome with a value of 1 for sharpness, it made for an unpleasant experience with the headset on, as noted above. This was true for both Quests 2 and 3. If you want to take pics to run your own tests, you will have to enable Experimental options in settings and enable voice commands. You will have to say "hey facefuckinbook - take a picture" or "start recording" then "stop recording". Double pressing the Meta button in the right controller does not work to bring up the voice commands (instead it will want to recentre the image). Please note too that if you have a GPU that meets the minimum requirements (GTX1650 Super I think) then you have room to add some Super Sampling, found in the VR settings in AMS2. With both a GTX1660 Super and a 1070, on two different PCs, I have both set at 1.5. This will greatly improve the image quality and cuts back on the "jumpiness" but you will take a hit in fps. In my case it's hovering around 30fps, which is totally playable with a VR headset. This while having every other graphic setting on ultra (including shadows - we can thank the Madness engine for this, it is super efficient). Those that think you must achieve a fps of 80 or more else you're not man enough, is just missing out on image quality. I'd much rather race at 28fps and be able to see the end of a straightway from a distance then to brag about getting 100+ fps with an image so pixelated you're pretty much running blind. Anyway, this was a worthy tip. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed.
Anything below 80 in every vr headset I've ever tried is just not a good experience at all. Worse than playing flat. You must have some special eyes to be able to play at those frame rates. I mean the latency alone would be detrimental.
@@zacharywilliams2904 The fact that you claim to have tested it in EVERY vr headset tells me that your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. And if your experience indeed yields a poor result in the headset that you own at a fps of below 80 to be poor then it leads me to believe your gear isn't that efficient. With a vast combination of GPU and headsets in the market I suppose that experiences will vary per each individual set up. But your claim that anything below 80 fps to result in a poor experience leads me to believe you haven't got much experience in the subject. But your input is welcome nonetheless.
Thanks for testing out a few different settings on a few headsets I've never used, always good to get more feedback and hopefully it'll come in useful for anyone else who might watch this and scroll through the comments section 👍 That said, I might have to disagree with you on the fps point you raised. I've found that running lower than the native refresh rate of the headset is very noticeable and not in a nice way. It starts stuttering and chopping the image, especially when moving your head quickly to check the mirror or look out the side window for example. Most headsets offer an asynchronous warp setting which will drop to half frames (for example 80 down to 40) if the GPU is struggling and then interpolate the missing frames, but this introduces a lot of glitches around fast moving objects such as catch fencing in the peripheral vision. It's also worth noting that it's not physically possible to get better fps than the refresh rate of the headset, so if it can only do 80fps then it'll cap out and won't get any better than that. At this point you might as well max as many settings as you can otherwise you're not using the full potential of the GPU or VR. A lot of people suffer from motion sickness when lower frame rates or warping starts to kick in and, although you might be one of the few who either doesn't notice it or isn't bothered by it, I think I'd speak for the majority when I say that pushing the headset down as low as 28fps is a horrible experience. It's not really about bragging rights or who's man enough, I personally couldn't care less what kind of numbers my GPU is pumping out but if I start dropping frames in the VR then it's something I can notice immediately and it's absolutely jarring and gives me a headache. I've upgraded to a 3080 these days so don't have too many issues anymore, but a few years ago I was running the Nvidia 1080 and it would struggle on higher settings or bigger grids, I got caught out online a few times with settings that were too high and had to race with bad stuttering/low fps and really struggled to drive the car properly. Not having that fluid motion made it so much harder to judge what my car was doing and also judge the space to other cars and objects around me. I'd much rather sacrifice a bit of detail and clarity to maintain the higher framerates and fluid motion/image. Like I said though, that's just me 😎 everyone's mileage may vary.
@@DDFRacer I agree, since posting this I turned the refresh rate back to 120hz, as well as the resolution back to native. Not that my weak gpu can keep up but it seem better. Of course I'm speaking from the point of view of someone on the low end of the world of VR, given my weak GPUs. So my plan is to try and get the best possible experience out of the equipment I have at my disposal. Thankfully I'm not prone to motion sickness, else this would be a horrible experience. Although in some instances I have experienced some it, usually during crashes when your car is sent spinning. Perhaps this doesn't happen at 100+ fps but again, I can only relate to my own experience. Taking a hit on fps to the point it hovers at around 30fps in order to gain better clarity is advantageous over higher fps with poor image quality - then again this from someone that saw an improvement and doesn't suffer from motion sickness. Mileage will vary, so anyone reading this, please try to see what works for you. This is why I listed my two GPUs in my comment, so others with similar hardware can try and learn from some of these many tips out there in order to improve their experience. Didn't want to give the impression that I'm against those with 4090s, in case it came across as such. Heaven knows I'd love to get one of these, but kids and all the expenses they incur take priority over toys. Wouldn't I love to race every track at max graphic setting at 100 fps. Maybe once the kids grow up and move out. I'm still trying to see what works best. Clearly a Quest 3 is an improvement over the Q2, even with below average equipment like mine. That's why I was so pleased to come across your video, lots of great tips here.
Yeah I know that feeling well, I'm raising a little kiddo myself too and all non-essential expenses tend to get put on hold 😅 I'm lucky to have already upgraded my GPU a few years ago and would love to get a VR upgrade as well, such as the Quest 3, but that'll have to wait for a little while I think. The trusty old CV1 soldiers on 👍
I've thought about getting an upgrade many times before but no matter how much research I do, nothing strikes me as being better than what I currently have. Nothing stands out like "yes, this is the one!" and makes me want to buy it. I hear nothing but negatives about newer Oculus headsets, whether it's the wireless quality drops (don't forget I'd also be using my network for streaming at the same time and even more prone to artefacts) or lower build quality such as the straps. Sure it'd be nice to have a higher resolution and sharper image, but the other aspects that come along with it just don't appeal to me. It's also not cheap to upgrade either 😅 so until my CV1 physically stops working and dies then I'll keep on using it.
@@DDFRacer Get a Bigscreen Beyond when it launches later this year. The size/weight/comfort + image quality is going to be out of this world. Will feel like at least 2 generations ahead of CV1. I'm waiting for that one. I went from CV1 to Samsung Odyssey Plus, and now waiting for Beyond as a true next generation leap.
@@DDFRacerhonestly, you'd find the difference between your current headset and a quest 3 using virtual desktop mind blowing. Now I do have a dedicated wifi 6e router so that helps, but regardless virtual desktop is brilliant. It uses the idle processing power in the quest 3 to provide additional super sampling, as well as kicking in the best reprojection I've ever seen (space warp) when needed. Try it, it's well worth it.
No worries mate, I'd be keen to see if you like it or not! It definitely makes things sharper but also can highlight jaggies around the edges on newer headsets so you might need to dial it down a bit 🤔
Great video. Thanks for the tip. Do you know if these settings will work with OpenComposite/OpenXR which I'm using with my HP Reverb G2 V2, and get a solid 90 FPS. There's always room to improve image quality and sharpness. 😎👍🏼
Hey Merv, thanks for the kind words mate! Pretty sure this will work with any method of running VR in AMS2, just need to find the correct text file which your game is referencing and make the changes outlined in the video 👍
I don't see any reason why not 😎 although the Quest 3 has better clarity to begin with so the gains might not be as apparent compared to an older headset. My best advise would be to try a few different values and see what works best for you 👍
Sure is 👍 it might be subtle but it definitely crisps everything up a little, especially in the distance, which is where VR headsets tend to struggle the most compared to a monitor. Glad it helped 😎
Good stuff, that sounds promising. I realise my CV1 is not going to last forever and out of all the options I've been researching, the Quest 3 is probably the one I'm going to pick 👍
@@DDFRacerI just got mine yesterday, the first expression was 😮🤩🤩🤩….. the way it looks is so much better, everything looks so clear and beautiful… If you change at some point definitely you should try it, it’s a not going back after you tried..!!! Thanks for the tip!!
From my understanding, the offset bias affects the distance at which the sharpening takes effect. In this instance with my settings mentioned in the video, objects that are closer have slightly less sharpening applied since it's already pretty clear in your vision, however objects that take up less space on the screen because they're further away will receive more of the sharpening effect. Here's a more technical explanation from the forums: Offset (0.0->6.0, default 1.0) - the offset from the current pixel for the sampling pattern (so if it's 1 it will sample neighbouring pixels, any less and it will bias towards the central pixel, any more and it will start sampling pixels outside the normal kernel).
