"Groan, Squeak & Screech" NYS&W FX Matt Brewery Utica NY

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  • Опубликовано: 25 май 2023
  • This video features a look at New York, Susquehanna & Western's FX Matt Brewery switching job in Utica NY on the chilly morning (47 degrees) of May 26, 2023 as GP40 No. 3040 spots one car amid a cacophony of sounds.

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  • @johnpatterson4272
    @johnpatterson4272 Год назад +347

    Trains and a brewery, a marriage made in heaven. When you know the train conductor by his first name, that is golden. This is what makes America Great. Thank you Rambler.

    • @TheClockwise770
      @TheClockwise770 Год назад +15

      Wonder if that brew is as good as that engine manoeuvring

    • @johnpatterson4272
      @johnpatterson4272 Год назад +7

      @@TheClockwise770 You know it baby!

    • @ur10dogs
      @ur10dogs Год назад +8

      I was at that brewery as a kid in Utica, now in roseville,CA.

    • @ThisIS_Insane
      @ThisIS_Insane Год назад +6

      That was the switchman, not a conductor.

    • @gregorybentley5707
      @gregorybentley5707 Год назад +8

      ​@@ThisIS_Insane no sir the conductor is the switchman, this is a conductor.

  • @charlesbaran1106
    @charlesbaran1106 Год назад +266

    Nice to see an experienced crew of a small railroad at a small brewery, performing a task that is generations old, but that the big railroads can't be bothered with. Good video!

  • @TaylorMMontgomery
    @TaylorMMontgomery 11 месяцев назад +74

    this is so great to see a company using rail transport for their commodities!

  • @allenra530
    @allenra530 Год назад +310

    A lot of that screeching and squealing on a tight curve is caused by the fact that the wheelset is one solid unit. So, in a curve the outside wheel is traveling further than the inside one and it has to skid on the rail a little bit to stay with the inside wheel.

    • @anubratachakraborty1370
      @anubratachakraborty1370 Год назад +40

      Well, that's only one reason. But the main issue was the track curve was too acute for such a long wheelbase carriage. Generally in Broadgauge tracks, track curves are way too large so that the wheels don't screem.

    • @MrThatnativeguy
      @MrThatnativeguy Год назад +26

      Hence why automobiles use differentials

    • @FS2K4Pilot
      @FS2K4Pilot Год назад +47

      I don’t think that’s true. The wheel tread has a taper that allows the outside wheel to ride up a bit, effectively increasing the circumference of the outer wheel and decreasing the circumference of the inner wheel.

    • @QuazarCG_Studio
      @QuazarCG_Studio Год назад +38

      Yeah, the differential is from the wheel taper, pretty sure it's the flange of of the wheel doing unpleasant things.

    • @sterlingodeaghaidh5086
      @sterlingodeaghaidh5086 Год назад +24

      The wheels of a railed vehicle are tapered to form a double sided cone (one taper per wheel), this allows the wheel to "technically" run at the speeds needed to make curves with monoblock wheels. The reason for the screeching is rather the flange, on tight curves the flanges are pushed against the side of the rail which causes the screeching and other noises. I don't know about rail cars but locomotives actually have a lubricant that is applied to the flanges for this reason.

  • @bennetts-revenge_2
    @bennetts-revenge_2 Год назад +76

    I love seeing the train running in the middle of the road. Thank you for showing the closeup of him switching the rails. Always wondered how they did that. It amazes me how that the engine and car fit inside the brewery like that

  • @Renard380
    @Renard380 Год назад +230

    I've been driving trains in Europe for ten years now so i'm pretty much used to it by now, but that horn sure is a thing of beauty! Not to mention the street running and the direct service to a local industry :)

    • @Belleville197
      @Belleville197 Год назад +23

      North American railroading has so much more visual and audial beauty when compared to other railroad systems in the world... right down to the literal bells and whistles.
      For all of America's faults, railroading was definitely something they got right, aside from not utilizing MORE of it... the auto industries are to blame for that.
      And you can thank Canadian inventor Robert Swanson for that beautiful horn.

    • @robertland3190
      @robertland3190 Год назад +1

      Now I’m gonna lookup trains in Europe….lol

    • @torquetrain8963
      @torquetrain8963 Год назад +8

      ​@@Belleville197 freight yes, but Europe and Asia , passenger rail is much better than here. I wish we weren't car centric and had better walkable cities .

    • @Belleville197
      @Belleville197 Год назад +7

      @@torquetrain8963 totally agree... North America used to have excellent and frequent passenger service... and lots of it too... a vast network of lines... all gone in favor of cars.

