Joe Rogan and David Pakman Debate Social Media Censorship

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Taken from JRE #1479 w/David Pakman: • Joe Rogan Experience #...

Комментарии • 8 тыс.

  • @rg5445
    @rg5445 4 года назад +3699

    Joe is moving to Spotify because they promised him longer headphone cables.

    • @hassleoffa
      @hassleoffa 4 года назад +62

      The short cable is driving me crazy ... I must have OCD or something.

    • @xavierreed8050
      @xavierreed8050 4 года назад +13

      😂😂

    • @furymittens1910
      @furymittens1910 4 года назад +13

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @FastSloW-qt8xf
      @FastSloW-qt8xf 4 года назад +7

      That was funny..... yesterday. Haha

    • @TwoStacks217
      @TwoStacks217 4 года назад +7

      He could probably buy a headphone cord company with the 100 million dollars they are paying him

  • @NaturalHypertrophy
    @NaturalHypertrophy 4 года назад +433

    Social media censorship... Like the type that's pushing Rogan to move his podcast to Spotify?

    • @carlosescobedo6406
      @carlosescobedo6406 4 года назад +66

      Yup, RUclips has recently been censoring many of the things he’s been talking about

    • @strategery101
      @strategery101 4 года назад +53

      Joe “the left has gone crazy but I’m voting democrat anyway” rogan.

    • @Papagiorgio153
      @Papagiorgio153 4 года назад +7

      Obligatory "Dude, I see you everywere!"

    • @RickDeckard2
      @RickDeckard2 4 года назад +8

      Sure it's not the 100 million dollars?

    • @BigSmoke-iw4zo
      @BigSmoke-iw4zo 4 года назад +3

      strategery101 joe complains about high taxes in California meanwhile he’s voting for Bernie

  • @jimmynickelz
    @jimmynickelz 4 года назад +1727

    Spotify promised him a longer headphone cord, and Jamie is gonna have his own Jamie.

    • @royalzak2670
      @royalzak2670 4 года назад +81

      Joe: Jamie pull that up
      Jamie: Baby Jamie pull that up
      Baby Jamie: k

    • @psychedelicmushroompeople
      @psychedelicmushroompeople 4 года назад +7

      I just assumed that RUclips has begun regulating the length of headphone cords; presently, a kangaroo arm's length appears to be ...

    • @somaalchemy1154
      @somaalchemy1154 4 года назад

      @@royalzak2670 spotify is make his clone now lol

    • @TheMasonator777
      @TheMasonator777 4 года назад

      jimmynickelz Art of War, bitches.

    • @tkcaapi2876
      @tkcaapi2876 4 года назад +4

      lol 😆 gold bro! respect 😁
      actually,
      Jamies new Jamie , comes with its own old Brian.

  • @3buzzy
    @3buzzy 3 месяца назад +10

    Pakman reminds me of that guy in high school who had read Howard Zinn and went around spouting the “facts” he had read but had no idea to think for himself.

  • @GrandSupremeDaddyo
    @GrandSupremeDaddyo 4 года назад +1225

    Lol Pakman:
    "Just make your own platform."
    *Creates Platform. It gets banned from Apple & Google app stores*
    "Just make your own app platform."
    *Creates Platform. It gets banned from crowd-funding services.*
    "Just make your own crowd-funding platform."
    *Creates Platform. It gets banned from payment processing services.*
    "Just create your own payment processing platform."
    *Creates Platform. Banks refuse to accept the transactions.*
    We're at this stage now David. Are you going to tell people to build their own banks? At what point short of an entire country's worth of infrastructure are you willing to admit that this is censorship!?

    • @meirellesmeirelles6943
      @meirellesmeirelles6943 4 года назад +39

      This is literally bitcoin, your own bank friend

    • @mantheory6432
      @mantheory6432 4 года назад +33

      Crypto currency and decentralized finance will bring that freedom

    • @swingset1969
      @swingset1969 4 года назад +194

      Pretty simple. David likes the brand of censorship, so he downplays it. Period, end of story.

    • @therealpotheadmedia
      @therealpotheadmedia 4 года назад +14

      @@mantheory6432 there still is a power structure in bitcoin. So it can be man-ipulated.

    • @hapahilo
      @hapahilo 4 года назад +5

      @@therealpotheadmedia true but at least (on-chain) bitcoin manipulation is available for all to see.

  • @torisolomon4455
    @torisolomon4455 4 года назад +804

    I always wrote off the "Flat earth conspiracy" as crazy without looking at it. And then I gave it a chance. And I still think its crazy. And that's how things should go.

    • @brownman248
      @brownman248 4 года назад +45

      I was ready to read a Flat Earth testimony after “ I gave it a chance” lol

    • @notkevindurant8814
      @notkevindurant8814 4 года назад +27

      Hit the hammer right on the head or in Joe Bidens wise words "you know.. That thing" 🤙

    • @calebross8174
      @calebross8174 4 года назад +9

      Hahaha I thought this was going to go the other way.

    • @qigong1001
      @qigong1001 4 года назад +2

      This.

    • @rdklarnet4120
      @rdklarnet4120 4 года назад +5

      Look guts, I actually believe the Flat-earthers...I believe they are Crazy.

  • @DarthQueefious
    @DarthQueefious 4 года назад +157

    One of the problems with removing videos like that Dr. Eriksen one which has flaws in it is that any critique of the video, eg. Brett/Heather Weinstein's, loses its context which means the flaws never get exposed. Censorship doesn't just stop bad or flawed ideas it stops good rebuttals. Basically it erases the chance of people/society to learn and improve their/its reasoning skills.
    It's no coincidence that censorship-heavy countries lose their creativity and ingenuity.

    • @joethestrat
      @joethestrat 4 года назад +7

      Well said.

    • @fouronesix8294
      @fouronesix8294 4 года назад +3

      Well put! Never thought of it like that

    • @RaveSault
      @RaveSault 4 года назад

      Does that make China a big fat anomaly?

    • @jerryselby7160
      @jerryselby7160 4 года назад +1

      Yes - if you can control the ‘Production of Knowledge’ then you control the people and can determine their destiny..

    • @jerryselby7160
      @jerryselby7160 4 года назад +2

      RaveSault China steal all its creations - they have their foot in every knowledge production system in the west.

  • @nhlombardi6946
    @nhlombardi6946 Год назад +29

    David Pakman reminds me of that hall monitor beta from high school who loved getting kids in trouble

  • @user-tf4ho2uo1e
    @user-tf4ho2uo1e 4 года назад +374

    This is why Joe Rogan is leaving RUclips

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem 4 года назад +18

      Yeah at first I thought his new deal was ridiculous, but this video opened my eyes to his motivation. Takes balls.

    • @Spookykidshow
      @Spookykidshow 4 года назад +18

      @@reinforcedpenisstem Lol it actually took 100 million, also they will be able to play videos on screen on Spotify and not get a copyright

    • @liamjaye4153
      @liamjaye4153 4 года назад +8

      Nothing to do with the £100m then 😂

    • @ben31uk
      @ben31uk 4 года назад +4

      OkLow Spotify is worse than RUclips for censorship. There all big tech

    • @ben31uk
      @ben31uk 4 года назад +3

      OkLow 100 million dollars.

  • @Meni69
    @Meni69 4 года назад +106

    The CDC changed their tune on surface transmission. If a video pointed that out a week ago, RUclips would remove it.

    • @MarioGoatse
      @MarioGoatse 4 года назад +3

      That’s how science works. New information can and should invalidate earlier information if it’s proven to be accurate. RUclips isn’t perfect, but they’ll eventually catch up to the new information.

    • @cadowyn735
      @cadowyn735 4 года назад +1

      They said that it is more likely to be spread person to person. Research proves that the virus can live on cardboard for 24 hours, copper for 4 hours etc.

    • @taylorbarney1772
      @taylorbarney1772 4 года назад

      nagoL no, science isn’t speaking out of your ass. It’s based on empirical evidence and the WHO and CDC have been equating Hypotheses to peer reviewed research. Opinions from top scientists are still opinions until backed by science. You can mock televangelists but blindly believing a person without peer reviewed data is the cult of the blind.

    • @scottwasson
      @scottwasson 4 года назад

      You’re misunderstanding the situation because it’s more complex and nuanced than Masks are 100% / Masks are useless. It’s not binary. All the information is balanced out. Safe to go out, doesn’t mean it’s 100% safe. They never said surfaces were a way the virus spreads easily. And they're not saying it can't be spread that way at all now. They said before it can spread on surfaces. And now theyre saying it doesn't spread easily on surfaces, as we've learned more.

    • @Shawn_White
      @Shawn_White 4 года назад

      The CDC is not the WHO so youtube might still remove it.

  • @ExpiredPants
    @ExpiredPants 4 года назад +281

    "THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONVERSATION" Why is the kickboxing comedian the only one saying this? The general public should be shouting it.

    • @meinking22
      @meinking22 4 года назад +14

      I agree with you but the general public is far too stupid. Give them a spectacle and they will forget everything and cheer you for it.

    • @anshulruhil6414
      @anshulruhil6414 4 года назад +2

      He doesn't kickbox. it's taekwondo & jiu jitsu

    • @bahed1
      @bahed1 4 года назад +6

      Expired- welcome to this topic! It's been talked about, on the right, for decades. Listen to talk radio, watch Fox news, read the Wall Street Journal. Those are a few examples. The ways in which the Left stamps down free thought is frightening!!

    • @ug8903
      @ug8903 4 года назад +4

      Red Pilled people talk about all the time

    • @SnakeyBlakey
      @SnakeyBlakey 4 года назад +2

      @@ug8903 "Red pilled people" Not cringey at all.

