Analogue Super Nt Review!
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- There have been a number of clone Super Nintendo systems over the years. But could this one be so good, it's even better than the original?
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Colin Keep up the awesome videos. i have a few select Creators that i follow that i can actually recall and tell people about at a moments notice without looking them up. You are one of them. Thank You
I'm glad you finally got the opportunity to review a proper clone. See they all don't suck.
This is the best review of this console as of yet. You touched on things many others that reviewed this same console didn't. It was also really cool that you opened up and gave us a peek at the guts!! The slow down you mentioned is not even slightly a big deal at all. To me 16 bit nintendo games are the sweet spot on the 8 bit to 64 bit bar graph in my opinion. There are just to many pros as opposed to con on justify this buy. The pal/ntsc option makes this buy a no brainer for me. I should have Pre-order mine early. Anyways, I really like your reviews cause they are very straight forward and to the point. This video was ear candy for my GEEK cravings. Keep up the great work!!
Went through star fox last night on this and it was amazing. The slowdown on big explosion and heavy polygon parts were there but ran through then at 60fps.so it was smooth slowdown if that makes any sense lol. The action was seem less . There is no lag. Even compared to the best emulator setup there's no comparison. This is the best snes experience ever
With jailbreak now you can play roms from the sdcard
On loading games from the SD card, Kevtris eventually released a jailbroken firmware for the Analogue NT. There's really no reason to believe that won't eventually happen with the Super NT as well
Very nice review. Although this is technically more expensive than other "clones" compared to the NES version (at a whopping $500) this is much more affordable. I'm thinking about picking one up. Thanks!
Let's see this work with Retro-bit's Genesis//NES to SNES adapters. This might be the end-all be all hommage to classic nintendo console gaming. Kevtris really delivered the goods! For me, it's worth the 190$ for sure. It's compact, got the modern hi-res video output, crystal clear audio, and original controller support. Winner winner chicken dinner!
Pleasant review and I did order one for my self as a birthday present to me, as I like to stream to twitch and wanted a simple workaround. I own a few of the classics that I would love to reply, so can not wait for this to come in the mail!!!
This is rather interesting piece of tech. The Cyclone V is really a powerhouse. I think, that there must be a lot of LUs free on the fpga itself. If the manufacturer would release some kind of “framework” - lets say pin assignment and constraints for the Quartus - people could “hack” the console and add more features. I can think about some kind of hw speedrun mode for example. Or some kind of tech explenatory mode, that would show how the gamecode itself works.
I'm sure Kevtris will add plenty of extra features in updates as he did for the NT mini.
The Ultimate SNES Classic
Tintel more like the cheaper one. (At least for a while.)
No emulator holds a candle to this. I'd brain a baby for one.
Love this review! Aaaaaaand subbed!
They need an N64 version of this!
I almost pre-ordered one, and was more than willing to spend the $189 for a unit, but the $40 domestic ground shipping killed the deal for me.
Lucky yours was only $40, it was like $52 for UK orders
Mine was 40 in the uk. You must be getting the second pre order
If those wireless controllers don’t significantly add to the input lag then it’s 100% worth it
First on a comment by the cult expert!
Nice video. Just getting one this weekend. Can’t wait to play on it. Also I’m trying this with the ever drive
Got the Analogue Super Nt today (black color, it was the only color they were still accepting pre-orders for as the other three colors are all sold out when I placed my order last month), cannot wait to try it out! Sure came in fast from Analogue shipping it out last Friday coming in to Canada.
Great review, as always. I've purchased (and not purchased ) items based off your reviews. Ill probably get this now. Thanks.
Great video, Colin. Thanks for making it.
Great review, Love all the research you do :)
Excellent review! I really want one after seeing this. It's nice to see a higher-end good quality option for retro gaming. :D
Great review and beautiful quality. Love that lavender colorset!! :D
Just an FYI, scanlines look a lot better at 720p. They become too big at higher resolutions. 720p is also an integer scale of 240p, so there are advantages to playing at a lower setting.
Finally! A proper high quality modernised SNES that does not rely on software emulation.
Really impressive work and for a good price. Hope they make a similar thing for the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive.
Absolutely worth it what a fine piece of hardware, I'm glad this exists and I'm hoping we see something like a Gameboy from them in the future.
Rob Codispoti Well they have the "gameboy" you use youre phone as an screen etc and have the gameboy buttons and card slot. So yea its kind of the same and it can play original games on it, buuut its still a emulation
@@thelaptopcafe5470 I actually have a pocket now got it in the first batch, a dream come true really.
Awesome review and an amazing console :)
A much better review than the MJR review! Keep up the good work!
I like all the reviews I've seen equally. My only gripe is John Hancock's overuse of "a'right" and "just kind of," but that's minutia that only an Aspie like me would be irritated by.
