The BEST VR Headset in the WORLD Just Got BEAT! - The Varjo XR4 has Arrived!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @ThrillSeekerVR
    @ThrillSeekerVR  10 месяцев назад +74

    Thanks to Squarespace for sponsoring this video! Head to squarespace.com/thrillseeker to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code thrillseeker at checkout.
    THE XR4 HAS ARRIVED.. AND ITS FREAKIN' GOOD. What do ya think? Willing to rip out a kidney to get one? I'm unsure especially with Vision Pro coming up.

    • @JonathonBarton
      @JonathonBarton 10 месяцев назад

      2:40 Virtual Desktop is a hard pass for me. All these years later, I basically have two options. Let VD display 1920x1080 on my desktop (which is 5120x1440, so the image is unusably stretched in passthrough) OR I can flip the option to fit my 5120x1440 monitor into a 1920x1080 letterbox. Giving me an amazing resolution of... *_1920_* x _*520*_. also unusable.
      This is the same issue I had with the old ultrawide several years ago, which was "only" 3840x1080...
      "Showing Meta and Valve How To Do It"... Pft. QuestLink, Airlink, and SteamVR have *always* shown my desktop at the appropriate 1:1 scale.

    • @YashrajThakor06
      @YashrajThakor06 10 месяцев назад

      I tried it just yesterday before your video came out... The problem is SquareSpace is So paid and expensive for normal people!

    • @Intothematrixs
      @Intothematrixs 10 месяцев назад

      LMAO😂😂2024💪WE REFINANCING KIDNEYS🥴🥴🤣🤟

    • @Tobi123Tobs
      @Tobi123Tobs 10 месяцев назад

      well... I will have a closer look at Bigscreen Beyond headset... already very expensive ... at least for me ... but I love the idea to make headsets smaller and easier to wear. XR4 for sure is a great great headset for VR enthusiast .. like you? :) but way toooo expensive for normal Vr market and yeah... again "big" and far away from the great idea behind bigscreen beyond making a small wearable headset with great specs too

    • @oliver-nation4377
      @oliver-nation4377 10 месяцев назад +2

      So pumped for SteamLink

  • @voidpointmedia853
    @voidpointmedia853 10 месяцев назад +533

    People may look at these hyper expensive headsets and think “ok cool but i can’t afford that right now” and that’s just the thing. The tech in those headsets may be expensive now, but they’re a glimpse into the future of what VR can bring as that tech trickles its way down into cheaper headsets as tech innovation always does. In this current moment, VR tech is the worst it’s ever going to be, and that’s especially exciting. The future holds a world of possibility for VR.

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 10 месяцев назад +26

      For now, I can only wait for the hand tracking and other full body technologies to trickle down

    • @RedLotus102
      @RedLotus102 10 месяцев назад +18

      ​@@Aeretofull body already kinda has, I mean look at slime vr, only thing with them right now is they aren't able to ship out until next year

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@RedLotus102
      They are dealing with the FCC which resulted in US shipments being on the backlog.

    • @cannedolives
      @cannedolives 10 месяцев назад +11

      The VR-3 was the epitome of VR headsets in 2020, and it cost $3,195. Three years later, the Aero, which is just flat out *better* as well as easier to use than the VR-3, goes on sale for $890? If the trend continues, the XR-4 is $3,995 right now. In late 2026, the successor to the aero should be better than the XR-4, easier to use than the XR-4, and go on sale for $1,090 down from $1,190! I know things don’t pan out linearly like that usually, but it gives a ballpark of where things could be! Also by then, Meta will probably be releasing the Quest 4 (likely that year even), which *will* be a competitor to that despite likely being priced substantially lower just due to how well of an all rounder it will be.

    • @Captaine_Crunche
      @Captaine_Crunche 10 месяцев назад +1

      quest 4 will likely be closer to a bigscreen beyond competitor, and bigscreen can drop to like $700
      @@cannedolives

  • @pighaver
    @pighaver 10 месяцев назад +12

    You forgot the most important part! THEY ADDED A CLOCK TO VRCHAT
    !!!!!!!!!!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 10 месяцев назад +3

    WHERE IS THE MEME BREAK?!

  • @EnderRNWL
    @EnderRNWL 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's not a Tuesday Newsday unless it's not on a Tuesday

    • @freddiewinters7022
      @freddiewinters7022 10 месяцев назад

      true, but he said "friday newsday" near the beginning

  • @NeaLx86
    @NeaLx86 10 месяцев назад +1

    the wording "selling yet another kidney" suggests that the kidneys are not his

  • @Wart1076
    @Wart1076 10 месяцев назад +2

    The thing is, even the quest 2 gave me some neck issues. I'd be willing to give up a lot of fidelity for more bigscreen size headsets - this one is completely unappealing to me.

    • @Nochift138
      @Nochift138 10 месяцев назад +1

      cervical radiculopathy is no joke

  • @itsWISHY
    @itsWISHY 10 месяцев назад

    Actual exciting VR news are back❤

  • @Zhadnost
    @Zhadnost 10 месяцев назад

    Steamlink really didn't work at all for me, I went straight back to Virtual Desktop.

