Coping Crown - Understanding the Coped Joint
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2018
- This video shows how a cope works and what to do to ensure a perfect cope every time.
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What was a slap my forehead moment for me was that crown molding is just a solid molding piece with some of material in the corner gone. Great explanation of coping. Thanks.
Sir I've been a trim carpenter in the Hamptons and the east end of Long Island for 30 yrs and learned my trade from men before me. Your vid is outstanding as I'm not a teacher of the trade so this vid demonstrates the reason coping is important. I don't have time to teach but I would gladly refer to this vid to those who want to learn. A true art that not readily recognized as such. Walls and wood are not perfect but to a craftsman that knows how to play them both will create beauty!
Trim carpenters are true craftsmen. I appreciate your skill.
This is the best tutorial I have ever seen on the proper techniques to cut trim.
This is probably the best video I've ever seen in my entire life. Outstanding!
Definitely the best explanation of coped joints I've seen. Personally I didn't think the annoying music was necessary but otherwise very well done Sir.
WOW!!! I'M A PIPE FITTER/FABRICATOR AND THIS VIDEO HAS JUST BLOWN THE DOORS WIDE OPEN WHEN IT COMES TO DOING MITER CUTS AND OR COPES!! EVEN IN MY CRAFT. JOB WELL DONE Y'ALL !!!!!
By far the most helpful coping joint video ever. Didn't tell us how to cope, but how to make copes perfect. So good.
You couldn't buy education like this. Thanks from the 🇬🇧
I just did a crown molding work as a side job just a few days ago. I never done crown molding work even though I'm a journeyman carpenter. I realized that the room I did was 2° to 3° out of square. I was cutting with miter saw, and I had to cut 47° or under cutting 43°. My next job I'll cope the corners. My crown molding work turned out nicely even though it was my first try. I never took a classroom training when I took apprenticeship training when I was taking classes under Southwest carpenters union. But I'm always learning new things from watching RUclips tutorials. Thanks for the video. 👍 It's fun learning new things.
To Joseph Braia , I wouldn’t say this video is for the “beginner “. If you have coped before, you can completely understand what he is trying to show and explain. Excellent video !
I’ve done a lot of molding with what I consider great results, but I wish I had watch this video four years ago! Game changer with respect to time and certainty of the joint and initial cut. 👍
The BEST video I have ever seen on coping, excellent.
Wow, what professionalisms. That was perfect made from an experienced teacher
This video takes the wizardry out of coping I chopped up 24 feet yesterday trying to get a proper cope and failed!
I have no idea who could dislike this video?
Thank you very much for taking the time to make this.
You need to do it by hand to get a proper coped joint. There are jigs you can buy to attach to jig saws, but these are generally for on the job use. A couple joints here or there is better off done by hand. It's not that hard with a few practice cuts.
Wow
Crow is cut upside down
Cope back 45° follow profile of trim
Oh cut one side of inside corner on 90° . Cut the other side of the inside corner on a inside 45° . That's the one you cope
Sooo helpfull, clear, easy and I can understand how 45 works in geometry.....the teachers at school should watch this videos!!!!!!!!!
Great video! I just finished putting up Crown moulding in my kitchen. I stressed about which method to use to cope the joints. I finally decided on using the Dremel 4300 using the carbide shaping bit. With a little practice I became very proficient at using it. I was using solid white wood moulding and this bit cut through it like butter. I highly recommend this method!
I've done a lot of crown and never had it explained this well, wish I could have watched this 20 yrs ago, it would have taken some of the guess work out.
The best teacher! I wish I saw this before I put a single piece of sprung crown molding
Wish I had watched you before I installed crown molding in my bathroom. A 1/16 or an 1/8 makes a big difference to an OCD home owner.
Outstanding! .... Best tutorial I’ve seen on coping. I particularly like the way you show how to identify and diagnose problems.
You convinced me coping is better ...great video ......I was curious why miter cuts are faster but people prefered coping but you explained it perfect
Fantastic video sir. This is why you should pay attention in HS geometry class. You would be a leg up in the finish carpentry profession. Bravo!
Thanks Pythagoras 😂 really the measuring on a square should help me my next job.
Hello, I just finished watching your Understanding the Coped Joint video and by all standard it is very educational, to say the least. I am a DIY and during my own home improvement projects. I decided I wanted to crown mold the walls and ceiling in the open area of home to impress myself and wife. You introduced me to a lot to consider. Crown molding can be a little intimidating but after viewing your video I have a new sense of confidence, I can do this. Thank you so very much for this educational tool and please keep up the good work. I have subscribed.
