How to get DTS on your Sonos with S2 Version 13.4
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2021
- Version 13.4 of the Sonos S2 app and firmware brings about a huge update which brings DTS support to all Sonos home theatre devices, which even includes the oldest playbar from almost a decade ago. Talk about support!
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Love that you give the summary allowing viewers to get the information and move on if no time to listen to the whole video.
This makes me want to stay and watch the whole video out of respect.
Content spot on as always!
I found your channel most informative about audio/Sonos world! Good work!
Great news from Sonos, just in time for the holidays. Thanks for sharing!!😃
Pete your the best! Your the only resource that I use when it comes to my Sonos set-up. Thanks for the update.
As a blind person who just got his first pair of Sonos one GEN two speakers for my birthday and the sound is amazing. Thank you for posting videos like this because it’s just so hard to find a video about Sonos settings and have them all explained and in precise and detailed description. Do you have a new subscriber and me and again thank you for posting videos that actually are worth me listening to and also for going into the settings and explaining everything you rock and you’re awesome thank you so much
That’s high compliment. Thank you for showing appreciation!
So happy about this. It was such a let down when I got my Arc and last night I watched a DVD and was blown away. Can't wait to re-watch all my old DVD's now.
When i saw your vid, i immediately proceed to update my sonos app via my smartphone. A couple of updates needed, but when done...wow! DTS supported! I still need to play 3D movies via the BDplayer, so DTS is much appreciated!! thks for the info!
For an audiophile physical discs give you the best audio on these systems compared to the audio compression on streaming
Facts, you should see the comments on the Sonos fanpage that I’m in on Facebook. Most people don’t even care, it’s like what?!! 🤦🏽♂️ lossless audio makes the entire system sound better
The battery of the Roam is the worst I have seen on a portatil speaker. The DTS is welcome, but it arrive too much late
Excellent video yet again my friend ☺️
Great video as always, thank you so much for all of the helpful videos that you post. I just wanted to say that for gamers, specifically with XSX who connect it directly to their TV with their Sonos arc but without a receiver, the DTS update has been a godsend. Until now the only way to get anything but Stereo (for me anyways) has been Atmos, but Atmos with XSX and a sound bar connected directly to the TV introduces significant audio latency during games for many people. The DTS update gives a surround sound option without the audio latency so for me this update has been incredibly functional!
On your tv, in audio setting set it on passtrough.
Thank you! As always very informative.🔊
My pleasure!
I wasn’t getting DTS surround on my new beam second generation until I turned it on in my TV settings it does make a huge difference in sound quality 👍🏻
Great content as always, thanks for the info! Have you taken a look at the Sound Blasterx Katana V2? I'd love to hear your opinions about it
Thanks for this video !
I have oled cx
Hi Pete, thank you so much for the video. Just wondering what is your recommendation in home theater setup between Sonos arc + sub vs Sony HT-A9 + sub? Thank you.
I’ve come so accustomed to Atmos, that I had completely forgotten about DTS. It’s pretty cool that we can get DTS from our Blu-ray Discs 💿
@@elijahfluw4347 I like Bananas
It's shameful Sonos didn't intend to have DTS HD/DTS-X compatibility from the beginning given their price range but I guess they started more of being mainly music focused... Still I think it's a rather short sighted for their soundbars.
Hi Peter, my setup is an LG TV C2 with a PS5 and a sonos arc. When I put a blu ray disc with DTS audio, I have no sound while the movie is playing. The only way it works is if I turn off eARC support on my TV and turn it back on. Is there a way where I won’t have to this everytime I watch a movie with DTS audio?
Peter what kind of blu ray/4K player to you use
Thank you
Hi!
I have trouble connecting Sound bar Arc to laptop and PC via HDMI cable?
- First, my laptop is Dell Alliance ware M17r2. It has one HDMI 2.0 port. I tried to connect them together with an HDMI cable that is included in the soundbar box but it didn't work.
- And the PC has a graphic card RTX 3080 (HDMI 2.1 port, 3 display port). Can I use the HDMI port of the graphic card to connect directly to the soundbar, and display port to monitor?
