Never seen this before, intense. And hats off to you Kevin for staying in there and drawing out the points. I kept thinking on your behalf "keep back"!
I think the most practical part is using short, rapid, violent elbows. I've been skeptical of Keysi for years, but an exchange Sifu Baker had on the latest Warrior Poet episode. It looked like he rang John's bell with 2 quick elbows in the scramble of a knife defense drill and helped me see the practicality. They are definitely very different than the swimming elbows in Muay Thai and could have some real utility in the transitional areas of a fight. Someone overcommitting while trying to get into a clinch, in a scramble of any kind while the opponent is trying to maintain contact and while being pinned against the wall just like they show here just to name a few.
One of the things my Kali instructor would always say is that he's less afraid of the guy that can advertise himself as a fighter either before or during a fight and much more afraid of the guy that makes it look like he doesnt know what he's doing. I think this form of martial art lends itself well to that second kind of fighter.
This guy is intense. The way he lifted his shoulders and dipped his chin almost instantly, and the way he moves is legit. This system looks outstanding for dealing with the 80% of people that don't know how to fight. Good stuff Kevin!
“Don’t know how to fight” all these fights you see in mma don’t start that way in reality and the skillset you learn in mma is rarely efficient enough to stop someone who is absolutely driven to hurt you or worse. There’s rarely ever a fight when someone attacks you and you fight back or square off. Usually someone ends up seriously hurt or worse and it’s done and over with in seconds.
“But will it work against MMA?!?!” Says some random fat keyboard warrior. How about they shut up, train and learn all you can, cuz the very concepts of Keysi is very interesting and unique: says me.
Forgot to add that more than 80 percent aren’t mma fighters and if you do meet an mma guy, his mindset isn’t on self defense so really to meet an mma guy who’s street level crazy is legendary rare.
Everything works against folks who have no clue what they are doing. It'st the people who actually have a method and experiencing in using that method that you have to worry about.
I would also like to add that a common "thinking mistake" is that people are always thinking from a sports point of view, aiming to win from a bigger and stronger person (competition), while it would practically make more sense to know a lot of basic good techniques that just work on the streets for everybody. The streets don't have rules.. Only the law does, so be smart what to use and not to use. But this might also depend on where you live on this world.
I like the way Alan baker simplified the system to a more direct line of attack as opposed to constantly moving the arms around in a covering motion. You can tell he has study the system and tweaked it to suit a more aggressive approach. Let’s see more of Alan’s take on street combat using keysi system.
I’ve seen several similar techniques in 52 Blocks. Mark MacYoung also included lessons like this in some of his books back in the 90s. I like how KFM has a focus on the science of movement.
The thing i dislike about reality based self defense is that the teachers/coach/practitioner almost always go full speed during the explanation part while the students is still in listening mode. It feel a bit like a cheapshot to claim effectiveness in this type of situation where the student is not commited to attacking at all. Not saying its not a good style or coach but i really prefer when a coach gives a student the chance to also get into fight mode.
I felt that a lot with this video especially. Like I get what he's saying about the goal being destruction, but is that your goal while teaching too? It's obvious in this case that Kevin is missing some points because "Ahh big man attacking me". He could definitely slow down like 50% and get his point across much more clearly
This happens in all martial arts. And if the student is gonna fight back then that's not a martial class anymore, it's a sparring session. If you trust the teacher you pay attention to what he shows you. You can test it against other students and keep or dismiss what you want
@@brigade911 I agree with your point however i think you missread my comment,it about a student listening closely and not even i any fighting stance or mode to begin with . Then the student becomes more occupied with self protection due to being overwelmed, the coach could slow down a bit and the increase speed and confidence in the student until the technique becomes familliar so it can be drilled effectivly. I'm a boxing coach myself, and i find that showing your own skill full speed on a students reches them almost nothing aside from maybe inspiring themand showing what they can learn but you have to slow down the initial teaching until the technique is decently understood.
@@CoachKussenVuist of course teachers will show it slowly during the learning process. But they also got to demonstrate how it supposedly works in full speed. Whether it's truth or just an impression to get their students admiration and attention
Thanks Kevin for being a true martial artist and bringing more light to even the lesser known arts. One of the things I like about this art is the use of elbows and hammerfists as opposed to punches, safer in a no self defense situation.
The shielding aspect is extremely familiar to anyone who watches master wong. I see him drive forward and intercept with elbows all the time. Even training with scenarios
probably the most interesting tricks and combat methods I've seen. This guy is really very impressive. I really like the way he explains. And his body and muscles are incredible
Interesting! I love your quest to learn more. Your enthusiasm for your guests and the skills they bring is admirable. You are one of the best Kevin. Thanks again.
We have one of these schools in my town. About 8 years ago, I took the class for a summer before going back to college. It was unforgettable and made me comfortable in uncomfortable situation. 1.)Some nights, we trained in the alley behind the school, with a strobe light. It was dark, smelled like dumpster, could sometimes hear roaches scurrying in the trash and you could feel the gravel and broken glass under your feet. At first, It felt REAL and REAL threatening to even BE there, much less practice 3-on-1 drills. CONCEPT: get comfortable fighting in a parking lot in scary places. 2.)Nearly every technique is practiced against 3-4 opponents, and you alternate your "primary target." All opponents have focus mitts on and smack you around. It doesnt injure, but it hurts a LOT, if you dont move fluidly and keep you guard up. You learn to accept collateral damage on your own body. "Take pain to the shoulder, tricep, or wrist to avoid pain to your nose, face, or neck." CONCEPT: get comfortable being outnumbered and KNOWING that you CAN NOT win, so you are motivated to ESCAPE THE FIGHT as FAST as possible. 3.)Near the end of the session, we have practice in the room, with the lights off, strobe light on, and a SMOKE machine, to simulate a nightclub environment. Sometimes, loud, crappy music. Higher belts will weave through the "crowd" and randomly push you while you're trying your technique. CONCEPT: get used to sensory overload and unpredictable human obstacles in crowds 4.)During this time, SOMETIMES...the instructor will give a random student the job to walk amongst us carrying an orange rubber handgun which he is attempting to surprise you and jam into your ribs. TRAINING CONCEPT: situational awareness to spot a gunner in the crowd who is the attacker's friend 5.)Sometimes, we start on our back, surrounded by 4 standing attackers, and the drill is to get to your feet as quickly as possible, while taking the fewest hits/kicks CONCEPT: learn to not ball up in fear if knocked down and surrounded, but INSTEAD learn how to move to get to your feet ASAP from the ground. While I only did it for a few months, but dark parking lots, sensory overload, being outnumbered and overwhelmed, and watching for a gun in a crowd are all things that I got COMFORTABLE with, even though I didnt get close to mastering any of these skills. I definitely learned something new. Is it a great style? I'm the wrong guy to ask: I just dabbled, but it definitely was an eye opener to look at the world from less of a victim POV.
That’s one of the best videos on self defense I’ve watched. It works, I learned this concept from a JKD instructor who was teaching several classes in different arts . Looks like what I learned in Silat , and this was all covered in his Intense Defense class. Great video.
I thought this was going to be another gimmicky fighting system but I’m impressed. After seeing how chaotic real fights are I’ve adopted a similar approach. Reminds me of certain Shaolin styles too. Nice demonstration.
