overnight security is the best job if you're a college student and you can adjust yourself to the hours. i get all my schoolwork done while getting paid.
Meri Holland I game all night on my laptop, watch movies and eat pizza - I feel like I'm 14 again every night. If it payed more I'd do it for the rest of my life. Working overnight in a sleepy factory or warehouse is the best... in a hospital not so much, I spent a while working security in a trauma center. If they don't pay $16+ it's not worth the pay, unless you enjoy someone trying to injure or kill you atleast twice a week.
yes me too. I am a security guard at the college I go to. I get all my schoolwork done too my partner at work is an overzealous guard to say the least. she needs to see this video lol
It's great if you have other commitments too. I have seasonal work a couple times during the year so I've been doing seasonal security with a friends company for about 3 years. If you approach it right it's a decent, easy, and flexible job.
When I was a cop I respected anyone who wore a uniform whether military, security, corrections, dispatchers, boy scouts, etc. Now that I'm retired and do armed security work I wish I had a nickel for every patrolman who has given me the 2nd class treatment. I see them doing it to their fellow correctional officers also. It seems worse in some parts of the country than in others.
Steve, I have co-workers who are retired LE, many are active reserves, a lot are academy graduates in the process with one or more departments. I am a POST-certified academy graduate myself and a volunteer for a local PD. And I do get it why many LEO's are treating security guards/officers/rent-a-cops/wannabe's, whatever... the way they do. Just last night I had to chew off an ear or two off of one of my standing officers, because he didn't do his job right. I went through some of his reports and they were literally copy/pastes every single hour's entry. He's working at a property that gets a lot of trespassers, drug use, vandalism, etc. He doesn't see, hear or smell anything. He's a good guy, but his performance simply sucks. He's not physically fit, his reports are - as mentioned above - below par and he he's not doing anything to improve his situation. There are too many people working in security who are just like him. And these people are dragging down the reputation of all those who really care about their job and deliver. Now, that's one point. People like him do not help in any way to improve the reputation of security personnel. Next: What do many Cops experience? Overzealous, over-eager, people who actually do believe that wearing a uniform and some fantasy-badge makes the somehow something like a Cop. A lot of these people have nothing to show but the most basic security training, meaning a simple, open-book-test that literally an untrained monkey could pass with ease. I don't want to come across rude and/or disrespectful, but an open-book test? Seriously? Next thing is: Cops often get called to more or less questionable citizen's arrests conducted by such security guards. The tests to become a security guard do not incorporate any significant knowledge about laws. Basically a few constitutional aspects are mentioned (which do not apply to private security anyway). Then: Some bouncer of a bar, wearing a tank-top and baggy pants, has the exact same qualification as the mall-cop next door and the patrol officer rolling down the street in his decked out vehicle who's carrying a gun, Taser, etc... No distinction is being made between them. Legally they're all the same... Now imagine yourself as LEO being called to some shady bar and maybe thirty minutes before you go 10-7, because their head-bouncer decided that some drunk kid deserved to be beat up for no other reason than being a dick. You might have some reports to finish and hate the thought of spending another hour at the station with paperwork. And yet you got that call jut because of some "security guard's" damaged ego. And let's say that happens like every other day at a variety of places. And pretty much every single time there's nothing but "victims". Both parties want to press charges and line up an array of witnesses that are happily willing to testify in favor of whoever names them. Your IR is getting longer and longer with every single question asked, let alone answered. Dispatch take forever to provide you with an IR or case-number... And so on... And you know very well this is going to happen again tomorrow. And you're only one day in your Four-Ten's week... Wouldn't you develop some sort of aversion against those hardly trained wannabe-cops? I'm a volunteer for a local PD and I get to talk a lot with officers about what they think of security guards, And usually they're making a pretty good case against them. Poorly trained, often overly motivated and always underpaid people are causing extra work - usually for no good reason. So yes, I do get it. I wish there would be some "tier-system" in place that determines people with the bare-minimum requirements apart from those who have more to show. I have a sentry officer in my district, who's a retired TN State Trooper. He's working at an apartment house complex. And "naturally" he's got his ducks in a row. I got others who do a great job on keeping the lid on things. And then I got some who aren't worth their money at all. Yet - technically - they all (including myself) have the exact same qualifications to work in Security. The 21 year old college drop-out, the 30 year in service, honorably discharged retired LEO, the veteran with several deployments under his belt and the former accountant doing his retirement gig, we all have the exact same qualification in the eye of the State. And we all get judged by the same criteria like the part-time bouncer working at "Freddy's Sport's Bar and Grill", "Hollywood Gentlemen's Club", "Wal-Mart", or whatever. So I don't hold it against any LEO when they treat us with noticeable disrespect. They can't know where one's coming from. They can only assume that all you ever did to get into this uniform was a half-hearted day of reading some elementary-school appropriate worded learning material and passing an open-book test that a mentally challenged monkey would pass with one arm tied to his back.
Jake Curley Security is just to observe and report, though. I do it currently and I like that I don't have any "real" responsibility. I'd never become a cop because it's just too dangerous. Like, guy said in the video "people will do anything to get away, which makes them dangerous". Not going to risk my life and have my family lose me over ego, money, or anything other than protecting THEM from danger. I am considering becoming a corrections officer though. Same pay and benefits with much less of the risk. I think... Or close at least.
Man you are so right I was in law enforcement for over 8 years and I know exactly what you talkin about. For example in the detention you have detention officer or correctional officers treat security guards with no respect and then you have regular police officers treating Detention officers like crap and thinking they are better than them and then you have agents wear civilian clothes treat police officers who wear uniforms like crap on top of that you have special agents like for example FBI treat regular agents like crap and so on and on and on. I know exactly what you're talking about and you are 100% right
Most of my annoyance are cops automatically assuming that because I’m a security guard, that I must be a wannabe or some shit. Not asking for respect, but some basic goddamn courtesy.
Security guard here. Idgaf about being a cop, you go ahead and knock yourself out if you wanna do that. Sign this, park over there, don't piddlefart around, gtf outta here I got shit to do. I don't wanna hear your home drama I ain't Dr. Phil.
Yuup Shit happens like that. But security alot of the times are working alone with no “back up” and still do the damn job in dangerous areas versus others that need back with multiple units 👮♀️👮 backing them up and we (security) are the chumps that get *paid chicken feed.
I did the same as another poster mentioned. Night Security at a Natl Guard Aviation unit. Had to make a round every hour. Did my homework while getting paid for it with no distractions.
@@markgrehan3726 not a guard anymore but it pretty calm. Just had to do escort like 2 or 3 times every 6 months or so. Most I ever had happen was when I had a bear and her Cubs wandering around the property when I was doing my rounds. They didn't excuse me from doing the rest of my rounds either lol even though we were unarmed
@@MrShanepace Eeek you are a braver man than me I would have been watching them from the safety of a locked C.C.T.V room. Stay safe and good luck in your current job
@@markgrehan3726 I was constantly chasing off coyotes and stuff there. I only had to work that site once a week though so it wasn't a big deal. Thanks for wishing me luck on this job but I have been here for 2 years now lol
Something else to consider: a lot of security companies don’t train people for shit. Ive done all type of security, bars, clubs, private, for the city etc, bad and nice areas. But in my experiences, it seems like all you need is a heartbeat to get hired. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told to tackle people or go towards gunfire, while being paid $9-$11 an hour. No thanks. No badge, no gun, no taser = not following gunfire.
Exactly! I've been insinuated as being a coward before for not running towards and breaking up 3 guys fighting with knives and a syringe behind an E.R., by myself, in a gang neighborhood with nothing more than a key ring on my belt loop for 10 dollars an hour. TBH Security guards shouldn't even be working at hospitals with all the violence we have here! We should be replaced by Police or Police Authority. And when my Boss asked in an angry tone why I didnt go out there? "Im fully licensed to carry a service pistol, mace, and a baton. Allow me to wear my vest and the rest and i'll gladly go and see to the best of my ability every threat is stopped, detained and or medically treated for their wounds. If not all i'm doing is locking the doors and waiting for everyone to be dead or ran off by other gangsters. I still have my job luckily enough after that thankfully; and it hurts to have to say it, but its the truth. No gear? No go!
Exactly. ..minimum $25 hour with benefits if you have to risk bodily harm . Minimum wage is OK for the observe and report types, hence your retired, obese and half handicap guards. See em every where .
My advice would be to forget you're wearing the uniform. Approach ALL people as though you are wearing regular clothes and argue your case from there. People can intuit that you are being straight with them and it will go easier for you.
I use to be a security guard. All I did was sit around and sometimes walk around. It was boring. Its a good job if you enjoy doing nothing and you like to read. lol
Jaw Tooth nah I read Jurassic Park .. And It was awesome .. and I popped all my adders and threw rocks at the cleaning ladies ... They thought it was just a white man thing ... So it was cool . LOTS KF WALKING AND LOTS OF FUCKING random note taking on THE YARDS EQUIPMENT... Grey Wolf, fuckin Frac Yard
It all depends what site you're put on. Where I work there is something every day. Never fails. I've responded from something as simple as a drunk and disorderly to a kidnapping and everything in between. The job isn't boring bro, you just had a boring site.
Im watching this video and reading your comment while sitting on my ass at work lol.. My job is to call the Cops if the alarm goes off.. Funny thing is the alarm company calls the Cops automatically anyways lol. Observe and Report
@Jakob Lazo it is something i enjoy. sorry i am doing something that hurts you from doing illegal activites. how about you stop stealing stuff. and then i wont have a job ;)
I'm in Corporate Security and the company I work for is run by former Oklahoma State Troopers. We're armed and work at nice places. If you want to do security make sure the job is a good one and not a shitty one making $9.00/hr and you're risking your life.
+The Last Liberal, it depends a great deal on the state you're located in. Around here, you don't need a license if you're working directly for the owner. Otherwise, it's like a one day class. In other states, like Alaska, the requirements are much higher. Security work varies between awesome and mind-numbingly boring though. But, sometimes you get to enforce the rules against a CEO, which is pretty awesome.
gerardo aguirre Get certified and trained in the state you live in. I live in Oklahoma and the training was two weeks and it took about a week to get the background check done and get my CLEET License. CLEET stands for Council on Law Enforcement Education and Training.
campus security isn't too bad for $9.00/hr, but an armed security for 9-11/hr like a lot of these Money Transporters (Im looking at you Lumus...) is not worth the risk. BUT they are a good starting point to say "I have security experience for x years" when filling out an application for a much better paying and often times less dangerous security job.
Despite the negativity cops receive on social media because of police brutality etc. you can clearly see the difference in discipline between cops and security guards. Security guards tend to lose their tempers much quicker than a cop would. Cops also seem to be a lot more reasonable and usually know their boundaries, something security guards oftentimes do not.
i feel like hospital is a lot different than other types of security work though as you have more detaining authority based off of a medical diagnosis by a dr. and it’s generally a more controlled environment.
I love being a guard. Fortunately I wear body armor and am armed when i work. I pray for all the guards out there in bad areas that are un-armed. We need more channels that feature security. I enjoy your channel a lot. It inspired me to create my own. Keep up the good work.
Not if we are armed hired to protect. Some of us even do body guard work. Example: armed guard at a bank being robbed. (A high chance he might shoot the robber)
There are many different levels of people who work in the security industry be that computer security, private contractors, Executive protection, private patrol officers, loss prevention, Armed Guards and unarmed watchmen. The function of anyone in uniformed security services is to protect their clients assets be that people, property and reputation. What is expected be that make arrest or observe and report is a product of both the client/company policy and good common sense. The first police department was established in 1829, Guards/night watch date back thousands of years before the first police department was established.