@@DDFRacer great! Thanks for all the info :) Yeah I’ve stuck with what I had before. It’s just way too sharp for me. Everyone is different I suppose. For me, going back to FXAA on low looks better.
Sure am 😉 I've had it for over five years now and it's been solid as a rock, I'll keep on using it until it dies completely. I've never used or even tried another VR headset unfortunately, I've looked at getting an upgrade but, to be honest, for the money involved I can't seem to to justify the expense whilst the CV1 is still going strong. The newer Oculus headsets don't fill me with confidence (melted charging ports, quality drops over wireless, lower build quality etc) and switching to a non Oculus based headset would need me to completely re-do my streaming capture set up since my live chat/telemetry overlays all use the built in Oculus software and are optimised to capture from the Oculus mirror. I mean, it could be done, but why spend the money and time doing that when the current setup works more than fine?
To be honest, until my CV1 actually stops working I'll be sticking with it 👍 it's a great headset eh? Sure, I could get a better resolution with a Quest 2 or something but the CV1 is super comfortable and just works really well.
@@DDFRacer I upgraded my cv1 to the quest 2 and then the HP reverb g2 and ended up downgrading back to my cv1. I actually liked it so much that I purchased two of them from ebay. The build quality and weight are just great. The resolution upgrade was nice with the new headsets, but LCD is so inferior to OLED. You get much more blur when you're actually in motion with LCD. It removes the essence of being in VR imo. This directly correlates with PSVR's positive review success. The lower resolution of the cv1 also made it super easy to max games out and when you're in motion the resolution doesn't matter as much. I just wish it had more FOV and 120hz. My next upgrade will probably be the Bigscreen Beyond headset.
@@Amp1tude I upgraded from CV1 to Rift S to Quest 2 to Pico 4. Each of these upgrades gave a very noticable boost in visual clarity. Was any of these upgrades a complete game changer? Not really. Where any of these ugprades "necessary"? Not really. Did I regret any of the ugrades? Not really. But I imagine going straight from a CV1 to a Pico 4 would be like seeing the world with glasses for the first time for someone who has some serious blurred vision. Also since the Quest 2 and now Pico 4 I've been using Virtual Desktop for wireless VR. While for race sims the wire isn't really a big deal I still couldn't go back to wired VR now.
@@linko994 When you talk about visual clarity you are simply referring to the resolution. The CV1 does everything else better than those other headsets. OLED panel superiority. Black level superiority. Contrast superiority, response time superiority, build quality superiority. The supersampled images on the CV1 were pretty clear compared to the quest 2's native. They require about the same processing power. Reading text would be the biggest con of the CV1, but most vr games are designed for lower resolutions anyways. This will change one day. The other con being 90hz only. For Sim racing I would say resolution matters the most and doing the upgrade will be worth it, but for VR gaming in general I think the CV1 is the best bang for the buck still and does things much better than most headsets. Having wireless introduces inputlag, which I did measure. I'm sensitive to it. For Sim racing it isn't a big deal. The new Bigscreen VR headset is the only one I'd consider upgrading from my CV1 to. It's $1,000 though...
Thanks for tip. I already had it on some different numbers before my new gpu. Now on quest 2 looks even better after the card upgrade... I'm good to go now.
Also there are some things to be changed in oculus debug tool. Pixel per display on 1.1 or something. Definitely worth is setup FOV multiplier on. 0.8 and 0.8, than restart as administrator and than connect quest 2.. (for anyway who read this)
The reason sharpening isn't used heavily, is because its a high motion game, and sharpening usually never scales well with constantly moving images, im sure theres a sweet spot of a subtle bump in clarity before shimmering takes place. This is really only good for a high resolution headsets, anything on low will have its shimmer aliasing exacerbated, sharpening is simply not free super sampling, and comments like such just show how new you are to the understanding of various shaders, in this case sharpening.
Good to know, thanks 👍 always an opportunity to learn new things. Can definitely say I don't go overboard on this feature as it does cause a lot of artefacts the harder you push it, like you say, but on an older headset like my CV1 with a lower resolution it certainly helps make things like corner markers and kerbs a little clearer at greater distances.
When using native 100% resolution in the Reverb G2 with 3140 pixels per eye and little bit filtering, then the additional sharpness/clarity is very very nice! Users with an rtx 4090 can go even higer, I think 120-130% resolution without problems
This may be a really stupid question, but do I have to open notebook and copy and paste? because it won’t let me delete the zero change the 0 to 1 or do anything to it.
Ah righto, yes 👍 double clicking these files automatically opens them in notepad on my computer but if that's not the case for you then yeah, right click and open with notepad, make the changes and then make sure to save the file. Hope you get it sorted.
You're welcome mat, glad it came in useful! As for the stache, ah yes, that's my alter ego 'Bulk Brogan' who's making his way through an entire AMS2 Racing Life career at the moment. Needed a new identity for the playthrough and nothing better than a stick on moustache to disguise yourself right? 😅
Interesting 🤔 I'll have to look in to that. The way to check would be to make a backup of the file, delete it, then get Steam to verify files which would put a brand new one in its place with the latest default settings.
Thanks for the vid, AMS2 is really amazing in VR. Just a quick question, if anyone has issue with Meta Quest 2 that when I race at night, I can see these annoying antialiasing around the wings and gaps of body panels on other cars, almost look like some static? I maxed out the graphics and resolution and using link cable but still the same. I was running DPI cars in Spa at night. Thanks!
Yeah I have this as well, I think it's just one of the drawbacks of the rendering engine unfortunately, possibly related to motion blur or depth of field where some of the car gets put out of focus but other parts don't 🤔 I'll have a play around and see if I can find the exact cause.
Hey Manu, I can't say that I've experienced this issue so I'm not sure if it would help or not. I would recommend posting on the Reiza forums but I can see you already did that on Friday and haven't had a response unfortunately 😅 best thing you can do is give it a try and see for yourself if it fixes it then let me know. Should only take a couple of minutes to find out 👍
It's a custom designed HUD I've made using SimHub 👍 you can download a copy for free and get the install instructions on my Discord server, link in the description.
Can't help you with that one unfortunately 😅 I only managed a few hours in F122 thanks to multiple blue screens of death and terrible performance, ultimately uninstalling and getting a refund.
Sorry for the late reply! I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with the Quest 3 since it's just modifying a text file, although I haven't used this headset so couldn't really comment on how effective it is. The Quest 3 already has a pretty good resolution to begin with according to the specs so it might not be too noticeable, although the best way to find out would be to give it a try and see what you think 👍
@@LeMamour Did you try it? If so, did you notice any diff? I have a quest 2 that so could use any bit of help, especially when looking down the straighways. Just got a quest 3 and not sure if the settings would be different (or if it even makes a diff on the q3)
@@Slakass55 Honestly i forgot about this trick, i follow the trick of the oculus debug tool (file inside oculus folder/support). The graphics on AMS2 a amazing with that. Now this morning i did the trick of DDFRacer, when i first did my quest 3 kinda bug at the launch some stuttering (i got a 6750 XT with I5 13400). I then restart pc and headset, lauch the game again and everything run smooth with a slightly better graphics it seems. I will continue compare the two versions.
@@LeMamour Just tried the debug tool, it did nothing for me. Couldn't see a single benefit from it, despite several tries with diff settings. Changing resolution also didn't help clear things up while keeping a decent fps. So at the end what worked best was changing the sharpness to .4 and increasing the super sampling to 1.7 in the app. This gives the best possible image on a gtx 1070 while retaining around 30fps, which is very playable on a Quest 2 without any slowdowns. And the above also proves true for the Quest 3, which looks a lot better in AMS2
I'm opening the game with Steam VR for Windows Mixed Reality, (openVR was not working well for me) but I don't have the graphicsconfigdx11 file - just the oculus one. Any clues?
That's an odd one 🤔 just checked my folder and I've definitely got that file there, no idea why you wouldn't, although I'm not running through Steam VR or Mixed Reality so not too familiar with how they work unfortunately. Your best bet would be searching on the Reiza forums or posting a new thread if you can't find anything 👍
The graphics engine that Automobilista 2 uses is very well optimised, meaning that you can push it harder than other racing sims but still get the same level of performance. Whether it's at sunset, in the rain, surrounded by headlights or multiple cars on track, AMS2 just seems to run very smoothly so you can afford to increase the settings 👍
That's because the video captured is off his monitor and not from the headset. On either the quest 2 or 3, the image quality is a lot worse than what you see here. Still nice but not the gorgeous clarity and definition you see here. There basically are two types of recordings, I have never tried to save a recording right from the Quest. Not sure i'd want to.
