I did this for the first time today!!! My husband did the cuts, I did the coping. I put my hubby’s angle grinder (with the flap like you have) in a vice though because I’m not strong enough to hold that thing. It came out perfect! 112 linear feet DONE in an hour!!!! We are never looking back! Thank you so much for this post!
kevin kelly it was the cheap plastic stuff that melts when you cope it. Lol I let it sit in the wind of the flap disc and then could pop the scraps right off when they cooled down. Would have been easier with wood but we had a tight budget.
kevin kelly He is doing it on wood and I have seen other videos with it on wood. None on the plastic stuff we got. So I think it would be easier on wood. It was easy peasy!!
My father taught his 6 boys coping saw when we were just kids, for me that 60 yrs ago. IF he were alive today I'd freak him out using your technique. Best I can do now is show my bros. Thanks Bud, you are an artist.
I’ve been doing this almost 40 years. I’ve tried dremels for the back cut, but never considered or thought of using an angle grinder. So thanks for that. And congratulations. It is refreshing to see a young guy take pride in his work these days. A lot of jobs I go to finish, I look at how some of the trim or crown was done and just shake my head. You are going to be very successful. Word of mouth and reputation wil make you a sought after commodity. Great video
I agree. Very rare these days.I had over 50 apprentices only 7 are still in the trade. Just enjoy seeing someone taking pride and doing it right. I stumbled across this video for a small project glad I did . Bought extra stock just to try to do it right to make it look good. Refrigeration Tech by trade but I don't shy away from a small project like I've got. If I needed all crown done I'd hire it out. Sometimes you gotta let the pros take over.
In addition to your fine carpentry skills, you're also a very good teacher. Thank you for patiently explaining the fine points of your craft. It really helps those of us who are still learning. Really enjoying your channel.
Ps your videos are uniformly excellent and I learn something every time I watch! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience. I forgot to mention that, I should’ve said that first before I asked the question!
"But that's it. That's the little process..." haha, man you are humble. You are awesome at that, wish all contractors took the care and concern that you do to make it a quality end product! Very nice.
So cool dude. I'm an electrician but you know, I do things around the house too other than electrical work. This idea with the grinder is awesome. Now I have a reason to buy the M18 Fuel grinder! Thank you!!
I'm a carpenter, but not a finish guy. I come here to brush up on my finish skills and learn the right way to do things. This guys good at what he does and very informative. The blade he refers to in this video for coping was about $8 at Home Depot. Well worth the money for the time it saves knocking down the trim. Works well with solid wood. Thanks for the videos.
Nice job and excellent instructive video. 30 yrs ago whilst fitting out my home with colonial style, native timber architrave, skirting and scotia boards, I too got tired of coping and guess what......I also discovered using a grinder was a far more efficient way of creating that perfect corner. Well done.
And I always thought psychiatrists prescribed things to make coping easier. After watching this video things are clear now! You're very skilled and professional. Incredible work!!!
I come from a masonry background before getting into carpentry and woodworking. So a grinder is like an extension of a limb for me. This is going to change my life! Thanks man!
...you are the only other person besides myself i've seen use a grinder to cope crown in at least 10 years...by far the quickest and best way to go about it...
Thank you for sharing. One day I will use your awesome advice. Though Drywall is the main stuff I do, painting is my secondary. I have to say painters must love working after you do a job. Caulking after your work looks like it would be easy.
Hey Bro, thanks for sharing. I've been a framing carpenter in L.A. since like 2001. For the last year,finish carpentry has been paying my bills and most of that knowledge has come from you. I appreciate what you do. Thank you
Paul Jmr I’ve tried a coping saw. I have a hard time controlling the blade. I would probably have my wife do this. They don’t call me Shakey John for nothing. I’m a surveyor, just not a very good one.
@@paul_jmr8022 So you are against taking short cuts? Why? I bet you use an electric miter saw don't you? That is a short cut. My dad used to do his crown molding miters with a miter box and a hand miter saw....so to him using the new electric sliding miter saws is a short cut. Sort of like taking the jet airliner instead of the old piston engine driven aircraft. What about your TV, still watching B&W? Let those who come up with a better mousetrap rule the day and pass on their knowledge so that we can all do the job a little quicker and a little better.
I just used a flap disc coping my first crown job. Very easy and successful. I also want to add that I purchased a speedcope from Rockler woodworking and was not impressed. I also want to add that I used a Dremel to clean out any small areas in between the smaller details. I have 40 years experience as a concrete carpenter and I am really enjoying the trim work process and these videos definitely help out. Thanks!
I've had a Mikita angle (4") grinder for 40 yrs. Used for everything related to tile stone wood plastic metal. Never broke always working. When I started doing trim I progressed from sandpaper to adding files then it hit me, the grinder. My skill at fine work improved immediately. Man was I happy. Solid confidence, so comforting.I can imagine how many converts you have who can't wait to try it. The ca glue is a great one also.
Me too 40 years, but I have to ask. This is what you use if you can't find a coping saw right? The fact that's it's done free hand with a grinder has too add some control difficulty no matter what the experience. Though I have to admit this is one more tool of knowledge too add to ones repertoire. Still a good video.
@@garpikemike1 So you favor this over a coping saw? I'm just saying I did a whole lot of finish work, what I'm asking is 'if you have a grinder and a coping saw on the table you'd pick the grinder? I was just curious that's all I never seen no one do it like this so naturally I had questions. Like the precision of using a grinder on wood. But if I find myself without a coping saw I'd use grinder,so again good video.Lesson learnt.
