"Groan, Squeak & Screech" NYS&W FX Matt Brewery Utica NY
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2023
- This video features a look at New York, Susquehanna & Western's FX Matt Brewery switching job in Utica NY on the chilly morning (47 degrees) of May 26, 2023 as GP40 No. 3040 spots one car amid a cacophony of sounds.
Trains and a brewery, a marriage made in heaven. When you know the train conductor by his first name, that is golden. This is what makes America Great. Thank you Rambler.
Wonder if that brew is as good as that engine manoeuvring
@@TheClockwise770 You know it baby!
I was at that brewery as a kid in Utica, now in roseville,CA.
That was the switchman, not a conductor.
@@ThisIS_Insane no sir the conductor is the switchman, this is a conductor.
Nice to see an experienced crew of a small railroad at a small brewery, performing a task that is generations old, but that the big railroads can't be bothered with. Good video!
this is so great to see a company using rail transport for their commodities!
A lot of that screeching and squealing on a tight curve is caused by the fact that the wheelset is one solid unit. So, in a curve the outside wheel is traveling further than the inside one and it has to skid on the rail a little bit to stay with the inside wheel.
Well, that's only one reason. But the main issue was the track curve was too acute for such a long wheelbase carriage. Generally in Broadgauge tracks, track curves are way too large so that the wheels don't screem.
Hence why automobiles use differentials
I don’t think that’s true. The wheel tread has a taper that allows the outside wheel to ride up a bit, effectively increasing the circumference of the outer wheel and decreasing the circumference of the inner wheel.
Yeah, the differential is from the wheel taper, pretty sure it's the flange of of the wheel doing unpleasant things.
The wheels of a railed vehicle are tapered to form a double sided cone (one taper per wheel), this allows the wheel to "technically" run at the speeds needed to make curves with monoblock wheels. The reason for the screeching is rather the flange, on tight curves the flanges are pushed against the side of the rail which causes the screeching and other noises. I don't know about rail cars but locomotives actually have a lubricant that is applied to the flanges for this reason.
I love seeing the train running in the middle of the road. Thank you for showing the closeup of him switching the rails. Always wondered how they did that. It amazes me how that the engine and car fit inside the brewery like that
I've been driving trains in Europe for ten years now so i'm pretty much used to it by now, but that horn sure is a thing of beauty! Not to mention the street running and the direct service to a local industry :)
North American railroading has so much more visual and audial beauty when compared to other railroad systems in the world... right down to the literal bells and whistles.
For all of America's faults, railroading was definitely something they got right, aside from not utilizing MORE of it... the auto industries are to blame for that.
And you can thank Canadian inventor Robert Swanson for that beautiful horn.
Now I’m gonna lookup trains in Europe….lol
@@Belleville197 freight yes, but Europe and Asia , passenger rail is much better than here. I wish we weren't car centric and had better walkable cities .
@@torquetrain8963 totally agree... North America used to have excellent and frequent passenger service... and lots of it too... a vast network of lines... all gone in favor of cars.
@@Belleville197 correct
I measured the radius on Google Earth, and it's about 160 feet, which is really tight. If you wanted to see what a 22" HO radius (which is pretty common for mainlines on ordinary layouts) would look like in the real world, this is it.
Like running O trains on an O27 curve
more like 15 radius
Just amazing how close that engine and train car come to the building walls inside and out. Thanks for sharing!
This is classic "close clearance" where there is less than 8.5 feet from the center line of the track to both sides for obstructions. The 8.5 feet dimension would need to be increased because of the curve. This location would have had to get an exemption for the close clearance requirements.
@@royreynolds108 Thanks for the interesting reply.
I would also bet that GP40 is darned near the max size locomotive that could get in that building.
I'd bet the original design (and usage) was for SW series locos or GP7/9 sized frames.
@@litz13 Thanks for sharing your interesting notes.
Great video! Last mile industrial ops are fascinating. And a bonus: friendly crew. Nice.
It is awesome to see active street trackage and an active switch in the street! Short lines and regionals take way better care of customers such as these. On a class one this beautiful stretch of track would’ve been abandoned at best maybe even removed!
I used to work in a warehouse just like that. It too, was part of a brewery, abandoned by the time I worked there. The warehouse was wedge shaped with rails in the floor in an equally tight curve. Ours didn't have a platform, however. It was being used as a shipping hub for a small franchise package delivery warehouse. That job ended one bright, winter day when a heavy, wet snow brought down the roof. The brewery was later sold, restored, and is back in service.
