New 2020 Comparison | HELL LET LOOSE vs POST SCRIPTUM (Review)
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- So much has changed in Hell Let Loose and Post Scriptum since 2019. Which one is better in 2020?
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![Hell Let Loose vs Post Scriptum [2020] | Direct Comparison](/img/1.gif)
Both are better than battlefield V
But What If people.want to play as transgender female?
who cares about the millions that died in this conflict right?
@@Aureus_ Exactly
I felt sad for the men who raised their children as a single dads
Genderfield 5🤣
Phoenix Chonk leftist field 5
Y E S
So that’s how these games look if you don’t play on a toaster
U joke but watch, toasters & all appliances will eventually have screeeeens lol
I dunno man, my ROG Zephyrus G14 has a Ryzen R9 4900HS and an RTX 2060 Max Q in it but it'll definitely toast some bread. We'll see if my new cooling pad can keep up haha... 😬
@@dysko3560 bros flexing his laptop rtx 2060 which runs at 45 watts
@@mr.sharky3031 How is saying that my laptop gets hot a flex? It doesn't take much to get a small laptop hot, and I was simply trying to crack a joke on my own behalf. If you really wanna go the sassy edge lord route though, your specs are off... out of the box it pulls 65, but if you think I haven't shunted, overclocked, undervolted, and done all the firmware fiddling I can to get it past that, then you don't even know what conversation you're trying to start.
@@dysko3560 bros still flexing his laptop that runs at 65 Watts
Trying out PS after playing HLL for a few weeks
-Game feels way more "finished", proffesional and polished
-Engagements are more long range and it might be hard to even see whos shooting at you
-Greater ADS zoom helps a lot (similar to RO2)
-Way more vehicles, better done too
I like what PS has but I still have more fun in the buggy mess that is HLL
icons over friendly players ended my HLL gameplay right from the start.
@@markomaricic8678 you can disable it
@@erwinsmith1324 oof XD
Post Scriptum is nearly a dead game though and the small community still playing it is toxic! Hell Let Loose is growing and growing! The one thing I fucking hate in Hell Let Loose the most is the ugly icons over friendly players which ruins the immersion and realism of the gameplay!
@@Jew-Gi-Oh_419 not true at all
I have yet to play hell let loose but post scriptum has really tickled my fancy. The details are absolutely wonderful, it’s rare to see a game put so much into creating accurate kit. For example there are multiple maps with us paratroopers, some on dday, some in market garden, and in reality between these two operations there was very little difference between the equipment, but instead of just reusing the paratrooper assets that in the end would be barely notable, they bothered making tiny changes like swapping the type of boots they had to be historically accurate for each battle. it’s such a small insignificant detail yet they felt the need to change that, it just shows that they care so much about the product that they are producing. But to go farther, PS has to have some of the best sound design of any game I’ve played, gun shots sound distinctive and properly punchy, the sound made by reloading is wonderfully rewarding, explosions are great, and the sound of a shell whistling over your head, or a spitfires engine roaring towards you? Properly hair razing the first time it happens. You hear armor far before you see it, and having squad mates get jumpy thinking they heard something adds so much. In post scriptum I have sometimes found my self completely sucked in, post scriptum has to be the best ww2 shooter experience I’ve ever had. I really recommend it
Played both games since start and if player wants game were there is communication and tactics more involved and death that matters more then PS totally for sure.
I enjoy the more "casual" nature of Hell Let Loose simply because I already play enough Squad. If I get tired of Squad, I hop on HLL and vice versa.
Same
I Played Post Scriptum, and I made the mistake of it being my first tactical shooter, so I was panicking 24/7. I think I’ll go to Hell let Loose
It will culture shock you. Come back to Post Scriptum when you're ready, we don't eat new players, actually communities have a boot camp to train new players.
Join a squad with an SL using a mic. Helps a bunch.
@@xcas9 you know some communities?
@Sherwin Adolfo There's plenty, depends on your region, just check your Post Scriptum Server list, Servers are hosted by different communities from different part of the world, they include their discord server link in the server name in the server list.
Communities most of time announce in the discord to seed empty servers to fill it.
For me PS is on the perfect edge between fun games and milsim. It's like ArmA for people who actually want to have fun. From what I've seen, HLL is more similar to games like Red Orchestra, so it's just arcadey enough that you don't really have to play as a team. What I love about PS is that people actually work together and communicate. Also, the sounds and the adrenaline when you're getting shot. HLL is a good introduction for people who are sick of Battlefield, though.
To be honest, I'm not surprised that more people play HLL. It's more similar to mainstream AAA games. Games like Post Scriptum have always been niche games. Maybe it's even good for Post Scriptum that it has a smaller player base, because if more people played it, it would devolve into another arcade game without tactics.
Clap Clap you nailed it!
People lean towards casual gaming in masses. Then there are people who like history, realism in movies, documentaries and milsim gameplay :)
@@MeediaArtur I have to laugh my ass off every time people tell me that communication is so important for the realism in a WW2 game. Verbal communication on a WW2 battlefield is anything but historically correct.
@@dudelebowski_ That's a fair point. But then again our technology can't support or has lack of funds for the real simulator of ww2. Future is coming and vr headsets are evolving. We live in good times :)
Probably a lot of people like me who want to get into the genre but are intimidated by Squad or PS play HLL.
I really don't like the bad appropriation in HLL. Especially in Carentan, I'm a history buff so when PS accurately recreated Carentan experience, I'm so happy. Carentan is between 2 paratroopers, 6th Falschirmjäger regiment and 101st Airborne, they're accurately present in PS, because you're Falschirmjäger you have access to FG42 and yes we have FG42.
