Absolutely 100% agree with you on this. One of my pet hates is the increasingly common poor attitude of drivers trying to undertake on roundabouts giving us, the driver in front, very little room to be able to the right thing - ie. move over to the left on exiting a roundabout. I am starting to really hate multilane roundabouts as you need eyes everywhere and even then feel there is a chance of an accident.
I agree with you. I passed my test in 1969 so I have many years experience, often driving 30,000 miles a year. As an experienced driver I might have cancelled the signal as I left the roundabout and put it on again to emphasise that I wanted to move over to the left lane. However, I wouldn't expect a learner to do that and if I'd been the Range Rover driver, I'd have stayed well clear of the area the learner was telling me they wanted to go.
Undertaking on left on roundabouts needs a dedicated lesson, it’s becoming commonplace and I find it unnerving at best and usually downright dangerous. Surely a roundabout can only function safely if you anticipate anybody potentially wanting to move to the left from an inner lane ready to exit, they might indicate late so anticipate that possibility and never, never pass anybody on the left on a roundabout. ( to make matters worse on a r’bout which I have to use, where it’s a tight dual circuit they not only pass on the left but they don’t even stay properly on lane anyway ! )
One instructor to another 100 percent agree on your analysis. The Land Rover was 100 at fault. This issue of vehicle undertaking on roundabouts is getting more common. All the best. Ps what engine is your Mazda 2 at what mpg due you get and are you happy with it. I'm looking at one for my next car
@@Lanzy4lee thank you very much, I appreciate it. It’s 1.5 petrol with the sky active so a mild hybrid. Really good on fuel I average around 57-58mpg with the learners. Costs around £47-50 to fill up and over 500 miles on a tank. Really happy with it and drives lovely
Cracking analysis 1 - All drivers were learners at some point - I think they forget that! 2 - There is a lot of information to process and actions to perform when driving and a learner is 'Learning' how do deal with that under instruction from a qualified instructor 3 - Leaving the indicator on? - absolutley correct, it's 'INDICATING' the vehicles intended direction, so if it's left on, it usually means that the driver will be doing something else - avoiding a hazard that other drivers may have not seen, moving left on a dual carriageway, negotiating another junction etc. The observations I've made on driving habits over recent years are truly shocking - some folk should hand their licence back in and catch the bus! I'm not an instructor, but an experienced road user (motorbike IAM, car, cycle, pedestrian) with a lot of common sense
That’s alright mate, you’re always very welcome, if mr perfect thinks he’s so good at driving let’s make him drive around central London, see how long he survives! 😂
Hi D I UK, another interesting video!, thank you. The events you describe and explain are not uncommon, it does seem that many people are very confused about what is proper on roundabouts and I do see many examples when travelling, certainly more than enough to make very very much more cautious and observant when approaching them with other traffic. As it happens I am deeply embedded in the habit of frequent glances at my mirrors and constant awareness of traffic behind and to the side of me, my primary concern being whether or not they are faster or slower than me, its like some sort of juggling act! how can I adjust my speed and position to ensure that I can negotiate the exit I want without risk of conflict. The most common issue for me here is that especially with slower traffic there is that element of total unpredictability!, it is abundantly clear that some drivers do not seem to know where they are going or how to get there. To the best of my understanding this would seem to be down to lack of training and experience, probably rooted in the manner of how they were taught and the predilection for rote learning of prescriptive 'rules' that are based on doctrine not observation. The underlying problem here would be that it requires a good deal of confidence to be able to allow your eyes to see and your brain to calculate so that you can make adjustments on the fly without really thinking about them, what I call the 'auto-pilot', or the descriptive method. The problem I think with the prescriptive model is that one has to not only know and understand what all the rules are but also be able to choose the 'right' one in time to react in the dynamic traffic situations we face, in particular at roundabouts. The other topic you discuss is the nature of the hostility you encounter inn your comments section. Here we have the other side of human nature where given nthat most people do not ever really question what they think they have been told and believe, it just has to be true or all is lost!. This means that lacking rational foundations for those beliefs when they bare challenged in any serious way the natural reaction is to take offence!, that you are attacking them personally not just what they believe. The thing about this is that there is nothing we can do for them!, just let it pass! it is certainly not worth getting into any argument about sensible people ewho are interested in reality and facts will always be willing to engage in rational debate, anyone who acts differently might just be dek=luded or might just be in a bit of a bad mood, both will pass on their own if ignored, like children having tantrums!. Cheers, Richard.