Cordially,
RE Morgan
Decatur, GA
Of course I find this video after I cope and fill. Still came out good but I was looking for great.
I do very little crown work but I always wondered why the crown never seemed to set right in the saw. There was always this little bit of movement and now I know where it comes from. Thank you for revealing this to me.
Thanks! I learned alot. Excellent video.
Thanks for the great info. It really helped me start to understand how coping works!
Thanks for taking your time to make great video
I think your name should be Professor Copemaster... What an excellent video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for this excellent tutorial. The first time I installed crown molding I didn't have a problem with coping. Years later I had a terrible time with gaps and couldn't figure out why. I blamed it on the house settling and/or lower quality molding. I ended up using coped samples cut at different angles that I would use to determine the miter angle to cut on the coped piece. It worked but I knew it was a workaround for a problem I just didn't understand.
Amazingling informative! Thank you for taking the time to post this!
This video just helped me so much. Thank you.
Great video. I learned a good amount of valuable info. Thank you.
Incredibly helpful! Thanks!
Got to be the best information about coping. Thanks.
Thank you for such an informative video.
Wow! Excellent lesson!!!!
Best coping explanation ever!
Thank you for these video coz im also intrigue by how it is made and done and thank you for sharing an expert on this matter...
very useful information. thank you so much for that presentation
Awesome video...thanks!
Very well explained. Thank you!!!!
Thank You! Best explanation ever.
Excellent class....thank you!!!!!
Wow there is a ton of amazing info in this video.
Phenomenal explanation. Thank you
Ive been doing trim for over 25 years and cope everything. The ole school way, copping saw
It's the best way! I used to build log cabins too, and I would cope my logs with a chain saw. Turned out perfect!
Damm good teacher. Love learning something new. And I got the carpenter quiz..
Fantastic information. Thank you
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
I learned something. Thank you! 🙏
Thank you Bill!
Would have loved seeing the coping cut techniques. Its my only slow-down doing home after home of crown coping for years. In Hawaii remote project I used my skill saw 100% free hand for miters and coping cuts. Thanks for this great video!
Very nice. Explanation. I guess that’s why I learn to do that that way
Living in NW Ohio there's no such thing as a square corner in these old houses lol. Thank you!
Thanks for a great video
That's why a good trim carpenter is worth his weight in gold. Great explanation.
Thank you so much
Best crown video ever!!
Best video on youtube.
Everything you say is accurate. I have however stopped coping, mostly. The world of tools has changed so much. My miter saw is very precise, and my little brad nailer has no problem shooting brads from behind, into a mitered corner. So. I assemble corners with one short leg, using a little glue.. And both wild ends are cut square. The next corner needs just one measurement, and can be cut one hair long so it snaps in. Boom. I also think that better results on the long spans are achieved by cutting the crown square where they join.
Thank You!!
Great video ….every detail….
Great video. Can I use coping crown molding for external 45 degrees cust?
I love coping. I dont do it with crown unless I need to but I always cope my base board.
Great vid fir a beginner to understand
Thank you
Thanks
At 6.05, you were say the 45 degree cut is not square. I have noticed this on my cuts a few days ago. Why is it not square?
Thankyou
When you are explaining baseboards @ 5:36 into the vid, after you removed the coped material the 2 pieces fit like a glove but seemed as if the heights of the boards no longer matched. why is that? great video
Thank you! I have been struggling with this on my crown. But the only thing I'm not clear about is cutting it to the right depth. Do you mean having it nested, measuring in the amount of the ceiling projection and marking at the top of the crown? I wish you actually showed the cut being made.
@@copemasterproducts ah yes okay. So basically just make sure you have it nested correctly for the particular crown you're using and it should work..... Thank you again!
Great
one small but important issue; not only does your 45 cut have to be on the mark, but your cut also needs to be square from the saw fence. This can be hard to do on large crowns that are too big to use crown stops.
That’s where a jig one can make easy to solve that issue
wow!
I like the way you present your videos however, I've never heard of a cope. So I'm trying to figure why would put that molding up on wall and ceiling? If these tutorials are for the DIY then what's a cope line. This video isn't the one to watch first and I think you need to let ppl know that. By the way I really like your video about the reciprocating saw. Thank you for all the videos cause I know you putting them out the to help
Regarding the first mitre cut, if you know your wall corner is not 90 degrees, but say 92, would you still make the cut at 45, or half of the corner, i.e. 46?