What's special about Post Scriptum is the crazy amount love to historical accuracy, special to weapons present with that infantry division, and every single uniform of every single Platoon in every single maps.
US soldiers in GRAVE are visually different in UTAH, because they're both different infantry division.
In comparison to HLL, you have world war 2 looking soldier on a Ww2 map. Really kills the immersion for a history buff seeing all shit of shinanigans and inappropriate cosmetics in the map, like single tone trench coats of german in Carentan?
During 1944 german uniforms are already taking advantage of camo pattern uniforms which is present in 1944 maps in Post Scriptum.
You will love Forgotten Hope 2. It's a Battlefield 2 mod, so it's a bit older, but it's the most historically accurate WW2 game I've ever played. Most maps are recreated like they originally looked like, the factions only have guns that were actually used during the time the map is set in and there are different units and uniforms on each map.
Man i just love it to go on empty server and check out the map fully and near special objects
Does fg42 have scope?
They both suck in their own ways.
Thats awesome
So far I think this guy does some of the best comparison videos I've seen.
why don't both the HLL and PS devs unite and create the definitive ww2 experience? I mean, they're both small indie devs so why not create a big one?
Because competition is good for consumers. If they were to go together we will only have 1 option at that point and cant choose to play the other game if the only one goes to shit
@@ArziEeee if there was ever a price for the question, you definitely won it.
Plus, it's good to have a variety. Some want PS others want HLL.
@@thefiringsquadtfs6392 Exactly this, I'm a huge PS guy but I get that people coming from BF 2042 or even COD are never going to "enjoy" PS the same way they will HLL and that is fine
I have played mostly PS, i have tried HLL aswell, but the game just feels too clunky still for me, so im staying away from that one still :P
I think that HLL have grown as much as it have, because a lot of bigger youtubers have gotten their hands dirty in it, therefor its been given a lot more media attention than PS has sadly.
It would be amazing to see both games grow at the same rate, and get some more people playing them, as they are both great games, for what they are! :D
post scriptum is free on epic so preferably that one :)
@@joekerr4273 is it free to keep
its not free thats just the SDK@@joekerr4273
@@Emyyaj yea ik i made the mistake of download and installing a 151-gigabyte unreal engine 4 modding kit rip my internet
@@Emyyaj yea sorry dude thought it was free its just a modding kik
Lot of people are wrong about strict communication requirement in Post Scriptum. If you don't take any important class and completly ignore squad leader you can do pretty much what you want.
In the end communication with your squad is big part of the game, you will be only losing on fun.
Fair enough and similar to squad. If youre a HAT/grenadier, expect getting kicked if you roam around solo without orders. But if youre a sniper/rifleman, the whole map is yours.
Thanks for the great review. I was on the fence between HLL and PS, but you made a strong point that helped me decide. It's about individual playstyle and knowing what kind of gamer you are. Cheers!
Wich game you choose and why? :)
Ah yes, been waiting for this one
Great video, thanks for sharing!!....
nice review!
When Hell Let Loose is fully released and out of EA you should do another comparison as well.
As a solo player of squad, post scripum, beyond the wire and hell let loose, also a long time pr2 player, in hell let loose i really find myself comfortable as i don't need to vc as much and while i understand some people may be bothered by that, after uni or work sometimes i just wanna relax and not sweat talk to my team obout where the enemy is, that's my experience with hell let loose and yea, i enyoy it a lot.
I grew up on ARMA, Played Insurgency since it was HL mod and then played huge amount of red orchestra 2 and rising storm 2 vietnam. So with this background. What should I played Squad? post scriptum or hell let loose if I had to pick one.
great video. i have PS and exactly as you said, it super hardcore shooter. I bought it because i heard its better then HLL, but you know, im a casual player now so HLL is more accesible for me as im getting older haha....
HLL Carentan trailer video did A LOT to bring in new players. It made me buy it
okey, so im a lil confused becouse im not really a headset player becouse i like being left without anybody talking to me, i heard that talking to ur teammates in HLL is very important. But i heard nothing about PS, do u really HAVE to talk or can u play without a headset too??
hell let lose reminded me of red orchestra 1 , then i learned that it is based on darkest hour mod , which was my favorite mod in red orchestra back in the days ,lol.
great job xd
I own both games and I like both equally and I think that both communities should really own both games(as long as they can afford it with no hinderance to thier livelihood)
I have more hours in hll so I will start with hll pros:
-more players
-more dynamic maps(you may play on the same map but the main battle is happening in a different part of the map)
-larger servers (100 players with a 50v50 beeing most common)
-better, more immersive vehicle DRIVING system
-better interiors in buildings
Hll neutral points(ones that are cool for some while beeing cons for others)
-less realistic balistics(still immersive just not as punishing)
-most weapons kill with one shot no matter the range
-more weapon selection(noone is the section has to play a bolt action even on the german side)
-Smaller sections 6 in HLL 9 in PS.