@@Call0fGodZ Ok. Maybe so in that case. I use neither myself. I have an oscilating tool, and a miter saw. Does the same job, but faster. When I was a kid I had a coping saw for a fun tot. It now sits on my wall for nostalgia. Actually, no one uses them on my crew, or any that I know of really. Theres just better and faster ways now; have been for a while. Your thoughts?
I did my first crown moulding job yesterday using a cheap Harbor Freight angle grinder and a flap disc. Hard to believe how easy it was. It came out great, considering that this was my first time doing this. I would have never thought to do it this way without seeing this video a few months ago. Thanks!
Adrian Wilson I started by using a oscillating Dremel. Cutting it horizontal to base boards. Then go back with a Dremel rotary to clean everything up. It turns out great.
We use the Dremel 543 1-1/4” cutting and shaping wheel. Works well on soft wood. On hardwood the grinder will remove stock much faster but the Dremel 543 will get in much tighter details. If you have a lot of hardwood to cope having both on hand will be the fastest.
Same here. I've been a carpenter since 1975, mostly framing , exterior trim and some interior trim for the first 15 years. Now I do remodeling, so do a lot of everything. When I do crown or base, I've always coped with a coping saw, until a few years ago I started using the jigsaw. That works great too, but u do have to fine tune with a sanding disc. Or sanding block. I'm working with a flat crown now, no curves. Very little forgiveness. It takes the disc to get it down. So it does work. Good video. Never tried that quick glue. Gonna have to investigate it.
Thank you for such a great video. I've been doing this type of work for 45 years and I learned something new today, going to try the grinder. Your work is impeccable, you'll go far!
I been doing it this since your first video on it as well. And the sandpaper glued to a piece..that tip may even be better then the grinder lol. But bro..pull out your kreg table and clamp your work down so you have 2 hands for the grinder. So much more control and if you can rest your hand on something even better. But awesome job. And just trying to help bc the tips I got from you are priceless
@@ronh9384 its sandpaper glued to base,crown, shoe..whatever you are coping. He first back cut it with the grinder..then used the piece with the sandpaper glued to it ..to match the profile exactly. I found a roll of self adhesive sandpaper on Amazon. I believe its from Porter cable and it's like 4" x maybe 50' but it works great. I actually have a few pieces of my most used trim already made up and keep them in my trim with my guns,glue,nails ect and I'm telling you no matter how you went about coping b4 this is the cats meow. Its impossible to get a better fit with any other method. It's like running wood through a jointer..flawless!
Hi Richard, just wanted to say how I enjoy watching your videos. I’m a builder myself and I get a lot of value from your videos. I’ve been using an air belt sander for almost 10 years, which I find gives me great control and saves me a lot of time. Keep it up Richard!
I been using a makita gv 5000 since 2000 with a used 60 grit disc. It is faster and better than the coping saw. And, my paring is so thin and clean that even when the walls are askew, i can carefully compress the coped end to a perfect fit. Glad you posted this. Folks think im crazy having only 1 tool do a better job in half the time.👍🏼
Been doing this for years. Get a hard plastic backer disk at HD. Trim it down to 1/4 " smaller than the 4 1/2" sanding disks. You can get a knife edge cut in tight spaces. Works great on everything,hardwood to MDF.. Use different grits 36 to 100 depending on how aggressive you want to be. Good content and work! Keep it up!
I thought I was going to be in trouble, saw other videos that use a coping saw. I can do this with a dremel tool, it may take a bit longer but thanks for the idea!!!
You just gave me a great idea i was thinking i dont have a grinder maybe buy one but i do have a dremel and few discs i can use! this guy as always makes great video plus your idea im ready to go!
An old boatbuilder showed me this about 12 yrs ago, He called it his "Round Plane". With a bit of practice, there really isn't any shape you can't take on! It's amazing how quickly the grinder becomes your go-to tool once you've mastered it!
Thanks very much for this episode. I just finished remodeling my condo and used your angle grinder technique on all my baseboard moulding. Worked great, very clean and professional results and a real time saver as well. :-)
Here is another pro-tip for those just starting to do this method. If you're having difficulty with going over your line, use a finer grit flap disk. It remove less material and will be more accurate. Once you get good, get progressively more aggressive disks to speed up production
Been remodeling my condo and was getting ready to do a whole lot of baseboard and some bannister wall tops. Found this video and it gave me a good reason to go get a grinder! Best of all the process is fairly simple and with a steady hand it really does make getting a good coping job. Many thanks!
I did something similar with a sanding drum or a little 7.2v dremel tool doing baseboards for the first time. I watched a few videos on coping but realized im a butcher with a coping saw so I used the dremel to clean up my mistakes. Its good to see a real craftsman doing the same thing. Makes me feel like less of a hack.
I scored about 18 pieces full length crown from a ladies trash in the front of my subdivision glad I watched this before I "boogered" up my DIY...great instruction ,Thank you from Fresno,TX.
I have to tell you that your videos have helped me SO much! We refinished our basement and are now on to the upstairs and seriously you have been my guide the whole way through. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. You do amazing work and your videos are beyond helpful!
Great video, I’ve used a combination of coping saw and jig saw for years. Only recently discovered the flap wheel for taking off loads of material quick but never thought to cope with it🤔thanks for the tip! A tip for for anyone else out there new to that 2 part mitre fix. Learned a couple years ago ya gotta back it up with wood glue as well or those joints will pop long term from expansion 😬
I was thinking to myself "Hey, that kinda looks like the houses in my in-laws' neighborhoods!" Then I clicked on the description and he's in DFW, they live in Frisco... Same old houses across the metroplex
Today I tried for the first time to install baseboard with the same technique, well it seems easy but requires skill and plenty of experience. You did a perfect job!
