‘We Were Lied To’: Director Calls Out Netflix's 'Making a Murderer' Over Planted Evidence Claims
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2023
- A new DailyWire+ docuseries promises to set the record straight on the case of Steven Avery, a Wisconsin man exonerated by DNA evidence of a wrongful rape conviction but later arrested for murder. The case of Avery and his nephew, Brendan Dassey, became an international sensation following the release of Netflix's “Making a Murderer" in 2015. Now, a rebuttal series, “Convicting a Murderer,” features members of law enforcement telling their side. The Law&Crime Network’s Angenette Levy spoke with director, Shawn Rech, and series host, Candace Owens, about the project and why they say “Making a Murderer” misled the world.
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Why are they comparing him to a 'normal' teenager when he obviously wasn't?
because their whole argument falls apart when you admit that brendans confession was coerced
Candice states the police officers are human beings and make mistakes. The problem is that their mistakes land innocent people in jail all the time. The bigger issue is that police engage on cover ups after instead of owning up to their mistakes
So police mistakes can’t put innocent in jail. Jury’s put them in prison or set them free. Only police corruption (ie:manufactured evidence) could result in a possible false conviction. But he made himself a murderer. He thought the police would never have the guts to pursue him after their previous mistake. He was bitter and felt he was owed a murder since he’d already served the time. He is definitely not the sharpest crayon in the box if you’ve ever listened him
@@jamba622"He thought" Did he tell you that?
@@sharon4094 It's pointless. There was never a motive provided during trial for Steven because there was none. This is indisputable.
@@sharon4094 yes, yes he did
@@jamba622seriously do you know him or just trying to be sarcastic? Surely I can’t be the only one who watched Making a Murderer & thought it would be great to see all the evidence available, how much more did you find out?
I will NEVER get over Brendans attorney testifying to the fact that he was assisting the prosecutor in obtaining a conviction.
I'm not saying it was right, but in his mind, a plea deal was Dassey's only chance at not serving a very long prison sentence. Again, not right or wrong, but if he had succeeded and Dassey took it, he'd be out already.
@@RavensFanJ Dassey asked to do a polygraph test... instead his dirty lawyer gave the prosecution what they needed.
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I will never get over the fact that his lawyer let him speak to police without him there or that Brendan has a very low IQ and didn't even seem to fully grasp or understand what he was confessing to. His new lawyers have fought so hard for him its heartbreaking and I think Brendan should be free :(
@@amberburroughs5144Are you talking about the day his lawyer went to some Army thing? That was a private investigator that the defense hired to try and make Brendan stop listening to his family and take the plea deal. They then put it in the documentary and made you believe that the police did that.
Breandan literally thought he was going back to class after being questioned….how is that not evidence enough to show he wasn’t all there in the head come tf on
One thing about this case was Steven Avery was suppose to have killed the girl in the shed but his nephew was suppose to have helped kill the girl in a bedroom Which one is it
I think the key to this whole thing is that Candace said that the first few episodes are "free". I've always been a fan of hers until now. We all know (the un-brainwashed that is) that Shapiro has been compromised so you have to take anything from the Daily Wire with a grain of salt. That's just a fact. This is coming from a long time fan of theirs, but it's just been blatantly obvious for while now.
@@baaamakingbaaaaDaily wire is not at all the first sources to expose this show that made millions
@@baaamakingbaaaacompromised how
Especially since there was absolutely no DNA of Teresa anywhere.
@@baaamakingbaaaa Just some FYI...The documentary was finished and ready to go. The producers couldn't find a distributers until Daily Wire. They added all Owens stuff.
This is just so unfair. If Brendan wouldn’t have confessed to all the small details then I truly don’t know if they both would’ve been found guilty but Brendan was so obviously coerced. Anyone who’s watched the full multiple interrogations makes it so obvious that Brendan was making things up as he went due to his mental capacity. So sad and still infuriates me to this day
Unfair to present all the information that Netflix purposely left out cause it didn’t fit their narrative? How is that unfair? Netflix only presented one side -why wasn’t that unfair?
Just get all the info. Not just the tapes. Netflix left so much out
100%, you are correct.
@@SonjaHamburg like what
Yes exactly!!!
Poor Teresa Halbach has been the one lost in this saga.
No she hasn’t if the police did a proper investigation they would have found her killer they wanted that 36 million dollars lawsuit is why Thersea Halbuch killer has never been found
In finding justice for her, it is ultimately about her. This, right now, is about solving her murder.
Hardly.
@@michellemooresings the murder has been solved, but Wisconsin will never betray the LE criminals who framed Steve. The Halbachs have done everything possible to deny Teresa justice.
They can't close any loops because the entire narrative is false, the case is unsolvable and designed that way.
Oh, they interviewed Colborn? Did he explain why exactly he called dispatch to ask about a license plate number that just so happened to belong to Halbach's car, BEFORE it was "found" by the search party?
Yess this was very sus
BOLO
Netflix ruined his marriage! Oh wait, he cheated on his wife. Nevermind.