Hi Diss, I wouldn't even try and explain myself to these guys in the comments...they have all fallen into their own personal rules of the road around the areas that they drive on a regular basis and think EVERYONE else should automatically know the same..even learners... the fact is that they don't understand that learners don't understand normal every day driving. only take on board what trained people have to say and ignore the rest... Love every video you do and your efforts to get the message across... many thanks... Vern
Hi, I've been driving for over 55 years & the attitude of the driver of the Range Rover is I'm sorry to say, quite common & definitely wrong. Its a very selfish & arrogant mindset which will be very difficult to change. I whole heartily agree with you in every way. Learner or not, roundabouts create very dangerous conditions & exiting is probably the worst part & yes I would do the same as your learner driver, because changing lanes again is very dangerous to do quickly. Keep up the good work as you might just change someone's mindset.
A couple of points: 1. Your pupil was perfectly correct to keep his indicator on, because he was intending to move left. There's a difference between what you intend to do, and what you ARE doing. People need to understand that. 2. Every time you say "haitch" I die a little inside. Sorry.
We, as experienced drivers would consider flooring it on the roundabout to shut down the Range Rover and with good judgment this would be fine. You cannot expect a learner to carry this out as he already has enough to do without the added task of clever driving. No need to cancel the left indicator, just an unnecessary task adding to distraction, pupil should just be advised to focus on steering straight until the danger was over.
Your car is displaying L plates, that's a clue that progress might be a little slower than desired, and that decisions might be delayed, or inappropriate. Sadly, few others heed the warning. Nothing wrong with what the learner did, apart from not adding enough speed. I've taught a few lads from farms, all with tractor licences and road experience. Like yours, confident, good vehicle control, perfect manoeuvring abilities, but all were very slow to add speed. Sometimes initially difficult to get them above 30 mph.
Is a restricted parking zone the same as a controlled parking zone, you usually need a permit to park in the bays but some bays are pay and display and you don’t need a permit for pay and display bays?
At the end of my first lesson, my instructor told me that he thought I was doing well already, and that I should apply for my test. I was sceptical, but he said that he'd have me ready by the time my test came through. In those days, it took about six weeks to get a test and, sure enough, six weeks and six lessons later (and with lots of practice with my dad in between), I passed with a nice clean pass from the examiner. 😁
for one, the land rover should not have entered the roundabout, it was such a risk to roll into that gap as it did. the only benefit i see to turning the indicator off is to say to the land rover i know you are there and i know you are going to be silly and overtake on the left, just do it and get out the way. had you continued to change lane then the fault would lie with you and your learner, but i know you would not let that get to that point, because the the land rover was established in lane 1 and although its a do not, the lane change has more risk in this situation and more responsibility on that cam car if a collision happens. overall, the space wasnt there to exit to lane 1, even an experienced driver would likely choose not to move lane. there are a lot of deluded people out there but thanks to comments sections they can give there opinion, doesnt mean it is correct.
It seems you’ve had your first troll on your channel, it shows it’s getting more views. Sadly, there will be more, it’s knowing when to respond that’s the bit to get your head around.
@@JamesSimpkinsADI Just a little constructive criticism of the response video and why I actually do not see a response video like this as a bad thing even to a troll. Your response to the fool does come across as a little aggressive even if that was not the intent and all that will ever do is cause the fool to double down on his misguided opinion, trolls be trolls regardless. While the original comment is misguided and foolish it is still a valid comment given others will be of similar opinions and those people are probably not trolls like this one. Don't disregard all troll like comments if you can dissect them and turn them into a lesson on how a driving instructor would do it and we all get to see your thought process in the process. IF just one person takes a different approach to their driving on the back of this video then that is a positive surely and anything that makes the roads safer for all can only be a good thing? Good job on dissecting the comment and explaining your view :D
There was absolutely no excuse for the Range Rover to have passed on the left. The RR increased risk by positioning itself into your blind spot as it made the undertake and not considering your car would likely be returning to the normal driving position shortly after exiting the roundabout.
Have you even watched this video? Start looking and you will clearly see the RR is clearly in view through the back windows. I assume very much that that car has side view mirrors.
@@MrMWhithamDoesn't matter whether it was after exiting a roundabout or not. The Range Rover committed no offence. Because there's a car going under the speed limit in lane 2 as shown here do you expect every car in lane 1 must slow down to lane 2 speed and obstruct those who want to pass?
@BillCarthy Ok then Bill. Why don't you show me in the Highway Code or The Official DVSA Guide to Driving where it says: "Because there's a car going under the speed limit in lane 2 it is permissible to overtake on the left. Or maybe the Highway Code Rule 268. Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. Clearly explained I think.
