SQUAD vs HELL LET LOOSE | Comparison Review
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I play HLL and Squad and enjoy them both. Definitely right that HLL is more accessible and that's the game that's finally got some of my friends into tactical shooters; its more straight forward and new player friendly. The only issue I'd say with this is it is attracting a lot of people who're previously into COD and BFV and still have that arcade 'mindset' which can take a lot of time to ween people out of and can translate into really disorganized teams and lone wolfing. As for Squad, it can be incredibly enjoyable with a decent squad, but the learning curve is unduly steep and unforgiving making it very hard for players with even reasonable experience to engage with Squad leading roles or utilize vehicles effectively and thus one of the reasons I play it no where near as much as HLL. Either way, when I play both there are aspects I wish the other had (like I wish Squad allowed squaddies to ping targets as they can in HLL and I wish medics were as essential in HLL as they're in Squad). Great games though.
That's what fire teams are for. Each squad can have 2 who can ping map
HLL as a middleground is fantastic.
Scratches the Battlefield and Squad itch at the same time.
Would love a modern warfare games from HLL devs.
As a squad player i think hell let loose is harder due to the lack of scopes and the chaotic nature of ww2
I can agree with that. Its hard to kill people from 300 meters to 500 meters even if you’re a sniper
@@endlessthunder6161 and its kinda easy to do that in squad.
Hi! I’m going to buy 1 of these two games this week. Please, can you give me an advice, which would be better to buy in 2021? I want to feel an atmosphere of war with close-knit team. Also can you answer on other my question: which community will be better to join? (Also my native language isn’t english, so Im’ sorry if I made some mistakes 😁)
@@bigmek4051 nothing really beats the realism of warfare than squad. Hell let loose for the fun gameplay. Community in squad varies, sometimes you meet very nice and helpful people and rarely you meet warzone kids.
@@Chris-ts2yc thank you)
Stop reloading after every kill. It hurts my heart
It was only that one clip my fault
Naw, almost all of his Squad footage shows him with almost all his mags yellow or orange! That seems like it'd be so stressful, and reloading only to have a half full mag would lead to a bad time.
@@Averag3Hom3boy As long as you have full mags and are same to do so reloading is always the better option, even if you spent a single bullet. You never know when you're gonna need those extra ones.
Visually the maps are just superior in hell let loose, the dismemberment is also insane, I hope they take over the industry
Good video! I definitely agree that Hell Let Loose is a great gateway game into a more hardcore game like Squad. I switched over from COD and Battlefield, you definitely have to have a different mindset going in to these games.
For sure. HLL has become polluted with COD sad saps though and most games I enter are majorly disorganized on at least one side, leading to terrible games, win or lose.
Too many lone wolfers, non mic users, riflemen (no squad leaders) and K/D ratio players.
@@tonybleau6219 I'm guessing I can join a good Discord to remedy all the negatives you mention?
HLL is based mostly on Darkest Hour: Europe, not Squad. Claiming that Squad has contributed to HLL's design or growth makes no sense to me.
I came from day of defeat, fan of darkest hour and the first red ochestra, But HLL doesnt do it justice, Post scriptum is the better candidate.
@@HoLyzPiNoyZ post scriptum originally started out as a ww2 mod for squad
Squad feels nice and casual after playing a lot of Escape from Tarkov.
Everything except maybe Arma 3 feels casual after EFT
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This is an unofficial opinion but I really don't like tarkov's gunplay. the recoil feels fake and the TTK is stupid high
@@risingSisyphus exactly how i feel about tarkov
Escape from Trashkov is one of the most unrealistic "simulators" out there and yet you claim the opposite. Oh please tell me what's realistic about tarkov. The completely over-exaggerated recoil on stock weapons? But pay up a few hundreds of thousands of roubles and suddenly they are turned into laser beams! Or perhaps you are impressed by the completely fake ballistics where EVERY armor and EVERY bullet has COMPLETELY MADE UP penetration strength/resistance. For example a GOST 4 rated plate in Tarkov somehow gets EZ penetrated by mere ball 7,62 ammo. Oh, and don't forget that they started adding COMPLETELY MADE UP ammunition, such as the .366 "AP" even though no such thing exists.
Yup, Tarkov sure is a hardcore realistic combat simulator, just like they marketed it. Yup, surely.
Do Post scriptum and HLL next!!