  • @logicalrealist3091
    @logicalrealist3091 4 года назад +136

    The moment David Packman realizes he’s defending the actions of the social media companies and not analyzing them.

    • @ARDG89
      @ARDG89 Год назад

      he was always a 100% progressive shill

    • @SimonBellaMondo
      @SimonBellaMondo 10 месяцев назад +1

      He’s suddenly a free market capitalist and anti-regulation when it comes to leftist controlled social media platforms.

    • @HumanHamCube
      @HumanHamCube 2 месяца назад

      That's pakman

  • @ericshuty2564
    @ericshuty2564 4 года назад +1446

    So my question for those who are pro-social media censorship: you think it is a good idea to give multi-national, billion dollar corporations the power to dictate what is seen and heard and what isn't? How is that better than government control? These corporations are more powerful than most of the countries in the world. How is not an obviously bad idea....

    • @Johnny.f.face1
      @Johnny.f.face1 4 года назад +89

      They are powerful because the people we elect are for sale.

    • @agreenone03
      @agreenone03 4 года назад +34

      RUclips isn't a country.

    • @jordanfrancis129
      @jordanfrancis129 4 года назад +189

      @@agreenone03 ... reread bro you're tripping 😂😂

    • @RaveSault
      @RaveSault 4 года назад +25

      "BUT BUT BUT MUH PRIVATE CUMPAHKNEE!!1!"

    • @agreenone03
      @agreenone03 4 года назад +80

      @@jordanfrancis129 i don't need to reread. They aren't a country and shouldn't be treated like one. I find it hilarious that it's the freedom lovers like rogan and his fanbase that are the first ones to suck govt teet to protect them when the big bad corporations do something that doesn't benefit them.

  • @pietrot.8780
    @pietrot.8780 4 года назад +144

    There's a guy from Spotify pulling Joe's headphones off screen

    • @jibrankhantareen7300
      @jibrankhantareen7300 4 года назад +7

      No the wire is stuck under the $100 million cash pile

    • @saadwaheed465
      @saadwaheed465 4 года назад +2

      bruh he is 100 million richer he should have had some better headphones LMAO

    • @angelodedio9318
      @angelodedio9318 4 года назад

      HAHAHA I THOUGHT THE SAME THING.. I SAID SOMEONE IS TRYING TO TELL JOE TO STOP SAYING SMART THINGS HAHA GOOD EYES

    • @briankeogh335
      @briankeogh335 4 года назад

      Jibran Khan Tareen after taxes worst case he’s 50 million richer but 100 million sounds a whole lot nicer

    • @davidjd123
      @davidjd123 4 года назад

      Brian Keogh he got 200 mill actually so he did get 100 mill after taxes

  • @jnthngrntbrln
    @jnthngrntbrln 4 года назад +398

    Current Stress Level: Joe Rogan’s Headphone Cable

    • @Jdalio5
      @Jdalio5 4 года назад

      Spotify announcement... Jamie's fired...no on ee's around to keep joe life in order.

    • @buckethat789
      @buckethat789 4 года назад +3

      Jamie is holding the other end

    • @stevus23
      @stevus23 4 года назад +6

      Underrated comment Hahaha

    • @xray4720
      @xray4720 4 года назад

      Lol

    • @lukedavis4427
      @lukedavis4427 4 года назад

      That's all I can look at right now

  • @GrizzlyTank
    @GrizzlyTank 2 года назад +89

    I was in a FB group that talks about JRE. The admin made a post claiming censorship doesn’t happen on social media and even if it does it’s not a problem. All the replies claimed that censorship os real. So what did the admin do? He censored the replies and banned us from the group. The absolute irony is that he proved himself wrong by doing so.

    • @tmac9938
      @tmac9938 10 месяцев назад

      CIA prob runs that group, in the way Russia owned an entire category of groups (i think a pres candidate)

    • @crypticreality8484
      @crypticreality8484 7 месяцев назад

      Unreal. And they're blind to the irony.
      Reminds me of the "OUR DEMOCRACY" people and then they try to remove Trump from being on the ballot to be DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.

    • @nyChannel09
      @nyChannel09 3 месяца назад

      For you he proved himself wrong...
      For himself, he still won...

    • @lilphilosophy481
      @lilphilosophy481 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@nyChannel09he never won

  • @darko2407
    @darko2407 4 года назад +228

    Packman really tried to legiitmize them pulling the Doctors video, Jesus, what a hack.

    • @claytonmidgett7997
      @claytonmidgett7997 4 года назад +21

      Are you talking about 'Plandemic'? I can't figure out which video of "doctors" we're talking about here. The Plandemic video was laughably fake news.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 4 года назад +32

      Yeah, he's a complete partisan hatchet man, who broadcasts his power fantasies as if he were perfectly right about everything and so he should be in charge. If he ever got near power, he would be very, very dangerous.

    • @Christopher-hy5pu
      @Christopher-hy5pu 4 года назад +16

      I don't think you know what 'devils advocate' means.

    • @Dooger414
      @Dooger414 4 года назад +23

      @@claytonmidgett7997 You didn't watch the video and don't even know what video it is then label it "plandemic" anyway. It was a Computing Forever video with a doctor that has been published and received rewards for her work. It was dealing with Hydroxochloroquin and Zinc treatment that, does not cure, but it linked to positive effects of Corona patients and is u undergoing further testing. This is still in the testing stage and Facebook and RUclips pulled it after an activist at Business Insider openly took credit to mass reporting and even tried getting a quote from the video's creator to misquote for his hit piece he published within 24 hours of the takedown. Do you see an issue with a person posing as a journalist, actively censoring a video to create their own story, where they then misreported on? Do you support that type of corruption?

    • @paulg451
      @paulg451 4 года назад +6

      He's a joke.

  • @nicholasallan9248
    @nicholasallan9248 4 года назад +240

    This conversation needs to be had! Joe Rogan leading the charge.

    • @imafraidicantdothat.9203
      @imafraidicantdothat.9203 4 года назад +1

      Nicholas Allan The simple thing to do would just be bring back the fairness doctrine. If you don’t know what the fairness doctrine is just look it up.

    • @The_Drifter79
      @The_Drifter79 4 года назад +3

      Here we go bunch of Joe Rogan nut hangers

    • @KorDawg91
      @KorDawg91 4 года назад +4

      ZACHARY FEILBACH why you even here?

    • @Defia1
      @Defia1 4 года назад +1

      ZACHARY FEILBACH you must be his foreskin then ? Discarded at birth 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @xPadge112x
      @xPadge112x 4 года назад +1

      It needed to be had a long time before this. This will achieve nothing at this point. If anything it explains why he's leaving. RUclips is Google. It couldn't give a fuck. We've checked box our freedoms away slowly.

  • @paulwall2891
    @paulwall2891 4 года назад +206

    We don’t need to find who’s right, we need to find the truth

    • @hongobongo8069
      @hongobongo8069 4 года назад +16

      The truth is being censored because it dissents the narrative that social media pushex

    • @_danvasco
      @_danvasco 4 года назад +5

      Preech Mcott

    • @REG3305
      @REG3305 4 года назад +7

      Problem is when you have a whole group of people saying that I can be born a man with a penis, choose to be a woman the next hour, then choose to be a man the next hour, and then choose to be a f****** deer an hour after that, one side of this equation has gotten completely away from any sense of Truth.

    • @borutopicks2076
      @borutopicks2076 4 года назад +2

      if u want truth, u cant censore..because u only be expose by one side, insted of seing both sides and make up your mind which one is giving truth.

    • @kedabro1957
      @kedabro1957 4 года назад +5

      @@REG3305
      The consequences of that on your life are nil. So stop having an opinion about it.

  • @pamelapamper
    @pamelapamper 6 месяцев назад +24

    It's funny how if u search Joe Rogan David Pakman on RUclips all the results u get are from David's channel and u have to scroll way down to find JR videos even though obviously JR is waaay more popular and has more subscribers and views

    • @Shmojo710
      @Shmojo710 2 месяца назад

      What

    • @Loutliquor
      @Loutliquor Месяц назад +1

      I actually got the complete opposite and had to scroll through a list of jre clips videos before I saw Pakmans uploads. Weird

    • @pamelapamper
      @pamelapamper Месяц назад

      @@Loutliquor liar

  • @shanerodgers9291
    @shanerodgers9291 4 года назад +1134

    If you are “always” in agreement with one side or the other, then you need to re-evaluate how much of your thinking is your own.

    • @cadenlorenzo3345
      @cadenlorenzo3345 4 года назад +66

      Exactly. This is why I think our political polarization is bad for thought. People who share some ideas with the left or the right are pressured to share all their ideas for fear of being attacked for their opinions.

    • @sgunt1464
      @sgunt1464 4 года назад

      Op kink

    • @sgunt1464
      @sgunt1464 4 года назад +1

      Liberty Or Death I job no koi oil I look i I oio o juju juju in up for me h

    • @jonathanblaze1648
      @jonathanblaze1648 4 года назад +9

      Then you are Joe Rogan.

    • @lukazupie7220
      @lukazupie7220 4 года назад

      David spoke against muslims tho:)

  • @DavidRyan.
    @DavidRyan. 4 года назад +1450

    “Political correctness is just fascism disguised as politeness”-George Carlin

    • @mosheenslavethefilthygoyim983
      @mosheenslavethefilthygoyim983 4 года назад +13

      Why do people like you like to call j3wish leftists "fascist"?

