you did an excellent job, the key to getting good at anything is to stick with it, learn from your mistakes and you'll find yourself forging like a pro. I think you did an awesome job making the forge also. Keep up the good work.
There is something ridiculously calming about this video. The rhythmic hammering with this music. I had done some metal work years ago. Your videos make me want to get back into it.
Nice small project, turned out pretty good....I hope I do as well on my first attempt...Am going to try your method of refractory this weekend....looks to cool to pass up....Thanks for sharing
Man thats cool. Its all about learning by doing. I did start with gas but went onto charcoal. as it was about 90% cheaper to run the. I haven't tried forging yet with it but I have hardened a blade. look forward to your next project.
Pretty cool little project. And you learnt something along the way that is the important thing. As another poster has said, I am surprised that the vice held up through out all of the pounding. But it did. Once you get something better to pound on, think you will be on your way.
Good stuff. One of the other posts already alluded to the anvil strength on your vise; I'd only add that it appears you are losing a good bit of your hammer energy to table bounce as well. Not trying to nit pick, your video is great. I like your presentations, perhaps a video of you building your own anvil might be a potential future project.
Man, I always wanted to forge but couldn't because of space and stuff, didn't know I could have made a small one. Guess I'm gonna try it. :D Btw, nice mini axe and great vids.
I read and or watched some where that if you submerge your metal in water after its cooled too much to mold prior to reheating to forge further, prevents the metal from becoming porris and soft. Also that the sudden cooling of the metal makes steel and other metals stronger. Is this true?
Just so you know, that cast vise isn't going to hold up to that pounding and will flake off in chips. I'd recommend some rr track or an anvil. Railroad track is easy to find and cheap. Anvils are easy to find if you live up north. But starting is the most important. I had a coal forge till I used your design for a forge
I've been at hobby smithing for a few years. I'm very impressed! Keep it up. I started with a RR Rail as an anvil until I found a proper one. Makes a huge difference as you probably can figure out. Question...The burner us used for that forge. Is it the homemade one that you show in your other video? Thanks for the high quality stuff!
Rick Williamson Yep that burner is the same as the bigger blowtorch video, as well as the burner I show in the coffee can forge video. Thanks for the comment!
Me too, lol. I thought the metal would just fuse together but as it turns out, not hot enough and surfaces not clean enough for that to happen. Thanks for the comment!
All of that hammering, and there's a perfectly good vice right there! haha kidding... this is pretty cool. I'm planning to make one of these. i'd be interested to know if ithe forge is still holding up almost 5 months later? and also interested to see more projects
Thanks! Perhaps I'll mention how the forge is holding up in the next video that makes use of it, pretty soon, I'm working on another knife and it will need heat treating.
+J Lynn I did not harden this piece, I assumed the steel was not high carbon and therefore would not respond to heat treating. I let the piece heat soak and then shut the flame off letting the piece slowly cool over the course of a few hours, should be well annealed and not brittle.
Less useful? You turned a bolt into a mini-axe! Decorating your room could be an use for it. Or, you can maybe coat it with copper (electrolysis), put a hole at the bottom (to make it into a keychain) and inscribe it with obscure alphabets. The amount of work you put in that is priceless but people would buy that if you put a price tag on it.
I could spend hours or days making something like your forge and one so called pointless trinket and never use the forge again and be extremely satisfied. time, money and effort well spent. "the point" it is to do it.
Would it hurt or help the forge contain heat to make a plug for one of the ends? Or would you call it completely unnecessary? It looks like it's getting the heat into the parts, but the less time it takes to get the heat in there, the less fuel it takes to do so. Just being inquisitive?
I did make an experimental door plug for the back seen at 4:20 and it did seem to help. It's something I'm still working on to find an effective and elegant solution. If nothing else, trapping the heat in will help the entire forge get to an even temp. Helpful when heat treating thin pieces like blades.
goten6 The "cold shuts" come from allowing the metal to fold over on itself while forging. You might think the metal would consolidate like modeling clay would, but the metal is not clean enough and hot enough for that to happen, unless you brought the metal up to forge welding temp and kept the metal clean with a flux.