@@Graymanone My comment was about "Security Officer", which I was one for years. The mantra drilled into us was that our job was to observe and report.
As odd as this may sound I work as an armed security guard for the city of San Bernardino under contract with the police department. We handle all of the mundane stuff that the police department does not have time for. We patrol numerous city properties in a marked unit looking for anything from loitering to sexual activity on the properties. We mostly deal with homeless people trying to set up camp for the night. And we are armed with a sidearm, level 4 plates in a carrier, baton, pepper spray, taser and body cam. We are absolutely an extra set of eyes for the department but far from getting ourselves into a situation over our heads. Why? Because we use ours. I've personally seen lazy, stupid security guards, lazy and stupid police officers and also extremely smart security guards and police officers that have a sense of humor and duty. Just because someone wears a guard uniform does not automatically mean a low I.Q. conversely just because someone wears a police uniform does not mean a high I.Q. I happen to be a former aerospace worker that had his company close a division after twenty two years. As a specialist in electron beam evaporators and plasma sputtering systems it's difficult to find a job in my field of expertise in California as a lot of semiconductor production fabs have moved out of the state. I've definitely had to master the art of verbal judo for this job and have seen things that are almost beyond description. No matter what you do be safe out there and have a good day/night.
I've been a guard for 15 yeas. My other jobs are in IT and computer sciences. But I have a passion for security. I'd rather be doing that. And trust me, I stay busy.
When police come I immediately stay out of their way and let them do their job. It's their job to take care of the suspects not ours. I just answer the questions that they may ask me.
I was Armed Security and worked in the hood in PG County Maryland. I was getting more action and lockups than the Local Police Department. I was fully armed with a bullet proof vest, firearm, taser, body camera, pepper spray, etc. Detaining, tackling, chasing people for theft, assault, shootings/stabbings, PCP, crack, marijuana. I bled, got covered in bodily fluids and sweat everyday at my job. Yet because I have "security" on my application people throw it out and think shit of it a lot of the times. Yet I had civilians coming to my area turning in evidence because they thought my partner and I were the local police.
I used to work for an armored car company. We knew where we stood and we didn't deal with people at all. We were technically security guards, but we called ourselves armed delivery people. And we called unarmed security guards paid hostages.
Ha! 😁 my good friend & ex co worker in PA does armed bank truck work. He packs a .357magnum & says he can get a lot of OT. His firm just got picked up by Brinks. He says many guards quit or change jobs. The pay is low for what he does.
I agree with most of your points here. Now as a former "security company owner" there are some gray areas. For instance, my company assisted in over 1500+ arrests and nearly 87% conviction rate on our 4 properties spanning from Clayton to Cobb counties in a 2 year span. 20+ retired military men and women all agreed on the same thing, WE ALL WANT TO GO HOME TO OUR FAMILIES. Keep doing what you do 401, we got your 6.
The68VeeDub so are you saying where you live there is no such thing as citizens arrest? that's all of an arrest security has. If citizen arrests exists then as a security guard you have the same powers of arrest as anyone else. In Canada security can only do citizen arrests, unless you are licensed to carry and use handcuffs then you're one step higher but even with handcuffs you can only make a citizens arrest. However security is always the eyes and ears for police first. Most important roles in security are 1/ Customer service 2/observe 3/ and report 4/ when and if possible call the police 5/ when not able to call the police right away you have the right to protect yourself and make a citizen arrest and if you have AST handcuffs are allowed. In my 10 yrs. of security I have probably used restraints 10 x.
Asoka Mano No in the state of NC you can not lay a hand on someone. A citizens arrest in NC by a security guard is simply telling the suspect to stay put. I've been working security full time for 7 years. We have no arrest powers we are citizens. If the client wants you to hold the suspect in handcuffs then you may do so but only when they request you to do so, same goes for strip searches. It's different in every state.
Mugabe Bakulu Baka I agree for the most part. There are probably security guards in Los Angeles that work apartment complexes that have to chase down and handcuff people more than some police do.
I've done private sector & public service security work for 24yr+. Most business or factory places need security for insurance/zoning reasons. If they could buy DV or alarm systems they would. 🙄... many retail & bar owners have security or off duty LE officers to avoid law suits or bad PR. A rough crowd or constant 911 calls can close a business.
I'm a high school student and im a security officer, im a cadet at my local sheriffs office and I am taking classes for criminal justice, my dream job is to be a cop one day, I will be the first cop in my family and the first to graduate from school. I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I feel a calling to help others
@@Cocozen he said he was literally in high school, so I’m not sure why your making a smartass reply about wether or not I heard of GED’s when it is literally irrelevant to the response. I guess.
I'm a Security officer and understand what you are saying. But I am armed and have had training in sheriff dept and Military police. All Security is not gung ho about the job. I have lots of friends on the local force here and they respect me for the job i do and how i handle incidents and I assist them as well. I guess it boils down to experience, education, and awareness.I only wish we received more respect.
I agree to your wish about more respect. It just gets frustrating if even some of the people you are actually tasked with protecting couldn't care less about you. Still I like the job despite the lack of respect and the shitty pay in this country...
Thanks for info. I have been doing security for almost 20 years. You get to learn a lot about human nature. nothing surprises no more about what I have dealt with.
Lol the sad part about that commercial is that its actually true most security company's don't let us do nothing because they're scared of lawsuits security officers are just for show for the most part but shhhhh don't let the bad guys know
That's true in mosts states, however, liability policies with most contract security companies prevent most of them doing much more than calling the police. Security ends up being professional witnesses for the most part.
As someone who works in private security, it makes me happy to hear from someone who understands how shit is. Incidentally got to wrestle down a drunk, pcp fueled psycho for the first time at work last week. That was interesting.
I appreciate the respect 401. As an armed security guard I've been shot at more times than most cops in my area. It's nice to know that not every cop out there thinks we're like every other Barney Fife security guard...
FAXITY GAMING i would be interested in knowing what the actual difference is besides the name. were i live every cop is a cop on national level nothing is above or below.
FAXITY GAMING Fbi have top clearance, usually work a lot of hours a week but a cop could to depending on the department, usually work on big investigation and operate in big cities. Their primary goal is to stop terrorists basically. Cops are like first responders. Like you wouldn't call the fbi for a break in unless it turned into like a mass homicide then the fbi could possibly get involved. And then just like the military, the fbi get shipped to different stations around the world. I want to join the fbi but you have to be 23 and up to even start the process. Look it up, it's an interesting topic and i would still love to see a vid about it.
I stumbled upon your channel recently and I've been enjoying your videos ever since. I did 20 yrs in the TX prison system for being an angry kid. I got locked up at the immature age of 20, and walked out of prison at the much more mature age of 40. I said all of that just to say that I respect all law enforcement, and know that your job is extremely important, and just as necessary. I do everything possible today to NOT add to the difficulty of your mission... I'm a prison minister today and go into the prison system to effect change in the Prisoners lives so that when they are released, they no longer create problems for the Brothers in Blue. It's my way of making amends, and giving back to the community. Anyway, much respect to you, sir...keep up the great work! Godspeed.
I've been working in security for over 30 years. When I first started, I was working in the Chicago area. 99% of the sites I worked required armed security. Now, I work in Michigan, and most of the work here is unarmed. At my age, I'm more than ready for the dull boring part of it. I have seen the typical stereo type, "wanna be." They are always out there. Hopefully, they are not all that numerous. I also think we get a bad rap from TV shows that make us ALL look like "wanna be cops." Which is usually not the case. Just want to add, I love your vlogs. Keep up the good work.
I worked for several years as a Security Guard - and I loved it! I was the Bee's Knees! My uniform was tailored, crisp and starched every day, my duty belt was basket-weave and shiny and and always well equipped. My gig-line was immaculate at all times. I carried the best stuff one could possibly afford. I knew all policies by heart. My reports went on for pages, even if nothing at all had happened (and yes, nothing ever happened). My co-workers called me "Robocop"! (Behind my back they probably called me "Paul Blart") *lol* This job was no challenge whatsoever. I had exhausted literally every training that was available for Security in my state of California. I had everything: Guard Card (naturally plus all available "voluntary" and "refresher" courses), Pepper Spray Permit, Baton Permit, Taser Certification, Exposed Firearm Permit, First Aid, Infant and Adult CPR, AED, etc., etc... I signed up for "Citizens Police Academies"and became a volunteer for two(!) Police Departments in our area, taking part in Scenario Training, DUI-checkpoints, Ride-A-Longs, Report Writing training, "Shoot/No Shoot" training and what not. But all that didn't cut it for me... So I decided, I should allow myself to a bit more of a challenge. I quit my job and joined the real Police Academy. It took me over two years and three attempts until I finally got my pretty Certificate, I had paid for everything by myself and then I applied with a major PD. I made it all the way through the written and psychological tests, the polygraph and even the department interview - just to find out, that my eyes' depth-perception wasn't good enough. (I'm friggin' old...) By that time I was seriously broke and needed a job - any job. So I went back to Security. This time as a Patrol Security with another company. Meaning patrolling predominantly residential properties and the occasional commercial/industrial client-site. And guess what? I love this job! It's awesome! I get to play with all the good toys (we drive HEMI-Chargers, CVPI's, PUV's, etc...). I get to use all the 10- and 9- Codes I had to learn for the academy, the Penal Codes, etc..., just to be able to communicate with our dispatch. My colleagues are mostly retired or active (Reserves / Off Duty) LEO's, or academy graduates, waiting to be picked up by a department. What makes the difference(!) is that we all know that we're working in Security - not Law Enforcement! My job is to observe and report. That's all my job description includes. I do not have to risk my life for anybody. If I see someone being assaulted - all I have to do, is to log it in my report. That's why we get paid about one third (or less) of what a cop would get. Nobody can really blame us for not intervening. On the other hand, I've invested well over $15,000 in my training, spent 8+ months in the academy, got yelled at and my ass slapped around there. I was No. 1 academically (not physically though - hell no...) And after all that, my official credentials identify me as yet another "Security Guard" - just like that 21-something years old kid that simply wants to make some extra Bucks through summer - or that otherwise totally unqualified old dude, who sits in a guard shack all night long - or that hyper aggressive sucker, who's working as head-bouncer at the strip-club down the street. I'm 100% cool with that! I lacked the physical ability to become a real cop - and yes, that's sad, but I'll have to - and I can - live with it. Let's face it: Officer 401 himself stated in another video that he's more or less color-blind. He wouldn't have any chance to become a LEO here in California. I am honestly happy for him that his State has different criteria! Seriously! (Maybe I should move to Georgia or so... *lol*) We have a standing ("Sentry") guard, who's working at an apartment house complex. He's older and a retired Tennessee State Trooper and making $2.50 less than me per hour... He loves the job and he's having a great time. Isn't that all that matters? Ok, so I guess I'm writing a lot, most likely too much. Sorry for that! .... Comes with the Job - up to over 20 full length reports (DAR's + IR's, etc,..) every night... ;) What I originally wanted to say is that "Security" isn't always the same. It does not mean a specific range of duties. Sometimes it means just a squishy job of sitting in a guard shack, waiting until you can go home. sometimes it means proactive and reactive patrolling, becoming a first responder, pulling injured people from car-wrecks, breaking up fights, throwing out disruptive and intoxicated people, saving lives, protecting lives and property (i.e. the first paragraph of the Law Enforcement Code of Ethics)... The difference is: We do not HAVE to! But as a citizen with values you somewhat still do - even if you're not getting paid accordingly, However: To all those people n Security out there, who want to be able to be more than just a warm body: Improve your skills!!! Get all the training you can possibly get. Chances are, you will need it one day. You are the first on site. Don't be that sucker who didn't know what to do! It will bite you in the ass for the rest of your life. And do not think that you are some sort of a superhero just because you got more training than others - that would be even worse, Do what you got to do - But know what you are doing - and be able to articulate WHY you did it!
