I would love VR support on it. Always perfectly optimized and the best open worlds for driving... I bet it isn't that hard or even already done internally but not sold for xbox equity.
Due to some serious injuries, I have been bed ridden and will not be using my racing rig for a long time. But I can use my HP reverb G2 while lying in bed using an xbox controller. I am all banged up unable to walk and in a body cast, but can still kill it on a racetrack in VR. My physical therapist is so impressed that she is looking into incorporating VR with some of her clients.
Don't listen to this channel, he didn't even mention AC's thousands of mods and open world maps + traffic mods and litteraly everything you can think of
My guy my guy…. Assetto Corsa has a HUGE modding community with hundreds of drift cars, tracks, and maps. It also has filtering mods for VR enhancement😂
AC is old hat.. physics are meh despite all the amazing things modders have been able to do. It's simple and runs fast on a low-end pc however. PC2?... just no. the physics are like ice-skating.
I've always had mixed feelings about AMS2's handling, but the 1.4 update was a huge improvement in the handling part and now for me it's tied with ACC on the top spot.
is it really that significantly better? i felt same and havent tried it for some months. Is the ffb also different now? that was my main issue, couldnt feel things naturally, bumps and grass, traction loss werent good enough. even with ffb "fixes"
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j it is really good now mate, not sure exactly what they did but i think they changed the tyre model or something. there is a lot of detail in the ffb now
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j performance could be better, but it's good enough if you make some compromises. Then enters the most important element which is the illusion given by the conjunction of being in VR, having a tactile experience (FFB) which matches the visual cues you are getting, and finally, the cars' actual handling/physics. This theme only makes sense if we do not look at it strictly from a graphical point of view.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j I play with an HP G2 at 120% openXR, with a mix of ultra, high an medium settings, with an 4080S and 5800X3D, silk smooth at 90HZ, with 16 visible cars, at NUrbring, night or rain with GT3 or GTE, with 5% to 20% of performance left. For me is the best of all, i have all the sims.
If you have a Quest 2, you don-t need Steam VR to use Assetto Corsa in VR, it has a native Oculus rendering mode which gives you a good 10fps overhead.
I don’t know why I even watch videos like this. I always think “cool I’ll find some new games!” Meanwhile I still play dirt rally 101% of the time haha
I can only speak about AC using a Reverb G2, but it runs much better in OpenXR than SteamVR - to the point that when I made the shift it was almost like getting a new VR headset. If you can be bothered running AC via Content Manager, install and configure Sol and Pure, and work your way through the Custom Shaders Patch labyrinth, AC can also look fantastic.
When you are in VR in Pcars2, try walk outside from your car and look at the opponents. They all suddenly look like a big rectangular block only, just like when someone first started a project in autocad LOL maybe that's why it performs so well? But then if you do the same in AC, all other cars are still rendered pretty well and you could even crouch down and look at the information on the tire. I had a VR car meet with friends and we could stand around our cars and chat at the Green Hell carpark, it was an amazing experience.
pc2 is underrated. amazing even outside of vr, but absolutely most stunning in vr. the cars handle very good as well, maybe a few of them have issues but main ones are great
@@concern2514 it has been removed by the dev studio because of expiring licenses, you might still find it from third-party sellers or maybe find a cracked version
This misses RF2 imo, while rf2 in itself is a hassle to setup for me it's the most problem free VR gaming time (apart from maybe AMS2) Performs fine in VR, and with the still top notch physics id definitely deserves an honorable mention! :)
RF2 kinda disqualified themselves for me, having me pay twice for lifetime-online subscription and consequently dropping it after a year or so... I kinda never looked at it since...
Really? I thought the vr ui in rf2 was atrocious. I had to take off my headset multiple times to setup races. I like it when I can do everything inside the headset like in pc2 and dirt rally 2
All I would say is if you look at any expensive VR motion based sim racing experiences even up to the ones in the millions they all use assetto corsa as base software, and with modding you can get any car and track combo such as all the F1 tracks and cars it may not be officially licensed F1 content but it's bloody good...
I have them all (main) exp iracing....AC has to be the best for pure driving experience then AMS and pc2. Acc is hard to beat for gt racing experience though vr is not great!
I search Google for arcade VR racing games and it gives me this as the top result. Not a single arcade style racing game in the bunch. These are good games and I have most of them, but I'm wanting something more arcady right now. This isn't the video creator's fault of course.
PC2 is pretty good in VR, but it's such a shame that Slightly Mad Studios practically abandoned it after release. AMS 2/Reiza capitalized on the engine very well, actually enabling Full Course Yellows (and working on future iterations of it) since SMS just... didn't want to. F1 22's VR is just unoptimized still, and it's really annoying. I shouldn't have the menus/game flashing on my headset on a 3070, when any other racing game I have (that has VR) works fine.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j my FFB in AMS2 kicks ass.. I'm using Fanatec CSL and it's amazing. Closer to real cars than some other sims. It isn't quite ACC.. but it's close.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j T500 RS had no problems with ffb.. I just scroll through the list and nothing really appeals to me.. I like racing old crap on long street circuits.. and it's lacking in that department.. and no modding support.. so it's not like the community can make their own..