    • @sefp
      @sefp 4 года назад +18

      David Ryan you prefer nazism too political correctness? Lol

    • @wardogMMA
      @wardogMMA 4 года назад +6

      RUclips recently removed a video with more than 1M views in 2 days on UFOs with crowd sourced videos from channel named PRAVEEN MOHAN. Its crazy how they do it...

    • @MrGOTAMA420
      @MrGOTAMA420 4 года назад

      oh! your busted!

    • @gravyd316
      @gravyd316 4 года назад +2

      @@mosheenslavethefilthygoyim983 because 9 out of 10 time's it's true. If you can't figure that out then you're in for a long haul.

  • @yusufcagowayne1990
    @yusufcagowayne1990 4 года назад +113

    - Moves to Texas to escape California's policies
    - Vote for the same exact policies in Taxes or any red states

    • @crzxm
      @crzxm 4 года назад +2

      Here in South Texas, most are very similar to Cali but they don't vote. I like Texas as a red state but I'd like it more with marijuana legalization.

    • @alfbeef5880
      @alfbeef5880 4 года назад +1

      While all the Greenie Weenies and leftist move out of California conservatives are going to move back and take back there state..

    • @Blade12323
      @Blade12323 4 года назад

      He's gunna move to a liberal city, not some backwards ass city

    • @jppalm3944
      @jppalm3944 4 года назад

      Like Colorado

    • @heidi7151
      @heidi7151 4 года назад +1

      Joe's not moving to Texas. Celebs aren't flying to Texas to do the show.

  • @ThePhil737
    @ThePhil737 2 года назад +9

    The planned parenthood videos mentioned at 17:14 were not “dramatically dishonest.” All succeeding claims and allegations were proven during their investigation. The people who made those videos got in trouble for “trespassing” and filming without mutual consent. Hundreds of hours of raw footage were posted along with the edited ones. Check it out for yourselves.

  • @ivanzabala7549
    @ivanzabala7549 4 года назад +330

    Rogan totally going to war with RUclips as he tells us he’s NOT going to war with RUclips 😂😂😂

    • @barebasics
      @barebasics 4 года назад +18

      He’s doesn’t care anymore that 100 million plus he’s getting from Spotify has got him feeling brave

    • @M3LT666
      @M3LT666 4 года назад +15

      Alex Jones

    • @chiuansheng
      @chiuansheng 4 года назад +7

      the art of war!
      All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable.

    • @aim4dabush891
      @aim4dabush891 4 года назад +3

      He's not going to war with RUclips he is just saying that it isn't fair that someone sits there and decides who can post a video or not. He just wants it to be fair across the board.

    • @06kaprice
      @06kaprice 4 года назад +1

      He's such a safe guy huh

  • @studio3js196
    @studio3js196 4 года назад +71

    David pakman really made me lose faith when he started pushing the vote blue no matter stuff. Gives off those AOC vibes.

    • @strategery101
      @strategery101 4 года назад +19

      He is a democrat shill. He just want them to have more power no matter what. No real principles

    • @dlv444
      @dlv444 4 года назад +12

      Jimmy Dore has turned himself into someone worth listening to. David doesn't seem able to make the same leap.

    • @torjones-7
      @torjones-7 4 года назад

      @@dlv444 On point.

    • @beatnickPL
      @beatnickPL 4 года назад +1

      Exactly it's called intellectual dishonesty

    • @beatnickPL
      @beatnickPL 4 года назад

      @@dlv444 Exactly, I would also also Kyle Kuklinski still keeping it real not buying Dems corporate propaganda.

  • @super117knight
    @super117knight 4 года назад +285

    We just need another youtube
    But like old youtube
    Where u just find everything

    • @stokesseegers5012
      @stokesseegers5012 4 года назад +31

      I remember when RUclips literally had two pages of videos. I watched every video on RUclips one afternoon. I uploaded a video to RUclips before there was a million videos on RUclips. I hate RUclips now, if something comes along tomorrow that's even close to the original RUclips, I will walk away from RUclips and never look back.

    • @imtiyangerlkr9341
      @imtiyangerlkr9341 4 года назад +23

      You can't find sht on RUclips these days.You can't even find by the typing the name of the channel you are looking for if the channel is "controversial".I literally had to copy link a video from my browser to find it on youtube.

    • @alfonsoprado2884
      @alfonsoprado2884 4 года назад +10

      .. now you can't even see everyone's comments..

    • @hateyouifyoukillme
      @hateyouifyoukillme 4 года назад +7

      Google got big because it just seemed to know what you were looking for. You would type "that bald guy with a large podcast" and you'd find Joe Rogan. That exceptional technical quality has made them really good at hiding things, so now even if you search something like Steven Crowder change my mind you might not find it.

    • @Onishiro
      @Onishiro 4 года назад +12

      B I T C H U T E
      It's growing in popularity and most youtubers use it as a mirror, with some making exclusive videos there. All it really needs is a theater mode, live streaming (coming soon), and more bigger youtubers to make it their primary platform.

  • @Don-ej7co
    @Don-ej7co 5 месяцев назад +8

    Rogan you are too smart and precious to devote your time to this guy.

  • @wbigbenw2213
    @wbigbenw2213 4 года назад +222

    joe with that hundred mil maybe invest in headphones with a longer cord.

  • @TheDreno33
    @TheDreno33 4 года назад +559

    The real MVP here is Joe's headphone cable.
    What a trooper.

    • @usamazahid5641
      @usamazahid5641 4 года назад +1

      Damn I was too much in to conversation I can't see anything

    • @craigbuchan
      @craigbuchan 4 года назад +4

      definitely not made in china!

    • @Dan-mm1yl
      @Dan-mm1yl 4 года назад +6

      😂😂😂 Joe probably woke up with neck ache the next dsy and wondered why

    • @SuperGorilla68
      @SuperGorilla68 3 года назад +1

      Yeah that’s exactly what you should be thinking of. 😂

  • @lanhamjr
    @lanhamjr 4 года назад +217

    So frustrating and glad Joe called the guest on his use of the term "disinformation" - who gets to make that judgment? We do not need nanny's deciding what we can see/read.

    • @imafraidicantdothat.9203
      @imafraidicantdothat.9203 4 года назад +5

      Dr Rick The best thing to do is bring back the fairness doctrine. If you don’t know what that is just look it up

    • @Baghuul
      @Baghuul 4 года назад +35

      David pakman is a disingenuous hypocrite.

    • @kevinparsley6806
      @kevinparsley6806 4 года назад +4

      op - joe didnt do anything like you described here. joe clearly felt there was such a thing as disinformation, but made it clear that those doctors werent cases of it. again, leagues from what you wrote about here.

    • @requix11
      @requix11 4 года назад +5

      That's what I'm saying. Unpopular opinions is NOT disinformation. That's dangerous and I'm glad Joe clarified that on air.

    • @burtmaclin553
      @burtmaclin553 4 года назад +3

      @@halfeatenwaffle3 dude you've probably never touched a woman

  • @Kfregeau29
    @Kfregeau29 3 года назад +42

    I really like the exchange of ideas here. I wish we could replicate this civility in everyday online interactions.

    • @soh_show669
      @soh_show669 2 года назад

      @Mike H up until his recent videos

    • @GabiN64
      @GabiN64 2 года назад

      Debates still happen lmao

    • @jamesregiste960
      @jamesregiste960 Год назад

      But Rohan is still repeating the rights ,"Censorship" Bullshit!

    • @notbrucewayne4235
      @notbrucewayne4235 Год назад

      None of their views are extreme opposites from each other, both of them are more on less in a similar position on the political spectrum.

  • @johnbee4557
    @johnbee4557 4 года назад +125

    david parkman is a liar. i used to watched his podcast regularly but than he started going left and saying censoring is a great thing 🤦🏽‍♂️ he disappointed me significantly

    • @adamsmith-sm8lh
      @adamsmith-sm8lh 4 года назад +17

      You think he is a liar cause you disagree with what he has to say. The problem with left or right wing politics.

    • @boofert.washington2499
      @boofert.washington2499 4 года назад +44

      @@adamsmith-sm8lh I think he is liar bc he passes off opinions as fact. That's not how any of this works.

    • @kravvormagagor9595
      @kravvormagagor9595 4 года назад +23

      He's very hard to even watch. He's knowingly and intentionally dishonest. plus if his eyes were any closer they be touching which makes it hard to look at him anyways.

    • @kravvormagagor9595
      @kravvormagagor9595 4 года назад +12

      @@adamsmith-sm8lh no he thinks he's lying because the things he's saying aren't true. There's nothing partisan about that

    • @jerryselby7160
      @jerryselby7160 4 года назад +3

      Survival ,. If you are ambitious but not principled enough or creative enough - you capitulate

  • @aceofwizardsnephelite829
    @aceofwizardsnephelite829 4 года назад +50

    "But...my side is in control of the censorship"

  • @RadicalNuance
    @RadicalNuance 4 года назад +96

    $100M deal but no headset extension cord

  • @cuposooth4820
    @cuposooth4820 3 года назад +5

    8:20 So he's making the argument that that Conservatives want a regulation against infringement against their rights, but don't want regulations that infringe on their rights. And he is calling that hypocritical. Talk about cyclical leftist logic.

    • @GenXDaddyO
      @GenXDaddyO 2 года назад +3

      No, he’s making the argument that it’s hypocritical of conservatives when they say baker’s ought to be able to decide who they will and will not make a wedding cake for, but then demand that the government force Twitter/RUclips/Facebook to accept any and all content.

    • @cuposooth4820
      @cuposooth4820 2 года назад

      @@GenXDaddyO The government is directing and subsidizing censorship, after privatizing the public square. So, no. It's not.

