Low Carb Gold Coast 2022 - Q&A Session Day 1
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- The presenters from the first day of 'Low Carb Gold Coast 2022' answer questions from the audience. Featuring Dr. Lucy Burns, Dr. Penny Figtree, Dr. Sarah Hancock, Dr. Simon Thornley, Prof. Karen Dwyer and Dr. Rowena Field.
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(US), Butted heads with my RN Daughter last weekend about what diabetics can eat and cant... guess who was wrong and who wasnt? Not the "professional" as you can imagine. I'll put my health (55) against her's (29) any day. "Standard of Care" is generally bullocks.
Maybe don’t take the right and wrong position with health professionals even your daughter. Try the educated and not yet educated position. You have had the benefit of concentrated health knowledge and research. RNs are required to learn the set education by the governing body to pass exams and promote that as health. It’s only those of us with a continued interest in health that can deviate from our book learned knowledge using the latest research. Keep an open mind to sharing what you know, how your choices change your health status and you will win her over with your expertise instead of alienating her. She probably is just worried and needs reassured.
I had a discussion with a hospital dietician by phone last week. He asked what meals my wife had eaten in the last week. He then proceeded to tell me off for the rubbish that I was feeding my wife. When I told him she was an inpatient and suggested he spoke to her ward cook he terminated the call! Amazing. NHS at its best 😊😊
@@24bellers20 That's funny, but also very sad. Good one on your part!
I started OMAD low carb/sugar since January this year lost 15kilos stopped BP meds BP great..can't wait for next blood test to see my sugar level as I was diagnosed pre diabetic..Hoping I have reversed insulin resistance. 🤞
The answer is so simple. No carbs not low carbs. Go carnivore, stop all seed oils, no alcohol no tobacco. You have the recipe for great long term health.
Yes, that's an excellent recipe. But it's not _"so simple"_ for a lot of people. It takes discipline. I for one, find the siren call of popcorn to be so irresistible that the 30g of carbs in the batch I pop seems totally insignificant when I'm under it's spell.
But isn't it interesting? I pop it in coconut oil, drizzle melted butter on it and heavily salt it. You and I probably agree that the oil, butter and salt are healthy but the carbs in the popcorn are unhealthy. Whereas the prevailing paradigm in the medical/nutrition space says the popcorn is harmless but the oil, butter and salt are harmful. Everything is backwards, almost like spiritual warfare.
@@KenJackson_US discipline?.... can't and won't ,put in the effort to the one body they have ." What if "is my little experiment as I seem to age backwards compared to my peers .
@@KenJackson_US it is when death is staring right at you, like it is for many people on the planet. The choice has always been simple and remember we eat to live not live to eat!
I'm starting on this diet young, haven't eaten seed oils for a year and on a low carb diet for around a month. I feel I'm at the pinnacle of health, never unfocused, I had a shoulder injury 6 months ago before the low carb diet, but somehow managed to gain even more muscle from doing less workouts !!! Hair is thick and confidence is high. Currently trying to get my family to lower carbs, this channel is a blessing. SCREW SNEED OILS AND SCREW CARBS
Same. Keep it up. I eat butter with guilt and keep doing it as it works. Trying to tell someone else this and you have 3 heads to them. Love it. You get after it
Instead of sniffing beef, devour it. Remember no carnivore in nature ever gets heart disease.
I have lost 10 kilos since being on low carb and no sugar, cannot thank my GP enough for suggesting Keto.
50 to 100 grams of carbs are not low enough to
be in ketosis. I don't know why they did not tell him.
He also said he's never seen someone in "ketoacidosis."
I think he fundamentally misunderstands the issue.
If you eat it in one sitting, it's fine. You'll be back in ketosis within the hour most of the time. Assuming it isn't garbage carbs, of course.
Yes go for zero carbs until symptoms relieved, yes he misunderstands the concept
The answer is no carbs! Low carbs just continue to fuel carb addiction. Humans do not need any carbs at all. Humans were made this way. Millions of years of adaptation.
my blood ketones are back up 6 hours after a higher carb meal like a hamburger with fries. it boils down to how fast you expend the carbs and the liver runs out of glycogen and ramps up ketone production. it’s not like its keeping score where it will decide to go into ketosis at below 50 grams intake and with the 51st gram says ‘oh now it’s not gonna happen’. It just makes no freaking sense.
It is totally possible to reduce carbs to below 50g per day…!😮
I didn't get nothing from this. I have CKD and eat OMAD and my ketones hover around 1.5 - 3.0. I reversed my type II diabetes, arthritis and high blood pressure. O.1 is not really in ketosis.
You are 100% correct and those ketones are great for you!
Yeah I don't get why they seem unknowing about ketones between 1 and 3 for people on lo carb IF. For my last bloodwork I was at a solid 2 as I was fat adapted and 12 hour fasted for the tests. If you don't have ketones after a 12 hour fast, your system is sluggish or broken to properly adjust. Never ketones = metabolic syndrome/diabetes.
Fasting is extremely beneficial
Not eating is not sustainable, by definition.
for everyone
@billrobinson198 the assumption that someone would fast forever is patently ludicrous.