@@TraxionGG and hours superb fun because of ingame chat :D You pressed "T" and could write something. I played so much that for a year i was pressing "t" every time when I would to write something in other communicators, so it was like : tHi, tWhat's up? :D :D We called it T-bug :D
I'm gonna toss my vote in for AC as the best first VR sim to pick up, but lets be honest you'll end up with all of them eventually if you actually stick with sim racing for any period of time.
Nice summary. Two thoughts from reading on the topic: A lot of people seem to think that Rfactor 2 has the best physics, so I'm surprised you didn't include that one in your review. And secondly, for online racing, iracing is apparently by far the number one due to the competitive driver-base that game has attracted, to the extent that there simply is no contest in that department.
Thanks for your comment! This was more a look at the specific VR elements within these games, rather than the games/experiences as a whole. At the time of writing the video, we had some issues with rF2's VR accessibility so it didn't make the top 10, but as a driving and racing sim it's abolsutely one of the best. We have heard good things about the VR experience since making this video so maybe it would be high up the list were we to make a new one!
@@TraxionGG Thanks for the reply. That makes sense. I have them all and am hoping to get into it some sim racing over xmas on my Quest 3 when I get it! :).
Excellent, main thing to remember is that everybody has a different preference when it comes to which game or sim is best. Work out what you enjoy the most, not what everyone else tells you is best... and have a blast!🔥
I have tried all of these sims. Recently got rfactor2, and it trumps them all. Sadly the UI still feels like ass no matter what revamp it has gone through
Great vid! I think you underrated F1 2022... Since I've hooked up my pc to my VR OQ2 that's all I been playing. I'm by far not the best but just love trying to keep up with other players online. And seeing all the battles other players have in VR it's so much fun! I do have ACC but it just doesn't feel there's as many players online 😅
I was pissed at that, I set an alarm to buy them all the day before they delisted because I wasn't at home when I read the news, and they delisted early on Steam. Like a full day earlier than their announced plans. I still have the game at least..
That's great! It has certainly improved over time. I had issues early on as did Ross when he was testing it for the sake of this video, but personally I find that now it works far better than it did initially.
Well it is now 2024. Other racing games that are very good are RFactor 2 and F1-23. AMS 2 now has a content manager to add new tracks and cars. The new UEVR injector app now allows any UREAL engine 4 or 5 run game to be able to run the games in first person VR. Games like Bike 4 and Bike 5 and others, can't remember their names. This UEVR app is awesome for the PC computer. I use VORPX to run games maybe not in true VR, but in 3D mode with a VR headset. Several racing games are listed in VORPX and are a little better than doing a flat screen display. You are wrong about Assetto Corsa not having Oval tracks, They do. There is a JNS track pack which has 32 Oval tracks. These have been out for quite a while. RFactor 2 also has similar Oval track pack and RFactor 2 has rolling starts. Take care
I did 1.4 super-sampling on 1080p 119hz (textures on low) on my quest 3 in project cars2 before watching this video and i can only say its quite the step up from a quest 2 and I would recommend this to anyone interested in VR driving. However there is only historic F1 cars... so that's obviously a down-turner.
If you're going to do PC simming, the Quest 2 is probably not the best way to go. Sure, it's wireless and convenient (which also introduces the problem of keeping it charged, so not all positive) but it's wireless, which means it may have more latency and it *certainly* has image compression which directly affects your maximum clarity. The HP Reverb G2 - wired in to the PC graphics card directly - may just be the best overall choice, although in Europe a Pico Neo 3 Link (which can be both standalone and wired in via displayport, thus the "link" part) can match or beat it. Both are relatively affordable. The Quest 2 will work, but it's not the optimal tool in this case. Great for standalone play though. Of course, if money is no object and you have a high-end Nvidia GPU, Pimax and others make high FOV units that are tricky to dial in and quirky but should give a superior experience.
I have my Quest 2 connected to my RTX 3080 with a 15 foot usb C cord that transmits 2.1 Gbs throughput... I have no lag on either of my i7-10700kf or i7-11700kf setups and that is with my quest at max res and 120fps.
Live For Speed would have been awesome in VR if not for its abysmal 100Hz physics engine, it plainly doesn’t work in any VR headset because nothing runs at 100Hz exactly, and because of that, there’s always huge stuttering.
I've not gotten AMS2 but I have everything else and I 100% forgot about Live for Speed. I'm going to have to try to find that again. I was one that played it in the early 2000s and long forgot about it
Hello, I'm wondering what recording tool you are using for capturing vr gameplay videos in such good quality. Can you tell me? I'm using OBS + Openvr Plugin but I'm not satisfied with it.
Hey! I used a mixture of OBS Studios and Nvidia Geforce capture depending on the game. It takes a bit of butchering to get each game to look okay, sometimes you need to re-scale the footage when you are editing it if it looks stretched. And I think there was the odd time where I had to use the steam VR viewer to try and capture correctly. Basically it’s a bit of a pain, but you just need to experiment with the capture settings for each game, and make sure you have your bitrate high!
I've been looking to get a VR Headset for quite a while now, but the biggest factor keeping me away from it is good image quality as I heard from many people that you can see black spots in between the pixels.. density stuff and such. And as I am newly getting into SimRacing and are about to get my first proper Rig and Wheel, ditching the G25. I rather go with a 34" single monitor first. Also I was told long-term playing with VR will cook your face and make it exhausting.