Greetings from France. Very interesting video, especially the technical aspects like the doors hidden in the street surface to access the switch mechanism. We had such sidings in the past accessing plants and industrial sites, but now most have vanished, with just remnants that are difficult to locate. Good to see that such great rail stuff still exists in your country!
Thanks for your especially interesting comment!
Gotta be the coolest spot to set of a car caught on tape
Thank you for taking us along for the ride…it’s a great gift for people like myself who can’t travel to different destinations
Thanks for posting this video. This is the type of trains video I enjoy the most.
It's good to see videos like this. I grew up in the Utica area and have fond memories of this location. Thanks for posting.
So glad you caught this! Until the late 50's the South Shore had a passing siding on 11th Street in front of the Michigan City Station. Both ends had a single point switch, which I remember looking at as a kid. The siding was removed, but after decades as a single track the line will soon be double tracked. Cheers from Wisconsin!
As of summer of 2022, they are removing the street-grade trackage through town, sadly. I only learned about the operation *after* it was announced it would be removed! Missed a unique opportunity but much thanks to all the people like Rambler here that capture these moments for everyone to witness in the future.
@@realpillboxer that's a terrible shame.
My daughter graduated from Syracuse; I was lucky to spend time in the area. I absolutely love it! thank you for the videos
Didn't expect this to be so wholesome
FX is probably my favorite switching job to watch. Thanks!! U.C. for me!!
very cool video, that switch moves so smoothly pretty neat. Thanks for sharing
Looks like well engineered infrastructure, will probably last 100 years of service.
Thanks for bringing back some childhood memories. Haven’t lived there for a long time but it will always be home.
Toured Utica club when I was a kid , in Roseville ,ca. Now
What a great modeling idea.
Tonight I'll dream about a few Schultz and Dooley UC commercials from Channel 3 WSYR, the only channel we got in Moravia on my dad's 75' high double conical VHF antenna.
The German street band will go by the tavern's window, but Dooley's crush on the girly mug still has him fascinated. No beer company would DARE giving us kids so much pleasure, today. Thank you Utica Club for being part of this 77-year-old's childhood memories!
That K5 sounded great. Especially when you were following the train. Beautiful echos. Love how the conductor said love you to his daughter.
Is Ethan now a Hollywood mega star having appeared in one of you videos? I think he is!! Thank you for taking the time to make this film 🙃
That was amazing. It's only when you see these things on a street that you really appreciate their size and power.
That is awesome, very good catches here! GP40 sounding absolutely gorgeous!
Wow, its great to see this...greetings from Germany...I love the American Railway
I subscribed just because of this video! Love seeing Railroads like this still being used.
This was an awesome video that brought back a ton of memories. Thanks for sharing this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Best one yet . Mister. that's Kool how our little town still survives. PEACE
Too cool! Takes me back to simpler times. . . ;)
👏🏻👏🏻Your videos never get old, thank you! 😉
Fascinating track switch. I love the connection with the guy on the train. Pretty cool video
one of the best train vids out there!
Great video, thanks for sharing
Wow! This takes you back to the old days.
Looking in from N. Yorkshire, England. Wonderful videos.
Pure lovely ..many thanks DVD:)
MOST EXCELLENT VIDEO 😮💯👍👍👍
Well Done!
I’m from Cooperstown NY. Not far from Utica.
Love to see the old streets. Such fun.
Cheers!
Relly cool video!!! Loved it!!!
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Truly enjoyed this video. Never heard of an in-ground switch before, nor have I heard of that brewery before, so my ongoing education is all the richer. Thanks for making it.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Thanks for sharing some unique switching at the brewery. Do see street running in Kentucky but the brewery work is special. 👍
Excellent video, thank you so much! I love street running, and I was not familiar with Utica, New York until your video. Excellent references for scenicking on my own layout. Thanks!
I saw a photo of a locomotive hugging that curve a while back and wondered what it was. There was no info on the photo. Thanks for filming. So cool to see its actually from modern times.
Thanks for all your great videos. Left Little Falls about 5 years ago after living there my whole life and do miss the rail action.
3040! Good to see that locomotive back. Street running and switching. Twice as good!
I have that very engine from Atlas in HO scale.
Now that's cool! Thanks for sharing.
To quote an old 1970 commercial, " You just can't argue over Utica Club, cause they put so much love in to it" I lived in Utica for a very brief time in 1970. I thought the brewery's name was West End Brewing Co, I could be wrong. PS Is the Obelston still there on Genesee St?
I miss all these sounds…Having grown up right next to a busy track it became a reassuring sound each time one came through. Night or day..
