yep, just glanced at this video and thought shit that drummers tight, don't have to hit hard to produce fast off kilter poly-rhythms, you just need skill!
Exactly what I believe, Greg Ginn is an asshole, and can't make ends with ANY of the original Black Flag members. This sounds WAY better than the modern Black Flag.
Nice band No More 00:25 Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie 2:40 Jealous Again 4:46 Wasted 6:42 Clocked In 7:38 American Waste 9:56 Padded Cell 11:32 Louie Louie 13:30
Big Joe Harley is a great bassist but is shit at vocals. He’s also a gigantic asshole and starts shit with anyone who disagrees with him so I’d definitely rather prefer these guys over him any day. The cro mags were great but not even close to the same level black flag was on cmon man
These guys a few years from reaching retirement age, yet somehow they're still more energetic and have a a far more powerful stage presence than most bands with kids in their 20's.
I can't imagine doing it with a pick. I play with a pick as well but for bass in general and expressive aggressive bass fingers are way better by me. With fingers I get way more control and expressive range. Das best alles.
58 years old. Born and raised in the UK. Got into American hardcore in a big way in ‘81. Saw BF at the Lyceum in ‘81 and I saw them 4 times after that. This is the closest to ‘81 you can get and I count myself lucky to have seen Flag at rebellion a few years ago. I almost wet myself, but that might be old age.
One of the best concert recordings and best performances I have ever seen, period. This should be regarded as the definitive * Flag performance. The entire band is absolutely on point, authentic, and Keith is a ball of righteous fire.
The only recording I like more is this same lineup doing My War at the Redondo Beach Moose Lodge. Un-fucking-real amount of energy and honestly, I think Keith's performance blows Henry's out of the water.
+Ed Mitchell there is little more to punk rock than just this Ed......first of all,did you experience the LA scene in the late 70s early 80s? It's a miracle i'm alive!
+Ed Mitchell Absolutely correct! ROBO was such an important part of their sound. Bill Stevenson comes the closest that I've heard to recreate ROBO's drumming style.
I recently saw these guys play at Punk Rock Bowling. I sat there in awe with my mouth open just thinking holy shit! This is the Black Flack that got me through all of the bullshit I had to put up with in school, and teenage life in general. And they sounded just as good that day as they did years ago. Thank you guys for doing this.
They sound amazing! They look like hell, but the performances has such insane energy, let's show these innovators & veterans some much deserved respect, because let's face it guys, our heroes are getting older now.
That was amazing. Chuck looks like an english professor having a seizure. Dez was always my favorite vocalist. Steve did serious justice to Greg's guitar solos.
Exactly, 8 grew up in Hermosa Beach in the 70's and 80's, I knew all the bands and was hanging out at the church at 9 years of age , Dez and Keith is it . I could not stand Henry , I still can't stand Henry . South Bay skinhead for life even though the cost of life in the great South Bay forced me to leave . Now its a fucked up place . I sold my farm in nor cal mountains in 2009 and moved home for a couple years . But bailed after that and went back to nor cal , now I live in Mohave County Arizona, fuckin hate it , but cali is a fucking piece of shit . Next move is Russia 🇷🇺. Russia has hard-core and mental scene still going strong like we had in the good ol days .
If you have this much energy as these guys in your 50's I applaud you. Good to see Robo who had to get a visa to come play this! These guys rule at this age!! What a treasure we have for now
Hearing Keith sing "I love you" in 2013 is perhaps my favorite moment in live music history and I've seen so many gigs. Name a band. I most likely have been them perform! RISE ABOVE!
they've all been members of black flag with Chuck and Kieth being original members. I wonder why they don't use blackflag... maybe Ginn or Henry have some legal claim to it?
wow im impressed...much better than any other version of Black Flag ive heard...in the late 90s early 2000s i used to eat at Millie's Restaurant in Silver Lake Los Angeles and Keith Morris the lead singer was a waiter there for years. Great food and great service. He always wore long dreads down below his knees...cool guy and a real legend
Bill Stevenson is one of the most excited dudes ever Keith is probably my favorite Black Flag vocalist- Though I am happy OFF! was eventually created. SIIIIIIIICK show. Wish I'd been there.