Thanks for your segments. I reviewed your segment on the trip to LA! That guy was just jealous. When I am having a bad day, I open youtube and watch the videos you share, as always a great pick me up. For the amount of time you have been working in this trade, you are something special. I am proud of you and will continue to follow. I am 65 and have been working around the construction trade for a long time. Your skill set is incredible. Keep on going on.
@@3thomasdm His crown is MDF, which has to be sanded to the line, coping with saw is for wood trim, or for complex curves and angles a grinder cannot do. If this is a job site, he is doing a good job while saving time. Time us money for carpenters!!
Until I came across these videos, I had no idea what coping was at all. I'm just finishing up a small bathroom remodel that has trim replacement on two walls with one inside corner. I'm using PS trim because of the moisture. I just did a practice cope with a Dremel and it came out great! Now on to the live piece. Thanks for the education!
I have been a carpenter for 48 yrs i dont need an angle grinder to do crown moulding just a coping saw but then again i dont use any mdf. Stain or paint it fits everytime not saying your method doesn't work i always like seeing different methods of how to get things done. My 1st boss told me to get started in carpentry told me with a hammer, hand saw, square you can build a house, i love that old timer. He's 90. Yrs old now.
Hey Richard - I see the B-I-N primer in the background, I can't remember if it was you or someone else who turned me on to that, but it is excellent for MDF. Have you found anything better to prime MDF or is it still your go-to?
Doing painting for insurance contractors the shellac base stops every stain i ever found, smoke, water, tannin ! In fact, all zinser products are great.
Bin primer is the best primer you can use hands down for anything not just trim or MDF like literally anything shit will stick to glass and allow u to paint any type of paint over it and it will stick for sure shits amazing it has its cons tho also like it's mighty thin being it's a alcohol based primer and it dries in like 5 mins which can be a good or bad thing but I love the stuff it's great. Unfortunately you won't find it anywhere now a days smfh first it wasn't around wen covid started cause I guess they needed all the alcohol for hand sanitizer or whatever but then it came back around n now gone again like a ton of paints n materials are cause there all sitting off shore in those shipping containers smdh
I’ve been struggling lately trying to cope....it’s good to know there’s a video that makes coping easier....if there’s one thing in this world people could use help on, it’s how to cope......
Trim carpenter here for over 35 years and learned from my Dad who was a trim carpenter for over 40 and hate coping saws. I have done a version of this and works great but takes longer on hardwood, but great job young man.
It's usually sprayed in place. With baseboards you can get away with spraying a couple coats before they go on the wall and doing prep and rolling the last coat but it looks horrible on crown if it's done that way. Has to be fully prepped on the wall and sprayed for it to look any good
I must add that although I've done some of this stuff before, your videos help me better understand the how's and why's. I'm now retired and in a brand new home which I intend to do crown molding and chair rail and picture frame work to.
This is awesome advice!! I'm trying it right now on a baseboard job (pine baseboard) in my house. The flap disk, three files (1/4" round, 1/2" round and flat) and I'm NAILING the coping. And it's fast - way faster (and more accurate) than a manual coping saw, which is what I would have used. When I use a manual coping saw, it always looks like a 4-year-old's drawing. Until you get used to it, be careful with the grinder when you get close to the line. It can remove material pretty quickly if it catches. Just take little bites. I never would have thought of this, so thank you for the great tip! Subscribed.
This is the way ive been coping for years! Many guys use a jigsaw and it turns out rough cut. The sanding disc is key and all ill use! You can use the saw to remove most material if pine or another wood besides mdf. Then come in with disc to touch up! Great job 😊
Dang dude, you make it look so easy. I’m going to be replacing all our baseboard soon and I know that my results will be nothing like yours. FYI I really appreciate your videos. Thank you.
Great video! I spent all afternoon today messing up my baseboards attempting to cope it w a coping saw. Almost finish and snap! Of course I searched for better ways. Gave up, wastee a ton of wood, sot down to watch youtube and here this video comes up. So.....maybe tomorrow I will get a flap disc. Thanks for the help what a great system!
@@robertsalas3984 No, that is wrong thinking, like my dad, he uses caulk. Getting a smooth cope requires a fine coping blade and some foam sand paper, so they are a tight fit, then glue the corners, caulking is for sealing along your molding, not filling in blemishes. When you paint the caulk, even if it is painters caulk, it will be darker than the trim, and or be obvious, always use wood filler or drywall compound for filling holes form nails/staples.
just cut close to the trim line and use a foam sander and sand off till excess is gone, and you have a clean line, check fit, glue your corners, and nail on. You can get same results he got here. Just be steady and don't rush it, you will be fine.
I keep watching your vids, another nice job! Think it's important to stress a dust mask and goggles for this practice as it will kick out a load of particulate and I can assure you it makes an impact, especially over the long haul.
Im going to give it a go aswell, but to me it looks a lot slower, A cope only take 10 or 15 seconds to cut but i'll do a few tests to see how long it flap disc takes
@@ellicopter1 I think it looks longer as he is going slow and talking us through the steps. I also believe it may take a whole 30sec longer but better results. That's my opinion because of what I see in his work and how meticulous and neat he is, and that's the type of work I do. No rushing or cutting corners, just put out nice visual guaranteed to last work. Quality over quantity always.
Aaron Elliott This method is much better and fast and more versital than coping saws. Like scribing long base, back bevels, reliefs and many more. Backing pads are better. Cut a bevel, cut the straight section with a chop saw and snap it off then grind the detail. It’s best to clamp the piece, choke up on the grinder and rest the other hand on the piece placing your thumb on the guard for the best control. Don’t stub much material past the clamp or the piece will vibrate and chatter.