    • @L.I.2RVA
      @L.I.2RVA 2 года назад

      @@GenXDaddyO 👍🏽💯🔥

    • @user-he8rl4sm3k
      @user-he8rl4sm3k 2 года назад

      @@GenXDaddyO because these platforms apparently claim they're a public utility but don't want to be treated like one

  • @vanessaspeaks
    @vanessaspeaks 4 года назад +42

    28:26 You do have a right to speak at a school if it’s a public school and you’re invited by a student. That’s why instead of trying to ban them, they’ve shifted to charging the speaker outrageous fees for “security” in order to prevent them from speaking.

    • @landonic81
      @landonic81 4 года назад +4

      I wanna have your baby

  • @ThatDanishGuy
    @ThatDanishGuy 4 года назад +763

    Joe: Taking videos down, with different views, is a bad idea
    RUclips: We must censor our biggest podcaster so he doesn't say stuff like that again
    **Joe flashes new $100 mill contract with Spotify**
    RUclips: What have we done...

    • @mj-og7zg
      @mj-og7zg 4 года назад +35

      Tee Aye that’s the same thing. Demonetize things they don’t want talked about so joe rogan loses money.

    • @ThatDanishGuy
      @ThatDanishGuy 4 года назад +4

      I have a new channel guys and a sub would be hugely appreciated :)

    • @ThatDanishGuy
      @ThatDanishGuy 4 года назад +22

      @@MrTeeAye If you build your career as a youtuber and then from one day to the next get demonetized, that's almost as good as censorship.
      Direct censorship would be you saying something that YT finds politically incorrect. Something about transgenders come to mind as a reason for YT censorship in the past.
      YT has a preference when it comes to videos they promote. Go to any independent news show on YT and check out the "next up" recommended video. They aren't from that channel, they're always from Fox, CNN, MSNBC or the like.
      Just did a video about it on my channel :)

    • @ThatDanishGuy
      @ThatDanishGuy 4 года назад +1

      @@mj-og7zg Yea that's what I was thinking too

    • @ThatDanishGuy
      @ThatDanishGuy 4 года назад +1

      @sweeney 1 Haha that I was :)

  • @DaBxprince83
    @DaBxprince83 4 года назад +234

    I hope you enter Spotify flexing hard, nothing holding you back from being the Joe we all knew 6 or 7 years ago

    • @legion24100
      @legion24100 4 года назад +17

      Well he's obviously evolved but i see your point

    • @africaart
      @africaart 4 года назад +3

      Amen to that.

    • @crzxm
      @crzxm 4 года назад

      @@legion24100 I was about to say that.

    • @NewsYourViews
      @NewsYourViews 4 года назад +8

      No corporation will let it be unsensored... Spotify can lose board members whenever...

    • @bradsully6620
      @bradsully6620 4 года назад +3

      @@NewsYourViews I agree. I think hes going to hold back more..

  • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
    @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 Год назад +3

    i'm baffled at how pakman has close to 2 mil subs. his haircut alone should repel people

    • @nativedan
      @nativedan 3 месяца назад

      I imagine one of the reasons he’s got such a high subscription rate is because he doesn’t sound like a shallow idiot as some people.

    • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
      @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 3 месяца назад

      @@nativedan oh i've listened to enough of his horse manure to know

  • @DJMixxwell
    @DJMixxwell 4 года назад +158

    I love how he’s going at RUclips after his contract with Spotify went public 😂👌🏻

    • @CJL7777
      @CJL7777 4 года назад +9

      Burning the house down

    • @kimurarc7245
      @kimurarc7245 4 года назад +10

      And posting it on RUclips 😂😂

    • @mrnigga3429
      @mrnigga3429 4 года назад +19

      He’s been publicly against RUclips’s censorship ever since they took down the video of the two doctors

    • @qarcon3247
      @qarcon3247 4 года назад +2

      @@mrnigga3429 exactly Rogan has been saying RUclips is shit for years. But everyone is still whining why he shouldn't leave RUclips

    • @DJMixxwell
      @DJMixxwell 4 года назад

      cashh_fetishh Defiantly! But now it just seems different because there’s absolute no fucks given now. Before young Jamie would maybe stop him or joe would stop himself on certain things, videos and audio being played or said. It could be just me 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

  • @rickrouse7865
    @rickrouse7865 4 года назад +142

    RUclips: "What do I have to do not to get banned?"
    Spotify: "Welcome to Spotify how can we help you?"

    • @BlyGuy
      @BlyGuy 4 года назад +2

      Liking for your fat Sal pic. Considering the many mutual friends, I am really surprised none of the Jokers have ever been invited on the JRE, particularly Sal and Quinn.

    • @rickrouse7865
      @rickrouse7865 4 года назад +2

      @@BlyGuy fat sal is a meme we will never let die. everywhere you go there shall be a fat sal waiting for you.

    • @yakojjy
      @yakojjy 4 года назад +4

      Spotify will be there soon enough. They're in the early days of what youtube was. Once they get enough investors and advertisers they'll be beholden to the same market forces.

    • @rawereawera
      @rawereawera 4 года назад +2

      @@yakojjy not necessarily. Spotify's revenue is like 80% from subscribers where RUclips is almost entirely advertisements. They can afford to be more customer focused where RUclips has to adhere to the advertising company's/narrative. Plus spotify isn't a US based company (Swedish I think?) and news coverage in the European countries is held to a different and higher standard than in the US.

    • @kenea3226
      @kenea3226 4 года назад

      @@yakojjy Yep.

  • @jimboslice450
    @jimboslice450 4 года назад +172

    All censorship is bad. End of story

    • @crzxm
      @crzxm 4 года назад +4

      I agree.

    • @Fanectric
      @Fanectric 4 года назад

      Hear hear

    • @wuziwu8148
      @wuziwu8148 4 года назад +11

      Hate crimes/speech is bad,
      Pro terrorism is bad,
      Propaganda is bad (and deceitful).

    • @milkmaster87
      @milkmaster87 4 года назад +12

      Child pron?

    • @keto3883
      @keto3883 4 года назад +3

      it s not though. It s just impossible to draw a clear line and the who wantsa to be in in charge is probably the wrong person :-) ... not censoring is the best solution we have.

  • @paulmoulton7248
    @paulmoulton7248 2 года назад +10

    Seeing this after 2 years is interesting. What was banned in May 2020 turned out to be correct.

    • @malachigrindle7063
      @malachigrindle7063 Год назад +1

      The conspiracy theorists are always right

    • @thetruthfromthefuture
      @thetruthfromthefuture Месяц назад

      Like what? What was true????

    • @paulmoulton7248
      @paulmoulton7248 Месяц назад

      @@thetruthfromthefuture Right out of the gate, in May 2020 a RUclipsr (Peal Prosperity) identified, through a scientific paper, that Covid came from lab. I knew it then and watched the Narrative lie consistently from there. Once you see, you can't unsee.

    • @thetruthfromthefuture
      @thetruthfromthefuture Месяц назад

      @@paulmoulton7248 A RUclipsr??? Yikes. Stop forming your world view from RUclips. It's melting your brain.

    • @paulmoulton7248
      @paulmoulton7248 Месяц назад

      @@thetruthfromthefuture Ahh, so you still believe the news. Do you still it came from the wet market?

  • @JoeRobertsPersonalpage
    @JoeRobertsPersonalpage 4 года назад +106

    Sounds like old uncensored Joe is getting ready for Spotify...

    • @oldmanwinter3597
      @oldmanwinter3597 4 года назад +5

      Spotify has a "Strategic Partnership" with Tencent, who are basically the Chinese communist party. Joe has sold himself into censorship.

    • @morimoko
      @morimoko 4 года назад +1

      @@oldmanwinter3597 ffs we keep catchin Ls all damn fuckin day.

    • @nightcrawler8534
      @nightcrawler8534 4 года назад

      @@oldmanwinter3597 i think tencent is the strategic partner of spotify only in china...maybe i am wrong.

    • @gnielsen07
      @gnielsen07 4 года назад

      OldManWinter that same Tencent has invested millions into Reddit. Makes sense

  • @Vmh1717
    @Vmh1717 4 года назад +152

    It blows my mind that the only guy with any common sense when it comes to politics and cultural issues is some mma comedians.

    • @elderrusty541
      @elderrusty541 4 года назад +6

      Yeah but it’s funny how someone who’s actually open minded and listens to other sides and will debate people is “faking” or “flip flopping”

    • @elderrusty541
      @elderrusty541 4 года назад +1

      North Georgia no one here said anything like that

  • @commanderbarbie2550
    @commanderbarbie2550 4 года назад +93

    He’s not playing devil’s advocate he’s playing liberal advocate.

    • @Intelligent0redneck
      @Intelligent0redneck 4 года назад +2

      tomayto tomahto

    • @quinnsack
      @quinnsack 4 года назад

      It frustrates me that a a scientific illiterate asshole is making clames on the covid out break.....

    • @raiden031
      @raiden031 4 года назад

      @Spoon Clank social media platforms aren't being regulated by governments, it's their own leadership that is creating the rules

    • @beatnickPL
      @beatnickPL 4 года назад

      Is there a difference?

    • @diazfamily83108
      @diazfamily83108 4 года назад

      Kind of sounds like he's taking the free market approach. Rogan sounds like he's taking the liberal, socialism stance.

  • @sandyunderpants4376
    @sandyunderpants4376 2 года назад +1

    Has Joe or anybody mentioned the fact that the J&J vaccine that the FDA and media kept saying is totally safe and effective has been discontinued and the FDA says to take another vaccine instead because it's actually more harmful than they originally thought? I think that's something important to talk about.