@@peezieforestem5078 It looks like something a teenage boy would develop on his own in his bedroom in 5 months. It figured out a couple key combat principles but tried to reinvent the wheel. The main position in keysi is known as the pensador, which ALMOST looks like a proper guard, but the forarms protect more of your forehead than your ribcage, which I think we know why is problematic. Professional fighters know to not use such positions because they can be easily exploited. And keysi made it clear that the pensador can be used against multiple opponents. Let me ask you something, if a position can be exploited by one person what makes you think it can't be exploited by FIVE? Another key principle that turned out to be an egg-shaped wheel is their countering 'system'. Why land a counter punch or a body shot, when you can just hammerfist their thigh? Why slip a punch, when you can just swerm around and strike their elbow? I mean what the fuck is this shit!? Keysi, Defense Lab too, are just really really bad and underdeveloped martial arts. A normal art like every other will teach you a couple basic principles in your first day, for example in wrestling you'll learn a good takedown and maybe a couple pins, in brasilian jiu jitsu you'll learn a couple positions and maybe 1 or 2 reliable submissions, and so on. On the other hand keysi just teaches you 'how to fight multiple opponents' which is not even something a professional fighter can do. Also, when is Keysi ever documented working ever? They don't have competitions, that means the art has never been tested in a serious way and every single thing taught is purely theoretical and never been tested against live pressure. Other arts such as brazilian jiu jitsu or boxing had hundreds of tournaments around the world, just today. And these competitions were filmed and documented, this is more magnitude of testing in 1 day than Keysi has probably in its lifetime.
Alot of comments saying, "This reminds me of..." As a friend of mine likes to say: "Across oceans and continents, cultures and styles, the things that tend to work all look the same."
we all have a brain that can learn how to use two arms and legs, fighting is all the same its how you choose to use it is the differentiator. thats how the style are formed in general
This reminds me of Batman & Jack Reacher because this stuff only gets used in the movies. I kid, some of the principles/techniques are good to augment a base in a more practical style.
I loved that bit, he goes full speed all video vs kevin trying to do demo-speed... then does the classic "street fighter see red" positon on kevin - hands down, chest out menacing 😂
With the style like this that is so common to Silat there is no need to punch your opponent with your fists. There are so many other options available that a closed fist should not be used for a strike unless it is a back fist or open palm. I like to think of it as a broken bone or torn ligament for every strike which equals about every second. Quicker timing would allow for 2-3 destructive moves in one second. This is good material! So much better than most of what's out there. Keep up the good work boys!!!
Absolutely agree with this guy. Since I was a kid, using walls as a tool to create energy to hit or as a defense against multiple opponents was familiar to me. Then when i was about 23, working as a courier delivery guy, I was intercepted by a band of bad guys, about 7 guys, first I did was step close to the wall so when they started to try punching me, i moved one side or the other and they punched the wall and automatically game over for them. That helped me to reduce the number of opponents to about 3 who i was able to fight with. Obviously i was robbed but survived with no injuries at all. Then when i was to the police station to file this event they was looking at me thinking I lied about the fight. So even this is the first time I ser about this technique, i agree with the concept, it is very helpful for defense situations. Thumbs up…!!!
My wife's ex decided to try and pick a fight with me back when I was 24, so I met with him behind an apartment complex on a bike trail. Luckily the fence they had was a brick wall, and you bet I used that fucker when he had 2 of his buddies hiding nearby waiting for him to get overwhelmed. My friend who was filming at the time, was a blue belt in bjj at the time was able to subdue my fighter. But I took the 2 that came out to the wall. And both my friend and myself wound up using the wall. You just want to make sure you don't drop below waste level at any point. I can't tell you how weak their strikes were when there was a wall behind me. If you can shield and move, parry and strike or grapple for control, and focus on kicks. Since kickboxing is my specialty, I used a similar French style of shielding. We didn't finish the fight sadly because police arrived and I had to play it off like it was some sort of friendly sparring match outside a mma studio
@@luxurybuzz3681It has more to do with how the films are shot, and maybe the Batsuit's lack of mobility. I don't think the style itself was ever the problem.
@@luxurybuzz3681frequently, the ugly cuts come from using actors who aren’t physically adept with martial looking movements. The cuts help them produce faster and get through with less practice/rehearsal.
I love this fighting style - Batman fighting style - they had to make it less violent and slow it down for camera. I think Tom Cruise used it in Reacher as well.
The connection with the ground is standard for power generation. I like the emphasis of learning connection with the wall and by extension your other surroundings. I know in MMA grappling with a cage it can be a resource or a bane so to see it used for more striking application beyond wall running kicks is kind of cool.
This fighting style is used in movies like Batman series and Jack Reacher. But it isn't so popular on Hollywood these days anymore. There is a variant of this style called Defense Lab creater by Andy Norman, the former partner of Justo Diéguez, used by Liam Neeson in several movies.
I noticed here quite many similar principles that my Bajiquan teacher in Finland has told me. Those 3 stages of defence I have learned from my filipino martial arts teacher (in context of knife fighting). I have also found them in manuals of both historical european martial arts and old japanese martial arts. I ques good stuff works where ever you find it. I haven't heard about this KEYSI-system ever before, but probably I will check it out more closely.
Looks like a great system for a guy the Keysi' guy size. Where at that size and weight you don't need full hip rotation to cause damage. However, for someone smaller like Kevin per se I don't him physicaly being able to do the same effective damage without proper rotation and extension on moves.
This video alone made me subscribe. I love the intensity and methodology of the shielding, striking and using all your body as a weapon. Now im just binging on all your videos!
It's interesting how different disciplines reach similar conclusions in terms of blocking. I've never heard of this fighting style, but as soon as I saw it, I was reminded of "52 blocks," which was supposed to have originated in America's prisons. This is definitely worth learning!
No wasted movement, Keep the guard up (frame), attack from defensive frame, come into the body which is slower than the head, foot stomp. Great Practical Teaching thank you Kevin Lee for bringing this Martial Artist's teachings to light.
This is cool! The concept is really neat, I'd love to learn more about what training and pressure testing looks like. It sounds like they do lots of it, I'm just curious what the curriculum looks like. Very cool stuff!
From what I hear, they don't do pressure testing. There are a couple things that would be good to add to your toolbox, but I wouldn't base my entire training from it.
