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  • In Game 4 of the 2007 Western Conference semifinals, Robert Horry hip-checked Steve Nash in what has become one of the most famous fouls in NBA history. Former Phoenix Suns legend Steve Nash joined HBO and The Ringer’s Bill Simmons to discuss that game, its ramifications, Mike D'Antoni, and what the Suns meant to the league at that time.
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  • @kawhileonard9691
    @kawhileonard9691 4 года назад +1426

    Dude would thrive in today’s nba was just a little to early

    • @JoshuaFrick3
      @JoshuaFrick3 4 года назад +211

      Very true. Yet, in all things, someone has to be the pioneer. Someone has to take the first step. There's a reason Steph Curry said his favorite player to watch growing up was Steve Nash.

    • @kawhileonard9691
      @kawhileonard9691 4 года назад +7

      Joshua Frick True

    • @jordanrodriguez6412
      @jordanrodriguez6412 4 года назад +15

      Any oldschool player would the nba is wack now. No defense. Of course they would thrive df

    • @reefmulkey982
      @reefmulkey982 4 года назад +79

      He was two time mvp he wasn’t too early

    • @mattmiller4821
      @mattmiller4821 4 года назад +33

      i get what you're sayin', but dude did thrive. If Horry hadn't pulled that stunt, the Suns would have certainly won the championship that year. In my book Nash > Curry any day of the week.....

  • @jsobers
    @jsobers 4 года назад +1054

    Since 2000 I don’t think there is a pg that has gotten more people paid than Nash. A lot of players owe him a few steak dinners for what he did to their career.

    • @deflandre8286
      @deflandre8286 4 года назад +14

      True!

    • @thetuesday
      @thetuesday 4 года назад +48

      Marcin Gortat comes to mind.

    • @wirelessbrain12
      @wirelessbrain12 4 года назад +31

      @@thetuesday Gortat got paid because he was good at Magics as Dwights back up. But definitely overpaid

    • @igethighhighhigh
      @igethighhighhigh 4 года назад +2

      The facts 💯💯

    • @idkman09
      @idkman09 4 года назад +30

      Channing Frye would 100% never stayed in the league if it weren’t for Nash

  • @alpanuncillo6223
    @alpanuncillo6223 4 года назад +1142

    Nash is underrated af.

    • @_internetnoah
      @_internetnoah 4 года назад +31

      Al Panuncillo true but the man did win not one, but TWO MVP’s.

    • @alpanuncillo6223
      @alpanuncillo6223 4 года назад +20

      @@_internetnoah yeah. But he still does not get enough credit for it.

    • @jordanrodriguez6412
      @jordanrodriguez6412 4 года назад +4

      Hes a two time world champion he lead the suns to the best record in the west. Df you talking about

    • @bradyc1793
      @bradyc1793 4 года назад +44

      People spent a decade slandering him because a white boy won an MVP over Kobe, sad people

    • @jordanrodriguez6412
      @jordanrodriguez6412 4 года назад +6

      @@bradyc1793 kobe 1000000000000 times better then nash the. Dont get it twisted. Nash still a beast

  • @atk8959
    @atk8959 4 года назад +295

    Regrets the things under his control. Not what “happened to him”... bad calls etc. Impressive perspective. .

  • @jasonl7937
    @jasonl7937 4 года назад +630

    That Horry hip check killed the series. As Simmons wrote in his book "even a washed up Horry could swing a series" lol.

    • @tropicarls
      @tropicarls 4 года назад +35

      Back then teams used to have hitmen on the bench, no?

    • @kingdave31
      @kingdave31 4 года назад +65

      The hip check happened because the refs let the Spurs get away with murder all game. If the refs had reined the overly physical stuff in earlier, then Horry wouldn’t have felt free to do the hip check. Basically the league’s power structure wanted to punish the Suns for playing the game differently than everyone else, so the refs had David Stern and Stu Jackson’s implicit approval to allow the Spurs to beat the crap out of them, then slap overly-harsh punishments on any Sun who reacted.

    • @toddjonesfilm
      @toddjonesfilm 4 года назад +7

      David Landon imagine being this soft

    • @idkman09
      @idkman09 4 года назад +4

      David Landon that’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever fucking read. The league was against the Suns cuz they played differently?? Moron

    • @tedlogan5628
      @tedlogan5628 4 года назад +35

      Suns players getting suspended for barely stepping on the court and nowadays, LeBron is celebrating on the court in the midst of the play happening all around him..😄. Funny how times have changed!

  • @paulippolito4251
    @paulippolito4251 4 года назад +438

    For people who don't think Nash could've been an elite scorer, in the 2005 playoffs against Dallas it was the Mavs game plan to make Nash a scorer and not a playmaker, and he averaged 30ppg and 12apg on 55%fg, 42% 3pfg. The last 4 games of that series he averaged 37 and 12 on 60% fg and 50% from 3. In today's NBA he would've been told to take 8-10 threes a game and score much more. Would've been interesting to see

    • @laconfidential8504
      @laconfidential8504 4 года назад +55

      What’s insane is that they basically were saying let him get his and not beat us with his passing, yet he was still able to get 12 assists a game in that series in addition to scoring 30.