Kind of. Supersampling sharpens the image by rendering it at a higher resolution and then resizing it back down again, using a fair chunk of your GPU in the process, whereas this method applies a sharpening filter directly to the original image at no extra performance cost.
For me OpenXR doesnt bring any performance-boost or graphical visual boost, I testet >60 hours every single option back and forward. But I use OpenXR only because of the possibility to improove the very weak contrasty look to something very contrastful realistic look. For ACC switching to OpenXR brought a massive boost in visuals and performance. Overall ACC with OpenXR looks way more nicer/realistic and even sharper than AMS2 with same performance (stable 90hz) on my hp reverb g2 with RTX 3090. So I dont understand why some people say that AMS2 is nicer in VR than ACC, after tweaking and modding it is not correct. Also the sound experience of ACC is so much better than in AMS2. But ACC hass way less cars and tracks, that is the downside..
I must admit I haven't tried OpenXR but I might give it a try as performance in ACC has been severely lacking for me regardless of the hardware I've used. That said, this video refers to a simple text edit which increases the clarity in AMS2 with no performance hit whatsoever 👍
I agree. ACC's UE is not made for vr users. BUT with the best hardware even ACC is able to run with 90fps everything maxed out. As you said. ACC looks pretty damn sexy. I run a rtx 4090 + 5800x3d. My ACC with openxr and reverbg g2 looks better than ams2. Even rfactor2 from 2013 looks maxed out better than ams2. Ams2 has a incredible good vr performance. No need for costy hardware to enjoy a good looking sim race title
I'd love to try this out but unfortunately I still have to find out how to make it actually work in VR in my Quest 2 😅 I only have a 2D curved screen inside the headset through Meta Link, even if I properly started the game in Oculus Mode from Steam. Had anyone has this issue too?
Hmmn that is odd 🤔 not sure what's going on there and can't say I've had that issue before. I'm not using a Quest 2 so don't need to worry about using link since my CV1 is wired in directly, but normally when you start in Oculus mode even the menu should be in 3d space instead of a 2d curved screen. Can't help you with that one I'm afraid, have you tried posting up on the Reiza forums to see if anyone can help?
@@DDFRacer Hi ! :) Found out it was because unknown sources wasn't activated in the Oculus PC app, so Steam VR couldn't start 😅 Now I'm in VR, but for whatever reason, there's no sound when the Quest is selected as sound output. Everything else works : headphones, speakers and screen speakers... Another troubleshooting for another day 😁
With my quest 2 and a 3060 its impossible lol Everything is flickering, dull as hell. Too annoying. Kinda like not having your glasses on... Not sure how people can stand all the aliasing and blur..BTW, those videos you are showing here. Thats not what it actually looks like in the oculus is it? Id die to have that kind of resolution!!!
Can't say I've ever used a Quest 2 but that doesn't sound too encouraging 🤔 sorry to hear that mate! I was considering one for an upgrade but might be having a few second thoughts now. As for the footage you see on the screen, that's a direct mirror of the same image being sent to the VR headset in the left eye I believe, otherwise AMS2 would need a whole heap more resources to render a new image for the recording. I loaded up a replay file and placed the headset on the floor to get a stable image, but it's definitely what I'm seeing in the headset 👍
Since you have a powerful gpu, you will want to play with the super sampling setting. In the Options, look for the VR section. It goes from 1 to 2, in .1 increments. My gpu is just a 1070 so the max I can get away with is 1.6 but that alone makes a world of difference, at the cost of fps. If you can get around 26 fps at the max SS setting of 2, you'd be golden. A lot less flickering, shadows look good, it's a lot nicer. Although with the Quest 3 it's even nicer as the image is more detailed. Oh and put everything else on ultra. It won't drop the fps, believe it or not. However remove all the lighting effects like bloom, flare, etc.
After a long deep in to it I can get 60-65fps (1080p MID setting in game and SS 1.0), so 1.4 in debug tools and HIGH settings in Virtual Desktop…I think I squeezed all the juice from my system and feels totally playable and very acceptable graphics (good) for my modest playtime (just fun), getting 75-80°c on gpu spot too.
Are you looking in the AMS2 folder in My Documents or the AMS2 folder where your Steam library is located? These files are in the My Documents AMS2 sub folder 👍 _not_ in the main My Documents folder itself or in the Steam files. If you still can't find them then I'm at a bit of a loss unfortunately as this is where I have them on my setup.
I've had a look at more modern headsets but nothing really grips my fancy or stands out, seems like most newer models take a step back in some areas compared to the CV1. Sure the resolution on the quest is better but I've not heard many positive things about the wireless compression/artefacts, latency, battery life, pupil distance adjustment etc. If the Quest 2 is perhaps a first VR headset then it might be fine, but I'm struggling to find any good reviews or experiences from people who've upgraded unfortunately 🤔
@@DDFRacer I can recommend pimax 5k super, i race open wheel fr 3.5 and need the higher refresh rate it can do, 120, 144, 165, tracking is flawless with htc base station and wide field of view handy for judging cars beside
@@DDFRacer I went from Rift S to Quest 2, so I'll pick up your points, in case it's of interest. Playing without the wire is really nice but you have to be the only user on the 5GHz band. Latency and compression artefacts aren't really an issue, given the significant increase in fidelity and you are sim racing so 80-100ms lag is not noticeable (to me at least). It really does look loads better. That said, it is definitely more faff than the direct-to-GPU wire, as you have to click into desktop link mode and from time to time the link breaks for whatever reason. It is a bit annoying and probably not acceptable for you, as you could be streaming when it happens. The extra pressure on your GPU is also significant. Pupil distance was not a problem for me, but not sure how lucky I had to be for that to be the case. Battery and comfort are both solved with the BoboVR M2 Plus, but that's another £100. Basically it's a bit of a hassle, but for me worth it. The Rift S went straight to ebay! All non-racing VR games are loads better without the wire, and it's one less thing to untangle when racing so I use wireless there too.
Hey 😅 any boost on visuals I can get helps, besides not only does this really make a nice difference on headsets with lower resolutions, it can also help bring things into focus on newer headsets too.
@@DDFRacer Thanks for your answer and of course you are right. I just thought it was quite funny. I had the Oculus CV1 once and I know that you have to count signs rather than read them. hehe. I'm surprised that you still use the CV1 as a VR driver :-).
@@ThePape78 I've thought about upgrading many times but whenever I do my research I find lots of negatives which discourage me from spending any extra money while the CV1 is still alive. I know I could definitely run at higher resolutions than I do right now, but talk of IPD adjustment issues, melted USB ports, quality/latency drops in wireless, snapped headbands etc really puts me off. I haven't found a replacement model that excites me enough to take the plunge 🤔
I haven't used a Quest 3 myself, only the CV1 mentioned in this video, but I know a few people have said that the headset is bitrate limited and can cause compression issues, like a poor quality RUclips video, sometimes. Have you tried upping the bitrate in the Oculus/Meta software?
Are you looking in the AMS2 folder in My Documents or the AMS2 folder where your Steam library is located? These files are in the My Documents AMS2 folder 👍 but if you're already looking there and can't see the files then I'm at a bit of a loss unfortunately as this is where I have them on my setup.
@@DDFRacer thanks, I didn't realise there would be another folder outside of main game folder, I'll take a look at My Documents, thanks! Great content btw 👌🏻
I just tried this out and on my rift s and it looks worse, there is more noticeable aliasing and its less pleasant to look at, maybe at 0.2 its ok but at that point there is barely any difference.
Thanks for the feedback mate, good to know 👍 just out of curiosity what Anti Aliasing and Supersampling settings are you running? If it's at a lower resolution or maybe there are jaggies to begin with then this might actually be what's making it look worse like you said.
@@DDFRacer I use full resolution with texture filtering set to anisotropic 8x and msaa to high, rift s does not have enough resolution to prevent aliasing and I prefer the image to be softer because then its harder to spot the pixels, everything blends together, sharpening the image does not add detail just differentiates the pixels and adds ringing artifacts that I find annoying and unpleasant to look at.
