I already have a urgi with Daniel defense barrel got it when they did the Black Friday sale been thinking of getting another one with the new geissele barrel thanks for review !
Man!!! I waited forever, clicking refresh daily, multiple times a day, as soon as I woke up. lol. I was seriously looking daily for like 6 months before I saw one come in stock. If you want a head start, sometimes Geissele customer service will pre-announce a drop beforehand on their AR15(dot-com) industry forum. On the left hand side of the site there is an industry tab and you’ll follow that to Geissele’s page. GOOD LUCK man!
Sergio, I hope I don’t come off as rude but I just don’t want to have to type up all the differences again but I did answer this in another comment below yours. It isn’t much but the URGI is for someone looking to “clone” a currently used USASOC (US Army) rifle and the Super Duty is your standard Geissele. By all means though, the SD is no standard run of the mill AR. They are superb shooters and I love both my SD and URGI. Geissele received a contract from the Army a while back to make these uppers though. Gas port enlarged, different muzzle device and slightly different handguard come on the “near clone”. The “clone correct” is much more involved.
That’s weird because I was just emailing with their customer service and this was specific to a type of metallurgy they were using called “milspec+”. They had trouble getting the mag phosphate coating to stick with it. He told me there was a period of a couple of months where all barrels going out were both “milspec+” and black oxide coated. This was a reply I received yesterday.
If you take a look at Geissele’s chart they recommend either one (H1 or H2) on a 14.5”. The chart is located on the product page of all of the Super 42 spring/buffer combos. The only caveat to that is if running suppressed they recommend an H2.
Maybe?? It would be cutting it really really close. The handguard is 13.5” and when a suppressor is mounted to the Surefire devices there is a slight overhang past the muzzle device.
@@GunBoxTherapy Just thinking because my 10.3 inch has a 9.5 inch geissele mk8 rail and the suppressor mounts. The same principles should apply, correct? Also, thank you for the help.
They're are not the same.The complete clone has a Colt keyhole upper receiver with cage code.The bcg is a Colt with mpc and cage code on the extractor claw.The gas block is a DD m12 not a bomb proof Geissele.Those are the difference between them.
I’m gonna try and keep this short but I have a feeling it won’t be. lol. A lot of people seem to say that the new URG-I is nothing different than the Super Duty upper. On the surface, this can seem true but there are minor differences that make a URG-I (clone or near-clone) stand out. First - The Barrel. Typical of the URG-I is a chrome lined and cold hammer forged barrel. It’ll be either a 10.3” or a 14.5”. Lastly, is the gas port size. The military uses what’s known as a “crane spec” or “SOPMOD” gas port in the barrel. This is a slightly larger gas port that increases reliability in adverse conditions (weather, lack of oil, dirty, suppressed). Second - The muzzle device. The flash hider you see on my near-clone is “clone correct” as in a Surefire 4-prong flash hider is used on the actual URG-I. These are very hard to come by and when you do find them, people are asking $400-$500 for them. Third - The rail. So yes, the major difference is the color but there are also 2 others differences between this and a super duty MK16. The NSN and Geissele roll stamping on the left and right side. As well as the anti-rotation tabs. I prefer the manner in which the MK16 on the Super Duty attaches to the upper but both are sufficient in doing what they are intended to do. Fifth - The Surefire golden ticket. This only applies if you buy the URG-I near clone from Geissele. You receive a 30% off coupon off of two items. A Surefire RC-2 Suppressor in Tan/FDE and a Surefire IR light or light/switch combo.
I have both and thr only difference of course with the SD upper has the tongue and groove on rail to upper to prevent twist they had on urgi uppers, but the SD is more accurate not much but is tighter on 9 different types of ammo I've used. Overall it's pretty much the same, but urgis are pretty much done with since contract is no longer. The SD uppers are gonna be going forward as they try to get in the new SOPMOD contract.
@@chaoticcaninejb I agree. Honestly I like the NSN marked URGI for collecting reason but personally I think the SD’s have a slight advantage for the reasons you stated and they seem to be gassed slightly better. Also, I absolutely love the FCG that comes with the SD. The shape of the trigger is perfect and the CTN warcomp is a better muzzle device than the 4 prong IMO.
Love Geissele stuff from triggers to charging handles but that rail was so damn heavy I’d be lying if I didn’t say it made my gun feel horrible don’t get me wrong tuff as hell but ugly and heavy I’m out!!!🤯🔫
I partially agree with you on that. While I wish they would’ve stayed with a phosphate finish over the black oxide, I’ve not noticed any problems with mine rusting or any imperfections in the finish. I take this thing to the range probably once a week and put about 300-400 rounds through it per trip. While that may be a low round count compared to some other people, I don’t suspect any problems to arise. If for some reason I start to see anything, dissemble, sand blasting and Cerakoting can all be done in a matter of 2 days or you can pay someone. I do agree with you though, Geissele should’ve went with the better finishes of the two.