HLL cons
-worse optimization with bigger fps drops(the reason I bought PS is because HLL became unplayable for me for a while after one update, and to this day it runs consistently worse than PS)
-squad locking is more common(while possible in both games it happens in every game in HLL and is flat out banned on most PS servers)
Now for PS pros:
-better optimised(runs in constant 60 as opposed to unstable 30-60 in HLL)
-better, more immersive vehicle COMBAT (HLL has better driving but overall PS has better combat)
-more vehicle models and types
-more weapon models and types
-better terrain interaction(you can hide in bushes and hedges while in HLL they are hard obstacles even for tanks)
-arguably more immersive
PS neutral points:
-more realistic balistic system
-damage drops over range (bolt action rifles and lmg's are still a oneshot up to 500m and you won't fight over longer distances often)
-more spacious interiors(at the cost of beeing basicly bland same old buildings)
-sometimes you are forced to play a simple rifleman because this is what a given nation had in that area during that battle(there is a german division that only has kar98's and one mg34 kit per section and thats it so its crucial they work together or they will get curbstomped by american garands)
PS cons:
-smaller 80 capped servers
-way smaller playerbase with many populated servers beeing non english(at the time of writing this 2 german only and 2 french only servers out of about 8 populated ones)
-same maps often offer similar expirience
-smaller server caps and bigger squad sizes offer less tactical options (often you have to either play half sized squads or split a squad in 2 to effectively contribute)
Overall I switch between games to expirience different maps or when PS gets very low population during workdays. I recommend buying both games and support both dev teams as they have created great games. If its your 1st sim gamebI would recommend HLL more but if you want those band of brother moments definetly go for PS. I feel like when HLL drops its eastern front update it will get a ckear upper hand and PS will have to respond with something equally grand to keep up. I would hate for either game to fall so I hope PS devs have something up thier sleeve. One thing both games have over any other wargame is that communities are almost free of toxic players. We come to change the tide of the biggest conflict in the history of warfare and we show that its possible to be civil about it. I would rate both games around 7-8/10 because both have some way to go but they are heaps of fun as they are.
Hopefully this will help someone in choosing the right game for them.
Great summary I appreciate it. Looking to enter either game after I started migrating from BF 4+1 to BF 4+1 (hardcore servers) to Insurgency Sandstorm now to hopefully HLL/PS (likely, as you said, HLL first). Seeking that hardcore vibe :)
If this comment section is anything to learn about these games‘ communities from - I’m lucky either way. All I read is comments (like yours) from players taking their time to write detailed, neutral, but loving perspectives on the games.
Looking forward!
Cooler Name übrigens ;)
Much have chanceg in Post Scriptum, New Maps wich are more detailed and outstanding, Servercap is now 98 players. and a much better graphics.
@@maxschuster1209 will definitely check out, I gravitated to tarkov since I wrote the og comment because I apperently hate myself.
Now that you have reminded me about this tho, I might edit the comment because I also played a bunch of squad since and it has a lot of stomping advantages over both games, being the oldest.
Yeah i've been playing more HLL than PS but i thought I noticed people weren't talking as much recently. I guess I'll swap back to PS and see how it is.
Is it dead right now ? I want to buy HLL or PS
But i want one that have more player
@@avay8726 PS pretty much is compared to HLL. I'm also in Australia so games die here much faster than the states. So it depends on your region. So if you're in the states you'll probably have a better go.
Just buy them and check out the servers yourself. Then return them if no one is playing during peak times.
@@avay8726 ps is way better. Trust me
@Fossheimen 2 To be honest some people just talk too much
@@avay8726 i play squad and like that sort of team gameplay. If ill be honest, I did not find that in HLL
HLL strikes the perfect balance between full tactical realism and Arcady fun that you would see in a typical shooter. It is also a lot easier on new players, which may be a contribution to the higher player count. To put it bluntly, PS is fun for those who want to play an almost 100% authentic ww2 shooter. (I also like it’s maps a little more) but HLL is for those who just want to buy and play and have fun in a realistic ww2 shooter with more Arcady elements. HLL is also giving more consistent updates and has a steadier player count. So if it’s your first time playing a Tactical FPS, then get HLL. If you have some experience in Arma, squad, or any other tactical shooter, and want something like that but In a ww2 setting, get post. I enjoy both games, but HLL is more addicting for me and the updates are one of the biggest reasons I keep playing. Both are amazing and deserve support though, so don’t bash one just because it’s not your main game. Be safe y’all!
I'm sorry I see this get thrown around a lot.. they're end goal is a tactical milsim, it's arcadey right now because it's Early Access and in testing. People keep throwing it out there from their own experience when really it won't always be an arcadey/milsim. It will be a full on milsim once it's complete.
@@ichemosabe yeah. When it’s fully released. Which could be years from now. So I gave the info on what it’s like now and what it will be like for the foreseeable future.
@@ichemosabe You cant say that since devs have switched their minds so many times after kickstarted campaign already.
What about the gore? Like blood spatter from a headshot and bodies not despawning? Which is more accurate for that?
in HLL people can explode totally. The blood remains on the ground once again (they removed it 'cause some bugs), but there are no bullet holes yet (they will add later). You can select body despawning, but it can cause fps drops.
Is it too much to ask for campaigns from either of these two games. Imagine a reimagining of cod2 or world at war in post script or he’ll loose
Also, I keep hearing people say the visual flags/markers Officers can drop are appealing to more casual/BF-style players... SQUAD has the SAME on-screen UI marker system and all the clans I’ve played along side use them and no one is saying the same thing about Squad...........
It's not an issue for Squad since it's appropriate for modern warfare. For a ww2 game, for me it's a no, I did my best to train myself for callouts in Post Scriptum with the help of pro players since most people I play with are Ex Military.
Like using compass and saying the bearing where you found the enemy etc or using Map coordinates. It's more fun than lazy ping.
xCAS9 I don’t understand why a modern combat game is OK to have colorful floating markers appear anywhere on the screen and not a WW2. Its inrealistic in HLL and Squad.