@@goneg1338 Can't disagree with that at all mate 👍and that's the beauty of these things, they can be subjective. What looks nice to one person might not look nice to someone else and if we all liked the same things then art and design would get boring pretty quickly 😉
@@DDFRacer4090 owner here. Reverb g2 = super sampling x1.2 via openxr, msaa middle, ingame SS 1.0, AF x16. Overall graphoc settings high/ultra. 90fps no issues. It's beatiful indeed. Thanks to the madness engine. Super nice!
im a non vr user ... but has anyone tried the nvidia filter settings .. good for colour balance .. but not tried the sharpening ... on a separate note go Bulk !
Can't say I have tried them to be honest 🤔 I'll give it a look but generally I try and avoid changing nvidia settings that affect things on a global level as they may conflict with individual program settings and cause some funky results.
@@DDFRacer to my knowledge they only adjust the game you use it in. its done when in game by pressing alt/F3 ... where you can select/adjust ... turn on/ off. you do have to have geforce experience installed for it to work.
I'm not familiar with that screen unfortunately 🤔 have you tried searching/posting on the Reiza forums to see if anyone else has had (and found a solution for) the same issue?
@DDFRacer, I've searched in some forums and the AMS2 subreddit and, unfortunately, didn't find any solution. The "Next Up" screen shows when loading games in SteamVR.
All i want to know : What is the fliping button to tell my game what: I, me , my Senses, my Gut, and every other fiber of my Body know is FRONT. Dont get me wrong, i am open for new Opinions but... if i have to turn my Head 45- 90 degrees Right to look out my windsheeld im not feeling like the problem. But i have to be it. Because if not, someone would have implementet a.. dont kow.. option/butten/slider to reset this Right? ey did not.
In the settings menu, under your controllers/devices, there should be an option to map a button/key to reset the VR position based on where your head is currently pointed 👍 there will also be options for seat forwards/backwards and up/down too. I'm not sure what they are by default and these will change depending on the type of wheel or device you're using too, but the options are definitely there.
If it's similar to iRacing then it'll be the distance at which sharpening takes effect maybe? Will have to have a play around to check, but it could possibly be used to make close objects such as the cockpit sharper without applying too much to distant objects like trees and clouds etc.
Why is everybody telling you that AMS2 is good (best) for VR? I have a 3060 and a HP Rv 2 V2 ... And the ONLY game I can play at full resolution in VR is AC ...90 fps ..(with minimum settings ...) ???
@@hdvrNG I know that my 3060 is not a "good" card... I only bought it because I needed a card with 12Gb for Video editing and 40s were not out yet. (And it was finally time to replace my 680...LOL) Also the HP RV 2 has a high resolution compared to other VRs. But even a 3080 would not be able to deliver 90fps on high settings with AMS2...
I can get ~80fps with my rift s on rtx2060 in AMS2 on high/mid settings, the only other performant sims on VR are PC2 and AC, others like ACC and RF2 are way more laggy.
@@goneg1338 what's the resolution of the Rift? It's easy to run the HP at 50-70% resolution in almost every racing game ... But once you have seen it at full resolution you don't want to go lower ..
Thank you 🙏
Great tip, easy to do and makes a huge difference in my Reverb G2
Awesome stuff, glad it helps out! Some others like RaceRoom, iRacing and EA WRC have started to introduce this feature natively in the graphics settings but in AMS2 you have to go delving through a text file but definitely worth it 👍
I know this vid is a year old now but this was great information. Just picked up AMS2 and play exclusively in VR and this helped a lot thanks man!
Awesome stuff, happy to hear it came in useful! AMS2 is probably as good as it gets in VR at the moment, especially considering how well it runs without needing a super PC either, so you're onto something good 😉 now if only the AI could get a little love...
Wow... This is an incredible tip. I always found the distance rendering a bit noisy. This completely changed the game for me. Amazing. Subbed.
No problem, glad it helped out 😁 thanks for the sub!
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1000 thumbs up! Thanks for the 30 seconds to make AMS2 look as fantastic without any frame drops as it's taken me months to make AC look good in VR using CSP, Pure and dozens of pp filters
Thanks for the kind words 😁 really appreciate it! Happy this tip came in useful, AMS2 is arguably the most visually stunning VR racing sim out there and this can definitely help crisp up the image a little.
I have a 3080 with supersampling set to the last 1.1 settings and 90fps and there was something missing before.
If i set the supersampling any higher i was getting a performance hit but track on high, aliasing high, anistropic filtering on 8 and with these settings you provide in this vid had just turned ams2 into something beautiful.
Thank you so much for making this video dude.
You're more than welcome mate, glad it came in useful! It's a nifty little tweak to get a little more clarity/sharpness out of the image at no performance hit whatsoever 👍 especially useful in VR when you've already cranked up super sampling like you said.
for me supersampling (in Automobilista menu incl restarting the game) does not shows any difference, SS on 1.0, 1.2, 1. 5, 2.0 looks all exactly the same. what I am doing wrong? I restarted after every change the game of course and the valies are still in the menus correctly.
@@mh7711 may help to play around with your gpu settings in nvidia or amd whichever applies. If they are not the best then this will affect the outcome.
@@xtreemkiller7769 OK I will check, I have some settings for ams2, that are mentioned from other users. and I use 100% resolution in steamVr. in ACC for example when increasing vr supersampling resolution the graphics become incredible sharp.
Why can't I change super sampling in the game settings? My voice is obscured. Also I don't even have 4xMSAA, just off, low, medium and high?! Why?
This setting also works for Project Cars 2 as well. Thanks!
Awesome stuff 👍 good to know, thanks for testing it out.
I use OpenXR and all the goodies it provides, no idea if it works with Oculus but I'd definitely recommend it for WMR users (like Reverb G2).
I'll have a look into that, thanks for the tip 👍
Thanks for that. I've been on the fence a bit about trying AMS2. I use a ReverbG2 with OpenXR (which in my experience is superior to SteamVR to the point that switching to OpenXR was almost like getting a new higher-res VR helmet). Knowing that it plays nicely with my VR setup pushes me a little more to try AMS2.
@@DDFRacer Have you tested open XR yet ? most ppl are leaving steam VR for open XR.
@@ozziecoops I haven't tested it but haven't really felt the need to 👍 I don't use Steam VR since all of the sim racing titles I use are supported natively through Oculus.
I presume this won’t work with open xr as it bypasses steam vr.
I use G2 with 3080ti and it looks amazing in VR but game to try and improve it
That mustache definitely deserves a like.
But I mustache you a question: Do you like bad puns?
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Thanks for that. The difference is stunning.
No worries 😎 glad I could be of some help!
The way you counter steered in that open wheeler gave me anxiety - good catch!
Those F3 cars are squirrelly at the best of times 😅 so add in some extra moisture and it's definitely going to need a few corrections here and there...
Remember all, To right-click on that file and open with notepad :)
I took that for granted when recording this video but good tip for those who may not know 👍 thanks mate
And don't forget top save
Thanks saved me lol
Thank you for that. I just posted that question.
@@DDFRacer well you shouldn’t have because some of us are dumb asses…. Like me
Hey, glad I came across your video. I just run some extensive testing on both a Quest 2 and 3 and this is what I found:
First, changing the sharpness from 0 to 1 is way too much. It adds to "fuzziness" and jumping pixels at long distances, as another poster here pointed out. It becomes detrimental to the experience. So I changed it to .3 instead of 1. I also changed offsetbias to 1.02, although I'm not sure what it does but this value seemed to work well.
Second, I took several pics and videos of the before and after in order to carefully analyze the changes. Interestingly this only resulted in a better image, whether still or video - but it was not a representation of what you get live with the headset. Where the pics and movies looked awesome with a value of 1 for sharpness, it made for an unpleasant experience with the headset on, as noted above. This was true for both Quests 2 and 3. If you want to take pics to run your own tests, you will have to enable Experimental options in settings and enable voice commands. You will have to say "hey facefuckinbook - take a picture" or "start recording" then "stop recording". Double pressing the Meta button in the right controller does not work to bring up the voice commands (instead it will want to recentre the image).
Please note too that if you have a GPU that meets the minimum requirements (GTX1650 Super I think) then you have room to add some Super Sampling, found in the VR settings in AMS2. With both a GTX1660 Super and a 1070, on two different PCs, I have both set at 1.5. This will greatly improve the image quality and cuts back on the "jumpiness" but you will take a hit in fps. In my case it's hovering around 30fps, which is totally playable with a VR headset. This while having every other graphic setting on ultra (including shadows - we can thank the Madness engine for this, it is super efficient). Those that think you must achieve a fps of 80 or more else you're not man enough, is just missing out on image quality. I'd much rather race at 28fps and be able to see the end of a straightway from a distance then to brag about getting 100+ fps with an image so pixelated you're pretty much running blind.
