Predicting the Trilogy: Final Fantasy VII Remake/Rebirth/Re...
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2023
- A prediction of the metatextual direction that Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and the untitled Remake Part 3 will take, based on the ending of Remake and footage of Rebirth seen thus far.
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Great video, bro :) Looking forward to uncover the deep sea with the submarine in part 3 and hopefully and expansion with Cid in space!
For the most part, I appreciate your approach. It's fairly straightforward and reasonable to believe. Kudos.
Dude, THANK YOU. I sadly have become very irritated with even some of my favorite content creators and am now considering making my own content because people can’t seem to ground themselves in reality like yourself. Good shit, kudos and cheers.
Very nice clear concise thoughts, I've been predicting very similar things myself. Especially the "characters who were supposed to die will have to die", I think that a Zack death at the end of part 3 is gonna hit hard. I'd love if they manage to pull this off while still creating a cohesive experience for people new to FF7
Thanks! Fingers crossed.
I’m sure it’s gonna be “Reclaim “! Calling it now lol. The titles are connected to sephiroth and his end game. He remade the timeline, he will have his rebirth and like he says in one of the trailers he will reclaim our world!
I love you're concise thoughts, but I wonder if they are trying to either re-write Advent children and Crisis Core to be usable within this Remake trilogy? Oh and that while thing with Zack I think they are going in the direction of creating a grandfather paradox.... I've dropped you a like 🙂
Who does he think is directing this game, Rian Johnson? Why would the fight at the end of Part 2 be "Undo the end of Part 1" ???
* Has visions of FF7 ending. * “This is what happens if we fail here today.” It’s literally what happened.
@@Joshiepoo2525 those visions were the bad outcome. The party was fighting so those visions wouldn't happen.
Those visions were the ending of the original game, unchanged.
@@Joshiepoo2525 yes they were. The party treated those visions as bad things to happen. They were fighting for better future.
The ending of FF7 wasn't good by any means. Aerith dead, Cloud broken and later humanity goes extinct.
Interesting to see how much it will change.
I just realized I misread your initial comment. Apologies.
Part 2 has made it clear that cloud's mind is actually in a worse state in remake than it was in og.. part 3 is gonna be grief. The red hairings being put in are brilliant, it gave us a sense that we can change things but actuality it's not... my theory is, from observation is imo, were seeing from clouds final moments on hos death bed. Fighting to change, trying to presserve his mind for the last time but sephiroth still lingers through his memory. And aerith is fighting with cloud as she waits for him to join before the degradation puts him to sleep forever.
The answers are already there. Just dig through the official compilation and you can see the story clear as day. Parallel worlds, Lifestream White, Lifestream Black. Geostigma. The gray morality of Shinra (and the bastard sons). The advancements and horrors of science. The doom and hope of such a fragile existence. Hopes, Dreams, Honor. Mind, Body, Soul. The three friends. Loveless. The Edge of Creation. When worlds collide. It all makes sense when you actually take in the compilation. Also, not a sequel. It makes so much more sense when you ditch that frame of reference. Think of the Lifestream as an everlasting concept. All information that has or ever will exist is contained within. RE:make project is just an organization of said stream. I've always been adamant that the Remake Project was initially a 4 part project. Remake, Rebirth, (what I believe pt 3 will be) Regenesis, and the final mystery piece... Reunion. The past has already happened, the end of the remake trilogy will "sync" up with Advent Children. The same story beats.... Everything til the end of Core is canon, Everything from the opening credits of Advent is canon. Parts of Before are canon, all of Dirge is canon. The abridged reality is EVERlasting. I continue to be impressed by the Remake project and I hope the devs have a better grasp on the lore than I who hasn't even (personally) read the novels, played Before or First SOLDIER, or even cared about anything other than the OG (Core was OK but schlocky OK)
I know you said it's not a sequel but the Developers said it's a continuation of the story that sounds like a sequence he said that
Return
Something to do with RE
what do you think part 3 will be called!? my best senses is reunion or regrowth, or renewal, reclaim
Restore, Reclaim, Renew, Return
@@Joshiepoo2525 i think with renew renewal sounds more better and more final fantasy sounding
what color do you think the title will be i think it will be green! but what about you!?
Yeah probably green. I think they’re gonna stick to 2 syllable words.
I can tell advent children complete movie is going to be "Reunited" cause whole og team literary Reunited fighting Bahamut so part 3 definitely is not going to be Reunited
You think we'll get a Final Fantasy VII-2 once the remake trilogy is done? Or a Dirge of Cerberus remaster/remake like Crisis Core got?
I think a sequel to the trilogy is very possible.
I really hope we don’t get Zack as a party leader. I would like to control Tifa and CID as party leaders like the OG
I’m sure we will. Maybe Zack will lead a third when they split up.
