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Trying a new way to milk our goat (Willow a Nigerian Dwarf)
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2018
- Trying a new way to Milk our Nigerian Dwarf goat Willow
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i would keep the kids out of that part barn until you are finished milking. you should watch Ethan & Lydia’s milking technique on Weed em and Reap. notice they keep all the other goats out etc. also i think you have to watch how much grain you give them or they get bloated and have tummy problems. Danielle gives them a home remedy for this when it happens, she also worms them once a month or something. She has lots of information on her page.
Yes! Give them a mineral supply! Love WR!
The first few squirts should be discarded as bacteria can be present just inside the teet. You also need to be the one in charge to train the goats properly. As long as you are not hurting them you should continue milking until the teet are empty.
I have been squirting the first 2 squirts from each teet into my rag.
Al, Chaffhay is a fresh product. Once the bag is opened, it will last for 7 days. To stretch that, I put it in gallon ziplock bags in the freezer, one in fridge and enough out for a day or two. Then I rotate, bring out one in fridge, put one in fridge from freezer. Since you have an indoor root cellar, you may be able to keep the Chaffhay in there.
Yes, definitely put it in the walk in cooler. I get around 20 gallon bags (stuffed full) from one bag of chaffhaye. I keep those in the freezer. I don’t even thaw them. They break apart easily while frozen and the goats and sheep love it cold on a hot day.
Wow we could use that rain over here in California! Make sure that when Willow kicks or moves her back legs while milking that you do not let go of her udder! If you keep letting go when she moves she will learn that when she moves or steps in the milk bucket that you will stop touching her, but if you keep holding on and only let go once she stands still then she will become a great milker!
You may need hobbles for Willow. You can attach them to the milking stand instead of hobbling her legs together. Just a thought :-)
Seriously! Listen to the experienced out there that are telling you to take charge of your goat😃! Every time you stop milking because she moves/kicks/doesn't like it, tell her NO and fluff her food in the feed bowl and continue milking. Only stop milking when she is standing still! It's kinda like training a horse. Always end when things are positive (i.e., The way you want!) Also, lock every other goat out. You have built an amazing barn and milking area. I'm jealous! Use it well.
You need to train your goats, not let your goats train you. Goats have a pecking order, same as chickens, and right now, you are on the low end of that pecking order. These are young goats, they have no manners and will do as they please unless you train them otherwise. Keep the kids outside the barn entirely when milking. Latch the milk stand so Willow can't remove her head until you say so. The kids are old enough to be weaned, they both eat grain and hay at will. You need to strip Willow's udder clean at every milking, don't leave "milk for the kids," just because Willow is acting up. Hobble her if you have to, to keep her from kicking. The longer you let them get away with bad behavior now, the harder it will be to break later. You can train them and still be gentle, but you must be firm about how you want them to behave. A lead goat will head butt underlings to keep them in line, and the underlings will still love to be near the lead goat. You can't be afraid you're going to alienate the goats and they won't like you anymore. It doesn't work like that with goats, they will own you if you let them.
Add a cross bar to the diagonals on the hay feeder, just large enough for their heads to fit through but not their bodies. They will poop in that hay and refuse to eat it. It's a feeder, not a play pen.
Thanks, how long have you been raising goats for? Sounds like you have a lot of experience. thanks for the tips
I originally started with larger livestock, dairy cows and horses while still in high school. When I had a rental farm/homestead I got into goats. The woman, Mary, I got my goats from ran a small commercial goat dairy of 40- 60 milking does (depending on who was in milk and those that were dry and expecting) in addition to her two bucks, 1 alpine, 1 nubian, she always had a plethora of young does. She taught me a lot and I helped on her dairy during kidding season and debudding.