I bet that switch is a joy in the winter.
Great video ,a historical railroad video, thank you👍
Switching at a brewery: doesn't much cooler than that! THANKS!
I love this! I love trains. I remember as a kid The Erie Lackawanna RS-3 dropping box cars at Fay St. warehouse
Thanks for sharing this video with me. I remember the trains coming to the warehouse across from us on Fay St. in Utica when we were kids. I also lived on Schuyler St as a young adult and the train used to ride down the middle of the street. I forgot about how that used to sound until this video brought everything back.
Love this! I’m not too far from Utica and I would love to come see this operation someday.
Lived a block away from this line for a long time at one point, neat to see this randomly pop up in my feed.
Make some good drinks there.
I am always happy when I see a railroad connection into any sort of industry still functioning.
This is so cool! I am so glad I found your channel. I live near here and always hope to catch a train when I am on this street.
Now that was cool!
Awesome Catch!
Great video. I love small time operations
That is one heck of a tight fit! Thanks for the video, this was very exciting!
This should have its own you tube channel with daily updates
Really Cool. Thanks
That was amazing! I actually loved the wheel sounds 😊
That is so cool that you see a locomotive on a trolley looking track like this.
what a marvel of engineering, for me this place is magical, I would live happily living and working in this place, thanks for showing these details congratulations for the video
Love the NYS&W. I see them in and around Binghamton, especially the Frito Lay plant bringing in corn oil, and vegetables to make all our snacks!
This is one of the coolest unique railfanning videos I've seen on RUclips for a while. Hope you get high views for it. Just sub to your channel.
Wow, great stuff. I see the Elevated Gate Tower down the street - just like the Atlas HO model. Brilliant that all these things still exist.
Here's a closer look at the tower: ruclips.net/video/uryj_WK702E/видео.html
Fantastic video & so cool seeing a historic brewery.
Awesome video. I believe Model Railroader magazine made a building just like this for one of their layouts
We had 2 breweries in St Paul as a kid in 1950, Schmidt's and Hamm's this switching I saw 4 20.yrs...all important " sidings" every other block,10 mph tracks...great post ❗
Outstanding! I love the old watchman tower in the background. It's good to see one still extant.
Man those are sure sharp turns
Very cool! I've always wondered how in-street switches worked. The derailer is neat too.
We used to take a pry bar on those street switches
I’ve seen a pry bar used here on occasion as well.
Definitely gotta visit Utica again. Passed by once on 95. Stopped briefly to grab a bite to eat. Thought those tracks were abandoned.
Absolutely gonna visit again! Cheers from MA!
Neighbourhoods need trains 😊 Fantastic film !!
Thank you for taking the time to document this interesting operation, great video!
Very nice work!
Excellent video. Great action!
Great video. Thanks for filming and sharing. Fantastic to see that small branch line activity 👍
I lived 1 street away for 2 years and I don’t think I ever seen the train during the day. Thanks for posting.
Fantastic video of local brewery switching combined with street running. 70 years ago my grandparents lived two houses from Steam street running which included switching for Coal storage, meat packing, industrial industries in Chicago.
one thing to also note, that is the tightest curve in the US, and has significant restrictions in terms of locomotive and size. Aka it can only be switched by a GP38 or smaller locomotive due to such a tight curve. In terms of Model Railroading curves, that curve is equivalent to a 19" radius curve (15dg) in N scale (Atlas track). To give you the idea that in Model Railroading, all curves used are tighter then IRL counterparts but that is entirely because of the compression done in model railroading.
We were in Utica Monday, 08 April. I made sure we saw the iconic street track!
Thanks for posting this
Nice catch. I like switching. This sound is music in my ears. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
I love the way that they have the flashing light on the inside of the building, just in case you couldn't hear the train...
Lol, I noticed that as well!
What a cool vid, nice GP-40. What a tight curve that is to, wow.
Greetings from Tonawanda, NY! Cool as always! ❤️👍🏻I dig the EL GP7 pic.
I just "found" you. Rambler. I am a70 year young retired car guy who LOVES trains. Thank you for the crystal clear video.....I WILL be back !!!
lol cramming outros in between train horn sounds has gotta be the most train enthusiast thing ever. I'm no train person but what an interesting video.
Great video highlighting this, I love street running!
As a kid I got to go to the old Utica Club Brewery with my parents. I think back then (60s),they had a street car that you could ride. I remember taking the tour, and then having root beer at the end. And my parents drank UC.
Awesome video! 👌
I've never seen a track in the middle of the street. super cool!\
Very cool to see