    • @kabeiganteng
      @kabeiganteng Год назад

      @@Belleville197 correct

  • @Crusader1815
    @Crusader1815 Год назад +80

    I measured the radius on Google Earth, and it's about 160 feet, which is really tight. If you wanted to see what a 22" HO radius (which is pretty common for mainlines on ordinary layouts) would look like in the real world, this is it.

  • @DougCeleste
    @DougCeleste Год назад +38

    Just amazing how close that engine and train car come to the building walls inside and out. Thanks for sharing!

    • @royreynolds108
      @royreynolds108 Год назад +4

      This is classic "close clearance" where there is less than 8.5 feet from the center line of the track to both sides for obstructions. The 8.5 feet dimension would need to be increased because of the curve. This location would have had to get an exemption for the close clearance requirements.

    • @DougCeleste
      @DougCeleste Год назад

      @@royreynolds108 Thanks for the interesting reply.

    • @litz13
      @litz13 Год назад +3

      I would also bet that GP40 is darned near the max size locomotive that could get in that building.
      I'd bet the original design (and usage) was for SW series locos or GP7/9 sized frames.

    • @DougCeleste
      @DougCeleste Год назад +1

      @@litz13 Thanks for sharing your interesting notes.

  • @douglasalan5783
    @douglasalan5783 Год назад +41

    Great video! Last mile industrial ops are fascinating. And a bonus: friendly crew. Nice.

  • @armandoperez7967
    @armandoperez7967 Год назад +101

    It is awesome to see active street trackage and an active switch in the street! Short lines and regionals take way better care of customers such as these. On a class one this beautiful stretch of track would’ve been abandoned at best maybe even removed!

  • @thirzapeevey2395
    @thirzapeevey2395 Год назад +25

    I used to work in a warehouse just like that. It too, was part of a brewery, abandoned by the time I worked there. The warehouse was wedge shaped with rails in the floor in an equally tight curve. Ours didn't have a platform, however. It was being used as a shipping hub for a small franchise package delivery warehouse. That job ended one bright, winter day when a heavy, wet snow brought down the roof. The brewery was later sold, restored, and is back in service.

  • @pacificelectric1955
    @pacificelectric1955 11 месяцев назад +18

    Greetings from France. Very interesting video, especially the technical aspects like the doors hidden in the street surface to access the switch mechanism. We had such sidings in the past accessing plants and industrial sites, but now most have vanished, with just remnants that are difficult to locate. Good to see that such great rail stuff still exists in your country!

  • @HavelockYard
    @HavelockYard Год назад +21

    Gotta be the coolest spot to set of a car caught on tape

  • @anquljolsiber
    @anquljolsiber 11 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you for taking us along for the ride…it’s a great gift for people like myself who can’t travel to different destinations

  • @Roger-zo1eb
    @Roger-zo1eb Год назад +4

    Thanks for posting this video. This is the type of trains video I enjoy the most.

  • @flyonwall360
    @flyonwall360 Год назад +9

    It's good to see videos like this. I grew up in the Utica area and have fond memories of this location. Thanks for posting.

  • @andrewpalm2103
    @andrewpalm2103 Год назад +38

    So glad you caught this! Until the late 50's the South Shore had a passing siding on 11th Street in front of the Michigan City Station. Both ends had a single point switch, which I remember looking at as a kid. The siding was removed, but after decades as a single track the line will soon be double tracked. Cheers from Wisconsin!

    • @realpillboxer
      @realpillboxer Год назад +6

      As of summer of 2022, they are removing the street-grade trackage through town, sadly. I only learned about the operation *after* it was announced it would be removed! Missed a unique opportunity but much thanks to all the people like Rambler here that capture these moments for everyone to witness in the future.

    • @flickrscreen
      @flickrscreen Год назад +1

      @@realpillboxer that's a terrible shame.

  • @CNP-rn3gd
    @CNP-rn3gd 11 месяцев назад +5

    My daughter graduated from Syracuse; I was lucky to spend time in the area. I absolutely love it! thank you for the videos

  • @nuk3l3arhax62
    @nuk3l3arhax62 Год назад +1

    Didn't expect this to be so wholesome

  • @galaxieman1964
    @galaxieman1964 Год назад +8

    FX is probably my favorite switching job to watch. Thanks!! U.C. for me!!

  • @cat441
    @cat441 Год назад +14

    very cool video, that switch moves so smoothly pretty neat. Thanks for sharing

    • @trespire
      @trespire Год назад

      Looks like well engineered infrastructure, will probably last 100 years of service.