These guys are awesome. Would love a live album. Keith kicks ass, as usual, Chuck's rockin, Bill's awesomely solid, Dez is soundin awesome on the mic,and Egerton's a beast on guitar
Loved this band since i was a kid in the 80's and is so awesome to see most of the original guys (pre Rollins) back playing the hits now with the same intensity and aggression they had back then...Thanks for sharing this...Awesome !
Wow!!! Ripping set. All Star line up. Keith tears it up as usual. Great to see Dez up there belting it out! American Waste and Padded Cell were some of my favorite Black Flag tunes and with Dez doing the vocals really makes it that much better.Great set guys. Thanks for keeping it real.
I would trade looking as tired as Keith does in order to have his stamina...Best guy. Absolutely amazing - and that's from watching him play in the last 2 weeks. Don't miss him.
I'm not a fan of reunion shows, especially with legends _this_ old, but holy shit....They sound just as pissed off and amazing as they did in their prime. Greg Ginn, stop with your bullshit and get in on this incredible monster you created.
Daniel Medina idc how much punk cred he has, he had the least energy and weakest vocals, at least Ron, dez and henry sang the way bf made you feel, don't tell me you feel the frustration bf represents with Keith singing. Saying Keith is the best is like saying bill was the best drummer cause that's absolutely bs.
Yeah and part of the reason why Black Flag wasn't as fast and interesting was because of Rollins. Sorry, but Keith was badass. Whether you dig it or not. He had the pulse. The example of Bill Stevenson is rather a poor one. There are two different things.
THIS IS CERTAINLY THE MOST ENJOYABLE MUSIC VIDEO I DISCOVERED YESTERDAY. FLAG IIII WITH 5 DOPE MUSICIANS. FLAG IIII is sort of a Black Flag reunion band. Keith Morris, who sang with Circle Jerks and OFF, was actually the very first Black Flag singer. Chuck Dukowski was the bassist in BF starting in 1980 with the Jealous Again 12" e.p.. Dez Cadena played guitar in BF and was also their third singer. Stephen Egerton (on guitar here) began playing in The Descendants in 1987 and then in All. Bill Stevenson was a drummer in BF, The Descendants and All. Pretty much an all star lineup here in a show at Irving Plaza in 2013 here in NYC. The tempos are a tad slower than they were in the early 1980's but man, these guys can still bring it. Excellent sound quality on this video is an added kicker. Enjoy this one!
+Gustav Danielsbacka Are you talking about Chuck? because on 4:07 he was the only one hyper in that second. Dez was calm but that Steven Egerton guy was super hyper though.
This is amazing. You guys need to come to Latin America. Down here they're trying to feed us Greg Ginn's lame version of Black Flag. I won't have it. But FLAG IIII is the real deal.
@@PhantaseaTV lets see, on the one hand it is Greg Ginn, and all new members And the other it's all old members except Gregg I dunno man, I saw black flag live and it sounded like a (decent) cover band. Not black flag tho
@@nathanbruce1992 ok so you guys are talking about these revivals and not the original acts from decades ago, in which case i would agree, the Ginn revival is not as powerful as this. I just wanted to reiterate that Ginn founded the band and SST, and developed both with laudable application. Whatever he is doing now, he founded the original "version" in any case, which proved a massive contribution to punk rock.
@@PhantaseaTV yeah, definitely. From what I gather there was a huge falling out because Ginn never paid any royalties to anyone in the band (according to Rollins speaking on why there wouldn't ever be a black flag reunion). Which is kinda fucked up, even if he legally owns the rights to everything I'm conflicted though because he did write a lot of the songs and help really set the band up to be what it is
@@nathanbruce1992 probably the lawsuits (U2 etc) drained the label almost completey. I was on SST for a while and did get some royalties until the early 90s. But my band was not very popular, so yeah, i can see how heavy rotation bands like Black Flag, their members would expect quite a bit of royalties. And it's not just the music; there are T shirts and stuff like that. Well the early punk scene was not particularly known for solid contracts, unfortunately. Cheers and thanks for the reply
Yeah guys were great I agree, but man looking at em all and remembering when we were young at all the LA venues back at beginning of 80s all I can think is MAN IM Getting OLD. Ron reyes was a great black flag singer too. The 1980 jealous again album we played a million times
Nice footage. Great Edit. Incredible show. I was right in between your cameras center stage shooting film of these cats. What a fucking amazing show. Thanks for this document.