Westcoast Auditors Oregon Chapter/CopBlock so on your channel you like to fuck with the police, but then you come support a police channel...... makes sense.
Sheepdog 46 officer401 is real as fuck, he gives what he gets, i respect that, he is down to earth and he honors his oath to the Constitution, i support any officer like him
Westcoast Auditors Oregon Chapter/CopBlock see you feel that way because you actually listen to him and aren't dealing with him on the street. you feel that way about him but dont realize that many other officer have the same outlook and attitude as he does. you would know that if you would speak with officers, and listen to what they have to say instead of shoving a camera in their face and telling them its your right to film. and it is your right, but most of you guys are just total dicks about it.
Sheepdog 46 perhaps stereotyping is not the best option, have you met him? If not, you may not know what he does, or how he acts. I realize a lot of copwatch people are dicks to law enforcement, but the converse is also true. Don't prejudge. And by the way I'm not necessarily defending him, I don't know any more thAn you do, but he's here listening to an AWESOME cops vlog. If he's been a dick, maybe he will see that a lot of cops are regular guys trying to do their job, just like the rest of us.
I think the best way to see it is this Cops get to the scene after the incident Security are the guys qho are there before Both cover eachother very well
The problem with your security guard friend tackling people shoplifting these days is he's a civilian. He can't legally use force unless its in self defense. Especially with all of the BLM and anti-authority movements, all it takes is one lawsuit to ruin you. I've worked armed security, and armored car. If it's not my life or anyone else's life in danger, I'm not taking the risk of criminal charges for pursuing a non-violent criminal. Now, I'll still run out to get a detailed description of the vehicle they leave in, and give responding police officers the best possible information. But, I'm not going to go hands on or use force with anyone that isn't being violent. If I were unarmed, I would probably not go hands on at all unless it was absolutely necessary. The climate in security and law enforcement is just too heated to take those risks anymore.
Freddie did you learn your knowledge of private security? from a TV show? security guards are agents of the owner and have the athority of the owner, so like the police it all depends on the policy of the post and your company how and when to use force. As far as the law goes if the law states a property owner can use force to protect life and property then so can his agents.
There's a big difference between wannabes and usedtobes. Most retired ex-cop usedtobes have more experience, training and a better resume than the average cop.
Currently work as security in a hospital, pretty cool job. It kicks off enough for it to be interesting sometimes but its calm enough where i can do homework and stuff.
I worked security for a couple years after the Marine Corps. Started unarmed in a freaking movie theater. Perk was watching movies lol then went to clubs with the same company. That was fun. We had to break up fights nightly. We always ended up in fist fights ourselves it was that rough. Then went to an armed contract with the company. Even had a patrol rifle. Lol local law enforcement hated us over it. Lol
Florida passed medical weed. 😉... I think the rise of new clinics & shops in urban areas will lead to more armed security openings: $15/18/20.00 per hour. 😁...
I am an armed security guard and have been for almost 15 years now. I appreciate your comments and support of security guards it is honestly refreshing. I do however have something I would like to add the thing that irritates me the most is when people say well you can't do much. An example of this is we do security for a bank and while it's nice to think that pd will be close by if an alarm goes off in the moment all you have is an armed guard in the way of a robber and they will target you first as you are the biggest threat. Sometimes we have to make a hard call before help can get to us and it's these moments where you are just a guard hurts the most because sometimes we aren't we are first line defense before help can arrive. I know this was long and again thank you for the respect I hope this finds you well and be safe out there
kiryto kiry In our company unless someone is in physical harm we wait for PD. We only jump in if the person is already committing violence on someone else or property is being damaged or stolen right in front of us. Otherwise let PD handle it, it looks better when you don't have to go to court.
Bob Dohughboiz That's not 100%, Security Laws are state not federal. If you have an HR then you are probably working for a huge company and they aren't going to want you to get involved because they would prefer to lose the contract over ending up in court. Smaller companies can't afford to lose a contract and will expect you to get involved. I'd ask your management but use common sense. Remember the officer worked with a Security Guard who cuffed people for stealing food so it isn't illegal but no reason to do anything stupid either.
+Bob Dohughboiz yea my company is pretty small we don't have a hr really but they have us pretty hands on most of the time only rule no clearing building
well thats subjective, while on client property, you have a duty to enforce not only the client rules, but also state and local laws, i wouldnt go out of your way but if the situation arises you need to be ready to take that action. im kinda questioning the training you have received, it should have clearly gone over what you can and cannot do. it should have also gone into a lot of detail with use of force, and how to CYA, in the event you decied to get involved in a situation. my other question is did they even first aid/cpr certify you before giving you a full loadout ?
I am an armed Security Officer an I just stopped by to say thank you for your support. There are some of us who would like to join law enforcement it’s just harder for some of us than others. Once again thank you and be safe.
I think it really depends on the type of "security guard". A couple Marines I served with went into fairly high level private & personal security. (They knew somebody who knew somebody, who wanted to hire Marines specifically) They get paid a lot more than entry level police officers, they are armed, and they either do corporate, transportation, or VIP security. They aren't mall cops, they hang out in strip clubs with NBA players, ride shotgun with diamond or platinum couriers, or go on shopping trips with visiting musicians, etc. Basically, they are the big guys in sunglasses you see in the background of paparazzi photos. Sometimes they work an event, like a concert, sometimes it's a person they chauffeur and protect. I've never heard any of them say they want to become a police officer, because honestly the jobs sounds less risky, higher paid, and more interesting. (I'm sure being a cop is crazy interesting, but does it compare to protecting Shania Twain one weekend and some Italian executive the next?)
EP agents or protection details, close protection is widely considered different from regular security work or loss prevention. Real professionals or tier one military guys know what & where to get skill training, jobs... 😎🚔👮♂️😉
odds are you'd just be going slow compared to the rest of traffic and not really in violation of the law. an officer might ask what's going on and figure out that you were using kph not mph then tell you that, but there shouldn't be any real problem with it.
Thank you! Because my friend got pulled over in SF, in some highway I don't remember which one exactly, he said cop pulled him over because he was going too slow in the left lane, after that the issue was solved peacefully but it got me curious. :)
Then he got pulled over because he was in the left lane. Here in the US, the left lane is supposed to be used only for passing other cars or if your exit is on the left side of the road.
As someone who grew up in a military and police family I appreciate your views on a lot of things and I just wanted to say thank you for being able to explain the differences between the two. I knew I would not be able to handle either the force or the service and before I became a nurse I went into security because I wanted to help people. Security will always work to prevent wrongdoing and when we fail, our police will be there to right those wrongs. I thank you with all my heart for what you do and none of the bad interactions I have had with misguided officers will ever taint my view of those who serve with others in their hearts. Thank you for caring enough about others to put your life on the line for those of us who cannot. With the utmost respect! Floyd
As a security guard I agree with this video. In Canada security guard's with AST (Advanced Security Training) can carry and use handcuffs only if they really need to. I have my AST and had to handcuff someone today (thankfull It's not to often I have to). I have a question when security handcuffs someone are police legally without your consent allowed to keep yours and give you their old shitty pair ? They took my nice fairly new cuffs and refused to give them back to me, instead I got a pair of old ,used up, shitty ones.
We deal with the bad guy before cops shoe up. We fight fires before firefighters show up. We do cpr and aed before EMTs show up. We are the first target of gunmen and robbers. We (on average) can't carry batons, tazers, handcuffs, or guns. We hafta do a cops job without the equipment or authority.
Umm, no "we" do not have to do a cops job. And in most cases where a Security Guard thinks they have to do a cops job they will end up either on a gurney in a coffin or - most likely - being fired. Yes "we" are often the "first responders", simply because we're geographically there. But it does not necessarily mean that we need to interfere. There may be situations were lives are at stake and hell yeah, first aid, CPR, AED-use, etc. may become inevitable in order to save someone's life. But seriously? How often does that actually happen? I am a Police academy graduate, working as an armed patrol security guard. I'm driving PUV's, Crown Vics, Chargers, etc., whatever gets assigned to me for the shift. Our vehicles are equipped with everything except for the red&blue emergency lights. I'm carrying a gun, a Taser, a baton, two sets of handcuffs, and what not. But I'm still not law enforcement. All those means are predominantly meant for self-defense. And yes, occasionally I arrest people, but - and that's the huge difference to law enforcement - I don't have to. The "public" does not expect me to do a Cops job and if I (or should I) decide to not take action, I can not be blamed for it. My job is to "Observe and Report". If I back out of a situation, nobody can blame me. And therefore I'm only getting paid 25-40% of a "real" Cops wage. And that's totally fair! If I determine a situation to potentially being or becoming dangerous, I call our dispatch and have the guys in blue deal with it. It's probably way outside my pay-grade and well inside theirs. Never forget: Time is on your side! There's no need to expose yourself to any dangers at all! If you hear a damsel in distress calling for help and you decide to throw your life on the line, well: More power to you! But that's your call. And better be sure about what you're doing, so that you don't make everything worse. K? Know what you are and be proud of it. There's nothing wrong with it at all! But please do not assume that anyone of us is doing a Cops job. It's simply not the case.
Jake Curley are you sure you don't work in a cushy little Gatehouse and some nice community? Because I've worked in Section 8 apartment complexes armed all the way up to clubs and bouncing. So don't tell me we don't have to do the job of cops sometimes.
As a matter of fact I'm telling you exactly that: We don't have to! And that's the point. We (Security) are not LE and those security guards, who believe that there's only a marginal difference between Security- and Police-work, are exactly the ones who put Security in a bad light - especially with the cops, but also the general public. And again: Sure, we are often the first responders. That's a given.
Well said partner, I was your tipical young low pay security guard at the door at Toys R' Us, before becoming a Federal Agent.. and as much as I looked forward to becoming a Fed while I was still a guard, I also did looked back and appreciated all I learned and went through as a simple guard, when I finally became a Fed. It's always about what's in someone's heart!
Right now I’m 18, and I work security for a college. I really only got the job to kinda “get my foot in the door” to be a police officer. Still have to wait a few years before I can go to the academy but I’m really hoping it works out for me 🤷🏻♂️
I've been a security guard for two years. Where I work I don't anything other than sit down an look pretty. 😂 But I know where I stand as for as my job description goes. To my security brothers and sisters. Y'all stay safe.
I'm actually trying to get a job as a healthcare security officer so this video was interesting to watch. I'm only 18 and it'll be my first actual job. I'm hoping to stay in this job for a while and then go onto actual police officer later on and this seems like a safer starting area lol
Just some words of advice, from somebody who has been in the industry the past say three years or so, the nature of this job is not safe, I'm from England, you might be better off, but we can potentially face the same risks as the Police here, with violent people, those with a criminal history, & situations involving conflict, yet we have none of the same protection as them no pepper spray, no baton, no tazer, no stab proof vest (least not in my company) and to top that off, most of us really just learn on the job, the training I have received has been minimal (from SIA) most of the skills that I have are from something totally different, but not everybody is lucky enough to go through that, all I'm saying is, please be aware of the fact, from the start, that you may get in to one or two dangerous situations.