  • @poekhali1961
    @poekhali1961 Год назад +4

    Thanks for bringing back some childhood memories. Haven’t lived there for a long time but it will always be home.

    • @ur10dogs
      @ur10dogs Год назад +2

      Toured Utica club when I was a kid , in Roseville ,ca. Now

  • @rfalcone
    @rfalcone Год назад +1

    What a great modeling idea.

  • @LarryButler-kp3se
    @LarryButler-kp3se Год назад +4

    Tonight I'll dream about a few Schultz and Dooley UC commercials from Channel 3 WSYR, the only channel we got in Moravia on my dad's 75' high double conical VHF antenna.
    The German street band will go by the tavern's window, but Dooley's crush on the girly mug still has him fascinated. No beer company would DARE giving us kids so much pleasure, today. Thank you Utica Club for being part of this 77-year-old's childhood memories!

  • @kalebjohnson6090
    @kalebjohnson6090 Год назад +6

    That K5 sounded great. Especially when you were following the train. Beautiful echos. Love how the conductor said love you to his daughter.

  • @annettelaurence5716
    @annettelaurence5716 Год назад +14

    Is Ethan now a Hollywood mega star having appeared in one of you videos? I think he is!! Thank you for taking the time to make this film 🙃

  • @ScottRails
    @ScottRails Год назад +14

    That was amazing. It's only when you see these things on a street that you really appreciate their size and power.

  • @jamesconnor4302
    @jamesconnor4302 Год назад +14

    That is awesome, very good catches here! GP40 sounding absolutely gorgeous!

  • @Igel_und_Maulwurf
    @Igel_und_Maulwurf 10 месяцев назад +4

    Wow, its great to see this...greetings from Germany...I love the American Railway

  • @gearheaddesignz
    @gearheaddesignz Год назад +5

    I subscribed just because of this video! Love seeing Railroads like this still being used.

  • @waltereturner
    @waltereturner Год назад +6

    This was an awesome video that brought back a ton of memories. Thanks for sharing this!

  • @pantera6672
    @pantera6672 Год назад +5

    Best one yet . Mister. that's Kool how our little town still survives. PEACE

  • @wallyman292
    @wallyman292 Год назад +3

    Too cool! Takes me back to simpler times. . . ;)

  • @RC944jim
    @RC944jim Год назад +5

    👏🏻👏🏻Your videos never get old, thank you! 😉

  • @davidimhoff2118
    @davidimhoff2118 Год назад +4

    Fascinating track switch. I love the connection with the guy on the train. Pretty cool video

  • @Boxelder1
    @Boxelder1 Год назад +2

    one of the best train vids out there!

  • @georgetarabini6552
    @georgetarabini6552 Год назад +1

    Great video, thanks for sharing

  • @castercamber
    @castercamber Год назад +1

    Wow! This takes you back to the old days.

  • @davidhill7914
    @davidhill7914 Год назад +3

    Looking in from N. Yorkshire, England. Wonderful videos.

  • @lightcapmath2777
    @lightcapmath2777 Год назад +1

    Pure lovely ..many thanks DVD:)

  • @user-rm7ye8ct6p
    @user-rm7ye8ct6p 6 месяцев назад +1

    MOST EXCELLENT VIDEO 😮💯👍👍👍

  • @swampfuel20
    @swampfuel20 Год назад +2

    Well Done!
    I’m from Cooperstown NY. Not far from Utica.
    Love to see the old streets. Such fun.
    Cheers!

  • @ryanstaab9310
    @ryanstaab9310 Год назад +2

    Relly cool video!!! Loved it!!!

  • @datalasse
    @datalasse Год назад +4

    Great video! Thanks for sharing.

  • @bobmeginnes324
    @bobmeginnes324 11 месяцев назад +2

    Truly enjoyed this video. Never heard of an in-ground switch before, nor have I heard of that brewery before, so my ongoing education is all the richer. Thanks for making it.

  • @t.j.carroll8512
    @t.j.carroll8512 Год назад +8

    Thanks for sharing some unique switching at the brewery. Do see street running in Kentucky but the brewery work is special. 👍

  • @monolight1327
    @monolight1327 10 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent video, thank you so much! I love street running, and I was not familiar with Utica, New York until your video. Excellent references for scenicking on my own layout. Thanks!

  • @DK-nv9zu
    @DK-nv9zu Год назад +3

    I saw a photo of a locomotive hugging that curve a while back and wondered what it was. There was no info on the photo. Thanks for filming. So cool to see its actually from modern times.

  • @davida.taylorcmtchds871
    @davida.taylorcmtchds871 Год назад +2

    Thanks for all your great videos. Left Little Falls about 5 years ago after living there my whole life and do miss the rail action.