  • @TheVirtualRealityShow
    @TheVirtualRealityShow 10 месяцев назад +15

    floor gang

    • @5haken
      @5haken 10 месяцев назад +6

      floor gang

    • @purpe11e
      @purpe11e 10 месяцев назад +7

      floor gang!!!!!!!!

    • @Dj-vrYT
      @Dj-vrYT 9 месяцев назад

      Only 12 likes???

    • @Dj-vrYT
      @Dj-vrYT 9 месяцев назад

      Now 13

  • @alecmackintosh2734
    @alecmackintosh2734 10 месяцев назад +136

    VRChat creators are gonna need to be a whole lot more aware of what assets they're using from now on if they want to monetize them.

    • @ThrillSeekerVR
      @ThrillSeekerVR  10 месяцев назад +37

      big bingo

    • @grizeldiSLO
      @grizeldiSLO 10 месяцев назад +12

      Some case is probably gonna have to get pretty ugly before people start realizing licences exist.

  • @NotDuggyman
    @NotDuggyman 10 месяцев назад +91

    i just don't want VRChat to turn into roblox, incessantly begging and pestering you to buy shit, and adding paywalls like you said, its exactly what i didn't want to happen

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 10 месяцев назад +10

      Want lots of really good content, money needs to be involved, behind all content are a human beings with limited time who have lives to live

    • @smittyvanjagermanjenson182
      @smittyvanjagermanjenson182 10 месяцев назад +8

      If I were a frequent user of VRchat I'd hope for paid worlds that are child restricted. Then maybe I'd use it more. Nothing more annoying than exploring different worlds and seeing just how many squeakers end up wannabe JoshDubs enthusiasts.

    • @TheChaosTheory
      @TheChaosTheory 10 месяцев назад +7

      this is exactly what will happen and im not here for it. =[

    • @sleeve9097
      @sleeve9097 10 месяцев назад

      @@smittyvanjagermanjenson182just go to PC only worlds

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 3 месяца назад

      @@cenciende9401 While that's true its also true that people is greedy and wanna turn everything into money making to the point things start to get bad or even predatory.

  • @library_director8122
    @library_director8122 10 месяцев назад +278

    I think having a free wireless option for PC VR will make it easier for people to make drivers for things like face or hand tracking. Hopefully making it more accessible to everyone.

    • @snaphappy7530
      @snaphappy7530 10 месяцев назад

      There is already free open source ALVR. Not sure if this new steam version is based off it or not. Ive used alvr and its been great

    • @utubby3730
      @utubby3730 10 месяцев назад +22

      I am far more excited to think this is an indicator that Valves next HMD will be wireless :-)))))

    • @tgw230
      @tgw230 10 месяцев назад +4

      Is quest airlink free?

    • @GizmoTheGreen
      @GizmoTheGreen 10 месяцев назад +2

      hoping for hand tracking support personally.

    • @library_director8122
      @library_director8122 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@tgw230 Yes, but it's not great, and geared for Quest only.

  • @greenrryt
    @greenrryt 10 месяцев назад +204

    this new varjo headset is really freaking cool. it gets me wondering about the near future and how much better VR is gonna be.

    • @StubbyPhillips
      @StubbyPhillips 10 месяцев назад +7

      LCD, so NOPE for me.

    • @greenrryt
      @greenrryt 10 месяцев назад

      yeahhhhhhh@@StubbyPhillips

    • @Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer
      @Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer 10 месяцев назад +14

      imagine if they finnaly crack a way to make this level of immersion just by using something akin to a bandage/blindfold over your eyes.

    • @StubbyPhillips
      @StubbyPhillips 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer Indeed. The Beyond isn't terribly far from that TBH. You really can forget it's on your face.

    • @MistedMind
      @MistedMind 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@StubbyPhillips Not an LCD, but MINI LED.

  • @Uryendel
    @Uryendel 10 месяцев назад +28

    I don't understand why nobody copy the index controller, especially for a 4000 USD headset

    • @0skuro
      @0skuro 10 месяцев назад

      Patents, probably

    • @Uryendel
      @Uryendel 10 месяцев назад

      @@0skuro they already use a bunch of valve patent, I don't see valve wanting to safeguard specifically the controller, pretty sure they will be pretty happy to sell a license for it

  • @thehenr
    @thehenr 10 месяцев назад +11

    floor gang

  • @dkstudios4805
    @dkstudios4805 10 месяцев назад +11

    im still pessimistic about the microtransactions in vrchat
    yay, supporting the creators, but i only see it going bad

    • @kairi4640
      @kairi4640 10 месяцев назад

      ​@VioFax yeah, it's one of the reasons I kinda feel like not learning blender. For all we know next year they'll make a ai that can just make a world at the rate it's going by just typing in what you want.

