I remember watching the roll in the lot and being like “damn that sounds really clean” and then I watched it on the field and saw they were HAULING ASS the whole time. My jaw dropped lol
I definitely get "it's rennick". His style from phantom to scv is so distinguishable, it's tough to look for any sort of "groundbreaking" writing, but it works and it's fun. I frequently get random beats of his stuck in my head.
Totally agree with a lot of what you guys had to say. Undeniable that they're playing is nothing short of fantastic and that their style of books clearly work, but for me there's very little wow factor. Last line that really blew me away was Vanguard 16
Paul's lines have always gotten to that point of just being flat out good.... Solid. From the UNT pasic lines, Velvet Knights, and Phantom to now. How he keeps that solid of a group and the overall "Rennick" sound and dealing with age outs is beyond amazing. You can always recognize a Paul line after hearing about 30 seconds..... Just my opinion. I'm a huge fan of Paul's lines and work! Great content guys!
So, like you guys said - it's just their flavor. And I have to say that I LOVE this flavor. I get why they're different from other groups, and I don't begrudge anyone who prefers other flavors, but... That sound and level of excellence, along with the musicality of the book, is just so satisfying. Excited to see the other groups give them a run for their money this year. Should be fun!
I agree about it being Rennick... I've listened to this guy's lines since the late 80's. My alma mater JSU used to compete in PASIC against UNT or NTSU along with some other good schools. Everyone knew that if North TX was there, it would be a fight for 2nd. One thing I will differ with in your talk (and since it's a critique, I subscribed and liked the video) is that Rennick is doing more interplay between sections. I believe this has always been the thing that he does consistently more and better than anyone. The parts flow together like listening to a symphony go between string sections... as you said, like butter. That non-unison writing style is the exact reason I like him. Far too many percussion writers are focussing for far too long on unisons. Especially in drum corps where you don't have to compete in volume with a 300 piece brass and woodwind ensemble blasting away taking up all the space. Rennick's music has shape... melody... movement... and somehow manages to be clean early in the season. He has done this with every corps he's been with including Crown and even the old days when for some reason he was at Skyriders. Those old PASIC shows were phenomenal. I assume he still writes those, although I haven't seen a PASIC show in years... you guys should do some of those! Anyway, enjoying your videos!
And not only is Tenno just doing interplay in the battery section, but it musically makes sense between what’s happening in the pit and rest of the ensemble.
Was at their lot at the Rose Bowl - feels like they're playing with a little more oomph than previous years. Maybe it's recency bias but I feel like they're giving more performance energy which boosts the sound too. Quadline in particular brings the hype. They were running that snare feature/long roll a ton in sectionals - it sounds so interesting live - and on the field it's basically a full isolation moment, like Ben Carter said. The show was fine, but that snare feature integration with the corps is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while
Been a great week over this way with commentary on all these great lines. Makes me wonder if it's gonna even be possible for SCV to be dethroned for the Sanford. Maybe it could happen though. Gonna be an interesting season!
If Boston can clean the easier stuff in their book, they'll give JONZ a run for their money. I'm munching popcorn all season to see if we can hold them off.
I'm really hoping to catch up with SCV and BAC right before Allentown to get a much better read of both marching percussion ensembles but so far, I can see why they're the current Top 2 High Percussion Contenders based on their cleanliness and selectively-staged drum features that really showcase their awesome blending of hybrid rudiments within constant dynamic and metric changes. As a front ensembler myself, I give the edge right now to SCV's Pit really emphasizing their given source material in comparison to BAC's Pit (especially with the use of aluphones and an ethereal soundscape that never lets up!)
Just adding to the conversation, the music at 6:30 begins to become fuzzy and it almost seems like it’s because they aren’t committing to the phrase because they are focusing on the very difficult phrase of music and movement that’s coming up next. With that being said, this is one of my favorite lines this season, and the phrase I’m speaking about is one of my favorite moments this season.