My very first experience with goats, was before I had goats of my own. Visiting friends on their very remote, off grid homestead, her doe went into labor. After several hours labor and no kid I knew she was in trouble. My experience with dairy cows came in handy. I lubed my arm with cooking oil and went in to probe the doe. I found the kid's nose but the front legs were bent and the joints locked so they would not straighten out. Left with the choice of breaking those joints and getting the kid out or losing the doe and kid. We opted to break the legs as the kid was already dead. Out came the first of the kids, the second came easier but was very weak from the prolonged labor. With lots of nurturing the kid regained strength and did make it. The doe was fine and was milking the next morning.
I had a similar situation with one of my own does. She delivered a buck kid with no problems. For hours afterwards she was still bellowing as if in labor. I lubed up and probed all the way up to my elbow, and found the skeletal remains of an unformed kid. Once I cleaned all that out my doe was fine. She was a big Alpine and a great milker. None of my other does had issues while kidding. Although from time to time my friend Mary would have a difficult birth. Mary didn't muck about with her goats or with does in difficult labor. Having smaller hands and arms than I she would go right in, suss out the situation and normally have a healthy kid and doe. All of Mary's goats knew Mary was the lead goat, except the bucks, they had minds of their own. Mary impressed upon me the importance of establishing yourself as lead goat. When we would go into her paddocks her goats would come running to her. All the milking does were milked according to their position in the "pecking order." Everything was orderly and in control. Kids being kids, they took their cues from the older does who kept them somewhat in check. Still they would run rampant and act like crazy goat kids are prone to do.
All in all I did this for nearly 10 years until my farm was sold out from underneath me. Hope this helps.
I'm 64 years old now, and have lived a very full life with lots of experiences and adventures.
Put some food outside the pig pen to coax them to venture out more into the pasture. 💜🌞🌵
Hi, have you ever seen Crystal at Blue Cactus Dairy here on RUclips? She has some really good advice on milking FF's and on Nigerian Dwarf goats
I was just going to suggest BCDG. Crystal is awesome and super knowledgeable.
Eyehaightewe Gofuqurcelph she really is!
Your goat's are too cute your milking will get better your family will pros in no time it's all time and practice
I’m so glad that the chaffhaye, sweet feed and mason jar were all a success!
Willow is young she will fill out! No worries. That chaffhaye and sweet feed will help.
It definitely is a good morning Al, morning Gina and Olivia, another great day around the 🏡 homestead, i hear yeah Mr. Biggs, the chickens are growing nicely, just love those pigs. The milking will get better Al. Oh the life of the pigs are great. Thanks for sharing. 👋 bye. 🐐🐐🐐
Lots of rain and the farm look real green. Goats are getting to know you.
you should watch Weed em and Reeps milking videos, they have a stool and massage the bag to get the milk to flow, I remember doing that when I used to help milk the cow we had way back when... Don't let her decide when to end the milking, they tend to hold the milk back for the babies and you massage the bag to get it "down"... The babies should be kept out till the milking is over or it will distract the mother and she will hold the milk.
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Hi Al! We got baby Nubians two years ago, they kidded last Sping. We milked a year, stopped for two months waiting on new babies. Goats are wonderful, but they need a good routine. I would suggest keeping the babies separate at night and go to once a day milking. I would also close off the milking area so the babies aren’t distracting mama or you. Milking once a day means you milk until she is dry. We have always milked into glass jars, then bring in to filter and get cold. Hope this is helpful. Bless your heart, filming while you are getting the hang of this!
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Rufus ain't no fool ...... he just follows the money (buckets)! Yep, those kids don't have separation anxiety, they want to get in and eat what momma's gettin. I'd still "bait" those pigs with a trail of scraps, especially if they see you going out into the pasture ahead of them ....pied piper AL ~8^) Take care Lumnahs !!
My typo on the mother goat's name, I realize it is Willow!Our neighbor is helping us hay today. When I spoke with his wife, Carol, I mentioned your new goats. She smiled and asked, would that be " New Yolk city?" So you have a following in Central New Hampshire! Jim and I are driving past Lincoln on Saturday to attend his son's wedding. Where are you located? Have a great day!