@@Shoppincart they have, in fact, switched back to mag phosphate. I believe that had an issue for a period of time applying the mag phosphate in house.
I already have a urgi with Daniel defense barrel got it when they did the Black Friday sale been thinking of getting another one with the new geissele barrel thanks for review !
I just ordered one of these today. Can’t wait to get my hands on it.
I like Gs pinned Super Gas blocks, I use them on all my Franken builds, the silver version which is different than the black nitride. Thumbs UP!
I bought this upper to replace my KAC M4 upper so i could have more room. 10/10 would recommend to anyone
that is an awesome upper 👍🏼👍🏼
I recently got the 11.5 version but no coupons were included in the box.
I had it in 10.3. did they change it?
Surefire stopped offering the coupons
I love your geissele reviews
Geissele is definitely newer in the industry compared to some but they are definitely releasing quality products!
Is it just me or does anyone else like the small white print on like the mk4, mk8 rails?
That’s a beautiful upper
So what makes it near clone vs clone correct
Just found your channel and subscribed, received an email from Geissele needed my updated address. So excited
Great video. Thanks for putting together this unboxing and overview. My URG-I near clone arrives this Friday.
Im building one almost done it just dont got a welded and pinned muzzle thats why i did not get a complete upper
I’m dying for a URGI upper. I haven’t seen them in stock in a bit.
Man!!! I waited forever, clicking refresh daily, multiple times a day, as soon as I woke up. lol. I was seriously looking daily for like 6 months before I saw one come in stock.
If you want a head start, sometimes Geissele customer service will pre-announce a drop beforehand on their AR15(dot-com) industry forum. On the left hand side of the site there is an industry tab and you’ll follow that to Geissele’s page.
GOOD LUCK man!
@@GunBoxTherapy nice man, thank you!
I was doing the same thing and actually got on this morning on the new drop
@@josephstagoski2177 I got one about 2 weeks back from optics planet but the Geiselle price was better
@@alexanderschooler579 Think I paid right at $1,080 for it
is this upper reciever discontinued or just out of stock out for the moment
It is frequently out of stock. They are not discontinued.
Is there any major difference between this URGI and Geissele’s Super Duty?
Sergio, I hope I don’t come off as rude but I just don’t want to have to type up all the differences again but I did answer this in another comment below yours.
It isn’t much but the URGI is for someone looking to “clone” a currently used USASOC (US Army) rifle and the Super Duty is your standard Geissele. By all means though, the SD is no standard run of the mill AR. They are superb shooters and I love both my SD and URGI. Geissele received a contract from the Army a while back to make these uppers though. Gas port enlarged, different muzzle device and slightly different handguard come on the “near clone”. The “clone correct” is much more involved.
@@GunBoxTherapy Love the look and feel of my Super Duty, didn't know there was a difference between this URGI upper and the Super Duty.
I wonder if the coupon code is still included?
I got my URGI upper from brownell. Didnt get any stickers or any of that :(
The sf4p also comes on one of the ddm4a1 uppers
The urgi barrels were never black oxide according to geissele cs. Just the super duty barrels.
That’s weird because I was just emailing with their customer service and this was specific to a type of metallurgy they were using called “milspec+”. They had trouble getting the mag phosphate coating to stick with it. He told me there was a period of a couple of months where all barrels going out were both “milspec+” and black oxide coated.
This was a reply I received yesterday.
How does it compare shooting with your super duty?
You ordered this straight from geissele?
That looks like the midnight or burnt bronze S 13" 7075 T-6 aluminum hand guard on my 10" barrel
I have a urgi complete clone with the Colt upper reciever Colt bcg and DD gas block
I'm kinda disappointed the the DD mki2 gas block isn't pinned.
Do all the URGI 14.5 uppers come with that coupon, or was it a special deal at the time?
From what I’ve seen, it seems to have stopped in any recent shipments.
@@GunBoxTherapy thanks for the response, however that’s very unfortunate.
Damn! 30% off a surefire suppressor? That’s a good deal. Does that include the minis or does it have to be the rc 2?
Just orderd my mk16 rail :)
I’ve seen other guys get H1 with theirs. My urgi came with an H2/super 42 and a SSA-E.
If you take a look at Geissele’s chart they recommend either one (H1 or H2) on a 14.5”. The chart is located on the product page of all of the Super 42 spring/buffer combos. The only caveat to that is if running suppressed they recommend an H2.
SSA-E? Like in the box?!? That’s not normal but a nice upgrade!
@@GunBoxTherapy it was a thanksgiving or Black Friday special 2 years ago
Mine on SD and urgis have all come with H2 buffers
@@chaoticcaninejb my SD 11.5” actually came with an H3
GOOD Luck 🤞
Think I could build this with a 14.3 inch barrel and still have room to mount my suppressor?
Maybe?? It would be cutting it really really close. The handguard is 13.5” and when a suppressor is mounted to the Surefire devices there is a slight overhang past the muzzle device.