    • @joestuehmer7967
      @joestuehmer7967 4 года назад +5

      Nash's highest scoring season was under 19 ppg he wasn't a scorer.. Trae Young is gonna be what Nash could've been if he didn't play so passive all the time

    • @daddytrav
      @daddytrav 4 года назад +36

      @@joestuehmer7967 Trae is horribly inefficient and half the passer.

    • @joestuehmer7967
      @joestuehmer7967 4 года назад +4

      @@daddytrav lol ok... Look up Nash's stats for his second season he was a garbage can in comparison to Trae

    • @daddytrav
      @daddytrav 4 года назад +10

      @@joestuehmer7967 In a way apples and oranges. Nash was playing behind Jason Kidd. With that said very efficient. Steve nash is Billy hoyle. Trae is Sydney deane

  • @bautistakeithcharles3302
    @bautistakeithcharles3302 4 года назад +186

    What’s cool is he did not say a thing about any excuses about any all of this

    • @tylersharks
      @tylersharks 4 года назад +2

      THE REAL DEAL

    • @gardenballer6619
      @gardenballer6619 3 года назад +1

      I thinks that’s because he doesn’t have any legit ones.

  • @xOneCinema
    @xOneCinema 4 года назад +334

    Despite his 2 MVPs, Nash is still under appreciated.

    • @kennethgriffin7921
      @kennethgriffin7921 4 года назад +6

      thats because the 2005 mvp was shaq and the 2006 mvp was kobe. those guys were leaps and bounds better individual players. the suns were stacked and d'antoni's system is why nash got all the assists. he was nothing close to that type of player on dallas under a regular set offense.

    • @gospaironija2762
      @gospaironija2762 4 года назад +9

      @@kennethgriffin7921 Nash was streight fire he was better then Curry if he would shoot the ball more he would be as good as him shooting nevermind the ability to playmake and his incredible asists.

    • @kennethgriffin7921
      @kennethgriffin7921 4 года назад +1

      @@gospaironija2762 lol no

    • @fukun5773
      @fukun5773 4 года назад

      He's overrated in terms of MVPs. Kobe was more deserving than Nash. But in terms of being in topic or stayibg relevant in discussions, yes, nash is underrated

    • @FARecordsJF
      @FARecordsJF 4 года назад +20

      @@kennethgriffin7921 I can tell you didn't watch those seasons. The Suns revolutionzed the NBA with their offense. It wasn't about stats. It was the impact Nash made on the team. He orchestrated everything. He deserved the MVP both years.

  • @humberboy23
    @humberboy23 4 года назад +187

    imagine prime Nash with today's Houston Rockets. would be scary.

    • @MrPangahas
      @MrPangahas 4 года назад +35

      Capella would be an allstar, easy buckets for him.

    • @roboninja3194
      @roboninja3194 4 года назад +2

      They would still lose in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Seriously how many times do people have to see this system fail before they realize it doesn't work? Suns never won anything. Same with the Rockets. It's like people are enamored with the fast pace score a lot of points stuff while they ignore the fact the team doing this repeatedly loses in the playoffs and never even makes it to at least the Finals.

    • @derrickdavis5836
      @derrickdavis5836 4 года назад +8

      He wouldnt choke like my boy harden. I would appreciate prime nash on the rockets over harden anyday. Nash balled out in the playoffs every time.

    • @snap8626
      @snap8626 4 года назад

      we always debated the imagine if " he was on the 90's knicks" instead of starks.

    • @justinpawlowski577
      @justinpawlowski577 4 года назад

      Harden and his asthma couldn't keep up.

  • @CareFreeCommuting
    @CareFreeCommuting 4 года назад +90

    I’m so glad Nash is saying this, like, it’s all I was thinking about with him in the Suns...he just didn’t look for his shot enough. I think he would’ve been much higher on the all-time list if he would’ve done that...& I believe you can hear that regret in his voice. But, hindsight is 20/20 he was still my favorite player to watch in the league during his prime...but with his gifts at that time period, I think he could’ve reached top ten all-time if he shot more early as he was by far the best player on that team...not even a close second.

    • @angahbg9089
      @angahbg9089 4 года назад +2

      I wish Nikola Jokic see this interview and realise he needs to shoot more

    • @dennisjr77
      @dennisjr77 4 года назад +1

      He’s top 10 all time in assists.... I think he’s sitting somewhere around 20,000 pts though.... not bad numbers at all

  • @thedominator88
    @thedominator88 4 года назад +44

    I kinda felt his pain while talking about that game. What a great player he was. He should have won a 'ship.

    • @sed1589
      @sed1589 3 года назад +1

      Idk them vs the cavs could've been interesting

  • @TUBESTEAKNIG
    @TUBESTEAKNIG 4 года назад +48

    It's absolutely insane to think of memories watching those Suns teams. They were pushing the pace hard and the style was revolutionary, but then you compare it to the modern day and it's the slowest pace in the league with the least 3's. Absolutely insane.