I have an old Oculus Rift CV1 and I never notice any black spots. Changing the pixel aspect ratio helped a bit with blurry image though so now it's all cool. I just can't play with screen anymore after trying VR lol.
The resolution has been more than good enough for a few years now. The Reverb G2 is 2160 x 2160 per eye, and it looks on par with a 32" 1080p monitor. If you wait until Q3 2023, you could get the recently announced "Bigscreen Beyond" headset. It is a tiny, super comfortable headset, with 2560 x 2560 per eye micro-OLED displays. Bigscreen Beyond will be the pinnacle of visuals for VR in the price bracket. It's a huge leap ahead of even the Reverb G2 (also LCD vs OLED). It's expensive but if you have the cash, this is the one. Nothing like racing in VR. It's a quantum leap in experience. You're there, in that car, driving it yourself. A 2d monitor cannot even compare.
I think the best VR experience I had was the first time playing PC2, the Knockhill track in a small open-wheeler. Belting down the straight, side by side with another car, looking round and seeing it “actually there”! Going into the corner, being able to focus on the front offside wheel and have proper depth perception. An incredible experience! The worst experience I had was Dirt Rally. Felt sick for hours after just a few minutes on a windy course 😂 (may have been to do with my underpowered GPU at the time)
@@the_mpower oh I actually bought that, mainly for my 12yo daughter. Forgot it was in my library, I’ll need to check out mods for it! Thanks for reminding me 🙂
Hi Can you or someone on here please help me out or tell me where i can get quick answers? 1. When im in Vr my steering wheel angle does not match the screen, how to reset it? 2. how do I add traffic in schutoko track in content manager? 3. how do i escape or exit , when i press escape and hover over the windows and press the mouse button nothing happens. 4. Finally , how do i chose the car to be automatic or sequential ?
PCVR was the only reason I got back into PC gaming. I'm now on my second PC. From a 3090 to a 4090 and from a 5900X to a 13900KF. And the game that I play the most - Assetto Corsa from 2014. The new CSP and Pure mods will take everything you can throw at it, and still need to be optimised when using a Varjo Aero/Reverb G2 if you want all the eye candy turned on. All the recent hype about GT7 and PSVR2 - I hope it brings some new blood to the PCVR driving scene. It was GT Sport and the PSVR1 that got me hooked on VR driving titles and why I made the switch to PC.
@@B6447NW I used to have FSR/DLSS enabled on my 3090. It was a necessary evil. But with the 4090 I was able to leave FSR/DLSS off and it looked noticeably better. It’s small things like jaggies on wires across the screen etc but it all adds to the immersion. So it’s hard to go back to enabling FSR/DLSS again on the 4090. With ACC, I can still keep DLSS off but I just have my settings set to somewhere between VR High and VR Ultra when I play in good weather. With rain etc, it will require judicious adjustments to get to 90. Check HamVR’s channel on his frame timings with the 4090 with Reverb G2 and Quest 2. So far, GT7 has been rock solid for me even with 20 cars on the grid and with full weather effects.
Same happened to me. I was done spending silly money on the best pc, 2nd tier was good enough. VR came along, but even then it didn't matter as much. Discovered Sim racing, it was game on again. Any money for what i consider to be the best gaming experience I've ever had in over 40 years at it.
HI, can you say me if BeamNG is compatible on Vr mode? and over open world racing games like forza hrizon, the crew... thanks for your answer (and sorry for my english)
Having found VR not to be as consumer friendly i wouldhave hoped after what, 3 generations? I find i'm spending more and more time setting it up rather than enjoying flying or racing...
Thanks very much! And I appreciate that point, it's a little complicated because the testing was undertaken by Ross on a mid-range PC, but much of the capture and my own testing was done on higher performance PC's. Sadly Ross is away right now so I can't ask him for his specs, but I will try and get those for you when I can!
I guess my biggest question is, what headset is best for sim racing? I want to be able to play other things but primarily I'm on racing games. The more I read and watch, the more confused I get.
Nice video! However since it is not focused on sim racing, but pointed towards VR experience and immersion - I am surprised that Forza Horizon 5 was not in this list, why?!..o.0..
In Assetto do you get to hold the steering wheel and shift with your hands or is it with the joysticks?? I wanna know cause I might buy it could someone tell me please
Really wish there was support for The Crew or Forza Horizon. I don't care too much for formal racing, I just want to drive around freely without speed laws and consequences 😂
Why they just make Different Graphics Menu for VR ? I dont get it ... They didnt even had the time to make the VR graphics settings have different save file than FLat screen ... WTF ?
AC with mods is probably the most complete VR sim out there. The closest to and open world "driving sim" you can get. I don't know why Forza doesn't have it yet. Once BeamNG's VR gets optimize that will also be top tier.
Nothing about RFactor2? Although the title is an unoptimised crap shoot and requires a lot of fiddling to get it to work fairly well in VR! It has some great content and VR experiences. Not everyones cup of tea though, but worth a mention.
ACC is the best one for me. On my system it runs perfectly in VR with my Valve Index, I get over 120 FPS, and I can't actually play ACC on flat screen anymore. The lack of 3D depth really messes with my perception on where the apexes are so I am measurably worse if I'm not in VR.