"Before we get started this is sort of a disclaimer.We are not Black Flag, we are Flag"??? C'mon Keith we all know you guys are the real Black Flag and not Greg Ginn's crappy version.
John C. Umm alright dude. Though Keith IS Black Flag to me... fuck Rollins, don’t care what people say. But Ginn literally started the band and has been the staple. If they just had Ginn this would be the show of my life.
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This is what can happen if you fire too many band members, they can get REVENGE
Not only fire them, but, cheat them out of royalties, too.
@@ExUSSailor you forgot the beating your children part
??? Can you explain ?
There's more than two x Black Flag members in the band
@@thomas-rs1vb 4 actually. The only one who was never a member is Stephen from Descendents/ALL.
Bill Stevenson is one of the best punk drummers ever.
Brian Braganza the dude is freak of nature. Amazing feel with the perfection of a metronome lol. Killed it in the descendants for years too. Big fan
Fuckin A right
Fucking eh'
And he's totally relaxed
yep, just glanced at this video and thought shit that drummers tight, don't have to hit hard to produce fast off kilter poly-rhythms, you just need skill!
am i the only one who thinks this is better than the current black flag?
No you're not. A whole fuckton of people do.
Exactly what I believe, Greg Ginn is an asshole, and can't make ends with ANY of the original Black Flag members. This sounds WAY better than the modern Black Flag.
idem
I'm with you, buddy. :)
Ned Watkins
Not a fuckton, everybody thinks this is better. The new black flag drummer sucks.
4 Black Flags, 2 Descendents, 1 Circle Jerk and 1 Misfit
1 - Circle Jerk, OFF! 😂
Yeah, I don't know how that pasted my head hahaha
ALL
4 Black Flags, 2 Descendents, 2 ALL, 1 Circle Jerk, 1 OFF! and 1 Misfit
Just FLAG IIII
Nice band
No More 00:25
Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie 2:40
Jealous Again 4:46
Wasted 6:42
Clocked In 7:38
American Waste 9:56
Padded Cell 11:32
Louie Louie 13:30
Zutr0y Thanks!
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Thanksss
Hardcore at it’s best!
In their fifties, these guys put today's so-called hardcore bands to shame.
It's because they're real punk rockers, my friend.
werd. preach it.
They put "_ _ _ _ _ _ " to shame.
Big Joe Harley is a great bassist but is shit at vocals. He’s also a gigantic asshole and starts shit with anyone who disagrees with him so I’d definitely rather prefer these guys over him any day. The cro mags were great but not even close to the same level black flag was on cmon man
Keith is more intense and better than he was 37 years ago. Listen to this and OFF!
40 yrs ago i listened to this band on my skateboard. Now im listening on a forklift truck. Great songs never die.
Chuck Dukowski is my spirit animal.
Like Charles Bukowski, but with web feet and a yellow bill.
Dudes that are OG punks and never lost a step. Major props to them.
These guys a few years from reaching retirement age, yet somehow they're still more energetic and have a a far more powerful stage presence than most bands with kids in their 20's.
Exactly 💯
Chuck Dukowski looks like he's having the time of his life!
Haha amazing :D
He is always like that. Played with him a lot. Good man. Hank and Gregg have issues.
He still has chops. Just listen to his runs and timing. You can hear he is prepared for this. Hope I rock that hard when I get old. Inspiring.
Keith Morris... The greatest vocalist of Black Flag, EVER
For my money Keith is the greatest punk frontman of all time!
Kid Convalescent Yes
I like how Stephen doesn't try copying the Ginn's guitar solos. Just kind of gives you the flavor in his own way.
Almost exactly the same but with better chops and performance. He plays Ginn's guitar parts BETTER than Ginn. Amazing!
I don't know how Chuck can play such raw music without a pick...
because he's a beast, always has been a beast!
Two fingers better than one pick.
Picks are for pussies
I can't imagine doing it with a pick. I play with a pick as well but for bass in general and expressive aggressive bass fingers are way better by me. With fingers I get way more control and expressive range. Das best alles.
remember, these guys rehearsed long hours everyday for years. In a band context you get consistent faster. no secrets here just good old practice
58 years old. Born and raised in the UK. Got into American hardcore in a big way in ‘81. Saw BF at the Lyceum in ‘81 and I saw them 4 times after that. This is the closest to ‘81 you can get and I count myself lucky to have seen Flag at rebellion a few years ago. I almost wet myself, but that might be old age.