  • @ireckon7351
    @ireckon7351 4 года назад +158

    This guy is the epitome of a weasel.

    • @xsabirx
      @xsabirx 4 года назад +2

      They’re both weasels

    • @BaronSaturday66
      @BaronSaturday66 4 года назад +11

      @@aarondavid826 Because Pakman will dismiss any and all conspiracies.... all in favor of the establishment. He is very much a shill.

    • @benny360
      @benny360 4 года назад +6

      Baron Saturday well most conspiracy theories are BS.

    • @CeeBarrio1
      @CeeBarrio1 4 года назад

      Gargoyle

    • @deepseathriver6400
      @deepseathriver6400 4 года назад +2

      We can already see the sheeple/effects of the left rewriting history online lol its crazyyyy and its only going to get worse

  • @alexanderlee6010
    @alexanderlee6010 4 года назад +115

    Joe: “you have to be a moron to think the earth is hollow”
    Eddie bravo has entered the chat:

    • @apache8795
      @apache8795 4 года назад +2

      Six moon landings

    • @brownman248
      @brownman248 4 года назад +3

      I wonder if Eddie ever gets offended when Joe mentions flat earth with other interviews

    • @maciej214
      @maciej214 4 года назад +1

      It's a fish eyed lense bro!

    • @Bootieblastin
      @Bootieblastin 4 года назад

      Look into it

    • @BentReality.369
      @BentReality.369 4 года назад

      The earths isn't hollow!!!???
      Then why are they so many manholes covers?Tell me people "Why"@!!!!! And yes there aliens under them you can hear them hissing and splashing.

  • @jameskarl8736
    @jameskarl8736 4 года назад +116

    This dude is literally a democrat talking point he isn’t objective

    • @jasoneves140
      @jasoneves140 4 года назад +6

      Wow! Your smart aren’t you? Yes he is literally a Progressive Democrat and has always argued for Progressive Policies. Jesus Christ what do you say when you see Charlie Kirk or Dave Rubin on a podcast?

    • @joethestrat
      @joethestrat 4 года назад +4

      Yeah, he is lmao.

    • @VODZ
      @VODZ 4 года назад +9

      @@jasoneves140 I think you can be a progressive and still be able to find fault with the DNC, i think what James is saying is that David is a sock puppet. Now what hole does the hand go up?

    • @miterbenisdurty3862
      @miterbenisdurty3862 4 года назад +3

      @@jasoneves140 triggered

    • @StringSlingerSix
      @StringSlingerSix 4 года назад +1

      Jason Eves don’t use the word “smart” if you don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re”

  • @jablamo
    @jablamo 4 года назад +32

    did Joe ever let packman say anything?

    • @theletterm1787
      @theletterm1787 3 года назад +4

      No

    • @marcodenuzzio441
      @marcodenuzzio441 3 года назад +31

      Yes unfortunately

    • @That.One.Guy.66
      @That.One.Guy.66 3 года назад +2

      It's his show. If Joe was on Packman's show he'd let him talk more. If you watch enough Podcasts you'll notice this mostly consistent trend.

    • @jablamo
      @jablamo 3 года назад +5

      @@That.One.Guy.66 So hosts do all the talking while guests sit there and listen? You must be a producer?

    • @That.One.Guy.66
      @That.One.Guy.66 3 года назад +3

      @@jablamo Nope. That's not what I said. It's called respect. If you watch enough Podcasts you'll see there are unwritten rules. Besides Joe Rogan never claimed to be perfect or even a professional at conversating.....but he must be pretty good at it.

  • @scrout
    @scrout 4 года назад +141

    Joe "my headphone cord is too short" Rogan

    • @scrout
      @scrout 4 года назад +12

      Joe "I feel like I am on a short leash" Rogan

    •  4 года назад +7

      It bothers me soooo much

    •  4 года назад +3

      Ill start a petition for him to switch to bluetooth

    • @ethanniedorowski6020
      @ethanniedorowski6020 4 года назад +1

      It's on a pull cord ... so it dosen't get in his way

    • @rickskaggz4485
      @rickskaggz4485 4 года назад

      Jesus Christ..I'm dead right now lol

  • @randomninja
    @randomninja 4 года назад +305

    It's 2020 and Joe Rogan is the voice of reason, and I'm ok with that.

    • @Z3phlar
      @Z3phlar 4 года назад +11

      He's literally always been since his podcast started.

    • @sardjentpepper8897
      @sardjentpepper8897 4 года назад +6

      @@Z3phlar he really has always been very based and reasonable

    • @MrCarpediem6
      @MrCarpediem6 4 года назад +1

      who would have thought.. who would've thought.

    • @iamLODD
      @iamLODD 4 года назад +3

      Bush allowed 9/11 to happen

    • @chrishernandez2771
      @chrishernandez2771 4 года назад +2

      He can express himself honestly and that’s hard to do for probably most of us I’m thinking

  • @jameylbj
    @jameylbj 4 года назад +62

    Alex Jones gonna be joe’s first guest

    • @katiemccreath7751
      @katiemccreath7751 4 года назад

      According to Alex Jones...

    • @Slayer8957
      @Slayer8957 4 года назад +2

      Alex jones is banned on spotify too tho...

    • @spinofthewheel5345
      @spinofthewheel5345 4 года назад

      Musk is a puppet

    • @jameylbj
      @jameylbj 4 года назад +1

      Slayer8957 go to timcast irl Joe said Alex gonna be the first one then Elon

  • @CrayolaCoffeeBean
    @CrayolaCoffeeBean 4 года назад +16

    I love this conversation! Great points made

  • @faceless_lurker
    @faceless_lurker 4 года назад +69

    he immediately categorized it as "disinformation"....

    • @deepseathriver6400
      @deepseathriver6400 4 года назад +16

      That's how they get programmed. They just regurgitate on demand

    • @toddr2265
      @toddr2265 4 года назад +5

      He said on the outset, "Let me play devils advocate"

  • @telix5000
    @telix5000 4 года назад +81

    David Pakman looks like a guy from the 90's working at Blockbuster Video who really wants you to rent some indie movie you never heard of because he yearns to make any social contact where he's got some knowledge to share with you.

    •  4 года назад +1

      hahahah

    • @Newbport849
      @Newbport849 4 года назад +3

      Damn, that was good

    • @PatrickMHoey
      @PatrickMHoey 4 года назад +3

      But just really wants to smugly namedrop half a dozen arthouse directors that “you’ve probably never heard of”.

    • @anonnymous9586
      @anonnymous9586 4 года назад +2

      Oddly specific

    • @moonboogien8908
      @moonboogien8908 4 года назад +1

      "You ever watch cronenberg, bro?"
      "Yeah man, naked lunch will blow your mind!"

  • @TheTurdballs420
    @TheTurdballs420 4 года назад +191

    Something tells me RUclips is going to miss Joe and all the income he was generating for them. Hopefully this is the start of a mass exodus

    • @miterbenisdurty3862
      @miterbenisdurty3862 4 года назад +39

      RUclips will become MySpace. And then change its name to Mysafespace.

    • @jerryselby7160
      @jerryselby7160 4 года назад +8

      Not really - they will simply go after Spotify with a vengeance - they must protect their monopoly - this is only the start of another war..

    • @jacks1bonnielass
      @jacks1bonnielass 4 года назад +14

      ralphy 36
      Spotify has been gaining insane momentum.
      Since they’ve been slowly implementing videos to their platform, they will absolutely become a top competitor of YTs. When Joe leaves, I guarantee there will be other creators who will follow out of principle & bc of just being tired of YT not giving a crap about its creators.
      Spotify is the #1 music & podcast streaming platform in the WORLD now & since they’ve been adding video? Give them 5 more years.
      RUclips has been a sinking ship since 2016.
      Maybe you don’t realize just how bad demonetization & censorship has become here, along w/the implementation of a completely r3tarded ToS,
      which is why truckloads of creators are uploading to other platforms, with some leaving permanently.
      I’ve learned to never say never.
      YT is without a doubt on the decline & will eventually become a platform that’s 90% celebrities, late night talk shows & makeup artists. The writing has been on the wall. They’ve been trying to chase out regular creators for awhile now since they want the whole pie of hosting network & cable tv shows.
      Give it time.
      The ‘You’ in RUclips has BEEN LONG dead & once they make their final transition into just another hosting service for Hollywood, audiences will leave en masse since the vast majority of us DO NOT come here for celebrities.
      We come here for regular people, with Rogan being the only exception (for me anyway), bc I don’t watch anyone else who could be deemed as a celebrity.

    • @buntings
      @buntings 4 года назад +2

      @ralphy 36 There have been so many youtubes. If spotify opens a video section where any user can upload, it's going to take off.

    • @WhyFacetattoos
      @WhyFacetattoos 4 года назад +1

      Considering I watch every podcast and that's about it I'll barely use it after Joe is gone.

  • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
    @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 3 года назад +10

    17:30 .. Wowww.
    -David Pakman makes an assertion about why he doesn’t trust Project Veritas
    -He cites “something that happened years ago”.
    -When mildly questioned about that alleged incident, he provides no factual information to back up why he feels the way he does.
    I wish Joe would have pressed him harder on that.. bc that interaction is this interview’s Bari Weiss “Assad toady” moment.

    • @chrisbrownlov1
      @chrisbrownlov1 3 года назад +1

      He doesn't watch their stuff because they were dishonest..yet in his show he constantly uses sources that consistently report dishonestly

    • @5atoru
      @5atoru 3 года назад +4

      Project Veritas is a scam and bullshit

    • @EricK-td9eh
      @EricK-td9eh 2 года назад

      Pakman is a weak beta!

    • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
      @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 2 года назад

      @@5atoru Sure it is

  • @RuthlessMenace
    @RuthlessMenace 4 года назад +83

    This video was demonetized. Admit it Joe. You’re telling RUclips to shove it. Rightfully so.

    • @brrr8963
      @brrr8963 4 года назад +1

      Relax, incel

    • @RetroRecounts
      @RetroRecounts 4 года назад +1

      How do you know it was demonetized?

    • @rryan5888
      @rryan5888 4 года назад +1

      @vbg 348 you think way too small

    • @Iamnickdude09
      @Iamnickdude09 4 года назад

      vbg 348 Schaub said that number is way off. From the way he was speaking it seems like Rogan is making a much bigger number than that.

    • @Sir.VicsMasher
      @Sir.VicsMasher 4 года назад

      If Joe was doing that than he would have invited Covid 19 doctors that are questioning the narrative instead of bending the knee. Joe has the power to blow this wide open but he's been avoiding it.

  • @bradcarpenter1881
    @bradcarpenter1881 4 года назад +88

    How about NO ONE determines or censors what they believe we need to believe or think, or who to vote for, what the hell happened to the belief of free thought and healthy debate?!

    • @vincentchase9534
      @vincentchase9534 4 года назад +8

      Political correctness and extremely left leaning media happened.

    • @juangouveia8098
      @juangouveia8098 4 года назад +4

      yes, so easy. the solution is just to do nothing. dont censor anything. people can decide for themselves

    • @paulwall2891
      @paulwall2891 4 года назад

      Exactly

    • @Tyson2busy
      @Tyson2busy 4 года назад +5

      Leftist fear debate,...because reason and logic are not as important to them as feelings and ideology.

    • @travisbiles1801
      @travisbiles1801 4 года назад +1

      If you do not conform, you are viewed as an invalid and burden to the State.

  • @alexanderhamilton9685
    @alexanderhamilton9685 4 года назад +78

    I vote you get Ben Shapiro and David Pakman to debate with Joe as the moderator.

    • @TheNewFitness
      @TheNewFitness 4 года назад +4

      Seconded

    • @Davidhussey8917
      @Davidhussey8917 4 года назад +8

      Thay have debated once on gun control.

    • @TpolTime
      @TpolTime 4 года назад +3

      Wouldn’t be fair but would be great to watch!

    • @mwcool87
      @mwcool87 4 года назад +2

      I'd love to see that! Pakman debated Shapiro years ago, it was a very civil discussion.

    • @BBpoopin
      @BBpoopin 4 года назад +2

      @Noah Minteer packman has no arguments? compared to ben "my wife is a doctor and also i talk really fast at college kids" shapiro. THAT ben? the ben that huffed and puffed when a conservative asked him tough questions, who he then accused of being a leftist? THAT ben?

  • @bakusbakul4327
    @bakusbakul4327 Год назад +32

    David Packman’s takes have aged incredibly well 😆

    • @muttsnuts5849
      @muttsnuts5849 Год назад +27

      I know, complete fool

    • @undercoveragent9889
      @undercoveragent9889 Год назад +2

      03:30 directly contradicts you. The videos Pakman wants banned were right about children. Funny how both he and Joe agree that we shouldn't be concerned about child-protection in case someone gets protective over actual children.

    • @stivosimz
      @stivosimz Год назад +10

      His viewpoints have actually aged horribly.

    • @psychonautpupildiallater7734
      @psychonautpupildiallater7734 Год назад

      He’s still pushing the bullshit narrative.
      He’s a disingenuous clown🤡

    • @psychonautpupildiallater7734
      @psychonautpupildiallater7734 Год назад +1

      @@stivosimz 😉👍checks out!

  • @streglof
    @streglof 4 года назад +238

    might as well say:
    "why don't they just build their own telephone company"
    "why don't they just start their own banking system"

    • @shiftgood
      @shiftgood 4 года назад +13

      Horrible analogy. Uploading a video on a website is infinitely easier than building a telephone company.

    • @djackson4605
      @djackson4605 4 года назад +13

      @@shiftgood still illogical stance. Its when right wing people say if you don't like America just leave... Isn't that ignorant and bizarre? There's no point to alienating anyone, or censoring anyone. We could just accept people are different and that's ok?

    • @jarent2652
      @jarent2652 4 года назад +13

      @@shiftgood there is vimeo and dailymotion, but they don't pay and that is the reason people dont move to those platforms. It's all about the money, and I wish people would be honest about that

    • @colewalton1340
      @colewalton1340 4 года назад +5

      Starting a multi-billion social media company is no where near comparable to tweeting or uploading a youtube video.

    • @bobkebob9980
      @bobkebob9980 4 года назад +14

      @@shiftgood no it's not. The same people who put pressure on to kick you off RUclips also pressure banks and money processors. Hint they are the same ethnicity as David pakman and Susan wojciki and they also own the payment processor companies, and banks. Look into PayPal and how they kick people off as well as stripe.

  • @MrWingedRanger
    @MrWingedRanger 4 года назад +90

    Joe PLEASE get a longer headphone cable.

    • @catpet9201
      @catpet9201 4 года назад +4

      Hahahah

    • @andys.channel
      @andys.channel 4 года назад +3

      Wow well spotted

    • @Brandon-nz7pd
      @Brandon-nz7pd 4 года назад +1

      Lmao this is great

    • @alexleonee
      @alexleonee 4 года назад +2

      Not many people know this, but Joes headphone cord is actually a leash being held by Susan Wykowski.

    • @BradPitbull
      @BradPitbull 4 года назад +1

      Start a GoFundMe for him
      He cant afford a new cord

  • @wolflinkin
    @wolflinkin 4 года назад +115

    David is disingenuous with his arguments.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 года назад +4

      How, exactly?

    • @sled_dog_gaming3566
      @sled_dog_gaming3566 4 года назад +22

      @@andybaldman well one example is how he told Joe that he agreed with him on freedom of expression, then proceeded to defend censorship. Pretty obvious wouldn't you say? I love people that ask their cute little "gotcha" questions....

    • @ScorpionXII
      @ScorpionXII 4 года назад +12

      @@sled_dog_gaming3566 One can be in favor of free speech while also believing that death threats, slander, libel, defamation, and incitement ought be regulated. Also... David makes clear that he believes social media censorship is a problem, he just correctly believes that social media platforms are private companies, therefore their users are subject to their ToS, no matter how ad hoc they may be. David has proposed a solution... he believes that social media platforms could be regulated as public utilities.

    • @trailersfromhell2539
      @trailersfromhell2539 4 года назад +1

      @@ScorpionXII Funny, that's one of the right wing solutions to solving censorship. Aren't they kind of already regulated as a public utility in the sense that they are seen as a publisher and not a platform, which removes them from legal actions? The other solution would be to have them classified as publishers, so they would be subjected to libel and defamation laws they are currently protected from. That would destroy them.

    • @ScorpionXII
      @ScorpionXII 4 года назад +2

      @@trailersfromhell2539 No... abolishing aspects of private enterprise to ensure social justice is by definition a left wing proposition. The right wing position throughout history on issues like this is... the gay wedding cake argument; which is that Twitter is a private company, therefore they have the right to deny service to those with differing beliefs.

  • @littlejerrythecagefighter1163
    @littlejerrythecagefighter1163 3 года назад +8

    What’s with lefties like Pakman speaking in condescending grade 2 teacher voices?

  • @myasbias7517
    @myasbias7517 4 года назад +232

    Alex Jones: “Joe s going to war against RUclips censorship” Tim pool: “Joe called me it’s fake news” , 24 hours later Joe debates DP on RUclips censorship haha

    • @sniklenave6557
      @sniklenave6557 4 года назад +25

      Joe is just trying to save his ass till he officially makes the move over to Spotify. He wouldn’t go out of his way to allow Alex to report on joe leaving RUclips because of censorship if he actually wasn’t taking a stance to fight this. And he hasn’t stopped talking about tech censorship since this happened... coincidence?

    • @hendryde-lux4287
      @hendryde-lux4287 4 года назад +1

      Garlic Bread!

    • @Justin-bo5pg
      @Justin-bo5pg 4 года назад +5

      Going to war and being against censorship isn't the same thing.

    • @DuckiesDad08
      @DuckiesDad08 4 года назад +1

      Praying no one actually calls this man “DP”.

    • @JFKjr-gp7lf
      @JFKjr-gp7lf 4 года назад +1

      Pool is an idiot

  • @9OrangeKush9
    @9OrangeKush9 4 года назад +312

    This is the type dude who will fight his mother for disrespecting his wife's boyfriend

  • @actionyear
    @actionyear 4 года назад +49

    Spotify is yanking on the headphones already?

    • @IkeOg
      @IkeOg 4 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Shlogger
      @Shlogger 4 года назад

      it's super distracting...lol

  • @G.GordonMidi
    @G.GordonMidi 3 года назад +10

    "herd *mentality* vs. immunizations" LOL

  • @djatlasmusik
    @djatlasmusik 4 года назад +93

    STOP REGULATING PEOPLES SPEECH!! SIMPLE THATS ALL U NEED TO SAY

    • @drgonzo4714
      @drgonzo4714 4 года назад

      It's for your safety. You're welcome.

    • @michaelknight2897
      @michaelknight2897 4 года назад +2

      Agreed, however, yoou dont have to promote it, monitize it, etc.

    • @joelo3527
      @joelo3527 4 года назад

      look, another 4chan

    • @anarchoaristocracy8368
      @anarchoaristocracy8368 4 года назад

      @@michaelknight2897 You shouldn't monetize speech? Should podcasts be illegal?