And no ones using the ping in HLL anyway...
@@jimslim2831 on a second thought, yeah, it doesn't make sense.
HLL makes it easier to set up spawns for your squad or for your entire team, and limits the amount of time spent ferrying supplies. A Squad Lead can make a squad only spawn anywhere he wants and no one has to be nearby, and only has to wait on a 2 min cooldown. This significantly cuts down the amount of time spent walking to fights, as you can leapfrog spawns as your team moves towards an objective. Making a spawn for your entire team is also much easier, as the "Support" class spawns with the 50 supplies needed to create one, so it requires minimal coordination to get them to place it down. If you can't find a support class, the commander can also airdrop 100 supplies anywhere on the map, instead of driving a supply car 5 min each way.
i used to want post scriptum...... but thanks to the updates for HLL, i think i'll go with that instead. also, the basic pings are HUGE for a guy like me, no mic.
PS is a much better game in practically every way but sadly there aren't many players anymore.
@@kalechips965 there is players just dont play the game intensive just like hll
@@kalechips965 sadly? Thats not sadly, i thinck its just a fact. PS is dying, HLL its just born with the update7, before of it was a prealpha. Theres no battle, HLL all the way...
...And update8 incoming: new maps mode, bullet environment perforation, transport vehicle, engineer role buffed... Cant wait, and if someone still prefer PS...well, its just your problem! See u in battlefield...The right one ;)
@@illebovski9768 nah it's not dying it's been holding a consistent player count. They are both great games that offer different experiences. Glad to see HLL being supported and doing well.
@@kalechips965 there is same amount of PS players as after it launched first months. And many players who played with me past are taking small break and waiting SDK and sovs coming out.
Okay, I understand, this is interesting.
So far what you said (and what I have seen from others as well) is that Hell let loose is closer to game like Battlefield whereas Post Scriptum is closer to Red Orchestra. Well, I like both series, so I will give each one a go (though I must say that I like more the gritty and dark colors of Hell let loose though).
That is kinda true, but HLL is in confusing place right now. They want somtimes introduce real mechanics but next time they go for casual mechanics. They dont know where to really go
I don’t agree. HLL is very near to simulator game. This game isn’t casual. It’s hard and realistic as it gets. Just turn everything off HUD options in the settings. It will be more difficult to see who the enemy is from long distance.
That M1 Carbine rear sight post though. It's so thick that it makes it hard to track targets.
Wtf... that's the front sight, man. Sounds like it might be more than the sight graphics that affects your aim XD
@@christianh4723 Rear sight post is a peephole. It makes tracking more difficult than if it were open, as is the case with the K98, for example.
Edit: But you're right, my aim's laughable.
@@Terrr05 My point was that the rear sight is not called a "post," just a rear peep sight as you said. The "post" in the phrase "sight post" refers to the shape of the sight itself, a vertical rod shape... which is used in front sights only.
Useful (kind of) picture of different sight types and their shape descriptions: www.deviantart.com/thefrozenwaffle/art/Iron-Sights-Illustration-674705527
@@christianh4723 What a fool I've made of myself. Thanks, bro.
@@Terrr05 Don't worry about it... I can see what you were getting at in your initial comment.
I want to switch from Rising Storm RO because it's too blurry. which would you recommend ?
Is post scriptum made by the same ppl as squad cos the but where ppl speak on the bottom left look exactly the same
It’s not the same developer but it’s the same publisher :)
Thanks for this video and the others on both games, it helped me decide which one to get first (HLL, though I plan to play PS later too).
Damn, i was waiting for this in U8 of HLL, but seeing Ps is not getting any major update soon i think is fair
there is leak that they are planning the eastern front
@@sergeantwolf8018 no its a mod being created
@@sergeantwolf8018 Now they showed chapter 4 is in work in progress and there will be snow, so either eastern front or battle of the bulge
@@NlGHTSKY it’s battle of the bulge. There is already modding support for eastern front. Since the SDK came out the Modding support for PS is insane. They have mods coming for North Africa, The Mediterranean like Italy and Greece, Eastern front, the pacific theatre, and new D day maps. I’m so hyped for it.
@@marcbeecher7328 Damn that's cool, the battle of the bulge is what i exept the most consideering i lived in bastogne
"coexist with regular community" - Exactly. The casuals get intimidated with some (not all) of the vet players (strict or perhaps toxic) in post scriptum esp. if they are too dependent or prefer live/actual communication (couldn't blame them). Also people who knows/speaks/understands ENGLISH but not their native english accent (like me) hesitate to communicate openly =) so they prefer Sims like Hell Let Loose whose a bit considerate with comms. So yeah a great idea to add new spotting mechanics like markers, pings etc.
This. Sometimes you just don't feel like communicating. Sometimes you just want to hop on a server and have a little fun without much talking (especially in a foreign language).
I have really been looking for an authentic experience of ww2 but I cant really decide probably just gonna get both this black friday.
Do one for after HLL update 8
3:00 ... *_let's talk about FT coordination._* What I notice as key indicator? perimeters. (And so protecting flanks, of course.)
If I'm running into one tango after another while advancing towards the position we're supposedly defending, I know I'm in an FPS scenario!
*--Dawks **_[PIR]_*
+5! cheers
Is post Scriptum good with people actually talking like Squad or does no one talk
the best;D
Which game is better coming from RO2?
Probably ps
Can you run and gun in PS?