Oh come on, I like both, they are unique in different ways.
I wouldn't say it's "better", and I definitely wouldn't say it's "worse"!! MJR and Colin look at things from very different perspectives. MJR sees things more from a consumer perspective, where as Colin goes more fo the "why and how" of things... like when it comes to MJR's ultimate Gameboy Advance, MJR will say what has been added and what each upgrade does, focusing on the end result the consumer will notice. Colin on the other hand, if he was given that same Gameboy Advance, would get down into how each upgrade works and why it is or is not an improvement from a more technical standpoint.
I think both channels do a great job as they focus on things from different angles, catering to the same community, but turning their attention to different interest groups within that community... it's almost as if they designed the whole "your channel, my channel" differences that way together!!
MJR is a poser. That guy fucking milks idiots for his content.
fellow “aspie” here :)
The price is closer to reasonable than the nes one at least.
The advantage of the NES one is that it can be jailbroken, and then not only can you play ROMS, you can even change the FPGA to emulate the SuperNES, Sega consoles, and a few others I believe (need roms for those obviously, cartridge slot won't transform). Not sure the Super NT can be. You just need to go find the guy who actually created the FPGA program and you can download his jailbroken firmware and off you go.
Fantastic video as always, Colin! I love seeing your reviews and previews :) The Analogue Super NT looks like a great system, I'd love to have one myself.. but that price is way out of my comfort zone. Perhaps one day, if/when they allow jailbreaking and playing ROMs from SD slot, I'd look into it. Still, damned fine piece of kit :)
Happy Super Nt Day! Great review, Colin.
Dat white/lime green Vita at the intro!
What about it?
Mine arrived yesterday, wasn’t expecting a huge visual upgrade over my SNES mini but wow it looks incredible and no compatibility issues with any of my Japanese games.
2:21 Not often do I see such great taste in games on a clone console
Brutal console 💥 and a review at its height 👏 idk how many people own one in 🇨🇱 so I can't wait mine to arrive and brag about it with everyone 😄
Was able to snag one of the last Black Super NT's before they sold out (all other variants were sold out). Very happy with it I don't have any problems unlike a Snes Mini I was using before, definitely thinking about picking up the Mega Sg before those sell out too.
Maybe i missed it... BUT: Can i save on a SD Card ? Lets say for games where the save battery run out ?
No, save states are not possible as its in theory a real snes. Passwords and battery vackups on your cartridge yes
This looks phenomenal. Worth every dollar for someone with a lot of original carts i reckon.
That's so awesome! I want a Mega Drive edition!
Well, your wish is their command apparently.
Yes, the Mega Sg exists. Go buy one.
@THECOMMENTMASTER 7 salty
@THECOMMENTMASTER 7 if it's not your thing, you can just pass it up, I guess
you aren't the one who decides how people spend their money
Very nice review as usual! :)
Hyper qualitiative review man ! thanks
I just got my Super NT in last Friday 'today's Sunday Feb 2nd' and I've been loving it! Got the US style SNES. If your comfortable with spending $200 I highly recommend this product! Jailbreak firmware is cool too. Though FX games and a handful of others like Mario kart wont run off the SD card currently
Love your vids man keep them up man
Already bought mine! Can't wait to get it!
This does look like an impressive piece of kit. Looks like it's on par with (or even succeeds) Hyperkin's Supaboy.
I might like to get one at point, but having both a SNES and a Super Famicom makes it difficult for the time being.
It surpasses Hyperkin's hardware in both accuracy and lag, due to this using an FPGA instead of emulation. Basically, the Super NT can hardware simulate the SNES at full speed and near perfect accuracy. This can't be matched via any other method besides physically recreating the SNES hardware and chips.
This is light years beyond the Supaboy. Not even comparable to be honest.
It’s not 60fps output, MHz refresh 60/50 selectable not framerate
Just ordered from the second batch of pre orders 5he matte black and the transparent soooo hype
So when can I get a FPGA Genesis?
I like the clear and black...
Great review! Keep up the great work!
The systems designer released advanced/jailbreak firmware on atariage for the nt mini. It adds support for roms and support for a ton of other consoles.
It seems likely that he will do the same for this console.
There is a jailbreak which allows ROMS to be played!
I pre-ordered mine. But they will ship only on September!
I would love too have one of these. Thank you for your review.
I'd write codes for this if available and not game genie
It sucks that they're still using Micro USB instead of switching to the more sturdy Type-C connector.
What difference does it make, it's not something you will be plugging/unplugging a lot - at least it's not a proprietary power connector.
Yeah, it's mainly an issue on phones where they wear out quickly because of all the unplugging, but it should have been Type C or USB Mini.