I understand that there are risks and it could be very dangerous at times. I didn't mean it to sound as if it's the safest thing ever. A police officer has to go into a situation that they know could be dangerous (domestic disputes, robberies, stuff like that). Compared to that in my opinion, only having 1 building to look after that may not even actually need guards is safer because there could be the possibility that as I'm working as a healthcare security guard, I may NEVER have anything bad unless a patient decides to have a psychotic break and attack a doctor.
Gamefreak Gamefreak I've been doing hospital security for 3 years now, just started doing LEO school. Hospital security is probably the best to get into, don't go contract go in house (corporate) contract you'll make like 11 bucks an hour and hate your life and in house you'll be making almost 20 an hour. There's really nothing dangerous about it, we have multiple officers who work the floor and we have a great dispatching center who can get police or EMS to you in minutes. in house security you'll get everything police get besides a gun. The free $600 vest is great. Coming from me who's worked contract and moved in house, definitely a great way to get experience if you want to be a police officer. you'll deal with loads of different problems and have to hold patients down and cuff people, but you should have backup most of the time. we just got rid of our last crown vic for the brand new Ford Explorer too so I'm also digging that.
Gamefreak just an FYI, I'm a volunteer firefighter working towards EMT to eventually be a wilderness EMT. My mom also happens to be a registrar in the ER. Security gets called quite often. Psych evals and combative patients are very common. Not to mention drunks and drug addicts. I've seen up to 5 security officers on one guy that couldn't keep him fully restrained in the ER.
Gamefreak I would strongly suggest choosing wisely if you decide to go into security. It is a dead end job in most cases. (I know this because I've worked it). DO NOT apply to your typical private security companies in your area. If you are going to go into security, browse around for federal security contractors that guard military facilities and things of that nature. Never worked in the hospital security field, but I would imagine it would be less of a dead end job than most security companies. Hospitals tend to pay decently too.
I am a armed security officer and supervisor and I work hand in hand with the local sheriffs department what you said in this video is something I have to remind my officers of all the time we are not law enforcement officers we are security officers and our job is different then there job
I used to be a security guard at one of the AutoZone distribution centers, and it was rediculous how serious some of the guys were like they had some kind of authority. When I started they told me if there was a conflict I wasn't alowed to do anything except call a manager out there or the police. I never took the job seriously, I always told people I was a secretary because all I did was answer the phone, and log truck drivers in and out, but I wore a security guard uniform to do that.
I'm only 18 and I have a job as a security guard. This video kinda makes me fear what would I do if there is an armed man on property? I'm not armed, and have little to no training in that...
Securitas is one of the worst companies IMO, had nothing but bad experiences with them, if there is someone on your property with a gun, book it and hide, your job is to observe and report as a level 2 guard, you're not under any obligation to intervene
I am glad you made this video. I work as an armed security guard. This position gets to a lot of people’s head. They give them a badge, and call them “officer” I have in the past intervened when I saw a cop getting his ass pounded into the pavement, and I knew his backup was several minutes away. He did thank me as he was chewing my ass for the incredibly stupid thing I did. (I may not have been so brave if I did not have a .38 revolver) Some guards get a big head about the job. But there are many who know they are just here to watch a building and people, and if things go sour to observe from a safe distance and call the real cops.
I am a Class A Liscensed Private Patrol Agent. Aka Security Guard. I'm authorized to make an arrest, when I have probable cause, and I'm on duty, at my post. I AM NOT a peace officer. That said, I am trained, equiped, and expected to intervene, before and after a violent incident. If I am doing my job right, there is no incident. But I have had to put a few guys on the ground, and put them in cuffs. I have a lot of appreciation for Police, as they make my job a possibility, and keep our streets pretty damn safe. Without KCPD, I couldn't find a job like this, and the chances of me breaking into the law emforcement career i want, later on, would be slim to none. But now, there are 3 different small PD's who want me as an officer when I turn 21. Yes, many of my colleagues are fucking retarded, and cause more harm than good. I can only hope, that more people can see it more objectively, like our kindly detective, here.
As far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong) you as a security guard do not have more authority than a regular citizen in terms of making arrests, carrying a firearm etc. If you work security for a store you're allowed to detain or make a citizen's arrest on shoplifters on behalf of the store, but making actual arrests is not something you do or are authorised to do.
I've done security for 15 years. Countless times I've had police officers talk down to me. Their body language spoke volumes. It got to a point where I just stopped calling them when something would happen. In the end I did my job.
I work for secuirty and we had new guard that was so authoritative so energetic like he's the number one go . he's the superman that everyone needs or he thinks that and got violent with one of the truck drivers cuz he didn't have his ID and starting cussing at him being tough I'm like bro what r u doing your not suppose be cussing at the drivers who do u think you are .if they don't have thier ID don't let them in simple bro . don't be starting shit lol
With all of the training done, security guards knows their job duties. When a guard messes up, it's simply a personal problem, always. I do unarmed and armed security and never had anything too bad happen. I do only what I am suppose to and always make sure I enforce the rules of the client's property and not city property. Appreciate this video ✌🏽
Ill answer this question. I would rather work the worste fu**ing ghetto with no patrol car, bike ect... walking by my lonesome than work in a jail/prison. You guys are nuts... ill pass.
In my city C/O's are sworn peace officers, they are (in a very basic sense) police, but lack the training in patrolling, and don't have emergency vehicles.
I totally understand. I'm a Security Guard and I know my job is to observe and report. Police officers job is protect and serve. Some armed Guards want to act like Police officers. But I say stay in your lane
Any breach of peace, self defense or Felony in our presence. Putting your hands on a licensed security officer lawfully performing his duty is 3rd degree misdemeanor to 1st degree Felony in florida
As an unarmed guard at a residential property I once directed LEOs to a Marine who was DUI and left the scene of two collisions on the way home. Another guard called in DV with GBI as he was horking into the landscaping (greenhorn).
overnight security is the best job if you're a college student and you can adjust yourself to the hours.
i get all my schoolwork done while getting paid.
Meri Holland I game all night on my laptop, watch movies and eat pizza - I feel like I'm 14 again every night. If it payed more I'd do it for the rest of my life. Working overnight in a sleepy factory or warehouse is the best... in a hospital not so much, I spent a while working security in a trauma center. If they don't pay $16+ it's not worth the pay, unless you enjoy someone trying to injure or kill you atleast twice a week.
Meri Holland yes I'm a security officer at the college I go to
Meri Holland I love being a security guard at night lol. I'm just doing that until I'm 21 and can become a police officer.
yes me too. I am a security guard at the college I go to. I get all my schoolwork done too my partner at work is an overzealous guard to say the least. she needs to see this video lol
It's great if you have other commitments too. I have seasonal work a couple times during the year so I've been doing seasonal security with a friends company for about 3 years. If you approach it right it's a decent, easy, and flexible job.
When I was a cop I respected anyone who wore a uniform whether military, security, corrections, dispatchers, boy scouts, etc. Now that I'm retired and do armed security work I wish I had a nickel for every patrolman who has given me the 2nd class treatment. I see them doing it to their fellow correctional officers also. It seems worse in some parts of the country than in others.
Steve, I have co-workers who are retired LE, many are active reserves, a lot are academy graduates in the process with one or more departments. I am a POST-certified academy graduate myself and a volunteer for a local PD. And I do get it why many LEO's are treating security guards/officers/rent-a-cops/wannabe's, whatever... the way they do.
Just last night I had to chew off an ear or two off of one of my standing officers, because he didn't do his job right. I went through some of his reports and they were literally copy/pastes every single hour's entry. He's working at a property that gets a lot of trespassers, drug use, vandalism, etc. He doesn't see, hear or smell anything. He's a good guy, but his performance simply sucks. He's not physically fit, his reports are - as mentioned above - below par and he he's not doing anything to improve his situation.
There are too many people working in security who are just like him. And these people are dragging down the reputation of all those who really care about their job and deliver.
Now, that's one point. People like him do not help in any way to improve the reputation of security personnel.
Next: What do many Cops experience? Overzealous, over-eager, people who actually do believe that wearing a uniform and some fantasy-badge makes the somehow something like a Cop. A lot of these people have nothing to show but the most basic security training, meaning a simple, open-book-test that literally an untrained monkey could pass with ease. I don't want to come across rude and/or disrespectful, but an open-book test? Seriously?
Next thing is: Cops often get called to more or less questionable citizen's arrests conducted by such security guards. The tests to become a security guard do not incorporate any significant knowledge about laws. Basically a few constitutional aspects are mentioned (which do not apply to private security anyway).
Then: Some bouncer of a bar, wearing a tank-top and baggy pants, has the exact same qualification as the mall-cop next door and the patrol officer rolling down the street in his decked out vehicle who's carrying a gun, Taser, etc... No distinction is being made between them. Legally they're all the same...
Now imagine yourself as LEO being called to some shady bar and maybe thirty minutes before you go 10-7, because their head-bouncer decided that some drunk kid deserved to be beat up for no other reason than being a dick. You might have some reports to finish and hate the thought of spending another hour at the station with paperwork. And yet you got that call jut because of some "security guard's" damaged ego.
And let's say that happens like every other day at a variety of places.
And pretty much every single time there's nothing but "victims". Both parties want to press charges and line up an array of witnesses that are happily willing to testify in favor of whoever names them. Your IR is getting longer and longer with every single question asked, let alone answered. Dispatch take forever to provide you with an IR or case-number... And so on...
And you know very well this is going to happen again tomorrow. And you're only one day in your Four-Ten's week...
Wouldn't you develop some sort of aversion against those hardly trained wannabe-cops?
I'm a volunteer for a local PD and I get to talk a lot with officers about what they think of security guards, And usually they're making a pretty good case against them. Poorly trained, often overly motivated and always underpaid people are causing extra work - usually for no good reason. So yes, I do get it.
I wish there would be some "tier-system" in place that determines people with the bare-minimum requirements apart from those who have more to show. I have a sentry officer in my district, who's a retired TN State Trooper. He's working at an apartment house complex. And "naturally" he's got his ducks in a row. I got others who do a great job on keeping the lid on things. And then I got some who aren't worth their money at all.
Yet - technically - they all (including myself) have the exact same qualifications to work in Security. The 21 year old college drop-out, the 30 year in service, honorably discharged retired LEO, the veteran with several deployments under his belt and the former accountant doing his retirement gig, we all have the exact same qualification in the eye of the State. And we all get judged by the same criteria like the part-time bouncer working at "Freddy's Sport's Bar and Grill", "Hollywood Gentlemen's Club", "Wal-Mart", or whatever.
So I don't hold it against any LEO when they treat us with noticeable disrespect. They can't know where one's coming from. They can only assume that all you ever did to get into this uniform was a half-hearted day of reading some elementary-school appropriate worded learning material and passing an open-book test that a mentally challenged monkey would pass with one arm tied to his back.
Jake Curley Security is just to observe and report, though. I do it currently and I like that I don't have any "real" responsibility. I'd never become a cop because it's just too dangerous. Like, guy said in the video "people will do anything to get away, which makes them dangerous". Not going to risk my life and have my family lose me over ego, money, or anything other than protecting THEM from danger. I am considering becoming a corrections officer though. Same pay and benefits with much less of the risk. I think... Or close at least.
Jake Curley Nevermind, I just looked it up and starting out for both Sheriff's Deputies make $10/hour more. Jesus, that's a lot.
