Nintendo SNES Classic vs. Analogue Super NT | Neander Meander
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Super NT vs Snes classic edition. Is the Super NT better than the Super NES Classic Edition? Or is the SNES Mini better than the Super NT? This is a comparison between the two consoles.
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Super nt has an official jailbreak that allows you to load roms
Yup you get access to most of the library minus some special chip games. You could also go the everdrive route and get almost 100 percent compatibility with games library.
Sadly it doesn't do MSU enhanced games though...as I did the jailbreak, but that aside, it is pretty awesome!
Or you know just get a retro pie
@@jwylovesknc but then that’s what the debate was over.. emulation or real hardware lol…
Real hardware is better. I've tested both. It's interesting how the more powerful company Nintendo rushed out the SNES classic right before the Super NT released 😳
How in the world do you have so few subscribers, this is some high quality video footage, editing, and voice over work. You are 100% underrated and I hope your channel takes off.
Thank you so much! That means a lot! The best way to get the word out is by sharing it.
I have no idea how or why your channel isn't larger than it is. This is really quality content. I hope you keep up this quality of content and that this channel grows as large as it should be!
Thank you so much for this! I really appreciate you watching. I'm currently working on a pretty big video that's been in the works for quite a while. I'm just about ready to start the editing for it.
Pretty slick review. You've got a great voice and delivery for this sort of content. A couple notes I might add are:
* The included controllers with the SNES Classic have fairly short wires (~3 feet), so unless you have a way to move the console further from the TV you're probably going to sit on the floor.
* It's fairly easy to add unofficial ROMs to the SNES Classic, but the quality of the emulation is generally poor with disappearing sprites and no hi-res feature.
* The SNES Classic comes bundled with a finished, previously unreleased version of StarFox 2. The Super Nt comes bundled with a finished, previously unreleased version of Super Turrican, as well as Super Turrican 2.
* There is a custom firmware for the Super Nt that allows you to backup cartridges to an SD Card and run them from the card itself, as well as store save files on the card instead of the battery system.
* 8bitdo sells inexpensive adapters for Bluetooth controllers to use on the Super Nt.
* A genuine Super Nintendo with a lag-free HDMI upscaler costs more than a Super Nt.
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Not to mention that Analogue does sell an HDMI to RGB converter so you can use it on CRT
I have both the NES and SNES Classic and they are both great when used with Hakchi!
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This is a great video, im surprised it only has around 1200 views
After spending the last couple weeks playing SNES games on a well-implemented FPGA core, I could never go back to emulation, whether through Wii, Switch or a mini console. the responsiveness doesn’t approach that of the original hardware or FPGA.
Super NT is an excellent option, but I’d rather have Mister FPGA any day, for the sheer number of different console cores.
I've haven't use a Mister. It's looks awesome though! The number of ways we can play games now is amazing!
I don't understand why you don't have way more subscribers. Your videos have top quality presentation and you are really well structured in your information. Really hope more people find your videos as I've enjoyed a number of your vids
Wow, thank you! I appreciate that!
Shame that Analogue keep their production low so only way to get one is through scalpers for a high markup. Most Analogue preorders now sell out in a few hours(i would imagine its 80% resellers) because most ends up on ebay.
It's crazy how many end up getting resold on third party sites. There's no good reason why someone who wants one shouldn't be able to get one. I hope Analogue can figure something out with it.
@@NeanderMeander After your video i went on Yahoo auctions here in Japan there are 2 on there for about $800. Its probably just cheaper to wait a few years and buy whatever good upscaler us available fpga mister or whatever it is. I have original late model SNES, saturns and dreamcast so thats a better option for me though it would be nice if they just kept making them or making to order.
Dude! This video is amazing! So well done! 👍
Dude, thank you so much!
subbed - keep goin my man, this video was pro af
Thanks for the sub! It's cool you liked this video
One of the best things on the snes controler was the buttons. Not just the way they were formatted, but the shape. The bottom to buttons are pillows while the top 2 are concave. This is such a slight yet amazing design choice which makes it so you dont accidentally push a button you didnt want to and it's just more comfortable.
