M.2 slot 2 Update. This works very well with my Cooler Master NR200P MAX. I have 2 additional fan at the bottom of my case set to exhaust. On the motherboard. There is a thermal pad between the chipset heatsink and the SSD at M.2 slot 2. I removed that. creating an airgap. The thermal pad that I removed, I placed it on the top side of the SSD on M.2 slot 2. Coz I noticed, that side of the Samsung 980 Pro have the copper heatsink. I said "why not expand the copper heatsink by adding another layer of thermal pad on it?". And it WORKS! The temp was reduced by 12 degrees.! Just to share.
I build one just few weeks ago using a Cooler Master NR200P Max casing. And that really cooled down my i9 13000K. Everything is great with this motherboard even without the Thunderbolt feature. Except the heatsink for the M.2 slot 2. Using the Samsung Magician, I notice in an idle stage. The M.2 slot 1 temperature is around 39 to 42 degrees Celsius. But the M.2 slot 2 is around 61 to 65 degrees Celsius. So, my tip if you going to build a new pc using this motherboard. I suggest replacing the stock thermal pads with new ones in two types of thickness. I believed, the stock thermal pad is not touching the controller chip on the NVME drive as they are thinner than the NAND chips and DRAM. So tonight, I'm going to replace them.
@@Jthe5th I have a updated post. I removed the thermal pad between the chipset heatsink and the M.2 slot 2SSD. Cutting any heat transfer from chipset to SSD. Creating an air gap. Then I placed the thermal pad on the Samsung PRO 980 SSD copper plate heatsink. And it works. It cut down 12 degrees.
i want to get a 13900k pc for creative work. Want it to be smaller than ATX and aesthetic. What matx would you recommend, and what cases should I take a look at?
@@mashextra HI !! just got my z790i edge and l12GE delivered but noctua listed it as not compatible !! I m still waiting for the bracket so i cannot verify it, Have you tried to actually install it? Thanks!
Update: I replaced the stock thermal pad for M.2 Slot 2. Still getting a 67 degrees Celsius. Second attempt, I added another layer of 1mm thick thermal pad. And I'm still getting a 67 degrees Celsius. Does anybody know how to bring the temp down?
Did you find a solution since? M.2 Slot 2 means the one on the bottom closest to the board? The one on top on this board is PCie 3.0? Edit : sorry just saw your updated post below after. I'm planning a 990 pro 4Tb with this board, you think I'll run too hot with that heatsink design / pads?
If I’m building in a Mini-ITX Z790 with 13th gen in mind, should I be looking for a board with bios flashback? It seems no board works out of the box with 13th gen and owners have to put in 12 gen CPU just to upgrade bios. I don’t have access to one so I’m thinking my only option is a board with bios flashback. Awesome content. Thanks for the video.
When the Raid is active, on this motherboard no hard disk is recognized from Bios, this means that software like Acronis with USB Boot does not recognize any disk drive and therefore it is not possible to CLONE the startup disk. I have an open ticket with MSI where they tell me it's normal ! 😵💫
Hey, will this fit in the Lian Li Q58? Planning to make pc with i5 13500 , arc a750 and Lianli q58 and plus some other used gpus like 1080 1070 1060 rx580 etc for comparision and also to run xplane, which is not supported on Intel GPUs
Verry good Overview of this ITX. All questions answered, axcept one. How much GB has the Flash Drive? Is it 8 GB plastic waste or my new win/driver/benchmark Stick? Thx!
Thanks for the review. Very helpful. I have 1 question. Do you think I can fit a Noctua NH-L9i-17xx Chromax Black Low Profile CPU Cooler - 92mm in there?