Anyway, this was a worthy tip. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed.
Anything below 80 in every vr headset I've ever tried is just not a good experience at all. Worse than playing flat. You must have some special eyes to be able to play at those frame rates. I mean the latency alone would be detrimental.
@@zacharywilliams2904 The fact that you claim to have tested it in EVERY vr headset tells me that your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. And if your experience indeed yields a poor result in the headset that you own at a fps of below 80 to be poor then it leads me to believe your gear isn't that efficient. With a vast combination of GPU and headsets in the market I suppose that experiences will vary per each individual set up. But your claim that anything below 80 fps to result in a poor experience leads me to believe you haven't got much experience in the subject. But your input is welcome nonetheless.
Thanks for testing out a few different settings on a few headsets I've never used, always good to get more feedback and hopefully it'll come in useful for anyone else who might watch this and scroll through the comments section 👍
That said, I might have to disagree with you on the fps point you raised. I've found that running lower than the native refresh rate of the headset is very noticeable and not in a nice way. It starts stuttering and chopping the image, especially when moving your head quickly to check the mirror or look out the side window for example. Most headsets offer an asynchronous warp setting which will drop to half frames (for example 80 down to 40) if the GPU is struggling and then interpolate the missing frames, but this introduces a lot of glitches around fast moving objects such as catch fencing in the peripheral vision. It's also worth noting that it's not physically possible to get better fps than the refresh rate of the headset, so if it can only do 80fps then it'll cap out and won't get any better than that. At this point you might as well max as many settings as you can otherwise you're not using the full potential of the GPU or VR.
A lot of people suffer from motion sickness when lower frame rates or warping starts to kick in and, although you might be one of the few who either doesn't notice it or isn't bothered by it, I think I'd speak for the majority when I say that pushing the headset down as low as 28fps is a horrible experience. It's not really about bragging rights or who's man enough, I personally couldn't care less what kind of numbers my GPU is pumping out but if I start dropping frames in the VR then it's something I can notice immediately and it's absolutely jarring and gives me a headache.
I've upgraded to a 3080 these days so don't have too many issues anymore, but a few years ago I was running the Nvidia 1080 and it would struggle on higher settings or bigger grids, I got caught out online a few times with settings that were too high and had to race with bad stuttering/low fps and really struggled to drive the car properly. Not having that fluid motion made it so much harder to judge what my car was doing and also judge the space to other cars and objects around me. I'd much rather sacrifice a bit of detail and clarity to maintain the higher framerates and fluid motion/image. Like I said though, that's just me 😎 everyone's mileage may vary.
@@DDFRacer I agree, since posting this I turned the refresh rate back to 120hz, as well as the resolution back to native. Not that my weak gpu can keep up but it seem better. Of course I'm speaking from the point of view of someone on the low end of the world of VR, given my weak GPUs. So my plan is to try and get the best possible experience out of the equipment I have at my disposal. Thankfully I'm not prone to motion sickness, else this would be a horrible experience. Although in some instances I have experienced some it, usually during crashes when your car is sent spinning. Perhaps this doesn't happen at 100+ fps but again, I can only relate to my own experience. Taking a hit on fps to the point it hovers at around 30fps in order to gain better clarity is advantageous over higher fps with poor image quality - then again this from someone that saw an improvement and doesn't suffer from motion sickness. Mileage will vary, so anyone reading this, please try to see what works for you.
This is why I listed my two GPUs in my comment, so others with similar hardware can try and learn from some of these many tips out there in order to improve their experience. Didn't want to give the impression that I'm against those with 4090s, in case it came across as such. Heaven knows I'd love to get one of these, but kids and all the expenses they incur take priority over toys. Wouldn't I love to race every track at max graphic setting at 100 fps. Maybe once the kids grow up and move out.
I'm still trying to see what works best. Clearly a Quest 3 is an improvement over the Q2, even with below average equipment like mine. That's why I was so pleased to come across your video, lots of great tips here.
Yeah I know that feeling well, I'm raising a little kiddo myself too and all non-essential expenses tend to get put on hold 😅 I'm lucky to have already upgraded my GPU a few years ago and would love to get a VR upgrade as well, such as the Quest 3, but that'll have to wait for a little while I think. The trusty old CV1 soldiers on 👍
I can’t imagine still using a CV1 these days. Time for an upgrade my friend.
I've thought about getting an upgrade many times before but no matter how much research I do, nothing strikes me as being better than what I currently have. Nothing stands out like "yes, this is the one!" and makes me want to buy it. I hear nothing but negatives about newer Oculus headsets, whether it's the wireless quality drops (don't forget I'd also be using my network for streaming at the same time and even more prone to artefacts) or lower build quality such as the straps. Sure it'd be nice to have a higher resolution and sharper image, but the other aspects that come along with it just don't appeal to me. It's also not cheap to upgrade either 😅 so until my CV1 physically stops working and dies then I'll keep on using it.
@@DDFRacer Get a Bigscreen Beyond when it launches later this year.
The size/weight/comfort + image quality is going to be out of this world. Will feel like at least 2 generations ahead of CV1.
I'm waiting for that one. I went from CV1 to Samsung Odyssey Plus, and now waiting for Beyond as a true next generation leap.
I went from a CV1 to a Quest 2 and never looked back, the graphical difference is enormous :) Especially AMS2 looks absolutely stunning in VR 🤩
@@DDFRacerhonestly, you'd find the difference between your current headset and a quest 3 using virtual desktop mind blowing. Now I do have a dedicated wifi 6e router so that helps, but regardless virtual desktop is brilliant. It uses the idle processing power in the quest 3 to provide additional super sampling, as well as kicking in the best reprojection I've ever seen (space warp) when needed. Try it, it's well worth it.
Upgrade incoming. Watch this space next week 👀
Thanks for the tip. Gonna try it later today 👍
No worries mate, I'd be keen to see if you like it or not! It definitely makes things sharper but also can highlight jaggies around the edges on newer headsets so you might need to dial it down a bit 🤔
Perfect timing just got ams2 2 days ago
Awesome stuff! Make sure to try it out default first though and get a feel for it 👍
Great video. Thanks for the tip.
Do you know if these settings will work with OpenComposite/OpenXR which I'm using with my HP Reverb G2 V2, and get a solid 90 FPS. There's always room to improve image quality and sharpness. 😎👍🏼
Hey Merv, thanks for the kind words mate! Pretty sure this will work with any method of running VR in AMS2, just need to find the correct text file which your game is referencing and make the changes outlined in the video 👍
@roberty21 what resolution do you set in OpenXr Toolkit? I am not able set higer than 2600px for constant 90 fps (sunny day) with my Rtx 3090.
Hello, would it be the same for the Oculus 3 viewer? Thank you very much for the advice.
I don't see any reason why not 😎 although the Quest 3 has better clarity to begin with so the gains might not be as apparent compared to an older headset. My best advise would be to try a few different values and see what works best for you 👍
Thats a big difference!
Sure is 👍 it might be subtle but it definitely crisps everything up a little, especially in the distance, which is where VR headsets tend to struggle the most compared to a monitor. Glad it helped 😎
Well done mate, will give that a try. Cheers!
Hope this comes in useful 👍
I have a quest 3 and 6800xt, running 90hz at 4864x2592 this def helped . Using link cable and 22 AI cars
Good stuff, that sounds promising. I realise my CV1 is not going to last forever and out of all the options I've been researching, the Quest 3 is probably the one I'm going to pick 👍
@@DDFRacerI just got mine yesterday, the first expression was 😮🤩🤩🤩….. the way it looks is so much better, everything looks so clear and beautiful…
If you change at some point definitely you should try it, it’s a not going back after you tried..!!!
Thanks for the tip!!
Great tip, it looks really nice now
Happy to hear it came in useful for you 😎
Hi mate.
What does changing the offset bias do?
A guy on Reddit mentioned he only changed the sharpening.
From my understanding, the offset bias affects the distance at which the sharpening takes effect. In this instance with my settings mentioned in the video, objects that are closer have slightly less sharpening applied since it's already pretty clear in your vision, however objects that take up less space on the screen because they're further away will receive more of the sharpening effect. Here's a more technical explanation from the forums:
Offset (0.0->6.0, default 1.0) - the offset from the current pixel for the sampling pattern (so if it's 1 it will sample neighbouring pixels, any less and it will bias towards the central pixel, any more and it will start sampling pixels outside the normal kernel).