Christian Wessely The lowest melting point component is the sodium silicate binder which, is not sodium silicate after fully cured. It decomposes into silicon dioxide, melting point of about 1600 degrees C or 2900 degrees F. The perlite will melt but it is supposed to, it leaves voids like a sponge in the aluminum oxide lining.
Thank you! For a while I thought I would do a wood handle, then I thought I would cast a brass handle for it. But it had already been so long I needed to finish it somehow so I could move on.
Benjamin Tosto Have not tried that, torching it seems to be the easiest way and I have not felt the need to try other methods. If the shape was set by a form or mold that was plastic than co2 would be a good option.
Chuck Sparks Nope, the limiting factor is an anvil to forge on. That vice was barely massive enough to hammer that little thing on, anything larger would need a real anvil.
Awesome. I love it. Enjoy those imperfections, that's the reason to do something yourself instead of buy it at Walmart care of a factory in China. Think of it like this - you just made, by hand, an axe any self respecting Hobbit would love to own. Is that not reward enough?
clkindred Hell, thank YOU. I love this idea so much I'm making plans to build a version of this in my brother's shop (our family's defacto "family shop"). I had considered using HHO so it'd be free, but after researching more realize that isn't going to work - too hot. So I think I'll build a small one and use propane/butane mix. And I want to build a standing charcoal one, too, just to make aluminum ingots for casting XD
They're called tomahawks, and they're mbigger than the axe he made... Also they hare made of lighter materials like carbon fiber and things like that. (Not sure about what metal it's made of...)
zanesmith666 Could be, I also noticed due to the open back, you can see straight out the other end, if looking straight through it, it looks like there is no heat at all, no orange glow, no flame hardly.
clkindred If you can get you hands on a section of a railroad track, that is a good starting anvil. You can probably find some at a scrap metal recyclers.
I like where you said that making it was the point of this trinket. Some times its the journey, not the destination. Great video Thanks for uploading.
Same. The philosophical blacksmith.
you did an excellent job, the key to getting good at anything is to stick with it, learn from your mistakes and you'll find yourself forging like a pro.
I think you did an awesome job making the forge also. Keep up the good work.
Matt Borden Thank you!
A man and his garage! Lovely. Doesn't mattter what you make just go spend time in the garage. It's like going inside your own mind for a while
the imperfections in the ax is what makes it so cool. Great job
Randy Wells Thanks!
There is something ridiculously calming about this video. The rhythmic hammering with this music. I had done some metal work years ago. Your videos make me want to get back into it.
drunkndruid My neighbors don't seem to object either.
Its amazing how beautiful something like this is and that music sets the perfect tone!
Thank you!
An angel and 3-4 specialized hammers and you are in business…very enjoyable vid!
sour candy and hot steel? truly a man after my own heart. I've never had sour cherries before, but they look delicious
As the music has started, I hit the like button. Expecting a good time watching this.
Way cool! I can see scorp chisels and spoon chisels made, as well as draw knives too.
the430movie Thanks!
So cool. Amazing. If you can make that, I cannot imagine what you could do for the world of small sculptures. So cool.
That is very nice work. I could only dream of forging something that good.
I love the music, but some how the sound of the hammering was much more wonderful to listen to....
Congratulations.....you have the rear ability to make even your mistakes look classy👍
By the end of the video I was uncontrollably laughing. Man, that was funny
Nice small project, turned out pretty good....I hope I do as well on my first attempt...Am going to try your method of refractory this weekend....looks to cool to pass up....Thanks for sharing
Me Craig Thanks and good luck!
The axe turned out very nice.
Anvise?
Anvil vise.. Use everything you can, tools are less important. The most important is creativity in the process. Good work bro..
The music was awesome too. love the ax. be cool to have a big one like it.
jlr163380 Thanks!