No Mohawks, no leather, no spikes , no young musicians, but soaked on youthful intense and genuine energy!!!!!
that’s why US punk is better than UK punk
One of the best concert recordings and best performances I have ever seen, period. This should be regarded as the definitive * Flag performance. The entire band is absolutely on point, authentic, and Keith is a ball of righteous fire.
The only recording I like more is this same lineup doing My War at the Redondo Beach Moose Lodge. Un-fucking-real amount of energy and honestly, I think Keith's performance blows Henry's out of the water.
Fuckin a brother
@@GreenIce101 Keith is great, but Rollins was a beast in the 80's. Nobody can sing My War like him
I have had the pleasure of seeing FLAG in 2011, 2013, 2016 and 2019. I love this band. The musical performance is beyond the stratosphere!
gregg ginn opened 46 different youtube accounts to thumbs down this 46 times
lmao
Lol
Looks like he’s still at it.
Bill Stevenson is the god of punk rock drumming
He's awesome but he ain't Topper Headon or Paul Cook.
Bomber, RKL, do your homework. He'd smoke that fat dork on any instrument. Plus Bill's a huge homophobic asshole...
@@ArnieJames666 Fr? That’s a shame, What’d bill do?
Robo!! 👍
Dukowski is really goin off. And Kieth is still wicked.
Agreed
+Carlitos Padilla OFF!
amazing how keith kicks ass for as long as he has been doing it. his voice is still strong as ever! 34 dislikes? must be greg.
Keith Morris is a superhero in my book!
dez singing american waste is my all time favorite bf song. great to hear it again.
I wont mind buying a re-release Black Flag Tribute album or something...they still sound awesome!
Way better then modern day black flag
I'd be satisfied with a DVD of this full show.
@@JHmusic1906 exactly , I would not even think about buying B.F latest album. More likely to buy Wasted Again , again
this is such a high quality video. i come back from time to time for a listen. grew up on the old stuff in the 80's.
Yeah I love Henry but I like Keith's voice a little better
If there is anyone out there that was wondering what real punk rock is...... well...... you found it.
Yes sir
+Ed Mitchell there is little more to punk rock than just this Ed......first of all,did you experience the LA scene in the late 70s early 80s? It's a miracle i'm alive!
+Lulu Rowan exactly punk rock is more than just the music,,period!!
+Ed Mitchell Right on brother!
+Ed Mitchell
Absolutely correct! ROBO was such an important part of their sound. Bill Stevenson comes the closest that I've heard to recreate ROBO's drumming style.
I recently saw these guys play at Punk Rock Bowling. I sat there in awe with my mouth open just thinking holy shit! This is the Black Flack that got me through all of the bullshit I had to put up with in school, and teenage life in general. And they sounded just as good that day as they did years ago. Thank you guys for doing this.
"We're not Black Flag."
Lol you're funny Keith.
Carrotttt "no we're just all the kids with talent from Black Flag"
Carrotttt Well, technically....
@@martinwakefield8138 Greg is an asshole but he was a beast on the guitar (and songwriting).
Keith is Black Flag..
just so that greg doesn't sue them lmao
We are not Black Flag... we are Black Descendents!!
Joe Morales You clearly don't understand that two of the members of FLAG are from the descendents
cmon man...obviously he knows that.
I'd rather see this than vintage BF. The energy they bring to this is nuts.
I have seen the originals more than once and these guys are the best ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think we play as well as BF did around the time we recorded Damaged.
@@chuckdukowski6192 100%. Love to you and the crew, sir
It’s amazing how Stephen can just turn into Greg Ginn like that! Perfect!
He nailed it!
I usually wince at punk reunions, but this is so fucking tight. Bravo, guys!
Keith is one pissed off dude! His voice is still great.
They sound amazing! They look like hell, but the performances has such insane energy, let's show these innovators & veterans some much deserved respect, because let's face it guys, our heroes are getting older now.
seen them in amsterdam the ruled.
Tank Franz True but tell me they didn't act like they were sixteen again
Martin Wakefield didnt notice it .if it was .
old school.the best.the real punk rockers.
I was really expecting to be disappointed. I haven't listened to anything new from Black Flag or FLAGIIII in YEARS! Wow, blown away!