@@DDFRacer great! Thanks for all the info :)
Yeah I’ve stuck with what I had before. It’s just way too sharp for me.
Everyone is different I suppose. For me, going back to FXAA on low looks better.
@@richwatson1985 absolutely mate! Each to their own and whatever works best 😎 no right or wrong way as long as it looks good to you.
omg your still on the cv1? have you tried the G2?
Sure am 😉 I've had it for over five years now and it's been solid as a rock, I'll keep on using it until it dies completely. I've never used or even tried another VR headset unfortunately, I've looked at getting an upgrade but, to be honest, for the money involved I can't seem to to justify the expense whilst the CV1 is still going strong. The newer Oculus headsets don't fill me with confidence (melted charging ports, quality drops over wireless, lower build quality etc) and switching to a non Oculus based headset would need me to completely re-do my streaming capture set up since my live chat/telemetry overlays all use the built in Oculus software and are optimised to capture from the Oculus mirror. I mean, it could be done, but why spend the money and time doing that when the current setup works more than fine?
Any difference for quest 2? I still end up playing more frequently on the monitor because the VR is not very comfortable.
Yep this should work for any VR headset 👍 although on the more modern ones it'll make less of a difference as the resolution of the display improves.
i use a cv1 still too. i prefer the oled response time vs the lcd alternatives
To be honest, until my CV1 actually stops working I'll be sticking with it 👍 it's a great headset eh? Sure, I could get a better resolution with a Quest 2 or something but the CV1 is super comfortable and just works really well.
@@DDFRacer I upgraded my cv1 to the quest 2 and then the HP reverb g2 and ended up downgrading back to my cv1. I actually liked it so much that I purchased two of them from ebay. The build quality and weight are just great. The resolution upgrade was nice with the new headsets, but LCD is so inferior to OLED. You get much more blur when you're actually in motion with LCD. It removes the essence of being in VR imo. This directly correlates with PSVR's positive review success. The lower resolution of the cv1 also made it super easy to max games out and when you're in motion the resolution doesn't matter as much. I just wish it had more FOV and 120hz. My next upgrade will probably be the Bigscreen Beyond headset.
@@Amp1tude I upgraded from CV1 to Rift S to Quest 2 to Pico 4. Each of these upgrades gave a very noticable boost in visual clarity. Was any of these upgrades a complete game changer? Not really. Where any of these ugprades "necessary"? Not really. Did I regret any of the ugrades? Not really.
But I imagine going straight from a CV1 to a Pico 4 would be like seeing the world with glasses for the first time for someone who has some serious blurred vision. Also since the Quest 2 and now Pico 4 I've been using Virtual Desktop for wireless VR. While for race sims the wire isn't really a big deal I still couldn't go back to wired VR now.
@@linko994 When you talk about visual clarity you are simply referring to the resolution. The CV1 does everything else better than those other headsets. OLED panel superiority. Black level superiority. Contrast superiority, response time superiority, build quality superiority. The supersampled images on the CV1 were pretty clear compared to the quest 2's native. They require about the same processing power. Reading text would be the biggest con of the CV1, but most vr games are designed for lower resolutions anyways. This will change one day. The other con being 90hz only. For Sim racing I would say resolution matters the most and doing the upgrade will be worth it, but for VR gaming in general I think the CV1 is the best bang for the buck still and does things much better than most headsets. Having wireless introduces inputlag, which I did measure. I'm sensitive to it. For Sim racing it isn't a big deal. The new Bigscreen VR headset is the only one I'd consider upgrading from my CV1 to. It's $1,000 though...
Gamechanger ! Thank you so much 🎉
Awesome stuff 😎 happy to hear that!
Thanks for tip. I already had it on some different numbers before my new gpu. Now on quest 2 looks even better after the card upgrade... I'm good to go now.
Also there are some things to be changed in oculus debug tool. Pixel per display on 1.1 or something. Definitely worth is setup FOV multiplier on. 0.8 and 0.8, than restart as administrator and than connect quest 2.. (for anyway who read this)
Awesome stuff, and thanks for the advice re Oculus debug tool too 👍 not everybody is aware of that but it's definitely worth knowing.
The reason sharpening isn't used heavily, is because its a high motion game, and sharpening usually never scales well with constantly moving images, im sure theres a sweet spot of a subtle bump in clarity before shimmering takes place.
This is really only good for a high resolution headsets, anything on low will have its shimmer aliasing exacerbated, sharpening is simply not free super sampling, and comments like such just show how new you are to the understanding of various shaders, in this case sharpening.
Good to know, thanks 👍 always an opportunity to learn new things. Can definitely say I don't go overboard on this feature as it does cause a lot of artefacts the harder you push it, like you say, but on an older headset like my CV1 with a lower resolution it certainly helps make things like corner markers and kerbs a little clearer at greater distances.
is a quest 2 considered low ? I only ask because i'm thinking of doing this myself.
When using native 100% resolution in the Reverb G2 with 3140 pixels per eye and little bit filtering, then the additional sharpness/clarity is very very nice! Users with an rtx 4090 can go even higer, I think 120-130% resolution without problems
This may be a really stupid question, but do I have to open notebook and copy and paste? because it won’t let me delete the zero change the 0 to 1 or do anything to it.
Ah righto, yes 👍 double clicking these files automatically opens them in notepad on my computer but if that's not the case for you then yeah, right click and open with notepad, make the changes and then make sure to save the file. Hope you get it sorted.
Left a like for the great tip and the stache :)
You're welcome mat, glad it came in useful! As for the stache, ah yes, that's my alter ego 'Bulk Brogan' who's making his way through an entire AMS2 Racing Life career at the moment. Needed a new identity for the playthrough and nothing better than a stick on moustache to disguise yourself right? 😅
Great tip! Thank you.
No problem 😎 glad it was useful!
I think they made this change in the latest update. Mine was already set when i went to change it.
Interesting 🤔 I'll have to look in to that. The way to check would be to make a backup of the file, delete it, then get Steam to verify files which would put a brand new one in its place with the latest default settings.
Are you using open xr or anything aswell ?
Nope, just running AMS2 through Oculus natively 👍
Buena cosa nano 😂❤ , gracias 🫂🔝🥇💪🙌🐐
Does this tweak work when your playing on a monitor?
I haven't tried it myself but I see no reason why not 👍 although you'd have to modify the standard xml file instead of the oculus one.
Thanks for the vid, AMS2 is really amazing in VR. Just a quick question, if anyone has issue with Meta Quest 2 that when I race at night, I can see these annoying antialiasing around the wings and gaps of body panels on other cars, almost look like some static? I maxed out the graphics and resolution and using link cable but still the same. I was running DPI cars in Spa at night.
Thanks!
I have this too
Yeah I have this as well, I think it's just one of the drawbacks of the rendering engine unfortunately, possibly related to motion blur or depth of field where some of the car gets put out of focus but other parts don't 🤔 I'll have a play around and see if I can find the exact cause.
Just comes with computer racing.. its so annoying though :(
Hi is this tip still relevant to today's latest version 1.5.x ?
Sure is! VR is still handled the same way and the files should be in the same place too 😎
@@DDFRacer excellent!!! thank you
Does this help against guardtrail flimmering?
Hey Manu, I can't say that I've experienced this issue so I'm not sure if it would help or not. I would recommend posting on the Reiza forums but I can see you already did that on Friday and haven't had a response unfortunately 😅 best thing you can do is give it a try and see for yourself if it fixes it then let me know. Should only take a couple of minutes to find out 👍
@@DDFRacer thanks :)
Might come in handy for someone I know ;)
Anyone I might know too? 😉
Where can I find information about the overlay used in 00:30?
It's a custom designed HUD I've made using SimHub 👍 you can download a copy for free and get the install instructions on my Discord server, link in the description.
do you kown a command line to insert in the shortcut to open in VR?
Unfortunately not mate, I launch AMS2 through Steam which has a pop up selection for which mode you'd like to use.
awesome on quest 3
Good to know that even with all the extra pixels on the Quest 3 this can still make a nice difference 👍
That's great thanks! I wonder if there's something like this for F1 2022, i feel like someone smeared vasole over my Oculus lenses!
Can't help you with that one unfortunately 😅 I only managed a few hours in F122 thanks to multiple blue screens of death and terrible performance, ultimately uninstalling and getting a refund.