@@Bigjmoney83 I use the angle grinder with a flap disc too. I find i get better results with the grinder. I just got the Festool ras and am going to try that, i was told it works better than the flap disc. I also use a file to clean up the corners.
I saw this and I practically yelled at my girl "hey there is someone else who copes like I do" lol. I've been at it for longer than you have, but your hands are much steadier than mine. I'm going to try to emulate your technique, as it may help with my unsteady hand. Very nice work, and ty for the vid. Have a great day fellow dead tree carcass manipulator.
Fantastic job with your detail and description on how to do this. I'm so glad I watched this, I have a huge trim project ahead of me with finishing my basement and I think I'll be using this method exclusively! Thanks!
Larry B I just figured this out the hard way. I suck at this shit. Anyone who says trim carpenters have an easy job have never had to install crown molding. Lol
@@wildphototaker I installed countless and it is easy job. I use jig saw. This guy is hack that neither can cope with jig saw neither can deal with compound cats.
I’ve used this method for a long time also orbital sander as well. I teach coping to anyone who is doing trim and moulding work. Great job on the video.
Amigo,your way to do this job is amazing,I use the coping saw all the time with the same results,just using the right size of coping saw and the job is done in no time. Excelent video,thank you very much for the ideas.
I'm definitely leaving a dislike. Watched the whole video twice, did everything exactly the same and it STILL doesn't help me cope with the divorce one bit.
Thanks so much. I am Joe home owner and I have only done this with old school with a coping saw which is very slow, at least for me. I am going to try this next. You do beautiful work and explain the process very well, again thanks.
I wish I seen this earlier, I purchased a crown moulding from Home Depot that was made of a hard plastic material,,,,man I had a heck of a time coping it ! I will remember this for the next time for sure ! TY Brother,,,very cool,,,, 😀👍
I did this for the first time today!!! My husband did the cuts, I did the coping. I put my hubby’s angle grinder (with the flap like you have) in a vice though because I’m not strong enough to hold that thing. It came out perfect! 112 linear feet DONE in an hour!!!! We are never looking back! Thank you so much for this post!
Did u guys use MDF or primed Pine wood
kevin kelly it was the cheap plastic stuff that melts when you cope it. Lol I let it sit in the wind of the flap disc and then could pop the scraps right off when they cooled down. Would have been easier with wood but we had a tight budget.
@@charlieann82 So, do u think it could be done with wood ? Or will it work the same with wood or Oak??
kevin kelly He is doing it on wood and I have seen other videos with it on wood. None on the plastic stuff we got. So I think it would be easier on wood. It was easy peasy!!
No, that's MDF wood there!
The best coping video on the tube. Thanks for stopping during the process to explain. You are a fantastic teacher as well. Thanks again
My father taught his 6 boys coping saw when we were just kids, for me that 60 yrs ago. IF he were alive today I'd freak him out using your technique. Best I can do now is show my bros. Thanks Bud, you are an artist.
I’ve been doing this almost 40 years. I’ve tried dremels for the back cut, but never considered or thought of using an angle grinder. So thanks for that. And congratulations. It is refreshing to see a young guy take pride in his work these days. A lot of jobs I go to finish, I look at how some of the trim or crown was done and just shake my head. You are going to be very successful. Word of mouth and reputation wil make you a sought after commodity. Great video
I think dremel is better cause you can control better for more precise cuts.
Or be skilled...after a couple coups you should get a good hang of it, if you are worth anything
@@gerardoquiroz4290 I grinned half of my thumb yesterday.
I built log homes and learned to cope with a 7 inch grinder and a 4 inch. You definitely better watch clothing and body parts.
I agree. Very rare these days.I had over 50 apprentices only 7 are still in the trade. Just enjoy seeing someone taking pride and doing it right. I stumbled across this video for a small project glad I did . Bought extra stock just to try to do it right to make it look good. Refrigeration Tech by trade but I don't shy away from a small project like I've got. If I needed all crown done I'd hire it out. Sometimes you gotta let the pros take over.
In addition to your fine carpentry skills, you're also a very good teacher. Thank you for patiently explaining the fine points of your craft. It really helps those of us who are still learning. Really enjoying your channel.
Ps your videos are uniformly excellent and I learn something every time I watch! Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience. I forgot to mention that, I should’ve said that first before I asked the question!
"But that's it. That's the little process..." haha, man you are humble. You are awesome at that, wish all contractors took the care and concern that you do to make it a quality end product! Very nice.
So cool dude. I'm an electrician but you know, I do things around the house too other than electrical work. This idea with the grinder is awesome. Now I have a reason to buy the M18 Fuel grinder! Thank you!!
I'm a carpenter, but not a finish guy. I come here to brush up on my finish skills and learn the right way to do things. This guys good at what he does and very informative. The blade he refers to in this video for coping was about $8 at Home Depot. Well worth the money for the time it saves knocking down the trim. Works well with solid wood. Thanks for the videos.
Do you know what brand? I've read reviews elsewhere that say that some discs are much better than others for this purpose.
merchantbankers i use dewalt and it works well
Nice job and excellent instructive video. 30 yrs ago whilst fitting out my home with colonial style, native timber architrave, skirting and scotia boards, I too got tired of coping and guess what......I also discovered using a grinder was a far more efficient way of creating that perfect corner. Well done.
Some of the most ingenious ideas come from something so simple! THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge!!💯🙏
And I always thought psychiatrists prescribed things to make coping easier. After watching this video things are clear now!
You're very skilled and professional. Incredible work!!!