Type C would cost more for no real advantage, and I haven't seen anything use Mini USB since my PS3 - The controllers designed for it by 8bitdo do make use of USB-C as it makes more sense in their case as you will be plugging it in from time to time to charge it.
Frankly, I understand the choice as the connectors are probably cheaper (even given the price tag of the console) and they're so widespread you really don't have to bother. Even if Type C is coming and catching up, the Micro is still here well established.
I frankly also went from love to hate on the Micro connectors, from love of the widespread standard you find everywhere to hate of their flimsy nature of a short and tiny connector.
Never seen mini USB break or get flimsy over time, but micro? Pretty much all devices I have around.
Mini USB was killed for no reason if you ask me. Size wise it's not even much bigger if anything in the end counting lock tabs.
I haven't used Type-C long enough to be truly convinced it'll fare better - but I agree, I hate dealing with the micro connector, it's too unreliable.
"What's is inside, it's what counts" - This does not compute.
Regular snes cartridges are easy to remove, SD2SNES on the other hand i have to do it from one side and i always worry about pulling out a pin or something.
And here I am using a supaboy because I have no TV!
You can play roms off the sd card as of late February this year.
Great review, thanks! All the info you want, matched with good and relevant video. *clicks subscribe*
I'd be completely down if the cartridge market wasn't so expensive atm. As it is, I'll put on the back of my list as a "if I've got the extra scratch to afford this AND an Everdrive" option. Thanks for the review
Best review so far.
Thank you!
Rikard check the one from My Life is Gaming.
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The deepness of the color palette is a lot different than that of a 1 chip snes or snes Jr. with the hd retrovision cables. I think that this is because the FPGA was created using the original design which implemented the Co-Processor. I believe that this was done due to it just being easier to decipher what those chips actually were and for maximum compatibility.
Wow! i did not know that Super Turrican Director's Cut was found and released! #MINDBLOW!
Apparently, it's the game they originally wanted to ship -- but had to cut down at the last minute as their publisher didn't want to pay extra for cartridges with higher capacity.
Exactly and im waiting years to see/play this version!!!
I hope that Factor5 Indiana Jones Greatest Adventures for the SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis that was cancelled in the last minute, will be released/leaked too...
Jailbreak firm is now available for the Super Nt. Now you can play snes games straight from an sd card loaded in the slot on the console! Google the super nt jailbreak firmware! Be advised, look up the snes games that utilizes special chips. Those games can only be played from the actual cartridge or the sd2snes flash cart which has most of the special chipsets.
I need that future proof super NT
Buy one, then.
I am so going to get one of these. Now I just need a raise.
Here is an updated link, but as usual with good retro videogame stuff, it's out of stock: www.analogue.co/store/#super-nt
I bought one. I love it. Well worth the money. You won't be able to buy one of these 5 years from now and it's the easiest way to play your SNES collection over HDMI. The filters aren't bad, either. Plus, I LOVE the scan lines.
Fantastic review!
Damn! I was so late about this. Haven't heard this Super NT in where I live. Although, I already bought a SN Pro+ from 8bitdo early this year and was wondering it's specifically modeled after SNES. There's no way of me getting news about this magnificent work without me having to know about Analouge's new GBA-like console first which was announced a few weeks ago.
Given the FPGA, they could easily do a firmware update that allows games to be played off the flash cart. However, as you mentioned in previous videos about clone consoles, this one is probably too good a contender and any options for piracy just paint a bulls-eye on their heads for lawsuits.
There was an in-house developed firmware update released for the Analogue NT mini not long after that made the SD cart slot run roms. A similar update from the console creators has already "leaked" for the Super NT.
I might order one of these when they restock them
Noob question(s) about FPGA.
So if i want to compare it to say a computer/CPU, FPGA basically can be programmed to emulate a specific HW physically instead of doing it via SW emulation.
Can you, say emulate a PS2 too if you understand how it works with enough powerful FPGA?
How powerful can FPGAs be?
That's basically the idea, you can program an FPGA at a hardware level to have all the same circuitry that the original console has. It's the same approach Analogue took with the Nt Mini, and can certainly be used for other consoles too. The particular FPGA in this one probably isn't powerful enough to handle the PS2, but I've heard in interviews with the Super Nt's designer that the original PlayStation could be a possibility.
This Does Not Compute Nice, Thanks alot.
Just to chime in about the power of these chips, the designer said that Ps1 is currently the ceiling of what is achievable with FPGA and even the N64 is probably not possible with current technology. The N64 apparently would be incredibly difficult to reverse engineer to make the chip behave like one as well, wich doesn't help.