@@MrMWhitham Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence. See an explanation of the abbreviations. Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see The road user and the law) to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’. Both rules 163 and 268 are not Must/Must Not rules.
There is nothing wrong with what your learner chose to do . I remember my first lesson many heats ago and being nervous to spiral out. As I hadn't developed that skill of understanding what people are doing around me. The first one stayed right too long . But we ain't expecting everything by the book. The second one I possibly would still exit right lane in the van especially if im unsure of their position . If I intend to get into the lef5 lane as soon as possible I would still keep the left signal on to say don't come past . He hasn't done anything wrong in my opinion on the 2nd round and I would much rarther see a bit of caution than go go I must exit left lane and cut the nose off the car. Yes me and you may have floored it or maybe not. Even with 30 years I wouldn't gamble if unsure. When I deicide to move over I need to be 100% sure it's safe. Which I feel is what he was doing correctly. He showed good awareness and chose the correct decision for what he felt comfortable with. It doesn't matter if someone say they would exit left lane . He is the one driving and I would much rarther someone make a decision based on what they think is safe than following the text book to the letter. I can't see anything wrong with your teaching, nor that know how to teach
In my country you're not allowed to overtake somebody outside a town on the wrong lane on a dual carriageway.In the town there's no problem to do so if it's safe. I'm just interested in driving, a taxi driver (and also lorry driver for a while) and don't have any points on my licence. I know that driving instructors have a lot more knowledge about the rules of traffic than me, but in my opinion I see nothing wrong what you and your pupil did!
With all due respect I dont think you understand the difference between do not and must not. Undertaking is not an offence an the police would never pull in a car for undertaking. If they did then we would have no bus drivers left on the road. If you are moving into a lane to your left it is YOUR responsibility to give way to all vehicles including cyclists, with due care and attention. I'm driving for almost 40 years and discussed this with police officers and 95% of them agreed.
This "must not" "should not" thing is painful and gets rehashed on every video Every driving instructor will be aware of the implications as it's not rocket science. Undertaking, except for in a couple of prescribed circumstances, is not approved under the Highway Code and, if you are prosecuted for it, you will be prosecuted for "careless driving", Driving through a red traffic light is not approved under the Highway Code and, if you are prosecuted for it, you will be prosecuted for "driving through a red light". Either way, it's points on your licence and a fine. 🙄
@richardsutton01 You will be find and given penalty points for undertaking if and only if the standard of driving fell well below the standard expected from a competent and carefully driver, which is Careless driving... Overtaking on the left does not fall under any of these. How many lanes between 2 vehicles would it take that undertaking changes from careless driving to safe driving?
@BillCarthy undertaking on the left can easily become careless driving and maybe even dangerous driving. I've seen quite a few police videos where they have pulled a driver because he was weaving in and out of lanes at speed on a motorway just to get ahead in busy traffic involving lots of undertaking.
@@BillCarthy As I said, this "must not" "should not" thing is painful and gets rehashed on every video. As I also said, and have said on dozens of videos over the last 10 years, if you wish to overtake on the left with a Police Officer behind you in anything other than one of the few undertaking situations which are approved in the Highway Code, then go for it. Just be sure to report back here afterwards. 🤣
@@richardsutton01 More rubbish as usual. You are seriously saying a cop will pull in all those drivers in lanes 1, 2 and 3 for legally passing a hogger who's in lane 4. Get a grip ffs.
Absolutely 100% agree with you on this. One of my pet hates is the increasingly common poor attitude of drivers trying to undertake on roundabouts giving us, the driver in front, very little room to be able to the right thing - ie. move over to the left on exiting a roundabout. I am starting to really hate multilane roundabouts as you need eyes everywhere and even then feel there is a chance of an accident.
I agree with you. I passed my test in 1969 so I have many years experience, often driving 30,000 miles a year. As an experienced driver I might have cancelled the signal as I left the roundabout and put it on again to emphasise that I wanted to move over to the left lane. However, I wouldn't expect a learner to do that and if I'd been the Range Rover driver, I'd have stayed well clear of the area the learner was telling me they wanted to go.