@@billrobinson198 Your statement doesn't seem to either support or counter the comment you're replying to. Is there some relevance?
@@billrobinson198 "Not eating is not sustainable, by definition."
So what? You can fast periodically or occasionally. You can do 20 hours a day, you can fast 5days a month, you can fast 40days every year (e.g. in the lent).
So now there's a school of thought to undermedicate for pain as opposed to finding which drugs individuals recognise and respond to?
Fantastic panel discussions - thank you
I’ve been for bloods today asI’ve been carnivore since October. I’m busting to see A1c and lipids. In relation to what the nephrologist said, I don’t show ketones until I get below 20grams of carbs. Strict or it’s wasted time.
Bloods back. Kidney function better, liver better, lipids better, a1c slightly better. Next check will be around September.
@@24bellers20 BBB since Jan- Dropped 2lbs- When I swerved off track it did not work - Strict (sometimes sadly) is the directive.
@@24bellers20 That's good. Thanks for providing an update.
Really if you want keto food buy some meat
lots of happy vegetarian ketoers, useless advice
I worked for an S.A. Endocrinologist. With his lunch he would drink a can of diet Coke every day. And an allergist I attended, advised a total green leafy diet for my acute spring grasses and pollen allergies. Since starting carnivore, I lost several kilos which I didn't need to, with intermittent fasting. I have fatty liver. And an additional Autoimmune disease. I back-slid on the carnivore diet as dropped to 48kg I couldnt afford to lose more weight. I have an appointment with Dr Paul Mason next year. Gluten free packaged products are high in carbohydrates and sugars. Read the ingredients. There are very few Medics in South Australia who promote low carb and carnivore diet.
Cognitive dissonance, vested interest group! I freaking clapped at my PC.
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ketosis and ketoacidosis are not the same thing. Unlike ketosis, which is generally safe, ketoacidosis is a grave and life-threatening condition. Also known as diabetic ketoacidosis, it occurs in people living with Type 1 diabetes when their insulin levels become too low People who I.F. become more insulin-sensitive meaning they need less for same result. Fasting heals D2
I remitted my diabetes without fasting or drugs, just by changing to low carb and eating 3 meals a day.
I think we patients should get stuck into our doctors more than we do. I know I haven't said anything to my doctor, she's a Sri Lanken and probably vegetarian although she's well aware of the fact that I lost a huge amount of weight on keto. I'm not sure it even sunk in what keto is.
I think it's a good question about whether carb cycling is dangerous. What I also wonder is whether it is any more dangerous than just binge eating on high carb foods (whether processed or not). I suspect not if the damage occurs only when the sugars and insulin is high, even if it's not as ideal as a more "uninterrupted pure" high fat / mod protein / very low carb diet (although do we have evidence for this long term yet?). If someone does not have the complete discipline or will power to say goodbye to all the "white carbs" forever, one would hope that the occasional revisiting of higher carb eating, while possibly detrimental in some ways, would not be as detrimental as just eating high amounts of processed carbs including all the rubbish sweet things on a daily basis. But it might be preferable to aim for sticking to smaller servings of your high carb vegetables, fruits and grains (half a cup of cooked rice rather than a whole cup, or half a banana at a time) and add it to whatever the meal is with some protein and fat, but then also remember to take away some of the higher fats you have become accustomed to eating on the ketogenic type diets. I say "diets" because in reality, I imagine it may not even be a majority who eat "keto" yet maintain ketosis. I suspect a lot of us are in ketosis a lot less than we realise. And it's very easy to overeat and over-fuel the body with both fuels when you carb cycle. I often wonder if the Lean Mass Hyper Responder (Dave Feldman: Cholesterol Code) who is not truly lean of mass is really someone who is doing just this - overeating on the fats still while carb cycling. I fall into the Lean Mass Hyper Responder category based solely on my lipid numbers while my BMI may be higher than the typical LMHR. I also recently watched my cholesterol change. About 7 years ago, before I was doing any kind of diet, I was eating plenty of sweets, but tried to eat lower carb breakfasts and dinners by skipping or lowering the portions of carbs that typically accompany a meal, and I was still eating fats, although I would say I was never in ketosis at that time. I had just had a baby and was breastfeeding (overweight I'm sure - about 10kg more than I am now since going low carb) when my cholesterol total came back at around 7.5 mmol, Trigs 0.9 mmol, HDL 3.1 mmol, LDL 4 mmol; Non-HDL 4.4 mmol. That was when I was eating pretty much whatever I liked really but it may have sometimes included slightly lower carb for breakfast and dinner because I was always snacking on pastries and cakes. But I think I was eating all the stuff through the pregnancies when I could keep it down that is... In the pregnancy before that cholesterol reading I had preeclampsia, and in the pregnancy after I had gestational diabetes. Then I tried "keto". Some days stricter than others. My cholesterol was around 8 mmol or a bit over not long after I started the diet, then I reintroduced a few carbs and fiber and brought my total cholesterol back to 6.4 mmol in June 2022 with Trigs 0.6, HDL 1.90, LDL 4.2, Non-HDL 4.5 mmol. Then