@@GunBoxTherapy Just thinking because my 10.3 inch has a 9.5 inch geissele mk8 rail and the suppressor mounts. The same principles should apply, correct?
Also, thank you for the help.
How do you redeem the code for the rc2 suppressor? Is it 30% off of the msrp?
Yes. 30% off MSRP and you have to call SureFire with the code/receipt of the URGI to claim it.
These are on optics planet but they’re calling it a Usasoc upper are they the same thing?
Yes they are the same thing. The Geissele URG-I was adopted by USASOC (US Army special operations command) for use.
They're are not the same.The complete clone has a Colt keyhole upper receiver with cage code.The bcg is a Colt with mpc and cage code on the extractor claw.The gas block is a DD m12 not a bomb proof Geissele.Those are the difference between them.
I’ve been wanting to build a URG-I clone, but I have a Super Duty upper already and wonder if it’ll be much different besides the rail color?
I’m gonna try and keep this short but I have a feeling it won’t be. lol.
A lot of people seem to say that the new URG-I is nothing different than the Super Duty upper. On the surface, this can seem true but there are minor differences that make a URG-I (clone or near-clone) stand out.
First - The Barrel. Typical of the URG-I is a chrome lined and cold hammer forged barrel. It’ll be either a 10.3” or a 14.5”. Lastly, is the gas port size. The military uses what’s known as a “crane spec” or “SOPMOD” gas port in the barrel. This is a slightly larger gas port that increases reliability in adverse conditions (weather, lack of oil, dirty, suppressed).
Second - The muzzle device. The flash hider you see on my near-clone is “clone correct” as in a Surefire 4-prong flash hider is used on the actual URG-I. These are very hard to come by and when you do find them, people are asking $400-$500 for them.
Third - The rail. So yes, the major difference is the color but there are also 2 others differences between this and a super duty MK16. The NSN and Geissele roll stamping on the left and right side. As well as the anti-rotation tabs. I prefer the manner in which the MK16 on the Super Duty attaches to the upper but both are sufficient in doing what they are intended to do.
Fifth - The Surefire golden ticket. This only applies if you buy the URG-I near clone from Geissele. You receive a 30% off coupon off of two items. A Surefire RC-2 Suppressor in Tan/FDE and a Surefire IR light or light/switch combo.
Honestly the super duty is probably a nicer shooting upper with the smaller gas port and better performing surefire muzzle device.
I have both and thr only difference of course with the SD upper has the tongue and groove on rail to upper to prevent twist they had on urgi uppers, but the SD is more accurate not much but is tighter on 9 different types of ammo I've used. Overall it's pretty much the same, but urgis are pretty much done with since contract is no longer. The SD uppers are gonna be going forward as they try to get in the new SOPMOD contract.
@@chaoticcaninejb I agree. Honestly I like the NSN marked URGI for collecting reason but personally I think the SD’s have a slight advantage for the reasons you stated and they seem to be gassed slightly better. Also, I absolutely love the FCG that comes with the SD. The shape of the trigger is perfect and the CTN warcomp is a better muzzle device than the 4 prong IMO.
@@Civiliansoldier762 👌
God I want one so bad!
Just skip to 4:10 and run it on 2x speed. You'll thank me later.
Im curious on what kinda of lower setup you will put this on?
I’ve considered filming a video on that, so I’m glad you mentioned it! I am using a “79%” lower but I did a lot of work to it.
Video incoming.
@@GunBoxTherapy look forward to it! Thanks for the content!
Love Geissele stuff from triggers to charging handles but that rail was so damn heavy I’d be lying if I didn’t say it made my gun feel horrible don’t get me wrong tuff as hell but ugly and heavy I’m out!!!🤯🔫
@@KaneGregory Damn it's that heavy?
@@MF-Rell no he just needs to go to the gym
**Braided** Buffer Spring.
It's a shame they switched to black oxide barrel coatings. Great rifle before that.
I partially agree with you on that. While I wish they would’ve stayed with a phosphate finish over the black oxide, I’ve not noticed any problems with mine rusting or any imperfections in the finish.
I take this thing to the range probably once a week and put about 300-400 rounds through it per trip. While that may be a low round count compared to some other people, I don’t suspect any problems to arise. If for some reason I start to see anything, dissemble, sand blasting and Cerakoting can all be done in a matter of 2 days or you can pay someone.
I do agree with you though, Geissele should’ve went with the better finishes of the two.
@@GunBoxTherapy but on their website they said they use Mag Phos for their barrels
@@Shoppincart they have, in fact, switched back to mag phosphate. I believe that had an issue for a period of time applying the mag phosphate in house.
Yes the BO destroys the whole gun, let's all hate G just for that.
@@GunBoxTherapy I just ordered 11/23 and the specs say mag phosphate so maybe they went back ? I have t received it yet to confirm
who gives a crap about the stickers
Me😁✋
All that god crap really makes me want to avoid their products
I’m sure Geissele will be just fine if you decide not to buy their stuff.