  • @Model_124
    @Model_124 10 месяцев назад +7

    floor gang!! owo

  • @Valcuda
    @Valcuda 10 месяцев назад +4

    I dislike the VRChat monetization.
    Don't get me wrong, I like the fact it's gonna be easier for creators to get paid, but I hate the implementation.
    It uses coins, which are designed like coins in pay-to-win mobile games. They're made so it's hard to judge how much something costs.
    You can also only buy them in packs, meaning you'll likely have some leftover after a purchase, meaning you'll want to buy more so they don't go to waste.
    Even if you can cash out a single coin, doing so makes you lose half it's value, thanks to the 50% cut.
    I know VRChat unfortunately can't get around the 50% cut, but they didn't have to make the value weird, they could've made 1 coin $0.01 USD, and they could've made it so you could buy individual coins!
    It just feels so scummy IMO, and I can this becoming another Roblox situation, since those exact concerns are issues people have with Robux.

  • @chaosfire321
    @chaosfire321 10 месяцев назад +51

    Glad to see Varjo coming out with a banger headset. Of all the headset makers, they were the ones poised to compete directly with Apple's Vision Pro. And considering the amount and quality of product Apple can turn out, they were in a somewhat dire position.
    It's nice seeing them still able to push hardware boundaries and make it more accessible. Now all we need is an Aero 2.

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 10 месяцев назад +4

      I think Apple caught them with their pants down.
      Also, Apple's pricing is more enticing for business owners for being a flat rate and cheaper.

    • @GlobalWave1
      @GlobalWave1 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@MaddTheSane Also apple is such a large company it has more resources and VR apps will be much more mainstreamed on the Apple headset. It's about to get interesting.

  • @supking403
    @supking403 10 месяцев назад +38

    The VR wars gonna be epic again

    • @mop_mop_mop
      @mop_mop_mop 10 месяцев назад +4

      ikr

    • @wrblue08
      @wrblue08 10 месяцев назад

      Zuckerberg be the real winner here.

    • @ConservativeJuggaloPodcast
      @ConservativeJuggaloPodcast 10 месяцев назад +1

      Sony & Meta are the only leaders in this industry, nobody is selling more then 1 million headsets. Sony is currently the leader technically, since Quest hasn't sold 600,000 units, and Sony is likely far past 1 million sales by now.

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast And Apple hasn't officially entered the market.
      And hasn't even announced a consumer model.

    • @zeekjones1
      @zeekjones1 10 месяцев назад +1

      Once Apple drops Samsung gonna have something to say too.@@MaddTheSane

  • @MiChAeLoKGB
    @MiChAeLoKGB 10 месяцев назад +3

    3:20 how many kidneys do you have? Or better question, how many people did lose their kidney for you VR addiction?

  • @Krayfishkarl
    @Krayfishkarl 10 месяцев назад +430

    Floor gang.

  • @JogaisFerd
    @JogaisFerd 10 месяцев назад +11

    Floor Gang

  • @MrNargleflex
    @MrNargleflex 10 месяцев назад +31

    I'm not that amped about vrc's monetization effort; I feel like a monetary incentive, especially given their in-game currency model, is going to attract people seeking the money. Modern examples don't really leave me with much hope for this model.

    • @terariatv7217
      @terariatv7217 10 месяцев назад +5

      Yea I just hope there wont be any pay walls to enter worlds(which is gonna happend 100%) or where you get barebones version of the world where you have to pay to actually play the intended experience of the world

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 10 месяцев назад

      That's a good thing. Want lots of really good content, money needs to be involved, behind all content are human beings with limited time who have lives to live

    • @pewdspersonaldronefromthef5546
      @pewdspersonaldronefromthef5546 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@cenciende9401I'm sick of the whole "greed is good" mindset that modern companies have!

    • @SignalRaptor_
      @SignalRaptor_ 10 месяцев назад

      Also even if we don't get paywall worlds, or paywalled content, thrill said in the video that VRC creators get paid in vrc's proprietary currency. Roblox has the same issue where even if they get 50% of the revenue, it has an insane markup to turn that Monopoly money back into real money

    • @supernukey419
      @supernukey419 9 месяцев назад

      @@pewdspersonaldronefromthef5546 It's not greed is good, it's people are going to be able to put in more effort to their work if that work also pays the bills

  • @purpe11e
    @purpe11e 10 месяцев назад +11

    floor gang

  • @kairi4640
    @kairi4640 10 месяцев назад +20

    I'm hoping the vr chat pay thing is more like a donation jar that's optional, and used sparingly maybe for some extra avatars. Idk, this could easily go horrible or well. 😅 I know if I could make money making a world, that would definitely motivate me to learn to make a world finally lol.

    • @Just_a_Piano_
      @Just_a_Piano_ 10 месяцев назад +14

      I'm not too thrilled to have VRchat worlds locked behind a paywall

    • @smittyvanjagermanjenson182
      @smittyvanjagermanjenson182 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Just_a_Piano_if they lock out little kids in exchange for money that's a potential gold mine.