Boston's book is one of the more difficult ones I've heard in a while. SCV is on point as always. The blend, balance...and SOOO clean for this early in the season.
love the mind meld look in the faces of the players trying mightily to lock into each other, not stand out or emote outside the unit, observe the focus! nice work Mike & Evan
Really dont think I agree with Boston and Crown's books being harder tbh. I can see why that might be the first thought, but honestly I would have a WAY harder time executing the intricacies and musicality of this book compared to Boston and Crown. I think they are all great this year obviously, but SCV's book seems so refined this year even more than previous years in my opinion. But its an opinion :) not fact lol One of my friends made a great observation while I watched them in the lot, he said that it feels like theres a lot of "zen" like moments of repeating figures or consistent sounds that really play into the "Finding Nirvana" theme, especially that snare break with the extended roll passages
I feel like Rennick's goal is to make good pro musicians or atleast apply pro percussionist skill sets to the marching activity...which is what his books require. It may be more entertaining but I dont think being able to play a BD book perfectly would make you a stronger non-marching musician. If your going to spend this much to do the activity...seems like you should come out of it a strong well prepared musician and not just a strong marching drummer...which isn't a real thing. Cant play pad for a living....
During that long roll the snare drums are doing circle drill in a full circle around the entire core. It’s a huge moment in their show imo
I remember watching the roll in the lot and being like “damn that sounds really clean” and then I watched it on the field and saw they were HAULING ASS the whole time. My jaw dropped lol
@@TheKyleealy they are movin movin. It’s really impressive. Boston and scv are gonna be in fist fight by the end of the season
@@benjermaneee I agree!!
*corps
I definitely get "it's rennick". His style from phantom to scv is so distinguishable, it's tough to look for any sort of "groundbreaking" writing, but it works and it's fun. I frequently get random beats of his stuck in my head.
I call it the “Rennick Groove,” and it’s so catchy. You’ll know it when you hear it and it really sticks with you.
the "SHOT a da SHOT a da" in the quads against snares "SHOT a SHOT a SHOT a" frequently just appears in my head. You know the phrase I mean.
I was there for this lot. Absolutely mind blowing
Totally agree with a lot of what you guys had to say. Undeniable that they're playing is nothing short of fantastic and that their style of books clearly work, but for me there's very little wow factor. Last line that really blew me away was Vanguard 16
Can confirm, the guy on the end of the snareline is one tall guy.
Paul's lines have always gotten to that point of just being flat out good.... Solid. From the UNT pasic lines, Velvet Knights, and Phantom to now. How he keeps that solid of a group and the overall "Rennick" sound and dealing with age outs is beyond amazing. You can always recognize a Paul line after hearing about 30 seconds..... Just my opinion. I'm a huge fan of Paul's lines and work! Great content guys!
Don't forget his time with Crown.
So, like you guys said - it's just their flavor. And I have to say that I LOVE this flavor. I get why they're different from other groups, and I don't begrudge anyone who prefers other flavors, but... That sound and level of excellence, along with the musicality of the book, is just so satisfying.
Excited to see the other groups give them a run for their money this year. Should be fun!
I agree about it being Rennick... I've listened to this guy's lines since the late 80's. My alma mater JSU used to compete in PASIC against UNT or NTSU along with some other good schools. Everyone knew that if North TX was there, it would be a fight for 2nd. One thing I will differ with in your talk (and since it's a critique, I subscribed and liked the video) is that Rennick is doing more interplay between sections. I believe this has always been the thing that he does consistently more and better than anyone. The parts flow together like listening to a symphony go between string sections... as you said, like butter. That non-unison writing style is the exact reason I like him. Far too many percussion writers are focussing for far too long on unisons. Especially in drum corps where you don't have to compete in volume with a 300 piece brass and woodwind ensemble blasting away taking up all the space. Rennick's music has shape... melody... movement... and somehow manages to be clean early in the season. He has done this with every corps he's been with including Crown and even the old days when for some reason he was at Skyriders. Those old PASIC shows were phenomenal. I assume he still writes those, although I haven't seen a PASIC show in years... you guys should do some of those! Anyway, enjoying your videos!
