The Separatists That Wouldn't Quit - All the CIS Holdouts in CANON - Star Wars CIS Lore
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- After the Clone Wars some Separatist in the CIS decided not to lay down their arms and surrender to the new Empire. See how Tarkin, Galen Erso, Krennic, General Kalani and many other Clone Wars veterans played a part in the Separatist Remnant.
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"Finally, after 60 years of fighting the Seperatists are victorious! Vindicated in their criticism of the Republic! Justified through the Rise of Palpatine! WE WERE RIGHT! WE ARE JUSTICE!" -Kalani after killing Kylo and Rey
roger roger - 3B3-9999. a random B1-I2 battle droid (I for improved cognition, hardwhere would have improved in those 60 years, and still be cheap)
Tbh id actually be happy if a regular bounty hunter or a mandalorian killed rey and kylo
I really want more of the CIS and i love the cis starships
Kalani is actually probably capable of a return that dramatic.
One day the CSI will be back... You will see.
Never give up, keep fighting the republics corruption. This is awesome that they are still around in the sequel trioligy.
Roger roger
THEY ARE OUR BATTLEDROIDS AND THEY SHALL KNOW NO FEAR!
UHHH OHHH
Cassian Andor from Rogue One was actually a member of the Separatists before joining the rebellion!
Mac Wade he and his family was from a sep world I think
@@davidpitts5851 He and his family were members of an anti-Republic cell that was being backed by the Separatists. Cassian's father was killed by Republic troops when he was protesting the Republic's invasion of their world.
Mac Wade
Now I actually have a little respect for him.
Hopefully we will learn more about Cassian Andor in the Disney plus series.
Hmm something to think about, the republic became the empire and the separatists became the rebels (some of then any way) does that mean the separatists actually won in the end.
Yeah in a way
You could say they did, “from a certain point of view.” ;)
zakiducky I see what u did there
The Republic and Separatists were both casualties to the Galactic Empire.
In a way. But the separtist militrary werent the good guys, when the citizens became rebels their real grievances came to the surface.
It would be cool if general Kalani was found by Lando and his droids help the resistance. I feel having all of palpatines living enemies uniting against him one last time would be epic
*The Clone Wars Droid Veteran Association*
For those who won't quit saying "Roger Roger"...
Roger Roger
Roger-roger-roger-roger-RoGeR!!!!
*Indistinct mad B1-noises*
Roger roger
Roger Roger
It Could be awesome if we got to see more of The separatists in The Mandalorian series. Just a tease of a former CIS General or even a small separatist holdout with both humans and droids fighting for their survial
Great name
I wish there was a Kalani vs Thrawn match up in Rebels.
Honestly, the war ending after Anikan kills that room of leaders makes no sense, since we see that there is an entire council, and Palpatine mentions "hundreds" of separatist worlds in the movies. The creation of the Galactic Empire would if anything completely justify the separatist movement, and I'd think they'd double down on their war effort, and with Palpatine no longer having any way to play both sides, I think the Empire would get stomped
Yeah points like that could make for good vids
With the main military leaders (dooku and grievous), and the main leadership all dead, and the cis council wanting peace (we see this in an episode of the clone wars). I dont think the cis's military doctrine and war effort were effective anymore.
@@helixvoidecho idk, I feel like out of hundreds of systems, someone would fill those power voids pretty quickly, and yes they wanted peace, but I don't think they would be naive enough to believe they could coexist alongside an empire that was born from a republic that was already so against their freedom that they started a glactic wide war to stop it
Plus, dooku and grievous were more reason the CIS war effort was failing, due to taking direct orders from palpatine, and in dooku's case, actually knowing that palpatine was playing both sides.
And if that information were to get out at all, or a link were made between sidious and palpatine, then that's it, the CIS would definitely keep fighting
the big issue is there were countless battles at the time of the shut down order, meaning millions of battle droids and scores of planets would have been lost before the droids could be reactivated. this alone would break the moral of many worlds, combine that with brutal "hiroshima" type attacks would make many planetary governments want peace anyway.
what would be left of the CIS military (planets not being attacked/with large enough reserves to recapture the territory and droids lost imediately after the shut down order, aswell as fleets and their attached ground forces. these could be rallied along side numerous foundry worlds (whose sole purpose was produce droids, tanks and ships). its down to the officers, many would want to avoid war crimes or brutal punishment as traitors and either become criminals or continue fighting, and would try and organise their forces abit.
so many worlds would choose to fight, but many would simply give up.