But in the future? Who knows, we might (probably will) get to Ps2 levels and beyond powerwise, so it will come down to how complicated and time intensive the reverse engeneering process would be.
this is THE review I like. almost complete review.. except lag test but I believe you would mention this if there was any issue.
It's hard to test for lag when playing because it can vary depending on the TV you're using...some are better than others. In general, when I played it everything "felt" right, at least on my TV.
There is no lag from the unit. This is why when the analog adaptor comes out it can support supescope that requires no lag
I was pretty keen after watching review videos this morning, and the $190 price tag is tempting. But $80 shipping to Australia? Fuck that.
They finally did a quality clone console that can also with attachments sold by hyperkin and retrobit, be able to play nes, famicom, genesis, gameboy, gameboy advance. But what about the hyperkin supaboy 1, that console can play all that while also being a portable device and I would prefer that over an snes that while very good, still requires being attached to the tv, but for those who want a great retro console, that would be good with the tv for the better picture.
Great video, subscribing now.
i know like others who had said it but analogue need to get to working on a n64 version they would make a killing in profit especially if they make them in all colors. i'm sure that's in the making
What a beautiful high quality machine. I know they are Nintendo focused but I hope they make a Mega Drive one day.
Yesss! ....Sailor Moon 🌙 ⭐️ ❤️
Does the Super Retro Advance adapter work with this without having to use the composite out?
Love from Minneapolis bro!!
Could you make a comparasion to SupaRetron HD as a cheaper hardware option?
And not forget, it even supports the superscope, that’s right,when analoge nt will release a HDMI to composite adaptor, you can hook it up to an old tv and play yoshi safari on it.
Yeah it’s dumb that they did not included av out right out of the box because their famicom version did contain both outputs .
The reason why the snes nt is way cheaper is because they use plastic rather then aluminum.
johneygd other Video signals like RGB will also be supported by the adapter
That NS yes indeed and am very curious about that nt hdmi adaptor about when it will be released.
I got one and I am going to retire my old SNES the sound and graphics are way more smoother and gorgeous.
I just ordered one today. How long does it takes for it to arrive?
It was actually pretty quick like around 2 weeks.
@@di6245 oh kool. Wats your take on it?
I love it the only issue some games don't play if they have that certain chip in it like Pilot wings but over all its well design a little heavy which I like and like I said better picture and sound which sounds way better on surround sound.
@@di6245 sweet. Sounds like im going to enjpy the hell out of it when it arrives. Thanks!
come on! why it can't read ROMs!!!! we have a card slot! we are almost there!!
Go find Kevtris site, the dude who actually reverse engineered the consoles and wrote the FPGA program, see if he has jailbroken the Super NT just like he did the Analogue NT. If not, go for the NT mini; it is jailbroken, and that means you can update the FPGA firmware to turn it into a SNES, not to mention Sega consoles and some other stuff.
Wow, I want this now!!!
This will be certainly something to consider if/when my original SNES dies. A shame with the SD card slot, can't be used to save games, in case a battery on a cartridge dies.
Would this be safe to use with flashcarts like SD2Snes? I've heard of issues with voltage when used with them, but I hope it's not an issue. Using this with the SD2Snes would be a boon.
Analogue themselves have actually confirmed support for the Everdrive and SD2SNES.
Also do you know how the site processes payments? Do they charge immediately or process payment upon the day it ships? I can't find any information on this. I looked on their store and I literally see no information and would rather not have to pay the price + shipping right away.
They take payment immediately. Considering all but black second run are sold out, I wouldn't wait much longer. Ships beginning of March.
Already have one on the way
I have a question. With simulation hardware do the games suffer with slowdown? Please let me know if games like Super R-Type especially stage 4 suffers with it.
yeah it should run exactly like it does on the snes
Damn, I need this!
Just wondering, do you perhaps know what HDMI revision the Nt is certified for?
It's standard hdmi. HDMI 2.1 is for 4K gaming if that's what ur getting at
Although the Sega Mega Drive HDMI clone you reviewed is pretty awesome for me, this Super NT blows it out of the water.
Oh yeah, night and day difference. Analogue is working on a Mega Drive version, and I think a lot of people will be excited for it.
That's my boy. FF Mystic Quest is underrated imo.
190 USD is 239 CAD right now. Not worth it for me. Neat piece of hardware but I'll stick with my original SNES and play on my CRT.
Hi Colin... it’s going.
It's a beautiful console but a I'm stick with Super Nintendo Jr. The fact of being a mini console.
I'm totally ordering this...omg!
OOOHBILLY OOOHHH BILLY
Do it, got mine and it's the best snes experience your get. Even better than the original as its optimised in so many ways
My question. If I'm not happy with cycle accurate PC emulation of the SNES, will this be any different?
Depends on the source of your unhappiness
Great quality video here, on the SNES clone