Is this trick work well on quest 3?
Sorry for the late reply! I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with the Quest 3 since it's just modifying a text file, although I haven't used this headset so couldn't really comment on how effective it is. The Quest 3 already has a pretty good resolution to begin with according to the specs so it might not be too noticeable, although the best way to find out would be to give it a try and see what you think 👍
@@DDFRacer Dont worry its better late than never right. Yep i will give it a go my quest 3 will arrived in few days.
@@LeMamour Did you try it? If so, did you notice any diff? I have a quest 2 that so could use any bit of help, especially when looking down the straighways. Just got a quest 3 and not sure if the settings would be different (or if it even makes a diff on the q3)
@@Slakass55 Honestly i forgot about this trick, i follow the trick of the oculus debug tool (file inside oculus folder/support). The graphics on AMS2 a amazing with that. Now this morning i did the trick of DDFRacer, when i first did my quest 3 kinda bug at the launch some stuttering (i got a 6750 XT with I5 13400). I then restart pc and headset, lauch the game again and everything run smooth with a slightly better graphics it seems. I will continue compare the two versions.
@@LeMamour Just tried the debug tool, it did nothing for me. Couldn't see a single benefit from it, despite several tries with diff settings. Changing resolution also didn't help clear things up while keeping a decent fps. So at the end what worked best was changing the sharpness to .4 and increasing the super sampling to 1.7 in the app. This gives the best possible image on a gtx 1070 while retaining around 30fps, which is very playable on a Quest 2 without any slowdowns. And the above also proves true for the Quest 3, which looks a lot better in AMS2
I'm opening the game with Steam VR for Windows Mixed Reality, (openVR was not working well for me) but I don't have the graphicsconfigdx11 file - just the oculus one. Any clues?
That's an odd one 🤔 just checked my folder and I've definitely got that file there, no idea why you wouldn't, although I'm not running through Steam VR or Mixed Reality so not too familiar with how they work unfortunately. Your best bet would be searching on the Reiza forums or posting a new thread if you can't find anything 👍
@@DDFRacer thank you! I did find it, but in the Documents folder, not the Install folder, heh
i never played Automobilista 2 in VR. But from your video i see that in VR the graphics is better. why?
The graphics engine that Automobilista 2 uses is very well optimised, meaning that you can push it harder than other racing sims but still get the same level of performance. Whether it's at sunset, in the rain, surrounded by headlights or multiple cars on track, AMS2 just seems to run very smoothly so you can afford to increase the settings 👍
That's because the video captured is off his monitor and not from the headset. On either the quest 2 or 3, the image quality is a lot worse than what you see here. Still nice but not the gorgeous clarity and definition you see here. There basically are two types of recordings, I have never tried to save a recording right from the Quest. Not sure i'd want to.
Doesn’t cranking up the supersampling setting within the vr game settings do the same thing ?
Kind of. Supersampling sharpens the image by rendering it at a higher resolution and then resizing it back down again, using a fair chunk of your GPU in the process, whereas this method applies a sharpening filter directly to the original image at no extra performance cost.
Thanks for the tip!
No worries, happy to help Perts 😉 hope it makes a nice difference for you
1:48 What’s the name of this track?
Donington Park 👍
For me OpenXR doesnt bring any performance-boost or graphical visual boost, I testet >60 hours every single option back and forward. But I use OpenXR only because of the possibility to improove the very weak contrasty look to something very contrastful realistic look. For ACC switching to OpenXR brought a massive boost in visuals and performance. Overall ACC with OpenXR looks way more nicer/realistic and even sharper than AMS2 with same performance (stable 90hz) on my hp reverb g2 with RTX 3090. So I dont understand why some people say that AMS2 is nicer in VR than ACC, after tweaking and modding it is not correct. Also the sound experience of ACC is so much better than in AMS2. But ACC hass way less cars and tracks, that is the downside..
I must admit I haven't tried OpenXR but I might give it a try as performance in ACC has been severely lacking for me regardless of the hardware I've used. That said, this video refers to a simple text edit which increases the clarity in AMS2 with no performance hit whatsoever 👍
I agree. ACC's UE is not made for vr users. BUT with the best hardware even ACC is able to run with 90fps everything maxed out.
As you said. ACC looks pretty damn sexy. I run a rtx 4090 + 5800x3d.
My ACC with openxr and reverbg g2 looks better than ams2. Even rfactor2 from 2013 looks maxed out better than ams2.
Ams2 has a incredible good vr performance. No need for costy hardware to enjoy a good looking sim race title
How do you know that its actually running in openxr? Just the fact that steam VR doesn't load?
@@robloyst4514 i See the OpenXR toolkit Menu
Can you post your OpenXr settings for ACC?
I'd love to try this out but unfortunately I still have to find out how to make it actually work in VR in my Quest 2 😅
I only have a 2D curved screen inside the headset through Meta Link, even if I properly started the game in Oculus Mode from Steam.
Had anyone has this issue too?
Hmmn that is odd 🤔 not sure what's going on there and can't say I've had that issue before. I'm not using a Quest 2 so don't need to worry about using link since my CV1 is wired in directly, but normally when you start in Oculus mode even the menu should be in 3d space instead of a 2d curved screen. Can't help you with that one I'm afraid, have you tried posting up on the Reiza forums to see if anyone can help?
@@DDFRacer Hi ! :)
Found out it was because unknown sources wasn't activated in the Oculus PC app, so Steam VR couldn't start 😅
Now I'm in VR, but for whatever reason, there's no sound when the Quest is selected as sound output. Everything else works : headphones, speakers and screen speakers... Another troubleshooting for another day 😁
thx
You're welcome 😎
With my quest 2 and a 3060 its impossible lol Everything is flickering, dull as hell. Too annoying. Kinda like not having your glasses on... Not sure how people can stand all the aliasing and blur..BTW, those videos you are showing here. Thats not what it actually looks like in the oculus is it? Id die to have that kind of resolution!!!
Can't say I've ever used a Quest 2 but that doesn't sound too encouraging 🤔 sorry to hear that mate! I was considering one for an upgrade but might be having a few second thoughts now. As for the footage you see on the screen, that's a direct mirror of the same image being sent to the VR headset in the left eye I believe, otherwise AMS2 would need a whole heap more resources to render a new image for the recording. I loaded up a replay file and placed the headset on the floor to get a stable image, but it's definitely what I'm seeing in the headset 👍
Since you have a powerful gpu, you will want to play with the super sampling setting. In the Options, look for the VR section. It goes from 1 to 2, in .1 increments. My gpu is just a 1070 so the max I can get away with is 1.6 but that alone makes a world of difference, at the cost of fps. If you can get around 26 fps at the max SS setting of 2, you'd be golden. A lot less flickering, shadows look good, it's a lot nicer. Although with the Quest 3 it's even nicer as the image is more detailed. Oh and put everything else on ultra. It won't drop the fps, believe it or not. However remove all the lighting effects like bloom, flare, etc.
@@Slakass55cool I’ll give a shot. Btw. How is image in 3 vs 2?
@@robloyst4514same here with RX7600 it’s giving me a hard time to set it playable. (Quest 2)
In game resolution ya guys are using 1080p!?
After a long deep in to it I can get 60-65fps (1080p MID setting in game and SS 1.0), so 1.4 in debug tools and HIGH settings in Virtual Desktop…I think I squeezed all the juice from my system and feels totally playable and very acceptable graphics (good) for my modest playtime (just fun), getting 75-80°c on gpu spot too.
Hi, I don’t see anything in the documents folder. Why could this be?
Are you looking in the AMS2 folder in My Documents or the AMS2 folder where your Steam library is located? These files are in the My Documents AMS2 sub folder 👍 _not_ in the main My Documents folder itself or in the Steam files. If you still can't find them then I'm at a bit of a loss unfortunately as this is where I have them on my setup.
Awsome vid, treat your self to a quest 2 for x mas
I've had a look at more modern headsets but nothing really grips my fancy or stands out, seems like most newer models take a step back in some areas compared to the CV1. Sure the resolution on the quest is better but I've not heard many positive things about the wireless compression/artefacts, latency, battery life, pupil distance adjustment etc. If the Quest 2 is perhaps a first VR headset then it might be fine, but I'm struggling to find any good reviews or experiences from people who've upgraded unfortunately 🤔
@@DDFRacer I can recommend pimax 5k super, i race open wheel fr 3.5 and need the higher refresh rate it can do, 120, 144, 165, tracking is flawless with htc base station and wide field of view handy for judging cars beside
@@DDFRacer I went from Rift S to Quest 2, so I'll pick up your points, in case it's of interest.