Seems like the kids were crying a lot whilst you were milking. What about throwing down some food for them too whilst milking Willow. That way they will be too busy to cry and make Willow nervous? 💜🌞🌵
For what it is worth. You are doing a heck of a job. First time milking. You and the new time mom just got to get used to each other. It will all become second nature to the both of you. It all makes me excited to when I can get goats myself. I was raised milking holstein when I was a kid. I am now looking to get into dairy goats.
It's good that you let the kids finish willows meal because it is training for them to get up on the stand for when they are older
Great video...and lots of good 'know how' advice from your subbies about rearing and controlling the goats...Even figaro is curious..Have a cool day!🐆🐱🐖🐄🐐
Good morning Al, Gina and Olivia. I grain/ milk fed my pigs. Plus fresh greens. The meat came out excellent! Almost snow white. Regarding crows. We have a bumper crop at our farm in central NH. They got into the main garden, dug out the Butternut seedlings and ate the seeds. Twice! So I went down to Tractor Supply and bought flash sparkle tape and bird netting. There are also tin pie plates in my kitchen garden. This is war! Killed my first two Squash Bugs. That's another challenge. Someone said plant Nasturtiums around the squash. Still haying here> and on and on :-) Good job milking Blossom!
Glad you found something that works for you.Can't imagine milking little teats, that's why I have larger milk goats.But everyone has to chose their own dreams.Love the names of your goats, so cute!
good day to you Al, Gina and Olivia !! awesome idea milking into a jar !!
yea it was a great idea. I wish i could remember who recommended it
I do our meat birds at the 10 week mark. The goats are adjusting nicely AL on a good side the little goats are learning that the milk stands is a special treat spot with Alpha
Low humidity, what is that?.... Here it rained most of the day. Humidity it in the low 90s most of the time. Your grass is looking nice and green, tall and thick. Those meat birds look so good. I am hoping your new field will grow in nice and green. What do you plan to do with the newfound land? Alfalfa, clover, birdsfoot trefoil? The pigs may drink the contaminated milk. A small string around the hoof, (at least for a while), may keep the hoof on the milking stand. I am sure the pigs will enjoy the milk as well and you will get better at milking and the die will get better at letting you milk her. Willow looks like a very gentle goat. When will you wean the kids. Weaning them, you will get a whole lot more milk, (of course). That milk will make great cream in your coffee. Blessings!
thats pretty humid. I dont know how you do it
Some people finish their meat birds by feeding them raw goatmilk and fermented grains. Usually the last couple weeks.
Looks like the goats are fitting into the farm really well. Enjoyed the video, have a blessed day
Its a good idea to start training the kids to get used to you touching their udders when they come in to eat at the milk stand it has always worked for me, don't stop touching the udder till they stop stomping some goes for willow if she thinks stomping gets you to stop she will continue to do it. Some take longer to catch on but it has helped me with several I have purchased, all my kids are pretty much milk stand broke by a few months old makes it extremely easy once they have their own kids.
Thanks for the update! Those little piggie, so cute! Goatsylvania! Wow such lucky animals!!
goats are so friendly it makes it hard at butcher time
I like to use a stainless steel mug for girls who are kickers or who lay down.
Palming the mug vs hold like you'd drink from it.
Even when I use a tether, sometimes things go sideways. The mug helps my Spidey reflexes avoid spilled or spoiled milk.
If you do a search they make a hand pump for collecting goats milk it will completely temple the possibility of willow stepping in her milk and make the job easier. There's a diy version of the same device and a youtube video showing how to do it.
Start putting your scraps in your feed pan out in the field to encourage the pigs to get out there.