Wiegert gave him the information in a phone call while Colborn was driving. Colborn pulled over and called dispatch to confirm the information before heading over to the Avery Salvage yard. It's all in the trial transcripts.
Yes they did. In Episode 6. You people are crazy! I hope the producers of Making a Murderer are sued for their lies and slander!
As a stepdaughter of an officer, never trust the police.
My sister is married to an officer. I cannot say I have any trust for the police sadly. They NEED a whole cop overhaul. MORE than what 6 weeks of training r u kidding
Should have years of training. Body cams that cannot be shut off. More cams in & around their vehicles & more whistle-blower laws to cover them.
Wow maybe your family is messed up doesn’t mean all cops are bad
@Drollpanther
You assume I was speaking in reference to one officer. Not hardly, my friend. My comment was made due to being exposed to dozens of backyard BBQ over the span of many years.
They are like a sanctioned private gang.
Their jovial recounting of their deeds, the brotherhood it represented and reinforced, was terrifying.
@@kristinajackson9606still speaks only to your stepfather and his buddies. Is not reflective of officers in general.
One of the Saddest part is even if theyre innocent, avery and brendon have spent most of their lives in jail now, so they lose either way. If they are guilty their in jail, if there innocent whenever thats found out, those 2 still have been in jail for so long that they lost so so so much time.
Why was there blood in the car? When the murder occurred in different location, & why would he leave the car just sitting there in his yard, but burn the body???
And to find the keys after the 6th house check, is just very questionable….. so he got rid of the body but left the keys in the car. Just sitting there waiting for police to come and get them to make sense.
None of it makes sense. Avery was definitely not a good guy (no one ever said he was) but that doesn't mean him and Brendan killed Halbach.
Why do all the conspiracy theorists believe Steven Avery was a smart person to begin with lol. 😂
They didn't find the key til the 3rd time they were in his home looking for evidence
Clearly all that and more was carefully planned by powerful parties. It’s not a coincidence that the whole Avery family IQ was below average. Obviously I feel sorry for them for carrying such pain for almost their entire life, but I feel more sorry for Teresa, because the true killer still free drinking beer every Sunday.
Only US Brandons believes they are guilty
The boy clearly was taken advantage of and should not have been sent to jail. Imo
maliciously railroaded into a false confession to be exact.
@@ksask4436 Another Netflix fool.
The "boy" was an adult convicted by a jury provided with evidence only a jury in a murder case would get and not "true" crime fans
😂😂😂😂
ID Discovery actually aired a Rebuttal piece from the Police’s side of things back in 2016. It was a special episode of Front Page. So this is in-fact, not the first rebuttal piece to this story.
It's such a shame that the nephew was even dragged into this. I think they're both innocent but I feel especially sorry for the kid who didn't even understand what was happening.
How do you believe TH’s remains were found in the fire pit?
@@andrewthornton6192 I don't understand your question. Do you not think she was burned? So where's her body then?
His guilty af. Maybe the kid had nothing to do with it tho. Steven is a trash bag killer tho. Started with killing cats and beating his gfs then went to kidnapping a lady at gunpoint and proceeded to final kill someone in the most incompetent way ever
@@Moneyovertruth I researched the case more. They're both guilty. I found a phone call between him and his mom and he says he did it.
@@ashleysalazar2012😂😂😂😂😂
The prosecution have pushed two conflicting stories to convict two people of the same crime. The evidence doesn't support both Averys being guilty.
Sure it does if your watch or read the transcripts from the real trial and not some edited TV show lol. The kid maybe is innocent but Steven is a guilty trash bag
yes it absolutely does
They should have never had the same mental case narcissistic, perverted prosecutor for both cases. Here it's not allowed but Wisconsin "justice" system seems to get away with what they want.
Thats because Brendan's brother did it
@@Moneyovertruth you never read the transcripts
People just don’t realize how far people will go to make their (multi million dollar lawsuits) go away, regardless of his “past”, they simply returned the favor and ruined them, only God knows the whole story and Will Himself deal with those involved, sad story for all involved here. Still a crooked area
I think you are right. And now they would face 2 multi million dollar lawsuits. I firmly believe that is why Brendan is still in the clink.
Why would police officers care about a lawsuit that wouldn’t come directly out of their pockets? Sacrifice their careers/jail time for the government, seems far fetched.
@@user-wv9qj9nm6bdo u know about lawsuits Avery had a lawsuit on manitowoc County so if the county pays Avery all them millions it will effect the community how dnt uk that
@user-wv9qj9nm6b A lawsuit that big would bankrupt the town. Money lost in it would be the same money that pays the crooked cops' salaries & retirements. I would worry about it if I were them.
That would be true if the town had to pay for it which they wouldn’t the insurance company the town has for such lawsuits would.
when the police are just as big if not bigger criminals than the people they investigate it will always cause doubt and uncertainty around cases they are involved in.. especially in small towns and departments with 0 oversight and accountability.
Is the actual trial available for streaming? I’d like to see that.
Shawn Rech said that if what Brendan originally told the police was true then he had the opportunity to saves Halbachs life. Correction. What he originally told the police WAS the truth. He was just playing video games after school. Not sure how he could’ve saved Teresa’s life.