Tj Gsomething lol nice joke!
Sooooo when I searched, "I'm having problems coping" I was thinking something different ; )
I come from a masonry background before getting into carpentry and woodworking. So a grinder is like an extension of a limb for me. This is going to change my life! Thanks man!
...you are the only other person besides myself i've seen use a grinder to cope crown in at least 10 years...by far the quickest and best way to go about it...
Im a finish carp and have been doing this for at least 5 yrs or more. Will never go back
I've been coping for years, using a jig saw and belt sander. You taught an old fart something new. This is my new method of coping. Utterly amazing.
B.J. Neyer you can also use a rotory tool for fine details
Does this method work just as well with solid wood trim and not just only mdf wood trim?
@@jonelortiz268 I'm down due to injury, but I can't see why not. You might have to use a finer grit and not push too hard so the wood doesn't burn.
B.J. Neyer sounds good, thanks for the help! Cheers
What about us young farts haha
Thank you for sharing. One day I will use your awesome advice. Though Drywall is the main stuff I do, painting is my secondary. I have to say painters must love working after you do a job. Caulking after your work looks like it would be easy.
Hey Bro, thanks for sharing. I've been a framing carpenter in L.A. since like 2001. For the last year,finish carpentry has been paying my bills and most of that knowledge has come from you. I appreciate what you do. Thank you
10x more rewarding though I bet
Stair rails
@@paul_jmr8022 stfu
Paul Jmr I’ve tried a coping saw. I have a hard time controlling the blade. I would probably have my wife do this. They don’t call me Shakey John for nothing. I’m a surveyor, just not a very good one.
@@paul_jmr8022 So you are against taking short cuts? Why? I bet you use an electric miter saw don't you? That is a short cut. My dad used to do his crown molding miters with a miter box and a hand miter saw....so to him using the new electric sliding miter saws is a short cut. Sort of like taking the jet airliner instead of the old piston engine driven aircraft. What about your TV, still watching B&W? Let those who come up with a better mousetrap rule the day and pass on their knowledge so that we can all do the job a little quicker and a little better.
I just used a flap disc coping my first crown job. Very easy and successful. I also want to add that I purchased a speedcope from Rockler woodworking and was not impressed. I also want to add that I used a Dremel to clean out any small areas in between the smaller details. I have 40 years experience as a concrete carpenter and I am really enjoying the trim work process and these videos definitely help out. Thanks!
I've had a Mikita angle (4") grinder for 40 yrs. Used for everything related to tile stone wood plastic metal. Never broke always working. When I started doing trim I progressed from sandpaper to adding files then it hit me, the grinder. My skill at fine work improved immediately. Man was I happy. Solid confidence, so comforting.I can imagine how many converts you have who can't wait to try it. The ca glue is a great one also.
Been at it 40 years and thought I knew how to cut crown better than most. You can teach an old dog, thanks.
That was a great video
Me too 40 years, but I have to ask. This is what you use if you can't find a coping saw right? The fact that's it's done free hand with a grinder has too add some control difficulty no matter what the experience. Though I have to admit this is one more tool of knowledge too add to ones repertoire. Still a good video.
@@jonwts48 I grind all the time it’s easy when u get it down ! I lay pavers always cutting pavers
@@jonwts48 well I've been at it 41!
@@garpikemike1 So you favor this over a coping saw? I'm just saying I did a whole lot of finish work, what I'm asking is 'if you have a grinder and a coping saw on the table you'd pick the grinder? I was just curious that's all I never seen no one do it like this so naturally I had questions. Like the precision of using a grinder on wood. But if I find myself without a coping saw I'd use grinder,so again good video.Lesson learnt.
very SLICK!
I'm glad you guys know how to do this shit, I'll stick to wires and emt, etc...
cheers!
You’re definitely a thinking man. No surprise that you’re continuing to go places.
This was a great tip - so much quicker. Thank you.
So much quicker than what?
@@marine9583 mayby a hand coping saw ? lol
@@Call0fGodZ Ok. Maybe so in that case. I use neither myself. I have an oscilating tool, and a miter saw. Does the same job, but faster. When I was a kid I had a coping saw for a fun tot. It now sits on my wall for nostalgia. Actually, no one uses them on my crew, or any that I know of really. Theres just better and faster ways now; have been for a while. Your thoughts?
I did my first crown moulding job yesterday using a cheap Harbor Freight angle grinder and a flap disc. Hard to believe how easy it was. It came out great, considering that this was my first time doing this. I would have never thought to do it this way without seeing this video a few months ago. Thanks!
I’m 29 & been doing carpentry 10 yrs. Tried this the other day & nailed it 👌🏼Appreciation from Aus
I love your style of workmanship dude! Your a great smooth talker that anyone with ears should always be able to comprehend
Great job, great tip - I've had that sandpaper flap thingy in my basement for a year now and never used it . . . now I will.
I've been using a dremel tool to do the same. Works great.
Frank Contreras what type of bit disc do you use on your dremel tool? Sanding drum...?
Adrian Wilson I started by using a oscillating Dremel. Cutting it horizontal to base boards. Then go back with a Dremel rotary to clean everything up. It turns out great.
I've used a cope and mitre saw to do the same thing 10x faster
We use the Dremel 543 1-1/4” cutting and shaping wheel. Works well on soft wood. On hardwood the grinder will remove stock much faster but the Dremel 543 will get in much tighter details. If you have a lot of hardwood to cope having both on hand will be the fastest.