    • @GeoffreyLedger
      @GeoffreyLedger 5 месяцев назад

      this sounds like paid mods again, remember how that went for bethesda

  • @vixrtv
    @vixrtv 10 месяцев назад +11

    FLOOR GANG

  • @Altasangen
    @Altasangen 10 месяцев назад +10

    fkoor gang!

  • @Solizeus
    @Solizeus 10 месяцев назад +102

    It seems Valve is going in the right way, shame the app isn't open source but being free is already great

    • @InternetsDadGaming
      @InternetsDadGaming 10 месяцев назад +39

      Valve has a history of making software open source after they believe that it's fully developed and finished for their intended purpose or goal, so it may be the same case here

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 10 месяцев назад +6

      This obsession with open source is meh

    • @nightfr09
      @nightfr09 10 месяцев назад +5

      Since it's Facebook's drivers they're likely not allowed to publish Facebook IP

    • @zenithquasar9623
      @zenithquasar9623 10 месяцев назад +3

      Also, I think they weighed the value of making it open source vs. actually having a closed product that is in the Meta market with so much more reach to mainstream. I can see why they would have chosen the latter. I also, really hope, this is indicator of more VR software from Valve...like H-L 3 ahah.

    • @blueninja012
      @blueninja012 10 месяцев назад +6

      I'm really hoping they make it work with linux, we're so close to me finally being able to uninstall Windows completely

  • @RyzawaVT
    @RyzawaVT 10 месяцев назад +14

    In regards to the VRC changes, I just hope the map creators don't get too greedy, I don't think all of them will but some will likely get carried away I imagine. I'm glad it's here but I'm just cautiously optimistic.

  • @Rraptor1012
    @Rraptor1012 10 месяцев назад +20

    Thanks for the consistently awesome uploads, Thrill!

  • @ivoryvr
    @ivoryvr 10 месяцев назад +11

    Floor Gang ^_^

  • @Aeleas333
    @Aeleas333 10 месяцев назад +71

    It's wild how the Vision Pro has suddenly made $4000 sound like an actually reasonable price. The Apple effect is real
    Edit: to clarify, I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing. It's just wild how much it changes the public's (and my own) perception of the cost.

    • @phil631
      @phil631 10 месяцев назад +12

      The Apple Vision Pro doesn't need a PC

    • @corruptederror1952
      @corruptederror1952 10 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@phil631still overpriced

    • @mr.stuffdoer8483
      @mr.stuffdoer8483 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@corruptederror1952it probably isn’t depending on the cost of the tech. This shit ain’t cheap to make

    • @KriegerBR29
      @KriegerBR29 10 месяцев назад +10

      Actually, Apple is pushing the prices down. The XR-3 costs $7000 plus a subscription, needs stations for tracking and isn't a standalone device. The Vision offers higher resolution and eye-tracking navigation that is yet to be seen in the industry. And now Varjo launches the XR-4 cutting almost half the price with no subscription.

    • @ConservativeJuggaloPodcast
      @ConservativeJuggaloPodcast 10 месяцев назад

      @@phil631 that doesn't mean it has great graphics....

  • @5haken
    @5haken 10 месяцев назад +12

    floorgang

  • @kazeryu4834
    @kazeryu4834 10 месяцев назад +9

    floor gang

  • @jerrebrasfield4231
    @jerrebrasfield4231 9 месяцев назад +2

    Stop selling kidneys, people are starting to wonder where you are getting them 😂

  • @alexnewby2004
    @alexnewby2004 10 месяцев назад +21

    I remember my first experience with actual vr. It was a while ago at gadget show live, and we were walking around the convention area. One of the booths had vr rings to try where you held onto a guard rail, wore some special shoes, and you could walk around a famous painting.
    The shoes had no grip so you literally couldnt stand with them, but against being told not to, i let go of the ring to try and… tried to grab something that wasnt really there. I smacked my head on the rail and everyone was trying to make sure I was okay, but I was just fascinated by the idea of a world that didnt really exist

    • @TekTokYT
      @TekTokYT 10 месяцев назад +3

      my first experience was with the dk1 at gadget show live!!!

    • @teavo3808
      @teavo3808 9 месяцев назад

      i love this. thank you for sharing.

  • @Spidoc
    @Spidoc 10 месяцев назад +10

    I think it's kinda funny how the VRChat credits now make it even more like the Oasis than it was before. Obviously the Oasis was more of an MMORPG that turned into a MMORPG hybrid with social experiences and productivity in addition to other things, but VRChat is really close to that now and it's sort of insane and cool.

  • @DumtheShiz
    @DumtheShiz 10 месяцев назад +12

    floor Gang!

  • @birdwithteeth9799
    @birdwithteeth9799 10 месяцев назад +38

    It’s always amazing to see how far vr technology has come since those first early headsets like the rift it’s truly incredible.

    • @zenithquasar9623
      @zenithquasar9623 10 месяцев назад +7

      Is it? Or is it exactly expected, predicted trajectory. I think Rift was more incredible, because it really made viable, consumer VR a reality, the rest is normal tech advancement. I think the lucky part that Zuckerberg got obsessed over it and put sooo much money behind it.

