Body conditioning and impactful striking to the body, as opposed to striking to break inanimate objects or the cranium. What's not to love about this session? It left an impression on me and I'm only watching the highlights on RUclips!
thanks ! The hollow point punch is called in Tai Chi martial art "holding a little bird in your hand", fingers relaxed like holding a fragile little bird.
@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE Correct. I think he came by it naturally. But he is VERY Wing Chun in approach. Our punches are relaxed and "condense" AFTER sensing and contact [hollow point is a good expression, in my view... they "explode" outward and through]. There IS a gap and a triggering "snap" of the fist. If hitting a "wall bag" it should "bounce". We must send "through", not "too". They are FAR more powerful and don't feed back. That said, stay relaxed, don't "push" from shoulders. Shoulders are "slings", not levers. Keep them seated. Trigger with tendons of wrists and fingers [loose for speed and accuracy] then condense upon contact. When you feel the contact, send a quick nail gun "fire" of elbow energy [most powerful when elbows are facing downward in immovable elbow position]. Then the rest of the body [if the stance is correct] can "connect". If done right, even gently, there is a spot of fear in the eyes. The energy is absorbed and they will tend to "puff" or release in a sudden exhale. I love his idea and exercise of conditioning the body to strikes. I got stuck in Chi Sao mode and people are too unbalanced once touched to "absorb" what is happening. I need to try this. I used to try many methods, pool noodles even. Never got this effective in communicating. People tend to get very scared when touched, even in heavy pads. Contact is not necessarily bad. The more "relaxed" we can be in the moment, the more fluid our response and the less energy can "feed back" into our bodies. Also, his repeated punch method subtly teaches the important of arm/elbow angle in contact. The solar plexus is probably the safest contact point in that regard of the hollow point punch. I don't like hitting the chest by the heart as a general rule. The shoulders can be ok [where he aims, not clavicles]. Palm strikes and some of these stranger techniques can actually damage organs. If you condition the hands, even finger strikes are incredibly effective. I've just tapped people and left bruises and rug burns as they hit the ground unconscious. NOT intentional, had a few incidents of surprise attacks, but I felt I barely touched them. Long story. Had a tough life like many longtime martial artists. I guess I'd argue we need to be careful. Aikido is one of the most beautiful but DAMAGING arts. Yet people incorrectly think otherwise. True practitioners respect the art and use care because the human body is frailer than we'd like to admit. Please thank the training partner [uke] as well. Respect his dedication to his Aikido brothers. Great stuff.
@@hiddenpathwingchun5045 I have a modified Wing Chun background as well as Iwama aikido, and talking to johhn I don't think he's ever done any kung fu style - def karate and boxing but most of his classes come from a POV of decades of practical experience - I always find it fascinating when this happens, a traditonal arts teachings reveal themselves to a non practitioner, through trial and error, it reinforces not only the practitioners buit the ideology and mewchanics of the pricniple involved! great comment btw TY
@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE I agree as well. Principles should trump techniques. His principles appear solid and interesting as he obviously came by them naturally. No man should fight the same; each is unique. I think as teachers we are more "archaeologists" than "creators". The goal is to dig deep, clean off, and reveal the potential of the student within. It should not be about "us". Though a Wooden Dummy [once lines are understood] can unlock so many different angles and strike. It truly is an amazing tool. Great channel. Been a fan for a long time. I always loved Aikido. It matches up well with Wing Chun entries. I'm 3rd generation closed-door Ip Man. It's frustrating to see so much lack of understanding in application of Aikido and Wing Chun & Tai Chi as well. Aikido footwork alone can destroy an opponent. Maybe 5 years ago, I was at a friend's house [Muay Thai martial artist]. This big 25 year old, maybe six five or six came in with sycophants. He was a "Gracie jujitsu blackbelt and MMA fighter" per all the "fanboys". He held court on this small back porch and started talking nonsense about other arts. He said: "Aikido doesn't work." Now, I'm primarily Wing Chun, but was taught Aikido, Bushido, Judo and other arts by my Sifu. Though I was outweighed by maybe 80 or 100 pounds and was much older I replied: "Oh, Aikido doesn't work? Is that what you say? Ok. Put your hands on my shoulders. I will NOT strike or hurt you. You have three chances to put me down." I dumped him on his head three times just by using Aikido circular footwork [and I want to train in Japan and actually be somewhat "good" in Aikido]. However, I UNDERSTAND energy and line. He was upset and claimed I "cheated". But after a time he agreed and asked questions. However, you likely know how this nonsense goes. Afterward they'll just claim you're "too fast" or "too strong" and it's not about principles and deeper elements. Sometimes the "natural" guys like your teacher [John] here are the ones who pull away the B.S. and artifice to reveal the TRUE nature of the art. As for me, I miss the bruises by a proper training session! Keep up the great work!