Also, I wanna say that I get so happy when you upload! I really love talking about games and systems even when I dont know a whole lot about them. Dont ever stop!
You’re so right about the buttons! They nailed it with the button design!
Thanks so much! I really do appreciate the support!
As someone from australia i can say we had ZERO problems with the non concave buttons.
I would definitely get a Super NT if it was less expensive and/or readily available. Great video!
Yeah, it was a hard pill to swallow at $190 plus shipping. But I knew I would use it. Its lived up to all my expectations! I jumped on it right when they had the last restock.
Neander Meander How often do they restock?
I don’t know. I bought mine a few years ago. Their website says they’re “sold out”, not “discontinued”. So there might be some hope.
@@NeanderMeander analogue has made a announcement on Twitter that they will be in stock again sometime this month or next month 😀
If you don’t mind running roms, Mister FPGA is an excellent option. Best $130 I’ve spent on gaming in decades.
I would argue, the Super NT wins the quality battle, as it runs almost everything to perfection , while the SNES mini is not meant to run games other than the ones coming with it. Granted, not everything be there for everyone by default, but the fact is: The Super NT will run by far more games the intended way. It’s not even close.
You are absolutely right. Over the years I’ve played the Super NT far more than the SNES Classic. It’s just better in every way.
This is such a great review. Exactly what I was looking for.
Awesome! I’m glad you liked it. I should revisit the Analogue consoles for future videos
The cool thing about the Super NT is that it has a jailbreak that lets you download roms and popping them in the SD card slot, OR dump your own cartridges and saves.
I sold my boxed copy of Earthbound but I dumped my ROM and save onto an SD card and played it on my Super NT and Analogue Pocket.
You are right! That's so cool that we can do that with the Analogue devices.
I've never seen a copy of Earthbound in real life. I've only ever played some of the rom on the SNES Classic Edition. That really cool you had one!
The Super NtT is a better system, but the better price to performance is the SNES classic.
I got back and forth on not owning any of the new console minis.... When I see them in the store I'm like I know I want this but never pull the trigger. Love the video!
I ended up picking up most of the major mini consoles. They’ve been fun to relive those old games and discover new ones. I never had a Genesis, so that one has been extremely enlightening to play. I think the biggest benefit they offer are their controllers. Playing those retro games with the controller they were designed to be played with is absolute bliss.
Great vid man, you brought up some great points between both systems
Thank you! It was a fun one to make!
This video was very well made. Great job!
Thank you! It’s one of my older videos so it’s not as polished as my newer videos. It’s always fun to see comments on these past videos.
Amazing work, thank you so much!
Thank you for watching!
I love my NES and SNES classic! They’re by far the best entry point for those consoles imo. The Super NT is very cool but not practical for me or anyone else without any of the games. That’s what makes the classic systems so great for me: they help me catch up on all those old games for cheap in great quality with a fantastic controller.
This is spot on! I love the Classic Edition consoles! I'm glad Nintendo made them and bundled them with the correct controllers. The price alone for both was an easy choice to pick them up. Those game would have cost a fortune to buy the original cartridges.
Just buy an SD Cart... Sorted.
An evercart is an option with the super Nt
Nice video, I really love your content 👌🏾
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate it!
I LOVE my Analogue Super NT….LOOOOOVE it!!! All day every day I’d take it over the old SNES.
I love mine too! It is absolutely amazing!
If you jailbreak the super nt and run games from the sd card , does it run without lag ?
It's an FPGA, so it should be like you're running original cartridges on original hardware.
I never saw one of these on store shelves. When I got mine I immediately added Space Megaforce and Actraiser!
You didn't? I saw them available for a while.
SuperNT has a SDCARD input/slot so you can play any ROM on it.
so does any laptop with video/RGB output built since 1997.