I am playing DTS audio discs via my PS5, which are picked up as LPCM 7.1 from the Sonos Arc. Does this mean it’s lossless?
My current tv won’t go beyond 2.0 for pcm, the DTS update through the Sonos arc opened up the 5.1 channels for my blu rays. I was considering another sound bar as I wasn’t going to give up my blu rays (the audio and picture on physical media is insane). Glad they added DTS support, hope they add other DTS codecs, but I won’t hold my breath.
You can get a hdfury arcana it supports all the same audio codecs that sonos supports but if you have more than 1 device hooked up you'd require a 4k switch to save jumping cables.
GREAT news.... just got a soundbar Beam 2,,, I got the 13.4 but no number showing the volume ;(. Do I have to upgraede the soundbar itself too?
Hey Peter funny you added your last comment about the phone volume control works on the app, as I noticed with iPhone 12 Max Pro it did not. The volume on the phone goes up but the slider does not move.
Hello, very interesting channel, i do have the same problem. first i guess the sound slider is not yet supported on android devices.
I have a c8 and dts works fine with my sonos beam, but sonos arc on my c1 doesnt play dts at all.
@peter pee Alexa on Sonos arc seems low volume/quiet. Are you experiencing this too?
I have an lg C9 that supposedly still supports DTS.. Anyone have any ideas what VLC settings I should use to get DTS working?
I am eager to see u review the new Sony HT-A9. It seems like tough competition to Sonos Arc.
I connect my Xbox to my TV and the TV doesn't have any options for DTS, just Dolby and PCM. Is there a way around this?
A little off topic but you being a Sonos expert can you tell why the volume when asking Alexa is so low,can barely hear it. Just setup a new ARC and see no way to adjust volume for Alexa.Checked different threads about this with no help. Assumed it would match tv volume.thanks
For whatever reason, my arc only does dts if I use pass through. I have the lg c9 which does support dts. The info screen on the tv will indicate it’s outputting pcm but the Sonos app says dts. It’s a bit annoying but I guess it works. It doesn’t seem to downscale dts x to dts either. Seems like a waste unless I’m missing something. 🤷🏾♂️
Hey Peter ! Great video. An off-topic question. Can 2 sonos one speakers be added to a home theatre system: arc + double gen 3 bass +and 2x fives for surround??? If so will it affect current sound? Thanks
You can add it but it will not be to the same Home Theatre 'room'. You set it up separately and play to the two rooms. Not much purpose and added benefits if you ask me.
@@PeterPee Thank you for your response. I really enjoy your videos. I used to solely look at Bose but after watching your informative videos, I’ve switched to Sonos. Keep on putting out those awesome videos.
What year n model LG? I have 2020 LG OLEDcx.
Peter. I need your advice. I currently have the ARC in my living room. The beam gen 1 in my bedroom and the older playbar in my spare room. I ordered the beam gen 2 to replace my beam gen 1. I was planning on selling the beam gen 1 but now I’m not sure if I should sell that or the playbar. The playbar sounds much better than the beam but doesn’t have hdmi or a voice assistant. So it’s a tough call. Should I sell the older playbar that sounds better? Or sell the beam gen 1 that has more updated features but doesn’t sound as good?
Well the beam gen 1. Having both beams at home will give you the same “taste” so I guess you’ll do better with variety?
Peter, I have the same issue my 2020 model Samsung QLED will not passthrough DTS so all I can get is Stereo PCM badge on the upgraded Sonos 13.4. I don't understand how you could get multichannel 7.1 on the Sonos Arc, could you please explain? I might cancel my Nexflix DVD plan and focus on streaming like you do and only buy newer 4K Blu-Rays that have Dolby Atmos. Thank you, I always enjoy your videos and comments.
Same thing happened to me, I sold my Sonos ARC & Sub and am waiting for the Samsung HW-Q950A to arrive.