    • @milannesic5718
      @milannesic5718 10 месяцев назад +3

      I am not impressed. Still bulky and heavy, still garbage FOV. Still out of consumer price. 8 years later., and 12 years later since DK1.

    • @KiyoshiProductions
      @KiyoshiProductions 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I'm still rocking the CV1 and just can't convince myself to upgrade yet. Thinking of maybe trying the quest 3 but still not totally convinced it's worth the upgrade

    • @SynchronicitySequence
      @SynchronicitySequence 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@milannesic57188 years later, you mean 28. The virtual boy came out in 1995 ;p

    • @smittyvanjagermanjenson182
      @smittyvanjagermanjenson182 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@milannesic5718 that's fine. The consumer market has only really just started to take off. We started at NES and are now at PS5 and that only took like 3 decades. The quest 3 in standalone mode is fairly strong for what it is, nearly surpassing the xbox 360 in quality after only 3 years after the quest 2. All the QoL gripes (FoV, optic stacks, and power draw) get fixed over time.

  • @SimanSlivar
    @SimanSlivar 10 месяцев назад +3

    Im a bit angry about the monetization... Already worlds that are now charging for old mod features and access to the worlds... VRChat sucks now...

  • @treschlet
    @treschlet 10 месяцев назад +8

    I love that Brad is just the official mascot for Deckard Copium

  • @yamazakuravr
    @yamazakuravr 10 месяцев назад +5

    Lets go tuesday newsday on a friday night! coming from floor gang

  • @BisaPKMN
    @BisaPKMN 10 месяцев назад +12

    Floor Gang

  • @blueboytube
    @blueboytube 10 месяцев назад +4

    Dude is selling so many kidneys he must be on a watch list

  • @Mark6O9
    @Mark6O9 10 месяцев назад +3

    Cryptocurrency will be the death of VRChat

    • @littleillusionyuki8889
      @littleillusionyuki8889 10 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed. The thought of vrchat shop succs

    • @Cheesecannon25
      @Cheesecannon25 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's not crypto, just regular ol' proprietary
      Like we've had in games for decades now
      This sucks, but please complain about the actual system

  • @Blueknight1999
    @Blueknight1999 10 месяцев назад +4

    I think adding monitization to vrchat will be a bsd thing. The game is already plauged by shady characters and half assed strip clubs. Adding real money directly into the game i believe will worsen these issues and create new ones like, paywalling features that have no reason to be paywalled, pollarize communities by those who donated and those who havent, and scams.

    • @Derpynewb
      @Derpynewb 10 месяцев назад +3

      already an issue you know. patreon paywalls. what this will do is just make it more mainstream. low effort cash grabs are going to be more common. lets just hope 1 or 2 good things come out amongst the wave of shit

  • @zeekjones1
    @zeekjones1 10 месяцев назад +12

    floor gang!

  • @dominicmartinez7229
    @dominicmartinez7229 10 месяцев назад +12

    FLOOR GANG

  • @DiamondDepthYT
    @DiamondDepthYT 10 месяцев назад +6

    For me, Steamlink's quality couldn't compare to the auto settings I have on Virtual Desktop.

  • @HeadsetHistorian
    @HeadsetHistorian 10 месяцев назад +27

    Just got word that it only has DP1.4, so it's restricted to 30PPD unless the game specifically implements Varjos SDK (which is currently zero games).
    So the Aero actually has higher PPD for consumer use cases, albeit lower FOV. Really a headscratcher that they went with DP1.4.

    • @ThrillSeekerVR
      @ThrillSeekerVR  10 месяцев назад +17

      Yeah still 1.4. I asked them about it and apparently hey did some interesting stuff to stay right under the bandwidth with the eye tracking. The PPD on the pupil gaze is still 51PPD (according to them) with drastic fall off outside of the focus range.

    • @HeadsetHistorian
      @HeadsetHistorian 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@ThrillSeekerVR That's true but only with SDK implementation so unfortunately for the consumer experience of Steam VR gaming, we will be stuck st 30PPD (lower than Aero due to the larger FOV).
      It will still be amazing but much less appealing for the mad cost but does make the Aero still an appealing purchase at a good price now (although come on... Bigscreen beyond is what you'd really go for now haha).

    • @stevebobowski3507
      @stevebobowski3507 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@HeadsetHistorianthanks for pushing me closer to purchasing the BSB. My daily driver is an aero but the form factor of the BSB has me drooling

    • @Davids6994
      @Davids6994 10 месяцев назад +6

      Maybe because the best GPU that can run in as of today (4090) has DP1.4 so why try harder if hardware is anyways the limit

  • @dromnispank4723
    @dromnispank4723 10 месяцев назад +5

    Meta: Quest 3 design
    Varjo: " *YOINK* "

  • @Nazasu
    @Nazasu 10 месяцев назад +4

    For the creator economy, sure the creators may get 50% of the split, but Gumroad only takes 10% of what avatar and world creators make, not to mention Patreon takes 25 cents on direct deposit payout and 1% payout fee for PayPal on top of an at most a 12% cut for membership fees. Sure, it's nice for people to support their favorite creators in game, however, the creators earn more still through outside platforms. Hell, I think some creators even just have a donation thing so they get 100% of donations anyways, so thinking about it from a purely monetary perspective, it makes sense to support creators through the means by which we are already doing so. VRChat wants to capitalize off of how convenient it will be paying for in-game subscriptions.