I didn't realize there was a name for this my dad taught me this style of blocking and fighting from his upbringing in the Bronx helped a lot more times than I'd like to admit. Shielding saves your head from so much damage not only from fists too saved me from someone that picked up a big stick and hit me with it
@@Tempest2228 learning a lot today did a quick google and yeah that's pretty much it. fighting like that will keep you alive both my father and me are testaments to that. Cool to know they have names my dad literally at the ages of like 8-15 just taught me, oh and another tip is to peep through the slits your arms make while shielding that way you never lose contact of who your fighting and if someone else is behind them. This is as real as it gets for striking in the real world outside of sport competition
*Keysi Fighting Method (KFM) - A Breakdown of its Core Principles and Techniques* * *0:38** Shielding/Framing (Pensador):* KFM emphasizes a shielding or framing technique called the "Pensador" (Thinking Man) to protect the head. This is adaptable to various attacks and environments. * *1:12** Reactive and Adaptive:* The Pensador is trained to become a reactive and adaptable defense, going beyond a rigid technique. * *2:25** Defensive and Offensive Uses:* The Pensador serves both defensive and offensive purposes, allowing for blocking, parrying, and striking. * *3:23** Three Timings:* KFM recognizes three timings in combat: being behind time (reacting), on time (simultaneous response), and ahead of time (preemptive action). Each timing dictates the appropriate response. * *3:47** Violent Occupation of Space:* When ahead of time, KFM advocates for aggressively closing the distance and disrupting the opponent's attack. * *4:12** Attacking from the Frame:* The Pensador can be used offensively to launch attacks, primarily targeting the torso to create openings and further opportunities. * *5:44** Everything is an Attack:* KFM emphasizes that every movement should have an offensive purpose, maximizing efficiency and minimizing wasted motion. * *6:42** Punching from the Shield:* While punches are used, KFM acknowledges the risk of hand injury and prioritizes other weapons, particularly elbows and hammerfists. * *7:44** Utilizing Walls as Tools:* KFM trains extensively in using walls and other environmental features to one's advantage, including generating force and creating offensive opportunities. * *9:09** Adapting to Different Positions:* Training includes standing, squatting, kneeling, and seated positions against walls to develop adaptability and resourcefulness in various scenarios. [From Comments] This reminds some viewers of the fighting style depicted in the movie franchise, *The Batman* (2022). * *11:23** Ram Attack/K Attack:* KFM utilizes a forceful forward movement, often described as a "Ram Attack" or "K Attack," to close the distance and overwhelm the opponent, especially against a wall. * *13:15** Hand Protection:* Due to the risk of hand injuries in street fights, KFM prioritizes the use of elbows and other less vulnerable weapons. This summary provides a concise overview of the key principles and techniques demonstrated in the video, incorporating clarifying comments for a more comprehensive understanding of KFM. I used gemini-1.5-pro-exp-0801 to summarize the transcript. Cost (if I didn't use the free tier): $0.07 Input tokens: 18554 Output tokens: 562
Very interesting and insightful. As a martial artist I love learning new things and today I definitely have. I look excitingly forward to learning this style to expand my knowledge and training. Thank you so much Kevin. 👊👍.
I wouldn't agree with absolutly everything he says but I think this is a very cool concept and I think I will try out aspects of it. The wallwork in some parts seems similar to MMA but then again his wal is ridgid which changes a lot of things. I love how you look at different systems and showcase them Already tried to use some modified Savate in my kickbox sparring to great effect. Thanks for all the input!
Very interesting, almost like they took the elbow blocks from Kali and turned it into an entire martial art. My old Kali and Panantukan instructor looked really similar to this when drilling and training
Thank you so much Kevin Lee I've already reached out to sifu Alan Baker and I'm looking forward to hearing from him and learning something useful to add to my toolbox which needs to be added to and grow exponentially.
I think cuz the bread and butter techniques are really explosive and have a limited time duration, so it doesn’t lend itself to sparring. Like you shell up and charge in on their attack, but they manage to block it and reset space. What do you do, burst in again? Someone who can keep it really far range or close range defeats a lot of what KFM highlights. So I think it makes sense as a self defense system, but doesn’t dwell on prolonged sport-centric exchanges.
@@mengmao5033 for sure. I don't think it's designed for sports. The sparring part makes sense though, I wonder if they have it in their training. In that scenario you pointed, it might make sense to combine Keysi with basic boxing skills so you can have the footwork to reset/reengage as necessary. But again, I think the techniques as designed to end a confrontation as fast as possible. That of course, not always being possible against a trained opponent.
I remember Nolan's behind the scenes for Batman Begins mentioned that Christian Bale's Batman fighting style was Keysi. It looked really cool and interesting onscreen. But since RUclips began, I've looked up KFM and saw a lot of criticism on KFM. It was pretty depressing to see how easily a lot of early RUclips content creators dismisses KFM. It's encouraging that Kevin's looking into all these fighting styles and examining the physical fighting mechanics from its expert practitioners.
Idk what the issue is. It’s just basic combatives stuff that you will find across many different systems. Gross motor movements vs specific techniques, aggression and forward movement etc. It’s not going to get anyone to win an MMA championship but it’s solid stuff when you have limited time to train MOST PEOPLE to defend themselves.
The ideas of KFM are sound the problem is it became a watered down kravmaga. Like the crash guard is good. Protecting your knuckles is good(although punching tends to be most efficient way to fight). In that sense the style does what it set out to do a self defense martial art that protected your head and knuckles. I do disagree on how this guy is demonstrating the techniques but I'm not going to hold it against the keysi fighting method.
I agree that the shielding is a great aspect to add to one’s training regardless of “style”. Also love how the elbows can naturally flow off of it. Not sold on the punches- seem to lack power, seem slow and mechanical. Besides if I’m in trapping range elbows seem to make more sense.
Tom Cruise trained in this style for his role in MI3 and he also used it in Jack Reacher. It's basically a slightly modified version of Filipino panatukan and Kali.
This is practical self defense for strikers, amd good for any age, no fancy moves but every defense is an attack moves, very dangerous self defense but very practical as well.
This technique is very powerful. Im happy to have seen it. I feel like I could make use of even just this short overview. Those moves are crushing. So much power from such small movements so its very fast to. It lacks range but makes up for it with shielding and the shielding stance is also the attack stance which would make the user of this technique less readable. Especially to someone whose more farmiliar with longer range striking and more open techniques which is definitely most people. Launching off the walls could make headbutting so much more powerful it actually makes being back into the wall have its own special way of being advantageous because of being able to leverage the spine and core muscles so much more.
This is one of the best self defence systems I’ve seen. Ticks so many boxes. You can protect your head. Your back. You can remove threats quickly. Every thing you do will hurt. I think the best part as someone who doesn’t want to hurt, only defend and protect, this system lets you give a threat every single opportunity to leave you alone. Because the system is such a closed quarters system. They have to literally be in your space and give you no option but to turn their lights out. That is super appealing
Keysi gets a bad rep because The Dark Knight Trilogy choreography left more to be desired. But, I've been incorporating stances of KFM in my CQC techniques for years now and I absolutely love it.
Impressive techniques, would have been nice to see them being demonstrated a little less aggressively though. If I walked into his school and saw him showing them off like this to his students, I'd probably walk out. Like we get it, these techniques hurt, I don't need you to hurt me or somebody else for me to see that.
It really is a terrible way to teach or demonstrate. And not saying it is or isn't the case here, but typically is done by instructors who think that going full pace on a slow moving uke gives them credibility of "mastery"
This was interesting and stunning in so many ways. Thank you very much for these new ways of seeing a fight and reacting. Never heard of Keysi, but well, there are so many types of style. Seems to be very effective in street fights.
This fighting style has had some interesting history. It first was brought to light in Batman Begins and after a few movies later the co founder separated from KFM to create Defence Lab which brought up the first Jack Reacher
This guy was going 0-100 simply to make KFM look more effective than it is. There’s almost no chance that this would work against someone like Kevin if they were engaging in a situation where contact was agreed upon; there was zero resistance from Kevin. These types of guys hurt their students to create the myth of the invisible instructor.
@@beowulf_of_wall_st and you know what works against someone that’s drunk or a competent brawler? Not this… Might as well take a basic MMA class or even Krav Maga. KFM has way too many unnecessary movements. And why in earth would you want to put your chin in front of someone’s knee just so you can hammer fist a quad? People get knocked out for leaning too far forward, or attempting to level change.
These concepts are applicable to all Close Quarters Combat. I really hope that people are paying attention. Clinch work in a ring, in a cage, and against the wall have similar mechanics.