Undertaking on left on roundabouts needs a dedicated lesson, it’s becoming commonplace and I find it unnerving at best and usually downright dangerous. Surely a roundabout can only function safely if you anticipate anybody potentially wanting to move to the left from an inner lane ready to exit, they might indicate late so anticipate that possibility and never, never pass anybody on the left on a roundabout. ( to make matters worse on a r’bout which I have to use, where it’s a tight dual circuit they not only pass on the left but they don’t even stay properly on lane anyway ! )
One instructor to another 100 percent agree on your analysis. The Land Rover was 100 at fault. This issue of vehicle undertaking on roundabouts is getting more common. All the best. Ps what engine is your Mazda 2 at what mpg due you get and are you happy with it. I'm looking at one for my next car
@@Lanzy4lee thank you very much, I appreciate it. It’s 1.5 petrol with the sky active so a mild hybrid. Really good on fuel I average around 57-58mpg with the learners. Costs around £47-50 to fill up and over 500 miles on a tank. Really happy with it and drives lovely
At fault for what?
Cracking analysis
1 - All drivers were learners at some point - I think they forget that!
2 - There is a lot of information to process and actions to perform when driving and a learner is 'Learning' how do deal with that under instruction from a qualified instructor
3 - Leaving the indicator on? - absolutley correct, it's 'INDICATING' the vehicles intended direction, so if it's left on, it usually means that the driver will be doing something else - avoiding a hazard that other drivers may have not seen, moving left on a dual carriageway, negotiating another junction etc.
The observations I've made on driving habits over recent years are truly shocking - some folk should hand their licence back in and catch the bus!
I'm not an instructor, but an experienced road user (motorbike IAM, car, cycle, pedestrian) with a lot of common sense
The main problem is the 'Fact' that all drivers think that they are the best driver in the world. 😂😂.
That includes you so!
Well said sir
I have noticed that driving standards are dropping year by year.
Respect to you for putting this up mate, honestly I totally agree with everything that you’ve said, I can’t fault you at all. 👍
@@WayneTulip-zm9gw thank you buddy
That’s alright mate, you’re always very welcome, if mr perfect thinks he’s so good at driving let’s make him drive around central London, see how long he survives! 😂
I think the human race is devolving, shocking driving from the Range Rover! I hope I don’t come across Luxtor on the road!
Hi D I UK, another interesting video!, thank you. The events you describe and explain are not uncommon, it does seem that many people are very confused about what is proper on roundabouts and I do see many examples when travelling, certainly more than enough to make very very much more cautious and observant when approaching them with other traffic. As it happens I am deeply embedded in the habit of frequent glances at my mirrors and constant awareness of traffic behind and to the side of me, my primary concern being whether or not they are faster or slower than me, its like some sort of juggling act! how can I adjust my speed and position to ensure that I can negotiate the exit I want without risk of conflict. The most common issue for me here is that especially with slower traffic there is that element of total unpredictability!, it is abundantly clear that some drivers do not seem to know where they are going or how to get there.
To the best of my understanding this would seem to be down to lack of training and experience, probably rooted in the manner of how they were taught and the predilection for rote learning of prescriptive 'rules' that are based on doctrine not observation. The underlying problem here would be that it requires a good deal of confidence to be able to allow your eyes to see and your brain to calculate so that you can make adjustments on the fly without really thinking about them, what I call the 'auto-pilot', or the descriptive method.
The problem I think with the prescriptive model is that one has to not only know and understand what all the rules are but also be able to choose the 'right' one in time to react in the dynamic traffic situations we face, in particular at roundabouts.
The other topic you discuss is the nature of the hostility you encounter inn your comments section. Here we have the other side of human nature where given nthat most people do not ever really question what they think they have been told and believe, it just has to be true or all is lost!. This means that lacking rational foundations for those beliefs when they bare challenged in any serious way the natural reaction is to take offence!, that you are attacking them personally not just what they believe.
The thing about this is that there is nothing we can do for them!, just let it pass! it is certainly not worth getting into any argument about sensible people ewho are interested in reality and facts will always be willing to engage in rational debate, anyone who acts differently might just be dek=luded or might just be in a bit of a bad mood, both will pass on their own if ignored, like children having tantrums!.
Cheers, Richard.
Hi Diss, I wouldn't even try and explain myself to these guys in the comments...they have all fallen into their own personal rules of the road around the areas that they drive on a regular basis and think EVERYONE else should automatically know the same..even learners... the fact is that they don't understand that learners don't understand normal every day driving. only take on board what trained people have to say and ignore the rest...
Love every video you do and your efforts to get the message across... many thanks... Vern
@@NwaHp3 thank you so much, really appreciate it Vern!