If HLL had PS sound, weapon, and tank features it would be amazing
I played both HLL and PS on free Weekend respectfully, and I had to say that I had more fun on HLL were the frontlines weren’t across a huge ass map. However the sound in HLL was horrible! (Nice to know the whole thing was reworked) PS felt more realistic with its tactics but the game reminded me of squad. I also did notice HLL had more NA/populated servers than PS
it was reworked, but sound is now even worse. Strange noises with guns and directional audio wont even work. PS way more fun for teamplayer oriented player who dont shy on communicating skills
Hell let loose is expanding and making soviet troops for their game so ima stick with that. And besides post scriptum (imo) is less "new player friendly".
I would assume Post Scriptum is better than Hell Let Loose in most ways, but Hell Let Loose is getting a lot more long term content support, and a lot more players.
Maybe if there are more mods for Post Scriptum, I'd pick it up, if I'm not fully satisfied with Hell Let Loose.
PS mods will be amazing , like África front
@@Alvaro-ep2de I'm really watching Chapter Red. I want it to succeed, but it needs lots of content and lots of players. Maybe in 5 years I'll buy it when the game builds a stable community.
The thing about Squad is it integrates arcade FPS players very well. You get in, mics kinda required, and players naturally feel the need to speak up and communicate, by 20-30 hours in your already a functioning member of a squad. Post Scriptum struggles to do this, and I think it's cause of the player count. Hopefully when they polish the game more people will pick it up.
Now HLL, man the community does not make things easy. People don't communicate and games become very casual, people do whatever they want and it's like a team death match. The devs are kind of moving in that direction cause it sells copies. I think Squad is better than both games by a substantial margin, and I think their take on a realistic tactical shooter should be emulated. What it comes down to for me is in PS I can feel like a member of a squad that working together and actually completing objectives like soldiers. I've seen videos of Tiger crews and Sherman crews talking like they are in a simulation, mechanized Panzergrens rolling up to an objective and taking it, that kind of gameplay is cool.
In HLL I'm just shooting people in a WWII game.
I was debating on getting Squad over both these titles because of that specific reason. But it just looks a bit outdated.
@@frostedpearl1386 Squad is a much better game with a much better community than HLL. Post Scriptum is a dead game, but ran on the Squad engine.
@@frostedpearl1386 get squad, what are you doing if you even have to debate that? Jeez
For people hesitating between the two, Hell Let Loose is the fun version of Post Scriptum and it's even more realistic in some aspects. In HLL you don't have to drink water every two seconds while under heavy machine gun fire and your guy actually went through training so he can actually reload his gun like a person who wants to survive. HLL actually aknowleges the need to be fun and it reflects in the game.
Comon dont even believe that yourself. Game that you can run mile with no sweat affecting weapon sway, bullets that leave from your eyes instead of where your gun barrel is, community which seems almost half dont care about communication, tanks that have solo users in it, blue enemy icons all over hud so you trigger happy boy wont shoot your own members, medics that are hardly needed since everyone runs and dies and repeats, sound design which is horrible, only 2 factions, only about 10 vehicles list goes on if you check official forums now on daily basis. PS aint perfect but with that community, it actually delivers for what it is. Unless you are solo player looking at own stats
@@AndyP998 Sure, you can't run a mile without sweating, but you can't run with a goddamn anti-tank rifle to use it as a freaking sniper rifle either which PS allows. Also, when you play a shooter, why would you need like 1 minute to spawn that makes zero sense. Coming back to life isn't realistic in the first place, so why the hell would you have to wait to do it? As for the bullets coming through your eyes and not enough factions, the game is not finished and the devs said they will add realistic bullets and more content for game. So yeah, I prefer my fighting games to be about intense firefights and tense flanking. I don't have to train for a year, get on a boat, drive from Normandy to the Netherlands to get my engagement in a Dutch map, that boring stuff is off screen.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me You are just extending it, run & gun junkies which are used to arcade games, should stay in arcade games without trying to come with those mechanics on game which was never build areound it. Boring boring boring, yes game is not for you, thats it.
@@AndyP998 I like RS2, Escape From Tarkov and HLL. Escape From Tarkov is the slowest game ever, but the stakes are so high it makes it fun. In both these games, your soldier has actually trained for combat so he can reload his gun and can crouch faster than an old man in his 70's.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me Yes and thats why people make no comparisons to Tarkov, its unique game in its own and i like it too. But you dont bring Tarkov mechanics into game that wasnt originally meant for that. HLL if you followed since kickstarter and 4 of my friends were in it, started as something totally different and now crowds that have flocked in, try hard to change it to yet another arcade game that they previously played.
You know those people with words like: boring, too slow, respawn too slow, no stamina, unlockables, no need for mic, i want solo tank, i want see my kd, why cant i spawn with any weapon, not too many snipers, why i cant see who killed me. Yes that crowd.
Which one is best on console tho?
PS is not on console lol
Anyone tell me which would run better on a low-mid pc (1050ti) thanks
none... well, maybe PS. HLL is very hardware demanding, but a 1050ti is pretty weak for them sadly... I had a 1050ti and they ran like shit on it.
@@mikeliberty9408 ya il wait till the optimization patch drops at least thanks
Hell let loose has icons over friendly players. Immersion killer.
Very much indeed. Would be closer to bearable if icons would show up only if you looking their direction directly and they are in your sight and not behind walls or something. Makes this game cater to more trigger happy people and yes breaks immersion
(Turn them off)
@@NakedAnt So if there would be game in future were aimbot is build into game, solution is to be in disadvantage and turn it off. You never get it
@@AndyP998 Be still, thy jerking knee -My comment specifically addresses the OP claim that the markers are an 'Immersion killer.'