Man you are so right I was in law enforcement for over 8 years and I know exactly what you talkin about. For example in the detention you have detention officer or correctional officers treat security guards with no respect and then you have regular police officers treating Detention officers like crap and thinking they are better than them and then you have agents wear civilian clothes treat police officers who wear uniforms like crap on top of that you have special agents like for example FBI treat regular agents like crap and so on and on and on. I know exactly what you're talking about and you are 100% right
If you officers can’t treat each other with respect how on earth do you expect civilians to treat you with respect ✊🏽✊✊🏻✊🏼✊🏾✊🏿
Most of my annoyance are cops automatically assuming that because I’m a security guard, that I must be a wannabe or some shit.
Not asking for respect, but some basic goddamn courtesy.
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@Eastern hall Jonn And who are the "we?"
@Eastern hall Jonn That depends on the security officer. 😏
Security guard here.
Idgaf about being a cop, you go ahead and knock yourself out if you wanna do that.
Sign this, park over there, don't piddlefart around, gtf outta here I got shit to do. I don't wanna hear your home drama I ain't Dr. Phil.
Yuup Shit happens like that. But security alot of the times are working alone with no “back up” and still do the damn job in dangerous areas versus others that need back with multiple units 👮♀️👮 backing them up and we (security) are the chumps that get *paid chicken feed.
After serving in the Marines I went into security. I was able to get a lot of studying done and now I am starting my career in Information Technology.
it took you quite a while to find what you really like i guess. That's good news though...nice!!!
Bro this is me now.
I did the same as another poster mentioned. Night Security at a Natl Guard Aviation unit. Had to make a round every hour. Did my homework while getting paid for it with no distractions.
Doing the same now. Currently studying for cyber security certs hoping to land a job by summer
I've seen many people in security who are working their way thru college doing security work
I'm a security guard and I hate it. I'm trying to get fired by doing nothing, but that's in my job description.
I think daves idea was better. Tase the hell outta ur boss. Or just touch bosses neck while taser is activated. Should do the trick
That's exactly why I enjoyed security. No one bugged me.
Quintin Blanson dude, just quit!
LOL
Alright Dede
I'm a security guard and I'm at work as I'm watching this, shows how hard my job is lol
You've got a nice site the one I'm on is going through a spate of trespass and theft both night and day shift.
@@markgrehan3726 not a guard anymore but it pretty calm. Just had to do escort like 2 or 3 times every 6 months or so. Most I ever had happen was when I had a bear and her Cubs wandering around the property when I was doing my rounds. They didn't excuse me from doing the rest of my rounds either lol even though we were unarmed
@@MrShanepace Eeek you are a braver man than me I would have been watching them from the safety of a locked C.C.T.V room.
Stay safe and good luck in your current job
@@markgrehan3726 I was constantly chasing off coyotes and stuff there. I only had to work that site once a week though so it wasn't a big deal. Thanks for wishing me luck on this job but I have been here for 2 years now lol
@@MrShanepace :) hey I only just found out, you ran after that last coyotes two years ago and we ain't heard of you since.
Something else to consider: a lot of security companies don’t train people for shit. Ive done all type of security, bars, clubs, private, for the city etc, bad and nice areas. But in my experiences, it seems like all you need is a heartbeat to get hired. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told to tackle people or go towards gunfire, while being paid $9-$11 an hour. No thanks. No badge, no gun, no taser = not following gunfire.
Right move.
Or right not move :)
Not to mention the fact that most employers don't offer health insurance whether you carry or not
Exactly! I've been insinuated as being a coward before for not running towards and breaking up 3 guys fighting with knives and a syringe behind an E.R., by myself, in a gang neighborhood with nothing more than a key ring on my belt loop for 10 dollars an hour. TBH Security guards shouldn't even be working at hospitals with all the violence we have here! We should be replaced by Police or Police Authority.
And when my Boss asked in an angry tone why I didnt go out there? "Im fully licensed to carry a service pistol, mace, and a baton. Allow me to wear my vest and the rest and i'll gladly go and see to the best of my ability every threat is stopped, detained and or medically treated for their wounds. If not all i'm doing is locking the doors and waiting for everyone to be dead or ran off by other gangsters. I still have my job luckily enough after that thankfully; and it hurts to have to say it, but its the truth. No gear? No go!
Exactly. ..minimum $25 hour with benefits if you have to risk bodily harm . Minimum wage is OK for the observe and report types, hence your retired, obese and half handicap guards. See em every where .
My advice would be to forget you're wearing the uniform. Approach ALL people as though you are wearing regular clothes and argue your case from there. People can intuit that you are being straight with them and it will go easier for you.
I use to be a security guard. All I did was sit around and sometimes walk around. It was boring. Its a good job if you enjoy doing nothing and you like to read. lol
Jaw Tooth I feel ya I worked at SECURITAS FOR A SUMMER ... AND I BEAT OFF TO PORN HUB ALL DAY ..
Jaw Tooth nah I read Jurassic Park .. And It was awesome .. and I popped all my adders and threw rocks at the cleaning ladies ... They thought it was just a white man thing ... So it was cool . LOTS KF WALKING AND LOTS OF FUCKING random note taking on THE YARDS EQUIPMENT... Grey Wolf, fuckin Frac Yard
It all depends what site you're put on. Where I work there is something every day. Never fails. I've responded from something as simple as a drunk and disorderly to a kidnapping and everything in between. The job isn't boring bro, you just had a boring site.
Used to be a security guard too, pretty boring until I did a take down arrest with 2 other guards for bike theft.
Im watching this video and reading your comment while sitting on my ass at work lol.. My job is to call the Cops if the alarm goes off.. Funny thing is the alarm company calls the Cops automatically anyways lol. Observe and Report
Being a security guard just means being the worlds greatest witness.
atleast we are doing something with our lives bud.
@Jakob Lazo if ya do something criminal you bet i will make sure you are behind bars buddy.
@Jakob Lazo salem oregon. and you bet ill tackle you ;)
@Jakob Lazo it is something i enjoy. sorry i am doing something that hurts you from doing illegal activites. how about you stop stealing stuff. and then i wont have a job ;)
I know 1...and he is my friend...and just last night he apprehended 2 ppl....awesome work!
Shout out to us security guards out here!
Monique Mares are you a security guard?
Greetings from private security officer in Lithuania :)
Top flight security of the world Craig! Not the city but THE WORLD.
And greetings from a German security guard. Some quiet shifts to all of you.
Thank you. 25 years in private security and still on the job.
I'm in Corporate Security and the company I work for is run by former Oklahoma State Troopers. We're armed and work at nice places. If you want to do security make sure the job is a good one and not a shitty one making $9.00/hr and you're risking your life.
YOu should get in on a gig like I have, I do security for a music industry clients house, pays $25 an hour in a state where everyone makes $7.50
+The Last Liberal, it depends a great deal on the state you're located in. Around here, you don't need a license if you're working directly for the owner. Otherwise, it's like a one day class.
In other states, like Alaska, the requirements are much higher.
Security work varies between awesome and mind-numbingly boring though. But, sometimes you get to enforce the rules against a CEO, which is pretty awesome.
ryan moeller What type of education do you need to work as a armed security Guard ?
gerardo aguirre Get certified and trained in the state you live in. I live in Oklahoma and the training was two weeks and it took about a week to get the background check done and get my CLEET License. CLEET stands for Council on Law Enforcement Education and Training.
campus security isn't too bad for $9.00/hr, but an armed security for 9-11/hr like a lot of these Money Transporters (Im looking at you Lumus...) is not worth the risk.
BUT they are a good starting point to say "I have security experience for x years" when filling out an application for a much better paying and often times less dangerous security job.
Security Guards, just like any profession, shouldn't be painted with a broad brush.
The only thing that annoys me are the security guards who claim to be cops.
Stephy Sarabia your hot af
If you run into that same guard again call the cops its very illegal to impersonate officers of the law.
Despite the negativity cops receive on social media because of police brutality etc. you can clearly see the difference in discipline between cops and security guards. Security guards tend to lose their tempers much quicker than a cop would. Cops also seem to be a lot more reasonable and usually know their boundaries, something security guards oftentimes do not.
It's against the law to impersonate licensed security guards in florida
What about prior cops that became security, can we still claim it?
I work hospital security and we have a close relationship with our local PD. For the most part, they treat us with respect, so it's good
Same here I think the cops think us hospital guard are badass so they treat us with respect
i feel like hospital is a lot different than other types of security work though as you have more detaining authority based off of a medical diagnosis by a dr. and it’s generally a more controlled environment.
Not sure if you still work there, but can you tell me about your experience?
I have an interview for a security officer at my local hospital.
I love being a guard. Fortunately I wear body armor and am armed when i work. I pray for all the guards out there in bad areas that are un-armed. We need more channels that feature security. I enjoy your channel a lot. It inspired me to create my own. Keep up the good work.
When a situation arises while on duty, a Security Guard has to remember the mantra, "observe and report" and "$12 bucks an hour".
Sadly we are under paid but i still like it
I'm a S/O and make $19 been doing it for a year.
@@SilverStamp6413 where are you from? That’s a good ass pay rate
@@luispunk6695 CA had to invest $800 on getting my open carry too though
@@SilverStamp6413 in the long term tho it’s worth it congrats dude! I get paid good and weekly bias which is convenient. OT is offered as well
Security Officer duty: Observe and report.
Cop duty: Enforce the law.
Not if we are armed hired to protect. Some of us even do body guard work.
Example: armed guard at a bank being robbed. (A high chance he might shoot the robber)
@@scytheisto4418 that's Executive protection.
There are many different levels of people who work in the security industry be that computer security, private contractors, Executive protection, private patrol officers, loss prevention, Armed Guards and unarmed watchmen. The function of anyone in uniformed security services is to protect their clients assets be that people, property and reputation. What is expected be that make arrest or observe and report is a product of both the client/company policy and good common sense.
The first police department was established in 1829, Guards/night watch date back thousands of years before the first police department was established.
@@Graymanone My comment was about "Security Officer", which I was one for years. The mantra drilled into us was that our job was to observe and report.
Casino Security is a whole lot more that observe and report.
As odd as this may sound I work as an armed security guard for the city of San Bernardino under contract with the police department. We handle all of the mundane stuff that the police department does not have time for. We patrol numerous city properties in a marked unit looking for anything from loitering to sexual activity on the properties. We mostly deal with homeless people trying to set up camp for the night. And we are armed with a sidearm, level 4 plates in a carrier, baton, pepper spray, taser and body cam. We are absolutely an extra set of eyes for the department but far from getting ourselves into a situation over our heads. Why? Because we use ours. I've personally seen lazy, stupid security guards, lazy and stupid police officers and also extremely smart security guards and police officers that have a sense of humor and duty. Just because someone wears a guard uniform does not automatically mean a low I.Q. conversely just because someone wears a police uniform does not mean a high I.Q.
I happen to be a former aerospace worker that had his company close a division after twenty two years. As a specialist in electron beam evaporators and plasma sputtering systems it's difficult to find a job in my field of expertise in California as a lot of semiconductor production fabs have moved out of the state.
I've definitely had to master the art of verbal judo for this job and have seen things that are almost beyond description.
No matter what you do be safe out there and have a good day/night.
San Bernardino is awful with all the crime and homeless, the police could definitely use an extra set of eyes
san bernardino. isnt that where the police watched children getting spit on at a pres TRUMP rally and didnt do anything about it.
I've been a guard for 15 yeas. My other jobs are in IT and computer sciences. But I have a passion for security. I'd rather be doing that. And trust me, I stay busy.
When police come I immediately stay out of their way and let them do their job. It's their job to take care of the suspects not ours. I just answer the questions that they may ask me.
IDK Paul Blart is pretty good...
Ah the memories.
He's what we all aspire to be
Mostly Outdoors Paul Blart is an egotistical douchebag!