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 4 года назад

      Revolutionary? Not winning a thing is revolutionary? Ok

    • @pfanzers
      @pfanzers 4 года назад +1

      As a spurs fan I loved this suns team. Better rivalry than spurs / lakers.

    • @TUBESTEAKNIG
      @TUBESTEAKNIG 4 года назад +8

      @@TL2354 Yeah it is dumbass. Look at the game today vs back then.

    • @seanhurley4003
      @seanhurley4003 Год назад +1

      But more fun to watch the Nash Suns than most of today's teams

  • @peacegawd5192
    @peacegawd5192 4 года назад +39

    Him and Amar'e were a force back in the day

    • @iwillrateyou9375
      @iwillrateyou9375 4 года назад +2

      It was only ten years ago

    • @jaccbolton
      @jaccbolton 4 года назад +5

      One of the best duos in history

    • @TheBorderJumper17
      @TheBorderJumper17 4 года назад

      1/10th of a century

    • @elhajjmalikel6266
      @elhajjmalikel6266 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah. Very underrated duo. Stat and Nash's Suns would absolutely KILL in today's league.

  • @rodaxel7165
    @rodaxel7165 4 года назад +138

    I see him coach an nba team someday. Legend

    • @CareFreeCommuting
      @CareFreeCommuting 4 года назад +1

      rod axel he did assistant right?

    • @nicholaslee8311
      @nicholaslee8311 4 года назад +7

      He was an assistant coach or consultant or something for the Warriors in 2017 I think

    • @userjim83
      @userjim83 4 года назад +9

      Guys with $100m+ dollars who have dedicated 30 years of their life’s to the game and all the travel and pressure aren’t going to be coaches generally

    • @sijigs
      @sijigs 4 года назад +1

      He probably could but i doubt it. Hed prefer to train players

    • @dennisjr77
      @dennisjr77 4 года назад

      He’s already a special assistant for GSW.

  • @davidusa47
    @davidusa47 4 года назад +133

    As a Suns fan, I was so frustrated when Nash would pass up everything besides a wide open shot. But guess what? That’s why he was a legendary playmaker and shot 50/40/90. Who knows if he had taken more contested shots.

    • @derrickdavis5836
      @derrickdavis5836 4 года назад +3

      He would be up there with ray and curry

    • @N8veJay
      @N8veJay 4 года назад

      He averages 23 points and about 8 assists in today’s game... 17/10 type player turns into a 23/8 player

    • @dennisjr77
      @dennisjr77 4 года назад +2

      He was a true pass first PG... much in the vein of Stockton! Don’t forget, he would turn it up if he had to... had over 30 pts MANY TIMES in his career!

    • @jaccbolton
      @jaccbolton 4 года назад +1

      @@derrickdavis5836 would be?? Before curry there was Nash. Curry had to get to Nash's level

    • @derrickdavis5836
      @derrickdavis5836 4 года назад

      @@jaccbolton nah

  • @ShareefusMaximus
    @ShareefusMaximus 4 года назад +104

    Steve Nash is the player that really "changed the game." Everyone else took the league he made to the next level. Congratulations to them, but don't erase what Steve and those Suns did.

    • @ImBarryScottCSS
      @ImBarryScottCSS 4 года назад +5

      I'm sorry but this is horseshit. Steve's suns did not change the game, they did not change the way other teams and players set up, they didn't change the shots people were taking, they didn't change the type of players who got paid, they didn't change anything.
      The warriors strategy was so dominant that it literally changed how basketball in the NBA is played, it was so effective that even the skeptics couldn't deny it. They have changed the whole paradigm in such a fundamental way that to suggest the suns did anything even remotely close is offensive.

    • @ShareefusMaximus
      @ShareefusMaximus 4 года назад +28

      @@ImBarryScottCSS LOL, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. You have conveniently glossed over the fact the Steve Kerr became the Suns GM while Steve Nash was already the dominant player in Pheonix, Alvin Gentry was a D'Antoni assistant, a head coach to Steve, and literally installed the SAME offense they had in Pheonix, as the offensive coordinator in Golden State. So much so that Alvin Gentry's post-championship comment to the media was, "Tell Mike D'Antoni he's been vindicated." Mike D'Antoni DID NOT run that offense when he was the head coach in Denver. Steve was the only established player on that Suns team (many went on to become "established players") so Mike geared the offense around him. Nash NEVER played with Golden State yet he is a consultant for their team and has been. The Warriors went from 7th place to the best team ever, by simply changing their player's deployment to what Kerr observed in PHEONIX. Karl Malone said he never ran the pick and roll in the "high" position (near the top of the key) the side PNR was standard in the NBA until the Steve Nash Suns. With all due respect to one of history's great teams, they have never done anything offensively that the Spurs, Suns or Bulls didn't do... NOTHING. "21/pistol" "high pick and roll" "pace and space" "slot action" and running to the corners were all Suns innovations and they are ALL standard play now. Now those are FACTS. If you have something other than just insistence and narrative please enlighten me. I'm always open to learning more about basketball.