There are many vids out there that say Keysi doesn;t work. This dud shows that Keysi delivered with speed and agility and most definitely DOES work! Would you want to face off with this guy? Excellent demo and thx for posting
Yeah Keysi will definitely end a fight in seconds; anybody using it will get knocked out because it's style/gimmick over substance. Seen plenty of KFM guys get shown in proper sparring up while talking about "It's for the street bro"
Lol exactly. It's ok for someone that is fighting someone else that has never been in a fight before in their life and generally only works when you are bigger or stronger than your opponent. It's 100% a gimmick
Well like he said it takes training, regardless of this style the techniques he's using are 100% derived from bajiquan, which is an amazing style. Every martial art has application it depends on your willingness to adapt the technique to your situation.
On the one hand, even crediting KFM with the effectiveness proponents claim, you wouldn't expect it to work well in the boxing ring. Muay Thai is an effective fighting style, but if you make a Muay Thai fighter fight under boxing rules, they'd basically just be boxers with bad head movement. On the other hand, I've never heard of anyone trained up from scratch in KFM who was well known for their martial arts accomplishment in any other format either. There are some people who've trained in it as part of an extensive resume of martial arts experience who might be competent, but it doesn't seem to have much of a record of teaching people to fight.
KFM is literally just panatukan from FMA but with the stupid "pensador" defense which simply doesn't work. The pensador is a gimmick to sell a "new system" when in reality the only aspects that work are taken from existing martial arts. You want a better method of fighting off the guard? Try having a higher guard. The concept that the pensador is an effective offense simply isn't real. Let's talk about 3:33 He says if he has time to read/predict his opponents attack then he can "crash the line"... but why not just throw punches or clinch? If you have time for such a big exaggerated movement such as whatever the fuck he does then you have plenty of time to let loose a simple boxing combination. KFM is literally adding complexity to a simple movement to make it more marketable. Been around involved heavily in boxing, kickboxing and martial arts for the last 14 years, I've seen my fair share of KFM and I've even taken a few classes myself in the past to see what my friends were raving about.
JMO: If you want something quick and effective for the street, this might not be bad. If you don’t want to spend years learning a specific discipline, this is your style. It’s very basic, but cool. But, you WILL have trouble if you come up against someone with real martial arts training. I can already see certain styles and techniques I would use against this. It’s just my opinion, no need for all the “RUclips masters” to reply 😂.
I mean any technique you can find flaws, the question is are you fast enough to break through before their technique tags you. Good or bad is more dependent on the fighter and how you use it. Training, speed, and power go a long way especially with a burst attack shown here. Any good martial artist or teacher will tell you no one system will be superior and you always should be willing to evolve and take in all philosophies. What doesn't work for you throw it out, but that doesn't mean it won't work for another. Just my thought. Neither agree nor disagree with you on this one.
Punching can be dangerous but elbows and toros/solar plexus blows are a plus for shorter guys. Throwing jabs and hooks to the face will hurt your hand too easily and if that happens the fight is over for you. These techniques are really impressive.
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What fighting style did Batman use in the latest Batman film from 2022 ?
Did he use the Keysi Fighting Method in that movie too ?
@@animallover7072 keysi was used only in the triology of Nolan and others like Jack Reacher (Tom Cruise)
Never seen this before, intense. And hats off to you Kevin for staying in there and drawing out the points. I kept thinking on your behalf "keep back"!
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Sounds like a kenpo guy
I like the shielding part, the use of walls and the concept of every movement is an attack. It can be used to enrich other self defense approaches
I agree!!
Does Alan Baker have a YT channel?
@PaMuShin thanks.. I did and I've found his YT channel!
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I think the most practical part is using short, rapid, violent elbows. I've been skeptical of Keysi for years, but an exchange Sifu Baker had on the latest Warrior Poet episode. It looked like he rang John's bell with 2 quick elbows in the scramble of a knife defense drill and helped me see the practicality. They are definitely very different than the swimming elbows in Muay Thai and could have some real utility in the transitional areas of a fight. Someone overcommitting while trying to get into a clinch, in a scramble of any kind while the opponent is trying to maintain contact and while being pinned against the wall just like they show here just to name a few.
One of the things my Kali instructor would always say is that he's less afraid of the guy that can advertise himself as a fighter either before or during a fight and much more afraid of the guy that makes it look like he doesnt know what he's doing. I think this form of martial art lends itself well to that second kind of fighter.
This guy is intense. The way he lifted his shoulders and dipped his chin almost instantly, and the way he moves is legit. This system looks outstanding for dealing with the 80% of people that don't know how to fight. Good stuff Kevin!
“Don’t know how to fight” all these fights you see in mma don’t start that way in reality and the skillset you learn in mma is rarely efficient enough to stop someone who is absolutely driven to hurt you or worse. There’s rarely ever a fight when someone attacks you and you fight back or square off. Usually someone ends up seriously hurt or worse and it’s done and over with in seconds.
“But will it work against MMA?!?!” Says some random fat keyboard warrior.
How about they shut up, train and learn all you can, cuz the very concepts of Keysi is very interesting and unique: says me.
Forgot to add that more than 80 percent aren’t mma fighters and if you do meet an mma guy, his mindset isn’t on self defense so really to meet an mma guy who’s street level crazy is legendary rare.
Everything works against folks who have no clue what they are doing.
It'st the people who actually have a method and experiencing in using that method that you have to worry about.
I would also like to add that a common "thinking mistake" is that people are always thinking from a sports point of view, aiming to win from a bigger and stronger person (competition), while it would practically make more sense to know a lot of basic good techniques that just work on the streets for everybody. The streets don't have rules.. Only the law does, so be smart what to use and not to use. But this might also depend on where you live on this world.
I like the way Alan baker simplified the system to a more direct line of attack as opposed to constantly moving the arms around in a covering motion.
You can tell he has study the system and tweaked it to suit a more aggressive approach.
Let’s see more of Alan’s take on street combat using keysi system.
I’ve seen several similar techniques in 52 Blocks. Mark MacYoung also included lessons like this in some of his books back in the 90s.
I like how KFM has a focus on the science of movement.
Constellation52 trained this system before it was famous. It's father form is 52.
It's also used by Batman in the Dark Knight trilogy and by Jack Reacher in the movies. Probably to cut from the usual arts and it's kinda visual.
Read mark macyoung when I was a teen, awesome stuff.
I was just thinking that
@@ronnieettienne6335 Marc is still great
The thing i dislike about reality based self defense is that the teachers/coach/practitioner almost always go full speed during the explanation part while the students is still in listening mode.
It feel a bit like a cheapshot to claim effectiveness in this type of situation where the student is not commited to attacking at all.
Not saying its not a good style or coach but i really prefer when a coach gives a student the chance to also get into fight mode.
I felt that a lot with this video especially. Like I get what he's saying about the goal being destruction, but is that your goal while teaching too? It's obvious in this case that Kevin is missing some points because "Ahh big man attacking me". He could definitely slow down like 50% and get his point across much more clearly
This bothered the hell out of me and I don’t see enough people talking about it.
This happens in all martial arts. And if the student is gonna fight back then that's not a martial class anymore, it's a sparring session. If you trust the teacher you pay attention to what he shows you. You can test it against other students and keep or dismiss what you want
@@brigade911 I agree with your point however i think you missread my comment,it about a student listening closely and not even i any fighting stance or mode to begin with .
Then the student becomes more occupied with self protection due to being overwelmed, the coach could slow down a bit and the increase speed and confidence in the student until the technique becomes familliar so it can be drilled effectivly.