Hi, I'm not sure if you have fixed your issue yet but I thought I could share my experience which may help. I have Samsung 'the frame' 2021 tv with a sonos beam gen 2. At first Passthrough would show up fine but if I left the tv and came back to it, passthrough would disable itself and provided on PCM. It was very frustrating especially after reading that this is supposed to be a wide spread issue which I only found out about after buying the TV. I'm pretty sure it's a Samsung issue because I had the same problem with Samsungs OWN soundbar (q700a)! It was actually worse because with the q700a I couldn't get passthrough at all!
Anyway, I found a 2 part 'fix' that seems to work for me so far:
1- first part is to get an external smart device such as Chromecast, apple tv box, firestick ect. From what I read, native Samsung apps found within their smart tv and apps DO NOT send the appropriate signal. plug the device into HDMI 1 or 2 (not gaming port or earc port - earc port should be connected to Sonos). This is how I set it up.
2- Turn the TV off and on before watching it (even if art mode is on). Doing so would enable passthrough option. I noticed that when I got passthrough working, then left for a few hours and came back to watch tv, passthrough would be disabled. The only fix was to turn the tv off and on.
The second option is annoying and the fist option cost money but for me it is working so far! I get passthrough enabled and I see Dolby Atoms signal in the Sonos app when watching Netflix on Chromecast tv.
Forgot mention, it could also be related to the HDMI cable for some. I had issues at first when using one of my own HDMI cable, I had to switch cables for Sonos to detect the tv.
Guess I was lucky with the LG C9 the last model to pass through DTS
How do I get TV on now playing screen? When I’m watching tv I see pandora on now playing but I don’t have pandora running.
You are connected to the TV using the ARC port right?
@@PeterPee yes
I have the 13.4 version and my Sonos Arc is one of the first run units, no issues works great!
Hello peter,great review as always.can i ask you something about the sonos arc?i have the upper speaker volume to + 10, is it too much?what is the ideal volume for me to really feel those up firing effects in atmos?thank you peter.ah and do i have to do again the TRUE PLAY?
Hi Juan this might help? Watch "Sonos Arc Best Setting - Updated for 2021 & later" on RUclips
ruclips.net/video/icKD2LRfzK4/видео.html at about the 12min mark? but my advice would be find a good atmos movie or more so one of the atmos trailers, watch it with the height volume at different levels multiple times.... start at -10 and work your way up in 5 intervals, -5, 0, 5, 10.... find what suits you and your space.... my personal experience with this set up is it takes time, personal customisation and the right content to get a true feel for what it's doing. You may think you have to go to +10, but when you trial at different levels for a good amount of time I.e. -10 then 0 you get a real feel for the sound it's putting out..
Hope this helps.
@@jb7753 hello JB,thank you so much,i watched the video,and also did what you told me to play an atmos content and make a try or adjustments in the up firing speakers.Ah first i did again the true play,cant remember if i did it after they made the update for the up firing speakers.I test it with the BLADE RUNNER 2049 movie now i have my volume at +5,i think thats the setting that suit for my
Listening area.I hope that one day sonos will have surround speskers with up firing speakers,like what other company did.have a good day JB.
@@juanvalera7272 no worries mate happy to help. I've gotten a lot of information and support through the commenting community so it's always good to give back. I do need to watch that movie though I hear it's good sound. If you want a really good audio watch get your hands on Hans Zimmer live in Prague!! Great audio and a little of classic movie soundtracks!
@@jb7753 thanks a lot JB i will try to find what you just told me i only have netflix and amazon prime.the other day i saw a movie its not an atmos content but it really sounds great,cant remember the tittle😂😂 i dont know kow many movies i watched this month😂.JB can i ask you one more thing?is there a huhe difference atmos from an exterior device?i mean from a bluray?compare to atmos which is loseless from native apps like netflix?
Thank you JB hope you and your family ate all fine.keep safe
@@juanvalera7272 G'day Juan. I feel that there is a difference from physical media vs streaming from the comparison's I've done myself personally. One test I did was with Pacific Rim, I played the same scenes one after the other between disc and streaming I could see and hear the difference and that's not even atmos sound. It is to be expected when comparing anything playing from physical to where nternet is required.