    • @anarchoaristocracy8368
      @anarchoaristocracy8368 4 года назад +1

      @@drgonzo4714 What danger is there to letting people think for themselves?

  • @justindchaney
    @justindchaney 4 года назад +121

    This guy is openly admitting that he’s going to vote for Joe Biden. I rest my case.

    • @landonic81
      @landonic81 4 года назад +30

      He also pees while sitting down. Sad

    • @grudge7719
      @grudge7719 4 года назад +10

      Listen fat, vote for the other guy... My wife's my sister - Joe Biden

    • @ben31uk
      @ben31uk 4 года назад +14

      Justin Chaney America is totally screwed if Biden wins. Watch out for voter fraud.
      Trump isn't perfect but he's more perfect than old man Biden

    • @ThresholdGaming
      @ThresholdGaming 4 года назад +1

      You don't have a case to be rested...lol

    • @blindeagleace3629
      @blindeagleace3629 4 года назад +3

      @@ben31uk
      You realize Trump votes by mail. Right?

  • @fullthrottlemaxrpm
    @fullthrottlemaxrpm 4 года назад +106

    This guy is so full of BS

    • @johnnyt3707
      @johnnyt3707 4 года назад +4

      Which guy and why/how?
      Do you not agree that you should be able to say whatever you want on RUclips as long as it’s not a call to action.

    • @usa5439
      @usa5439 4 года назад +5

      @@johnnyt3707
      I believe in that and every american should too. Its freedom of speech

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 года назад +9

      I know, Joe is a moron.

    • @lattalover
      @lattalover 4 года назад +1

      @John Smith my man Dave 😂

    • @timgroen1995
      @timgroen1995 4 года назад

      @Odins Spear what does him being jewish have to do with it?

  • @Joseph-yw6rs
    @Joseph-yw6rs 4 года назад +5

    Joe sure is talkative in this one. Kinda wanted to hear more from David.

  • @lennonryan6621
    @lennonryan6621 4 года назад +70

    he dodged the project veratis question by bringing up something negative about them and then changes subject

    • @itcheebeard
      @itcheebeard 4 года назад +16

      And conveniently forgets the details of whatever incident he was using as his argument. Such a hack.

    • @thewinterwoods
      @thewinterwoods 4 года назад +2

      Project Veritas literally just lies and scams organizations and people for a living to try and make liberals look bad. That is all they do, and nothing they do is remotely honest. Look them up on Google.

    • @MichaelCorleone365
      @MichaelCorleone365 4 года назад +10

      “Look it up on google” 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @brians2811
      @brians2811 4 года назад +10

      Nathan Resick you are totally off here. Veritas videos use a practice that used to be common in journalism. Shining a light on what is actually happening behind the scenes. Capturing people’s words and actions in live videos. No way to deny it. Plus the 8+ year old law suit Pakman mentioned wasn’t even deceptive, PParenthood was just able to sue them due to a technicality because the undercover video was in a state where there was limitations on what could be shot without consent if it wasn’t in a public place, etc. Even that deflection was BS.... and notice he completely changed the subject after.
      Lastly, shame on him for purposely not watching the Veritas videos. It is part of your profession and you are putting your head in the sand. Stop being an NPC, open your eyes and if you don’t like the Veritas video or can fault it afterwards then debate it then. What a beta, out of touch, bubble boy.

    • @Sprite_525
      @Sprite_525 4 года назад +1

      Nathan Resick - they’re not liars. They DO lop-sided work, exposing people only on the left. That’s the major problem, that they don’t expose people on the right. If they did equal coverage on both sides, they would be much harder to dismiss. Right wingers give a knee jerk response “Veritas has no agenda the left is just that corrupt.” Please, the right has its problems. The fact that project Veritas ignores the right is the real killer of their credibility. But not “lies”, they expose people through raw footage. It’s not wise to label Veritas as liars. Much better to say they’re lopsided activists using raw footage for political change rather than practicing pure philosophical truth & honesty for its own sake

  • @Ayezube
    @Ayezube 4 года назад +154

    First impression of Pac, I don’t trust him.
    Last impression of Pac, I don’t trust him.

    • @michaelknight2897
      @michaelknight2897 4 года назад +24

      You shouldn't. Watch his show. Hes a reasonable sounding progressive liar. Hes basically the same as Ezra Klein.

    • @SuperParkerBrothers
      @SuperParkerBrothers 4 года назад +20

      @@michaelknight2897 I hope one day you recover from your delusions. Pakman is wildly rational and comprehensive in his approach.

    • @anandprakash8175
      @anandprakash8175 4 года назад +12

      @@SuperParkerBrothers but he is never willing to concede to a point even if it logically and practically makes sense from certain perspectives. Sometimes some topics are just in the grey area. He only ever argues for his points or beliefs instead of discussing why and how people do or think about something

    • @MrSpolaR
      @MrSpolaR 4 года назад +15

      @@SuperParkerBrothers Not even close. Pakman is the Steven crowder of the left. He's TYT delusional. Kyle Kulinski or Jimmy Dore are rational and comprehensive. Pakman is a left wing hack.

    • @SuperParkerBrothers
      @SuperParkerBrothers 4 года назад +8

      @@MrSpolaR lmao. Kulinski screams conspiracies and Dore is a nut job.

  • @ilanjuve
    @ilanjuve 4 года назад +115

    Joe after the Spotify contract is going down hard on RUclips and they deserves this.

    • @meinking22
      @meinking22 4 года назад +13

      I hope Joe goes hard for months and without lube.

    • @newagecinematics
      @newagecinematics 4 года назад +4

      RUclips has been doing this for a long while now and not just censoring, but also other shit that they are doing

    • @tomsatos9607
      @tomsatos9607 4 года назад

      Yes he should, but let's not forget that Spotify does the same and even worse to artists.

    • @cooliipie
      @cooliipie 4 года назад

      Nice!

    • @cooliipie
      @cooliipie 4 года назад +2

      Spotify banned Alex Jones though

  • @Hosebrain
    @Hosebrain 2 года назад +7

    I tried giving Pakman a chance and I'll continue watching some of his shows but man he really is a second rate "journalist/podcaster". He never has an interesting take and he is always in line with the democratic talking points. He is not intellectually honest and doesn't even seem well read on the points he argues. His show is mostly pushing the same old divisive political nonsense all while he acts self righteously. He tries to come off like he is so reasonable and well thought out, but his thinking lacks depth. He has 1.4m subscribers but gets 10-30k views a video on average?? Seems like BS. A family member mentioned on thanksgiving that they stay informed by watching different political perspectives, so I had to check this out, but unfortunately Pakman is as far left as they come.

  • @ddog210
    @ddog210 4 года назад +177

    Seems like this guy loves the censorship going on.

    • @jcdenton8294
      @jcdenton8294 4 года назад +12

      Anyone who disagrees with me is yelling "Fire!" in a crowded area bro

    • @jcdenton8294
      @jcdenton8294 4 года назад +34

      A small bakery has no right to refuse service to someone for ideological reasons, but a multi-billion dollar company can gag hundreds of thousands of people because it's their right!

    • @countpicula
      @countpicula 4 года назад +21

      I mean, packmen is a commie.

    • @kylespade5958
      @kylespade5958 4 года назад +19

      Don't know who he is but he gives me a "My wife's boyfriend will beat you up." Kind of vibe.

    • @danzoil
      @danzoil 4 года назад +2

      @@jcdenton8294 Works the other way around too. Do you think a bakery has the right to serve who they wish? and if so, how do you justify youtube not being allowed to do the same?

  • @Enroxxx
    @Enroxxx 4 года назад +48

    David Pakman's logical fallacies are embarrassing.

    • @taijitu688
      @taijitu688 4 года назад

      I found it was his use of big words.

  • @c.h.2392
    @c.h.2392 4 года назад +57

    Joe: literally anything
    Pakman: yeah, but Trump

  • @propositionjohnston
    @propositionjohnston 4 года назад +10

    In an era of Trump turmoil, I find Pakman’s reasonableness very soothing!

  • @SauravKumar-st5rs
    @SauravKumar-st5rs 4 года назад +50

    I guess Joe is gonna have some crazy guest on Spotify...

  • @firebird7479
    @firebird7479 4 года назад +51

    I turned this off after 3:15 when Pakman started suggesting that listening to qualified medical people about herd immunity, etc was harmful and can see why they'd be censored. I don't need to hear more after that.

    • @hustleup3840
      @hustleup3840 4 года назад +3

      Firebird 7479 I’m 6 minutes in and I’ve had enough

    • @meinking22
      @meinking22 4 года назад +6

      You should have kept listening. The discussion got better.

    • @ytuber3801
      @ytuber3801 4 года назад +3

      Joe nailed him... And he back tracked a bit on the medical stuff

    • @danzoil
      @danzoil 4 года назад +5

      Turned it off without debating his ideas? ah, yes, the conservatives strike again with their market place of ideas.

    • @joshhedderig2233
      @joshhedderig2233 4 года назад +7

      That’s not what he was suggesting. He was commenting on the misinformation that quarantines could be harmful to your immune system , and how that is dangerous because of flat earther types of people

  • @willbeard4835
    @willbeard4835 4 года назад +60

    Willingly arguing for censorship? Am I stoned or is this real?

    • @braveheart4603
      @braveheart4603 4 года назад +16

      joe is arguing for less censorship and it's the reason cited for his move to spotify while the pakman guy just does his best to rationalise the lefts approach to every single issue.

    • @suprememonka8333
      @suprememonka8333 4 года назад +3

      He belongs to a certain interest group which you are not allowed to name...