I cant stop watching your forging videos there so cool thats a sub man keep up the good work
Great job. Very impressed.
Glad you liked it!
Man thats cool. Its all about learning by doing. I did start with gas but went onto charcoal. as it was about 90% cheaper to run the. I haven't tried forging yet with it but I have hardened a blade.
look forward to your next project.
Coal seems to be a sure fire way to get forging heat, pun intended.
nice work was cool to watch can't wait to get started my self I'm in the middle of making the gas forge on your other video thanks for uploading
So awesome! I wanna learn to forge like this!
Thank you, that was great. Maybe I'll get off my butt and create something as nice as this some day. Thanks again
Many thanks!
That music, them feelz!
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen.
Good job, lad.
MaxDamage14 Oh, thank you!
It's plain and simple and the editing is great. It had my attention 100% of the time.
Keep up the good work.
Making it was the point of this trinket. Right on!
Pretty cool little project. And you learnt something along the way that is the important thing. As another poster has said, I am surprised that the vice held up through out all of the pounding. But it did. Once you get something better to pound on, think you will be on your way.
Now Ken can chop that firewood for Barbie.
Awesome job it was worth it
This is pretty sweet considering it was just a useless bolt beforehand.
Thanks!
I know nothing about forging, but for your first attempt, the mini-axe looks pretty awesome, even just as a trinket. :) Awesome vid.
Thanks!
Good stuff. One of the other posts already alluded to the anvil strength on your vise; I'd only add that it appears you are losing a good bit of your hammer energy to table bounce as well. Not trying to nit pick, your video is great. I like your presentations, perhaps a video of you building your own anvil might be a potential future project.
very cool, awesome job. too cool indeed.
Thank you! Glad you watched!
Cool! be careful with that; you drop that axe thing at an ancient dig site you're going to seriously mess-up some archaeologists! ;-)
+Llona Juice I "lost" some silverware over the side of a cruise ship when I was a kid, and thought the exact same thing.
Man, I always wanted to forge but couldn't because of space and stuff, didn't know I could have made a small one. Guess I'm gonna try it. :D
Btw, nice mini axe and great vids.
LOL!!!!!!!!! I love the music.
I love your forges very cool
Thanks!
I read and or watched some where that if you submerge your metal in water after its cooled too much to mold prior to reheating to forge further, prevents the metal from becoming porris and soft. Also that the sudden cooling of the metal makes steel and other metals stronger. Is this true?
The music makes it feel like Minecraft...I love it! Awesome job dude! Thumbs up
DabHeart Minecraft huh? Never played it, but have watched videos of others play, I can see how this could feel like that, "pick pick pick"
This was very soothing to watch. It would be cool to see you make a sword :)
+Thomas Kirwan Thanks! A sword would be awesome!
Love it. You made a subscriber out of me.
Just so you know, that cast vise isn't going to hold up to that pounding and will flake off in chips. I'd recommend some rr track or an anvil. Railroad track is easy to find and cheap. Anvils are easy to find if you live up north. But starting is the most important. I had a coal forge till I used your design for a forge
I'd like to find a real anvil, all the ones I have seen locally are cast iron imports.
Mmmm sour cherries. The best come from the Jelly Belly company. Try a good candy seller.
Can you make me a broad sword? A bronze haft would be a nice touch, but not necessary.
Thoroughly enjoyed the video, keep 'em coming. Just wondering how your neighbors feel about your new hobby
They have not complained yet. I'm much less annoying than some other neighbors on our street :-D
Bravo, bravo!
Nick Loves Thank you!
I've been at hobby smithing for a few years. I'm very impressed! Keep it up.
I started with a RR Rail as an anvil until I found a proper one. Makes a huge difference as you probably can figure out.
Question...The burner us used for that forge. Is it the homemade one that you show in your other video?
Thanks for the high quality stuff!
Rick Williamson Yep that burner is the same as the bigger blowtorch video, as well as the burner I show in the coffee can forge video. Thanks for the comment!
fantastic job, man, like your vids :D cold shuts... I learned something there....
