REAR-WHEEL DRIVE | How To: Vehicle Guide | DiRT Rally 2.0
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- The First DR2 Guide in 2020. Now transitioning to specific vehicle characteristics, beginning with the notorious RWD's, including and featuring heavily the Group B RWD. (The Porsche 911SC)
Also check out the codemasters forums, as I am regularly active there and you might catch up on some rumors for future DLC. At least the Subaru Impreza WRC from 97-99 seems more and more likely to be on the Horizon :)
Keyboard driver here: I coast into turns off the throttle and exit corners in higher gears with lower revs to reduce wheelspin. I never use the handbrake, it's way too unpredictable. If I have to use low gears, I shortshift out of them on corner exit to prevent wheelspin. Very careful taps of the gas to keep the car stable in corners with low grip. My diff setups are usually very open with lots of preload to minimize oversteer and have the car be very stable at the rear. A very stiff front swaybar and very loose rear swaybar, along with the rear spring rate always being slightly softer then the front, helps with rear end stability. For allignment it depends on the stage, Sometimes I set it up to be a little more oversteery on super technical stuff like Argentina and Greece, while I want it to be very planted and understeery on tarmac and fast gravel stuff like Poland and Spain and Finland.
I do have an achilles heel though: Mid engined rear wheel drive cars on tarmac. They have a lot of lift off oversteer and... I have a hard time preventing it on a keyboard.
You're... A God.
bruh a controller costs like 20 dollars
@@goddmode4589 Or even generic steering wheel with only two pedals and sometimes they come with sequential shifter and paddles.
Still this guy is unbelievably resourceful.
I've seen another playing on keyboard... With his hands crossed!
How much traction control do you use?
Bro I hate to be that guy but just get a controller when you can it’s so much better
Wait. People play this on key board? That’s more impressive than suing a wheel
Ikr I play on controller and even that's hard
I agree, taking a steering wheel to court seems like a difficult task
Why would you sue a wheel ???
@@Mustlehard $$$$
Idk man, suing a wheel would be quite the accomplishment to a lawyer.
I just semi figured out how to do fWD and then bought a car in RWD and it has totally fucked me up haha, I just can't handle it, but this video helps. Thank you!
same lmao. I was so confident...
dude FWD and RWD its like 2 different games lol
I'm by no means a quick keyboard RWD driver; however I've been able to complete stages with powerful RWD cars without killing myself. First, we want to be able to emulate gentle inputs with our button presses. The way to do this is by going to the settings and messing with the brake saturation/throttle saturation; the higher the saturation, the smoother the input will become. It must be said that there is a downside to this: when we want to accelerate quickly on a straight, we wont be able to floor the accelerator since the input will take longer to go to 100%; thus losing a bit of time in some sections. Personally, I have my brake saturation at 110 and throttle saturation at 116. I'm comfortable with those numbers and I found them through trial and error.
Second, racing technique. The way I go around most corners follows the basic racing principles. When approaching a corner, I brake and after a second I turn in as I'm braking (really depends on the speed I'm carrying and the radious of the corner). This transfers the weight to my front tires producing more grip. After the turn in, I release the brakes and coast through the apex. This has the added side effect to produce oversteer, since most of the load is still in the front, a bit of countersteer is necessary (depending on how hard we yeeted the car into the corner). Finally, as the car is coming out of the corner and is pointed to the road (straight), and you know, not into the trees; I press the throttle key and hopefully live to tell the tale.
I've only been racing for about 100 hours in Dirt rally 2.0 and it's really my first racing game so I'm subject to being catastrophically wrong, any corrections are greatly appreciated and big sowwy for my crappy english.
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I had been struggling with rwd literally forever, and after taking your advice I just got my first podium in rwd. Thanks so much!