I'm a boxing coach myself, and i find that showing your own skill full speed on a students reches them almost nothing aside from maybe inspiring themand showing what they can learn but you have to slow down the initial teaching until the technique is decently understood.
@@CoachKussenVuist of course teachers will show it slowly during the learning process. But they also got to demonstrate how it supposedly works in full speed. Whether it's truth or just an impression to get their students admiration and attention
Thanks Kevin for being a true martial artist and bringing more light to even the lesser known arts. One of the things I like about this art is the use of elbows and hammerfists as opposed to punches, safer in a no self defense situation.
Which art is this?
Método keysi, es un tipo de lucha fundada por un español justo Domínguez creo
@@ismailibrahim1354
Keysi, it's not that unknown tbh.
The shielding aspect is extremely familiar to anyone who watches master wong. I see him drive forward and intercept with elbows all the time. Even training with scenarios
I knew I had seen it somewhere 😂 Very similar style, especially with the explosiveness
It also sems vary similar to defense lab sistem
Keysi Fighting Method is the origin where Defense Lab came from.
@@lboe9232guys... It's also the fighting system in the Dark Knight trilogy... The style Batman uses
It's awful it made a complete joke of Panotukan and JkD@@arkadiusnowakowski3664
I'm 55 and I grew up,,3 rules,,,,, breathing,, seeing, standing,,, but I love this guys stuff,, it's very true movements,,,, please show more
Anytime guy,, be safe out there,,,
I'm 56 and yep I agree
@@jaydebeer7251 thank you guy,,,, I'm old school,,,,
probably the most interesting tricks and combat methods I've seen.
This guy is really very impressive. I really like the way he explains.
And his body and muscles are incredible
Interesting! I love your quest to learn more. Your enthusiasm for your guests and the skills they bring is admirable. You are one of the best Kevin. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for your support!!
The Keysi method of violently taking the opponent space is similar to Bajiquan body checks.
This is great to learn.
no 😊
@@rollinOnCode no?
That's what I was thinking. Movement is your weapon.
@captainkirk7513 no no? no no stance?
indeed, I Karate and boxing we call it "stuffing" or "crowding"
We have one of these schools in my town. About 8 years ago, I took the class for a summer before going back to college. It was unforgettable and made me comfortable in uncomfortable situation.
1.)Some nights, we trained in the alley behind the school, with a strobe light. It was dark, smelled like dumpster, could sometimes hear roaches scurrying in the trash and you could feel the gravel and broken glass under your feet. At first, It felt REAL and REAL threatening to even BE there, much less practice 3-on-1 drills. CONCEPT: get comfortable fighting in a parking lot in scary places.
2.)Nearly every technique is practiced against 3-4 opponents, and you alternate your "primary target." All opponents have focus mitts on and smack you around. It doesnt injure, but it hurts a LOT, if you dont move fluidly and keep you guard up. You learn to accept collateral damage on your own body. "Take pain to the shoulder, tricep, or wrist to avoid pain to your nose, face, or neck." CONCEPT: get comfortable being outnumbered and KNOWING that you CAN NOT win, so you are motivated to ESCAPE THE FIGHT as FAST as possible.
3.)Near the end of the session, we have practice in the room, with the lights off, strobe light on, and a SMOKE machine, to simulate a nightclub environment. Sometimes, loud, crappy music. Higher belts will weave through the "crowd" and randomly push you while you're trying your technique. CONCEPT: get used to sensory overload and unpredictable human obstacles in crowds
4.)During this time, SOMETIMES...the instructor will give a random student the job to walk amongst us carrying an orange rubber handgun which he is attempting to surprise you and jam into your ribs. TRAINING CONCEPT: situational awareness to spot a gunner in the crowd who is the attacker's friend
5.)Sometimes, we start on our back, surrounded by 4 standing attackers, and the drill is to get to your feet as quickly as possible, while taking the fewest hits/kicks CONCEPT: learn to not ball up in fear if knocked down and surrounded, but INSTEAD learn how to move to get to your feet ASAP from the ground.
While I only did it for a few months, but dark parking lots, sensory overload, being outnumbered and overwhelmed, and watching for a gun in a crowd are all things that I got COMFORTABLE with, even though I didnt get close to mastering any of these skills. I definitely learned something new.
Is it a great style? I'm the wrong guy to ask: I just dabbled, but it definitely was an eye opener to look at the world from less of a victim POV.
That’s one of the best videos on self defense I’ve watched. It works, I learned this concept from a JKD instructor who was teaching several classes in different arts . Looks like what I learned in Silat , and this was all covered in his Intense Defense class. Great video.
Best part ? Kevin's face when Alan makes his move on him. ? A genuine
W T F dude ?!?! Great stuff chaps !!
I thought this was going to be another gimmicky fighting system but I’m impressed. After seeing how chaotic real fights are I’ve adopted a similar approach. Reminds me of certain Shaolin styles too. Nice demonstration.
It is actually very bad, it looks like something a teen in his garage would create.
@@jujiwastaken Mind elaborating what is bad about it? Just making empty accusations is worthless.
@@peezieforestem5078 It looks like something a teenage boy would develop on his own in his bedroom in 5 months. It figured out a couple key combat principles but tried to reinvent the wheel. The main position in keysi is known as the pensador, which ALMOST looks like a proper guard, but the forarms protect more of your forehead than your ribcage, which I think we know why is problematic. Professional fighters know to not use such positions because they can be easily exploited. And keysi made it clear that the pensador can be used against multiple opponents. Let me ask you something, if a position can be exploited by one person what makes you think it can't be exploited by FIVE? Another key principle that turned out to be an egg-shaped wheel is their countering 'system'. Why land a counter punch or a body shot, when you can just hammerfist their thigh? Why slip a punch, when you can just swerm around and strike their elbow? I mean what the fuck is this shit!? Keysi, Defense Lab too, are just really really bad and underdeveloped martial arts. A normal art like every other will teach you a couple basic principles in your first day, for example in wrestling you'll learn a good takedown and maybe a couple pins, in brasilian jiu jitsu you'll learn a couple positions and maybe 1 or 2 reliable submissions, and so on. On the other hand keysi just teaches you 'how to fight multiple opponents' which is not even something a professional fighter can do. Also, when is Keysi ever documented working ever? They don't have competitions, that means the art has never been tested in a serious way and every single thing taught is purely theoretical and never been tested against live pressure. Other arts such as brazilian jiu jitsu or boxing had hundreds of tournaments around the world, just today. And these competitions were filmed and documented, this is more magnitude of testing in 1 day than Keysi has probably in its lifetime.
That's some real "sweet" street defense! Like to more from this guy! Great video as always Kevin.
Alot of comments saying, "This reminds me of..."
As a friend of mine likes to say: "Across oceans and continents, cultures and styles, the things that tend to work all look the same."
Perfect way to put it
Except in Africa lol
we all have a brain that can learn how to use two arms and legs, fighting is all the same its how you choose to use it is the differentiator. thats how the style are formed in general
This reminds me of Batman & Jack Reacher because this stuff only gets used in the movies. I kid, some of the principles/techniques are good to augment a base in a more practical style.
Absolutely! You understand. 👊👊✊✊👏👏👌👌
11 minutes in and Kevin FINALLY says “dude chill out” in the nicest way lol
The style looks like it has merit but the showboating instructor removes an I trust I might have.
@SurmaSampo same. He didn't really answer most of Kevin's questions and he didn't show the techniques slowly.