Willow and you will get a routine! My Uncle Gene used to milk like a crazy man, then he got automatic milkers, and wow did that go fast. But he had been milking since he was a boy. Figero had his cameo. Pluto also had a few turns in front of the camera. We'll have a good day Lumnahs!🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐸🐸🐸🐸🐞🐞🐞🐞🐢🐢🐢🐢🐠🐠🐠🐠🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐣🐣🐣🐣🐔🐔🐔🦃🦃🦃🦃🐦🐦🐦🐦🐤🐤🐤🌈🌈🌈
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You sound almost exactly like my father in law. Lol. He’s from New Hampshire and I still can’t get over the accent. My husband has zero accent and I’m from California so it’s very foreign to me.
Not sure if you guys have looked into it but they sell hobbles for goats that kick during milking you can use them in the training stages then phase them out
I’m jealous, here in TEXAS we are to hit triple digits this weekend with 80% humidity....😓
Don't let the baby's in the stall while your milking use both arms to block the goat from stepping in the milk stop holding the bottom of the can go to ( weed em and weep )those kids are the best milkers on RUclips you'll learn so much from them I promise
Al: “You could hear them calling you?”
Gina: “No”
Al: “Oh”
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I saw somewhere that they had put old snow skis on the chicken tractor to make it slide easier.
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Love your videos! You sure are making progress with the goats and the meat birds look wonderful.
Try giving the pigs some feed, scraps & a water source out in the pasture where you want them to go. With the gate open & you showing them their feed & scraps when they're hungry might get them out there. Then they'll know it's safe. That zap they got when they first came out I think scared them from going out. They know it's safe inside the pen. You might try turning it off the first times they come out, then turning it back on while they're out might work.
The goats look like they're settled in nicely.
Any names for the pig & goat pens, like you have for New Yolk City?
Your milking seemed to go pretty good for you both being beginners. She stepped a little but that's normal when you are learning. You will get better at dodging the foot in the pail. Chafhay is very rich, be careful not to give a lot or it could cause diarrhea. Keeping unlimited alfalfa pellets in feed bowl on the milk stand is good. Sweet feed is really high in sugar so careful on that too. I used Mason jars in beginning too! Great work my friend! Let me know if you need any help with the goats as I have been mentoring lots of others.
I milked hundreds of goats over 20 years and have some tips for you. Set on the milk stand and lean into the goat and put her off balance. She will plant her feet and not kick while you are milking her. If you want a CAE ( caprine arthritic encephalitis) free herd you need to milk the doe, pasteurize the milk and bottle feed the kids. That will make the kids easy to handle too.
LOL! Popular guy! Everyone clamoring for your attention! :)
Lol, thats one way to look at it!
On your chicken tractor run a board maybe a 2X4 down the middle of your tarp to make a small pitch to help with rain water
pick mine up tomorrow xxx
Those little goats are too cute! It seems Willow doesn't like having her udder wiped; maybe the wipes are cold? If you use warm water (like a bath), would she be more willing?
You and Willow will get there soon.
Have you thought of reversing the top lid on the pig feeding station so you don’t have to reach around to drop the feed in. Great video
Love the new goats and the home, maybe you might want to find a friend that has goats and take a few milking lessons! :) :)
The wide rain hole is from underground perhaps. Time for baby kiddie yard!!!!
Wow Al, what time do you get up in the morning to get all those chores done? I've heard you say that you do them before you go to work. Your a good man! Taking care of all your responsibilities. Of course Gina and Olivia too : )
I would keep head gate on until totally finished.
No, alfalfa is not a grass, it is a legume.
I wonder if you face the slats on the hay feeder with 1x4 slats if it would close the gap so kids cant get init? Thinking if they 6in apart.....adding a 1in on eather side of the current slats would bring it down to 4in apart. I think thier heads would still fit
What breed is Rufus? I’ve always admired his coloring!
It looks like the mason jar works well to keep the feet out of your milk.
Have you tried putting the kitchen slop out in the grassy area to entice the pigs?
good mornin
Wow, would that chaf-alfalfa be ok for chickens?