Wrong Dirt Rally 2.0 wasnt made with VR in mind ... They add it later after a lot of pressure. Dirt Rally 1.0 was made with VR in mind ( thats why in VR looks way better)
i emailed beamng about VR .would love to drive the cars i designed on AUTOMATION in vr . they said they have no plans for vr. silly right? we all should flood them with VR request. it would behoove of them to consider . at least before gta 6 comes out and makes it hard on em all. GTA6 WILL be the best VR game for years .just watch.
modded Assetto Corsa is the best I think..I always get dragged back to it. I love creating my own Championships. With mods you can create an F1 championship as well
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It's an absolute crime that they never bothered to add VR to the Forza series.
Blame it on Microsoft :( They always run away from VR except for MFS of course
I would love VR support on it. Always perfectly optimized and the best open worlds for driving...
I bet it isn't that hard or even already done internally but not sold for xbox equity.
Seriously, I was hoping it would happen with the new forza motorsport coming but nope... let's not take advantage of current technology 🤦
Seriously! But it's still fun with a big virtual monitor In vd
It might not make it fully vr but vorkx (I'm not sure if that's what it is called)
Due to some serious injuries, I have been bed ridden and will not be using my racing rig for a long time. But I can use my HP reverb G2 while lying in bed using an xbox controller.
I am all banged up unable to walk and in a body cast, but can still kill it on a racetrack in VR. My physical therapist is so impressed that she is looking into incorporating VR with some of her clients.
Good for you 👍 good luck with the recovery
Your videos have been invaluable for someone navigating entering the PC sim race and VR categories. Keep up the excellent work!
Don't listen to this channel, he didn't even mention AC's thousands of mods and open world maps + traffic mods and litteraly everything you can think of
@Soldier yeah nah mate he really doesn't ever seem to mention AC
My guy my guy…. Assetto Corsa has a HUGE modding community with hundreds of drift cars, tracks, and maps. It also has filtering mods for VR enhancement😂
yea definitely AC is the best and with the steam sales buying it just for 7€ makes it even better
Yes, and it's such a shame VR is so crap in ACC
@@Riskinator crap? AC is so light to run compared to skyrim VR with heavy mods...
@@moncimoov yes AC works nice and Looks awesome in vr with mods. I meant ACC is in vr crap
AC is old hat.. physics are meh despite all the amazing things modders have been able to do. It's simple and runs fast on a low-end pc however. PC2?... just no. the physics are like ice-skating.
For arcade racing, Distance has some of coolest VR I've ever experienced. Crazy experience.
I've always had mixed feelings about AMS2's handling, but the 1.4 update was a huge improvement in the handling part and now for me it's tied with ACC on the top spot.
Unfortunately, AMS2 still gets too little attention from the community. there should be big leagues like LFM that offer ranked races in AMS2.
its crazy but some of the GT3 cars in AMS2 feel better than some of the GT3s in ACC. Game is so underrated.
@@Pobsworth the GTE Porsche feels amazing! My absolutely favorite
is it really that significantly better? i felt same and havent tried it for some months. Is the ffb also different now? that was my main issue, couldnt feel things naturally, bumps and grass, traction loss werent good enough. even with ffb "fixes"
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j it is really good now mate, not sure exactly what they did but i think they changed the tyre model or something. there is a lot of detail in the ffb now
Comm’on! rFactor 2’s FFB in VR is a transcendental experience!
the physics and handling are great, for vr its not the best tho
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j performance could be better, but it's good enough if you make some compromises. Then enters the most important element which is the illusion given by the conjunction of being in VR, having a tactile experience (FFB) which matches the visual cues you are getting, and finally, the cars' actual handling/physics.
This theme only makes sense if we do not look at it strictly from a graphical point of view.
@@valter_vava74 well last time i tried the menus sucked in vr as well
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Release Candidate solved those issues. There was a problem on the Setup menu which is now gone.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j I play with an HP G2 at 120% openXR, with a mix of ultra, high an medium settings, with an 4080S and 5800X3D, silk smooth at 90HZ, with 16 visible cars, at NUrbring, night or rain with GT3 or GTE, with 5% to 20% of performance left. For me is the best of all, i have all the sims.
honestly love the commentary man keep up the awesome work!
Glad you enjoy it!
If you have a Quest 2, you don-t need Steam VR to use Assetto Corsa in VR, it has a native Oculus rendering mode which gives you a good 10fps overhead.
Do you have it it plugged in or bluetooth connection and if so how do you connect it to pc i have the quest 2
@@xALFx13 link cable or air link work well
@@xALFx13 With cable, so you can up the bitrate to 300 and be done with compression artifacts.
You can use openxr as well to cut out the steamvr middleman
How to launch Assetto Corsa without Steam VR?
How could you leave rf2 off the list?!
Honourable Mentions #2: Rfactor 2 and Dirt Rally 1 (i"ve tried, it"s awesome!)
Dirt rally is miles better that Dirt rally 2, the problem is the difficult to play in VR with a WMR device.
What about RFactor 2? its the best experience I have had so far
I don’t know why I even watch videos like this. I always think “cool I’ll find some new games!”
Meanwhile I still play dirt rally 101% of the time haha
Are you playing Dirt Rally in VR as well?
Wot, no rFactor 2?
This! Best of them all, the mods are soooo good. Best driving physics and great FFB. LOVE the GP 1979 mod
Not my particular favorite racing game. Feelings are unrealistic, and almost elementary. Assetto corsa almost spoils it for me.