Do you want Modern or do you want WW2? Do you want slow and more Strategy Based or more Fast Paced and more forgiving? That's what I would ask someone
Then you are wrong. Squad is simply more tactical then hell let loose. How does strategy have anything to do with the era a game is set in? That make no sense at all XD
@@53strat55those were two different questions and many ppl, either or could lead to a game they would like more.
great video, keep up the good work!
the maps in HLL are based on recordings and pictures of the same places in and after WW2 so they are not designed for the flow of the game they are designed to be as close to what it actually was like as possible
i really like both games but when it comes to maps for me HLL clearly is the winner
maps in squad for me feel kinda empty when it comes to building structures
no furniture whatsoever it just all feels like a big shooting range to me
I think that buildings should be reworked as well
Who cares about if a structure has furniture or not if it's the exact same copy paste for each type of building. Also HLL barren open fields don't fit with the arcadey gunplay, it's way too easy to snipe people with SMGs from 100+ m on maps like foy and purple heart lane.
@@JustSkram but squad structures are not copy and paste?
that is not a positive, dude
HLL maps may be real in their graphical nature but they are so unrealistic with how you can traverse the terrain, fields make up big parts of the maps and usually have 1 or 2 distincts entries/exits to each other because of those fences/walls that u can't climb over, which makes camping those way too easy and combat much too predictable. City maps are the best in both games but Squad's Fallujah map is by far the best. Nearly every building is accessible on multiple floors and it's massive
Hell Let Loose is still an arcade semi "realistic" FPS at heart
And Squad is a logistics sim not an tactical shooter 😂
Hell let loose maps are literal copies of the historical equivalent so to call them unrealistic is entirely untrue.
HLL is the easiest to get in for a PTSD Simulator. Most ppl don't take it as serious as Squad. You can joke around, call for your momma in proximity, and usually get 3-5 ppl will join in with the Shennanigans in your WW2 2nd Life. It's hilarious and complex at the same time. Still requires a bit of outside research to get the jist down. I found it to be the more "FUN" of the 2, but also if you're going for something more serious with more than likely other service members, you may have better luck with Squad. Still both fun, but Squad just didn't hit for me like HLL.
I just don't understand why squads map graphics are blah when HLL map graphics are incredible
Wow Squad is just amazing! It is the first game I ever saw with a realistic magazine System. So if you shoot 10 rounds and do a tactical reload you keep the Rest rounds in the magazine and the amo is not one mass like in bf5 and Cod
check out tarkov as well
many games have that
Rising storm, Arma, Red orchestra, Operation Flashpoint, delta force. This is a staple of the tactical shooter genre
and insurgency sandstorm
Ready or not does this as well
You can’t compare greatness with greatness.
i have both and find squad a LOT harder to play, and just takes way too long to get into it, Gave it a go in march and gave up after a couple of hours. Bought HLL in july and haven't stopped playing it since. Ive owned SQUA since 2016... and put 80 hours into it... ive already put 170 hours into HLL in a few months of owning it. To me that says a lot about the 2 games.
Squad is definitely harder on the learning curve! HLL seems to appeal to a broader audience.
show @@tonybleau6219
It's like you knew my next purchase
To me, hll is better because of the stupid Game security violation error in squad. Cant fix that error. Other than that i completely agree with what you said in the video :)
Just the video I needed
Hey,
I'm new to squad and I was wondering if there's an easy way to find a dedicated group of people to play with. I find it a lot easier to communicate if you're comfortable with each other, etc. Anyone have a recommendation?
Join squad discord server
@@satriadewazuda2949 Thank you! I did and found some people to play with
I tend to play on the same server and I normally find the same people on there
If you're from Australia, then BigD Gaming
TLR is a good clan
The animation, and all graphics in general are better. The terrain actually provides real concealment in HLL. This game is absolutely bloody. The various dismemberment animations and how they interact with the physics engine is the best I've ever seen I'm often witness to seeing players die in new and interesting ways. This game reminds you that war is HELL. The nature of the weapons also provides a better feel and balance. Ironically, the three factions of USA, USSR, and Germany have a difference in firepower distribution that makes for a kind of asymmetrical match up. Like the bolt action kar98 is the only main weapon option for like 6 of a 9 man German infantry squad. But the mg42 is rightfully the most powerful small arm on the field due to the games fearsome suppression mechanic. Recon squads are the only units to be equipped with scoped weapons, and I appreciate that alot. They're also limited to two squads per team which really eliminates sniper spamming.
There's a clear demarcation between playing offence and defence in this game. People are rarely messing around on parts of the map that have no strategic value. The two game modes are invasion and warfare, the difference being that invasion has one faction advancing and one faction defending. Once a point is captured by the advancing faction, it cannot be recaptured by the defense. In warfare, factions must simultaneously defend a point and attack a point, hoping to advance and gain territory on the map and grind out a win by capturing the majority of the map and holding it till time runs out, or by capturing the whole map. There is no spawn count in this game, so you can die literally 1000 times and it will not affect the outcome of the match. I actually appreciate this.
