The Evolution of the BMW M3 [E30, E36, E46, E90, F80]
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- The BMW M3 is the quintessential sports car LEGEND! Rear-Wheel Drive, tons of horsepower, balanced weight and incredible handling. Ever since the E30, and all the way through today, the BMW M3 has been the ruler by which sports cars are measured, and this is how they've evolved over the last 30 years!
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Making the evolution of the m5 would be good and i prefer the e39 i have 2
As i already said in the poll e46 is my favourite bmw m3 or not. Looking at this video i started like e30
The E92 M3
I love m5 f10 so i own 1
The E46 CSL w/ manual gear box (yes, they exist). Regular E46 & the M2CS are my top 3 favorite M3ish cars... I dig the E30 & it's history of racing along with it's origins but... Yes please, I'll have 100hp more w/ my E46. I wish BMW would just stroke & bore the straight six to a 4.2L (like Porsche & their flat 6 4.0L). Might make for an interesting power plant for M car enthusiasts. Smaller body, lightweight (carbon) body panels & a high revving NA 6cyl. The current G8* might drive great but it weighs 2 tons. The 718 GT4 weighs 2900lbs.
I love the m3 they are so cool and unique
E90 m3 🤤
100%
Lots of incorrect info here about F80/82. It was actually the only new M3 to lose weight over its predecessor as it weighed less the E90/92. It also featured extensive use of Carbon Fiber(CFRP) for roof, driveshaft, front strut bar, trunk(M4). It also had extensive cooling that made it truly capable for tracking. The standard brakes and optional CCBs were much better than previous M3s and better than the silly rear floating caliper featured on new G80/82. The engineering put into the F80/82 by Albert Biermann and his team was very impressive, thats why its one of the most reliable M cars and can handle so much more power once tuned. The M2 is smaller in size but does NOT weigh less and doesn't have many of the features of M3/4. The driving position alone is enough to not choose it.
F8x platforms is no were near a G8x platform which destroys the F8x platform looks in & out plus speed. I would skip the F8x unless it’s a CS or GTS based on price and value only BUT would prefer the E9x platform and G8x platforms only. Why? you get the best sounding V8 engine and the more upgraded platfrom with the G8x. A regular competition executive package F8x unless it’s a indivdual color is pretty much the worst option but I would rather have the regular F8x over any E46 m3.
@@beeznuts22 lol I'll stick to my DCT transmission
@@isaiah6838e9x has a dct 😉
@@amgkid3105 even my e46 does and obviously the E9X sedan
Love my F80 M3. Such a well rounded car.
I agree. Wouldn't trade mine for either the new or any of the older. They're awesome.
Its the perfect car (for me at least). A solid daily, trackable, and one you can hoon in on backroads. Looks classy but tough at the same time!
I would love a video on the M5.
Plz I just got a m5 that would be amazing
The E46 is the best looking M3 (imo) but it's also the most well balanced and most beautifully designed both exterior/interior. I honestly think in 20-30 years, these cars will be even more highly sought after.
E92 and E36 also look great
The E46 M3 GTR has a special air conditioned clean room padded cell in my heart
Love my e46 m3 Cabriolet. It’s a 15 year old car - and it’s still quick! The looks are timeless. While the newer cars are also good - who knows how we will feel about them in 20 years.
The Cabrio is not as stiff as the Coupe, but driving it like an old man on a nice day is amazing, and always will be - long after it’s tech has been outclassed. It’s a classic.
People also never mention how great it is to be able to comfortably fit 4 adults in the car for long trips, with luggage! We drive from my home in Munich to the Italian lakes all summer and enjoy it immensely.
It catches eyes today, and it will in 30 years as well!
Great video! I have to say the E-92 M3 is the best M car. And the S65…wow what an engine! I think it’s BMW’s best engine of all time. There is a reason why the S65 won international engine of the year 4 years in a row. I think they are going to be future classics, just going up in price. Such a thrill to rev out.