  • @NoewerrATall
    @NoewerrATall Год назад +10

    3040! Good to see that locomotive back. Street running and switching. Twice as good!

    • @FS2K4Pilot
      @FS2K4Pilot Год назад +4

      I have that very engine from Atlas in HO scale.

  • @CassidysWorkshop
    @CassidysWorkshop Год назад +2

    Now that's cool! Thanks for sharing.

  • @roberttapken1139
    @roberttapken1139 Год назад +8

    To quote an old 1970 commercial, " You just can't argue over Utica Club, cause they put so much love in to it" I lived in Utica for a very brief time in 1970. I thought the brewery's name was West End Brewing Co, I could be wrong. PS Is the Obelston still there on Genesee St?

  • @shawncosmos5431
    @shawncosmos5431 4 месяца назад +2

    I miss all these sounds…Having grown up right next to a busy track it became a reassuring sound each time one came through. Night or day..

  • @tallmike6598
    @tallmike6598 Год назад +2

    I bet that switch is a joy in the winter.

  • @bradleyjanes2949
    @bradleyjanes2949 Год назад +2

    Great video ,a historical railroad video, thank you👍

  • @tfs4499
    @tfs4499 3 месяца назад

    Switching at a brewery: doesn't much cooler than that! THANKS!

  • @silverharvester8481
    @silverharvester8481 Месяц назад +1

    I love this! I love trains. I remember as a kid The Erie Lackawanna RS-3 dropping box cars at Fay St. warehouse

    • @brendamuhammad6015
      @brendamuhammad6015 Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for sharing this video with me. I remember the trains coming to the warehouse across from us on Fay St. in Utica when we were kids. I also lived on Schuyler St as a young adult and the train used to ride down the middle of the street. I forgot about how that used to sound until this video brought everything back.

  • @TheJonathanc82
    @TheJonathanc82 10 месяцев назад +4

    Love this! I’m not too far from Utica and I would love to come see this operation someday.

  • @envirovore
    @envirovore 10 месяцев назад +1

    Lived a block away from this line for a long time at one point, neat to see this randomly pop up in my feed.
    Make some good drinks there.

  • @thedevilneveraskstwice7027
    @thedevilneveraskstwice7027 9 месяцев назад +1

    I am always happy when I see a railroad connection into any sort of industry still functioning.

  • @FlippersPool
    @FlippersPool Год назад +2

    This is so cool! I am so glad I found your channel. I live near here and always hope to catch a train when I am on this street.

  • @ExploringAmerica
    @ExploringAmerica Год назад +4

    Now that was cool!

  • @YouWontFindMeSoStopSearching
    @YouWontFindMeSoStopSearching Год назад +2

    Awesome Catch!

  • @mikesacksteder2865
    @mikesacksteder2865 Год назад +3

    Great video. I love small time operations

  • @OregonCrow
    @OregonCrow Год назад +3

    That is one heck of a tight fit! Thanks for the video, this was very exciting!

  • @ethanthompson681
    @ethanthompson681 Год назад

    This should have its own you tube channel with daily updates

  • @jeffcibulka4186
    @jeffcibulka4186 Год назад +1

    Really Cool. Thanks

  • @dream.machine
    @dream.machine 10 месяцев назад +4

    That was amazing! I actually loved the wheel sounds 😊
    That is so cool that you see a locomotive on a trolley looking track like this.

  • @alexledv8
    @alexledv8 Год назад +2

    what a marvel of engineering, for me this place is magical, I would live happily living and working in this place, thanks for showing these details congratulations for the video

  • @twrldr1
    @twrldr1 Год назад +4

    Love the NYS&W. I see them in and around Binghamton, especially the Frito Lay plant bringing in corn oil, and vegetables to make all our snacks!

  • @Fronzel.Neekburm
    @Fronzel.Neekburm 10 месяцев назад +4

    This is one of the coolest unique railfanning videos I've seen on RUclips for a while. Hope you get high views for it. Just sub to your channel.

  • @gp3829
    @gp3829 Год назад +6

    Wow, great stuff. I see the Elevated Gate Tower down the street - just like the Atlas HO model. Brilliant that all these things still exist.

    • @railroadingrambler218
      @railroadingrambler218  Год назад

      Here's a closer look at the tower: ruclips.net/video/uryj_WK702E/видео.html

  • @orangefaygo1
    @orangefaygo1 10 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic video & so cool seeing a historic brewery.