No go back to the phone call with his mom. Barb said he could have been a hero and saved her life. Shawn was talking about the damming calls brendan made with his family.
The first thing he ever Said was that he didn't know anything, and I believe that was the truth
Media is not only an influencer- intentionally or not, but it is also transport for concerns that require a voice for the vulnerable who might otherwise be overlooked. A huge responsibility.
Wow, perfectly stated!
Yep. Which is a shame that MAM outright lied & altered audio to make people say things they did not.
Which media transport Steven Avery’s concerns ?
I'm a print journalist and years ago I covered homicide almost exclusively.. I've been to 400-500 murder scenes, and all these years later I still wrestle with doubts that I may have aided the vindication of the guilty and, in one case, accused an innocent man of the torture and murder of his wife and baby. I will carry the doubts, and the guilt, to my grave.
It’s so hard to watch anything when they tell you their shaping a certain narrative.
i cant believe i was manipulated in 2018 😂
I've since come to learn that the innocence project is just about as self serving & corrupt at this Netflix series is.
Steven Avery is a cold blooded murderer and he is rightfully in prison, to anyone who actually read the facts of the case at least. To those who watched the Netflix doc exclusively, you have a warped view on the subject, one that tries to paint a guy who R'd and murdered an innocent woman as being set up.
As soon as anyone starts saying words like conservative or liberal blah blah blah it just isn’t relevant. Who cares what you support.
So I live in Green Bay when the series came out, people that lived here through the actual investigation and trial said TONS of evidence showing his guilt, was left out. MaM is heavily biased, I could tell this at the time I watched it.
LOL. Using past-as-prelude mantra is not evidence showing guilt in the Halbach murder investigation.
@@ksask4436 are you suggesting the people that actually experienced the trial as it happened are less correct than an edited show from a few years ago? Cute thought
@@Buechs79 No, that is not my suggestion at all.
@@Buechs79 When you said "TONS of evidence showing his guilt, was left out" referring to MAM series (#1?) - I responded that past-as-prelude mantra is not evidence showing guilt in this specific murder investigation. Without you specifying what makes up the "TONS of evidence" I would not be able to conclude or suggest anything different.
@@ksask4436 well the entire prosecution case was left out….. I was stating what people who lived here, where the trail actually happened, have said to me from watching the show. I don’t have a show to give it all to you.
If Candace cannot see that Brendan is clearly innocent, it gives me concern.
As much as I loathe Candace's dishonest brand of politics, she's right for once on this matter. They're both guilty as sin.
I think we may have to wait for an Episode 9 bombshell on that. Candace has indicated that this documentary will be taking some big twists and turns.
I'm starting to wonder whether Stephen's motivation for involving Brendan in the "clean-up" may have been to pin Teresa's murder on him, knowing that if he was caught, Brendan would likely receive a lesser sentence than he would, being a minor and having an intellectual disability.
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out and whether justice has been served, or whether one of them has been wrongly convicted.
@@SelenaSea Interesting take. It's also incredibly damning that Steven never used Brenden as an alibi at the beginning. Even though he was definitely with him. Avery panicked and gave countless different stories.
All I’m saying is, the entire Sheriffs department, including the DA are 100% involved in the death of Teresa. In addition, using criminals to help them out or they would be convicted of their crimes. Follow the facts it all leads to the original officer.
Yeah you're right. The cops murdered her after she responded to a request to take photos of a minivan on Avery's property, where they then put his DNA in her vehicle, then hid her vehicle on his property, put the keys to it in his bedroom, and placed her bone fragments ALSO on his property.
Seems logical. Derp.
Yup, and as flawed a human as Avery is, he’s about to win a 30mil dollar lawsuit and murders a woman he has help him sell cars? It’s absolutely ridiculous
@@kevink6420 If you repeat what you just said a few times, you might figure out what framing someone looks like.
@@miked172 Or you might sound like a conspiracy theorist who looks for a reason, despite mounds of evidence, to defend a guy who murdered an innocent women who showed up at his scrap yard to take pictures of his car.
@@kevink6420 no, I tend to have an Occam's Razor approach. The people who kill people on a daily basis and get away with it, and were close to having to pay out $30M, and are legally allowed to lie in their profession were far more likely to have done the crime than the guy who just spent 18 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit.
The lack of evidence that the Netflix series had was the issue. It twisted testimony and omitted evidence from the series. The guilt is more apparent when it includes all the evidence.
It's a TV show.
@my1vice that was a show, but the case is real a life was lost. That life had value, so it is not just a show.
@@imjustme9479
It is a show when it deliberately deceives the viewers to further an agenda.
The case is separate. And has been solved and justice has been determined by a jury.
It's tragic that the victim's family has to be subjected to ridiculous conspiracies.
@my1vice I'm certain Avery is behind bars, so yeah, that's justice. What agenda do you presume is being pushed?
@@imjustme9479
With regards to MaM and its makers, I think it is just to sensationalize a case and to make money.
There is a "first" film they made, that was shown at a festival and then buried and it is said to show Avery in a completely different light.