@@Joshiepoo2525I think maybe ff7 revive or return. Something to do with RE
Considering how the Devs mentioned how the second installment of a trilogy is considered the best that has major events (hinting Empire Strikes Back) I honestly hope we don't have a "I am your father" moment, but something just as major but not something being redone,
I'm pretty sure something's going to happen. Cloud go to the livestream until we get him back and it might be like in the halfway point of the third game when we're battling the weapons just like in the original
Doubted, trailer look like Zack is in the remake timeline while current party is in rebirth timeline
If aeris is dead in zacks timeline, then her real mom might be the one still alive.🤔
I predict that Jenova will shapeshift into someone in our party (similar to the whirlwind maze) and kill Aerith and then change multiple times (into Sephiroth and beyond potentially). We keep seeing events moved up in the timeline. This makes a lot of sense to me 🤷♂️
I got a feeling it's going to all be a 'Sephiroth was actually right' by the end of part 3 and that we were all wrong about him and his purpose. We don't know him. They're going to make us conflicted about ending him, but it would be too late. The fates are cruel. No one can escape their fate.
But whatever happens, the ending won't be the same.
Part 3 is Revenge. You heard it here first!
1:28 "why are you lying to me" ? they didn't lie tho
unless you skipped the final trailers there is no reason to not expect that ending since we even saw Sephiroth using meteor on that final trailer
also the Specters were already in the previous trailers and changing things all over the game as well
I like the game. I was just explaining why it took me a while to come to terms with it. The final trailer showing end-game spoilers isn’t an excuse for anything. But the issue wasn’t them changing stuff. The issue was that this was not a remake with changes, it was a sequel in another timeline that references the original. Calling it a remake is a lie. And that’s fine.
@@Joshiepoo2525 it's only a lie in name tho
if you saw the trailers it was already pretty clear that they were introducing new elements such as the Specters
saying SE lied because you were not aware of that and placing the blame on a naming choice doesn't mean that they lied about it it just means that you personally didn't realize what they were showing you in their promotional content
Again, new elements is what was promised. It being a sequel instead of a reboot is the lie. That was nowhere in any marketing. It was a plot twist, period.
I expected whispers. I expected changes. I expected embellishments. We all did. Nobody expected the reveal that what we’d been playing was a timeline where characters know about the original game’s story, and want to take in a new direction. I’m happy with it now. But it was, objectively, dishonest marketing. Not saying there was another way to do it, but it is what is is.
@@Joshiepoo2525 why are you even bring up the RE project being a sequel?
that's not even confirmed for all we know they're just in a different timeline where things went different and are interacting with another entirely new timeline
as for what they said they showed the escape from Motorball and then went straight for the ending scene of VII-Remake if you didn't see that then that's on you not on SE
Revelation
Restore
Renew
Revive
Having the universe bend back over itself so that bad things happen if people don't die is one of the worse places I think they could take this. I'm fine with Aerith dying again simply because that's the way things ending up playing out and her getting unlucky.
but as son as they start going, Aerith and Zack "need to die" and trying to stop death is bad they are messing up. The universe isn't trying to balance the good and bad in this world and the whole cliche of timetravelling always having a downside is too overdone.
I guess I’m in the minority here but I think one of the greatest things they did with Remake was making it a sequel as well. I was happy with how it ended and wanted more. However this trilogy ends I’m here for it regardless of who lives or dies.
I’m in it for now. Hope they stick the landing.
@@Joshiepoo2525I know you can’t judge something before it comes out but I’ve watched and read up on damn near everything that’s available about FFVII Rebirth and the dev team definitely have their head on their shoulders. They’re doing their absolute best to make sure they don’t leave any stone unturned. They understand everything that this trilogy is supposed to be. However, do take into consideration that artistic liberties will be taken. They still want it to feel fresh and have surprises for FFVII veterans. After all, one of the taglines for Rebirth is “The Unknown Journey Continues”. The fact we’re even getting an undertaking of this magnitude already shows the love the dev team has for FFVII and the fans. When it’s all said and done they would’ve spent tens of thousands of man hours and hundreds of millions of dollars with FFVII Remake alone being one of the most expensive video games to be produced. Unfortunately there still will be those purists where not even perfection will be good enough. I don’t have the mind of a whiny bitch so I know I’m gonna have the time of my life with these games! I hope you will too. If you don’t it won’t be for the lack of work and passion on the dev’s part.
The ending of remake put me in a bad mood for a whole week. It completely undermined the themes of coping with grief and loss found in the original game.
Hopefully a red herring, and the party will realize the error of their ways by the end of part 3.
Characters are already dealing with loss ? Yuffie losing Sonon ? What is a good way to make Zack and Aerith deaths impactful? Making you believe you CAN change it ! I believe you're going to see Zacks story similar to FF8 Laguna where it's segmented. Also I'm HUGELY against Tifa being killed. Tifa does not matter in the big picture.