If you stay true to actual an military principle like applying overwhelming firepower on covered and concealed enemy positions in order to manuever units within range for close quarter assault, the game rewards you.
Often times a match will last for an hour or more you may end up like me, with a little PTSD after each match that makes me have to step away for a bit, get some fresh air, maybe smoke a cigarette, and psych myself out before the next match.
Your right bro, what you see in all other games? All with sniper...Hell let loose is totally perfect. However, for such a good game, the community would expect a lot of updates. The mechanics of the game are so good, the base. There should be a lot more weapons, vehicles, anything with parachutes. In any case, it's by far the best game I've ever played, i can say it after 800 hours in game.
Glad both of these games exist. I'm not so much into "hardcore" shooters, but I enjoy games that are middling between Battlefield and Squad/Post Scriptum, so I really enjoy Hell Let Loose. I'm looking forward to the logistics update that I feel was inspired by Squad.
This genre learns from itself I feel, and it's great we have player choice. Now I just want a game with a successful "multiplayer campaign." Red Orchestra/Rising Storm 2 were good games, but design decisions made this mode a crapshoot.
Gamer tip. Don’t reload after only shooting 5 rounds. Example. If you had a fresh 30rnd mag. Would’ve cleared the fob. But still nice kills. U just needed one more round for the marksmen :/
With regards to HLL I would like and option to demote yr squad leader..been in a couple of games where the squad is wanting to work together but the guy who took squad lead dosn't communicate and runs off on there own leaving the other 5 members trying to work together without the option of setting up OPs etc.. I have both games but tend to play HLL more..great vids :)
Just make a new squad? :P
Jason the potential for malicious use is enough to not allow this
8:22 i got happy to see someone wants to be my friend on steam then i got jebaited
I want HLL gameplay with Squads theme so
Mf bad
"it's pretty easy to wipe down a team in HLL vs Squad..." proceeds to take down a full 9man squad in Squad.
Didn’t you already do one of these not long ago ?.
been playing squad for the last 4 months, heard about this game, decided to give it a try. hope the visibility is a lil better
Is it worth it? I’m new to PC but I want to get into milsim games. I loved playing battlefield 4 and loved flying the transport helos to drop off people at objectives and would always communicate the best I could, but I’m worried squad is a bit more hardcore than I realize. I want to be able to have fun yet be careful with what I’m doing
Squad sometimes looks as if it's still running on the BF2 engine. The one thing that HLL needs to copy from Squad or Post Scriptum is the whole gunplay and ballistics aspect
Agreed, the gunplay in squad/post scriptum is superior imo and where gameplay matters most to me those seem like the better game.
Could squad ever be on consoles like hll
Not being funneled through areas is what I liked about Battlefield
You’re only funneled if you allow yourself to be
Its almost 2023 and squad still has more players than any tactical shooter....I love this game.
Please do a comparison video between HLL, Squad and Enlisted those are three games people never put against each other.
Unnecessary to mention Enlisted... This is a joke game, Squad and HLL are serious games.
Dont know why so, but prefer HLL much more then Squad after 3 years in PR. Strange things :D
i want to go for hll but i hear squad has a better community
Hell Let Loose looks like a better looking Rising storm 2: Vietnam. I'm already addicted to that game like crazy.
I switched from years of playing Rising Storm and Red Orchestra over to Hell Let Loose. The squad system and comms in HLL really makes it a lot more immersive and fun.
Needs a space. I read it as BILL YEAT WORLD.
Can someone tell me if im the only person that is lagging when i’m in a big fight in squad?
Ur a fortnite kid thats why u dont understand that fps can drop
NicoBralic bruh in not a fortnite kid but k
Hyper Dream then whats ur pfp
@NicoBralic why so pissy?
I just can't do slow movement speed it's just so annoying. He'll let loose has only one problem, you kove slow as hell
I dont really understand the player numbers explosion, 99% of Squad is still the same. Probably many took a break and just waited for the game to release
I bought squad recently and I like it a lot. Its true that it isn't very accesible for new player in the genre. But once u get into it and understand the dynamics of the battlefield you're gonna have great time. After seeing this video and reading through a bunch of articles I'm gonna buy hell let loose and I think I will have more fun there. And very informative, detailed and well put together video. I love it
Same dude:)
You will for sure have more fun if you stick to HLL. Put 1k hours in squad and picked up HLL. I'm mad at myself for not doing it sooner. Far superior game it's much more polished and less buggy.
Good review. I bought Squad yesterday and I am taking my time with the training before I jump online. I think I'll buy HLL next pay day.