  • @captainsplatt
    @captainsplatt 10 месяцев назад +4

    here to stop ppl saying first

  • @vinyhrothgar3424
    @vinyhrothgar3424 10 месяцев назад +13

    Floor gang 🕺🕺

  • @Dtr146
    @Dtr146 10 месяцев назад +14

    I honestly think that the XR4 is the biggest slap in Apple's face. Vario just looked at Apple and said "what do you got on us." I honestly think the selling point for this thing should be that it costs about as much as what Apple wants for their vision pro headset but is like 10 times better

    • @ThrillSeekerVR
      @ThrillSeekerVR  10 месяцев назад +14

      Yeah I thought a lot of the same. XR3 was basically the only thing at Vision Pro's level and Varjo just one upped themselves.

    • @TayoEXE
      @TayoEXE 10 месяцев назад +3

      Not to mention Quest 3 is 7x cheaper and has the largest VR gaming ecosystem period and does a lot of similar things with improved MR over Q2, leaving people wondering who Vision Pro is even targeting at this point. Sandwiched in-between.

    • @Dtr146
      @Dtr146 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@TayoEXE eh I still don't want to be in the meta ecosystem. I was thinking about it but I'm going to stick with my Pico 4

    • @Derpynewb
      @Derpynewb 10 месяцев назад +1

      thats nothing new. apple has always made weaker hardware thats priced higher. they excell at everything else. software and marketting. Thats why the iphone is so successful despite compettitors having better and cheaper hardware. its only till a few years ago that apple actually has decent hardware in their stuff.
      the thing you forgot though is the apple headset is standalone. its made to be used standalone.

    • @mr.stuffdoer8483
      @mr.stuffdoer8483 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@TayoEXEyeah gee I wonder if that much cheaper gaming device is meant to compete with an incredibly high end and unique headset, it’s definitely not like they were different markets.

  • @602jesse
    @602jesse 10 месяцев назад +16

    What I think the headset shows is that it's still pretty amazing how solid the quest 3 is for price.

    • @jerkface38
      @jerkface38 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yep I'm planning to use the quest 3 to finally be able to work on my patent properly. I can't draw for shit which means I can't properly show how it works despite having my proof of concept but with the 3D art apps in the quest 3 I can finally do that. I only wish I'd gotten it months ago but I didn't realize it was an option. The hell I probably could do it with the quest 2 but I was wholy uninterested in virtual reality. I just didn't realize that it was for more than just gaming at the time I didn't think they'd come that far.

  • @Sight-Beyond-Sight
    @Sight-Beyond-Sight 10 месяцев назад +11

    Some of us are waiting with VERY deep pockets for the perfect VR system to get into. I have dropped $5,000+ for a laptop, so this is not much different. I want something so awesome, I could slip into a VR delusion and escape reality for the remainder of my retirement years.

    • @Sarevok_Wins
      @Sarevok_Wins 4 месяца назад

      Same boat honestly. Quest 2 Fallout 4 has been a stellar experience for now. Have you purchased a VR daily driver yet? Or are you still waiting?

    • @Sight-Beyond-Sight
      @Sight-Beyond-Sight 4 месяца назад

      @@Sarevok_Wins I see a couple bits of hardware I could use, but it is not available yet for the consumer market. Looks like the RTX 5000 series will be out (or at least announced) around the end of the year too.

    • @Sarevok_Wins
      @Sarevok_Wins 4 месяца назад

      @@Sight-Beyond-Sight I think I'll be rebuilding my setup once the 50 series drops, but I'm just looking for a nice VR set without the damns screen door effect.

    • @Sight-Beyond-Sight
      @Sight-Beyond-Sight 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Sarevok_Wins That is part of my problem too. My desktop is a 2nd gen i7. The 14900KS looks JUICY and dumping in some 192GB of DDR5 5600 MHz (CPU limit) would fill the need nicely. I want to get it all at once so I have something worthy of pushing the latest and greatest. Also looking at the Virtuix Omni One omni-directional treadmill to go with.

  • @montrealcrew1528
    @montrealcrew1528 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'll never go back to wired.

  • @BrittTheFurry
    @BrittTheFurry 10 месяцев назад +4

    VRC is becoming the metaverse Zucc wanted. Living and working in VR just became a lot more real and honestly, I can't wait to see what the change brings to VRC

    • @SignalRaptor_
      @SignalRaptor_ 10 месяцев назад +3

      I worry it will bring paywalled worlds, and bad conversion rates to creators from VRC's proprietary currency back into real money. I think this was certainly a decision that was made by the upper echelon of VRC, and I fully believe this will be bad for the community.