I like more the post scriptum but that’s just my opinion
Post scripum has a much superior sound design and gun mechanics imo. In hell let loose the recoil looks so weird to me
feel the same,but sadly its loosing the battle againts hell let loose.Hll feels clunky to me in comparison,the sound in it is also shit,REALL REALLY shit.directional audio was all over when i played it,and half of the guns felt eeh dull/empty sounding.So do the tanks.Boy do they sound terrible.weapon handling is terrible as well,with the movement.Im not saying Ps is the best ww2 game out there,but its far better then Hll,since it feels more fluid in everything tbh,and has plenty more content,but i agree not everything is perfect on that aspect..
I'm torn out of which game to get, I get the differences but I still dont have a clue. Both are somewhat cheap so I can afford either just want to make the right choice.
I bought beyond the wire and man I was disappoint.. hardly any players and only one half full server but I liked the style and how it felt.
Why is post scriptum better ?
And is it actually popular with at least half full servers ?
@@manager6711 yes post scriptum tennds to have a lot of full servers last I checked, at least 8-9 would be full. If you liked beyond the wire, I think post is the way to go. I personally enjoy PS for the teamwork aspect and immersion and better effects, sound design.
@@colinclark1981 I feel like HLL is more like bf, and I really wanna get away from arcade shooters. At least I can always refund if I dont like it, that's the great thing about steam 👍🏻
You know. I know a lot of people say that PS has more communication. In my experiences with HLL its if you get the right squad or not. Some squads are really talkative vs others are not. Most of the time I have a talkative squad though. PS I can bearly find a squad who talks
Totally opposite. In PS servers there are more strict rules and SLs atleast have to got mics. Sometimes you see few but mostly they are promoted after old SL has left and will pass it along if notified. My friends who played HLL since alpha cause of kickstarters have left HLL cause of community. Too casual and communication shy and only want to play it like some Battlefield game
@@AndyP998 Well, it also depends on the server. The official servers have a lot of low leveled players who more often don't use their mics. However, community servers lead by clans have a lot more experienced players who talk.
@@thedogtobs9469 I know, i never play in official servers and non-official servers have this problem i just said and alot. Not enough moderators to enforce rule and cant like in other games name your squad that would say MIC for only people who would talk. Numerous threads about this in HLL forums people have same issue why noone talks. Played since start and last 6-9 months this has gone way worse. New players wont be using mics if they are not atleast halfway forced and with games die/respawn mechanics which dont promote much using medics is yet another issue. Forced engagements based on map makes this more like instant action game with not much team tactics except drop rally point and run to objective with no weapon sway. Point and click
I own Hell let loose, however I wish I purchased Post Scriptum instead. I understand that the issues Hell let loose suffer from are due to it being an early access title. And I understand the Devs wanting to add new content, but GOOD GOD. Shouldnt their priority be optimizing the game AND THEN adding new content? What is already there is SO hard to enjoy because of the ridiculous frame drops. In my opinion. Hell let loose has potential, but dont buy it now. Wait another year. The game is painful to play and the consistent poor performance leaves one feeling stressed out.
Works fine on 1660ti and i5 10400f 60fps max settings 1080p only gave micro stutters at the start of the match due to it loading textures and im a new player and in 3 days got 18hrs in it cuz its really fun.
@@hamzakhalil7932 Look everyone, this guy can run the game with minimum fps, THE GAME IS FINALLY FIXED NO MORE PROBLEMS
Upgrade your trash computer first. I’ve put 100 hours into HLL and it runs completely fine.
@@thegatesofsleep I could reply appropriately to you comment, but I fail to see the point. You seem like a stupid person.
Ps is free on epic games
So HLL I feel is the better game, tactics are used heavily and squads are essential. There are recon units for lonewolfes and so HLL is very team based. Large scales battle where you move from different positions and full scale retreats are done precisely. It’s just a great game.
Wish the squad cap was a bit higher for infantry
Forget comparing HLL to Post Scriptum. Compare HLL to HLL kickstarter and what it should have been.
Have both and its HLL for me.
I just recently got into HLL would you say getting Post Scriptum is worth it if I am enjoying HLL + a new player?
@@MercadoGaming Post Scriptum is a lot harder, less action, more content(for now), guns are harder to aim and have more recoil, small but strong player base, better optimization, and its harder for newer players to jump right into it.
I have both games, what PS does better is gunplay and sound. HLL has a better environment, gameplay can be a bit more friendly. If HLL improves the gunplay it will be the best for sure.
In Post Scriptum, many weapons have dirt, sand and mud on critical places, like on the bolt and other moving parts. Just look at the Mauser Kar98 for example. It would not work in real life it the dirt was there. If sand or mud gets to the bolt, it will get stuck.
both are fun, PS is far superior though and has less children playing it.. once the SDK drops we will get custom maps/games and there is already an africa/eastern front in development... patience is key though :D
Yeah, but in PS sometimes i get stumbled some "elitists" who take the game too seriously. One mistake they dont like they just kick you without a warning however they are just a minority.
@@spartan5637 yeah I know what you mean ppl can be dicks but it is not the majority - generally if you are playing on a clans server and they are active/squad leading they want to build the player base and keep you coming back so ask for help if you have questions
@@Capt.Schlieffen I don't play that much. I was unlucky to stumbled from that type of asshole. Hopefully in the future, the player base will grow especially in the AUS/NZ region.