I believe the original concept of "Making a Murderer" was to show how prison made SA into a murderer. Laura, after all, had a prior involvement with the Bureau of Prisons.
But MaM has no credibility and no intentions of "truth" just due to the fact they left the vial aspect in the final cut of the series when that was debunked years earlier by even the FBI.
Candace should've stayed out of this. She's so biased and opinionated about anything and everything I don't trust her to be objective and fair in any way.
You could say that about everybody in the news business.
@@ralphiecifaretto8961
No, you couldn’t. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@RuminatingRaptor Yeah, you could. Why don't you give me a list of so called "objective journalists" for me?
You are absolutely right about Candace! She puts propaganda out all the time!!!!
She provides facts to back up her opinions. At that point it’s a “conclusion” not an opinion. I am so glad somebody presented all of the evidence rather than just evidence that fits the desired conclusion as Netflix did.
It is convenient for Candace Owens to rely on the argument mistakes happen, however, when the mistake is steeped in corruption, and involves someone planting evidence in a self serving action, I'm afraid it just does not convince me to see it her way.
Right. The fact that we all make mistakes does not relativize the fact that cops must not make mistakes that throw innocent people into prison.
I take it you didn’t watch the documentary?
this isn't a corruption its organized crime, a legal mafia
I could NOT agree with you more! Wow, I'm simply stunned.
Right? Candace Owen’s siding with the corrupt state on this one is unsurprising
I haven't watched any of this show yet, but I always had a bad feeling about Brendan's brother and step dad. They're creepy.
using you're emotions as a starting point is definitely not the way you wanna look into this
I think Bobby and the stepdad killed Teresa
I always thought the original show was a bit one-sided in favour of the accused.
Their premise was to prove police “made a murderer” where there wasn’t one. So of course it was one sided. That was their goal from the start.
@@jamba622 Well no, there definitely was a murderer that's indisputable. MAM #1/2 definitely did not dispute that.
@@Beeppoop Doing the same thing, except more in depth with the Avery character bashing.
Past-as-prelude mantra in the first few episodes sets the tone for the viewer. This is an old trick but works.
@@Beeppoop so now you have all the facts.
@@Beeppoopthey claim they are showing you the truth, & the truth is Avery @ least, IS guilty of this crime. I hate Candace, but I’m interested to see if they actually will put ALL the evidence into this new show.
The same officers were used over and over because they were the planters. The same two officers planted all the evidence.
It wasn't a "mistake." They were involved in the lawsuit against them by Avery. It's hard to believe the lies Law&Crime is promoting.
And Candace Owen's. She has taken an ugly turn and is now a big supporter of lies and has been for s several years now.
Do you have proof they planted evidence?
@@clarissa8477 Yes
@@clarissa8477 There's also proof of hiding evidence.
@@user-rn9gj5py6l Proof?
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled”
Such corruption throughout the justice system.
Yo Angenette levy was a baddie back in the day
Why are people so afraid of the TRUTH …
it's not hard to admit you got fooled by a popular show that made millions and won Emmys
@@johnmike121 Exactly. I will gladly admit that I got sucked into the hype. With that said, I am able to digest new information and form new opinions (Avery is definitely guilty). But, there are a lot of pleebs who are too fragile to upset a worldview they've adopted.
"I don't understand why people get upset when police officers make mistakes. They make mistakes all the time."
She’s a boot licker.
It’s so interesting how much sympathy and attention is give to the Avery family The victim hardly mentioned! And the police officers are the criminals! This is so turned upside down!
The documentary was not about the victim. It was about Steven and his nephew.
It’s a shame people like you aren’t bothered by the fact that the real perpetrators of Theresa’s murder/ disappearance have not been investigated and are walking round free while two clearly innocent people are unjustly locked up. Thank God their are a few intelligent honest people out there who want to see the law upheld and justice done for Theresa.
@@jezedwards3858 It's a shame people like you are bothered by a MURDERER being in jail. The jury said he was guilty and all of his appeals have been denied!! Case closed!!!
@@rickreallylikedthevideobut7899 That’s the sort of talk that made your country great…! What a thicko 🙄
@@jezedwards3858there's the respectful chat I was looking for
"I love the opportunity to prove someone wrong." Wow. What a way to live.
Cringingly Bias
what's wrong with that?
@@GrayHughesInvestigates It's OK if you got endurance. Oh, but you need PROOF.
Sounds like a fun way to live.
@@SLITHERIS Pays the bills...
The Adnan Syed series was completely awful as well. That murderer is a free man now because of that crap docu series.
Brendan clearly has special needs - whether they're innocent or not, he was absolutely railroaded. The police behaved badly which in turn tainted the investigation. It stinks.
What about season 2? Will there be a rebuttal on that too?
I almost fell for it, until I looked into the case myself and realized how much Netflix left out
I didn't want any spoiler while I was watching Making A Murderer. But when I finished, I looked more into the case and I don't doubt that Avery is guilty.
What did they leave out that shows he’s 100% guilty . Do tell
Same here, after reading about his past and everything left out of the documentary, it paints a totally different picture of him. What a pos and he's right where he belongs imo.