  • @loremipsum9448
    @loremipsum9448 Месяц назад +1

    XR4 is not as good as you say. To have reviewed it for one month at work, I only agree with your VR feedbacks. MR is not their yet, I would prefer Quest 3 smoothness than XR4 really clear but only in controlled environment and with zero movement. And hell what a poor ergonomic!

  • @RasenRambo23
    @RasenRambo23 10 месяцев назад +3

    XR-4 has a mini-LED panel and doesn't include a computer. Really puts the value of the AVP into perspective. (OLED panel + M2 and R1 chips.)

  • @ainedroid
    @ainedroid 10 месяцев назад +3

    Tbh I’m kinda hoping the new creator monetization program for VRC will turn out well for everyone! I’m curious to see how it will be used going forward:O

  • @DrRhubarb
    @DrRhubarb 10 месяцев назад +2

    No idea why people rave about this VRChat update. World makers already had good monetization thru Patreon etc before without a fat 50% cut.

    • @DiamondDepthYT
      @DiamondDepthYT 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, it's just too much.
      And honestly, the use of credits is hella shady to me.

  • @chris_is_here_oh_no
    @chris_is_here_oh_no 10 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent video, great wrap up of the news!

  • @drakowerewolf7209
    @drakowerewolf7209 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Thrill. Will you talk about Resonite, the spiritual successor to Neos by the same dev team, but without the crypto? I feel like it needs more atention, make people aware of it.

  • @cannedolives
    @cannedolives 10 месяцев назад +11

    I have been RAVING about variable focus for years and it is literally the *only* feature I’ve genuinely really wanted from a new VR headset since the technology was announced by oculus like six years ago! I am so insanely happy that this is coming out and that it’s going to come down in price soon! I’ve been saying that people keep wishlisting things like increased resolution, wider fov, lighter weight, better audio, etc, but almost none of it matters compared to the ability to focus on objects and use your eyes normally! This is the missing link between Virtual Reality and Reality Reality!

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere 10 месяцев назад +5

      Its the passthrough cameras, not the headset lenses.

    • @cannedolives
      @cannedolives 10 месяцев назад

      @@Nobody-Nowhere I know, but at least it’s a step in the right direction-having that feature available for any part of a headset immediately improves it in my book beyond all headsets that don’t have it at all

  • @High-Tech-Geek
    @High-Tech-Geek 10 месяцев назад +1

    QOTW: How is AI intersecting with VR?

  • @brentlidstone1982
    @brentlidstone1982 10 месяцев назад +3

    I for one am really stoked about the VR Chat monetization because it means it could finally be the thing that drives ARTISTS onto the platform. I mean its not hard to imagine maybe some very famous DJs might see this as motivation to do virtual concerts in VR Chat where you need to pay 5 or 10 bucks to attend. I don't think it's unreasonable at all if it brings out famous artists that normally wouldn't care.

  • @zavitak
    @zavitak 10 месяцев назад +2

    All good until the 10K jumpscare.. Like, what the hell.

    • @ThrillSeekerVR
      @ThrillSeekerVR  10 месяцев назад

      Yeah that surprised me as well. After using it I considered for a brief moment saving to get one until I saw the price. 4k is one thing. 10k is a whole different ball park.

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 10 месяцев назад

      And people think the Apple Vision Pro is expensive.
      That was what Apple was going against and out-pricing: the XR3. Not the Meta Quest Pro.

  • @fynnlang3011
    @fynnlang3011 10 месяцев назад +2

    Can I offer my first born child for the xr4?

  • @KofieBluejay
    @KofieBluejay 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Varjo is really interesting but it will still probably be obliterated in sales and quality by the Vision Pro. The Vision is cheaper, it got a small footprint, it does not look like an Oculus VR1, and it has m-OLED screens. Software wise, nothing really beats Apple, and it will integrate so well within the ecosystem that it’s a no brainer for those companies.
    You cannot compete against Apple if you are not a GAFAM. And even if you are, like Facebook, it’s still a task in its own right.
    But I’d argue it’s not really what Varjo was going for anyway. If they were at an military convention, it’s because you do not give a 3.5k glass headset to a soldier for training.
    They saw the Apple headset, they HAD to lower the price for most people, at this point, it’s probably be staying a niche product within a niche sector, even if the Vision lineup democratize Spatial computing headsets.

  • @Nobody-Nowhere
    @Nobody-Nowhere 10 месяцев назад +2

    Sharp is bringing out a headset next year with auto-focus passtrhough.
    So it wont take that long.

  • @loboxido
    @loboxido 10 месяцев назад +1

    Meta: let's make a headset that anybody can buy...
    Every other brand: let's make a headset that no one can buy 😂😂😂

  • @johnfrian
    @johnfrian 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm literally holding off on buying my next vr headset, waiting for a wider FOV headset with modern specs.
    The pimax 12k, set to launch AFTER the crystal seems like a decent contender, but VR headsets keep dropping with index-like FOV.
    Why can't we have bigger FOV headsets?