Love the video, it's a great concept of absorbing a punch or hit and redirecting it, you make yourself like a pillow and your reaction is to swing your arms to hit back 👍👍👍
Hi Sal - yeah, it's a cool thing to play around with, and what was interestering was seeing even thre more "petite' practioners managing to make this work for them.
If you survive the first strike without being knocked out, take the hit with gratitude and joy. If you let anger and fear jump into your mind, you’ll get an adrenaline dump which will take away peripheral vision, fine motor skills and about fifty IQ points. You’ll be stronger and not feel pain the same way, but you stand an increased chance of putting yourself or someone else either in jail or in the hospital. But if you take that hit and love it while staying fully engaged and present, you become a different animal entirely. Be grateful, be joyful, be in the moment and start working your way through the bastard singular or plural. Whistling while you work is the most intimidating mindset a fighter can have. I have been on the unhappy receiving end of such a fighter and been the one happily dishing it out. I’ve never found a more effective way to take a punch and no more intimidating mental stance to be up against.
Good class. Interesting to watch Tony. Showed he was super uncomfortable getting hit. Holding his breath a lot and therefore tense, and his rear knee/hip was often locked, so the impacts were amplified. As John said, need to try to relax. So much can be learned from observing Uke.
Unfortunately no, but if you search our channel for 'bouncer" you nshould be able to see the other videos he's done with us - i'll create a playlist too!
This is yet another "basic" that somehow should be part of ALL martial arts training, no matter the style. build confidence and also teaches a realistic approach to being hit.
Aikido is a very misunderstood martial art
I painfully agree
Thanks for your response
Body conditioning and impactful striking to the body, as opposed to striking to break inanimate objects or the cranium. What's not to love about this session?
It left an impression on me and I'm only watching the highlights on RUclips!
thanks ! The hollow point punch is called in Tai Chi martial art "holding a little bird in your hand", fingers relaxed like holding a fragile little bird.
Interesting! it exists in wing chun too, and i've seen a cupped hand slap to the solar plexus used by corrections officers
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Correct. I think he came by it naturally. But he is VERY Wing Chun in approach. Our punches are relaxed and "condense" AFTER sensing and contact [hollow point is a good expression, in my view... they "explode" outward and through]. There IS a gap and a triggering "snap" of the fist. If hitting a "wall bag" it should "bounce". We must send "through", not "too". They are FAR more powerful and don't feed back. That said, stay relaxed, don't "push" from shoulders. Shoulders are "slings", not levers. Keep them seated. Trigger with tendons of wrists and fingers [loose for speed and accuracy] then condense upon contact. When you feel the contact, send a quick nail gun "fire" of elbow energy [most powerful when elbows are facing downward in immovable elbow position]. Then the rest of the body [if the stance is correct] can "connect". If done right, even gently, there is a spot of fear in the eyes. The energy is absorbed and they will tend to "puff" or release in a sudden exhale.
I love his idea and exercise of conditioning the body to strikes. I got stuck in Chi Sao mode and people are too unbalanced once touched to "absorb" what is happening. I need to try this. I used to try many methods, pool noodles even. Never got this effective in communicating. People tend to get very scared when touched, even in heavy pads. Contact is not necessarily bad. The more "relaxed" we can be in the moment, the more fluid our response and the less energy can "feed back" into our bodies. Also, his repeated punch method subtly teaches the important of arm/elbow angle in contact.
The solar plexus is probably the safest contact point in that regard of the hollow point punch. I don't like hitting the chest by the heart as a general rule. The shoulders can be ok [where he aims, not clavicles]. Palm strikes and some of these stranger techniques can actually damage organs. If you condition the hands, even finger strikes are incredibly effective. I've just tapped people and left bruises and rug burns as they hit the ground unconscious. NOT intentional, had a few incidents of surprise attacks, but I felt I barely touched them. Long story. Had a tough life like many longtime martial artists.
I guess I'd argue we need to be careful. Aikido is one of the most beautiful but DAMAGING arts. Yet people incorrectly think otherwise. True practitioners respect the art and use care because the human body is frailer than we'd like to admit.
Please thank the training partner [uke] as well. Respect his dedication to his Aikido brothers. Great stuff.