Your videos have really helped me go faster and be braver in this game. I was crashing into everything when I first played it and now it gives me so much joy when the car does what I want it to do. I've applied that knowledge to the Fiat Abarth and Lancia Stratos. I absolutely love the Abarth (especially on tarmac), but still working on minimizing the sliding of the Stratos. Thank you!
ive gotten decently good with rwd but still havent fully tamed the stratos
The secret ingredient isn't crime...
but PATIENCE
Even if the car is totally straight, DO NOT SLAM THE GAS! You may not crash, but your wheels will just uncontrollably spin, causing the car to just not move since you have zero grip on the rear. Also, drive as smoothly as possible. When your in the car it may feel fast, but it probably isn't. The more control and confidence you have, the faster you will drive. Gently pull the handbrake in tight corners. Don't yank it like you do in TESCO car park. The car will just nope right into a tree or wall or dive down a cliff like it thinks it's Tom Daly. Don't make the car too sluggish either, especially in historic cars with no power steering. Your arms will tire out because you rely too much on pendulum turns to make the car turn, and a tired driver is never a good driver. GOOD LUCK, AND NEVER GIVE UP
Thank you so much, I was becoming crazy with thr rwd cars
I've never driven a RWD car thats why Im here, but from hours in driving simulations I learned exactly what you mentioned here 2:46 . great explanation
I did the sway bar setting that you’ve recommended, and it WORKED! Thank you man!!! Wunderbar!!
Off topic but hats off for the recording quality! It is the clearest nicest video I've seen of this game on RUclips.
lifesaver always avoided the stratos, now after just modifying the differential and rolls bar i finally feel like i can drive with this car
i really love the parts in your videos where you explain concepts about applying throttle and front to rear anti-roll-setups! Thank you!
Manta & mk2 are my favourite cars in dirt. They never stop swinging 😳🥰
You can also adjust toe of rear wheels to prevent from drifting
Roll bar settings saved me!
If you dont have analog triggers, set up the left analog stick for steering and the right for up=throttle left=brake to allow you to use brake and gas at the same time. Put a 15-20% deadband on the brake so you dont brake by accident. This works really well
Thanks for the guide. Playing through the Historic H2 and I really wanted to drive the Ford Escort MK II (RWD), but I was coming off of a Lancia Fulvia HF (FWD). I needed a video like this one to set my head straight.
3:36 I drive with a keyboard, and I use the enter key for throttle. I tap it when drifting, and it's very effective.
On gravel I found that setting the ride height on the rear wheels almost all the way down really helps with traction in corners. Like, ALLOT. Leave the front ride height higher.
Lancia Stratos setup : Less snappy (as seen above at 5:53), open diffs, front brake bias, HIGH brake pressure, feather on corners
All you gotta do is not be stupid an think you can floor it all the time when ur learning rwd but a lot of people think u cant floor it at all with rwd but u can if u can react quick enough an use the right amount of countersteer to stop it from spinning out.rwd is just about feeling an balancing the car and being smooth with the steering cuz any irratic steering inputs will just fuck you up an if you feel like your gonna spin out jus let off the throttle.if ur just spinning out with rwd when tryna drift ur not countersteering fast enough you've gotta move with the car an feel when the rear wheels are making u go sideways and its also really important to learn how exactly the car reacts to everything cuz if you know how its gonna react then you know what you gotta do before it happens.and a lot of people are talking about shifting early an shit on exit of corners...dont do that if ur using peddals an that u jus gotta be smooth onto the throttle an you can rev it all the way on exit an that kinda takes me back to not being irratic with shit cuz if you just stamp the throttle to the floor without being smooth you got more chance of having an unstable an shitty exit an every input causes weight transfer so if your not smooth your making all these sudden weight transfers that will just make the car come off balance.an some important advice is dont think about changing the car too much if ur fucking up think about what you might be doing wrong an improve.an if anyones doubting what im saying im in top 100 on every finish stage with escort an have gotten within top 100 a lot with the 037 (dont wanna sound cocky tho jus saying so people can take my advice serious lmao).
It worked. i adjusted my diff and anti roll and it doesn't oversteer soo much. thank you.
The problem with Group B for me has always been high speed stability. I've found that I tend to have little problem with RWD Group B vehicle, although other RWD verhicles like the GT Rally class can be a pain.
Keyboard main here. You need to set it up correctly and have quick fingers.
Steering sensitivity 100
Steering linearity 10
All deadzone set to 0
All saturation set to 100
If you want to apply partial throttle or partial braking you just need to tap the keys very quickly, the quicker you go, the lighter the input is. Shortshift on purpose if necessary and with an open diff you can avoid very precise steering inputs, the car will just do them for you by sliding. It's like playing a very complex composition on the piano.
But I've been doing it this way since NFS Underground was a new game and there's no turning back now. I can get to top 50 on the leaderboards on a good day.
The anti-roll really helped me. The car suddenly became drivable again!