Hi, I've been driving for over 55 years & the attitude of the driver of the Range Rover is I'm sorry to say, quite common & definitely wrong. Its a very selfish & arrogant mindset which will be very difficult to change. I whole heartily agree with you in every way. Learner or not, roundabouts create very dangerous conditions & exiting is probably the worst part & yes I would do the same as your learner driver, because changing lanes again is very dangerous to do quickly. Keep up the good work as you might just change someone's mindset.
Epic mic drop at the end.
Can't believe you even had to make this.
Safe ☑
Legal ☑
Problem ❌
These people walk (and drive?) among us!
It was correct to keep the left signal on. 1-0.
A couple of points:
1. Your pupil was perfectly correct to keep his indicator on, because he was intending to move left. There's a difference between what you intend to do, and what you ARE doing. People need to understand that.
2. Every time you say "haitch" I die a little inside. Sorry.
So what's the word for returning to the left while leaving the roundabout? Transitioning...
Don't worry about armchair experts. I simply ignore them 👍
ADI here. Good video
We, as experienced drivers would consider flooring it on the roundabout to shut down the Range Rover and with good judgment this would be fine. You cannot expect a learner to carry this out as he already has enough to do without the added task of clever driving.
No need to cancel the left indicator, just an unnecessary task adding to distraction, pupil should just be advised to focus on steering straight until the danger was over.
Your car is displaying L plates, that's a clue that progress might be a little slower than desired, and that decisions might be delayed, or inappropriate. Sadly, few others heed the warning. Nothing wrong with what the learner did, apart from not adding enough speed.
I've taught a few lads from farms, all with tractor licences and road experience. Like yours, confident, good vehicle control, perfect manoeuvring abilities, but all were very slow to add speed. Sometimes initially difficult to get them above 30 mph.
Is a restricted parking zone the same as a controlled parking zone, you usually need a permit to park in the bays but some bays are pay and display and you don’t need a permit for pay and display bays?
Don't you know .an indicator is a way of telling the car behind that it's safe to undertake 😂😂😂some people are dimm😂😂😂
Here is one example of you tube ghosting.
how the hell did he he ge you to get on to a roundabout on his first driving lesson? i need an instructor who can teach me in 20 hours, not 40.
At the end of my first lesson, my instructor told me that he thought I was doing well already, and that I should apply for my test. I was sceptical, but he said that he'd have me ready by the time my test came through. In those days, it took about six weeks to get a test and, sure enough, six weeks and six lessons later (and with lots of practice with my dad in between), I passed with a nice clean pass from the examiner. 😁
Because his pupil could already drive to a fairly high standard. The first lesson with a pupil who has never driven before would be v different.
for one, the land rover should not have entered the roundabout, it was such a risk to roll into that gap as it did. the only benefit i see to turning the indicator off is to say to the land rover i know you are there and i know you are going to be silly and overtake on the left, just do it and get out the way. had you continued to change lane then the fault would lie with you and your learner, but i know you would not let that get to that point, because the the land rover was established in lane 1 and although its a do not, the lane change has more risk in this situation and more responsibility on that cam car if a collision happens.
overall, the space wasnt there to exit to lane 1, even an experienced driver would likely choose not to move lane. there are a lot of deluded people out there but thanks to comments sections they can give there opinion, doesnt mean it is correct.
It seems you’ve had your first troll on your channel, it shows it’s getting more views. Sadly, there will be more, it’s knowing when to respond that’s the bit to get your head around.
@@infinty1412 yeah exactly, I won’t reply in a video again, I’m just going to ignore silly comments as it’s not worth the time
@@JamesSimpkinsADI
Just a little constructive criticism of the response video and why I actually do not see a response video like this as a bad thing even to a troll.
Your response to the fool does come across as a little aggressive even if that was not the intent and all that will ever do is cause the fool to double down on his misguided opinion, trolls be trolls regardless.
While the original comment is misguided and foolish it is still a valid comment given others will be of similar opinions and those people are probably not trolls like this one.
Don't disregard all troll like comments if you can dissect them and turn them into a lesson on how a driving instructor would do it and we all get to see your thought process in the process.
IF just one person takes a different approach to their driving on the back of this video then that is a positive surely and anything that makes the roads safer for all can only be a good thing?
Good job on dissecting the comment and explaining your view :D
There was absolutely no excuse for the Range Rover to have passed on the left. The RR increased risk by positioning itself into your blind spot as it made the undertake and not considering your car would likely be returning to the normal driving position shortly after exiting the roundabout.
Have you even watched this video? Start looking and you will clearly see the RR is clearly in view through the back windows. I assume very much that that car has side view mirrors.