    • @sudo-apt-upgrade-brain
      @sudo-apt-upgrade-brain 10 месяцев назад +2

      A small increase in FOV leads to huge increase in computing. We need faster chips or better cooling systems. Just my guess

    • @vientayuno934
      @vientayuno934 10 месяцев назад

      I have an 8kx, I debated getting the Beyond, but the FOV wasn't there.
      I've tried most VR products by way of my flight school, heaps of students have their own sim set ups and being them in from time to time. The 8kx still stands out all these years later.
      Let's hope the 12k addresses all our needs, idc if it requires a beastly PC to run it, it has to be ABLE to do it.

    • @Mr.Cheeseburger24
      @Mr.Cheeseburger24 10 месяцев назад

      But FOV beyond 140 is useless and taxing on hardware.

  • @DjRuGu
    @DjRuGu 10 месяцев назад +1

    In game paywall will make me sad, since I can’t really afford this game to begin with - I guess it’s time to move on. 😢

  • @quidnunc01
    @quidnunc01 10 месяцев назад +1

    There might be an issue if you sell both kidneys

  • @Adiuva1
    @Adiuva1 10 месяцев назад +2

    Don't think I have seen your vids pop up on my feed with "seconds" shown before. Looking forward to this one and afraid to see the price!

  • @FACS01
    @FACS01 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why the xr4 camera arrange looks so similar to the quest 3?

  • @mrdummy_nl
    @mrdummy_nl 10 месяцев назад +1

    4000 is too much, so i am waiting for Pico 5 Pro. This one should have full face tracking.
    And i hope VRChat is not too much pay-walled, also i hope creators are not going too far to buy for some silly effects.
    I build worlds too, so i know almost exact what is needed to make it work.
    I hope everything stays friendly and open.

  • @ThisOldChris
    @ThisOldChris 10 месяцев назад +2

    Kinda sad for VRC. The most fun I had was just world hoping and having to pay for most would make it untenable. Especially if like me you are in a country where the money is very weak vs USD. You end up paying double or more for the same...

  • @VaalkinTheOnly
    @VaalkinTheOnly 10 месяцев назад +1

    VARJO BABY
    BACK AT IT AGAIN
    Edit - I don't need it

  • @wanaan
    @wanaan 10 месяцев назад +1

    What kind of PC spec/modem is required for that SteamVR link?

  • @TheThaiLife
    @TheThaiLife 10 месяцев назад +1

    How does this have so many views and so few likes? Seems legit…

  • @copper_knight
    @copper_knight 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great another prosummer++++ vr headset. The number of times I said this in the past 2 years, this getting ridiculous. These kind of products are slowing vr adoption way back. Ultra high tech without proper software integration is WORTHLESS.

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 10 месяцев назад

      Expect Apple to release a cheaper model in two or three years, once they refine things and ramp up production.

  • @mr_random675
    @mr_random675 10 месяцев назад +1

    Im just waiting for nerve link now

  • @MrGillb
    @MrGillb 9 месяцев назад +1

    Damn we can't even escape cover charges in virtual reality now

  • @blaze9076
    @blaze9076 10 месяцев назад +1

    ok, but imagine Unrecord in this headset... think about that

  • @alkeryn1700
    @alkeryn1700 10 месяцев назад +1

    within a decade we will probably have > 60ppd headset that are no biger than the beyond, that'll be fun.

  • @vao879
    @vao879 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thrill and PHIA together irl, awesome!

  • @brentflowers7612
    @brentflowers7612 9 месяцев назад +1

    I hope those stupid useless mask never come back 😂

  • @nesis1234
    @nesis1234 10 месяцев назад +1

    Autofocus from PoLight, TLens 🇳🇴

  • @andrewmutavi590
    @andrewmutavi590 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Rift S in 2023,the experience,is it worth it?

  • @LydianMelody
    @LydianMelody 10 месяцев назад

    Subscriptions and the inevitable (imo) ability to tip people like musicians and dancers directly is a great thing overall but def gonna be a mixed bag. I’m not looking forward to the explosion of fake musicians using RUclips videos making a comeback.

  • @dieard1
    @dieard1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can I ask. Why the face mask? Genuine question.

  • @jamiesalmonsculpture8599
    @jamiesalmonsculpture8599 10 месяцев назад

    The hype is real, and so is the expense! Only private industry and popular RUclipsrs need apply. Huge gap now between low end VR and high end. Hope that changes soon

  • @Rockyvrc
    @Rockyvrc 9 месяцев назад +1

    The fact you got gobit to join this video is insane

  • @chopter4193
    @chopter4193 10 месяцев назад +1

    is it just me or does it look like a shiny quest 3?

  • @TRACKTOR7-_-
    @TRACKTOR7-_- 10 месяцев назад +1

    QOTW: i asked this before but ill ask again
    If you were to make a vr headset , what would be the specs and how much would it cost?