I still hope we see some Separatists droids and ships in Episode IX as part of the Resistance.
I had that same hope for the previous two movies :(
It would be cool but it would never happen
They must be upgraded or have new more powerful ships otherwise they will be rekt
We saw poe dameron and black squadron fight suicide charge droid starfighters and gold b2 droids in the poe dameron comics where they search for that old dude from the opening of tfa
So if the new trade federation that is planetbound joins the resistance.. we could totally see em
Yeah, but they would be destroyed in just a few seconds because of the armament of the Resurgeant Class Battlecruisers
What if Kalani secretly started a droid factory but no one knows and the separatist will come out of no where and win the war
I would love to kinda see that in episode 9.😂😂
And imagine, he would have had like 20 years to advance and build new droids, maybe without Interruption.
Game 007 The Separatists shall rise again!
Episode 9: Kelani strikes back 😂
That's what i'm hoping for too.
All hail the CIS
I like the Legends version of the holdouts.
I like some aspects of both
I have an RP character who is an ex-CIS general who fled to Wild Space shortly before the droid shutdown code was activated.
Imagine seeing Kalani in ep 9
He is probably in it lol. Id be surprised if he wasn't
What a coincidence TK
@@hodor9851 How is tatooine?
@@TK-hr7lk Ive been transferred to Jakku now
@@hodor9851 I'm still stuck on Endor. But my superiors are thinking about moving into the unkown regions.
"Gizor Delso has been defeated, scratch one droid rebellion".
Yeah he's gonna be a big part of the legends version of this vid
@@MetaNerdzLore I figured.
MetaNerdz Lore is that vid coming soon?
I do hope that we get to see more of the Separatists in the films, perhaps a group of separatists joining the Rebellion in an anthology film. Seeing B2s fighting Stormtroopers would be quite fun.
Yeah I really hope so in something
These canon stories don't compare to Gizor Delto building an entire fleet and army on Mustafar
AngryEchidna BLAST THAT BUG!
Spin off series where Kalani goes to that anti-organic droid planet and essentially becomes their Thrawn.
I'd find it interesting to see humans in clone trooper armor fighting alongside legitimate clone troopers against a major CIS stronghold in the first few years of the Outer Rim pacification
The Separatist cause can not be defeated! The rise of the Empire is proof of the corruption in the Republic and the justification of the rebellion. So keep fighting and never surrender!
I’m glad you site your sources un like the stupendous wave.
Kix must have had a mental break down, when he got told what happend.
Damn I didnt think of that. Imagine trying to grasp that you might as well have gone thousands of years in the future
@@MetaNerdzLore Everyone you knew is dead. And you are the last Jango Fett clone that lives. That must have been such a depressing moment..
For the Separatist Alliance!
"You have been captured by the Separatist Alliance!"
"Separatist Alliance? What..."
"Incapacitate and capture. Roger, roger"
ZAAAP
@@qdaniele97 for the Republic!
Watch out for those wristrockets.
Just like the simulations.
Can you do a video on the Separatists that joined the Rebellion? I've always liked the idea that the Separatist cause was carried on by the Rebel alliance and I've always been interested in content concerning that transition period.
star wars new sequel writers: lets bring back the past.
the sequels: ITS FREE REAL STATE.
*It's free real estate.
Jack Rutledge Goembel i don’t know if he’s being serious 😂
2:27 Wait, Dunium and Dolamite? Of course, the Tough Black Rock That Won't Cop Out When There's Danger All About!
Hail Science!
Never surrender! For the separatist alliance!!!
I would kill to get a Battlefront 2 galactic assault map for the separatist hold out that we saw in Star Wars Rebels with the separatists versus the Empire instead of the Rebellion.
Rebel Appliance it could be an alternative timeline when where either Erza never arrived or escaped before the Empire arrived
Always "organics" leading a bunch of droids. Kind of disappointing, Star Wars could have so much more.
I was hoping for some holdout cells of self-repurposed old battledroids stubbornly fighting their "programmed" guerilla war to the bitter end. Imagine a unit of grizzled old battle-hardened battledroids from any old Vietnam war movie, a bunch of badass B1s who've learned some new tricks or repaired/modified themselves with captured hardware, etc.