Me too, lol. I thought the metal would just fuse together but as it turns out, not hot enough and surfaces not clean enough for that to happen. Thanks for the comment!
All of that hammering, and there's a perfectly good vice right there! haha
kidding... this is pretty cool. I'm planning to make one of these. i'd be interested to know if ithe forge is still holding up almost 5 months later? and also interested to see more projects
Thanks! Perhaps I'll mention how the forge is holding up in the next video that makes use of it, pretty soon, I'm working on another knife and it will need heat treating.
Baby's First Axe Murder! =)
Looks great, man - this is pretty epic. =D
Thank you!
you forgot one thing... temper it or it will eventually break ,but great work !
+J Lynn I did not harden this piece, I assumed the steel was not high carbon and therefore would not respond to heat treating. I let the piece heat soak and then shut the flame off letting the piece slowly cool over the course of a few hours, should be well annealed and not brittle.
Less useful? You turned a bolt into a mini-axe! Decorating your room could be an use for it. Or, you can maybe coat it with copper (electrolysis), put a hole at the bottom (to make it into a keychain) and inscribe it with obscure alphabets. The amount of work you put in that is priceless but people would buy that if you put a price tag on it.
I could spend hours or days making something like your forge and one so called pointless trinket and never use the forge again and be extremely satisfied. time, money and effort well spent. "the point" it is to do it.
agree. the point is learning :)
Would it hurt or help the forge contain heat to make a plug for one of the ends? Or would you call it completely unnecessary? It looks like it's getting the heat into the parts, but the less time it takes to get the heat in there, the less fuel it takes to do so. Just being inquisitive?
I did make an experimental door plug for the back seen at 4:20 and it did seem to help. It's something I'm still working on to find an effective and elegant solution. If nothing else, trapping the heat in will help the entire forge get to an even temp. Helpful when heat treating thin pieces like blades.
I was wondering, what is the length and diameter of the bolt?
*Nice Axe Haha. Crazy.*
very nice! may I can ask you how to avoid the metal imperfection/bended/scratches you had at the end ? is because you let it cooling too slowly ?
goten6 The "cold shuts" come from allowing the metal to fold over on itself while forging. You might think the metal would consolidate like modeling clay would, but the metal is not clean enough and hot enough for that to happen, unless you brought the metal up to forge welding temp and kept the metal clean with a flux.
I wonder what temperature you could possibly reach in this forge ... I would guess the limit is somewhere around 600 - 650 degrees ...?
Christian Wessely The lowest melting point component is the sodium silicate binder which, is not sodium silicate after fully cured. It decomposes into silicon dioxide, melting point of about 1600 degrees C or 2900 degrees F. The perlite will melt but it is supposed to, it leaves voids like a sponge in the aluminum oxide lining.
Nice job you should try putting a leather handle
Thank you! For a while I thought I would do a wood handle, then I thought I would cast a brass handle for it. But it had already been so long I needed to finish it somehow so I could move on.
I wonder if you could insta-fix your crucibles/forge mix with CO2 instead of waiting around for them to dry. Have you tried it?
Benjamin Tosto Have not tried that, torching it seems to be the easiest way and I have not felt the need to try other methods. If the shape was set by a form or mold that was plastic than co2 would be a good option.
amazing! GJ, man keep it up
nice music
Genial Maestro perfect.
Vlad Tepes Thank you!
Are the fragments flying off some kind of flux? If so, what are you using?
It's scale forming due to the metal oxidizing in the air.
Ouch, so you're actually losing a good deal of mass.
Kind of, the metal is only a portion of the mass in the scale, the rest is oxygen from the air, so some of the mass actually forms out of thin air.
Well, yeah, that much was clear. One last question: Why is your picture a model of methanol?
I mess around with alcohol stoves, or at least I used to.
have you given it any thoughts about making larger sized axes and or hatchets...and also have you done other projects your not showing us on here?¿?