@SurmaSampo same. He didn't really answer most of Kevin's questions and he didn't show the techniques slowly.
I loved that bit, he goes full speed all video vs kevin trying to do demo-speed... then does the classic "street fighter see red" positon on kevin - hands down, chest out menacing 😂
@@SurmaSampothey are all like this from my experience of KFM/Defence lab they think it makes them seem tough
With the style like this that is so common to Silat there is no need to punch your opponent with your fists. There are so many other options available that a closed fist should not be used for a strike unless it is a back fist or open palm.
I like to think of it as a broken bone or torn ligament for every strike which equals about every second. Quicker timing would allow for 2-3 destructive moves in one second.
This is good material! So much better than most of what's out there. Keep up the good work boys!!!
Alan Baker, total legend, more than proficient in many systems, great stuff here
This is the fighting method Batman used in the movies! I knew it! Kev is becoming a super hero!
I am gonna learn all the moves from all superheroes!
Tom Cruise also learned KFM for his turn as Jack Reacher.
Yeah, I thought this fighting style looked familiar.
@@hell0philip right yeah
Batman is a ninja... this is bs...
Absolutely agree with this guy. Since I was a kid, using walls as a tool to create energy to hit or as a defense against multiple opponents was familiar to me. Then when i was about 23, working as a courier delivery guy, I was intercepted by a band of bad guys, about 7 guys, first I did was step close to the wall so when they started to try punching me, i moved one side or the other and they punched the wall and automatically game over for them. That helped me to reduce the number of opponents to about 3 who i was able to fight with. Obviously i was robbed but survived with no injuries at all. Then when i was to the police station to file this event they was looking at me thinking I lied about the fight. So even this is the first time I ser about this technique, i agree with the concept, it is very helpful for defense situations. Thumbs up…!!!
My wife's ex decided to try and pick a fight with me back when I was 24, so I met with him behind an apartment complex on a bike trail. Luckily the fence they had was a brick wall, and you bet I used that fucker when he had 2 of his buddies hiding nearby waiting for him to get overwhelmed. My friend who was filming at the time, was a blue belt in bjj at the time was able to subdue my fighter. But I took the 2 that came out to the wall. And both my friend and myself wound up using the wall. You just want to make sure you don't drop below waste level at any point. I can't tell you how weak their strikes were when there was a wall behind me. If you can shield and move, parry and strike or grapple for control, and focus on kicks. Since kickboxing is my specialty, I used a similar French style of shielding. We didn't finish the fight sadly because police arrived and I had to play it off like it was some sort of friendly sparring match outside a mma studio
@@zenralocfrench style of shielding?
This is so interesting and a new fight form to me. Seems very effective for street engagements.
Thanks Kevin and Alan for the new insights
Keysi Fighting Method?
Awesome video Kevin. I've always liked Keysi or 'The Dark Knight' style of fighting.
Thanks! Keysi is definitely scary!
Interesting, a big complaint of Nolan's movies is his fight choreography
@@luxurybuzz3681It has more to do with how the films are shot, and maybe the Batsuit's lack of mobility. I don't think the style itself was ever the problem.
@robbanbobban2 just a common complaint I read all the time about his movies
@@luxurybuzz3681frequently, the ugly cuts come from using actors who aren’t physically adept with martial looking movements. The cuts help them produce faster and get through with less practice/rehearsal.
Sifu Alan Baker is a true warrior! One of the best around!
You can immediately tell the difference between a fighter and a lethal weapon when you see this guy. Dude is terrifying
YO! I remember KFM from Batman Begins/Nolan Trilogy. This appears incredibly real and practical. Love it.
I love this fighting style - Batman fighting style - they had to make it less violent and slow it down for camera. I think Tom Cruise used it in Reacher as well.
The connection with the ground is standard for power generation. I like the emphasis of learning connection with the wall and by extension your other surroundings.
I know in MMA grappling with a cage it can be a resource or a bane so to see it used for more striking application beyond wall running kicks is kind of cool.
Both excellent teachers all the way around !
Thank you both. My personal favorite video of all that I have seen for this type of information. Again thank you both.
this reminds me of the Hung Gar style i learned a LOT!
%90 of the techniques here were in forms we practiced in a couple ways. GREAT STUFF!
This fighting style is used in movies like Batman series and Jack Reacher. But it isn't so popular on Hollywood these days anymore. There is a variant of this style called Defense Lab creater by Andy Norman, the former partner of Justo Diéguez, used by Liam Neeson in several movies.
It's no better, source - I did it for 4 years.
What did you done for 4 years, Keysi or Defence Lab?@@BeepBoop2221
What do you mean no better?
I mean both are bad @stephenmurray8559
I noticed here quite many similar principles that my Bajiquan teacher in Finland has told me. Those 3 stages of defence I have learned from my filipino martial arts teacher (in context of knife fighting). I have also found them in manuals of both historical european martial arts and old japanese martial arts. I ques good stuff works where ever you find it.
I haven't heard about this KEYSI-system ever before, but probably I will check it out more closely.
Check Christopher Nolan christian bale The batman trilogy. The art is what batman used
I see bagua bear form
The founders of the system were Inosanto Kali Instructors.
Looks like a great system for a guy the Keysi' guy size. Where at that size and weight you don't need full hip rotation to cause damage. However, for someone smaller like Kevin per se I don't him physicaly being able to do the same effective damage without proper rotation and extension on moves.
Great video, Alan is a great instructor, thank you for sharing your knowledge, God Bless
This video alone made me subscribe. I love the intensity and methodology of the shielding, striking and using all your body as a weapon. Now im just binging on all your videos!
It's interesting how different disciplines reach similar conclusions in terms of blocking. I've never heard of this fighting style, but as soon as I saw it, I was reminded of "52 blocks," which was supposed to have originated in America's prisons. This is definitely worth learning!
And that's what martial arts actually are
I was with Alan, recently in September for the KFM Seminar. It was very nice experience
The seminar was great
Appreciate your representation of Keysi. I look forward to more content in the future.🙏🏻
We are gonna do multiple opponent fight
next!
@@KevinLeeVlog I want a piece of that👊🏻
No wasted movement, Keep the guard up (frame), attack from defensive frame, come into the body which is slower than the head, foot stomp. Great Practical Teaching thank you Kevin Lee for bringing this Martial Artist's teachings to light.
This is cool! The concept is really neat, I'd love to learn more about what training and pressure testing looks like. It sounds like they do lots of it, I'm just curious what the curriculum looks like. Very cool stuff!
From what I hear, they don't do pressure testing. There are a couple things that would be good to add to your toolbox, but I wouldn't base my entire training from it.
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurst you would be correct they don't, five years in and I never realistically sparred once
Sifu Alan definitely took the humble route when going over his background. Dude has more credentials than The Beatles have hits.
Thanks
Wow! Thank you!
I love how how Kevin looks around every time he does a move like “ Did, Did you see that”
I didn't realize there was a name for this my dad taught me this style of blocking and fighting from his upbringing in the Bronx helped a lot more times than I'd like to admit. Shielding saves your head from so much damage not only from fists too saved me from someone that picked up a big stick and hit me with it
If it was the bronx could it have been jailhouse rock or 52 blocks?