And not only is Tenno just doing interplay in the battery section, but it musically makes sense between what’s happening in the pit and rest of the ensemble.
sam forever known as the tall dude lol
Was at their lot at the Rose Bowl - feels like they're playing with a little more oomph than previous years. Maybe it's recency bias but I feel like they're giving more performance energy which boosts the sound too. Quadline in particular brings the hype.
They were running that snare feature/long roll a ton in sectionals - it sounds so interesting live - and on the field it's basically a full isolation moment, like Ben Carter said. The show was fine, but that snare feature integration with the corps is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while
Been a great week over this way with commentary on all these great lines. Makes me wonder if it's gonna even be possible for SCV to be dethroned for the Sanford. Maybe it could happen though. Gonna be an interesting season!
If Boston can clean the easier stuff in their book, they'll give JONZ a run for their money. I'm munching popcorn all season to see if we can hold them off.
I'm really hoping to catch up with SCV and BAC right before Allentown to get a much better read of both marching percussion ensembles but so far, I can see why they're the current Top 2 High Percussion Contenders based on their cleanliness and selectively-staged drum features that really showcase their awesome blending of hybrid rudiments within constant dynamic and metric changes.
As a front ensembler myself, I give the edge right now to SCV's Pit really emphasizing their given source material in comparison to BAC's Pit (especially with the use of aluphones and an ethereal soundscape that never lets up!)
Just adding to the conversation, the music at 6:30 begins to become fuzzy and it almost seems like it’s because they aren’t committing to the phrase because they are focusing on the very difficult phrase of music and movement that’s coming up next. With that being said, this is one of my favorite lines this season, and the phrase I’m speaking about is one of my favorite moments this season.
Boston's book is one of the more difficult ones I've heard in a while. SCV is on point as always. The blend, balance...and SOOO clean for this early in the season.
I saw the show yesterday.
love the mind meld look in the faces of the players trying mightily to lock into each other, not stand out or emote outside the unit, observe the focus! nice work Mike & Evan
I agree on bac and crown but scv play most of the show which I think helps them a lot correct me if I’m wrong please
1 billion years
I like to announce that I played with some of the basses….So I am in fact famous now😌
GO ETHANNNNNNN
Really dont think I agree with Boston and Crown's books being harder tbh. I can see why that might be the first thought, but honestly I would have a WAY harder time executing the intricacies and musicality of this book compared to Boston and Crown. I think they are all great this year obviously, but SCV's book seems so refined this year even more than previous years in my opinion. But its an opinion :) not fact lol
One of my friends made a great observation while I watched them in the lot, he said that it feels like theres a lot of "zen" like moments of repeating figures or consistent sounds that really play into the "Finding Nirvana" theme, especially that snare break with the extended roll passages
Yess
That roll was staged appropriately in the show. Running across the left field noone else playing.
Guys…. Front ensemble exists
😂
Yes we are aware, and probably carry more weight now with the rule change.
For the algorithm. ✊
Finally 😭 lol
No they have not been,the Blue Devils are big competition but this year they know they are high Percussion.
To this day, we still do not know what the funny thought was ;-;
#elmforkpride
FIRST!!!!
yo no duts? 2:56
a very light dut from the bass i could be wrong
@@itsjustmeepaul Oh yeah I can hear it nevermind. I'll pretend it's not there and get hype over it anyway.
@@VincentITG lol ok
I feel like Rennick's goal is to make good pro musicians or atleast apply pro percussionist skill sets to the marching activity...which is what his books require. It may be more entertaining but I dont think being able to play a BD book perfectly would make you a stronger non-marching musician. If your going to spend this much to do the activity...seems like you should come out of it a strong well prepared musician and not just a strong marching drummer...which isn't a real thing. Cant play pad for a living....
couldn’t have said it better myself
couldnt have said it better myself
I tend to agree. Yawn. Yes, they are good. No argument. Not exciting. BAC and Crown’s books are way more agrresive and exciting to watch.
I like to see less head movement in drum corps... discipline getting there.
The costumes,... just...... NO!!! DCI just officially lost me.
Sounds great as always. Just the book is a bit boring to me idk just my opinion.
It is compared to their previous years
Agreed, a little dryer this year. I like the opener and snare roll spot tho