P
That sounds like what Kalani was doing but he’s never been used again
General Kalani
Basically Kalani
Damn, now THAT’S a story I’d love to see.
this actually brings up a good point. At one point it was estimated that the Separatist Droid army outnumbered even the entire organic population of the galaxy by at least three to one! So where did all of those droids end up? I am imagining fleets of Lukrehulks stranded in dead space, packed to the brim with deactivated battle droids.
What do you think?
"WE'RE NOT DONE FIGHTING YET, YOU BASTARDS!"- Zeon and Separatists after end of OYW and Clone Wars
damn
but did it have sand
How large was the Separatist Navy in EU/Legends?
@Shadow Trooper105
In the Wikipedia it does hint that they haf atleast more than 4 million. It said that the largest fleets had 4,000 ships and there were hundreds of these large fleets.
@@thorshammer7883 I can confirm.
@@aetavism838
Thank you.
@@thorshammer7883 But ships means fighters and capital ships and not only capital ships.
@@laurinkaebelmann6373
No they obviously don't.
7:36. If anyone’s seen Star Trek you should known about khan, well this dudes name from Star Wars is thrawn, there’s some similarity’s
Im impressed Raxis fell with such little resistance and much of its population just out right fled.
But yes a very useful reference for my campaign that I am running.
Could we get a legends version? Like with Gizor Delso, the sikuurdian and thallassian slavers. And of course the imperial heroes Admiral Screed and General Romodi?
So Kalani is the final chosen one?
I wanna see any character that used to be a Separatist join the Rebels. And not the guy from Rogue One that was like seven when the Clone Wars ended.
I see MetaNerdz release a new separatist vid, I click.
I look forward to the legends version :D
We serve forever in life and death the glorious CIS!
I want General Kalani in star wars 9.
KALANI my new favortie droid ...well after r2d2 of course (lust for the last sentence you just said^^)
Kalani is actually working for Darth Sidious in the Rise of Skywalker!
CONFIRMED!!!!
Kalani also happens to be Rey's real father!
that cryogenic frozen clone, Kicks sure has a rude awakening.
Kalani and Thrawn should end the sequels trilogy and introduce the Yuuzhan Vong for another trilogy. Send the First Order back to the dung heap.
ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL!
like if you remember thos 3 brave blue droids.
Never forget.
Razor The One The Light actually it was “ALL FOR ONE AND ALL FOR AUGH” as he was crushed by a spider droid
Come on cis keep fighting
Oh u like it thanks
This video is in your Droids playlist 3 times in a row fyi!
FOR THE SEPARATIST ALLIANCE!
The reason they kept fighting because *they activated bonus reinforcements ala battlefront 2* .
Edit: *The old one not the shitstrom that is the new one*
Kalani is overated.
*_OOM-9_** IS WHERE ITS AT*
Can’t forget our boi in yellow!
See, if Palpatine wanted to rule his empire with fear AND tactics, he wouldn't have issues the shut down order, leaving more of these holdouts, thus keeping the war going. And with the jedi dead, he'd be able to draft republic citizens into the grand army as stormtroopers to fortify their strength, and use his knowledge of the separatists to take them down quickly and efficiently
I want a game where I can play a full campain of Sepratists but politicaly.
"We shall never surrender!"
Winston Churchill
They should bring back Kalani. I like to see them build a sperate fraction besides Imps and new republic. Both are cut from the same cloth. Maybe in the Mandalorian or Ahsoka.
I agree. Perhaps with any future wars, a section of space could be used for worlds that don't want to be involved, and perhaps Kalani can become the head of a droid army to protect it should it ever come to threat. They could work with Jedi and other heroes to protect the galaxy. I also just want this as an excuse to see droids again lol
Even A Droid Story.
What if OOM 9 comes from The bottom of a lake in Naboo with the trade federation droid army and destroys the first order in episode 9
What about the A Droid Story?
So did the shutdown command have a certain range Because Kalani was still functioning. I know he said that he _preventing_ the shutdown command, but how?
Poor battle droids. They didn’t deserve this fate.
“Kalani kills both Kylo and Rey in Episode 9”
Finally, Star Wars is good again !
The virgin Rebels vs the chad CIS
Man i wish more of us survived ;-;
I think it's pretty cool how some Seperatist Planets held out up to 50 years after The Clone Wars ended.
It would be nice if we got an update to this video now that it has been confirmed in cannon that the Separatists are live and well during the sequel era. After the fall of the empire they reformed into the New Separatist Union and the Confederacy of Corporate Systems. What they are up to during the events of episodes 7-9 is never explained but they are around as well as a couple of imperial holdouts who are also sitting out the conflict.