I'm trying to replace an Asus Strix z690i with this motherboard? Has anyone tested all the m.2 slots on this board to check if all m.2 interfaces connect as x4? On the ASUS boards the daughter board is causing issues and renders on of the m.2 slots to run at x1 instead of x4. It also produces Hardware errors at runtime. It can be monitored in HWinfo64 as HVEA. Correctable PCIexpress error. One or two of these errors are fine but getting 100 each second is not. I got around this by downgrading the PCI 4.0 bus to a PCI Express 3.0 and that solved the hardware errors. I would be curious to know if the MSI z790i has any similar problems.
hmm let me check. I used 1x gen 4 drives and 2x gen 3 drives so didn't notice this issue, I have a load of drives knocking around so I will have a play
@@mashextra My ASUS z690i easily kicks me back to PCIe x1 from x4 speeds when the PC is moved. x1 will not cut it for me. That will only deliver around 800 MB/s Read speed (and maybe write speed, I should probably check my results in Samsung Magican again) on the Samsung 980 PRO. In the MSI z790i board you'll find 3x M.2 slots. 2x PCIe 4.0 slots and 1x PCIe 3.0 m.2 slot. According to the manual the one on the back (m.2_3) and in the front bottom slot (m.2_1) can deliver PCIe 4.0 at x4 speeds (7000 MB/s read speed and around 6000 MB/s write speed when slotting a Samsung 980 Pro in either of these two slots. The m.2_2 sitting on the daughter board above the front m.2 slot can only do PCie 3.0 x4 speeds, which only grants you 3300MB/s read speed on the same m.2 Samsung modules.
@@tibieliasI think you’re mixing them up. The m2_2 slot is the one on the bottom part , the one that has multiple writings on it. The upper one is the m2_1
I ordered a case that comes with a gen 3 riser cable....can I use that with this board (i7 13th gen & 3070) or should I use the one that's currently in my h1 v2?
So you pull the motherboard out of the antistatic plastic bag (which acts like a faraday cage) and you put it directly onto the bag ?? What kind of fool does that ? You just took the risk of saturating the mobo with static charge. That is NOT a good thing to do..
Great info here - not enough itx mobo info out there. Thanks for posting.
Thanks. Will be posting a build log into my Ghost S1 very soon
M.2 slot 2 Update. This works very well with my Cooler Master NR200P MAX. I have 2 additional fan at the bottom of my case set to exhaust. On the motherboard. There is a thermal pad between the chipset heatsink and the SSD at M.2 slot 2. I removed that. creating an airgap. The thermal pad that I removed, I placed it on the top side of the SSD on M.2 slot 2. Coz I noticed, that side of the Samsung 980 Pro have the copper heatsink. I said "why not expand the copper heatsink by adding another layer of thermal pad on it?". And it WORKS! The temp was reduced by 12 degrees.! Just to share.
Thanks for the update mate. I am about to rebuild my itx system so will take a look at that
I build one just few weeks ago using a Cooler Master NR200P Max casing. And that really cooled down my i9 13000K. Everything is great with this motherboard even without the Thunderbolt feature. Except the heatsink for the M.2 slot 2. Using the Samsung Magician, I notice in an idle stage. The M.2 slot 1 temperature is around 39 to 42 degrees Celsius. But the M.2 slot 2 is around 61 to 65 degrees Celsius. So, my tip if you going to build a new pc using this motherboard. I suggest replacing the stock thermal pads with new ones in two types of thickness. I believed, the stock thermal pad is not touching the controller chip on the NVME drive as they are thinner than the NAND chips and DRAM. So tonight, I'm going to replace them.
what cooler did you go with?
did you make the modification you mentioned, I am really curious if the temperatures improved.
@@Jthe5th I have a updated post. I removed the thermal pad between the chipset heatsink and the M.2 slot 2SSD. Cutting any heat transfer from chipset to SSD. Creating an air gap. Then I placed the thermal pad on the Samsung PRO 980 SSD copper plate heatsink. And it works. It cut down 12 degrees.
This one looks great! I used to do my builds using ITX mobos but lately I prefer mATX …. Nevertheless this looks awesome! Thanks for sharing!
i want to get a 13900k pc for creative work. Want it to be smaller than ATX and aesthetic. What matx would you recommend, and what cases should I take a look at?