That was amazing. Chuck looks like an english professor having a seizure. Dez was always my favorite vocalist. Steve did serious justice to Greg's guitar solos.
My favorite Black Flag tunes have always included Keith and Dez.
Exactly, 8 grew up in Hermosa Beach in the 70's and 80's, I knew all the bands and was hanging out at the church at 9 years of age , Dez and Keith is it . I could not stand Henry , I still can't stand Henry . South Bay skinhead for life even though the cost of life in the great South Bay forced me to leave . Now its a fucked up place . I sold my farm in nor cal mountains in 2009 and moved home for a couple years . But bailed after that and went back to nor cal , now I live in Mohave County Arizona, fuckin hate it , but cali is a fucking piece of shit . Next move is Russia 🇷🇺. Russia has hard-core and mental scene still going strong like we had in the good ol days .
Jealous A Ginn!! Bwahaha
+Jeremy Allison See what you did there!!
Ooooh that's good one
Ma n lol, thats clever
Gentlemen, how about giving us a live album? This was mind-blowing!!
Unfortunately, by court order they cant monetize FLAG....
+johnnyscifi They can record a gig and, then, put it online for free...
+Ronald Filho - As is the punk rock standard, there's always a means to fuck the system.
How about a bootleg? Someone?
john Kordick I'll make the bootleg
As a mellow old guy I found this to be an anti-mellow old guy show.
Nice to see Dez singing the Black Flag stuff again, American Waste!
Love the damaged reference!!😅
If you have this much energy as these guys in your 50's I applaud you. Good to see Robo who had to get a visa to come play this! These guys rule at this age!! What a treasure we have for now
The REAL deal ... Keith is the man!
Dez singing at the end takes me back to my fave BF lineup, as on the Six Pack EP. Lacerating record to this day.
My favorite part of the set.
Robo was the one who played on Six Pack
Chuck is so into. And the fact that he's 60 makes it even better lmao.
always loved the Keith era.
Hearing Keith sing "I love you" in 2013 is perhaps my favorite moment in live music history and I've seen so many gigs. Name a band. I most likely have been them perform! RISE ABOVE!
When Dez takes the mic, goosebumps!!!!!!!!!
tighter than the original 'flag. this.is.badass
To me, Keith will always be the real singer of Black Flag.
Covers Black Flag better than Black Flag
they've all been members of black flag with Chuck and Kieth being original members.
I wonder why they don't use blackflag... maybe Ginn or Henry have some legal claim to it?
Ginn has legal claim
Black Flag is Greg's band and band name.
At this time there's more members of BF in Flag than there was in BF.
Funny shit there.
And there producer from the first album was the drummer
And the only one not from black flag is stephen
keith was always my fave singer of black flag. rollins is great, of course, but keith always was more my thing.
ummm...keith was the Original singer
Dennis Lebeau
your point is?
rollins was great? At what? BF went downhill when he joined the band. Greg fucked up. Never should have gone with hanky. Keith or Ron. rollins sucked.
Reyes was the best of the bunch. And besides Damaged (which was just basically re-recoding of pre-Henry songs), the Rollins era was terrible
i honestly don't care about your opinion. especially if you act like it's a fact and not just your taste.
Keith will always be my favorite Vocalist. It's awesome to hear this kind of Black Flag supergroup years later.
Chuck Dukowski. that's all.
Love hearing Keith sing the Rollins era songs. It’s a different kind of pissed off.
great to see old men with beer guts like me pull this off. we get old, we die, but the music lives! ha ha just kidding.
you can say what you want about me, but that doesn't erase the fact that you are an apologist for a murdering pedophile named mohammad.
wow im impressed...much better than any other version of Black Flag ive heard...in the late 90s early 2000s i used to eat at Millie's Restaurant in Silver Lake Los Angeles and Keith Morris the lead singer was a waiter there for years. Great food and great service. He always wore long dreads down below his knees...cool guy and a real legend
Bill Stevenson is one of the most excited dudes ever
Keith is probably my favorite Black Flag vocalist- Though I am happy OFF! was eventually created.
SIIIIIIIICK show. Wish I'd been there.
Sweet jesus what an amazing drummer.
Fuck
All my fav black flag songs in one setlist
Holy cow how could I miss that ?? This is my youth
Ive been going to punk shows for twenty years, i saw them on that tour, it was hands down the best punk show i ever saw.