That's right. I've known about the jailbreak. I haven't done it to mine yet, but we'll see
I love your videos, stay the way you are!!🎉
Thank you! I'm really glad you like them! I don't plan on changing anything anytime soon
I love my Super NT! I also have purchased a Mega SG(along with the adapters for Game Gear, Sega Card and Mark 2, or whatever the precursor to SMS is lol), and a NT Mini Noir(the FPGA NES!) I'm looking forward to their Pocket and TurboDuo FPGA consoles also! I love my retro games!! 🎮😊
Awesome! I also picked up the NT Mini Noir, and I love it! If Analogue ever decides to restock the Mega SG I'll grab it as well. Thanks for watching the video!
@@NeanderMeander I just got an email from Analogue saying they've restocked the Mega SG, Super NT and the DAC and selling them August 9th at 8am PST. Thought you'd like to know just in case!! 🖖🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🎮😊Marcus
@@NeanderMeander Update, just got my Analogue DAC today!! Yay!
@@SkakinBaconMedia Awesome! I got mine a few days ago! I haven't hooked it up yet
Is it worth getting a Super NT if I already have a classic with roms
That depends on what you're looking for. Is console accuracy important to you? If it is, then the $200 Super NT is the closest it gets to playing a Super Nintendo. If you only want to play SNES games, I would say the Classic is a great way to go.
Great work and presentation here
Thank you!
The Super NT might use actual cart. But it's still emulation. It's CPU is emulating the original Ricoh 5A22 CPU and as such will again introduce some amount of input lag.
You're right, it is hardware emulation.
If so it’s so minimal I don’t notice it. I have had zero issues and noticed no lag.
For me I love having the actual cart.
As a gamer/collector of snes games I prefer the nt. I boxed up my original snes console because I only have a 4k TV and felt like the converter to hdmi was creating lag issues. I also don't like roms and emulators very much for whatever reason....
The NT is my preferred way to play SNES games as well. But I can appreciate what Nintendo did with the classic.
Where can you buy these consoles from?
Analogue’s website
I just tried both on a gaming monitor and you just can’t beat the response time and picture quality of the super nt. I’m sure there’s still some lag but playing just feels so instantaneous with 0 picture noise
The main downside of a super nt is you better have your Super Nintendo games ready or else get ready to pay up lol. I see people saying you can play roms on it but what’s the point of paying all that money for a console that plays games in real time just to play Roms on it.
So true! The Super NT is the better experience. But as you said, the games will cost you if you don’t have them.
As for the roms, from what I understand, playing them from the SD card is the same as playing a cartridge. The experience is no different. But I’m with you. My Super NT runs the firmware from Analogue and is only used to play original cartridges. Luckily I still have quite a few from my childhood.
I went with the Analogue Super NT. I like the fact that it plays physical media. Plus I don't have to use a converter like I would have to on the original SNES to use it on my 4K TV. I got the 8 bitdo controllers to go with it. I love the little system.
Yeah, I play my SNES games on the Super NT well. It’s amazing! I should really revisit the Analogue consoles in future videos.
@@NeanderMeander The company is great. I also have the Analogue Pocket which is also a nice system to have. My GB,GBC and GBA games get lots of use from it.
@@lightninggod4348 I have a pocket as well! I just opened it up a few weeks ago. It had been sitting on my shelf for months. I don’t know why I didn’t open it sooner. It’s amazing!
@@NeanderMeander do you have the dock too? I have it set up, but have yet to actually use it. I didn't have a controller for it before, but now I do. Not sure how the image will look.
@@lightninggod4348 I do have the dock, but I haven’t used it either. I’ve heard it looks amazing
How can you compare the Super Nintendo classic to a Super Nintendo that needs physical cartridges the classic mini gives you the entire collection of all the games ever released you don’t need to blow in the cartridges anymore it plays on the 4K TV better Quality saves your games the original Super Nintendo is pure trash want to go buy cartridges I don’t think so
Thanks for the comment! It's really good to hear differing opinions. Here's a few thoughts I had after reading your comment: The SNES Classic Edition has exceptional value. Even keeping it unmodded you have a great collection of games. Though, you can mod it and put whatever games you want on there. Though, the Super NT is not just a Super Nintendo from the 1990's. It's a modern Super Nintendo. It outputs in 1080p which is a better resolution compared to the SNES Classic Edition that outputs in 720p. Also, the Super NT can be jail-broken to play whatever Super Nintendo games you want play off the SD card. Also, the SNES Classic Edition uses emulation to play games. In contrast, the Super NT is an FPGA based system that is cycle accurate to an original Super Nintendo. I thought comparing the two was valid taking into account what each console does.