One the tips I found out about rally cars KEEP YOUR REVS HIGH keep it in the perfect revpoint the car has more grip in the rear if you keep the revs high
*cries in Keyboard control*
Frustrated Rwd leyboard driver here. Manual + higher gears in corners + spam the acceleration to keep it at a reasonable speed through the exit, after that maybe downshift and accelerate when the car is stable and the wheel is str8. Also i'm playing rwd in daily/weekly/monthly challenges only, keep it safe by driving slow and i'm getting at least in top 1000(which may be bad for someone experienced, but hey...i started enjoying this game a little bit in the past few months, from dnf to finishing).
For newcomers...don't pick rwd on your first championship :D you'll forget about this game after ~2-5 stages :)) It's seriously not fun at all.
I just ordered a G920 and i'm gonna try some of your tips.
Thanks so much for the tutorial!
I used a similar roll bar setup for ruf cars in Gt games back in the day. I wanted it to lean on the outer rear tyre more predictably with a softer roll bar. I was right all along. I hope my brother reads this because he always told me I set up Porsche’s backwards. Which I did. On purpose 😇🤣
Thanks man. Your tip greatly improved my stage times. RWD vehicle driving is one of the most frustrating things in Dirt Rally 2
I struggle enough with 4-wheel drive. When I drive RWD, anything with any balls anyway, it feels like whenever I take a corner, the rear wheels turn 90 degrees to the side and suddenly accelerate to push the back of the car around the side of the front wheels.
Really helps man! Good video!🤗
Thx bro. I will practice and master the RWD cars.
This was extremely helpfull. Thanks!
BMW E30 Rally car is my favor RWD car in the Dirt Rally 2.0, very well balance and most AWD driver can get use to it in short amount of time.
I drive RWD vehicles quite well on a keyboard. I use the ENTER key for throttle and tap it, that's how I control it. Its not that hard to get used to tbh.
When I was trying to tame RWD car, I was really struggling with my rally builds based on that drive-train on other game.
I use keyboard, so the settings mentioned in the video do help me making cars more controllable, even if it just doesn't apply to Dirt Rally.
I find feathering the throttle around corners It can help you maintain grip around corners.
Actually
When it comes to drifting it depends on the surface.
It is more faster too drift on dirt in turns.
But is slower on concrete and tarmac. The downside of drifting on dirt is flipping the car. So throttle control and steering is key
You can't avoid drifting on dirt anyways, unless you drive in granny mode
@@Xerxes1337 haha very true
Kinda like most NY drivers that sit in the left lane going slower than 65 on the highway
Some nice tips for the diff. Less means less 🤔. So simple it’s true.
Increasing the rear toe in about .5 or .6 inches will help stabilize too.
Apparently rear toe angle can help you control over steer overall
I can’t drive RWD cars in dirt rally since if I try and turn or try and drift I oversteer and spin out it’s really annoying and hopefully this video will fix that problem.
Came here to learn how to drift RWD on purpose. I can tame it, can balance it, but I can't enter the drifting state on purpose. I kinda got into the habit of grip technique. Corner dc i cant do a drift purposely.
I'm going to try your set up. I usually do a more locked differential, soft springs , full firm dampening a and and firm anti roll
Thanks for the consideration of us keyboard folk :)
Very well explained, thanks :D
There are pressure sensitive keyboards out there like the Keystone or Wooting one. I mean go for a steering wheel but if you're half hardcore and want the "best" of both words, I guess
RWD feels completely undriveable to me. I don't know why, but I am just way off pace. I feel like no matter how I take corners, I either go way too slow or spin out. I'm sure I just suck, but FWD just feel so much better.
maaan, I play on pc with my ps3 controller. I'm old, lazy and I'm happy with how I drive with it.
I'd rather go sideways and go a little slower and have tons of fun, then competing against them young kids, I got no chance anyway, better have fun.
and let's be real, if you can drive the Stratos fast, you can drive any car fast. That has to be the best car, most drivers can't handle, me included.
"So! You want to know how to properly apply force to the REAR! Well, you've come to the right place. ;)" Bom chicka wah wah. So, should I be clothed while I watch this, orrrr nah?
I mean it
Rear Wheel drive on keyboard gives you karpaltunnel on the middle finger
I never understood why people say the Stratos is one of the most over steer prone cars in the game. The 911 RGT is BY FAR the most over steering. Even in the H3 class, I think the Nissan (can't remember which one it is) is more prone to over steer.