These guys are awesome. Would love a live album. Keith kicks ass, as usual, Chuck's rockin, Bill's awesomely solid, Dez is soundin awesome on the mic,and Egerton's a beast on guitar
No More 00:25
Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie 2:40
Jealous Again 4:46
Wasted 6:42
Clocked In 7:38
American Waste 9:56
Padded Cell 11:32
Louie Louie 13:30
sound quality is excellent. Thanks!
Loved this band since i was a kid in the 80's and is so awesome to see most of the original guys (pre Rollins) back playing the hits now with the same intensity and aggression they had back then...Thanks for sharing this...Awesome !
respect to Egerton.
Ashley Eubanks he was probably ecstatic when he was invited to play with these guys, apparently he was a huge fan!!
@@buzzardsinuses4780 legend that got a chance to play with other legends
Vyprážaný Syr I’m a huge Stephen Everton fan. I’m a fan of that whole scene in the 80s in California.
@@buzzardsinuses4780 I'm a fan too, from the former eastern block
Best punk guitarist bar none for me... his fills are sick, no-one can touch that style!!!
Gotta love them rockin' geezer legends... Lovely
Amazing show! Caught Bills drum stick at the end!
Wow!!! Ripping set. All Star line up. Keith tears it up as usual. Great to see Dez up there belting it out! American Waste and Padded Cell were some of my favorite Black Flag tunes and with Dez doing the vocals really makes it that much better.Great set guys. Thanks for keeping it real.
Wow (2) vocalist from Black Flag, the bass player, and descendants, I'm glad I grew up in the South Bay. Saw it all went down.
Tim Gallegos Hi Tim youre awesome
This is so good. It's also amazing how accurate Stephen Egerton nailed Ginn's solos. Truly an impressive show. Damn.
I love how Stephen plays the solos, they aren't just random notes like Greg does, Stephen actually improvises with pentatonic scales alot.
I love how Stephen Egerton is playing a clear Ampeg just like Ginn back in the day!
Except it's not smashed to shit
dangerous energy hardcore punk its coooollllllls
Holy fucking shit...
Well,you can go ahead and take that "Old men can't rock" attitude out of commission.
Was there best show I've seen in decades
This is fucking awesome
Kieth + Chuck + Bill on drums .......... the perfect Black Flag combo
I missed them on that tour.....and I was bummed- but this is awesome quality and get sound....so thanks for posting it! It's freaking awesome!
OMG i'm shocked....i'm 40 something and hope i can still nail it and bust out like this in 20 years...wow...
Dude, the beggining, this is amazing... such power.
EPIC GIG WAS THERE TSOL KICKED ASS TOO
America needs punk rock more then ever
There are too many legends on the video...
this was bar none the best gig ive seen in 20 plus years thank you FLAG and TSOL
Cadena is an Apache Indian!
I would trade looking as tired as Keith does in order to have his stamina...Best guy. Absolutely amazing - and that's from watching him play in the last 2 weeks. Don't miss him.
I'm not a fan of reunion shows, especially with legends _this_ old, but holy shit....They sound just as pissed off and amazing as they did in their prime. Greg Ginn, stop with your bullshit and get in on this incredible monster you created.
If only he wasnt such a turd and burned too many bridges
Ps: i think i prefer Egerton these days...
Wtf how are you not. a fan of reunion shows
+XXthekingofyouXX Fuck Ginn. Let him play with his skater and the rest of his Black Flag cover band.
+XXthekingofyouXX P.S. Ginn will probably sue me for that last comment.
Wow. What more can be said. It doesn't get any better than this and these guys. Please keep rocking guys...the world needs this.
Keith was always, hands down, the best Black Flag vocalist.
Rollins was at best a B+.
Keith is A+.
Not even dez was the best, Keith was so weak in bf
***** Fuck no. He was ferocious.
Daniel Medina idc how much punk cred he has, he had the least energy and weakest vocals, at least Ron, dez and henry sang the way bf made you feel, don't tell me you feel the frustration bf represents with Keith singing. Saying Keith is the best is like saying bill was the best drummer cause that's absolutely bs.
Yeah and part of the reason why Black Flag wasn't as fast and interesting was because of Rollins. Sorry, but Keith was badass. Whether you dig it or not. He had the pulse. The example of Bill Stevenson is rather a poor one. There are two different things.
Ron also sucked. Have you even listened to the new Black Flag release?