I watched it climb again to 8.6 mmol in Sep (no other break up, just a random non-fasting) and I'd gone back to lower carb higher fat I think), but then over Christmas to Easter, I ate more carbs again then before, including naughty ones, except for a couple of weeks in January where I pulled off the carbs to do a butter experiment for about 2 weeks (Dr Sarah Bright / Steak & Butter Girl). Check your gallbladder before trying that by the way! Anyway, in March, my TC hit 11 mmol, Trigs 0.6, HDL 2.56, LDL 8.2, Non-HDL 8.44 mmol. That was with some more carbs and still a lot of fat over that time. I then had a number of other tests done, including fasting insulin, which came back at 3 mU/L (3 - 15). My previous fasting insulin after having been gestationally diabetic but having done keto for a few months was 6 mU/L. I also did a lipid subfraction test in May 2023 and the only thing I changed between March and May was to eat a little bit of flaxseed and carob chocolate on a regular basis. I didn't want to change too much before having the subfractions done. Results were TC 11.28 mmol, Trigs 0.6, VLDL 1.48, HDL 2.83, total LDL 6.97 mmol Subfractions: LDL (1) 3.08 mmol, LDL (2) 1.99 mmol (now Small Dense LDL) LDL (3) 0.27 mmol, and the smaller LDL subfractions from size 4 to 7 none detected. Comments on the report says Type A carries no additional risk of an adverse cardiac event. My previous Lipid subfraction which I had done 4 years earlier when my total cholesterol was 8.43 mmol showed slightly more Small Dense LDL: LDL(3) 0.31, LDL (4) 0.05. and the smaller sizes were not detected then. But this recent one showed just slightly less small dense LDL. A CAC scan I had done in 2021 confirmed about 1% build up in one artery (I guess from a life time of having a sweet tooth! ) Anyway, these are the results of someone now 48 years old with previous metabolic disorder. Not really sure what it means in the scheme of low carbing, which I still believe in as a way of eating, but it might be relevant to know for the LMHR community that someone with a similar cholesterol reading and apparent low risk of cardiovascular disease according to the tool available on Dave Feldman's website, had had preeclampsia a couple of years earlier in a pregnancy, and then went on to have gestational diabetes in another pregnancy. I never had my fasting insulin checked until after I had gestational diabetes, but I must have been insulin resistant at the time I had that first cholesterol reading done. Now I am possibly in perimenopause and wondering if this way of eating is still going to be optimal. I am not free of hormonal - related symptoms and would love to know if anyone has had relief from menopause symptoms going carnivore!
Money 💰 🤑 💸 💲 that's why they don't want to tell their customers/patients.
Great question suggesting that our pain tolerance may be LOWER now that we’ve become so dependent on painkillers!😮
Need a Disney song for the vested interests: "We don't talk about Keto". . .
"We don't talk about Keto no no...😆👏
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Menopause is normal, symptoms are not.
Very interesting. Would have been good to have heard all the lectures rather than just the Q&A
I have cream in my coffee, but the trouble is, most people just put up with black coffee and be done with it. Do coffee machines work with cream?
What’s the risk of euglycemic Ketoacidosis of non diabetic people on keto diet not taking any meds?
Great metabolic human health comes from human behavior and that includes eating human food.
I too am flabbergasted people continue to ignore the true facts. 😡
Our diet, not surprisingly, affects our whole body, including ingesting toxins. Reducing toxins and unnecessary medications has only positive effects. Sadly most of our food contains toxins, which over time destroys our health then the medical profession gets onboard and prescribes more toxins to battle the effects and never the causes.
One meal, quality food, a day is all we need.
Been on Keto for nearly 3 years now, yes, quality food is more expensive, but, if your only eating 7 meals a week then it doesn’t take much to work out it’s actually a lot cheaper. Everyone I come in conversation with about diet, nearly always relies upon information from their doctor or nutritionists, including Diabetes UK are all being fed false information. Very sad indeed.
carbs are cheap and profitable- won't change because of that
How come low carb dr are completelh inaccessable to those under the bread line.
So disappointing to hear about the lack of professionalism from the endocrinologists of S.A. Getting angry at Fetke is pretty low!!
metabolic flexibility omg they act like we are pathetic and need to eat every few hours - we are built on ancestral famine 😂
Also, what are they calling "fasting"? They may
think they can drink some sugar water but not
eat and they are "fasting."
Good point!
Yep. You nailed it. Every time I do fast (just today I finished a 4-day water-only [with the exception of coffee] fast) and talk about it to "regular people around" the first question I get every time is "and what do you eat (while you are fasting)?". LOL.
There are popular fasting diets that include fruit juices and white bread. Not kidding.
32:09 so that lady is so scared of pain killers that her son wasn't allowed to take any until he broke a bone and was really suffering from pain? At least seek organic / natural / traditional medicine?
Vegetable cultist are strong in the comments section.😆
These people haven’t heard of the 2 half pounds of bacteria in your GI track which you cannot correct without vegetables garlic ginger turmeric fermented foods 😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖😖
Carnivores have no issue with this. Nuff said!