Next week will be interesting as I have changed my internet plan to double the current speed. Whilst I'm happy with my current speed and watching 4k visual and atmos content through my apple 4k tv, I do see and hear a difference between the 2 forms, especially after watching all episodes of Game of thrones recently on blu-ray with atmos sound.
Once my speed increases I'll have a true comparison to go by and can give a more definite answer. That Hans Zimmer I recommended is only available on Blu-Ray disc, not sure you'll find it on streaming.
Thank you for the best wishes, all well here. I hope the same for you and your family.
Cheers Mate.
Love your videos 😃 im disappointed with LG CX Not supporting DTS Output
You watch a lot of dvd or Bluray? Or game on consoles?
@@PeterPeeI have a Apple TV 4k, and have lots of DVD and Blu-ray 📀 and some UHD Movie's
Should I see DTS coming through my Apple TV just on my Sonos beam 2 (no extra speakers) ?
Apple TV doesn’t support DTS. It’d imagine if your Blu Ray player supports it you should be good.
I wish they would add the subwoofer as part the easy access EQ
I have 13.4 but no numbers on volume slider or any of the other new volume controls. Smh
Im sure this is the place to ask all SONOS questions, so I have an PS5 with a Sonos ARC only, and wondered if anyone could recommend the most optimum settings for this as all my games seem to have lip sync issues and there is no clear instruction anywhere on the best settings to apply? Appreciate any advice of help
Are these games running above 30 frames per second? Because I’ve noticed most, if not all, video games have some kind of lip-sync issues as soon as the frame rate goes above 30 frames per second.
However, there is a setting in the Sonos app under ‘System’ labeled as “TV Dialog Sync”. It’s not terribly precise, instead of adjusting by milliseconds, it only allows settings of 1-5. But it can help if the sound is starting before the lips start moving. If the lips are already moving before the sound? It’ll probably make it worse.
I don’t own a ps5, so I can’t say if it has its own sync settings. Nor do I know if your tv allows audio sync adjustments when using eArc pass-through. My lg does not.
Do the sync issues happen with streaming services or only games? What TV do you have? Assuming it has Arc or eArc support you might check your TVs passthrough settings. For PS5 audio output I set it to HDMI device (av amplifier) 5.1ch and linear pcm for audio format priority
@@namzug231 thank you ever so. I have an lg c9 and will try the settings now. Fingers crossed 🤞
Btw Pete, DTS, does that literally mean all formats but most importantly DTS HD Master Audio??
I read somewhere it was just dts, and if it was to roll out it would be only on arc and not beam gen 2 probably cause they don't want people buying beam gen 2 over the arc.
But for me having dts on my beam is amazing upgrade that i thought would never come and i'd be stuck buying dvd's
Thanks for replying, Peter. Just to clear up, I have a Playbar (just updated all my system to 13.4 inc 2x play 1's and Sub gen 3) will my Playbar decide DTS and are you saying in your reply that if Sonos do allow DTS HD Master Audio in future it will only be for Arc etc?
@@jeffleigh3747 I'm fairly certain Sonos is just supporting basic DTS 5.1, so no DTS-HD and no DTS:X
On my LG C9 I found that /I had to disable eARC to get DTS Surround 5.1 to work?? Anyone else had this? I probably won't bother with it and go back to Multi Channel PCM if I'm honest. If it isn't DTS-HD or X it probably isn't worth worrying about? Thanks for the video, really helpful.
Very much in agreement. I do not think it's worth the effort if at all.
I have the latest version like you in the video. But i see notthing back in the app. No slider volume numbers and so. Strange...
If you're on Android that is a future release.
I have an lg c1. Playing a dts movie but my arc shows stereo pcm
Im a collector of 4K discs and it annoys me that some are in DTS. This was why I was so excited that Sonos updated the app. But I’ve since found out my 2020 Samsung tv doesn’t support it 😭
Haha I think I know a guy that had some info that can help you 😉👍
Exact same thing happened to me, I was super excited when I saw the DTS news. Updated the S2 app, ran downstairs to throw in a DTS disc, and got the same old 2 channel stereo I got before. Did a little reading and found out in order to get DTS, your TV has to have passthrough.