I love my 2021 M3 Competition. I have had 3 of them and they don't disappoint you.
As someone who has driven almost every m3 (not the g80 or e30) I have to say the e9x and f8x are my favorite
I've owned (1) E46 M3, (2) E9X M3s and (1) F80 M3. For me it's hands down the E9X M3s all day everyday. The steering, the handling, the power, the sound the glorious sound and the overall feel is just right for me. I love them all though. Great video. Thanks.
I came into the car world 7 years ago with 2 cars from 2 games. The R34 GTR from the NFS UNDERGROUND & The M3 GTR NFS MOST WANTED 2005.
Love those legends❤️
E46 M3. Sound is amazing and real steering wheel feedback. Looks has also held up.
My favorite is the f10 m5 , because I love the hard body lines and it reminds me of an e46 lol but bigger. Plus I still love the circular Angel eyes
Always enjoy your videos ! Keep up the good work man!
M2 isn’t lighter 18:20 than M4. Cool video though. Appreciated it
Ideal spec: E90 M3 CRT
Enjoyed the video. I have been lucky to say I have driven e36/46/9x and f80 all multiple times. The e9x is the most special feeling. The v8 just dominates the experience. Felt the most special and more Motorsport than all its predecessors.
I’ve driven them all too they all have pro’s and con’s for me I’ve kept the e46 , but it’s good different gen have been made for competition purposes . The e92 felt abig big but race engine , the f80 snappy steering and sound I didn’t like but acceleration oh and them competition pack alloys amazing , the e46 always felt abit underpowered but I like that (now) . It depends what purpose , I wonder in another 20 years how people’s feelings will change . If I lived in the states I’d defo be saying the e92 was the one for me lol price of gas and bigger roads need that big 4.0 . U.K. winding tight backroads/country roads I just love my e46 even at low speeds the car feels more compared to the rest .
Excellent video. I have an E93, manual, and it's been my best driving experience.
I have driven almost all the M3s going right back to the 80s. Very hard to go past the E46, preferably 2003 onwards. Beautiful balanced twist hugging delight. I don't mind the SMG either. You just have to drive it the way it was intended back then.
It has to be the F80 imo. it ticks all the boxes.Power,Looks,Comfort and not to mention its turbo charged.
Brad you have to drive/experience the F80 to appreciate exactly what bmw have done with this car.
I can garentee after a test drive you to will be converted to a F80 admirer.
Love the video's keep em coming.
From England 🇬🇧
E46/E92 styling for the win. E30/E36 tie in a close second for me. The G80? That has a face only a mother could love.😁😁😅
My only BMW has been my 2004 E46 M3 with 6 speed. Fact is, I
wanted the ragtop because I had driven/ owned 9 minivans raising my family. I needed something "just for me". So, mine in Carbon Black with tan seats still makes me very happy to own. I have had wonderful reliability and when I replace tires, it is like I am getting a new car, type feeling. I really don't have a context on the other models, I just lucked out buying mine and have always been satisfied with this car. I was going to add an M5 to my garage, but my mechanic for my M3 is not recommending that car. So, if I add another M to my garage it will either be an M2 or M3, newer model. The fun part is going to soon come, testing them and then deciding. Thank you for this video, I really enjoyed the history and model details you revealed. Cheers to E46 M3's everywhere!
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Same
Cringe
Same 👊
I've had an E30, 3 E36's, and E46 and my current E92. The E92 is the keeper, with the last true racing derived motorsport engine. None other than Steve Dinan said the S65 V-8 was the very best engine BMW has ever made on Matt Farah's podcast two weeks ago, and that guy knows his engines.
I own E46 and E90. The reason most people love the latter is because of its V8, however, the lack of torque and weight gain don’t make this feel like a step up vs E46. I love M cars but C63 AMG of this gen did the best V8!
my favorite cars in the world are m3s. my dream is an e36 m3 and right now i have a an e92 335 so i’ll get to M level soon and i cannot wait
Idk about where you are, but in my area, 335s cost about as much as an e36 M3.