Brook No way! Paul Blart was a moron!
Darian long.
I was Armed Security and worked in the hood in PG County Maryland.
I was getting more action and lockups than the Local Police Department. I was fully armed with a bullet proof vest, firearm, taser, body camera, pepper spray, etc.
Detaining, tackling, chasing people for theft, assault, shootings/stabbings, PCP, crack, marijuana.
I bled, got covered in bodily fluids and sweat everyday at my job.
Yet because I have "security" on my application people throw it out and think shit of it a lot of the times.
Yet I had civilians coming to my area turning in evidence because they thought my partner and I were the local police.
gta 5 security guards pretty much light me up for even saying hi like wtf
We need security guards & we need cops so I'm glad we have both 💖
One of the smartest comments here. Sadly.
in security for a hotel
I used to work for an armored car company. We knew where we stood and we didn't deal with people at all. We were technically security guards, but we called ourselves armed delivery people. And we called unarmed security guards paid hostages.
Ha! 😁 my good friend & ex co worker in PA does armed bank truck work. He packs a .357magnum & says he can get a lot of OT. His firm just got picked up by Brinks. He says many guards quit or change jobs. The pay is low for what he does.
Being a security officer. I really appreciate this. Thank you!
I agree with most of your points here. Now as a former "security company owner" there are some gray areas. For instance, my company assisted in over 1500+ arrests and nearly 87% conviction rate on our 4 properties spanning from Clayton to Cobb counties in a 2 year span. 20+ retired military men and women all agreed on the same thing, WE ALL WANT TO GO HOME TO OUR FAMILIES. Keep doing what you do 401, we got your 6.
Hendryx Lawn Service are you hiring? I live in Dekalb County
Hendryx Lawn Service It depends where you live. I live in NC and as a security I have no arrest powers so basically I'm a deterrent.
The68VeeDub so are you saying where you live there is no such thing as citizens arrest? that's all of an arrest security has. If citizen arrests exists then as a security guard you have the same powers of arrest as anyone else. In Canada security can only do citizen arrests, unless you are licensed to carry and use handcuffs then you're one step higher but even with handcuffs you can only make a citizens arrest. However security is always the eyes and ears for police first. Most important roles in security are 1/ Customer service 2/observe 3/ and report 4/ when and if possible call the police 5/ when not able to call the police right away you have the right to protect yourself and make a citizen arrest and if you have AST handcuffs are allowed. In my 10 yrs. of security I have probably used restraints 10 x.
Asoka Mano No in the state of NC you can not lay a hand on someone. A citizens arrest in NC by a security guard is simply telling the suspect to stay put. I've been working security full time for 7 years. We have no arrest powers we are citizens. If the client wants you to hold the suspect in handcuffs then you may do so but only when they request you to do so, same goes for strip searches. It's different in every state.
Ga my man!
For the most part a security guard is a deterrent and eyewitness, simple as that.
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I agree for the most part. There are probably security guards in Los Angeles that work apartment complexes that have to chase down and handcuff people more than some police do.
I've done private sector & public service security work for 24yr+. Most business or factory places need security for insurance/zoning reasons. If they could buy DV or alarm systems they would. 🙄... many retail & bar owners have security or off duty LE officers to avoid law suits or bad PR. A rough crowd or constant 911 calls can close a business.
Most - not all.
It depends largely upon the company that employs you, and the client (in terms of what you are or are not allowed to do).
you should make a video with AfterPrisonShow
nartsivle holy fucking shit yes yes yes
nartsivle Omg yes😄
nartsivle that would be lit
nartsivle livestream
and the fresh out series
Is it true to be a cop in training you have to get tazed?
Kiwi YT totally up to the department's policies.
Depends on the department. Some require it, others don't.
Kiwi YT wow
did you have to get tazed?
officer401 how to police officers feel about bail enforcement agents? (Bounty hunters)
I'm a high school student and im a security officer, im a cadet at my local sheriffs office and I am taking classes for criminal justice, my dream job is to be a cop one day, I will be the first cop in my family and the first to graduate from school. I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I feel a calling to help others
me to. can you take up law, even if you're grades from highschool werent the best?
It’s been a year bro.
Got any good news ?? :)
How are a security officer in high school? Never seen a security job that didn't require a diploma.
@@Cocozen he said he was literally in high school, so I’m not sure why your making a smartass reply about wether or not I heard of GED’s when it is literally irrelevant to the response.
I guess.
4 years later did you become a cop
I'm a Security officer and understand what you are saying. But I am armed and have had training in sheriff dept and Military police. All Security is not gung ho about the job. I have lots of friends on the local force here and they respect me for the job i do and how i handle incidents and I assist them as well. I guess it boils down to experience, education, and awareness.I only wish we received more respect.
Blueyedwolverine I think people in general hate uniform authority whether police or private security.
This is the bottom line. You're correct. People hate being told what to do. Point, Blank, Period.
The Truth Is Here whatever Craig and daedae
I agree to your wish about more respect. It just gets frustrating if even some of the people you are actually tasked with protecting couldn't care less about you. Still I like the job despite the lack of respect and the shitty pay in this country...
Blueyedwolverine. Hang in thier brotha ... Security is a Badge of Brotherhood and its greatly appreciated by us Citizens
Thanks for info. I have been doing security for almost 20 years. You get to learn a lot about human nature. nothing surprises no more about what I have dealt with.
in my security class they told me to be the best damn witness u can be lol i can do that
Lol, this reminds me of the LifeLock commercial. " don't look at me, I'm just a security monitor! "
Lol the sad part about that commercial is that its actually true most security company's don't let us do nothing because they're scared of lawsuits security officers are just for show for the most part but shhhhh don't let the bad guys know
That's true in mosts states, however, liability policies with most contract security companies prevent most of them doing much more than calling the police. Security ends up being professional witnesses for the most part.
"IQ of a potato"... that's my line.. haha.
AceMMA I read this as he said it lol
AceMMA with some of the security guards I’ve seen, it seemed that they did in fact, have the IQ of a potato!
AceMMA that guy went full potato
@@taylor9575 hhaahahahahahaha same
I’m an officer and I’m glad you guys are out there. Good job!
As someone who works in private security, it makes me happy to hear from someone who understands how shit is.
Incidentally got to wrestle down a drunk, pcp fueled psycho for the first time at work last week. That was interesting.
*Uneducated, middle aged people living in a trailer somewhere*
I'm 21, but everything else was right on the money lol
I am 21 now and live in a trailer ... Lol.
You are still a good person who has something to bring into this world.
@@tony62197 bro I am 21, living at my parents house
@@danielesparza791 Lucky
As a manager of a northern canadian security company i appreciate the respect you have for our industry thank you
I appreciate the respect 401. As an armed security guard I've been shot at more times than most cops in my area. It's nice to know that not every cop out there thinks we're like every other Barney Fife security guard...
fbi vs police officers vlog plss
Donald Trump thats true but. my question is do federal agents have a grung aginst police
Donald Trump thats true but. my question is do federal agents have a grung aginst police
FAXITY GAMING i would be interested in knowing what the actual difference is besides the name. were i live every cop is a cop on national level nothing is above or below.
sirBrouwer i agree that to
FAXITY GAMING Fbi have top clearance, usually work a lot of hours a week but a cop could to depending on the department, usually work on big investigation and operate in big cities. Their primary goal is to stop terrorists basically. Cops are like first responders. Like you wouldn't call the fbi for a break in unless it turned into like a mass homicide then the fbi could possibly get involved. And then just like the military, the fbi get shipped to different stations around the world. I want to join the fbi but you have to be 23 and up to even start the process. Look it up, it's an interesting topic and i would still love to see a vid about it.
I stumbled upon your channel recently and I've been enjoying your videos ever since. I did 20 yrs in the TX prison system for being an angry kid. I got locked up at the immature age of 20, and walked out of prison at the much more mature age of 40. I said all of that just to say that I respect all law enforcement, and know that your job is extremely important, and just as necessary. I do everything possible today to NOT add to the difficulty of your mission... I'm a prison minister today and go into the prison system to effect change in the Prisoners lives so that when they are released, they no longer create problems for the Brothers in Blue. It's my way of making amends, and giving back to the community.
Anyway, much respect to you, sir...keep up the great work! Godspeed.
I've been working in security for over 30 years. When I first started, I was working in the Chicago area. 99% of the sites I worked required armed security. Now, I work in Michigan, and most of the work here is unarmed. At my age, I'm more than ready for the dull boring part of it.
I have seen the typical stereo type, "wanna be." They are always out there. Hopefully, they are not all that numerous. I also think we get a bad rap from TV shows that make us ALL look like "wanna be cops." Which is usually not the case.
Just want to add, I love your vlogs. Keep up the good work.
I like being a Security Officer. Just wish I was paid more. Great video man
I worked for several years as a Security Guard - and I loved it!
I was the Bee's Knees! My uniform was tailored, crisp and starched every day, my duty belt was basket-weave and shiny and and always well equipped. My gig-line was immaculate at all times. I carried the best stuff one could possibly afford. I knew all policies by heart. My reports went on for pages, even if nothing at all had happened (and yes, nothing ever happened).
My co-workers called me "Robocop"!
(Behind my back they probably called me "Paul Blart") *lol*
This job was no challenge whatsoever. I had exhausted literally every training that was available for Security in my state of California. I had everything: Guard Card (naturally plus all available "voluntary" and "refresher" courses), Pepper Spray Permit, Baton Permit, Taser Certification, Exposed Firearm Permit, First Aid, Infant and Adult CPR, AED, etc., etc...
I signed up for "Citizens Police Academies"and became a volunteer for two(!) Police Departments in our area, taking part in Scenario Training, DUI-checkpoints, Ride-A-Longs, Report Writing training, "Shoot/No Shoot" training and what not.
But all that didn't cut it for me...
So I decided, I should allow myself to a bit more of a challenge. I quit my job and joined the real Police Academy.
It took me over two years and three attempts until I finally got my pretty Certificate,
I had paid for everything by myself and then I applied with a major PD. I made it all the way through the written and psychological tests, the polygraph and even the department interview - just to find out, that my eyes' depth-perception wasn't good enough.
(I'm friggin' old...)
By that time I was seriously broke and needed a job - any job. So I went back to Security. This time as a Patrol Security with another company. Meaning patrolling predominantly residential properties and the occasional commercial/industrial client-site. And guess what? I love this job! It's awesome!
I get to play with all the good toys (we drive HEMI-Chargers, CVPI's, PUV's, etc...). I get to use all the 10- and 9- Codes I had to learn for the academy, the Penal Codes, etc..., just to be able to communicate with our dispatch. My colleagues are mostly retired or active (Reserves / Off Duty) LEO's, or academy graduates, waiting to be picked up by a department.
What makes the difference(!) is that we all know that we're working in Security - not Law Enforcement! My job is to observe and report. That's all my job description includes. I do not have to risk my life for anybody. If I see someone being assaulted - all I have to do, is to log it in my report. That's why we get paid about one third (or less) of what a cop would get. Nobody can really blame us for not intervening.
On the other hand, I've invested well over $15,000 in my training, spent 8+ months in the academy, got yelled at and my ass slapped around there. I was No. 1 academically (not physically though - hell no...) And after all that, my official credentials identify me as yet another "Security Guard" - just like that 21-something years old kid that simply wants to make some extra Bucks through summer - or that otherwise totally unqualified old dude, who sits in a guard shack all night long - or that hyper aggressive sucker, who's working as head-bouncer at the strip-club down the street.