M-atx motherboards are getting scarce.
bought this a week ago. great itx mobo.
It’s a lovely looking board! I am about to build it into my ghost s1, can’t wait and the 3 ssd’s will be really handy
@@mashextra HI !! just got my z790i edge and l12GE delivered but noctua listed it as not compatible !! I m still waiting for the bracket so i cannot verify it, Have you tried to actually install it? Thanks!
Awesome, answered a lot of my tiny ITX questions with this video. Thanks!
Glad to be able to help. I will be doing a build with it soon, just waiting on the last components 👍
This is a very helpful overview. Thank you!
Great and usefull overview! Did you manage to mount the L12-Ghost Edition without any problems on this board?
Can you please make sure that the noctua L12 GE fits in this board?
Update: I replaced the stock thermal pad for M.2 Slot 2. Still getting a 67 degrees Celsius. Second attempt, I added another layer of 1mm thick thermal pad. And I'm still getting a 67 degrees Celsius. Does anybody know how to bring the temp down?
Did you find a solution since? M.2 Slot 2 means the one on the bottom closest to the board? The one on top on this board is PCie 3.0?
Edit : sorry just saw your updated post below after. I'm planning a 990 pro 4Tb with this board, you think I'll run too hot with that heatsink design / pads?
If I’m building in a Mini-ITX Z790 with 13th gen in mind, should I be looking for a board with bios flashback? It seems no board works out of the box with 13th gen and owners have to put in 12 gen CPU just to upgrade bios. I don’t have access to one so I’m thinking my only option is a board with bios flashback. Awesome content. Thanks for the video.
All 700 series boards work with 13th gen right out of the box
Shame they didn't make the AMD version of this B650E instead of just B650. It's quite lacking in comparison to this board.
AMD versions of same boards are always lacking in function, build and stability too
which 280 AIOs fit on this?
I give like because msi design and it is z790
When the Raid is active, on this motherboard no hard disk is recognized from Bios, this means that software like Acronis with USB Boot does not recognize any disk drive and therefore it is not possible to CLONE the startup disk. I have an open ticket with MSI where they tell me it's normal ! 😵💫
Are the drives showing in the intel raid manager where you setup the raid? Once you have set up the array it may show in Cloning software
@@mashextra My system (boot) drive is not under Raid5.
Hey, will this fit in the Lian Li Q58?
Planning to make pc with i5 13500 , arc a750 and Lianli q58 and plus some other used gpus like 1080 1070 1060 rx580 etc for comparision and also to run xplane, which is not supported on Intel GPUs
thanks, please make more vid
Good video, but I'm not quite following along. Can you make a video on how to install this in my laptop?
😂😂
Nice joke bro😂😂😂
No thunderbolt? Dang it was almost perfect.
Verry good Overview of this ITX. All questions answered, axcept one.
How much GB has the Flash Drive?
Is it 8 GB plastic waste or my new win/driver/benchmark Stick? Thx!
Sure explain the feature. More important want buy this instead of cheaper z690 and b660? BTW what's the price of this board?
They dropped the ball with no thunderbolt
If you have an external GPU would you use the Thunderbolt? Does thunderbolt on the mobo pull the graphics from the gpu?
Great video! Do you know what the 6e card is?
Can this motherboard overclock 13900k i have noctua nhd 15 cooler
Have you built this system yet?
If so, how is the board holding up?
Where does fpanel go u explained everything but this
Great review🙂Could you pls explain how to connect an AIO? Where to plug a pump, etc. Many thanks,👍
Sure, I am going to be working on a build video next week, I will be sure to cover how to connect an AIO 😀
Thanks for the review. Very helpful. I have 1 question. Do you think I can fit a Noctua NH-L9i-17xx Chromax Black Low Profile CPU Cooler - 92mm in there?