@@Rumblefan i would be looking for my dream spec, ones near me are beat. if i get one i’m gonna get one that’s been taken care of which is out of my price range
@@jaminjared yeah clean examples are pretty pricey. E36 is still the only generation M3 I’ve been able to find regularly for cheap money, like under $10k even, but of course, they’re usually beat on.
got me an e90 n54
I love them all! I have had 2 E46's a SC'd E92 and now a M2C. They all have their strengths!
Nice man, i have an ess650 e92 M3…looking to get the m2 comp, how is it?
I'd never forget seeing E36 M3 drakkar yellow. Back in late 90s .. always wanted one. I owned e46 m3 for 4 years and f82 m4. All special ... I think one day maybe I should own all 3... E36 46 and f80
Congrats on 700k WOOO!!
great vid, brad:)
Wow I quest everyone has the duck now
E46 with the smg gear box is when M division raised the bar for me , loved the high revving naturally aspirated engine on that car , it made the previous models look weak compared to it .
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Oh shit
What?
@Kai your comment was very good
Thanks a lot:)
I've had two E46 M3s, both were regularly tracked. I absolutely loved both of them. Then, I bought an E92 M3 and realized what I had been missing all those years by holding on to the E46 so long. The E92 M3 is an absolute monster compared to the E46 and it will typically run 6-8 seconds faster laps at the road course. I don't miss my E46 M3 at all, except for its curb appeal.
You’re soooooo correct. I’ve made this exact explanation to everyone I know. I have an e90. Naturally aspirated is true M performance.
I own 2017 f80 m3 competition package and really love the car is amazingly fast
I am considering trading my evo x for an f80, how has it held up in the reliability department? Any mechanical issues?
@@_-GATTI-_ not issues. The M3 is amazing, fast and a lots of fun to drive
if its e46 m3 nfs most wanted is definetly talked about
In my opinion the f80 has been the best M3. The creature comforts in the f80 make it a perfect car for a road trip or rip it on the track. But my 03 e46 is my favorite all around BMW in my personal collection
e92 m3 with a manual transmission. Amazing fun car to drive and that intake sound!!!
I had an e46 I miss it and regret that I sold it. Despite it being a RWD si drove better in the snow than any other car out there. The balance was impecable
My STI says otherwise. But the E46 is def a gold bar car for sure. Ive actually thought of selling my STI for one
Man... E46 M3 is my dream car, timeless body,cheap but good quality German, that power and sound really lovely. I have an E46 sedan 318i and that was nice daily car (sedan 2000s)+the interior of E46 is clean, better that E92&E36 dashboard, I love E46 so much
I love my f80 and all the other M cars that came out. Moving up from two e36’s and a Mini Cooper an M car is an M car they just got more power over the years that’s how I see it. Also my f80 is manual sport + all the time. So I’m doing the driving. Nice video tho
as someone thats owned a 6 speed e46 m3, a e92 zcp m3 with dct and a f82 m4 zcp with dct, I enjoy the e46 and the f82 equally
I have e90 330i with n52b30 M/T 254bhp (euro model) and I think it's the best car I had from what I can get for under 5k. No I-drive system, no fancy things, just solid driving mashine and it feels so good.
great video
Some are making small grills for the newest m3
OMG, this video nails it! E46 M3 is legend!
Love the F8X lmao thing is crazy to drive , so much POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t wait to get my hands on either a E46 or E92
You won’t regret it mate🔥
Ideal Cars, what is your favorite M3 generation. I love the E46 M3!
the e46 might be the best m3 there is, but i prefer the more aggressive looking e36!
E90 🤤👺😈💥💥
E36 or E92 for me
For me its e46 or e96
I have a steel grey e46 m3 6 speed
Great vid! M3 GTR that looks exactly like the NFS model would be my dream car.