Same here. I've been a carpenter since 1975, mostly framing , exterior trim and some interior trim for the first 15 years. Now I do remodeling, so do a lot of everything. When I do crown or base, I've always coped with a coping saw, until a few years ago I started using the jigsaw. That works great too, but u do have to fine tune with a sanding disc. Or sanding block. I'm working with a flat crown now, no curves. Very little forgiveness. It takes the disc to get it down. So it does work. Good video.
Never tried that quick glue. Gonna have to investigate it.
Thank you for such a great video. I've been doing this type of work for 45 years and I learned something new today, going to try the grinder. Your work is impeccable, you'll go far!
I been doing it this since your first video on it as well. And the sandpaper glued to a piece..that tip may even be better then the grinder lol. But bro..pull out your kreg table and clamp your work down so you have 2 hands for the grinder. So much more control and if you can rest your hand on something even better. But awesome job. And just trying to help bc the tips I got from you are priceless
Bill Zima agreed, glued sandpaper tip was pro. And definitely all about clamping, so much more control with two hands on.
Without two hands you will screw up many pieces
Bill Zima What is the glued sandpaper method? I must of missed that one....
Ron
Ron H probably glueing sand paper to the face of a piece to use as a profile sander.
@@ronh9384 its sandpaper glued to base,crown, shoe..whatever you are coping. He first back cut it with the grinder..then used the piece with the sandpaper glued to it ..to match the profile exactly. I found a roll of self adhesive sandpaper on Amazon. I believe its from Porter cable and it's like 4" x maybe 50' but it works great. I actually have a few pieces of my most used trim already made up and keep them in my trim with my guns,glue,nails ect and I'm telling you no matter how you went about coping b4 this is the cats meow. Its impossible to get a better fit with any other method. It's like running wood through a jointer..flawless!
Lately, I have been having issues coping. But I have sought help and am feeling much better now.
coping can be tough,its a rough world
Hi Richard, just wanted to say how I enjoy watching your videos. I’m a builder myself and I get a lot of value from your videos. I’ve been using an air belt sander for almost 10 years, which I find gives me great control and saves me a lot of time. Keep it up Richard!
I been using a makita gv 5000 since 2000 with a used 60 grit disc. It is faster and better than the coping saw. And, my paring is so thin and clean that even when the walls are askew, i can carefully compress the coped end to a perfect fit. Glad you posted this. Folks think im crazy having only 1 tool do a better job in half the time.👍🏼
Been doing this for years. Get a hard plastic backer disk at HD. Trim it down to 1/4 " smaller than the 4 1/2" sanding disks. You can get a knife edge cut in tight spaces. Works great on everything,hardwood to MDF.. Use different grits 36 to 100 depending on how aggressive you want to be. Good content and work! Keep it up!
Also works great to scribe cabinet fillers to an uneven or out of plumb wall.
I thought I was going to be in trouble, saw other videos that use a coping saw. I can do this with a dremel tool, it may take a bit longer but thanks for the idea!!!
You just gave me a great idea i was thinking i dont have a grinder maybe buy one but i do have a dremel and few discs i can use! this guy as always makes great video plus your idea im ready to go!
When i was first starting to do coping I ran my pencil lead flat along the cope line to give it more contrast.
Awesome technique Richard!! Very steady hands my friend!!
Did this today, got close and finished with regular sandpaper. Works like a charm.
An old boatbuilder showed me this about 12 yrs ago, He called it his "Round Plane". With a bit of practice, there really isn't any shape you can't take on!
It's amazing how quickly the grinder becomes your go-to tool once you've mastered it!
Amazed at how perfectly it matches in with the other piece that’s already fitted.
Geometry amazing ain’t it
Thanks very much for this episode. I just finished remodeling my condo and used your angle grinder technique on all my baseboard moulding. Worked great, very clean and professional results and a real time saver as well. :-)
Here is another pro-tip for those just starting to do this method. If you're having difficulty with going over your line, use a finer grit flap disk. It remove less material and will be more accurate. Once you get good, get progressively more aggressive disks to speed up production
And you can use the finer grits to sharpen your mower blades once you progress, I use 80 grit on my blades and some folks use 60.
Been remodeling my condo and was getting ready to do a whole lot of baseboard and some bannister wall tops. Found this video and it gave me a good reason to go get a grinder! Best of all the process is fairly simple and with a steady hand it really does make getting a good coping job. Many thanks!
I did something similar with a sanding drum or a little 7.2v dremel tool doing baseboards for the first time. I watched a few videos on coping but realized im a butcher with a coping saw so I used the dremel to clean up my mistakes. Its good to see a real craftsman doing the same thing. Makes me feel like less of a hack.
your work is quality, keep up the good work... i always think to record my work but not good with cameras and stuff...
You do great trim work bro! Thanks for the tip
"I feel like I've done this before... Oh yeah, over there." 😂😂😂
I scored about 18 pieces full length crown from a ladies trash in the front of my subdivision glad I watched this before I "boogered" up my DIY...great instruction ,Thank you from Fresno,TX.
I could practice this for 10 years and never have it come out that good. You're a master!
I have to tell you that your videos have helped me SO much! We refinished our basement and are now on to the upstairs and seriously you have been my guide the whole way through. Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. You do amazing work and your videos are beyond helpful!
Great video,
I’ve used a combination of coping saw and jig saw for years. Only recently discovered the flap wheel for taking off loads of material quick but never thought to cope with it🤔thanks for the tip!
A tip for for anyone else out there new to that 2 part mitre fix. Learned a couple years ago ya gotta back it up with wood glue as well or those joints will pop long term from expansion 😬
I was thinking to myself "Hey, that kinda looks like the houses in my in-laws' neighborhoods!" Then I clicked on the description and he's in DFW, they live in Frisco... Same old houses across the metroplex
Today I tried for the first time to install baseboard with the same technique, well it seems easy but requires skill and plenty of experience. You did a perfect job!