    • @Primathys
      @Primathys 4 года назад

      Him and D'Antoni did, absolutely.

    • @africaRBG
      @africaRBG 4 года назад +11

      @@ShareefusMaximus you sure were ready for an opposing response lol

    • @TL2354
      @TL2354 4 года назад

      What did they do besides come up short every year? Teams that win change the game, why would anyone wanna copy something that didn’t win?

  • @jonpoon3896
    @jonpoon3896 4 года назад +21

    In his Suns era, people only evaluated as high vs low percentage shots. By the time the Spurs and Warriors motion offence came, people realized the value of pulling the defense away from the middle

  • @ShareefusMaximus
    @ShareefusMaximus 4 года назад +67

    Make no mistake, the Suns CRUSHED Cleveland twice that same year. San Antonio went on to sweep them but Phoenix would have as well. David Stern decided the championship when he suspended the Suns' leading scorer and his main back up at the same time.

    • @guanoguy4800
      @guanoguy4800 4 года назад +10

      Stern sucked on that call. No judgement.

    • @NlneLives210
      @NlneLives210 4 года назад

      Nah suns where up 20 points in game 5

    • @guanoguy4800
      @guanoguy4800 4 года назад +20

      @@NlneLives210 Yeah, they were up 20 while playing 6 guys and ran out of gas in the second half. So yes, Stern decided the series by taking 2 of their main guys away. Look at more than a few stats.

    • @spunkhead
      @spunkhead 4 года назад +1

      where is stern now?

    • @joroll26
      @joroll26 4 года назад

      1980s dude David Stern. The commissioner that made what the NBA is now today.

  • @DaVi-dt5ix
    @DaVi-dt5ix 4 года назад +46

    Tim duncan also stepped on court but nothing happened to him. Steve nash, go coach ricky rubio out in phx

  • @holypaper
    @holypaper 4 года назад +28

    I see Nash. I click. It's as simple as that.

  • @codyfrancis12
    @codyfrancis12 4 года назад +2

    Robert so clutch

  • @sirwalksoftly
    @sirwalksoftly 4 года назад +6

    Steve Nash would be on what Stephen Curry’s level is today. I used Nash in NBA2k7 playing in that “find the three” style, killin em. I hope to see Steve Nash coaching one day in the NBA with a PG of similar caliber to him.

  • @goodfella2400
    @goodfella2400 4 года назад +11

    I can’t think of David Stern without thinking about how he allowed this series to get fixed by a rule technicality. The suspensions, which in turn gave the Spurs the ‘07 title, are part of Stern’s legacy.

    • @GreatValueBleach
      @GreatValueBleach 4 года назад +1

      Goodfella stern is a Jew.

    • @raymondcortinas6259
      @raymondcortinas6259 2 года назад

      “Gave” the spurs the 07 title? No. Spurs still had to play the cavs , so they didn’t just “give” them the title. Both Simmons and Nash sound a little butthurt btw.

    • @goodfella2400
      @goodfella2400 2 года назад

      @@raymondcortinas6259 the Spurs went 10-1 after that game. Yes Stern and the league office gave them the title with those bogus suspensions. Let’s keep it real - Whoever won that series was going to win it all that year.

    • @raymondcortinas6259
      @raymondcortinas6259 2 года назад

      Think about what you are saying and what im saying. Im telling you facts and you are speculating. Spurs still had to play the Cavs and anything could have happened during that series maybe Duncan would have got hurt, maybe Parker or Ginobilli would have gotten hurt. Maybe the cavs would have gotten hot, but we know that didn’t happen. Another set of facts for you. From 2003-2008 the Spurs eliminated the suns from the playoffs all of which nash was on the suns so maybe just maybe the suns were just not built to handle the Spurs. You on the other hand is speculating and accusing stern of “giving” the Spurs the titl, speculating that the suns would have beat the cavs. Anything could have happened but didn’t. Everything THAT I pointed out actually did. Keep dreaming thats what imagination is about.

  • @gorkajames6475
    @gorkajames6475 4 года назад +80

    John Stockton was also a conservative shooter even though, numbers wise, he’s like a top 5 all time shooter.

    • @Avodah_27
      @Avodah_27 4 года назад

      Talk that Jazz sh!t 🗣🗣🗣

    • @CBarber22
      @CBarber22 4 года назад +12

      He's actually 86th all time in 3 point percentage, 21st all time in eFG%

    • @gorkajames6475
      @gorkajames6475 4 года назад +12

      noremaC Yeah no shit but among players that have at least a 35% career 3 point percentage and averaged at least one 3 pointer per game for their career, he is 6th all time in true shooting percentage, which is the best statistic for shooting once you add in the two other factors I mentioned.