@@katelynreece2235 The jury said he was guilty and all of his appeals have been denied. Case closed!!!
@@rickreallylikedthevideobut7899 But it's not closed.. Post-conviction is actively appealing.
She asks "how is Candace qualified to host this story because she's so political?" As if the mainstream media today isn't agregiously political. 😅
There are plenty of non political people that would have been a better choice. The host of this show is just one example.
Actually Candace is great n will probably do a good job as the host.
I agree there could have been a better host.
@jasminek5557 she is a clueless right wing fool.
Candace is why it will be hard to believe anything about this film. She's too extreme. Too one sided. The film is a hard pass for me.
Brendan confession was over turned by 4 judges as false confession no evidence to support Brendan was even there
Candace is not my kind of pleasant "journalists" to me she's like Oprah, no digging into the facts, not asking the serious questions. What happened to Brendan is a disgrace - the interrogation shouldn't have taken place without a parent or family member, he was only 16 then. They questioned him for hours without any brakes. Whatever he's answer was, the cops kept asking. Brendan with his IQ or anyone at that age might have finally said what they wanted to hear & believed the cops that he was admitted to go home - IF he only said the truth - "There truth" - no evidence what so ever, that he unalived her. I don't believe it. Steven is the guilty one. Why didn't they call in law enforcement who knows how to handle evidence.
Candace isn't a journalist.
Steven Avery is guilty. Making a murderer edited testimony together to make it sound like people were saying things they weren’t saying and answering questions with answers they weren’t giving. Making a murderer was biased and untrue. The makers already had their conclusion before they started making it and had to make it come to the conclusion they wanted.
I always thought Avery was guilty.
A lot of pure lies and facts left out. Netflix made pure garbage this time.
I think Brendan Dassey is innocent though
You guys really think he was smart enough to clean up every single speck of blood and DNA from Theresa in his trailer and garage?! Gtfohhhhhh
Moira Demos and Laura Ricciardi should also be in jail !
Never make your mind up based in a documentary, always do your own research.
There is no neutrality in the USA anymore. It is either left or right. I rather trust European journalism.
I'd say most European news outlets do not play on people's emotions as much as in the US, but aside from that I don't know what's to prefer. It's all left wing here (in most countries here it is also funded by the government directly, so naturally they rarely speak ill of the government).
Thank you so much for bringing the real facts to light. As a Manitowoc resident, I never for a minute thought he was innocent. Shame on the makers of the Netflix series for capitalizing on a horrific situation and on top of it, making monsters look like heroes!! Death threat to hard working police and investigators due to the skewed information is also deplorable!! The police admit to some mistakes! People act as if they have never made a mistake in their job, Especially if it is not a situation that is dealt with every day!
The thought of what that girl and her family went through is unimaginable, but to have them also accused of “not caring” because they weren’t crying on film is just a twist of the knife in their backs.
I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if I had anything to do with making the Netflix series.
Again, shame on all of them!!
Yeah I'm local as well and when people were demanding justice for Avery I just wanted to scream at them as to how much they've been misled. The cops didn't frame him. The cops found bone fragments to a murdered woman, her keys, and her car all on his property. He was CLEARLY guilty of murder, and the show and it's creators should be sued for the damage they caused
The creators of the netflix doc are the real guilty ones.
Moira Demos and Laura Ricciardi should also be in jail !
This case is shad asf. From Brendon interrogation to mishandling of evidence, everything around this case is obscure.
Would put my hand in the fire for Avery, no! But even less for the authorities. Avery is not a saint and is very complex character, but had 0 motives to kill Teresa. In this one I stay with his version more
Why did Teresa say that Avery creeped her out before she died? Why was it that Avery scheduled for her to come by his car lot using his sisters information? Why did he admit that she was in his house?
Just watched the Convicting a Murderer series. It lays it all out to the point it sickened me I ever believed in this pos.
He molested his own nieces and nephews... he murdered animals. Do yourself a favor and watch Convicting a Murderer.
Avery a complex character!? If you call a dim witted, murdering psychopath complex then have at it. Thanks for the laugh before bed.
Why were the original county officers allowed on the property? That alone I would have said not guilty. Period.
If Avery was innocent, the Innocence Project would have gotten him out long ago. They are great at getting killers out of prison. The only murderer that was made was Steven Avery making a murderer out of his nephew. Tragic.
The cognitive dissonance in these comments is crazy. Avery was so guilty yet the deliberate deception in the original documentary convinced so many people otherwise. It’s a shame this new documentary is behind a pay wall. It’s worth your money to watch it based on the first four episodes I’ve seen.
More than half of you obviously haven't watched the new docuseries. Just still believing what they saw in the first documentary.
The Avery "Truthers" are insufferable. They ignore proven facts like the call Colburn made to run Theresa's plate. They still believe he helped murder her! Insanity.
If he wanted this documentary to be taken seriously he shouldn't have used Owens.
You live in Clown World and believe MSM and Hollywood to get your facts? Got it. 🤡🤡
Make all episodes free!
I like seeing both sides of the story, and saw allegations against him!
Poor Brandon 😟
Poor Theresa...