Keep in mind that these videos are just for fun and shouldn't be taken as some sort of religious truth. It's good to hear differing opinions. Thanks again for commenting
@@NeanderMeander all I’m saying is physical on Super Nintendo sucked I was upset when Nintendo Switch was cartridges again cause I thought we would run into the same problems we used to on NES Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64 need to blow in them when Nintendo changed it to CDs starting with GameCube that was a big change everyone was doing CDs xbox PlayStation Sega I hated cartridges I’m surprised I’m not having problems with Nintendo Switch cartridges don’t need to blow in them
Great editing!
Thank you!
What is super nt?
It’s a console made by Analogue that plays Super Nintendo games over HDMI. It emulates the hardware with an FPGA.
3:21 ouch poor thing (:0
I'm lucky enough to own both systems, both are great. But, the Super NT is well worth the purchase if your a fan of the Super Nintendo. I agree with the comments regarding the controller, such a brilliant design. Great video, well done.
Thanks! I agree, the Super NT is worth the price if you are a fan of the Super Nintendo. I play mine all the time. It's been one of my best purchases.
Why not tell people who watch this video that you can jailbreak a Super NT to play ROMs off an SD card in about 30 seconds? There are only about 10-12 games you'd actually need the carts for due to the SFX chip.
I made this a while ago and I was worried about saying stuff like that. I don't care about that anymore. I should revisit this video topic.
@@NeanderMeander all good. The same guy who made The official firmware also makes the jailbreak firmware. Kind of a very open secret. The only thing they can get you in trouble really is to link to ROM sites or whatever.
The snes is my second favorite Nintendo console of all time. It's a timeless console and the super NT future proofs the system! Great video man!
What’s your favorite console?
@@NeanderMeander the switch of course!
I'm not a big fan of Nintendo hardware overall but I think a couple times they have hit the ball out of the park!
The Switch is definitely great!
Yeah, the SNES is definitely my favorite console!
Well, you can do what I did is what I did is I took the membranes, buttons, D pad, and all the insides and shell and assemble a brand new controller. All you need is a old super Nintendo controller with a good PCB board and a good cable swap out the shell and buttons and membranes reassemble and bada bing brand new super Nintendo controller with a super Nintendo controller port you’re welcome.😊
Good idea! I'm really going to do this
I am still waiting voor the super nt
They are out of stock at the moment.
Hopefully the will be in stock this or next month as was announced 🙏😀
Hopefully they restock soon! It's absolutely worth the money!
What a great video!!
Where in the hell can you get a super Nintendo that takes hdmi?
You can buy the Super NT right now from Analogue’s website. They are doing the final run on them, so I would highly suggest getting one now.
And now you can buy a $20 DIY kit from 8Bitdo and convert these to 2.4 GHz controllers that will work with the original SNES. :)
That's pretty awesome
Awesome job!!
Thanks! I took a look at your channel, it’s pretty good stuff!
@@NeanderMeander thanks bud
Great vid! But the Pixel Perfect mode doesn't squish the image lol. It's integer scaled. It's exactly what the size you get on an original NTSC SNES.
Yep, you're right! Pixel perfect displays uniform square pixels giving games a squished look compared to the 4:3 image you get from playing games on a CRT TV.