Chuck Sparks Nope, the limiting factor is an anvil to forge on. That vice was barely massive enough to hammer that little thing on, anything larger would need a real anvil.
Use a rubber mallet, great idea ;)
I never used a rubber mallet...?
clkindred its a joke
Hey, you're going to bust that vise doing that. Get a track and that will be better.
Really nice work! What song in particular is this?
QuoykerMC Music: Pachabelly - youtube music library
good job :)
What happen to the bottom of the can, did the heat destroyed it or was that taken out on purpose?
flacousa62 There was no bottom to speak of, it was a flimsy plastic part in the bottom and was removed in order to prepare making the forge.
Nice!
Thank you!
Sweetness
How high tempertue can it take?
Nice.
WarChief GarrKhan Thank you!
Estupendo.
So cool, how much does it cost to build the coffee can one?
Shan Liu I think I put 40 dollars into it with the burner and everything.
Nice
Nice
Nice thumbnail.
How is the refractory holding up?
Very good so far.
How hot does the forge get?
More omg I llve these
Thanks!
Awesome. I love it. Enjoy those imperfections, that's the reason to do something yourself instead of buy it at Walmart care of a factory in China.
Think of it like this - you just made, by hand, an axe any self respecting Hobbit would love to own. Is that not reward enough?
Thank you!
clkindred Hell, thank YOU. I love this idea so much I'm making plans to build a version of this in my brother's shop (our family's defacto "family shop"). I had considered using HHO so it'd be free, but after researching more realize that isn't going to work - too hot. So I think I'll build a small one and use propane/butane mix. And I want to build a standing charcoal one, too, just to make aluminum ingots for casting XD
Casting ingots is fun, especially brass, I like to pretend it's gold :-p
做这个东西主要是耗费的工程是巨大的
cool bud!
Thank you!
clkindred
did you get my question in PM bud?
How much did the forge cost
konrad trojakowski Hard to say because I made it, I think I put the total cost around 70 dollars.
Ok Thanks, great work man
you gonna sell the axe to a leprachaum beserker ?
TheWomblemaster If only I could find him.
It could be such a thing as a small throwing axe!
They're called tomahawks, and they're mbigger than the axe he made... Also they hare made of lighter materials like carbon fiber and things like that. (Not sure about what metal it's made of...)
hey look a cod fanboy
TheLucasLalo they're made of high carbon steel and maybe a carbon fiber handle. Typically, the lightest ones will not have a full tang.
RockerChikRules Me? naw I just know what a tomahawk is... honestly I hate CoD and its fanbase of autist 8yr olds.
No the original comment, bro
time for a real anvil man!
+Willy Wonka Tell me about it! That vice on the flimsy work bench sucked!
If only they didn't cost a small fortune!
i don't know if it's just me, but it looks as though your forges aren't as hot as other ones i've seen online
zanesmith666 Could be, I also noticed due to the open back, you can see straight out the other end, if looking straight through it, it looks like there is no heat at all, no orange glow, no flame hardly.
PEPSI MAX !!!
*You need a bigger Hammer Bro.* _Also new videos._
what is that score? music.
It's called "Pachabelly" from the youtube music library.
Thanks
It's a hatchet..
it's too small, it would be good for a keychain.
It was going to be a bottle opener but I decided to leave it like it is, as a neat little trinket.
u need an anvil that's good for beginner
A real anvil would be awesome, that vice sucks.
clkindred
If you can get you hands on a section of a railroad track, that is a good starting anvil. You can probably find some at a scrap metal recyclers.
clkindred I got my little 60 lb anvil for $30 at a scrap recycling place while looking for railroad track. Ask around and you might find something! :D
LieutenantSmasher PS. If you find one make sure its steel and not cast iron.
LieutenantSmasher
Huh, I never thought of finding one at a scrap place, lucky you rescued that one from being melted down!
You stole my Pepsi.......
the430movie It's all gone now, sorry.
clkindred ;)
gg
you should cut down a tree with that