HLL requires a beast of a pc to run good. Not sure about squad.
@@gutzzgutzz6795 kinda late but what hardware do you have and what FPS do you get
@@policebaby8750 i have a 3060ti and i9, running game low graphics with 70 fps
Should've been Post Scriptum against Squad, they're made by the same company..
I've put 1k hours into squad without even trying HLL up until yesterday. After the squsd update and me finding out how good HLL is, ill probably never touch squad again. Instead of reworking the combat system squad should have added more content. Specifically quality of life content that HLL already has like prorgression and character customization. The games arent even close. I used to love squad. Even before the update HLL shits on squad everyday of the week its not even comparable.
I actually think squad looks better graphically than HLL, but I usually just don't like unreal engine very much
I am a veteran Battlefield player, so I like HLL more cuz it is not hardcore mil-sim. I wouldn't play Post Scriptum.
Why would you compare these 2 games?
subscribed on first vid, first on second vid
Thanks man! What a legend.
post scriptum and HELL LET LOOSE pls
Id give SQUAD a try
I come from Rising Storm 2 Vietnam, should I go for Squad, right?
Since I never liked Battlefield or CoD.
@@pedruskoz Hell Let Loose has a similar playstyle and similar mechanics to Rising Storm 2 Vietnam so I think you'd like it more.
hll superior anytime in terms of gunplay and immersion
Why everyone always forget games like Operation Flashpoint? It was Operation Flashpoint way before BF2, Project Reality etc
Operation flashpoint was very good , i saw your comment . I believe it was the first game that did 120 vs 120 .
I don't love HLL not having a ticket system. I see lots of people running in, dying, respawning and doing the exact same thing. I've seen much more tactical play in squad
HLL is definitely more accessible, some of my family members really enjoy playing the PS5 version and they used to just play CoD and fortnite.
120 kills with arty on hll good or no
kukri 1212 good.
Who cares, k/d doesn't mean anything if your team can't cap the points.
@@JustSkram I shelled all the points and helped guard them sooo idk what u sayin we also won
@@kylera5565 I'm saying your k/d doesn't mean anything in games like this. You could of easily of lost too. Capturing sectors and holding them is far more important. You can go 0-20 in this game but if you're holding points and flanking, you're far more useful and important than the guy who is racking up kills but not playing the objective. Your body wasn't physically in the point.
Weird flex but ok
But isn't squad recoil over exagerated?
Its more realistic to real life, wouldnt say its "exaggerated" per say
LOL, when you said Squad had high recoil from this 3 years ago.....try playing it now.
How about Post Scriptum and HLL instead. Come WW2 games and not a modern game with a WW2 game.
I prefer squad and Post scriptum
I feel like squad is just short of becoming a great game. I feel like they are good at making the game but do a poor job w the gameplay side. Every time i play squad everybody is spawning on the same point and the enemy always knows where it is. Its either boring af or a complete sht show. You have to know how to implement features that allow players to do more. In hell let loose you can place spawn points using the watch with ease and it makes team play easier and more available. At the end of the day its a game and there needs to be things keeping it interesting throughout the match weather that's making smaller maps more spawn points idk but it can't be that hard to fix or make a game mode that will drag in a larger crowd.
That music from de BFV in the beginning 🎵👌
my question is if either of the games fell like a walk sim
Squad very much so. Hell Let Loose not so much.... It can feel that way if you don't know what you're doing, and worse... it can feel like a death simulator if you charge the front line like you would in a Battlefield game.
Once you get over the initial skill cap and predict the enemy players movements it's worth it though. There's way more potential for huge multi kills in a game like Hell Let Loose.
Hell let loose is fire!
its so repetetive
@@luisalpjax3929 what shooter game isn't after a while ?
You will not be led by the hand. Be patient. Focus.
Damage and destraction graphics is lacking on those games..
The fragility of spawning in HLL and the general lack of team work to set them up has actually caused me to run MORE in that game to get to action that in squad or post scriptum. HLL is very hit or miss and inconsistent. I'd honestly rather just play RO2/RS2 or battlefield if I want a more arcade-like large scale game.
It's much better now
Squad has more realistic on first person animation (reloading, running, throwing grenande), immersive sounds and explosion, and tactics.
HLL has more realistic 3d environment (folliage, building, and some little things that make the map immersive) and better rendered assets
Jesus for someone who likes these kinds of games you certainly reload like its an arcade shooter
its a video game, calm your tits....