Just remember, even if the cops were doing things that were shady, it doesn't mean these two are innocent.
There's more evidence proving that they are innocent than there is evidence proving that they aren't
Also doesnt mean Steven did it....I mean right?
@@Sb-sz3cn right. The problem is, I see a lot of people think that because the cops were not perfect that he's innocent. In other words it doesn't matter to the truth.
I agree the cops have been known to use illegal means to convict guilty men before….OJ.
@@toecutter303 you clearly have no concept of how criminal justice works
I still have a hard time accepting the fact Avery was about to be a millionaire for being imprisoned as a innocent man, but the cops were on the hook career wise, and needed to wind him up… did his family ever receive a penny for his wrongful conviction.. he was certainly entitled to it..
but a man who was well known, decided to attack and threaten a woman on the beach.
Plus he killed that auto trader photographer then parked her car on his property, threw her keys on floor behind dresser.. and just happened to burn her body on the backside of property where the cops just happened to find it… those cops we’re waiting for the smoke to hit the air so they could get him..
The minute he was arrested for her death, his lawsuit was dismissed
Only Kocourek, Vogel, and the Manitowoc County Insurance were liable for restitution. Personally, I find it hard to believe officers who never even served with the men from the 1985 wrongful conviction would risk their careers to help them. And he did receive 400k.
Insurance probably wouldn’t have covered the full 32 million.
@@steve8383They would have absolutely needed to sue to even get a whiff of that money from the insurance company. They specifically said based on the County's actions, it was specifically outside the realm of whatever coverage they had.
5:56 "This is the first time we added a layer of commentary"... Please, hiring Candace Owens to be the face of the series is a HUGE, THICK, GOOEY layer of commentary over the whole thing. Huge mistake.
Yup
Get your clot shots & watch CNN.
🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@thaijen 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
No dna found in the trailer lol. Theresa’s key was found but it didn’t have her dna on it lol
If anyone remembers, the local media there crucified them in their reports on the case. Think about this the only time a jury should convict is if it is beyond reasonable doubt, well the fact is because there are so many unanswered questions, that is the very definition of reasonable doubt
Unless provided all the evidence and discovery the jury was (we're not) it's impossible to say there's unanswered questions
I remember watching the first one...and something about it felt off to me. It certainly was interesting, but I felt like there were things we weren't being told. And now it makes complete sense.
Does this "documentary rebuttal" address anything current? Does it mention why there are multiple witnesses of Bobby in possession of the RAV4? Or how the discovery of the RAV4 on the ASY actually happened and when Pagel actually knew about it?
Sentences straight from the circuit court judge's response:
"Even if Bobby was found in the possession of the victim’s automobile on the night of November 5, 2005, there is only speculation and no evidence to prove that Bobby was in possession of the car or that he had exclusive control over the vehicle prior to that night."
"Once again, the affidavit links Bobby Dassey to being in possession of the RAV-4 after the homicide took place. There is nothing in the affidavit that establishes that Bobby had possession or conclusive possession of the vehicle prior to that time."
Judge's argument concludes based on the evidence in this investigation that Bobby could have went joy riding in a known murder victim's vehicle AFTER accidentally & innocently stumbling upon her RAV4 with noticeable smears, drops and flakes of blood in the front and a spattering of blood in the cargo area. No suspicions here. Just glad he wiped his own fingerprints away and was courteous enough not to contaminate that blood. So because there is no direct link to Bobby having access BEFORE or during the murder he cannot be a Denny suspect? How in the world is this OK?
Now watch the second season. You will constantly see the list of names that were too cowardly to participate
True! I went away from MAM feeling like he probably did it .. where the hive mind when bonkers just based on the “documentary” alone. It’s crazy how much was left out .. edited, simply false narratives that supported Steven ..not the truth ..and wish more people had open minds and actually evaluated the case before going bonkers. I always ask the “truthers” if Steven was let out .. would you want that guy as your Nextdoor neighbor. How about giving him a room in your house?
@@ksask4436 Of course they won't get into that. . It is much easier to attack an old movie that had access to a limited amount of information at the time. and by the comments it appears people buy right into this instead of doing research. If you don't believe Netflix do your own research. Fortunately there are many who have and those people have provided more info for seekers of the truth.
@@mizconti Sure, no concerns here.
Do you have any actual response to what I said above or did you reply to the wrong person?
No one ever mentions the Avery sycophants on the Serial Podcast... will they ever apologize for how wrong they were?
Ive just watched the first 4 parts of convicting a murderer...oh my lord how disgusting his supporters are. Not those who truly welcomed new info but those refusing to consider new evidence.
These people disgust me.
she has presented zero 'new evidence'
I was convinced of his guilt after watching Making a Murderer in 2015/16 ..
@@bellaollie2037 you clearly haven't watched it then. She presents everything those vile women withheld or wilfully edited to present a false narrative.
Shame on you for such lazy ignorance
you must be crazy because there has been zero 'new evidence' and even though you responded, you also provided zero 'new evidence' but just showed how ignorant and lazy you are to blindly accept and follow what the msm says @@MusbCrazy80
Do better - its embarrassing
The man is innocent
It never made sense that he would do this and leave everything on his property. I still believe someone else did this and the cops who interrogated Brandon should be arrested.