@@AZEOforreal "Feelings are unrealistic", you realy thinks that ? for me Rfactor 2 have the most realistic feeling by far.
@@mickeilkeil a lot of the bumps in the road, and all that kinda stuff seems to be softened out
I have all of these and raceroom is my favorite. Automobilista 2 is certainly not a second either.
I'm in the same boat and agree. Love Raceroom. It's my regular VR go-to.
I can only speak about AC using a Reverb G2, but it runs much better in OpenXR than SteamVR - to the point that when I made the shift it was almost like getting a new VR headset.
If you can be bothered running AC via Content Manager, install and configure Sol and Pure, and work your way through the Custom Shaders Patch labyrinth, AC can also look fantastic.
Agreed. But can you use Post Processing in AC setting? Even turning that tab on with everything on low makes my game run like dogshit.
@@pellman87 Since the recent updates to Pure I've run it with PP turned off. With the most recent hi-res Skydomes installed it looks really good.
When you are in VR in Pcars2, try walk outside from your car and look at the opponents. They all suddenly look like a big rectangular block only, just like when someone first started a project in autocad LOL maybe that's why it performs so well?
But then if you do the same in AC, all other cars are still rendered pretty well and you could even crouch down and look at the information on the tire. I had a VR car meet with friends and we could stand around our cars and chat at the Green Hell carpark, it was an amazing experience.
I see the cars just fine when outside my car in pcvr using vr.
@@MDaDonLegacy same
I bought an Oculus Rift S in 2019 and cannot go back to flat screen sim racing.
I kept the Rift S for 5 years. I have a Varjo Aero now and love it.
pc2 is underrated. amazing even outside of vr, but absolutely most stunning in vr. the cars handle very good as well, maybe a few of them have issues but main ones are great
Where do I buy it? Im looking everywhere but cant find it.
@@concern2514 it has been removed by the dev studio because of expiring licenses, you might still find it from third-party sellers or maybe find a cracked version
PC2 is not bad, but being able to shift gear without clutching drives me nuts...even with auto clutch off...
This misses RF2 imo, while rf2 in itself is a hassle to setup for me it's the most problem free VR gaming time (apart from maybe AMS2)
Performs fine in VR, and with the still top notch physics id definitely deserves an honorable mention! :)
And you can try the best car (MP4/8) for free in the demo on Steam.
RF2 kinda disqualified themselves for me, having me pay twice for lifetime-online subscription and consequently dropping it after a year or so... I kinda never looked at it since...
looked and performed bad when I tried. and as you said its a hassle to setup and thats problem in itself.
RF2 in VR is godly
Really? I thought the vr ui in rf2 was atrocious. I had to take off my headset multiple times to setup races. I like it when I can do everything inside the headset like in pc2 and dirt rally 2
Just a quick note that I appreciate how you blast into AI cars in the video often and don't hide it lol
As a Vizrt Grunt. I have to respect Ross for what they do
All I would say is if you look at any expensive VR motion based sim racing experiences even up to the ones in the millions they all use assetto corsa as base software, and with modding you can get any car and track combo such as all the F1 tracks and cars it may not be officially licensed F1 content but it's bloody good...
Today played first time on VR "Assetto Corsa Competizione"
Amazing feeling :D No lag, no problems.
I have them all (main) exp iracing....AC has to be the best for pure driving experience then AMS and pc2. Acc is hard to beat for gt racing experience though vr is not great!
Admiration for adding Live for Speed. It's old but gold.
We couldn’t agree more, what a game!
I search Google for arcade VR racing games and it gives me this as the top result. Not a single arcade style racing game in the bunch. These are good games and I have most of them, but I'm wanting something more arcady right now. This isn't the video creator's fault of course.
Nice video, i totally agree with everything! Hence i have 3.5k hours in Assetto Corsa with DK2, CV1 and now Reverb G2.
PC2 is pretty good in VR, but it's such a shame that Slightly Mad Studios practically abandoned it after release. AMS 2/Reiza capitalized on the engine very well, actually enabling Full Course Yellows (and working on future iterations of it) since SMS just... didn't want to.
F1 22's VR is just unoptimized still, and it's really annoying. I shouldn't have the menus/game flashing on my headset on a 3070, when any other racing game I have (that has VR) works fine.
AMS 2 is the number one VR experince for SIM racing in my opinion :) I have newver had as much fun with any other sims in vr as I have in AMS 2
Agreed. For pure VR AMS2 is the winner. Other titles are better sims but for VR.. yeah.. hands down.
AMS2 lacks modding support though
probs, but the ffb was off for my t300 and pc2 felt better and no handling mod/fix helped in ams2 :/
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j my FFB in AMS2 kicks ass.. I'm using Fanatec CSL and it's amazing. Closer to real cars than some other sims.
It isn't quite ACC.. but it's close.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j T500 RS had no problems with ffb.. I just scroll through the list and nothing really appeals to me.. I like racing old crap on long street circuits.. and it's lacking in that department.. and no modding support.. so it's not like the community can make their own..
LFS.. dozens of thousands of km driven with mouse steering :D That was a good time :D
Such a good game 🙏🏻
@@TraxionGG and hours superb fun because of ingame chat :D You pressed "T" and could write something. I played so much that for a year i was pressing "t" every time when I would to write something in other communicators, so it was like : tHi, tWhat's up? :D :D We called it T-bug :D
Honestly i Try all of them and Raceroom looks and Feels better than all of them in VR .