@@Tempest2228 learning a lot today did a quick google and yeah that's pretty much it. fighting like that will keep you alive both my father and me are testaments to that. Cool to know they have names my dad literally at the ages of like 8-15 just taught me, oh and another tip is to peep through the slits your arms make while shielding that way you never lose contact of who your fighting and if someone else is behind them. This is as real as it gets for striking in the real world outside of sport competition
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Brilliant video Kevin, very interesting style of fighting, but very effective and makes alot of sense when you see how it's done by an expert.
*Keysi Fighting Method (KFM) - A Breakdown of its Core Principles and Techniques*
* *0:38** Shielding/Framing (Pensador):* KFM emphasizes a shielding or framing technique called the "Pensador" (Thinking Man) to protect the head. This is adaptable to various attacks and environments.
* *1:12** Reactive and Adaptive:* The Pensador is trained to become a reactive and adaptable defense, going beyond a rigid technique.
* *2:25** Defensive and Offensive Uses:* The Pensador serves both defensive and offensive purposes, allowing for blocking, parrying, and striking.
* *3:23** Three Timings:* KFM recognizes three timings in combat: being behind time (reacting), on time (simultaneous response), and ahead of time (preemptive action). Each timing dictates the appropriate response.
* *3:47** Violent Occupation of Space:* When ahead of time, KFM advocates for aggressively closing the distance and disrupting the opponent's attack.
* *4:12** Attacking from the Frame:* The Pensador can be used offensively to launch attacks, primarily targeting the torso to create openings and further opportunities.
* *5:44** Everything is an Attack:* KFM emphasizes that every movement should have an offensive purpose, maximizing efficiency and minimizing wasted motion.
* *6:42** Punching from the Shield:* While punches are used, KFM acknowledges the risk of hand injury and prioritizes other weapons, particularly elbows and hammerfists.
* *7:44** Utilizing Walls as Tools:* KFM trains extensively in using walls and other environmental features to one's advantage, including generating force and creating offensive opportunities.
* *9:09** Adapting to Different Positions:* Training includes standing, squatting, kneeling, and seated positions against walls to develop adaptability and resourcefulness in various scenarios. [From Comments] This reminds some viewers of the fighting style depicted in the movie franchise, *The Batman* (2022).
* *11:23** Ram Attack/K Attack:* KFM utilizes a forceful forward movement, often described as a "Ram Attack" or "K Attack," to close the distance and overwhelm the opponent, especially against a wall.
* *13:15** Hand Protection:* Due to the risk of hand injuries in street fights, KFM prioritizes the use of elbows and other less vulnerable weapons.
This summary provides a concise overview of the key principles and techniques demonstrated in the video, incorporating clarifying comments for a more comprehensive understanding of KFM.
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Very interesting and insightful. As a martial artist I love learning new things and today I definitely have. I look excitingly forward to learning this style to expand my knowledge and training. Thank you so much Kevin. 👊👍.
It looks like a great match for kickboxing knee and elbows once youre in close. It also looks like a good lead to get into grappling.
I wouldn't agree with absolutly everything he says but I think this is a very cool concept and I think I will try out aspects of it. The wallwork in some parts seems similar to MMA but then again his wal is ridgid which changes a lot of things.
I love how you look at different systems and showcase them Already tried to use some modified Savate in my kickbox sparring to great effect. Thanks for all the input!
Love your charisma and smile Kevin Lee, keep it up!
Very interesting, almost like they took the elbow blocks from Kali and turned it into an entire martial art. My old Kali and Panantukan instructor looked really similar to this when drilling and training
Sifu Baker is the real deal! Very knowledgeable, and he's also very kind.
Sifu is used only for chinese martial arts and Keysi is a Fighting Method or Self Defence created in Spain by Justo Dieguez
@@casla5571Like I said, I know him. Keysi isn't the only thing he teaches...
Thank you so much Kevin Lee I've already reached out to sifu Alan Baker and I'm looking forward to hearing from him and learning something useful to add to my toolbox which needs to be added to and grow exponentially.
Awesome! Super happy to get a good representation of the method. Can't wait for the next instructor camp! Good work 🙏
From Bushibu to Kasey, these forms of defense have so much in common, but are constantly evolving. So much has changed since I was a teenager.
I have seen Keysi receive many criticism lately, but I always found it very practical and interesting.
Yeah, I feel like you just gotta go meet the instructor to find out!
I think cuz the bread and butter techniques are really explosive and have a limited time duration, so it doesn’t lend itself to sparring. Like you shell up and charge in on their attack, but they manage to block it and reset space. What do you do, burst in again? Someone who can keep it really far range or close range defeats a lot of what KFM highlights. So I think it makes sense as a self defense system, but doesn’t dwell on prolonged sport-centric exchanges.
@@mengmao5033 for sure. I don't think it's designed for sports. The sparring part makes sense though, I wonder if they have it in their training.
In that scenario you pointed, it might make sense to combine Keysi with basic boxing skills so you can have the footwork to reset/reengage as necessary. But again, I think the techniques as designed to end a confrontation as fast as possible. That of course, not always being possible against a trained opponent.
I feel like this keysi method would combine great with boxing
Too cool. I don't learn much in principle f martial arts anymore, but today I have learned something new.
I remember Nolan's behind the scenes for Batman Begins mentioned that Christian Bale's Batman fighting style was Keysi. It looked really cool and interesting onscreen. But since RUclips began, I've looked up KFM and saw a lot of criticism on KFM. It was pretty depressing to see how easily a lot of early RUclips content creators dismisses KFM.
It's encouraging that Kevin's looking into all these fighting styles and examining the physical fighting mechanics from its expert practitioners.
The founders themselves are jkd guys and ex military
@@jacobharris954 That makes sense. 👍🙏
Idk what the issue is. It’s just basic combatives stuff that you will find across many different systems. Gross motor movements vs specific techniques, aggression and forward movement etc.
It’s not going to get anyone to win an MMA championship but it’s solid stuff when you have limited time to train MOST PEOPLE to defend themselves.
The ideas of KFM are sound the problem is it became a watered down kravmaga. Like the crash guard is good. Protecting your knuckles is good(although punching tends to be most efficient way to fight). In that sense the style does what it set out to do a self defense martial art that protected your head and knuckles. I do disagree on how this guy is demonstrating the techniques but I'm not going to hold it against the keysi fighting method.
The criticism of the system is sound.
I agree that the shielding is a great aspect to add to one’s training regardless of “style”. Also love how the elbows can naturally flow off of it. Not sold on the punches- seem to lack power, seem slow and mechanical. Besides if I’m in trapping range elbows seem to make more sense.
Tom Cruise trained in this style for his role in MI3 and he also used it in Jack Reacher. It's basically a slightly modified version of Filipino panatukan and Kali.
This is practical self defense for strikers, amd good for any age, no fancy moves but every defense is an attack moves, very dangerous self defense but very practical as well.
Waiting for the "MMA is better comment" ...
MMA lis better ;)
How many of these moves are legal in MMA?
Boxing beats both.
@@claytonwhitacre1752looks like all of them.
This man is an MMA student.
This technique is very powerful. Im happy to have seen it. I feel like I could make use of even just this short overview. Those moves are crushing. So much power from such small movements so its very fast to. It lacks range but makes up for it with shielding and the shielding stance is also the attack stance which would make the user of this technique less readable. Especially to someone whose more farmiliar with longer range striking and more open techniques which is definitely most people. Launching off the walls could make headbutting so much more powerful it actually makes being back into the wall have its own special way of being advantageous because of being able to leverage the spine and core muscles so much more.
This style of fighting is Keysi Fighting Method.