@@spartan5637 play on servers where they cant kick you without a good reason
Just spawn in by yourself without a squad. You can still follow a squad and they cant kick you
Current player numbers at 9pm NZST. PS 347 vs HLL 3270.
Is PS dying? I love realism in shooters and PS is the one im really interested in but if its a game with no full lobbies id be just wasting my money, espescially i live in asia i cant just jump into Western servers if i dotn wanna have 200 to 300 ping, are there a constantly active server in australia? If not i guess id just be pickinh up HLL
@@capnmoby9295 Yeah PS has always been dead. The only thing dragging the game along are the free weekends every once in a while.
@@Anonymous-mm1sz i cant decide what to buy i need help lmfao
Battlefield got more players than them all compered together so is it beter
@@petergriffinreal4068 thats not really the point is it? Starbucks may have a fuck ton of joints and costumers than most coffee shops but that doesnt exactly mean they have the best coffee now do they?
Comparisons start here: 1:40
I have yet to try PS, But after 90+hrs into HLL. I play HLL for the atmosphere they create, its like nothing iv ever played. Its only going to get better as well, its not even version 1.0 yet.. by then they will have transport vehicles, the ability to lite people on fire, melee system.. the eastern-front.. the game has so much potential. Its a hurry up and waiting game.
Then you should try PS. Lot more team oriented game in all servers. Many factions vs HLL which has only 2. HLL has maybe 10 vehicles, PS has 35+
@@AndyP998
Literally almost every single match I’ve played in HLL has been full of team players that plan, take orders from higher command and play their class and objective. Get out of here with that shit, biased fan boy.
@@thegatesofsleep Go growup child, just what you wrote confirmed your age. You comparing some clan server to public and unofficial servers which make maybe 10% of total servers on list. Full of team players, go check official forums, almost daily threads about non communicating squads or SLs who run with no mic. Its good game for impatient softer adhd crowd but nowhere near what kickstarter promised. And talk about arcade shooting mechanics too... HLL 350+ hrs PS 500 hrs, if you cant match close even numbers dont make comments you know anything about
@@thegatesofsleep My experience mirrors Apollo. Join server and then have to do Squad hopping before find squad that atleast half have microphones, sometimes even change server. Daytime there is almost zero chance to find one, evening normally after few changes. Game seems good but with this going on, i dont know. I have only tried PS in free weekend and its slower paced definately but maybe going to switch. Shooting and actual firefights seem way more realistic
@@AndyP998
I’ve been gaming non stop since 1996 so I’m not sure who you’re trying to call a kid. I play any server I see that has 30+ players. Almost every single time I’ve played, People are on the mics non stop and almost always team playing the objectives. I don’t care what experience you’re having. The rest of us are doing fine. You sound salty as fuck because you like PS more, but it’s less successful and that bothers you. You remind me of the goofs in failing stock market forums trying to pump up their own interests because they’re drowning in their portfolio lol.
I have to wait for a free Weekend to play and try
Could you advise on how much would i have to spend on a PC to play these games?
I believe it’s 30 dollars for both.
He probably meant the PC when he said PC.
Yep. I’d like to know how much I’d have spend on a pc that could run this game. The Xbox series x is like $800. I have a 4K monitor so just need the PC and peripherals.
Taylor_ B the computer I have is 900$ and runs 90-120 FPS on average. I’ve had buddies be able to run the game with 60-80 FPS with 500$ computers. I’d go for around a 800-1000$ rig if you want to play the game to its best ability.
WhisperSickly WOW! I’d assumed I’d be expecting to pay around $3000.
i actually think hll class system and character customization is actually more realistic than p.s the germans issued so many diffrent style uniforms and weapons not everyone had the same uniform look in a unit especially towards then end of the war
Yeah wearing white winter helmet on summer map is very realistic also historicaly accurate
@@satriadewazuda2949 you would be surprised you think every soldier had time to re paint his helmet especially when the germans barley had enough paint for their vehicles
@@satriadewazuda2949 you should look at pictures of german soldiers surrendering towards the end of the war they do not look uniform one bit its a hodge posh of weapons and uniforms and vehicles they used what ever they could get
BulletSalad392 lol us d day with winter uniform, very realistic
@@wi_x0 well thats different iam saying not every soldier had on camo and not every one had the field gray some painted their helmets some didnt some units all had stg44s some didnt some units had the best some where scraping the bottom of the barrel the point iam making is the germans made so many variations and styles of their uniforms and equipment plus what they used from conqured and allied nations like the ss units that faught in italy used italian camouflage in normandy they had taken same with the paratroopers
I've played both, especially PS for hundreds of hours, and they really are two very different games. HLL is really like Battlefield of steroids, and FPS with a splash of milsim. PS is WWII milsim to the core. HLL is going to have a larger player base because it is more accessible and casual, but I enjoy PS much more from gameplay and immersion perspective. Nothing has ever made me actually feel like I'm in WWII as much as PS.
Hell let loose, Everyday, Any day...
Nah
Guys hell let loose has a problem that I have had and a lot of people have had the problem is that you can find servers even though there are lots of full ones for some people it’s fine but for overs the game is not playable that’s why I am thinking of getting post scriptum
HLL = 30fps slideshow running simulator without even basic transport vehicles
PS = 100+fps smooth gameplay with many vehicles
You’re mad no one plays PS. BTW I own both.
hll will add vehicles c:
@@SanctuaryGhost I have no trouble playing pubs or joining some of the realism events put on by some of the groups that happens weekly weekly so I don't understand your comment
there are 5 NA servers full in PS right now, plenty to play on
@@alvaromachadomedina2408 To get stucked everywhere in small maps? NICE!