I'm gonna toss my vote in for AC as the best first VR sim to pick up, but lets be honest you'll end up with all of them eventually if you actually stick with sim racing for any period of time.
AC will probably stay as my favourite just because of the mod community.
Nice summary. Two thoughts from reading on the topic: A lot of people seem to think that Rfactor 2 has the best physics, so I'm surprised you didn't include that one in your review. And secondly, for online racing, iracing is apparently by far the number one due to the competitive driver-base that game has attracted, to the extent that there simply is no contest in that department.
Thanks for your comment! This was more a look at the specific VR elements within these games, rather than the games/experiences as a whole. At the time of writing the video, we had some issues with rF2's VR accessibility so it didn't make the top 10, but as a driving and racing sim it's abolsutely one of the best. We have heard good things about the VR experience since making this video so maybe it would be high up the list were we to make a new one!
@@TraxionGG Thanks for the reply. That makes sense. I have them all and am hoping to get into it some sim racing over xmas on my Quest 3 when I get it! :).
Excellent, main thing to remember is that everybody has a different preference when it comes to which game or sim is best. Work out what you enjoy the most, not what everyone else tells you is best... and have a blast!🔥
RF2??????
Would love to see Road Rash 3d in vr, Star Wars pod racer, Jet Moto or wreckfest!
I have tried all of these sims. Recently got rfactor2, and it trumps them all. Sadly the UI still feels like ass no matter what revamp it has gone through
I actually am watching this on my birthday for exactly that reason 😂
Gotta agree here, Dirt Rally 2 is INSANE in VR!
Great vid! I think you underrated F1 2022... Since I've hooked up my pc to my VR OQ2 that's all I been playing. I'm by far not the best but just love trying to keep up with other players online. And seeing all the battles other players have in VR it's so much fun! I do have ACC but it just doesn't feel there's as many players online 😅
Great piece of content. But it is so sad that I did not managed to get PC2 before it was pulled from all game stores recently... :/
Yeah I found it odd they didn't mention that while recommending it. That and no mention of rf2 made me think I was loosing my mind
I was pissed at that, I set an alarm to buy them all the day before they delisted because I wasn't at home when I read the news, and they delisted early on Steam. Like a full day earlier than their announced plans. I still have the game at least..
@@purplepurplesaurasne I just bought a code off a 3rd party reseller. Having lots of fun.
Rfactor 2 is the best sim experience in VR by far, for me. and i play in VR to all of this game (exept lfs)
I don't know how I managed it, but F1 22 runs silky smooth with a steady 80fps on my system (Ryzen 5600x, RTX3080) and a Quest 2.
That's great! It has certainly improved over time. I had issues early on as did Ross when he was testing it for the sake of this video, but personally I find that now it works far better than it did initially.
Well it is now 2024. Other racing games that are very good are RFactor 2 and F1-23. AMS 2 now has a content manager to add new tracks and cars.
The new UEVR injector app now allows any UREAL engine 4 or 5 run game to be able to run the games in first person VR. Games like Bike 4 and Bike 5 and others, can't remember their names. This UEVR app is awesome for the PC computer.
I use VORPX to run games maybe not in true VR, but in 3D mode with a VR headset. Several racing games are listed in VORPX and are a little better than doing a flat screen display.
You are wrong about Assetto Corsa not having Oval tracks, They do. There is a JNS track pack which has 32 Oval tracks. These have been out for quite a while. RFactor 2 also has similar Oval track pack and RFactor 2 has rolling starts.
Take care
I did 1.4 super-sampling on 1080p 119hz (textures on low) on my quest 3 in project cars2 before watching this video and i can only say its quite the step up from a quest 2 and I would recommend this to anyone interested in VR driving.
However there is only historic F1 cars... so that's obviously a down-turner.
Sorry you are wrong I guess I you too young to know that AC have computability with oculus from the release.Not from early access but from release
No RF2? For me with AMS2 the Best VR Experience
200% agree with you.
What did you mean by mid range pc? It would’ve been nice to include ur specs
btw, LFS was the first racing game to support VR.
Such a great game!
If you're going to do PC simming, the Quest 2 is probably not the best way to go. Sure, it's wireless and convenient (which also introduces the problem of keeping it charged, so not all positive) but it's wireless, which means it may have more latency and it *certainly* has image compression which directly affects your maximum clarity. The HP Reverb G2 - wired in to the PC graphics card directly - may just be the best overall choice, although in Europe a Pico Neo 3 Link (which can be both standalone and wired in via displayport, thus the "link" part) can match or beat it. Both are relatively affordable. The Quest 2 will work, but it's not the optimal tool in this case. Great for standalone play though. Of course, if money is no object and you have a high-end Nvidia GPU, Pimax and others make high FOV units that are tricky to dial in and quirky but should give a superior experience.
I have my Quest 2 connected to my RTX 3080 with a 15 foot usb C cord that transmits 2.1 Gbs throughput... I have no lag on either of my i7-10700kf or i7-11700kf setups and that is with my quest at max res and 120fps.
You do realise you can use a cable, it doesn’t have to be wireless.