The credit for the style is down to Justo Dieguez.
This is one of the best self defence systems I’ve seen. Ticks so many boxes. You can protect your head. Your back. You can remove threats quickly. Every thing you do will hurt. I think the best part as someone who doesn’t want to hurt, only defend and protect, this system lets you give a threat every single opportunity to leave you alone. Because the system is such a closed quarters system. They have to literally be in your space and give you no option but to turn their lights out. That is super appealing
Keysi was created in the mean streets of Spain, where bull attacks are a daily issue 😁
Quite fascinating. Love how he sneezes with every attack xD
I don't understand why it's so surprising that a guy going full speed will be faster than one going slow motion.
Beautiful basic principle--- shortest distance between two points is a straight line!!!
Keysi gets a bad rep because The Dark Knight Trilogy choreography left more to be desired. But, I've been incorporating stances of KFM in my CQC techniques for years now and I absolutely love it.
In the Wing Chun Dao system I teach we have similar concepts derived from in depth chi sao training. Nice vid
Poor Kevin, that guys is using too much energy.
As every self defense seller, he is super invested in looking super badass and dense...
The attacks remind me of Filipino Martial Arts. Panantukan in particular.
yes, some kali/pencak silat/arnis stuff here.
Yes that's why it's effective.
You’d all recognise KFM from the Christopher Nolan Batman. It’s the style Bats uses.
Impressive techniques, would have been nice to see them being demonstrated a little less aggressively though. If I walked into his school and saw him showing them off like this to his students, I'd probably walk out. Like we get it, these techniques hurt, I don't need you to hurt me or somebody else for me to see that.
It really is a terrible way to teach or demonstrate. And not saying it is or isn't the case here, but typically is done by instructors who think that going full pace on a slow moving uke gives them credibility of "mastery"
This was interesting and stunning in so many ways. Thank you very much for these new ways of seeing a fight and reacting. Never heard of Keysi, but well, there are so many types of style. Seems to be very effective in street fights.
This fighting style has had some interesting history. It first was brought to light in Batman Begins and after a few movies later the co founder separated from KFM to create Defence Lab which brought up the first Jack Reacher
Lmao is this true?
so you are saying jack reacher is batman?
So it got brought to light because it only works in comics 😂?
I really like that approach that seems it can be learned rapidly and intuitively.
This guy was going 0-100 simply to make KFM look more effective than it is. There’s almost no chance that this would work against someone like Kevin if they were engaging in a situation where contact was agreed upon; there was zero resistance from Kevin. These types of guys hurt their students to create the myth of the invisible instructor.
@@beowulf_of_wall_st and you know what works against someone that’s drunk or a competent brawler? Not this… Might as well take a basic MMA class or even Krav Maga. KFM has way too many unnecessary movements. And why in earth would you want to put your chin in front of someone’s knee just so you can hammer fist a quad? People get knocked out for leaning too far forward, or attempting to level change.
These concepts are applicable to all Close Quarters Combat. I really hope that people are paying attention. Clinch work in a ring, in a cage, and against the wall have similar mechanics.
Lol he fights like a Tekken character. Real life Paul.
🤣🤣🤣
this guy is amazing. i need to see all these moves in slo-mo
The tall guy is a show off. He does not give Kevin a chance. No warning just attack and then he makes the sound effect. LOL
There are many vids out there that say Keysi doesn;t work. This dud shows that Keysi delivered with speed and agility and most definitely DOES work! Would you want to face off with this guy? Excellent demo and thx for posting
Yeah Keysi will definitely end a fight in seconds; anybody using it will get knocked out because it's style/gimmick over substance.
Seen plenty of KFM guys get shown in proper sparring up while talking about "It's for the street bro"
Lol exactly. It's ok for someone that is fighting someone else that has never been in a fight before in their life and generally only works when you are bigger or stronger than your opponent. It's 100% a gimmick
Well like he said it takes training, regardless of this style the techniques he's using are 100% derived from bajiquan, which is an amazing style. Every martial art has application it depends on your willingness to adapt the technique to your situation.
On the one hand, even crediting KFM with the effectiveness proponents claim, you wouldn't expect it to work well in the boxing ring. Muay Thai is an effective fighting style, but if you make a Muay Thai fighter fight under boxing rules, they'd basically just be boxers with bad head movement.
On the other hand, I've never heard of anyone trained up from scratch in KFM who was well known for their martial arts accomplishment in any other format either. There are some people who've trained in it as part of an extensive resume of martial arts experience who might be competent, but it doesn't seem to have much of a record of teaching people to fight.
KFM is literally just panatukan from FMA but with the stupid "pensador" defense which simply doesn't work.
The pensador is a gimmick to sell a "new system" when in reality the only aspects that work are taken from existing martial arts.
You want a better method of fighting off the guard? Try having a higher guard. The concept that the pensador is an effective offense simply isn't real.
Let's talk about 3:33
He says if he has time to read/predict his opponents attack then he can "crash the line"... but why not just throw punches or clinch? If you have time for such a big exaggerated movement such as whatever the fuck he does then you have plenty of time to let loose a simple boxing combination.
KFM is literally adding complexity to a simple movement to make it more marketable.
Been around involved heavily in boxing, kickboxing and martial arts for the last 14 years, I've seen my fair share of KFM and I've even taken a few classes myself in the past to see what my friends were raving about.
@@stupidfrog2205 why does the pensador not work?
If you had spiked gauntlets like batman this would probably work really well.
Guy needs to chill, imagine him doing this to Tyson ‘ethcuse me, can you relax?’
awesome offense and defense technique. damaging for offense i must say. aweosme.! Weldone KL and team!
Even the teaching commentary speaks of timing in connection to range and reaction ....very similar, as well as destroyong the attack
JMO: If you want something quick and effective for the street, this might not be bad. If you don’t want to spend years learning a specific discipline, this is your style. It’s very basic, but cool. But, you WILL have trouble if you come up against someone with real martial arts training. I can already see certain styles and techniques I would use against this. It’s just my opinion, no need for all the “RUclips masters” to reply 😂.
Hello, RUclips Master here. Seriously though, I agree with your comments.
@@thealleycat 😆😆😆 Thank you.
I mean any technique you can find flaws, the question is are you fast enough to break through before their technique tags you. Good or bad is more dependent on the fighter and how you use it. Training, speed, and power go a long way especially with a burst attack shown here.
Any good martial artist or teacher will tell you no one system will be superior and you always should be willing to evolve and take in all philosophies. What doesn't work for you throw it out, but that doesn't mean it won't work for another. Just my thought. Neither agree nor disagree with you on this one.
Punching can be dangerous but elbows and toros/solar plexus blows are a plus for shorter guys. Throwing jabs and hooks to the face will
hurt your hand too easily and if that happens the fight is over for you. These techniques are really impressive.
Step 1: Be bigger than the other guy
Size is completely irrelevant. I have empirical evidence of that.
You have heard the saying the bigger they are the harder they fall
I thought that til I saw all those street brawl vids where skinny bros beat up taller muscle machines
Kevin, thanks so much for the great content, I'm so happy for how much your channel has grown
Why is Kevin going like 20% and this guy just coming at him at 95% - 100%??? This didn’t bother anyone else?
Maybe that is that guy’s 20%?
A better instructor is when the instructor doesn't use force until the student has an established base
Yea he comes off like a douche. Needs to show this to someone above his weight class.
Awesome!
he's a good representant of keysi