    • @CBarber22
      @CBarber22 4 года назад +5

      @@gorkajames6475 TS% favors catch and shooters, doesn't account for degree of difficulty. Definitely a good measure for comparing similar players from the same era but ridiculous to compare every player all time by it

    • @gorkajames6475
      @gorkajames6475 4 года назад +2

      noremaC Also TS% obviously doesn’t compare players across the entire history of NBA/ABA since 3P line, which is one of the factors the statistic considers, didn’t always exist

  • @OwolabbyAzeez
    @OwolabbyAzeez 4 года назад +24

    Did you know it’s impossible to breath while smiling??
    Kidding just wanted y’all to smile. If you’re reading this bruv (or bruvette), understand that you are amazing bro, have a blessed day and don’t let nobody ruin your day bro. Get ya bread and all the crumbs too.

  • @dannyh5937
    @dannyh5937 4 года назад +2

    This man never gets talked about anymore. He could control a game with 10 points and 10 assists. The only people that understand my comment are those that saw Nash play.

    • @krisharkleroad8
      @krisharkleroad8 4 года назад

      My favorite player to watch. He was so good with his off hand. Most ambidextrous player I have seen, passing, dribbling, shooting. Absolutely the best passer I have ever seen. Four time member of the 50-40-90 club and missed a fifth time by just one made free throw. Could score when needed (48 against Dallas in ayoffs). He was the best shooter over a decade from more places the floor than anybody, Ray Allen number two. Just an exceptional player.

  • @Aaron_Kuroiwa
    @Aaron_Kuroiwa 4 года назад +14

    This was the best podcast in the series so far. Well done.

  • @JayG_Tha_Don
    @JayG_Tha_Don 4 года назад +7

    Nash is top 10 pg of all time. He’s top 5 in my fav pg. His IQ and vision was masterful.

  • @AlpoMartinez88
    @AlpoMartinez88 4 года назад +43

    I wish Nash got him that ring he deserve it

  • @itswednesdaymydudes8631
    @itswednesdaymydudes8631 4 года назад +2

    What a all around good guy

  • @denniszenanywhere
    @denniszenanywhere 4 года назад +2

    Steve Nash should be a regular guest on sports talk shows. He was indeed very conversative with his shots. He was making tham and then suddenly would just keep on passing when he could have taken over.

  • @joeyh31
    @joeyh31 4 года назад +1

    He is so well spoken. What a cool guy

  • @MixedTone
    @MixedTone 4 года назад +2

    Steve was my Hero growing up. Played just like him and he was always honorable. I played soccer first and then switched to bball so I feel like I saw the game like him.

  • @luishernandez-qt6wg
    @luishernandez-qt6wg 4 года назад

    Book of Basketball is Real Asf. listening to this every shift at work 💪🏽🥇

  • @danbob3575
    @danbob3575 4 года назад

    this interview is gold

  • @ButteryAssNigga
    @ButteryAssNigga 4 года назад +7

    Career 43% three point shooter in 18 years.
    Let THAT one sink in...

    • @thequad950
      @thequad950 3 года назад

      Kidd has made 2000 more threes than Nash. Let that sink in. Also, No 50 40 90 club is Nash tries to take that many shots.

  • @Chrisaaad
    @Chrisaaad 4 года назад

    I live in Phoenix. Saw that team play in person about 15 times. Miss those days

  • @bsaganey
    @bsaganey 4 года назад +27

    Thinking about that series just made me sick.
    The league hate the Suns

    • @Dats_dope
      @Dats_dope 4 года назад

      Brian Saganey what series and year was it

    • @Matthew.602
      @Matthew.602 4 года назад

      Allen Chevez suns-spurs 2007 playoffs

  • @nczyoung1
    @nczyoung1 4 года назад +1

    Man those Suns teams were so fun to watch! Its crazy that their pace then is considered avg or below average in todays game. Kudos to them for an amazing run!

  • @JSalonsky
    @JSalonsky 4 года назад +4

    Nash was an unreal player, Im not sure if people know this but he says that he could’ve been a professional soccer player too and was better at it, he was like Allen Iverson with football.

  • @tahp37
    @tahp37 4 года назад

    Best podcast out there!

  • @brendanlittle2498
    @brendanlittle2498 4 года назад +10

    Steve Nash is my favorite player of all time. Nash would annihilate in today’s NBA.

  • @TrevForPresident
    @TrevForPresident 4 года назад +11

    That series was wild. A bench extender annihilated the opposing team’s best player and the receiving team ends up with catastrophic suspensions for having two players step on the floor.

  • @hugobusiness2741
    @hugobusiness2741 4 года назад

    GPGOAT. Steve is a classy chap. Perfect self assessment.

  • @tommywolmart265
    @tommywolmart265 9 месяцев назад +1

    Man, miss these games so much. Am a huge Nash fan, and used to hate the spurs because they were so dirty but in this smart, wily way. It was such an amazing rivalry watching the upstarts with their small, crafty hero with a giant heart take on this well oiled, disciplined, cunning almost sinister feeling spurs squad.
    Damn, but funny thing is, Manu was my second favorite player. And one of my favorite plays of his, and for my money it was the definition of a wily play, in that its kind of clever but also completely underhanded, was this one time, as the broadcast was cutting to a commercial, they showed a replay of Amare trying to run after a rebound and, in slow mo, you see he like struggle for a second, then he points down, and the camera pans down and Manu is legit holding his leg, like something out of a cartoon.
    Man, dont wanna sound like an old man, but im just not sure there are these kind of compelling characters, heated rivalries, or like paradigm defining clashes of ideology in todays league.