Good
Thanks buddy!
im sad because my pc cant run squad :(
TheDark Jiraffe just wait and maybe you can get a better processor or graphics card
@@jerestan8064 im gonna buy a rtx 2070 or gtx 1080 second hand and then build a new pc actually
i spen 200hrs on Squad, i liked this game, but graphics looks vibrant and cartoonish for military game..
3:10 that hurts to watch
HLL community just doesn't communicate or work together like they do in SQUAD. Unless someone knows a decent server. let me know. otherwise my hll experience has been just as boring as battlefield except when you die you have to slow run for 5 miles to get back.
hll has bad sound when you are been shot you dont know where that came from!
In squad it is like real life the best sound desing ever all other shooters is just bad!
I wish a console-only version would come out for Squad
Emphasis on “console-only” so we don’t have to mix w PC virgins
You barely even talked about the teamwork differences (it seemed like you only mentioned the map communication and maybe one could construe the logistics coverage as relating to teamwork). These are huge parts of Squad at least, less so in Hell Let Loose. From the footage, it seems maybe you don't care about playing as a team that much but it could have just been selected footage. The teamwork mechanics and overall feel of squad with respect to teamwork is the reason I play that game and I'm by far not alone.
About 70% of my hll play time has great communication and teamwork. The reason for the 30% is the newer players
I played squad first and i really could not get into it. I am personally awful at long range combat where bullet drop heavily influences shooting. I would play an hour long game and 7 kills would be an accomplishment.
I will say squad did give me one of my most immersive experiences in gaming. There were like 20 of us stuck in a building in the airstrip just being constantly under artillery fire and constant MG fire it was fucking awesome. and then we all died
Hell let Loose i feel like i can actually play the game.
Squad feels clunky... the weapon controll is horrible and the fatigue system sucks when u have to run long ranges... tried Squad again few days ago.. i simply dont like it at all. Whenever i jump into HLL i get addicted for that game!
Bruh squad got remastered graphics and looks 10x time s better...
Squad really needs some sort of progression
Why? It makes no sense for a FPS like squad. You don’t need to be a certain rank to be LAT, HAT or medic it would make new players useless and too Grindy rather than realistic
No
Sorry dude but you know nothing about reality of shooting modes realty of shooting auto or single or burst , I have seen peoples shooting full auto with no miss and is powerful option in assault well handle by large strong men whom know what he does and what is mean recoil is an factor not standard,hell let’s lose it mean soldiers are trained so recoil is less and diffraction of weapons as calibre is different and other factors thanks
Regarding on weapons, HLL is not balanced. It would be nice if we have more guns like the M2 Hyde, Springfield and MP45 H(luftwaffe) guns to use.
"hll without mic is fun and you can play just by visual communication...but its more fun with blabla" xD ... there is not a single german server where you arent kicked seconds after entering without a mic. communication is key guys! wtf ffs. you just simply CANT win against a team that talks to eachother if youre not, because its a TEAM-game. So why bother playin if its predestined that youll loose?? just for senseless pixle murder? i rly dont get that mentality and most people are actually nice in chat btw so plz dont be afraid. :-*
I have never heard of an Arma player switching to squad. Why even bother with that arcade bullshit?
HLL>Squad
The HLL graphics bother me. They’re so bad and I can’t even see a good distance
Nah. Your PC is just terrible.
Hll is very enjoyable , this game remind me to brothers in arms trilogy , and it is a good think :)
Hell let loose is far superior. I just picked it up after 1k hours in squad. Much more action way less running. No where near as buggy. Squad you can get a tank stuck on a damn pebble. Its actually EXTREMELY COMMON to get stuck on small objects. Yet the dev team focuses on reworking a combat wystem. People should be furious with the devs but the community wants to keep the money coming in from thier white listers so they all just play along and.give 5 stars to this shit update.
the reason i chose squad, is because there are no bots. its a huge deal breaker for me and the reason i wont play arma
Squad is better
HLL
My graphics look better on Squad than Hell Let Loose....Help!
Squad pushes the realism to its limits?
Ever heard of Arma?!
You mean Arma where you can’t jump or climb over walls? Where you do a weird step-over when using ‘v’. Yeah that’s realistic..
@@Ncd780 and it runs like shit
dont u need mods to enjoy that game? i heard the vanilla game is cheeks
both game have no offline bots, so once the ppl decide to move on to another game , the game is dead.
thats why i still play today bf2 and red orchestra or arma 2 but not newer bf games and other without bots and that is sad.
i wanted hell let lose so much but no bots is a deal breaker for me sadly .
i just want both to be like bf
enjoy bf then
Who the fuck wanted this comparison? Casual WW2 game vs. Current Day Milsim. Hey Billy, when does the FS 2020 vs. Project Cars 2 comparison come out?