@@copemasterproducts Many thanks Bill. I'm slowly getting the hang of coping (scribing?), your video helped, as did your reply :)
One thing I'm not going to try again in a hurry is coping plaster cornice ('crown molding'?), what a mess and too fragile on the thin edges!
All the best,
Sam
Wow.
Hi there, thanks for your explanations!
Whats the strategy: lets say I do crown in a room with 4 corners, simple. Do I fit the first length with both ends square cut? then one end coped and one end square. That leaves the last one with 2 coped ends!? How do you achieve best results there? How / where do you measure? Cheers
@@copemasterproducts Thank you Bill for your quick response. Yes, makes sence.
Good job I'm waiting you because I seen your hands BUDDY they look like mine sorry I meant watching you anyway keep it up
Brilliant video that quickly taught me...how stupid I am cos I didn't understand a thing! Sure it made sense to the pros though.
Very good video, this info must be foe pro because he totally lose me even though he repeated every thing several time. I only have one question? How do you make a cope cut?
Great video but that music so monotonous it just takes away from the instruction get rid of it and your video will be 1000%
excellent but for the music. Silence is golden.
Picky picky
Yea music ruined it. But thats just constructive criticism
How do you cope a 45 degree wall for a chair rail? Back cutting @ 45degrees does not work
Bill Shaw Copemaster yes. Removing material from that piece makes sense. I’ll give it a try. Thank you
Bill, you may want to have that spot on your right hand biopsied. I just found skin cancer on my nose last year. Not trying to be an internet troll. Great video.
You were too late. He passed away.
If you ain't coping, you're a hack. Excellent video.
Agreed!!!
The average, non-lazy homeowner can do an 80-85% job compared to a carpenter and save 75% of the money. The average carpenter can't walk into a datacenter and be an engineer at even 5% job capacity. By all means though, call people hacks if it makes you feel better about yourself and your trade.
@@sly9263 Hey Bobby, I'm not a carpenter, I'm an engineer. I can pretty much do anything around my house. Learning how to cope isn't difficult and looks 1000X better than mitering and caulking. So yes, if you're not coping inside corners, you are a hack. If it's too much for you learn, then sorry to offend you buttercup. I've saved a lot of money around my house, taking the time to learn how to things.
Nick Huber you forget that people can’t afford the labor for this kind of thing. You’re trying to save money so you do it yourself, but people who are trying to have a low budget job simply can’t get the premium package if they don’t pay premium. If you’re not a carpenter then you don’t understand the trade and how carpenters help people and don’t always get to do the premium work they want simply bc the customers can’t afford it.
@@carsongoodman5581 I'm simply saying most homeowners, for whatever reason, don't take the time to learn how to do anything. Yes, there are jobs around my house that I would never attempt to do. But, basic plumbing, electrical or carpentry work isn't that difficult if you want to learn.
I got it :)
I use a Hitachi 8 1/2 sliding compound saw which I mastered on the angles. I like to cut my crown flat when I mitre my corners. By making a perfect 90 degree inside corner a 1’ long each way, glue them with CA glue, and do a dry fit. This way I can mark the ceiling projection in place without drywall finishes changing my angles. I snap lines on the ceiling, apply dabs of adhesive (usually PL Premium) behind it about a 1/4”. Attach my crown along the line first, then fit the wall last. People tend to sight that line for quality
Another great video marred by a distracting soundtrack. Love the commentary, but the music is totally unnecessary.
Is there a “super like”? Now it all makes sense...
Top video, demystifies the cope. Video would be better with no music.
Thanks for the good info on preparing for cope cutting a joint but I just watched 23 minutes of a video and the narrator never cuts a coped joint.
Start with understanding how your shirt sleeve fits
I never understood why people would do the coping until now
What I want to know is why you can't buy premade corners for mouldings?
That way all cuts would simply be square cuts from corner to corner, and
your 45% angles would already be set for ceilings and walls? It would
solve a lot of problems. Especially for DIYers.
How come I never see people cut crown flat on table.....thats the way I learned to cut.....with compound miter
It always cracks me up guys that don't know how to miter but they know how to cope
Wow just fot a PHD in coping.
Great video, would be better without the music over your voice.