  • @jstarr453
    @jstarr453 4 года назад

    Steve Nash is a legend in Canada. Good ol BC boy made it in the bigs. Respect Steve 🇨🇦

  • @angryolive4580
    @angryolive4580 4 года назад

    Is this episode out yet? Gonna love this shit.

  • @roysreceptive
    @roysreceptive 4 года назад +8

    So that's two decisions where Stern screwed up:
    1. Penalizing the Suns for the Horry hip check on Nash
    2. The Chris Paul trade.
    Anymore?

    • @philagon
      @philagon 4 года назад +2

      L.Pasteur 3.Sonics

    • @guanoguy4800
      @guanoguy4800 4 года назад +1

      Here's a question I'm curious of. I want more answers.

    • @martianmusic1364
      @martianmusic1364 4 года назад

      L.Pasteur I think the only reason Stern vetoed the trade was because of the fixed Lakers/Kings and Lakers/Suns he was involved in, so he was hearing the music and covering his ass.

  • @sunnybibra3590
    @sunnybibra3590 4 года назад +4

    Nash is gonna be like the Stockton of the 2000s. Underrated and not nearly appreciated enough.

    • @Rodzilla97
      @Rodzilla97 4 года назад

      Stockton was better, but Nash was a beast for sure

    • @NoaEnt
      @NoaEnt 4 года назад +1

      Sunny Bibra I said the same thing during an AMA with the nba experts and one of them pointed out that with exception of Nash's defense compared the Stockton, that is 100% accurate.

  • @Royal10123
    @Royal10123 4 года назад +19

    “The conspiracy “ .. in other words .. the rig Vegas has set

  • @douglasmurphy3266
    @douglasmurphy3266 4 года назад +3

    The players had been leashed by Stern because of the Malice at the Palace during that time We've seen some leniency from Silver more recently.

  • @blackphillip564
    @blackphillip564 4 года назад +30

    Bill wishes Nash would have won like he was a Celtic.

  • @jasonbbb
    @jasonbbb 4 года назад +1

    Such a classy gentleman

  • @georgeedgar9282
    @georgeedgar9282 3 года назад

    Congrats for getting the Brooklyn job
    This interview shows how good of a coach he would be

  • @joerandazzojr.jr.1123
    @joerandazzojr.jr.1123 4 года назад +4

    Nash is easily in my top 3 favorite players to watch - not saying GOAT or anything. But I loved Nash's game and wish I could've watched him play in today's game. Those Suns/Spurs games were amazing to watch.

    • @jaccbolton
      @jaccbolton 4 года назад +1

      People dont appreciate how good that era was. The western conference was too good.. Every playoff game was worth watching unlike in the east were you knew who was going to win until the conf Finals. Nash is my favorite player right next to Kobe. Todays basketball just isn't as fun to watch as it was then. I hated watching the Sun's era come to an end.

    • @JakeMCGreen
      @JakeMCGreen 4 года назад +1

      What it really comes down to is who’s the most exciting to watch. People get too into stats and winning sometimes. Gotta remember sports are entertainment FIRST and everything else second. If it’s not entertaining who gives a shit, and Nash has always had that entertaining aspect (while also being super efficient)

    • @jaccbolton
      @jaccbolton 4 года назад

      @@JakeMCGreen Nash was the definition of a crafty SOB. He was towards the bottom of the league when it comes to athleticism with average height and speed for a pg, but he managed to do things nobody else could do like him. He was a playmaking genius with pure scoring abilities.

  • @Alfram
    @Alfram 4 года назад

    Nash the GOAT PG, dude single handily got me to pick up a basketball by just watching him. God bless his soul

  • @jflack6
    @jflack6 4 года назад +2

    My favorite point gaurd of ALLLLL-TIMMMME!

  • @mikefrizzy
    @mikefrizzy 4 года назад +2

    In NBA Live during that time I always picked the Suns and dropped 40 with Nash. Always wondered why he didn’t just take games over but those were the times

  • @n3rds3y3vi3w
    @n3rds3y3vi3w 4 года назад +14

    i was so pissed when that happened. it swung the series like draymond's suspension swung the finals against the cavs.

    • @Alic4444
      @Alic4444 4 года назад +3

      That's another lame one. NBA needs to realize that when it's a tough call to make, you should always side with letting the players decide the games.

    • @caseybriones1085
      @caseybriones1085 4 года назад +1

      Warriors blew a 3-1 lead is different going home 2-2 lol!

    • @n3rds3y3vi3w
      @n3rds3y3vi3w 4 года назад

      @@caseybriones1085 the suspension was similar, not the series, genius.

    • @caseybriones1085
      @caseybriones1085 4 года назад

      Oh my bad for not analyzing your comment thoroughly. Still the warriors blew a 3-1 lead lol

    • @RafaelGarcia-jb3me
      @RafaelGarcia-jb3me 4 года назад

      @@Alic4444 Spurs still would have won

  • @user-hs2cg3wd5t
    @user-hs2cg3wd5t 4 года назад

    awesome!!