Playing without the wire is really nice but you have to be the only user on the 5GHz band. Latency and compression artefacts aren't really an issue, given the significant increase in fidelity and you are sim racing so 80-100ms lag is not noticeable (to me at least). It really does look loads better. That said, it is definitely more faff than the direct-to-GPU wire, as you have to click into desktop link mode and from time to time the link breaks for whatever reason. It is a bit annoying and probably not acceptable for you, as you could be streaming when it happens. The extra pressure on your GPU is also significant.
Pupil distance was not a problem for me, but not sure how lucky I had to be for that to be the case.
Battery and comfort are both solved with the BoboVR M2 Plus, but that's another £100.
Basically it's a bit of a hassle, but for me worth it. The Rift S went straight to ebay! All non-racing VR games are loads better without the wire, and it's one less thing to untangle when racing so I use wireless there too.
Please help me. How can i recenter de comera in VR?, I have tried every thing
There is a button you have to map in your control settings which then allows you to recenter the VR view 👍
Thanks!!!!!
No worries, you're welcome mate 😎
Just liking for the click bait
Oh you 😎
Even better with a Oculus CV1 . Hehe, that’s good.
Hey 😅 any boost on visuals I can get helps, besides not only does this really make a nice difference on headsets with lower resolutions, it can also help bring things into focus on newer headsets too.
@@DDFRacer Thanks for your answer and of course you are right. I just thought it was quite funny. I had the Oculus CV1 once and I know that you have to count signs rather than read them. hehe. I'm surprised that you still use the CV1 as a VR driver :-).
@@ThePape78 I've thought about upgrading many times but whenever I do my research I find lots of negatives which discourage me from spending any extra money while the CV1 is still alive. I know I could definitely run at higher resolutions than I do right now, but talk of IPD adjustment issues, melted USB ports, quality/latency drops in wireless, snapped headbands etc really puts me off. I haven't found a replacement model that excites me enough to take the plunge 🤔
@@DDFRacer RIGHT, im looking for a pristine CV1 replacement, mines is starting to look rough IDK the CV1 is just so awesome
Be nice to do this with F1 2022.
Same for DiRT Rally 2.0 as well, another Codemasters title which could desperately do with looking a little nicer and sharper in VR 👍
I cant get any of my racing games to look good in VR on my quest 3. They all just look like a blurry mess
I haven't used a Quest 3 myself, only the CV1 mentioned in this video, but I know a few people have said that the headset is bitrate limited and can cause compression issues, like a poor quality RUclips video, sometimes. Have you tried upping the bitrate in the Oculus/Meta software?
in oculusdebugtool change the encoding bitrate to 940 and enjoy.
For the life of me I can't find these files in main AM2 folder, can anyone point me in the right direction please? Thanks 🙏🏻
Are you looking in the AMS2 folder in My Documents or the AMS2 folder where your Steam library is located? These files are in the My Documents AMS2 folder 👍 but if you're already looking there and can't see the files then I'm at a bit of a loss unfortunately as this is where I have them on my setup.
@@DDFRacer thanks, I didn't realise there would be another folder outside of main game folder, I'll take a look at My Documents, thanks! Great content btw 👌🏻
I just tried this out and on my rift s and it looks worse, there is more noticeable aliasing and its less pleasant to look at, maybe at 0.2 its ok but at that point there is barely any difference.
the only way to have better graphics is to buy 4090 and max antialiasing and super sampling :)
Thanks for the feedback mate, good to know 👍 just out of curiosity what Anti Aliasing and Supersampling settings are you running? If it's at a lower resolution or maybe there are jaggies to begin with then this might actually be what's making it look worse like you said.
@@DDFRacer I use full resolution with texture filtering set to anisotropic 8x and msaa to high, rift s does not have enough resolution to prevent aliasing and I prefer the image to be softer because then its harder to spot the pixels, everything blends together, sharpening the image does not add detail just differentiates the pixels and adds ringing artifacts that I find annoying and unpleasant to look at.
@@goneg1338 Can't disagree with that at all mate 👍and that's the beauty of these things, they can be subjective. What looks nice to one person might not look nice to someone else and if we all liked the same things then art and design would get boring pretty quickly 😉
@@DDFRacer4090 owner here. Reverb g2 = super sampling x1.2 via openxr, msaa middle, ingame SS 1.0, AF x16. Overall graphoc settings high/ultra. 90fps no issues. It's beatiful indeed. Thanks to the madness engine. Super nice!
how come i cant change the numbers?
Make sure you're right clicking and opening with Notepad instead of directly double clicking and opening the file in your browser as read only 👍
@DDF Racer got it thanks for the reply
im a non vr user ... but has anyone tried the nvidia filter settings .. good for colour balance .. but not tried the
sharpening ... on a separate note go Bulk !
Can't say I have tried them to be honest 🤔 I'll give it a look but generally I try and avoid changing nvidia settings that affect things on a global level as they may conflict with individual program settings and cause some funky results.
@@DDFRacer to my knowledge they only adjust the game you use it in.
its done when in game by pressing alt/F3 ...
where you can select/adjust ... turn on/ off.
you do have to have geforce experience installed for it to work.
My ams 2 is stuck at next up screem
I'm not familiar with that screen unfortunately 🤔 have you tried searching/posting on the Reiza forums to see if anyone else has had (and found a solution for) the same issue?
@DDFRacer, I've searched in some forums and the AMS2 subreddit and, unfortunately, didn't find any solution. The "Next Up" screen shows when loading games in SteamVR.
Edit: i just found out that the problem was in my microsoft username and the utilization of foreign caracters.
All i want to know : What is the fliping button to tell my game what: I, me , my Senses, my Gut, and every other fiber of my Body know is FRONT.
Dont get me wrong, i am open for new Opinions but... if i have to turn my Head 45- 90 degrees Right to look out my windsheeld im not feeling like the problem.
But i have to be it. Because if not, someone would have implementet a.. dont kow.. option/butten/slider to reset this Right?
ey did not.
In the settings menu, under your controllers/devices, there should be an option to map a button/key to reset the VR position based on where your head is currently pointed 👍 there will also be options for seat forwards/backwards and up/down too. I'm not sure what they are by default and these will change depending on the type of wheel or device you're using too, but the options are definitely there.
@@DDFRacer Thank you kind Stranger.
After my Recovery i found it.
It Just hits you Like a straw in your throat you diddnt expect.
i loveee
Thank you 😁
I like sharpeningstrength=0.5 and sharpeningclamp=0.5
Still not sure what offsetbias does exactly
If it's similar to iRacing then it'll be the distance at which sharpening takes effect maybe? Will have to have a play around to check, but it could possibly be used to make close objects such as the cockpit sharper without applying too much to distant objects like trees and clouds etc.
Do you mean sharpening strength 1.5 .. not 0.5 ?
Guau se ve tremendo
or buy a RTX4090 and set everything to ultra ......works fine for me LOL
Well, true 😜 but not everyone has the budget for that unfortunately.
@DDFRacer one of the benefits of being older...
Why is everybody telling you that AMS2 is good (best) for VR? I have a 3060 and a HP Rv 2 V2 ... And the ONLY game I can play at full resolution in VR is AC ...90 fps ..(with minimum settings ...) ???
@@hdvrNG I know that my 3060 is not a "good" card... I only bought it because I needed a card with 12Gb for Video editing and 40s were not out yet. (And it was finally time to replace my 680...LOL) Also the HP RV 2 has a high resolution compared to other VRs. But even a 3080 would not be able to deliver 90fps on high settings with AMS2...
I can get ~80fps with my rift s on rtx2060 in AMS2 on high/mid settings, the only other performant sims on VR are PC2 and AC, others like ACC and RF2 are way more laggy.
@@goneg1338 what's the resolution of the Rift? It's easy to run the HP at 50-70% resolution in almost every racing game ... But once you have seen it at full resolution you don't want to go lower ..
@@melog72 1440p while reverb is 2160p so 66%, but 3060 is a lot more powerful than 2060.
@@goneg1338 thats not how how it works ... Rift S has 3.6 MP while HP has 9.3 MP ... Almost 3x the pixles... (1280x1440x2 compared to 2160x2160x2)
Get gt7. Problem solved.
Any chance you can get me a PS5 as well? Cheers in advance ✌️