@@chienforcer Even with a wire the quest 2 has compression artifacts.
@@kangjames2492 artifacts at times, but I have no lag and barely notice the compression artifacts
The hp reverb was blurry as with a tiny sweet spot. I had to return mine. Would not recommend one.
Live For Speed would have been awesome in VR if not for its abysmal 100Hz physics engine, it plainly doesn’t work in any VR headset because nothing runs at 100Hz exactly, and because of that, there’s always huge stuttering.
rf2 and DD wheel is the best vr experience ❤ then next is Iracing with buttkicker LFE plus VR❤
I've not gotten AMS2 but I have everything else and I 100% forgot about Live for Speed. I'm going to have to try to find that again. I was one that played it in the early 2000s and long forgot about it
AC has the option of stereoscopic mirrors in Content Manager
There's also a VR mod for the original AMS!
What are the chances I would watch this video on my birthday as I am waiting on my oculus 3 to come in the mail?
Hello, I'm wondering what recording tool you are using for capturing vr gameplay videos in such good quality. Can you tell me? I'm using OBS + Openvr Plugin but I'm not satisfied with it.
Hey! I used a mixture of OBS Studios and Nvidia Geforce capture depending on the game. It takes a bit of butchering to get each game to look okay, sometimes you need to re-scale the footage when you are editing it if it looks stretched. And I think there was the odd time where I had to use the steam VR viewer to try and capture correctly.
Basically it’s a bit of a pain, but you just need to experiment with the capture settings for each game, and make sure you have your bitrate high!
what about mods? A lot of the games you talked about have mods implementation. Mods add plenty of content...
Automobilista 2 as of Febuary 2024 is one of the best VR titles if not the best out there. AC also is one of the best.
There are also quite some tracks and differents cc"s karts in Automobilista 2
I've been looking to get a VR Headset for quite a while now, but the biggest factor keeping me away from it is good image quality as I heard from many people that you can see black spots in between the pixels.. density stuff and such. And as I am newly getting into SimRacing and are about to get my first proper Rig and Wheel, ditching the G25. I rather go with a 34" single monitor first.
Also I was told long-term playing with VR will cook your face and make it exhausting.
I have an old Oculus Rift CV1 and I never notice any black spots. Changing the pixel aspect ratio helped a bit with blurry image though so now it's all cool. I just can't play with screen anymore after trying VR lol.
@@SHIZURAKU And do you get any nice face tanning from racing for a long time due to the heat?
HP G1 is a good start
@@Drnken229 Never heard of such a thing, but once you go VR in racing, you can't go back to flat.
The resolution has been more than good enough for a few years now.
The Reverb G2 is 2160 x 2160 per eye, and it looks on par with a 32" 1080p monitor.
If you wait until Q3 2023, you could get the recently announced "Bigscreen Beyond" headset.
It is a tiny, super comfortable headset, with 2560 x 2560 per eye micro-OLED displays.
Bigscreen Beyond will be the pinnacle of visuals for VR in the price bracket. It's a huge leap ahead of even the Reverb G2 (also LCD vs OLED). It's expensive but if you have the cash, this is the one.
Nothing like racing in VR. It's a quantum leap in experience.
You're there, in that car, driving it yourself. A 2d monitor cannot even compare.
Pls do a vr headset comparission. I want to buy vr but dont know wich one to choose
get what you can afford Tracking is less important in sim racing than in typical roomscale VR
I think the best VR experience I had was the first time playing PC2, the Knockhill track in a small open-wheeler. Belting down the straight, side by side with another car, looking round and seeing it “actually there”! Going into the corner, being able to focus on the front offside wheel and have proper depth perception. An incredible experience!
The worst experience I had was Dirt Rally. Felt sick for hours after just a few minutes on a windy course 😂 (may have been to do with my underpowered GPU at the time)
i like city car driving tho cos its kinda open world, just driving around + you can install some mods
@@the_mpower oh I actually bought that, mainly for my 12yo daughter. Forgot it was in my library, I’ll need to check out mods for it! Thanks for reminding me 🙂
What are the controls like in VR for these games? Can use we use the VR wants to emulate steering or will it require a controller peripheral?
Hi Can you or someone on here please help me out or tell me where i can get quick answers? 1. When im in Vr my steering wheel angle does not match the screen, how to reset it? 2. how do I add traffic in schutoko track in content manager? 3. how do i escape or exit , when i press escape and hover over the windows and press the mouse button nothing happens. 4. Finally , how do i chose the car to be automatic or sequential ?
Why no rFactor2?
Works great in VR on Steam
PCVR was the only reason I got back into PC gaming. I'm now on my second PC. From a 3090 to a 4090 and from a 5900X to a 13900KF. And the game that I play the most - Assetto Corsa from 2014. The new CSP and Pure mods will take everything you can throw at it, and still need to be optimised when using a Varjo Aero/Reverb G2 if you want all the eye candy turned on.
All the recent hype about GT7 and PSVR2 - I hope it brings some new blood to the PCVR driving scene. It was GT Sport and the PSVR1 that got me hooked on VR driving titles and why I made the switch to PC.