  • @flawlessmsc
    @flawlessmsc 4 года назад +1

    It's crazy to think he would be even more legendary if played in today's league. His style just a perfect fit for modern basketball. Fantastic 3 points shooter, very fast paced and you don't have to play defense these days

  • @LiqCharles
    @LiqCharles 4 года назад +1

    Honestly Steve is the best offenSive PG in the last three decades. If you think about it, they was nothing he couldn’t do offensively. He made everyone better, he could shoot from anywhere, and he could finish.

  • @seaslug7421
    @seaslug7421 4 года назад

    This collective experience of playing fast, playing efficient and playing small is what paved the way for the warriors dynasty

  • @martyvlrjr2333
    @martyvlrjr2333 4 года назад

    Class act

  • @Lu89m
    @Lu89m 4 года назад

    That PHX team was beast.

  • @CommandereON
    @CommandereON 4 года назад +10

    Hearing them discuss “selling the call” reminds me of how Manu flopped so good/bad like a soccer man. And that really contextualizes how Lebron justified his flops in any interview without actually admitting it when he was indirectly asked; do anything to win.

  • @KingKlose82
    @KingKlose82 4 года назад

    He is the best. What a Great guy. In my all Time Team he is the PG

  • @cornucopiaone5254
    @cornucopiaone5254 9 месяцев назад

    I remember this stuff so well. I think Nash lived in Tribeca during the offseason back then.
    I heard he played pickup ball around Manhattan back then. If I still lived in NY back then I would have tried to track him down and play 1 on 1 to 11. The bet being if I score 5 or more he has to shoot more the upcoming season lol!
    Dude could get whatever he wanted whenever he wanted it. To some degree I had to admire his unselfishness. It's easy to be pass first when you have limited scoring ability.
    But this dude had a complete scoring arsenal. I wonder if his brother ever said "Hey Bro, Dad said he thinks you should shoot more."
    He definitely left some chips on the table. But I get it. He really took pride in sharing the rock.

  • @manugulati1105
    @manugulati1105 4 года назад +8

    “MVP like Steve Nash”

  • @ernestoteto5382
    @ernestoteto5382 3 года назад

    My first favorite player

  • @mr.roboto7330
    @mr.roboto7330 4 года назад +1

    I will never forget this as a huge Suns fan! This resulted in two of our players getting suspended! I hate this Spurs and Horry with a passion to this day.

  • @andrewcastrejon9090
    @andrewcastrejon9090 4 года назад +2

    Nash was just ahead of his time mane

  • @dash4800
    @dash4800 4 года назад +1

    I like how you they are talking about revolutionizing basketball with all the there's and dantoni wanting just to go faster and shoot more threes as if it actually works. But here you have dantoni still with no ring while shooting mostly threes while teams that find a balance and have the ability to slow down are the ones who win.

  • @draggabeats
    @draggabeats 4 года назад

    I usually listen at 1.5x on Podcast, didn’t realize how slow the tempo of the main beat was...

  • @mako4874
    @mako4874 4 года назад +3

    people say he shouldnt have won 2 mvps- at the time- he was applauded, then a few years after- people were saying how shaq should have won them- now its coming around again- where people see and are reminded again- just how diminant he was - due to how dominant the guards are today- using what he brouighjt to the game.

    • @ImBarryScottCSS
      @ImBarryScottCSS 4 года назад

      Nobody says Shaq should have won them... People say Kobe should have won them and they are right. Kobe was clearly the best player in the league both years that Nash won it, but he was ignored because people didn't like his personality and the cloud of his court case was still hanging over him.

    • @torpedospurs
      @torpedospurs 4 года назад

      @@ImBarryScottCSS He's talking about Nash's first MVP in 2005. The Lakers didn't make the playoffs. Kobe wasn't even in the MVP conversation.

  • @mitchellmanibusan7652
    @mitchellmanibusan7652 4 года назад

    That suns team made me love basketball. They are underrated

  • @slickdirt
    @slickdirt 4 года назад

    Best PG ever. Super balanced. Had extremely good vision and IQ

  • @AI3JeWelz
    @AI3JeWelz 4 года назад

    I could watch him speak all day

  • @lanagorgeous9485
    @lanagorgeous9485 4 года назад

    Love Steve Nash

  • @joecook5689
    @joecook5689 4 года назад +1

    Nashtastic is best ever because he said he hoped he had a forehead scar for the rest of his life, because it was from a collision with john Stockton. The best point guard of all time, his words.

  • @mediocreturbulence5746
    @mediocreturbulence5746 4 года назад

    For as long as I live, I'm going to remember Steve Nash

  • @WillWigg
    @WillWigg 4 года назад +1

    One of the best point guards ever.