@@hiddenpathwingchun5045 I have a modified Wing Chun background as well as Iwama aikido, and talking to johhn I don't think he's ever done any kung fu style - def karate and boxing but most of his classes come from a POV of decades of practical experience - I always find it fascinating when this happens, a traditonal arts teachings reveal themselves to a non practitioner, through trial and error, it reinforces not only the practitioners buit the ideology and mewchanics of the pricniple involved! great comment btw TY
@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE
I agree as well. Principles should trump techniques. His principles appear solid and interesting as he obviously came by them naturally. No man should fight the same; each is unique. I think as teachers we are more "archaeologists" than "creators". The goal is to dig deep, clean off, and reveal the potential of the student within. It should not be about "us". Though a Wooden Dummy [once lines are understood] can unlock so many different angles and strike. It truly is an amazing tool.
Great channel. Been a fan for a long time. I always loved Aikido. It matches up well with Wing Chun entries. I'm 3rd generation closed-door Ip Man. It's frustrating to see so much lack of understanding in application of Aikido and Wing Chun & Tai Chi as well.
Aikido footwork alone can destroy an opponent. Maybe 5 years ago, I was at a friend's house [Muay Thai martial artist]. This big 25 year old, maybe six five or six came in with sycophants. He was a "Gracie jujitsu blackbelt and MMA fighter" per all the "fanboys". He held court on this small back porch and started talking nonsense about other arts. He said: "Aikido doesn't work."
Now, I'm primarily Wing Chun, but was taught Aikido, Bushido, Judo and other arts by my Sifu. Though I was outweighed by maybe 80 or 100 pounds and was much older I replied: "Oh, Aikido doesn't work? Is that what you say? Ok. Put your hands on my shoulders. I will NOT strike or hurt you. You have three chances to put me down."
I dumped him on his head three times just by using Aikido circular footwork [and I want to train in Japan and actually be somewhat "good" in Aikido]. However, I UNDERSTAND energy and line. He was upset and claimed I "cheated". But after a time he agreed and asked questions.
However, you likely know how this nonsense goes. Afterward they'll just claim you're "too fast" or "too strong" and it's not about principles and deeper elements. Sometimes the "natural" guys like your teacher [John] here are the ones who pull away the B.S. and artifice to reveal the TRUE nature of the art. As for me, I miss the bruises by a proper training session! Keep up the great work!
Love the video, it's a great concept of absorbing a punch or hit and redirecting it, you make yourself like a pillow and your reaction is to swing your arms to hit back 👍👍👍
Hi Sal - yeah, it's a cool thing to play around with, and what was interestering was seeing even thre more "petite' practioners managing to make this work for them.
Thanks again to John Tahere for a memorable class! :)
excellent. must try that "hollowpoint' idea out
carefully... :)
If you survive the first strike without being knocked out, take the hit with gratitude and joy.
If you let anger and fear jump into your mind, you’ll get an adrenaline dump which will take away peripheral vision, fine motor skills and about fifty IQ points. You’ll be stronger and not feel pain the same way, but you stand an increased chance of putting yourself or someone else either in jail or in the hospital.
But if you take that hit and love it while staying fully engaged and present, you become a different animal entirely. Be grateful, be joyful, be in the moment and start working your way through the bastard singular or plural. Whistling while you work is the most intimidating mindset a fighter can have.
I have been on the unhappy receiving end of such a fighter and been the one happily dishing it out. I’ve never found a more effective way to take a punch and no more intimidating mental stance to be up against.
Good class. Interesting to watch Tony. Showed he was super uncomfortable getting hit. Holding his breath a lot and therefore tense, and his rear knee/hip was often locked, so the impacts were amplified. As John said, need to try to relax. So much can be learned from observing Uke.
Tony's knee was playing up a bit too i think which didnt help, and this was day four so everyohne was already tired, sore and stif :)
@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE Fair enough. ☺
John is an absolute legebnd, lovely man too - but this class left so many people COVERED in bruises hahahahaha
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Very interesting and thanks for sharing
Does he have a RUclips channel or website?
Unfortunately no, but if you search our channel for 'bouncer" you nshould be able to see the other videos he's done with us - i'll create a playlist too!
@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE it’s so interesting and amazing if you see someone putting several techniques from different martial arts together
@@knw-seeker6836 thats what we are trying to encourage here on the channel. appreciate your feedback
here's the link to his playliste ruclips.net/p/PLA520V4pOPWLQS7YzBdBBGGgNOktCeVwd
cool
This is yet another "basic" that somehow should be part of ALL martial arts training, no matter the style. build confidence and also teaches a realistic approach to being hit.