Here's a hot take.. I genuinely think M cars have gotten better in every possible way over each generation. Every iteration is like an evolution to the previous in some way. I've driven an e36, e46, e92, and f82..I own an e92 but I can tell you I'm in love with the f82.
Had both the e46 and e93. Love both. My favorite is the e93 but I really miss my e46.
Yep, I’ve driven my e46 M3 for 14 years. I never upgraded because nothing felt like an upgrade. It’s so agile & the gearbox is great. Newer cars feel bloated & big.
I had a 05 Boxster S for 15 years, 140,000 miles. I modded it to keep up with M Coupes. Now I got a 981 Spyder, it keeps up.
@@clu4u yeah, Porsche is still pretty sporty. The M3, M4, C63, RCF, RS5 etc.. are all pretty big & heavy these days. Maybe I should go for a 911 or M2.
I had an e39 m sport and that car was super fun to drive. One of my favorite sleepers
Is that a m5?
I believe so. Wasn't actually branded as an "M5" but had all the M badges and had the same 5.7L v8 with 6 speed manual. I think they just rebranded the m sport to m5 a year or 2 later but I could be wrong
@@viperfanatic13 oh ok That’s good
I’m actually going to look at an E46 tomorrow hope it’s good so I can buy it
Gonna get an M3? Probably can’t go wrong. But I still have a soft spot for the e36 m3 with 4 doors and 5 speed. M3-4-5, oh my!
Then get exactly that, I wanna s54 swap my prefacelft 330i e46
I have the e36 m 345 ( euro spec) I also have a e39 540. They are so different from each other, I love them both. That said, for the the driver interaction experience, the e36 ftw.
Yep, for the few who know the difference!
Had an 85 325, coup it was a factory package car and came standard with koni shocks and body kit in limited numbers. Sold it 20 years ago, They are worth a fortune now.
E46 4Lyfers
I love the F80's and WANT a G80 but my favourite is e36 Light weight and the e92 base model
I like the E36 M3 looks better than the standard E46 , that looked soft to me , the CSL version on the other hand is something else absolutely stunning and looks way more muscular.
I own an e92 manual with sunroof and iDrive, it's really cool. I drove once a e46 SMGII and felt really good but it was like 18 years ago when that car was brutal... but what I really want a new M3 Comp Xdrive so I can have the best of the 2 worlds. To me, the e92 is a better looking car than the e46... thank you so much for your video!
E46 is my favourite M3.
This is why I think the 128i is a good modern replacement for the e30 and e36. They're about the same size an horsepower. And its naturally aspirated. The prices are great now on a 128i. These will increase in price.
I own a 2020 M4 Convertible, a bit too heavy for tracking but a fun daily. I recently purchased a 2021 X4M Competition with is an absolute beast.Yes, it has the 503 HP S58 engine that the new M3 and M4 Comps have.
My favorite is a E39 M5 now that’s the best BMW by looks
the new m3 and m4 will have a awd option and is supposed to come to the U.S in August 2021
is it possible to do a new version of this video including the bmw m3 g80, not to mention theirs an X-drive version of it
There are a ton of e9x cars out there, so I think a lot of people don’t like the e9x M3 models because they are not unique enough, but I have the e90 M3 6MT and added a VF SC. Perfect car. Can’t beat the V8 sound.
I've owned the E36 M3 and the E46 M3, I loved both of them... sold the E46 and wrecked the E36 showing off(go figure lol), tried to rebuild it but was never the same
F80 is the most reliable M car I have ever owned. By far! E46 M3 ZCP (I had the legend and sold it) and E60 V10 both needed new engines due to mfg defects. Those special one off engines ain’t cheap to replace. F80 gets too much hate, it feels and drives great. F80 is easy to tune unlike the older NA cars. And M2 doesn’t weigh less. It’s the M2 wheelbase that makes it extra fun. F80 issue is exhaust sound (not the amazing NA engine anymore) and lack of steering feel, but it’s better in every other way including handling (for best results: 2018 ZCP model with Cup2s)
I don’t like how you explain the f8x m3 m4 I owned all by far this one is a game changer
I have a Phoenix Yellow DINAN S2 E46 M3.