You're doing something wrong, I've got it all turned up including pure on a Quest 2 and a 3080ti, solid 120fps with max res. using amd fsr
@@B6447NW I used to have FSR/DLSS enabled on my 3090. It was a necessary evil. But with the 4090 I was able to leave FSR/DLSS off and it looked noticeably better. It’s small things like jaggies on wires across the screen etc but it all adds to the immersion. So it’s hard to go back to enabling FSR/DLSS again on the 4090. With ACC, I can still keep DLSS off but I just have my settings set to somewhere between VR High and VR Ultra when I play in good weather. With rain etc, it will require judicious adjustments to get to 90. Check HamVR’s channel on his frame timings with the 4090 with Reverb G2 and Quest 2.
So far, GT7 has been rock solid for me even with 20 cars on the grid and with full weather effects.
Same happened to me. I was done spending silly money on the best pc, 2nd tier was good enough. VR came along, but even then it didn't matter as much. Discovered Sim racing, it was game on again. Any money for what i consider to be the best gaming experience I've ever had in over 40 years at it.
HI, can you say me if BeamNG is compatible on Vr mode? and over open world racing games like forza hrizon, the crew...
thanks for your answer (and sorry for my english)
Having found VR not to be as consumer friendly i wouldhave hoped after what, 3 generations? I find i'm spending more and more time setting it up rather than enjoying flying or racing...
LFS gave me such nostalgia feelings, like someone just mentioned your ex 20 years ago
Hopefully good nostalgia feelings
You know the Ford GT is a V6, right?
Isn't the only way to get Project Cars 2 to use a third party key seller since they de-listed it?
Can you play project cars 2 on Quest 2 controllers?
they look all the same except for dirt rally.
Doesn't VR have some more colorful and stylized games to offer yet?
Am watching this on my birthday. That intro was very odd for a moment.
At least my birthday wishes were not in vain!😂
Great summary. It would help if you could add your PC specs as you mention framerates being an issue
Thanks very much! And I appreciate that point, it's a little complicated because the testing was undertaken by Ross on a mid-range PC, but much of the capture and my own testing was done on higher performance PC's. Sadly Ross is away right now so I can't ask him for his specs, but I will try and get those for you when I can!
@@TraxionGG Hi, can you at least give us the specs on you pc?
Here you are 🙂:
Intel I9 10900X, RTX 3090, 128GB Ram, 2TB Nvme SSD
@@TraxionGG thank you, perfect I have the same specs. Legend
@@TraxionGG subbing now
I have never played a pc driving game on my Meta Quest. What controller do I need. Can I use Quest hand controllers?
I guess my biggest question is, what headset is best for sim racing? I want to be able to play other things but primarily I'm on racing games. The more I read and watch, the more confused I get.
Varjo ….
thats a really cool intro logo thing
Thanks!
Nice video! However since it is not focused on sim racing, but pointed towards VR experience and immersion - I am surprised that Forza Horizon 5 was not in this list, why?!..o.0..
What pc specs did you have running these games?
In Assetto do you get to hold the steering wheel and shift with your hands or is it with the joysticks?? I wanna know cause I might buy it could someone tell me please
Wreckfest as VR version would be great.
Are there any games that have VR support with police pursuits in them?
Really wish there was support for The Crew or Forza Horizon. I don't care too much for formal racing, I just want to drive around freely without speed laws and consequences 😂
ya'll forgetting the most realistic car simulator, beamNG with thousands of mods and the realest breaking physics😭 (it has a vr mode too)
It's incredible! If we were re-making this video again in 2024, Beam would likely be on there with it's official VR support 👌
how convenient that i own basically every game on this list (and nothing else really)
Why they just make Different Graphics Menu for VR ? I dont get it ... They didnt even had the time to make the VR graphics settings have different save file than FLat screen ... WTF ?
Damn, my old THR buddies kinda disappoint me there, not attempting rF2 at all😅
Props for knowing the correct plural for 'apex'.
Do you know what is the best setting to set for a HTC vive Pro 2 F122?
Jude Law "enemy at the gates" is youtuber?
AC with mods is probably the most complete VR sim out there. The closest to and open world "driving sim" you can get. I don't know why Forza doesn't have it yet. Once BeamNG's VR gets optimize that will also be top tier.
Nothing about RFactor2? Although the title is an unoptimised crap shoot and requires a lot of fiddling to get it to work fairly well in VR! It has some great content and VR experiences. Not everyones cup of tea though, but worth a mention.
witch of those games have a supra ?
You literally put this out the day after my birthday. I'm offended you didn't say belated.
Understandable heartbreak 😞
ACC is the best one for me. On my system it runs perfectly in VR with my Valve Index, I get over 120 FPS, and I can't actually play ACC on flat screen anymore. The lack of 3D depth really messes with my perception on where the apexes are so I am measurably worse if I'm not in VR.
Who needs a triple screen when you can immerse yourself into the game lol...im addicted to vr racing now
Wrong Dirt Rally 2.0 wasnt made with VR in mind ... They add it later after a lot of pressure. Dirt Rally 1.0 was made with VR in mind ( thats why in VR looks way better)
i emailed beamng about VR .would love to drive the cars i designed on AUTOMATION in vr . they said they have no plans for vr. silly right? we all should flood them with VR request. it would behoove of them to consider . at least before gta 6 comes out and makes it hard on em all. GTA6 WILL be the best VR game for years .just watch.
modded Assetto Corsa is the best I think..I always get dragged back to it. I love creating my own Championships. With mods you can create an F1 championship as well