  • @shorafarahani
    @shorafarahani 4 года назад +1

    So... So... Much... Heartache
    Watching this reminds me how much I loved that Phoenix team and it never got the respect it deserves. EVERY damn year was some stupid shit (Joe Johnson breaking his ankle, stupid Robert Horry shit, Ron Artest tip 2 second remaining...)
    Love you Steve, and love you Bill for doing this

  • @yopappy6599
    @yopappy6599 4 года назад +1

    Yep. A point ppl forget.
    Taking a bunch of threes was a cardinal sin back then.
    My 8th grade coach would bench your ass if you took a 3 in transition/fast break.
    Make it or not.
    He'd also bench the center if I got a rebound over him.

  • @koreypaul6698
    @koreypaul6698 4 года назад

    5:00 "Corey comes over and body checks you" 🤔

  • @user-cj1vn2ch5n
    @user-cj1vn2ch5n 4 года назад +10

    if Nash had shot twenty times a game, he would have got 30 points per game.

    • @Rodzilla97
      @Rodzilla97 4 года назад +6

      he was a much better scorer than he showed, he just chose to run the point like Stockton and Magic did. his ball handling and shooting was so good

  • @tfizzle56
    @tfizzle56 4 года назад +53

    Refs always ruining something

    • @mikemiller510
      @mikemiller510 4 года назад +3

      The NBA pushes certain teams/players and have the refs carry it out.

    • @Alic4444
      @Alic4444 4 года назад +2

      This was the most bullshit moment in a league with a lot of bullshit moments. Read the damn room and let the players finish the series, not the refs.

    • @boomersooner535
      @boomersooner535 4 года назад +1

      A non sports fan that watched part of the game noticed it seemed something was wrong and there was too much aggression on the floor

    • @dexterramos1826
      @dexterramos1826 4 года назад

      It's not the refs, it's the NBA

  • @csmooth202
    @csmooth202 4 года назад

    As a Lakers fan I used to love how passive Nash and CP3 were offensively. Of course they’re gonna kill us with assists but when those two putting up 15-20 shots a game they were unstoppable

  • @Rodzilla97
    @Rodzilla97 4 года назад +2

    Nash for sure could have avg 20+ ppg, he just held back and looked for other guys to score, Stockton and Magic style

  • @century8281
    @century8281 4 года назад

    Man I wish my man Steve Nash would have won a Championship in Dallas one of the best free throw percentage in the league and all around game. Would take him over any point guard in today's game he see the big picture when he's on the court Vision Goat. 👁🐐

  • @jackman9035
    @jackman9035 4 года назад +1

    Magic, Steph, Nash Top 3 pg of all time

  • @ItsTheMunz
    @ItsTheMunz 4 года назад +12

    Probably one of the greatest teams to never make a finals. Though once or twice they were clearly screwed.

    • @jlui21
      @jlui21 4 года назад

      - Amare getting suspended...that changed the dynamics. They could have gone to a game 7 if Amare had played in Game 5.

  • @zjz19900621
    @zjz19900621 4 года назад +1

    Man, looking at what Trae Young is doing right now. Nash in this era would be averaging 30+10 if he is more aggressive. I was a Rocket fan back then. Nash in the 4th quarter always scared the shit of me.

  • @xavierrainey8747
    @xavierrainey8747 4 года назад +21

    People forget when Curry won his 2 MVPs Nash was helping him

    • @ygamzahir9994
      @ygamzahir9994 4 года назад

      Xavier Rainey what?

    • @mruv5944
      @mruv5944 4 года назад +3

      He actually wasn’t under Warriors management during currys first MVP and most of the 2nd. But he has been influential in the past 3 years

  • @72vince27
    @72vince27 4 года назад +14

    "He's underrated" "He should've played now" "The Suns should've played today"
    He has 2 MVP's take it easy y'all I think he's done enough.

  • @conanbdetective
    @conanbdetective 4 года назад

    The Suns at the time, as good as they were, didn't really have enough "dirty work" guys. Because SAS was good inside as PHX was outside, getting extra possessions from rebounds and deflections were key to swinging games.
    Most championship teams of recent memory have it. MJ's Bulls had Rodman and Horace. 00's Lakers had Horry, Walker, and Fox for the 3-peat and had Fisher, Odom and Bynum for the back to back. 08 Celtics had Perkins, Tony Allen, Powe, Davis and Rondo. GSW had Zaza, McGee, Ezeli and has Draymond. Toronto has Ibaka, OG, Gasol and VanVleet. Cavs had Thompson, Smith, Delly, and Mozgov. During their run, PHX had some defenders in Bell and Marion but they couldn't get rebounds.

  • @adamosborne388
    @adamosborne388 4 года назад

    I really think Steve would be a good coach. Hope he gets some opportunities in the future.

  • @picknroll929
    @picknroll929 4 года назад

    I always believe Nash was the pioneer of the modern domination of pointguards today. It was Nash playstyle then when Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Then Curry, Irving, Dame etc.

  • @ShareefusMaximus
    @ShareefusMaximus 4 года назад +27

    He should be a GM somewhere.

    • @denistuohy2535
      @denistuohy2535 4 года назад +5

      I’d like to see him go to the Knicks. Because anyone is better than what they have right now

  • @kramer1372
    @kramer1372 4 года назад

    love Nash