I'm 100% cool with that! I lacked the physical ability to become a real cop - and yes, that's sad, but I'll have to - and I can - live with it.
Let's face it: Officer 401 himself stated in another video that he's more or less color-blind. He wouldn't have any chance to become a LEO here in California. I am honestly happy for him that his State has different criteria! Seriously!
(Maybe I should move to Georgia or so... *lol*)
We have a standing ("Sentry") guard, who's working at an apartment house complex. He's older and a retired Tennessee State Trooper and making $2.50 less than me per hour... He loves the job and he's having a great time. Isn't that all that matters?
Ok, so I guess I'm writing a lot, most likely too much. Sorry for that! .... Comes with the Job - up to over 20 full length reports (DAR's + IR's, etc,..) every night... ;)
What I originally wanted to say is that "Security" isn't always the same. It does not mean a specific range of duties. Sometimes it means just a squishy job of sitting in a guard shack, waiting until you can go home. sometimes it means proactive and reactive patrolling, becoming a first responder, pulling injured people from car-wrecks, breaking up fights, throwing out disruptive and intoxicated people, saving lives, protecting lives and property (i.e. the first paragraph of the Law Enforcement Code of Ethics)...
The difference is: We do not HAVE to! But as a citizen with values you somewhat still do - even if you're not getting paid accordingly,
However: To all those people n Security out there, who want to be able to be more than just a warm body: Improve your skills!!!
Get all the training you can possibly get. Chances are, you will need it one day. You are the first on site. Don't be that sucker who didn't know what to do! It will bite you in the ass for the rest of your life.
And do not think that you are some sort of a superhero just because you got more training than others - that would be even worse, Do what you got to do - But know what you are doing - and be able to articulate WHY you did it!
Las Vegas Metro Police is hiring over here they could probably give you a chance. We are in dire need of officers at least 600 last I heard.
Hi Kyle, thank you for the hint!
I will check with LVPD right away!
almost 237,000 subs, keep going
Westcoast Auditors Oregon Chapter/CopBlock so on your channel you like to fuck with the police, but then you come support a police channel...... makes sense.
Sheepdog 46 officer401 is real as fuck, he gives what he gets, i respect that, he is down to earth and he honors his oath to the Constitution, i support any officer like him
Westcoast Auditors Oregon Chapter/CopBlock see you feel that way because you actually listen to him and aren't dealing with him on the street. you feel that way about him but dont realize that many other officer have the same outlook and attitude as he does. you would know that if you would speak with officers, and listen to what they have to say instead of shoving a camera in their face and telling them its your right to film. and it is your right, but most of you guys are just total dicks about it.
Sheepdog 46 im not a dick about it, ive had some damn good interactions on and off camera
Sheepdog 46 perhaps stereotyping is not the best option, have you met him? If not, you may not know what he does, or how he acts. I realize a lot of copwatch people are dicks to law enforcement, but the converse is also true. Don't prejudge. And by the way I'm not necessarily defending him, I don't know any more thAn you do, but he's here listening to an AWESOME cops vlog. If he's been a dick, maybe he will see that a lot of cops are regular guys trying to do their job, just like the rest of us.
What do cops think about federal agents vid please
I think the best way to see it is this
Cops get to the scene after the incident
Security are the guys qho are there before
Both cover eachother very well
Have you ever worked with US Marshalls? If so can you tell us about it.
Good idea!
officer401 are you going to do a 100k subscriber plaque unboxing when it comes in?
If he worked with his dad
The problem with your security guard friend tackling people shoplifting these days is he's a civilian. He can't legally use force unless its in self defense. Especially with all of the BLM and anti-authority movements, all it takes is one lawsuit to ruin you. I've worked armed security, and armored car. If it's not my life or anyone else's life in danger, I'm not taking the risk of criminal charges for pursuing a non-violent criminal. Now, I'll still run out to get a detailed description of the vehicle they leave in, and give responding police officers the best possible information. But, I'm not going to go hands on or use force with anyone that isn't being violent. If I were unarmed, I would probably not go hands on at all unless it was absolutely necessary. The climate in security and law enforcement is just too heated to take those risks anymore.
Freddie did you learn your knowledge of private security? from a TV show? security guards are agents of the owner and have the athority of the owner, so like the police it all depends on the policy of the post and your company how and when to use force. As far as the law goes if the law states a property owner can use force to protect life and property then so can his agents.
I am security officer for IPS in Albuquerque. We respond to burglary alarms, calls for service etc. I enjoy my job a lot.
Jason Aponte yeah I see you guys at Walgreens . Are you cops because I see your guns.
There's a big difference between wannabes and usedtobes. Most retired ex-cop usedtobes have more experience, training and a better resume than the average cop.
39 years as a peace officer.
"The I.Q of a potato"😂😂
Currently work as security in a hospital, pretty cool job. It kicks off enough for it to be interesting sometimes but its calm enough where i can do homework and stuff.
I worked security for a couple years after the Marine Corps. Started unarmed in a freaking movie theater. Perk was watching movies lol then went to clubs with the same company. That was fun. We had to break up fights nightly. We always ended up in fist fights ourselves it was that rough. Then went to an armed contract with the company. Even had a patrol rifle. Lol local law enforcement hated us over it. Lol
Move to Denver. Become a security guard for the Weed Industry. Dress and train tacticool...carry a shit ton of weapons, and train with cops
Florida passed medical weed. 😉... I think the rise of new clinics & shops in urban areas will lead to more armed security openings: $15/18/20.00 per hour. 😁...
I am an armed security guard and have been for almost 15 years now. I appreciate your comments and support of security guards it is honestly refreshing. I do however have something I would like to add the thing that irritates me the most is when people say well you can't do much. An example of this is we do security for a bank and while it's nice to think that pd will be close by if an alarm goes off in the moment all you have is an armed guard in the way of a robber and they will target you first as you are the biggest threat. Sometimes we have to make a hard call before help can get to us and it's these moments where you are just a guard hurts the most because sometimes we aren't we are first line defense before help can arrive. I know this was long and again thank you for the respect I hope this finds you well and be safe out there
I work as a patrol security and I carry everything a cop does should I still stay back
kiryto kiry In our company unless someone is in physical harm we wait for PD. We only jump in if the person is already committing violence on someone else or property is being damaged or stolen right in front of us. Otherwise let PD handle it, it looks better when you don't have to go to court.
Bob Dohughboiz That's not 100%, Security Laws are state not federal. If you have an HR then you are probably working for a huge company and they aren't going to want you to get involved because they would prefer to lose the contract over ending up in court.
Smaller companies can't afford to lose a contract and will expect you to get involved. I'd ask your management but use common sense. Remember the officer worked with a Security Guard who cuffed people for stealing food so it isn't illegal but no reason to do anything stupid either.
+Bob Dohughboiz yea my company is pretty small we don't have a hr really but they have us pretty hands on most of the time only rule no clearing building
well thats subjective, while on client property, you have a duty to enforce not only the client rules, but also state and local laws, i wouldnt go out of your way but if the situation arises you need to be ready to take that action. im kinda questioning the training you have received, it should have clearly gone over what you can and cannot do. it should have also gone into a lot of detail with use of force, and how to CYA, in the event you decied to get involved in a situation. my other question is did they even first aid/cpr certify you before giving you a full loadout ?
+NIbble Gaming I did first aid CPR on my own the company doesn't have very clear sop on alarm calls or calls for service so I've been winging it
Seems legit 1 view 42 likes 30 seconds it's uploaded
Fire World every time haha
Fire World likes tend to update before views
Ik its just joke i instantly pressed on the notification when it popped up
I am an armed Security Officer an I just stopped by to say thank you for your support. There are some of us who would like to join law enforcement it’s just harder for some of us than others. Once again thank you and be safe.
I think it really depends on the type of "security guard". A couple Marines I served with went into fairly high level private & personal security. (They knew somebody who knew somebody, who wanted to hire Marines specifically) They get paid a lot more than entry level police officers, they are armed, and they either do corporate, transportation, or VIP security. They aren't mall cops, they hang out in strip clubs with NBA players, ride shotgun with diamond or platinum couriers, or go on shopping trips with visiting musicians, etc. Basically, they are the big guys in sunglasses you see in the background of paparazzi photos. Sometimes they work an event, like a concert, sometimes it's a person they chauffeur and protect. I've never heard any of them say they want to become a police officer, because honestly the jobs sounds less risky, higher paid, and more interesting. (I'm sure being a cop is crazy interesting, but does it compare to protecting Shania Twain one weekend and some Italian executive the next?)
EP agents or protection details, close protection is widely considered different from regular security work or loss prevention. Real professionals or tier one military guys know what & where to get skill training, jobs... 😎🚔👮♂️😉
Hello my dear officer! I have a question, what would you do if a European person mistakes m/h with km/h?
Also, have you ever encountered such people?
odds are you'd just be going slow compared to the rest of traffic and not really in violation of the law. an officer might ask what's going on and figure out that you were using kph not mph then tell you that, but there shouldn't be any real problem with it.
Thank you! Because my friend got pulled over in SF, in some highway I don't remember which one exactly, he said cop pulled him over because he was going too slow in the left lane, after that the issue was solved peacefully but it got me curious. :)
Then he got pulled over because he was in the left lane. Here in the US, the left lane is supposed to be used only for passing other cars or if your exit is on the left side of the road.
Oh really I didn't know that. Maybe that's why. Also does that apply to all highways in the US?
As someone who grew up in a military and police family I appreciate your views on a lot of things and I just wanted to say thank you for being able to explain the differences between the two. I knew I would not be able to handle either the force or the service and before I became a nurse I went into security because I wanted to help people. Security will always work to prevent wrongdoing and when we fail, our police will be there to right those wrongs. I thank you with all my heart for what you do and none of the bad interactions I have had with misguided officers will ever taint my view of those who serve with others in their hearts. Thank you for caring enough about others to put your life on the line for those of us who cannot.
With the utmost respect!
Floyd
As a security guard I agree with this video. In Canada security guard's with AST (Advanced Security Training) can carry and use handcuffs only if they really need to. I have my AST and had to handcuff someone today (thankfull It's not to often I have to). I have a question when security handcuffs someone are police legally without your consent allowed to keep yours and give you their old shitty pair ? They took my nice fairly new cuffs and refused to give them back to me, instead I got a pair of old ,used up, shitty ones.
Asoka Mano They are your property. You get them back.
We deal with the bad guy before cops shoe up. We fight fires before firefighters show up. We do cpr and aed before EMTs show up. We are the first target of gunmen and robbers. We (on average) can't carry batons, tazers, handcuffs, or guns. We hafta do a cops job without the equipment or authority.
Adam Richard the way you spell is the reason why you’ll never be a cop
Umm, no "we" do not have to do a cops job. And in most cases where a Security Guard thinks they have to do a cops job they will end up either on a gurney in a coffin or - most likely - being fired.
Yes "we" are often the "first responders", simply because we're geographically there. But it does not necessarily mean that we need to interfere. There may be situations were lives are at stake and hell yeah, first aid, CPR, AED-use, etc. may become inevitable in order to save someone's life. But seriously? How often does that actually happen?
I am a Police academy graduate, working as an armed patrol security guard. I'm driving PUV's, Crown Vics, Chargers, etc., whatever gets assigned to me for the shift. Our vehicles are equipped with everything except for the red&blue emergency lights. I'm carrying a gun, a Taser, a baton, two sets of handcuffs, and what not. But I'm still not law enforcement. All those means are predominantly meant for self-defense. And yes, occasionally I arrest people, but - and that's the huge difference to law enforcement - I don't have to.