@BillCarthy So your point is, that makes it ok for the Range Rover to overtake on the left after exiting the roundabout?
@@MrMWhithamDoesn't matter whether it was after exiting a roundabout or not. The Range Rover committed no offence. Because there's a car going under the speed limit in lane 2 as shown here do you expect every car in lane 1 must slow down to lane 2 speed and obstruct those who want to pass?
@BillCarthy Ok then Bill. Why don't you show me in the Highway Code or The Official DVSA Guide to Driving where it says:
"Because there's a car going under the speed limit in lane 2 it is permissible to overtake on the left. Or maybe the Highway Code Rule 268.
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake.
Clearly explained I think.
@@MrMWhitham
Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence. See an explanation of the abbreviations.
Although failure to comply with the other rules of the Code will not, in itself, cause a person to be prosecuted, The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the Traffic Acts (see The road user and the law) to establish liability. This includes rules which use advisory wording such as ‘should/should not’ or ‘do/do not’.
Both rules 163 and 268 are not Must/Must Not rules.
There is nothing wrong with what your learner chose to do . I remember my first lesson many heats ago and being nervous to spiral out. As I hadn't developed that skill of understanding what people are doing around me. The first one stayed right too long . But we ain't expecting everything by the book. The second one I possibly would still exit right lane in the van especially if im unsure of their position . If I intend to get into the lef5 lane as soon as possible I would still keep the left signal on to say don't come past . He hasn't done anything wrong in my opinion on the 2nd round and I would much rarther see a bit of caution than go go I must exit left lane and cut the nose off the car. Yes me and you may have floored it or maybe not. Even with 30 years I wouldn't gamble if unsure. When I deicide to move over I need to be 100% sure it's safe. Which I feel is what he was doing correctly. He showed good awareness and chose the correct decision for what he felt comfortable with. It doesn't matter if someone say they would exit left lane . He is the one driving and I would much rarther someone make a decision based on what they think is safe than following the text book to the letter. I can't see anything wrong with your teaching, nor that know how to teach
@@wrightwoodwork thank you very much I appreciate it
In my country you're not allowed to overtake somebody outside a town on the wrong lane on a dual carriageway.In the town there's no problem to do so if it's safe. I'm just interested in driving, a taxi driver (and also lorry driver for a while) and don't have any points on my licence. I know that driving instructors have a lot more knowledge about the rules of traffic than me, but in my opinion I see nothing wrong what you and your pupil did!
@@irmakatzel6928 thank you so much
With all due respect I dont think you understand the difference between do not and must not. Undertaking is not an offence an the police would never pull in a car for undertaking. If they did then we would have no bus drivers left on the road.
If you are moving into a lane to your left it is YOUR responsibility to give way to all vehicles including cyclists, with due care and attention. I'm driving for almost 40 years and discussed this with police officers and 95% of them agreed.
This "must not" "should not" thing is painful and gets rehashed on every video Every driving instructor will be aware of the implications as it's not rocket science.
Undertaking, except for in a couple of prescribed circumstances, is not approved under the Highway Code and, if you are prosecuted for it, you will be prosecuted for "careless driving",
Driving through a red traffic light is not approved under the Highway Code and, if you are prosecuted for it, you will be prosecuted for "driving through a red light".
Either way, it's points on your licence and a fine. 🙄
@richardsutton01 You will be find and given penalty points for undertaking if and only if the standard of driving fell well below the standard expected from a competent and carefully driver, which is Careless driving... Overtaking on the left does not fall under any of these.
How many lanes between 2 vehicles would it take that undertaking changes from careless driving to safe driving?
@BillCarthy undertaking on the left can easily become careless driving and maybe even dangerous driving. I've seen quite a few police videos where they have pulled a driver because he was weaving in and out of lanes at speed on a motorway just to get ahead in busy traffic involving lots of undertaking.
@@BillCarthy As I said, this "must not" "should not" thing is painful and gets rehashed on every video.
As I also said, and have said on dozens of videos over the last 10 years, if you wish to overtake on the left with a Police Officer behind you in anything other than one of the few undertaking situations which are approved in the Highway Code, then go for it. Just be sure to report back here afterwards. 🤣
@@richardsutton01
More rubbish as usual. You are seriously saying a cop will pull in all those drivers in lanes 1, 2 and 3 for legally passing a hogger who's in lane 4. Get a grip ffs.
Indicator should stay on. Range Rover driver is totally in the wrong. Simple.
Richard