Thanks for your segments. I reviewed your segment on the trip to LA! That guy was just jealous. When I am having a bad day, I open youtube and watch the videos you share, as always a great pick me up. For the amount of time you have been working in this trade, you are something special. I am proud of you and will continue to follow. I am 65 and have been working around the construction trade for a long time. Your skill set is incredible. Keep on going on.
Good stuff man im learning a lot i really appreciate you making this tyoe of videos 👌🏾
I have enjoyed all your videos,you make everything interesting,keep up the good work.
Im just trying to figure out what type of people dislike videos like this.
Probably people who do not think it is good idea to use an angle grinder. Or just the usual green eyed monsters.
because the best way to cope is to actually learn how to cope and this is not it.
Tom D why tho? The joint looked better than most. Just because “that ain’t the way granddaddy used ta do it!”?
Wives.
@@3thomasdm His crown is MDF, which has to be sanded to the line, coping with saw is for wood trim, or for complex curves and angles a grinder cannot do. If this is a job site, he is doing a good job while saving time. Time us money for carpenters!!
Until I came across these videos, I had no idea what coping was at all. I'm just finishing up a small bathroom remodel that has trim replacement on two walls with one inside corner. I'm using PS trim because of the moisture. I just did a practice cope with a Dremel and it came out great! Now on to the live piece. Thanks for the education!
I have been a carpenter for 48 yrs i dont need an angle grinder to do crown moulding just a coping saw but then again i dont use any mdf. Stain or paint it fits everytime not saying your method doesn't work i always like seeing different methods of how to get things done. My 1st boss told me to get started in carpentry told me with a hammer, hand saw, square you can build a house, i love that old timer. He's 90. Yrs old now.
Damm I'm definitely trying that on tomorrow's job thanks!!
Did you really did it?
How did it go?
Hey Richard - I see the B-I-N primer in the background, I can't remember if it was you or someone else who turned me on to that, but it is excellent for MDF. Have you found anything better to prime MDF or is it still your go-to?
Doing painting for insurance contractors the shellac base stops every stain i ever found, smoke, water, tannin ! In fact, all zinser products are great.
I have its XIM
Best is the Zinnser Coverstain!
Bin primer is the best primer you can use hands down for anything not just trim or MDF like literally anything shit will stick to glass and allow u to paint any type of paint over it and it will stick for sure shits amazing it has its cons tho also like it's mighty thin being it's a alcohol based primer and it dries in like 5 mins which can be a good or bad thing but I love the stuff it's great. Unfortunately you won't find it anywhere now a days smfh first it wasn't around wen covid started cause I guess they needed all the alcohol for hand sanitizer or whatever but then it came back around n now gone again like a ton of paints n materials are cause there all sitting off shore in those shipping containers smdh
They also have what, old time Carpenters call ,a coping saw, I would of had 3 copes done, by the time you f,d around with the grinder
Once again I watch and learn, many thanks for all the tips, respect from Ireland...
I’ve been struggling lately trying to cope....it’s good to know there’s a video that makes coping easier....if there’s one thing in this world people could use help on, it’s how to cope......
Just replaced builder-grade baseboard and used a Dremel with sanding wheel, worked beautifully!
Trim carpenter here for over 35 years and learned from my Dad who was a trim carpenter for over 40 and hate coping saws. I have done a version of this and works great but takes longer on hardwood, but great job young man.
I'm curious to know how you fill and finish nail holes.
Wood putty and touch ups smh can even use caulk
Spackle , bondo for paint grade and I like famowood for stain grade. Everyone does it differently.
All the same finish if you read the directions and know your shit
Could you make a video of how you paing the crown molding or baseboard molding. After you installed it?
Thank you
Greats videos
It's usually sprayed in place. With baseboards you can get away with spraying a couple coats before they go on the wall and doing prep and rolling the last coat but it looks horrible on crown if it's done that way. Has to be fully prepped on the wall and sprayed for it to look any good
I must add that although I've done some of this stuff before, your videos help me better understand the how's and why's. I'm now retired and in a brand new home which I intend to do crown molding and chair rail and picture frame work to.
This is awesome advice!! I'm trying it right now on a baseboard job (pine baseboard) in my house. The flap disk, three files (1/4" round, 1/2" round and flat) and I'm NAILING the coping. And it's fast - way faster (and more accurate) than a manual coping saw, which is what I would have used. When I use a manual coping saw, it always looks like a 4-year-old's drawing. Until you get used to it, be careful with the grinder when you get close to the line. It can remove material pretty quickly if it catches. Just take little bites.
I never would have thought of this, so thank you for the great tip! Subscribed.
Guess the downvotes are from those hardcore anti angle-grinder coping-saw-or-die purists? Anyway, good stuff man, thank you!
You have saved me hundreds of hours over the next how ever many years. Thank you
It's incredible how calm, and collected you are dude.
He's really good at coping so it makes sense.
That’s a sweet method bro!
Did it for 20 years on and off. Just started doing it with the flap sander on the angle grinder… total life changer!!
This is the way ive been coping for years! Many guys use a jigsaw and it turns out rough cut. The sanding disc is key and all ill use! You can use the saw to remove most material if pine or another wood besides mdf. Then come in with disc to touch up! Great job 😊
Dang dude, you make it look so easy. I’m going to be replacing all our baseboard soon and I know that my results will be nothing like yours.
FYI I really appreciate your videos. Thank you.
That was beautiful, Mate. Just beautiful.
my wife says that I can't cope. I don't get it, I'm not even a carpenter???