The "public" does not expect me to do a Cops job and if I (or should I) decide to not take action, I can not be blamed for it. My job is to "Observe and Report". If I back out of a situation, nobody can blame me. And therefore I'm only getting paid 25-40% of a "real" Cops wage. And that's totally fair!
If I determine a situation to potentially being or becoming dangerous, I call our dispatch and have the guys in blue deal with it. It's probably way outside my pay-grade and well inside theirs.
Never forget: Time is on your side! There's no need to expose yourself to any dangers at all! If you hear a damsel in distress calling for help and you decide to throw your life on the line, well: More power to you! But that's your call. And better be sure about what you're doing, so that you don't make everything worse. K?
Know what you are and be proud of it. There's nothing wrong with it at all! But please do not assume that anyone of us is doing a Cops job. It's simply not the case.
Jake Curley are you sure you don't work in a cushy little Gatehouse and some nice community? Because I've worked in Section 8 apartment complexes armed all the way up to clubs and bouncing. So don't tell me we don't have to do the job of cops sometimes.
Freddy J I was prepared to be a cop I only had to sign some paperwork but I decided against it so you're speaking in ignorance sir.
As a matter of fact I'm telling you exactly that: We don't have to!
And that's the point. We (Security) are not LE and those security guards, who believe that there's only a marginal difference between Security- and Police-work, are exactly the ones who put Security in a bad light - especially with the cops, but also the general public.
And again: Sure, we are often the first responders. That's a given.
Well said partner, I was your tipical young low pay security guard at the door at Toys R' Us, before becoming a Federal Agent.. and as much as I looked forward to becoming a Fed while I was still a guard, I also did looked back and appreciated all I learned and went through as a simple guard, when I finally became a Fed. It's always about what's in someone's heart!
Right now I’m 18, and I work security for a college. I really only got the job to kinda “get my foot in the door” to be a police officer. Still have to wait a few years before I can go to the academy but I’m really hoping it works out for me 🤷🏻♂️
travis rigney jr, good luck.
I work high end security. Like for vips it pays good were armed and get to travel
That's my goal. I'm fresh as fuck, only a month in with this company. But it's chill.
As a security guard who plans on becoming a cop, it means a lot to me when officers acknowledge me in passing with just simple gestures such as a wave
I've been a security guard for two years. Where I work I don't anything other than sit down an look pretty. 😂 But I know where I stand as for as my job description goes.
To my security brothers and sisters. Y'all stay safe.
I'm actually trying to get a job as a healthcare security officer so this video was interesting to watch. I'm only 18 and it'll be my first actual job. I'm hoping to stay in this job for a while and then go onto actual police officer later on and this seems like a safer starting area lol
Just some words of advice, from somebody who has been in the industry the past say three years or so, the nature of this job is not safe, I'm from England, you might be better off, but we can potentially face the same risks as the Police here, with violent people, those with a criminal history, & situations involving conflict, yet we have none of the same protection as them no pepper spray, no baton, no tazer, no stab proof vest (least not in my company) and to top that off, most of us really just learn on the job, the training I have received has been minimal (from SIA) most of the skills that I have are from something totally different, but not everybody is lucky enough to go through that, all I'm saying is, please be aware of the fact, from the start, that you may get in to one or two dangerous situations.
I understand that there are risks and it could be very dangerous at times. I didn't mean it to sound as if it's the safest thing ever. A police officer has to go into a situation that they know could be dangerous (domestic disputes, robberies, stuff like that). Compared to that in my opinion, only having 1 building to look after that may not even actually need guards is safer because there could be the possibility that as I'm working as a healthcare security guard, I may NEVER have anything bad unless a patient decides to have a psychotic break and attack a doctor.
Gamefreak Gamefreak I've been doing hospital security for 3 years now, just started doing LEO school. Hospital security is probably the best to get into, don't go contract go in house (corporate) contract you'll make like 11 bucks an hour and hate your life and in house you'll be making almost 20 an hour. There's really nothing dangerous about it, we have multiple officers who work the floor and we have a great dispatching center who can get police or EMS to you in minutes. in house security you'll get everything police get besides a gun. The free $600 vest is great. Coming from me who's worked contract and moved in house, definitely a great way to get experience if you want to be a police officer. you'll deal with loads of different problems and have to hold patients down and cuff people, but you should have backup most of the time. we just got rid of our last crown vic for the brand new Ford Explorer too so I'm also digging that.
Gamefreak just an FYI, I'm a volunteer firefighter working towards EMT to eventually be a wilderness EMT. My mom also happens to be a registrar in the ER. Security gets called quite often. Psych evals and combative patients are very common. Not to mention drunks and drug addicts. I've seen up to 5 security officers on one guy that couldn't keep him fully restrained in the ER.
Gamefreak I would strongly suggest choosing wisely if you decide to go into security. It is a dead end job in most cases. (I know this because I've worked it). DO NOT apply to your typical private security companies in your area. If you are going to go into security, browse around for federal security contractors that guard military facilities and things of that nature.
Never worked in the hospital security field, but I would imagine it would be less of a dead end job than most security companies. Hospitals tend to pay decently too.
I am a armed security officer and supervisor and I work hand in hand with the local sheriffs department what you said in this video is something I have to remind my officers of all the time we are not law enforcement officers we are security officers and our job is different then there job
Do a vid on military police
He has.
Ben McInerney the police think there the military nowadays
I became a security officer simply because of day day & craig.
"Top flight" I respect it😂
I used to be a security guard at one of the AutoZone distribution centers, and it was rediculous how serious some of the guys were like they had some kind of authority. When I started they told me if there was a conflict I wasn't alowed to do anything except call a manager out there or the police. I never took the job seriously, I always told people I was a secretary because all I did was answer the phone, and log truck drivers in and out, but I wore a security guard uniform to do that.
I'm only 18 and I have a job as a security guard. This video kinda makes me fear what would I do if there is an armed man on property? I'm not armed, and have little to no training in that...
HeyItsBIG_KID What company do you work for? Where did you train
Securitas
Pinkerton here
Securitas is one of the worst companies IMO, had nothing but bad experiences with them, if there is someone on your property with a gun, book it and hide, your job is to observe and report as a level 2 guard, you're not under any obligation to intervene
Gruppe 6 security here
can you do a video on EMS/EMT
I am glad you made this video. I work as an armed security guard. This position gets to a lot of people’s head. They give them a badge, and call them “officer” I have in the past intervened when I saw a cop getting his ass pounded into the pavement, and I knew his backup was several minutes away. He did thank me as he was chewing my ass for the incredibly stupid thing I did. (I may not have been so brave if I did not have a .38 revolver) Some guards get a big head about the job. But there are many who know they are just here to watch a building and people, and if things go sour to observe from a safe distance and call the real cops.
I am a Class A Liscensed Private Patrol Agent. Aka Security Guard. I'm authorized to make an arrest, when I have probable cause, and I'm on duty, at my post. I AM NOT a peace officer. That said, I am trained, equiped, and expected to intervene, before and after a violent incident. If I am doing my job right, there is no incident. But I have had to put a few guys on the ground, and put them in cuffs. I have a lot of appreciation for Police, as they make my job a possibility, and keep our streets pretty damn safe. Without KCPD, I couldn't find a job like this, and the chances of me breaking into the law emforcement career i want, later on, would be slim to none. But now, there are 3 different small PD's who want me as an officer when I turn 21. Yes, many of my colleagues are fucking retarded, and cause more harm than good. I can only hope, that more people can see it more objectively, like our kindly detective, here.
Do you work in Westport?
You might be able to work courtrooms before 21 then transfer over to LEO.
Do you work for Titan?
I'm a security gaurd too. Bro you take your job way to seriously. Power tripping entitled ass guards like you make us all look bad.
As far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong) you as a security guard do not have more authority than a regular citizen in terms of making arrests, carrying a firearm etc.
If you work security for a store you're allowed to detain or make a citizen's arrest on shoplifters on behalf of the store, but making actual arrests is not something you do or are authorised to do.
Everyone should respectfully stay in their lanes and everyone wins😎🇺🇸
I'm 100% agree with you we do have security guards that they act like they think they are police officers they are not
Anyone else hit the like button before even watching the video?
Hero me
You kinda make me wanna be a cop....
I've done security for 15 years. Countless times I've had police officers talk down to me. Their body language spoke volumes. It got to a point where I just stopped calling them when something would happen. In the end I did my job.
You should collab with After Prison Show
I work for secuirty and we had new guard that was so authoritative so energetic like he's the number one go . he's the superman that everyone needs or he thinks that and got violent with one of the truck drivers cuz he didn't have his ID and starting cussing at him being tough I'm like bro what r u doing your not suppose be cussing at the drivers who do u think you are .if they don't have thier ID don't let them in simple bro . don't be starting shit lol
Alexliftz Style 😂
With all of the training done, security guards knows their job duties. When a guard messes up, it's simply a personal problem, always. I do unarmed and armed security and never had anything too bad happen. I do only what I am suppose to and always make sure I enforce the rules of the client's property and not city property. Appreciate this video ✌🏽
As a corrections officer in the county jail, What do you think about us corrections officers? (Don't hold back, We can take it)
Jaston3613 come on man you know it you don't want the answer
Ill answer this question. I would rather work the worste fu**ing ghetto with no patrol car, bike ect... walking by my lonesome than work in a jail/prison. You guys are nuts... ill pass.
i did the one week training at a level 4 prison and ran away...to much crap going on for me ...im 44 maybe 20 years ago not now !?
In my city C/O's are sworn peace officers, they are (in a very basic sense) police, but lack the training in patrolling, and don't have emergency vehicles.
be Safe watch each other backs, it's tough i respect anyone who is a CO, Many are called but only a few can handle it
Can you join police if you have myopia? If not what about Security?
Woah...that's easier than I though...Then,What about the myopia?
PIE APPLE have you try glasses,lenses,or lasik surgery?
Sir Volatile I have myopia btw...
Bob Dohughboiz Yea,in my opinion Security is as a public protection,but I hate night shift...Specially night on foot...
A lot of private security contracts are sitting and driving a car around a gated community. Basically neighborhood watch...
I totally understand. I'm a Security Guard and I know my job is to observe and report. Police officers job is protect and serve. Some armed Guards want to act like Police officers. But I say stay in your lane
Paul Blaurt is the greatest guard of all time! >:(
As a former armed security Officer of 5 years, who had arrest authority. I think you are only looking at security from the wrong angle.
E03levin wouldn't wouldn't that technically be citizen's arrest
Any breach of peace, self defense or Felony in our presence. Putting your hands on a licensed security officer lawfully performing his duty is 3rd degree misdemeanor to 1st degree Felony in florida
As an unarmed guard at a residential property I once directed LEOs to a Marine who was DUI and left the scene of two collisions on the way home. Another guard called in DV with GBI as he was horking into the landscaping (greenhorn).
TOP FLIGHT SECURITY OF THE WORLD CRAIG
Securirty guards, observe and report, that's it....
I just subscribed to this channel because I love this guy’s goal to create transparency between police and civilians
at 250000 subs can you do a right hand reveal plzzzzzzz
Skipper Will he already did one
But some S/O are armed. We have been trained like you. Plus some of us got training in using Mace and/or pepper spray. And Handcuffs.
Firearms training, baton, handcuff, pepper spray, and CPR are the core classes we take. And the MOAB test is always good too.
You are so polite! Thank you
What’s your opinion about correctional officers?
Orange is the new black
The Real JD 92 I disagree because I know many who don't think that way. They still call them "wanna be cops"