Love it.
I am on team E36. Something about those hard lines, I personally find it to be the best looking of the bunch. Sure it is underpowered comparing it to all future generations but it is still so much fun to drive.
@4:00 ... Hilarious! Good drop lol (DO IT!)
Great video but I've owned both e46 m3 and f80 m3 both Awsum cars but f80 wins hands down in all aspects brilliant to drive on track and day to day tech in that beast is unreal brilliant engineering and they took a lot of that away on the G80 like carbon fiber tail shaft and also the engine bay on the G80 could have been finished a lot nicer f80 engine bay work of art close 2nd e46 best sounding e90 i would still love all the m3's in my garage still great video thumbs up👍💙
I love the look of all the m3s, but I would say the f8x and e9x look the best
I found an 03 330xi and I’m building an m3 out of it 🥴 this video got me more motivated
I really want an F80 , E90, and E46 M3 😍
F80
G80, I bought and love it in and out. Amazing car.
It’s a great car for the blind
It really is amazing. I love it and i am not blind
E36 m3 has been a favorite of mine since i was a kid
E46 is my dream car,now I know that I will never own M one but just regular one even Diesel would be dream come true.
You will one day man. Start with a normal like 328i and then upgrade. Keep working hard and you'll get it :)
What year did BMW address the subframe issue with the E46?
E46 M3 GTR "V8 & Looks and Design" Best Looking M3 (at least in my eyes)... Absolutely love those Bad-Boys...
Add the 1M that was something unexpected and really special , from E92 the M3 started to turn into boat , it was no longer a compact sports car.
My favorite M car is the M140i with the B58 engine.
Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹
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Which one is the fastest? My favorite out of all these prolly m3 e46.
Edit: besides the newest m3 which one is second fastest?
YES!!!!! Im partial to the e36 chassis, but I daily an e46 323ci! Don't be scared that its not the 3.0 guys! 2.5 M52 handles boost better and also sounds way different (deeper, and higher pitched over 4000, similar to like a sport bike or something rather than the crazy rasp with a 3.0)
It's honestly not worth spending the extra few thousand for a 330, as you are only about 35hp shy with the 323, and for about $1000 you can make 325WHP easily with some simple mods and a tune!!!!!
The E46 is and always will be the all time winner.
The E30 M3 was a racecar made on the track then sold the public becuase of the homologation rule whilst the rest were fast production cars put on a track to race. Looks like the orignal becuase of this will always be the most special.
The things is that not all of us are looking for a more comfortable and refine ride, that’s why the e30 is my favorite is the more raw experience between all of them
Jason Camissa did an episode for Hagerty Icons that talked about the M3 and how it was made because of the Mercedes 190E 2.3L 16V.
That was an awesome video. One of the best car videos I’ve ever seen
e30 and e36 are kings, so cute
V8 in the e92 sounds great but the engine noise coming out of the E46 M3 is amazing and if your throw in the CSL airbox, forget about it, eargasms….
Do the M5 next!
I have an 2011 e90 comp package jerez w bamboo beige sunroof delete. Only 4 with these specs in the US.
I LOVE my E93 M3, yeah nowadays there getting farther from the original but it’s still an M car, and the last NA engine BMW used in the M3
GOAT means Greatest Of All Times G.O.A.T
Not just the Motorsport versions any BMW 3-6 series will leave an mark on you!
The M3 e92 is craziest m3 ever made
driving it is like crack to me
what year do you recommend getting for the e36 and e46?
Anything after 1995 for the e36 Bc the obd2 will make it much easier to fit that perfect s54 in there which is bound to happen 😂 It’s the end goal for my 96 e36 and i can tell it’s def worth it 👍🏼