  • @metalstorm242
    @metalstorm242 Год назад +6

    Awesome video. I believe Model Railroader magazine made a building just like this for one of their layouts

  • @blainenodes8182
    @blainenodes8182 Год назад

    We had 2 breweries in St Paul as a kid in 1950, Schmidt's and Hamm's this switching I saw 4 20.yrs...all important " sidings" every other block,10 mph tracks...great post ❗

  • @timothybeyer4618
    @timothybeyer4618 Год назад +3

    Outstanding! I love the old watchman tower in the background. It's good to see one still extant.

  • @wildtraingamer3146
    @wildtraingamer3146 Год назад +2

    Man those are sure sharp turns

  • @raydunakin
    @raydunakin Год назад +10

    Very cool! I've always wondered how in-street switches worked. The derailer is neat too.

    • @ernestpassaro9663
      @ernestpassaro9663 11 месяцев назад +1

      We used to take a pry bar on those street switches

    • @railroadingrambler218
      @railroadingrambler218  9 месяцев назад

      I’ve seen a pry bar used here on occasion as well.

  • @davecrupel2817
    @davecrupel2817 4 месяца назад +1

    Definitely gotta visit Utica again. Passed by once on 95. Stopped briefly to grab a bite to eat. Thought those tracks were abandoned.
    Absolutely gonna visit again! Cheers from MA!

  • @mickd1239
    @mickd1239 Год назад +2

    Neighbourhoods need trains 😊 Fantastic film !!

  • @EdmontonRails
    @EdmontonRails Год назад +2

    Thank you for taking the time to document this interesting operation, great video!

  • @kenkramer6529
    @kenkramer6529 Год назад +3

    Very nice work!

  • @kitchener2200
    @kitchener2200 Год назад +5

    Excellent video. Great action!

  • @Timmo737
    @Timmo737 Год назад +2

    Great video. Thanks for filming and sharing. Fantastic to see that small branch line activity 👍

  • @tcbtcb
    @tcbtcb 4 месяца назад +1

    I lived 1 street away for 2 years and I don’t think I ever seen the train during the day. Thanks for posting.

  • @SteveH-TN
    @SteveH-TN 10 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic video of local brewery switching combined with street running. 70 years ago my grandparents lived two houses from Steam street running which included switching for Coal storage, meat packing, industrial industries in Chicago.

  • @SirLANsalot
    @SirLANsalot Год назад +4

    one thing to also note, that is the tightest curve in the US, and has significant restrictions in terms of locomotive and size. Aka it can only be switched by a GP38 or smaller locomotive due to such a tight curve. In terms of Model Railroading curves, that curve is equivalent to a 19" radius curve (15dg) in N scale (Atlas track). To give you the idea that in Model Railroading, all curves used are tighter then IRL counterparts but that is entirely because of the compression done in model railroading.

  • @johnfahey7215
    @johnfahey7215 2 месяца назад

    We were in Utica Monday, 08 April. I made sure we saw the iconic street track!

  • @kwf484
    @kwf484 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for posting this

  • @Sven_Okas1967
    @Sven_Okas1967 Год назад +1

    Nice catch. I like switching. This sound is music in my ears. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven

  • @ajdown
    @ajdown Год назад +2

    I love the way that they have the flashing light on the inside of the building, just in case you couldn't hear the train...

  • @PhilBender612
    @PhilBender612 Год назад +2

    What a cool vid, nice GP-40. What a tight curve that is to, wow.

  • @cmdrflake
    @cmdrflake Год назад +2

    Greetings from Tonawanda, NY! Cool as always! ❤️👍🏻I dig the EL GP7 pic.

  • @charliechristie2949
    @charliechristie2949 9 месяцев назад +2

    I just "found" you. Rambler. I am a70 year young retired car guy who LOVES trains. Thank you for the crystal clear video.....I WILL be back !!!

  • @shotime95
    @shotime95 9 месяцев назад +1

    lol cramming outros in between train horn sounds has gotta be the most train enthusiast thing ever. I'm no train person but what an interesting video.

  • @BigMeechEJ25
    @BigMeechEJ25 Год назад +2

    Great video highlighting this, I love street running!

  • @christopherpuylara6355
    @christopherpuylara6355 Год назад +2

    As a kid I got to go to the old Utica Club Brewery with my parents. I think back then (60s),they had a street car that you could ride. I remember taking the tour, and then having root beer at the end. And my parents drank UC.

  • @POLO-PLAYA
    @POLO-PLAYA Год назад +1

    Awesome video! 👌

  • @Boxelder1
    @Boxelder1 Год назад +1

    I've never seen a track in the middle of the street. super cool!\

  • @matthewadams9149
    @matthewadams9149 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool to see