Ha what a knee slapper
Well you should be a carpenter by now, hut two three!!
I cannot cope with this comment
lol
Copacetic!
Great video! I spent all afternoon today messing up my baseboards attempting to cope it w a coping saw. Almost finish and snap! Of course I searched for better ways. Gave up, wastee a ton of wood, sot down to watch youtube and here this video comes up. So.....maybe tomorrow I will get a flap disc. Thanks for the help what a great system!
Anyone who is afraid of doing coping cuts should instantly be able to do them with ease with this method. Thanks for the info!
Whenever I do trim work it looks like I tried coping with my teeth.
Yup caulking fixes all
@@robertsalas3984 No, that is wrong thinking, like my dad, he uses caulk. Getting a smooth cope requires a fine coping blade and some foam sand paper, so they are a tight fit, then glue the corners, caulking is for sealing along your molding, not filling in blemishes. When you paint the caulk, even if it is painters caulk, it will be darker than the trim, and or be obvious, always use wood filler or drywall compound for filling holes form nails/staples.
just cut close to the trim line and use a foam sander and sand off till excess is gone, and you have a clean line, check fit, glue your corners, and nail on. You can get same results he got here. Just be steady and don't rush it, you will be fine.
I keep watching your vids, another nice job! Think it's important to stress a dust mask and goggles for this practice as it will kick out a load of particulate and I can assure you it makes an impact, especially over the long haul.
@@robertsalas3984 Yes it does, but doing it perfectly is better.
This channel is great!!! So much to show my ignorant thick headed boss.
Says a lot about you. Start your own business Mr.Know It All!
@@FeatFan1000 work smarter....not harder.....know it all.
I will be trying this on some scrap. looks like it would be faster and cleaner than a coping saw.
Im going to give it a go aswell, but to me it looks a lot slower, A cope only take 10 or 15 seconds to cut but i'll do a few tests to see how long it flap disc takes
@@ellicopter1 I think it looks longer as he is going slow and talking us through the steps. I also believe it may take a whole 30sec longer but better results. That's my opinion because of what I see in his work and how meticulous and neat he is, and that's the type of work I do. No rushing or cutting corners, just put out nice visual guaranteed to last work. Quality over quantity always.
You will never use a coping saw again
Aaron Elliott
This method is much better and fast and more versital than coping saws. Like scribing long base, back bevels, reliefs and many more. Backing pads are better. Cut a bevel, cut the straight section with a chop saw and snap it off then grind the detail. It’s best to clamp the piece, choke up on the grinder and rest the other hand on the piece placing your thumb on the guard for the best control. Don’t stub much material past the clamp or the piece will vibrate and chatter.
@@Bigjmoney83 I use the angle grinder with a flap disc too. I find i get better results with the grinder. I just got the Festool ras and am going to try that, i was told it works better than the flap disc. I also use a file to clean up the corners.
I saw this and I practically yelled at my girl "hey there is someone else who copes like I do" lol. I've been at it for longer than you have, but your hands are much steadier than mine. I'm going to try to emulate your technique, as it may help with my unsteady hand. Very nice work, and ty for the vid. Have a great day fellow dead tree carcass manipulator.
Fantastic job with your detail and description on how to do this. I'm so glad I watched this, I have a huge trim project ahead of me with finishing my basement and I think I'll be using this method exclusively! Thanks!
Great job man!never thought about that lol..go get some BBQ 😉
"Satisfying vids" meets "workers at another level"
An angle grinder works great for MDF, but interestingly, I found that using an angle grinder for WOOD molding is much more difficult.
Larry B I just figured this out the hard way. I suck at this shit. Anyone who says trim carpenters have an easy job have never had to install crown molding. Lol
@@wildphototaker I installed countless and it is easy job. I use jig saw. This guy is hack that neither can cope with jig saw neither can deal with compound cats.
I’ve used this method for a long time also orbital sander as well.
I teach coping to anyone who is doing trim and moulding work.
Great job on the video.
Amigo,your way to do this job is amazing,I use the coping saw all the time with the same results,just using the right size of coping saw and the job is done in no time. Excelent video,thank you very much for the ideas.
Wish I had known about this 30 years ago.
I wish I had RUclips 30 yrs ago. 😕
How the he’ll is this going to help me cope? I got bills, a floozy wife and kids in the basement “Safe space”. 😾
😂
I'm definitely leaving a dislike. Watched the whole video twice, did everything exactly the same and it STILL doesn't help me cope with the divorce one bit.
😂😂😂
I’m dead hahahahah thanks for the laugh
😂😢😮🎉
😂😂😂😂 this is definitely an underrated comment
I could have couped it out already obviously you don't know how to back cut a hour later
Thanks so much. I am Joe home owner and I have only done this with old school with a coping saw which is very slow, at least for me. I am going to try this next. You do beautiful work and explain the process very well, again thanks.
I wish I seen this earlier, I purchased a crown moulding from Home Depot that was made of a hard plastic material,,,,man I had a heck of a time coping it ! I will remember this for the next time for sure ! TY Brother,,,very cool,,,, 😀👍
I saw Thisiscarpentry do it with a jigsaw, and I tried it and it did work, but THIS is WAY better.
Hey Richard, congratulations on getting your video published in “Fine Homebuilding” keep up the great stuff, I enjoy them all.
I'll have to try that, been using the table saw for years. I'll try it when the saw isn't out.
Im so glad I found this video. I installed base boards for my apartment for first time in my life and they turned out almost perfect! Great video!
The simple crown molding in my bathroom looks perfect because of your vids....thanks again!