@bobrzycapolaI Arrested Ur Mom Last Night.
You should watch the first 2 episodes at least of convicting a murderer. It’ll change your mind.
@@doofusrickie ???
It seems Avery thought he could commit this crime and then turn around and say "See!! they are pinning it on me bc of the lawsuit". Which, he has and gained supporters worldwide in the process.
@jodierenee6994 yeah i guess but I can’t get over how he lit a cat on fire and dragged a dog on a chain outside a moving car. I’m fine with him staying in prison for the rest of his life for that.
Avery lied about everything, until friends, relatives, & neighbors 'reminded' him. 18yrs later, his defense still hasn't made a meaningful difference; just 'preaching to the choir'. He's as guilty as anyone ever.
Huge mistake involving Candice -whether or not making a murderer was set up or not she’s probably the most uninformed commentator on the daily wire, it seriously hurts the entire argument just because she’s involved and it’s extremely strange how she and the director say it’s the number one documentary right now but is only available on daily wire +. Seems more like a weird conspiracy limited in a daily wire echochamber than actually trying to spread a meaningful message
I agree.
Agree. I cannot STAND HER
That's the point tho, they have no evidence and no case, which is why that's the platform and the host
I disagree.
@@thenerktwins lol true, it’s understandable why no other companies wanted to fund this project
Who in there right mind would believe anything coming out of Candace owens what a joke
Me cause I’m not an idiotic sheep.
some one who's mind is open
I think it’s just violent that people would paint someone as vile as this guy appears to be as anything other than what he actually is, seeing the things that were edited out of the Netflix series is wrong and it’s misinformation and it’s violent to the viewer, it’s propaganda it’s very wrong
what about the cop who called in to run the plate number 2 days before they found the car ?
Avery's only defense was that he was framed. Convicting a Murder has completely destroyed that narrative as far as I am concerned. Mainly just because they point out how deceptive Making a Murderer was with they way they omitted or edited/manipulated evidence. If Avery really was framed, there would have been no need to edit and omit evidence the way they did. This new documentary is just destroying the narrative of Making a Murderer. And if Avery wasn't framed, then he is clearly guilty.
Avery wasn't framed. He is a narcissistic psychopath that went off the rails at women after being locked up for 18 years.
The fact that he now blames his family instead of the police is just another delusion of his.
Yup! I was always somewhat skeptical of the original documentary. Convicting a Murderer spells it all out. But the Steven Avery "Truthers" absolutely will not be bothered to watch it.
I can't stand Candace Owens. She's always harping on some ridiculous bs and thinks everything is 100% one way or another. I think she secretly enjoys having a "shock value" to her. That being said, I'd be open minded to having different opinions on the Avery and Dassey cases if irrefutable proof came to light. But as of right now I think they were the sacrificial lambs, so to speak. Someone in a position of power could've easily done the crimes and pinned it on those two. Time will tell. Interesting case(s)...
💯 with you! Open to evidence of guilt that wasn’t shown in the doc, but there were so many issues that it seems that reasonable doubt seems like it should’ve been a no brainer :(
I haven't watched Convicting a Murderer because "Candace Owens bad!". Wake up.
Making a murderer was an infomercial for the defense. Plain and simple
Anyone know or have a theory of what Averys motive to kill Teresa was? I mean he got out of jail and was about to be awarded a lot of money. So why would he jeopardize that?
Because he is a psychopath. It was just another psychopathic thing for him to do in his psychopathic everyday life. Stop projecting your normal personality rationale onto him. Educate yourself about psychopathy and you will understand WHY he does what he does. Oh and PRAY you are never entangled with one; I sincerely doubt you would survive it.
@kateb7155 yeah you need to chill. There were no signs of psychotic behaviour prior and was proven innocent for his first imprisonment.
@@kateb7155 Yeah, I recommend you talk to someone about your feelings.
He wasn’t “just about to be awarded money” watch the new series!
Candace explains a little about Avery's motives at @39 minutes in on her YT podcast entitled "The Real, Unedited Police Testimony". Hope this helps.
The people in prison are there for a good reason.
If you got into "Making a Murderer" then youre believing what some filmmakers have put on screen.
They didn't have to tell the truth...
And they didn't!
Candice owens has clearly not listened to the 8 hours of interrigation recordings of bredan dassey. Ive listened to 4 ibterveiwes in full length twice and still can't make up my mind 😢
The evidence of guilt against those two is overwhelming. For them not to be guilty, would require a massive conspiracy to frame these two, and also keep free the true killer. Different agencies would have to involved. For them not to be gully, and these theories to to be true, it seems police would have to likely have been the killers themselves
Mate you don't know what your talking about listen to the 2 interviews brendan daseey does in the back of an inspectors car then listen to the 4 hour interview in which they do a press conference straight after then listen to the interview after the investigators do after his lawyer sets him up with his mate to try get a confession, apart from his confession please show me his evidence of guilt
@@robb7615 dna doesn’t lie.