So I sold my Sonos ARC & Sub and am waiting for a Q950A to arrive!
C1 OLED doesn't offer even offer DTS passthrough, so with my ARC this won't even matter, good video though :)
Most lg’s don’t/won’t. It sucks. It’s why I had to buy an nvidia shield pro. Full quality DTS/HD/X (no height channels) lpcm-bitstream-decoding (Sonos added that lpcm-input ability earlier this year I think), and lossless Dolby TrueHD/Bluray Atmos pass through for the Arc. Most streaming devices can’t handle the lossless Dolby/Atmos signals from a disc, nor can they send a lossless decoded stream of anything, let alone DTS. The Apple TV 4K can do some of that. The shield can do it all :)
@@Chimera_Photography yeah same I have Shield so plays, but doesn't show dts hd logo on my app which is the whole point lol
I’m confused about the audio output when playing music through Sonos.
I thought playing music with a lossless source (Apple Music) would display as HD through the app? This is not the case.
It displays for sonos radio but not Apple?
Can anyone explain this please? Does this mean that Apple Music is not played back as lossless. I don’t mean HiRes content I’m talking about the CD quality lossless content.
I’m playing back through arc, sub and ones
What's the source device your playing the music from?
@@jb7753 I’m streaming Apple Music through the Sonos S2 app to Arc, Play Ones and sub
@@MrKerryjd as you can already tell, it won't do it through the app. Check this vid out for advice Watch "Apple Music Spatial Audio: How To Listen On Sonos Today" on RUclips
ruclips.net/video/6NDj5eX87kA/видео.html
@@jb7753 thanks. Much appreciated!
A bit late for DTS from sonos, I’m am of the generation where we were crying out for DTS on the playbar.. but it never came.
A bit pointless after the arc superseded that audio format with atmos, unless you own a playbar I guess.
This DTS update is more for users that don’t have eARC; it’s for those that are using optical or standard ARC that can’t get multichannel PCM.
If you’ve connected your soundbar via eARC, it’s better to transfer the audio from blurays as PCM anyway.
At least this way, you’ll still get the lossless track when watching movies that have DTS HD Master Audio. If you set it to Bitstream, the DTS-HDMA will be down-converted to lossy DTS.
So is putting out in pcm better than bitstream? Does that work for atmos?
I can confirm Xbox series x with dts app/sound enabled works on sonos in dts on arc if that helps👍
Does the hdfury arcana support dts..
Yep. I use the arcana, the day after the 13.4 update arcana released a firmware update to support it. Arcana also supports Dolby true hd and atmos.
None of these features are on android
I only need DTS for some older movies I download.
So DTS:X is now supported?
Only ”standard” DTS unfortunately. I assume it would require Sonos to license other DTS formats.
Why stop now? I’m sure Sonos will allow DTS:X in the future. However, their is very little selection of discs having DTS:X
All my discs I’ve checked have DTS-HD. Is this supported too?
@@willterrance6546 Sadly, nope. Only the “core” DTS will be used. There’s information out there how the ‘core’ DTS gets ‘unpacked’ from the other DTS formats but I don’t recall the specifics of the DTS container configuration :-P All I remember is, the extra information gets thrown away.
Tech constantly drives me mad. Just when you think you’ve got all bases covered… DOH you discover you’re new gear doesn’t support something on the long list. I have the same LG setup with a beam 2, and only just discovered the TV doesn’t support DTS. How can it not??? Makes me want to SCREAM.
Listen to “ Hell Freezes Over” The Eagles Band in DTS….
Sorry, meant DECODE DTS, not decide
Sould of keeps my arc instead of the Sony ht a9 now 😞
😂
man, I had the HT-A9 for three weeks, and immediately started to miss the control we had over EQ and height channel adjustments so I returned the A9. I hope Sonos releases something similar in the future.
The Sony ht a9 is alot better then Sonos
Sonos is a rip-off. Be careful spending to much money on their products