In aftermath, they mention that the new separatist union forms after the fall of the empire, so its arguable that there was a large separatist hold out in that region that had the support of the people.
I yet have to understand why the hell palpatine deactivated the droids. He could have had droids as primary shock force on the empire, and it'd been scores better.
Droids don't need food, places to sleep, bathrooms, cannot surrender, and are far more scary and cold than regular people.
TIEs are literally worse vulture droids, for example.
One problem I have with how droids are usually depicted, they aren’t shown to be that much of a leg up on clones. They’re pretty incompetent outside of tactical droids and they were only effective in large numbers.
If they were portrayed more like the IG-11 from the Mandalorian, I could imagine an army of droids being anyone’s worst nightmare, but that is just an exception.
Because if he kept the droids everyone would know that he was controlling the separatists of course. You cant just fake an entire war then reveal that you were in control the whole time, his control over the senate and republic wasnt so firm by that point that he could get away with that.
can you do the all female mercenary group Mistryl shadow guard? They were pretty badass
Will General Kalani and his battle droids appear in episode 9?
We can hope
First to vote hope their in ep 9 of star wars
Me too
Nope
NEVAH SURRENDAHHH!!!!!!
this is really cool and im a big fan of the droids which adds to that
Im just imagining the droids managing ro regain numbers nd wipe out most of the empire
So what happened to Kalani anyway?
@Synthetic Lord I saw that in the Rebels recap; many would like a more flesh-out answer.
Yeah I'm sure they won't leave it open
MetaNerdz shows to us his spoiler*
-Suprise to be sure, but a welcome one
LONG LIVE TO THE CIS!
yes please do one for "OG" canon ~~~
Never gonna give you up! Never gonna take you down!
i would think that the cis droids wouldn't be in ep 9 or at least up front (so basically a background) but maybe in Star Wars Resistance or in Star Wars Mandalor
YAY CANNON
Background Music ? Pls
I love Kalani, It reminds me WWII Japanese Holdouts
qdaniele97 but japanese wwii holdouts were pondscum nothing like the honorable kalani
I hope that someday the separatist alliance reforms and wins.
Can u do Neimoidians
Kalani Killng Rey And Kylo, Now that's a movie Id pay to see, "AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF WAITING! THE SEPARATISTS HAVE ENDED THIS WAR! THE GALAXY BEING OURS!"
Right now you can buy a crate full of Mosin Nagants really cheaply despite the lions share of them being manufactured in the 1800's. The reason being that so many were manufactured that they are still cheap despite no longer being in production. While not the best choice of weapon in this day and age tactically. If you wanted to quickly arm up a small militia to defend a compound with limited resources, the Mosin is your gun. Think about this on a galactic scale, billions of not quadrillions of these B1 droids scattered across the galaxy. If you need some cheap trigger fingers, hit up the local scrap yard and get you a few thousand clankers. Even for non military purposes, maybe you are starting a restaurant, grab ten rusty B1's and reprogram them, boom, you got cheap waiters to run food out to customer's tables, and you don't even have to pay them. I'm surprised you don't see repurposed B1's everywhere post clone wars.
Droids keep fighting while clone die from advanced aging
So no one gonna talk about the mention of Kinx the 501st clone trooper frozen for 50 years?
Hope in ep 9 Kalani with massive CIS fleet help the resistance to destroy this pathetic first order 😈
Long live the CIS
Can you do a video on the DC-15S blaster pistol and the EC-17 scout trooper pistol?
CIS were the good guys in the clone wars changed my mind.
Why are you locking all of your old videos behind member only?
name of the backround music
I wonder if by that time they figured out a way to reverse the accelerated aging of clones. Then Kix would have been the last clone and been able to live a normal life
Well I might be wrong, but if I remember correctly Boba Fett met a Clone rocking 120-something years, who gives him a sample of his blood to stop the degeneration of his clone body.
@@Pfeifenkraut is that canon or legends continuity?
@@jaylynabrams9564 Thats the problem. I don't know where I read that.
They stuck to what they believed in.
OH! You meant Disney's corporate self-proclaimed "canon". The one stripped of the adult nuance in favor of marketability to children. You should probably be more clear.
I love the C.I.S
Is the "A rogue one novel" canon or legends ?
Yesssssssss
I would like 2 see the return of the cis
Like cis vs the rebels or the new republic
Or the first order