@@bec630 they've been found guilty of killing Teresa in 2 different ways. It's completely ludicrous.
@@bec630 Brendon Dassey DNA is not found on anything. Steven Avery is a different case, but if you get chance I honestly recommend listening to all of Brendon Dasseys interviews and try making your mind up on his guilt it is very difficult it is a split decision qt the apelic Court, and even a judge agreed and dismissed the case.
You are talking through your backside he was told say that to his mam by corrupt cops
Those cops was disgusting so it’s gross to let them lie this changed my few on her
I'm really surprised they didn't give everybody polygraphs
The evidence doesn’t match up did she watch the first documentary at all and reach the case
Anything with Candice Owen unfortunately loses credibility. People shouldn't watch it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grow up!
I disagree, it gives it more credibility.
I still do NOT believe they are guilty, the county and state did NOT have the 36 million to pay the lawsuit so they had to stop him somehow
LoL.... Ridiculous.
So why not just shoot Steve?
Or Jodi before she got locked up? She was home all alone in that trailer everyday.
What's the point of sneaking the truck onto the property? Why take that risk? If you planted Avery's blood in it, who cares where it is found?
How did they know SA had a cut on his finger to plant blood on the ignition? Pretty good guess?
If you're going to feed a BS attack story to the kid, why not plant blood on the shackles?
The whole "he was set up" theory is laughable.
@@my1vice that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I guess we will never know what happened since the cops lied and the other nephew lied and had numerous incriminating searches on his computer, but the cops didn't bother looking at him too much
Uhm....except the state and officers never were on the hook for 36 mil.
And he was never going to get $36 million, that was a made up number they were demanding. Also 6 of those 18 years in prison were for the attempted kidnapping at gunpoint charge. He was technically in prison for 12 years for wrongful conviction.
Probably would have watched this if candance and the blaze weren't involved 🤦🏾♂️
One question I have, nobody waiting on millions of dollars would commit this crime. The state would be broke so what better way to rebut the series then to pay Candice. It’s all a lie. Man is sitting that really didn’t commit the crime. Brandon did it and Steven took the blame.
It’s because at that point he considered himself untouchable. Steven was not a very stable person when he was originally convicted. After 18 years of unjust incarceration I believe he became a monster.
Bobby did it
@@Lil.black.dress84 There's 0 physical evidence linking Bobby to the murder. Only anecdotal that wasn't even allowed into a courtroom because Sowinski's affidavit so blatantly differed from his emails he sent to the defense team in 2016. Lest we forget Penny Bernstein -- witness testimony is far from the best evidence. And as for Bobby, the guy has never had a criminal history and is living a quiet life with wife and kid(s). Poor guy will look out his window at torches and pitchforks for the rest of his life over a girl he most likely never even met.
Nothing makes me more convinced of their innocence than candace owens getting involved
That part!
That's like multiple layers of cognitive bias deep.
Yeah, that makes sense...not!
I don't like that I have to keep fiddling with the volume when the narration and the interview are such different levels
Steven Avery tortured animals, so he deserves life in prison regardless.
He's basically admitting he only went to the Daily Wire because no one else was interested and is also admitting that Owens' was just added at the end, presumably as a condition from the Daily Wire. He's trying to get the Owen's stink off, but it's too late bro. Saying she's just an anchor, and didn't contribute to the content otherwise just means you picked the wrong person.
Candace has a huge fan base. What are you even talking about?
Could see some lawsuits in the future against this "documentary".
With attorney Ben Shapiro on the _Daily Wire_ leadership team supporting Candace, I'm sure they have their best lawyers all over this and aren't unduly worried.😢
@@SelenaSea Nice one.
Sorry Candice...I don't think most children had a grand father who called them over to smoke a joint. Again, Candace your assumptions about people, what they are capable of at an older age, (your insulting characterization of Trumps ability to use a computer) etc..are very wrong. You really are out of touch.
All the focus on their innocence or guilt takes so much away from the actual victim,Theresa. It's an absolute circus at this stage. She was used then and is still used even during her death. All of this is just sickening how they use this whole situation just for gain now. Sick
Candace is not a credible person at all...and she gives off bad vibes.
I agree
You believe Steven Avery over her? Okay that's kind of weird
@@xjcrossx who said I believed Avery? Lmfao
@@youngbubbles…do you?
Why exactly is she not credible. Is it because she isn’t a CNN anchor😂
Why did Netflix leave out all that information? Candace owens makes good points on info that was left out. A must see documentary. Very well made
Which information was left out?
The info that was inadmissible to the Halbach murder investigation and subsequent prosecution of Avery & Brendan Dassey?
Candace Owens has a lot of nerve supposedly calling people out for misinformation, she’s a conservative conspiracy theorist spewing nut. what a hypocrite. i’ll pass.
Avery was railroaded and convicted of a crime he did not commit....the first one. However, he's guilty as sin for the murder. He hid that woman's car on his property with blood in it, you had bone fragments on his property, and all of this is where she was last seen.
I don’t see Steven Avery as a good guy. There was a lot of evidence against him and he had a long history of violent crimes.