@@Pusahispidasaimensis I think of the Stratos as being like a bike: it is quite stable if you give it smooth inputs. The rear engine cars (Alpine, 911, etc) are more like small airplanes: they are constantly unsettled by small disturbances, and won't go in a straight line unless you are constantly correcting them.
Lol, the Datsun = sad time! 😄
You Are best
Great vid! Thanks.
Ofc I pick the stratos and go this shouldn’t be hard now I’m here wondering why my car won’t stop spinning like a top
The instant I touch the gas pedal the car spins. This can't even be realistic
1:20 for me, its harder to tame an R-GT than a Group B RWD. Strange...
Also you didn't go into the differences of front and rear engined RWD cars. Most likely you know but the newbies might not.
Are you from estonia?
Try driving RWD with H shift pattern + clutch as those were driven (except for the Rally GT), then try to do a hand-brake turn. Mwaaaahahahaa!
what a way to end a video
That... i had oversteer... a lot thanks am a beginner xd
who else needed subtitles for this?
I much prefer the fwd cars. Until I get to a hairpin.
I saw you had estonia flag are you estonian? If you are then tere!
Wouldn’t it be easier to get a faster time from a keyboard as opposed to having to push real pedals and crank a force feedback wheel around??? I wish the leaderboards in game displayed that info along with the race time or at least a filter so you know how your doing compared to real sim racers on a rig.
It's harder to start driving on a wheel but with practice you become faster than keyboard because your inputs are more precise and intuitive. Yes it's more tiring but it's irrelevant unless you play for hours
Rig guy here, controller is MUCH easier!
I think the bmw m1 was harder to drive than stratos 🙊
I dont know if its because I listen on my phone, but the audio mixing is not very good. I can barely hear what youre saying because the "background" audio is slightly higher than your voice. Great content though!
Try using headphones
I'm on the H2 now and I keep getting fucked up left and right LITERALLY lol
Here I'll let everyone know how to drive a RWD vehicle and get into the top 90% of every event: Turn both Stability Control and Traction Control to 3 and stop fucking around with trying to actually control these cars. You're welcome.
3:27 you messed up
If you're Estonian, wouldn't it be easier to use an English co-driver?
Bold of you to assume:
1. One only picks their flag of residence.
2. One only speaks one language.
@@skyrex2465 Oh, so you live in Germany? And sorry if that's offensive in any way.
I play dr2 on keyboard all the time...
And yes i hate if my local event include rwd...
But if i drive mistake free and avoid spinning around, i usually do well mid pack (atleast not last)...
But i cant win any event by just keyboard on rwd class...
As for awd or fwd... I usually within top5 or winning the event.. as example recently argentina fwd event...
I managed to win in fwd class: ruclips.net/video/YvQnFdoxH68/видео.html
And also recently groupB AWD i finished 3rd place: ruclips.net/video/w6eNKqrz7o0/видео.html
All of my game play were using keyboard only.. on old and slow pc (hence very low graphic setting)
*But i do occasionally play on sim rig or competition where i won Nokia Drive event almost 10years ago... And also winning subaru jamboree simulator challenge on 2019...
Also im rally driver + motorcycle racing rider in real life.. so that also probably helps alot to translate into competitive dirt game event... ✌️
i mostly drive fwd because its easier For me personaly. Because i play on controller
Are there any Group B RWD cars that aren't unlocked by DLC's?
Sadly not, if a class is DLC, it is DLC only.
@@skyrex2465 What about Rally GT and the 911?
What stage is that at 1:42 ?
The DirtFish area, found under 'Free Roam'
I can do this better in real life than on controller in this damn game... I quit out of frustration more often than not.
Do you use default FFB settings?
It's posted under community tab of the channel
hard to understand for me
is it frowned upon to simp for german lady phil?
I am the 1,000th like
Fwd cars are probably the most infuriating cars I’ve driven i havent completed 1 stage with these
I don't understand anything because I'm don't speak English
Die sind echt schwer zu fahren mit gamepad.
i am fucking garbage at this game. im good at forza, im decent at acc. but this game im fucking hot garbage. i constantly feel like im being sucked off the road. then in turns i feel like i cant steer.
Dude, stop yapping and get to the point of how to race these cars.
No one came here for the history of rally