You say that the ping system in hell let loose causes less communication. Completely disagree with you on that one.
It's a 3 second ping that doesn't show to the whole team, and has no explanation beyond look here.
I love that ping system and I think squad and PS could benefit immensely from it.
So people communicate even less in those games. Great idea
There has been one in PS for a long time(least a year). Its reserved for squad leaders only. It can only be observed at max 300m I think and fades after 10 seconds ish. But will be marked on map for longer. You not noticing it is probably due to pub squad leads not utulizing/knowing about it. It's used a lot in competitive matches
Does Billy YEET Worlds? Or does Billy EAT Worlds?
If you can read it will tell you
Play process for post scriptum; load game, see all local servers are full, close game and play something else :( shame really but there never were enough players to full the best servers)
Pretty much bs. HLL yes has about 4x times more players in these days but lot of them are in public servers which every even moderately serious player avoids. Then there are community servers which atleast 50% are not moderated much, you still get SLs with no mic or who dont even lead, squads that dont work with eachother and this crap. That dont leave much servers. And PS server list is just fine, there are multiples were i play.
Beyond the wire vs post scriptum vs enlisted vs hell let loose vs Verdun
Literally had a hard time choosing both games as seen on youtube. But im glad i choose Post Scriptum. Post scriptum for me had the best sound designs. Especially the m1 rifle.
The most inaccurate part of this entire video is him reloading every time he’s finished shooting
Hell Let Loose is still early access and isn't even fully launched yet, making it have way more potential.
Nah fortnite is steel in early acses and got more to come
My biggest problem with PS/Squad is that maps are empty and lifeless. You play a hide and seek game with the enemy. It doesn't feel like a war, except for the occasional tank or artillery. If PS/Squad could put 300 players in the same map it would be a completely different story.
You know that real war isnt shooting 24/7. you have to make a plan. Attack and defend. Hll is much more shit in my opinion. Ps is way more real than hll for a game to be.
*doesn't feel like war* Go play battlefield
Watching this, i hate the player icon markers on Hell Let Loose..I think i will buy PS after watching this and give that a go!
U can turn them off
@@toejoelovessarah for real?
You can turn them off or change the distance they activate . Problem is if you turn them off you're at a disadvantage to everyone else .
Without going into gameplay I find that PS looks horrible compared to HLL. Sure the textures and (soldier/gun) models are fine and accurate and all, but I feel PS doesn't have any atmosphere to it. I feel it lacks allot of enviroment detail and variation (terrain, roads, grass, fences, walls, etc.), it doesn't feel immersive to me one bit. The world feels very empty, repetitive and blocky which is exactly the problem I have with Squad as well. It feels like playing Counterstrike 1.4 all over again, but with realism put to it... while to me HLL feels much more like a large scale battlefield to me.
i dont know about PS but the community in HLL is the best i've ever encountered
Community in PS even better, i would say if you compare whole crowds average 50-75% in PS communicates in squad and between squads all time. Since death matters more, people will call medics and ask tank support and build defences those players that like it. HLL community is ok but nowhere near that PS is.
When i play hll I only get noobs that run ewerywhere on the map and dont talk
"Small regions like -"
Me: So like Asia
"Australia"
And I took that personally
It like back in the day with day of defeat but on roids!
But, i cant afford a pc😐
Hell Let Loose for me. I love WW2 shooters, but if it's not PS, then it's Squad I'm playing. Squad is much more fun than PS. Hidden and Dangerous, Day of Defeat, MOHAA, COD1, 2, Brothers in Arms, Red Orcherstra, love it all.
Hell let loose 👑
I own both and I much prefer PS. there are some things that HLL has that I wish PS could port over
I purchased PS as was on offer, I already have HLL and love it but thought i would try PS. I was surprised by just how bad PS was (in my opinion) graphics not even in the same league as HLL and I didn't like the gameplay either.
Battlefield got the grafics of hll and the game play is nearly the same
@@petergriffinreal4068 BF5 gameplay is nothing like HLL lol.
id say ps is better graphics wise
@@SpidaMez not even close, I have had both and uninstalled PS it's graphics were shockingly shit. HLL has way better graphics in my opinion.
@@Flypidge have you played the more recent versions? The explosions are insane
Enlisted has entered the chat.
I need to play this more.
edit: PS
Press F for Traction Wars
Duuuude holy shit, I almost forgot about traction wars
@@JustSkram Called Vanguard: Normandy 1944 now. Out on early access but unfortunately no one plays.
I play a lot of fortnite so i think hll will fit me
Coming from Rising Storm 2 and Red Orchestra 2, going into Hell Let Loose was pretty easy.
Nice, how it is compared to ro2 and nam?
@@samuelkovac1008 Feels less confined and somewhat slower paced.
@@RenerDeCastro Ok thanks. Does it run well? I'm not sure if my pc would make it, i have just basic 1050.
@@samuelkovac1008 I use a 1650, and I can run it pretty well on High settings.
@@RenerDeCastro Nice so i should be good on medium/low settings i think, what ram do you have?
i'm afraid of losing post scriptum because hell let loose...
Ill probably get ps.
If you are teamoriented player who has no fear to communicate and play in team then yes PS is clearly better choice
9:27 is enough to prove which one is the clear winner :)
i like hell let loose more cause of the progression