Al, ask the wife on Homesteady about the finer points on milking mama goats. She has goats and a milk cow so I would consider her an authority.
i have one goat that dances around a lot so i hold one leg with my left hand and put it on my knee and use my right hand to milk. it stops the dancing and putting her hoof in the milk.
Thanks
92% humidity...… Ugh : ( You have a beautiful homestead though!
Good shot😂😂ya will get it.
I hope so! Lol
When you miking her trying to pump it down two times and it will be better and the bucket is better for mikling the first pump will get the milk closer second pump well pump the milk out. And when you mikling her face her tail not her stomach and took both of your hand between her legs one whole the bucket one pump and it give you a better grade from holding her moving around need more hlep dm me
I am from ri love ur farm. And i will love to visit the fram one day
U should show more cooking like u use to do
Rufus is one greedy rooster
Good morning sir... can I ask what you use for chicken mites an lice please
Wonder if you give the kids somthing to ocupy them while you milk? I do not have any idea what tho.......you seem to give them alot of goodies already.....but its a thought.......maybe
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😉good job pretreating for pink eye..lol
Since you have roosters aren't a large proportion of your eggs fertilized? Do you candle them? Do you eat the fertilized eggs?
THX1138 Smith we have 3 roosters and yes We eat the fertilized eggs. We have 30 hens and not all get fertilized, those roosters have favorites. Just make sure to get them everyday and wash/get to fridge ASAP. Not a big deal, only a little blood spot on yolk. If you're squeamish you can always use a spoon to remove it from your egg when cooking/after cracking it open. Just another aspect of Homesteading/farm life one gets used to.
Hey al......ever watch deermeatfordinner? He somehow links butcher/processing videos in his monotised "safe" video. Idk how he does it but he shows the whole butchering. Idk if that would help. I know how to butcher but i like watching others too and see if i can learn tips/tricks
So much for keeping the goats from pooping and peeing on their hay. 😉
can ferment your hay save money
How many chickens do you raise for a years worth of meat?
You should make goats cheese out of it... It's delicious! :)
Milking a nigerian is tough goat to start on especially a first freshener. Small teats and tight udder. Adult hands have a hard time even the experienced. Keep the kids out of the milking parlor, feed them to keep them occupied. Make her stand to completion. don't give up. Music helps, setting a rhythm, humming and talking sweet to them. Thats a lot of work for a cup of milk.
Are you thinking about getting a cow, so you have enough milk for the family? When I was about 7 years old, I remember drinking some goat's milk at the local fair....it was warm and it tasted awful, compared to the fresh cow's milk that we were used to.
When you let the babies on the stand go ahead and start touching them as if your milking them. They'll get used to it. And also you tell willow when your done not the other way around
Chickens like it too.
What breed is Rufous ? Did you name the goat pen yet ? If so did you mention it ?
Rufus is an Icelandic chickens and no we havent named the goat pen yet.
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For the kicking and stepping in the milk problem,Blue cactus Dairy goats seems to have an easy solution on their milk stand. Watch their milking Nigerian Dwarf Goats video, especially their rope setup that they use on the second goat they milk, who kicks much worse than yours. m.ruclips.net/video/IZRvoglmM6s/видео.html
I noticed she kicked her back legs a lot when you first started milking her don't they have straps that you can put on their back legs to keep them from kicking in the milk not sure think I heard that one time
Is roofus a novogen chicken? My son was wondering. Sorry if I spelled his name wrong.
Rofus was an Icelandic rooster
So the broody hen is not having any eggs?
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Keep the kids away and don't stop. You need to strip her out. I have a 15 month old doe still nursing so don't expect much milk for a while!
Even in her foot ends up in it just filter it out it will be the same
maybe you need to tell the goat hhow is the hoss
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Why dont you tie the goats back feet so she cant put her feet in the bucket, other homesteaders do it and it works for them. jmo.
Those aren't crows making all that noise. Ravens. Just fyi
The government allows GMO of anything.