@@NeanderMeander You're incorrect. It gives you a 4:3 aspect ratio image lol. It is just scaled on an exact integer scale. It isn't a 1:1 ratio lol. It's 4:3 but wont fill out the entire verical space( on a 16:9 display) unless you play on an actual 4:3 display. Versus non integer scaling will fill up all vertical space as each original pixel isn't just 1, 4, 9, etc pixels it can be 1.4, 1.8 etc. Hence integer versus non integer. The point is it isn't square it's 4:3 both of the modes we are talking about are 4:3. Just one is scaled using integer scaling. It isn't squished compared to its original it's exactly the same.
@@LargeNuts First of all, I'm not going to argue with you on this. You clearly have some point to prove and I'm not one to argue with people. I just want to clarify that I understand that the image is a 4:3 aspect ratio for both. CRT's display images with pixels that aren't perfectly square. They are wider than they are tall. Creating an image that looks a little stretched. Pixel perfect displays the image with perfect square pixels, pixels that aren't wider than they are tall, thus making the image look squished compared to what was displayed on a CRT TV. That is all I'm saying. I know that pixel perfect is integer scaled. I also know that there are people who know way more than I do on this topic. However, I know that when I play a game on a CRT then turn around and play the same game in pixel perfect mode on an HDTV, that game doesn't look at stretched and appears to have a squished look. You're welcome to send me another message with lol's and comments saying I'm incorrect.
@@NeanderMeander You shouldn't be giving incorrect information. The Pixel Perfect mode doesn't squish the image compared to playing on an original console with a CRT. The point is that it's the same. I have been playing video games for over 35 years and have also been a major contributor to 6 popular emulators as a developer. You have no idea what you are talking about and are making incorrect claims about other people's works. I politely tried to correct your ignorance and explained it to you in the simplest way so you might understand. But instead you were offended you were incorrect and became rude. What a great content creator lol. Going to post this interaction on Reddit to hopefully let more people know in the community what kinds of content creator you are.
@@LargeNuts I'm not claiming to be right. I could absolutely be wrong. I don't have a background in game development so I'm going off of what I see. All I said was that I'm not going to argue with you.
decent video. should have mention all the possibility of moding too.
The snes jr is my favorite 🤩
I love it!
I am happy now Super NT.
The Super NT is amazing!
Nice video!
Thank you!
I prefer the Super NT.
Beautifull video
Thank you!
Snes mini far inferior…. I like you proration value but completely disagree with said content.
This was made so long ago, I have no idea what I said. If it was that the Super NT is the best way to play, I was on something.
Mine has Dk Country 2 and 3, Chrono Trigger, and more 😉🤫
It sounds like you've hacked yours. I usually stick to unmodified consoles for my videos. Though those games are great! I still need to pick up a Chrono Trigger cart.
@@NeanderMeander I understand, and fyi, adding games is a simple process and completely realizes the Snes Classic mini's true potential.
everdrive on super NT no better way ..
It’s pretty great! Did you know you can jailbreak the firmware to play roms off an SD card?
i.got.a.super nt n i dont regreat gettin one..if u can get the super nt its a must buy....
I absolutely agree! I don’t regret buying mine either. I use it all the time! If anybody has a chance to get one, don’t pass it up!
I really want one of these do you know if they will produce any more of them or do I have to find one used to buy?
@@FostaFunk I don't know if they'll make any more of them. It seems like people want them, so it would make sense for Analogue to make more.
SNES classic is nothing special, more or less a ripoff, $80 for emulation! come on bro. plus is no longer available for $80 so good luck.
however, the production quality of your work is superb
Thanks for watching! I'm happy to hear that you like my work. I wouldn't say the SNES Classic is a ripoff. Emulation isn't ideal for me an many others, but some people don't mind emulating their games. Getting an official system loaded with games with for a low prices initially was a good deal! You're right that you can't find one for $80 anymore. Paying over $80 for one now isn't worth it.
Try double the price these days.
It's crazy how much the price gaming consoles have gone up! I should revisit this topic.
@@NeanderMeander yep, the scalpers are going full throttle smh.
It’s super frustrating trying to find anything at a fair price.
@@NeanderMeander sure is! It's crazy.