THIS IS CERTAINLY THE MOST ENJOYABLE MUSIC VIDEO I DISCOVERED YESTERDAY. FLAG IIII WITH 5 DOPE MUSICIANS.
FLAG IIII is sort of a Black Flag reunion band. Keith Morris, who sang with Circle Jerks and OFF, was actually the very first Black Flag singer. Chuck Dukowski was the bassist in BF starting in 1980 with the Jealous Again 12" e.p.. Dez Cadena played guitar in BF and was also their third singer. Stephen Egerton (on guitar here) began playing in The Descendants in 1987 and then in All. Bill Stevenson was a drummer in BF, The Descendants and All.
Pretty much an all star lineup here in a show at Irving Plaza in 2013 here in NYC. The tempos are a tad slower than they were in the early 1980's but man, these guys can still bring it. Excellent sound quality on this video is an added kicker. Enjoy this one!
4:07 Dez : Calm the fuck down, man
+Gustav Danielsbacka Are you talking about Chuck? because on 4:07 he was the only one hyper in that second. Dez was calm but that Steven Egerton guy was super hyper though.
+Gustav Danielsbacka chuck
oh Lol
whittier doing? 562Donovan
This is absolutely amazing, I'm sorry I missed it. Sounds like a really tight Black Flag, and Morris was always awesome as a front man.
I was there. It was EPIC. Keith Morris is a GOD among men.
Hands down the best version of No More....fuckin Keith man...never disappoints
Fucking Keith, fuck yes!!!!!! Keith for fucking President!!!!!!!
Just stumbled across this... Killer set, The energy is still there! I'm sure the neighbors enjoyed it as much as I did!
This is amazing.
You guys need to come to Latin America.
Down here they're trying to feed us Greg Ginn's lame version of Black Flag. I won't have it. But FLAG IIII is the real deal.
Idiot. Greg Ginn's was not a "version". He founded Black Flag.
@@PhantaseaTV lets see, on the one hand it is Greg Ginn, and all new members
And the other it's all old members except Gregg
I dunno man, I saw black flag live and it sounded like a (decent) cover band. Not black flag tho
@@nathanbruce1992 ok so you guys are talking about these revivals and not the original acts from decades ago, in which case i would agree, the Ginn revival is not as powerful as this. I just wanted to reiterate that Ginn founded the band and SST, and developed both with laudable application. Whatever he is doing now, he founded the original "version" in any case, which proved a massive contribution to punk rock.
@@PhantaseaTV yeah, definitely. From what I gather there was a huge falling out because Ginn never paid any royalties to anyone in the band (according to Rollins speaking on why there wouldn't ever be a black flag reunion). Which is kinda fucked up, even if he legally owns the rights to everything
I'm conflicted though because he did write a lot of the songs and help really set the band up to be what it is
@@nathanbruce1992 probably the lawsuits (U2 etc) drained the label almost completey. I was on SST for a while and did get some royalties until the early 90s. But my band was not very popular, so yeah, i can see how heavy rotation bands like Black Flag, their members would expect quite a bit of royalties. And it's not just the music; there are T shirts and stuff like that. Well the early punk scene was not particularly known for solid contracts, unfortunately. Cheers and thanks for the reply
The mix is phenomenal, & so is the band.
Yeah guys were great I agree, but man looking at em all and remembering when we were young at all the LA venues back at beginning of 80s all I can think is MAN IM Getting OLD. Ron reyes was a great black flag singer too. The 1980 jealous again album we played a million times
Nice footage. Great Edit. Incredible show. I was right in between your cameras center stage shooting film of these cats. What a fucking amazing show. Thanks for this document.
"Before we get started this is sort of a disclaimer.We are not Black Flag, we are Flag"??? C'mon Keith we all know you guys are the real Black Flag and not Greg Ginn's crappy version.
John C you’re dumb Greg is black flag
REALLLY crappy.
John C. Umm alright dude. Though Keith IS Black Flag to me... fuck Rollins, don’t care what people say. But Ginn literally started the band and has been the staple. If they just had Ginn this would be the show of my life.
Even though this was the better version playing in 13, Black Flag is Greg Ginns band.
@@artothewanderer9517 If you're mad at Rollins because of Black Flags sound and look change, it was fucking Greg's band and what he wanted.
Chuck was the heart and soul of Black Flag.