Yeah no problem. I actually managed to cram the l12 ghost edition which is much bigger but that was tight
@mashextra Nice review! Does this motherboard support Intel Core i7-13700K straight out of the box?
it sure does
Do you think it will fit into NZXT H1 V2? I'm bit concerned about that SSD heatsink
It did fit fine within my ghost s1, let me see what clearance there is on your h1 in comparison
Hey did you end up trying it on your nzxt h1 v2? I got the same case and was hoping to get this mobo :-)
@@Bokifide76 sorry no. been too busy and kinda decided to go AMD and asus rog strix b650e-i mobo
Does this fit in an nzxt h1 v2 ?
Planned this motherboard for christmas + i5-13600kf or i5-12600k. Sounds good or bad?
its a great combo. currently running a 13600k in mine now
I'm trying to replace an Asus Strix z690i with this motherboard? Has anyone tested all the m.2 slots on this board to check if all m.2 interfaces connect as x4? On the ASUS boards the daughter board is causing issues and renders on of the m.2 slots to run at x1 instead of x4. It also produces Hardware errors at runtime. It can be monitored in HWinfo64 as HVEA. Correctable PCIexpress error. One or two of these errors are fine but getting 100 each second is not. I got around this by downgrading the PCI 4.0 bus to a PCI Express 3.0 and that solved the hardware errors. I would be curious to know if the MSI z790i has any similar problems.
hmm let me check. I used 1x gen 4 drives and 2x gen 3 drives so didn't notice this issue, I have a load of drives knocking around so I will have a play
@@mashextra My ASUS z690i easily kicks me back to PCIe x1 from x4 speeds when the PC is moved. x1 will not cut it for me. That will only deliver around 800 MB/s Read speed (and maybe write speed, I should probably check my results in Samsung Magican again) on the Samsung 980 PRO. In the MSI z790i board you'll find 3x M.2 slots. 2x PCIe 4.0 slots and 1x PCIe 3.0 m.2 slot. According to the manual the one on the back (m.2_3) and in the front bottom slot (m.2_1) can deliver PCIe 4.0 at x4 speeds (7000 MB/s read speed and around 6000 MB/s write speed when slotting a Samsung 980 Pro in either of these two slots. The m.2_2 sitting on the daughter board above the front m.2 slot can only do PCie 3.0 x4 speeds, which only grants you 3300MB/s read speed on the same m.2 Samsung modules.
@@tibieliasI think you’re mixing them up. The m2_2 slot is the one on the bottom part , the one that has multiple writings on it. The upper one is the m2_1
I ordered a case that comes with a gen 3 riser cable....can I use that with this board (i7 13th gen & 3070) or should I use the one that's currently in my h1 v2?
You can certainly use the gen 3 riser but you may have to switch the motherboard pcie to gen 3 too if you get no display through the external gfx card
@@mashextra thank you for the answering so quickly!!
@@mashextra thank you for the answering so quickly!!
hi do i half to do a bio flash?? 12600k?? or is it plug and play?
12600k will be plug and play 👍
Does it fit in the NR200P with Noctua NH-U12A cooler ? It did fit on the Z690I (not by much)
Did you find out the answear ? I’m planning to get the same cooler on this Z790 itx board
@@bogdan12275 yes it fits
Is it okay to pair this with the i3 12100f? Ill just upgrade soon
Yes, it is a good way to get a build up and running then you can get a more powerful CPU in the future when you need it
Went back to using the Magic Keyboard again?
No, I just needed my nuphy for another video I am currently working on 😀
So you pull the motherboard out of the antistatic plastic bag (which acts like a faraday cage) and you put it directly onto the bag ?? What kind of fool does that ? You just took the risk of saturating the mobo with static charge. That is NOT a good thing to do..
This is has to be the dumbest fcking comment I've seen in months. No one gives a sht if he puts it on the bag.
thats mini version :/
Yes this is the itx version, the i in the name always denotes itx with msi