    • @willbeard4835
      @willbeard4835 4 года назад +1

      Sorry I meant pakman not Rogan. Obviously Rogan isn't for censorship based on this video. Sorry for being confusing I was smoking some BOMB wax. Cheers boys

    • @shinyhaunter6019
      @shinyhaunter6019 4 года назад +1

      @@braveheart4603 The reason he just said he is leaving in this video was because it was a good deal. He did say that he didn't like the censorship on the platform but he specifically said that he was not going to war with anyone or anything so this game of telephone is getting messed up already lol not trying to argue with you just saying that what you are saying is officially incorrect. Also Joe or his guest mentioned that the government is in control or responsible for freedom of speech or rights but I just want to add that's also not even close to being true as the rights are bestowed onto us BY GOD . No one can Amend them or deny any legal us citizens those rights even at the highest offices of government.

    • @cccc9911
      @cccc9911 4 года назад

      @Duffy Duff He is...but he really isnt. If he really was arguing against it, there wouldnt be so many "if's" or "who's". Its simple...allow for regulation on direct threats or doxxing if you want, but everything else goes. Profit & corporations do not matter when it comes to the FIRST amendment. Joe is still playing both sides here...like he does on almost everything.

  • @scrtwpnx
    @scrtwpnx 4 года назад +7

    right wing headlines: conservative DESTROYS liberal
    left wing headlines: senator blasts other senator
    hm. which is more imflammatory?
    Rogan is being willfully ignorant for saying left wing insults are worse than right wing ones

  • @billm5435
    @billm5435 4 года назад +33

    Who determines what is disinformation? RUclips? LOL

  • @tikari3987
    @tikari3987 4 года назад +166

    One of the best if not the best arguments Rogan ever made. When Rogan makes a stand it is for a good reason.

    • @Andre-oc7gg
      @Andre-oc7gg 4 года назад +6

      Dont you just love the fact that he's sticking it to them?

    • @alphadexxa
      @alphadexxa 4 года назад +4

      Or is it that he's taking a stand on an issue you agree with?

    • @TechProFury
      @TechProFury 4 года назад +15

      @@alphadexxa you mean the constitution.
      Yea real Americans fight for it.

    • @imrankazzy9076
      @imrankazzy9076 4 года назад +4

      Rogan made terrible points tbh

    • @imrankazzy9076
      @imrankazzy9076 4 года назад +1

      Sean Potter also youtube is not just for the US so why would everyone expect special treatment just for the states

  • @ErockedYa
    @ErockedYa 4 года назад +66

    When did David become a doctor?

    • @crzxm
      @crzxm 4 года назад +1

      When we clicked, he put his doctor hat on.

    • @TruckerJenkins82
      @TruckerJenkins82 4 года назад +6

      When he started playing 'devils advocate ™ after reaching into his bag of gimmicks.

  • @themoors4563
    @themoors4563 10 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder how many people follow Joe Rogan‘s advice on Covid vaccinations and how it worked out for them? I remember a couple of years ago a guy that was a respiratory therapist at Doctors hospital in Miami Florida said that the hospital was full of unvaccinated people…… he said that there were people who were vaccinated that were admitted into the ER, but they were not put in critical care. They were a lot less sicker, and their hospitalizations were much shorter…… I kept waiting for them to have that conversation

    • @Unvaccinated69
      @Unvaccinated69 8 месяцев назад +1

      Covid was very mild. Americans over exaggerate how bad it is. The most lethal strain had an IFR of 0.15%.

  • @BGWhite-sb8is
    @BGWhite-sb8is 4 года назад +115

    He’s such a weasel in every way.
    Joe: Valid Point
    David: Yeah but the person who said that is bad.
    Joe: Another valid point.
    David: Yeah but the person who said that is a hypocrite.
    Never addresses the point. Just shifts the framing.

    • @CTViewer07
      @CTViewer07 4 года назад +16

      A classic woke SJW defense, just move the goal posts!

    • @laburnibyboone3435
      @laburnibyboone3435 4 года назад +17

      He is a typical weasel like all the censor fans.
      Biased hypocrite.

    • @onefortheroad6186
      @onefortheroad6186 4 года назад

      Im so glad I visited the comments section of this video. I gave this shit bird a chance after hearing he was reasonable but he is just another sissy that cant handle challenged.

    • @ilikethatboulder.thatisani5496
      @ilikethatboulder.thatisani5496 4 года назад +1

      Neoliberals and right wingers for ya

    • @ScorpionXII
      @ScorpionXII 4 года назад +1

      I found no such exchange in this video. David Pakman's overall position is correct; tech companies have an establishment bias, not much of a political bias. Establishment media like FOX News and CNN get propped up, while independent media get buried. David is also correct that the disproportionate censorship of conservatism on most platforms is due to conservatism's incompatibility with any sort of moderation; for example... if Twitter for whatever reason decides to ban 5G conspiracy content, 90% of the people effected by this ban will be conservatives. Now you can disagree with their decision to ban 5G conspiracy content, but the point here is... there's no actual way to ban 5G nuts that will result in an equal distribution of of bans between left and right, therefore Twitter is given two choices... no moderate at all, or moderate in such a way that disproportionately effects conservatives.

  • @duckpigs6130
    @duckpigs6130 4 года назад +41

    8:20 man this guy is out of touch, they want their constitutional rights respected

    • @franklogrim8510
      @franklogrim8510 4 года назад +1

      Yes, same thought. I was like is he taking the left's ideas and flipping them around? 🤔

    • @ll472
      @ll472 4 года назад +3

      You do realize that the US constitutional right to free speech is about Government Censoring your speech. I didn't realize RUclips was your government body.

    • @blindeagleace3629
      @blindeagleace3629 4 года назад

      I dont think you have a Constitutional right to use a platform.
      😂😂

    • @banjo4smash862
      @banjo4smash862 4 года назад

      @Donald Trump whomever owns the church(that's private property no different from the home you live in) can kick you out, but many priest would be more then willing to debate you on your beliefs. Find me a single church with as many members as youtube or twitter and you might have a point, but as of now the two simply don't compare.

    • @banjo4smash862
      @banjo4smash862 4 года назад

      @Donald Trump Even if your just an edgelord the priest/pastors of most churches can be very tolerant and would welcome anyone into their community for the betterment of themselves, religions not ALL bad, but there is bad in everything.

  • @metcard
    @metcard 4 года назад +40

    David "go make your own platform" Pakman.

    • @meh6346
      @meh6346 4 года назад +1

      Conservatives: Liberals go make your own country if you hate America
      Also Conservatives : WTF you mean make my own twitter!? No, look at the logistics, its impossible.

    • @connorvanwinter8577
      @connorvanwinter8577 4 года назад

      @@meh6346 Pretty sure nobody tells people to go "make their own" country dude; theres like 200 countries out there that they can go to if they don't like it here, why do you think immigrants come to America? They didn't like their country enough to stay, Americans can do the same. RUclips and Twitter claim to be, and morally should be, completely neutral platforms that allow anything that is not outright harmful (threats, obscene nudity/violence etc). Liberals are supposed to be tolerant and allowing of all viewpoints, and yet they are constantly the ones trying to censor and remove opposing ideas.

  • @smokerx893
    @smokerx893 3 года назад +1

    they want obedience not debate or any questioning of the mainstream media.

  • @stevengumble8983
    @stevengumble8983 4 года назад +118

    YT has to either be a publisher or a platform, not both as it suits them.

    • @estevenj
      @estevenj 4 года назад +7

      Steven Gumble ... nope. They’re a private company. They can censor whatever they want. The Internet is the platform. That’s the public area.

    • @KCroc1
      @KCroc1 4 года назад +12

      estevenj Electric water cable Internet social media Companies should all be on the same level If the people working at the electric company are conservative they shouldn’t be allowed and they don’t shut off the electric to Liberal peoples houses it should work the same for social media

    • @estevenj
      @estevenj 4 года назад +3

      Kyle Crocker Social Media is a business on the Internet. You can start a social media platform on the Internet for free in a day. Just because RUclips has the most customers doesn’t make it a public utility. You can’t start a power company by yourself...probably ever. But you can spin up a blog and podcast with a payment portal in six hours on free WiFi at Starbucks.

    • @PropaneTreeFiddy
      @PropaneTreeFiddy 4 года назад +6

      @@estevenj just because they can doesn't mean they should.
      Nestle's a private company so I guess it's A-OK that they're putting impoverished African babies on formula to make their mothers stop producing milk and grow a reliance on their products.
      Shitty business practices should be called out, and if they harm the public, or democracy, then I have no objection to government interference in the matter.

    • @estevenj
      @estevenj 4 года назад +3

      Propane TreeFiddy don’t bring a straw man argument. Put the keyboard down. We’re talking about what defines a public utility,

  • @user-xj8mn8mp1r
    @user-xj8mn8mp1r 4 года назад +199

    Pakman says one thing, joe corrects him, pakman "totally agrees" .

    • @massn1990
      @massn1990 4 года назад +20

      To be fair, he is stating several times that he is playing devil’s advocate

    • @wes4192
      @wes4192 4 года назад +8

      @@massn1990 He's Jewish

    • @GGtheRealest
      @GGtheRealest 4 года назад +6

      It's double talk. No real agreement or disagreement, and it's just easier for him to move forward and it's the listener's job to figure out where the fuck this guy stands.

    • @jeremyfoster8726
      @jeremyfoster8726 4 года назад +3

      @Harry Lord More reason to consider conservatives the enemy. They're anti-Semitic trash.

    • @slitherelaine9808
      @slitherelaine9808 4 года назад +5

      Harry Lord So? Being a racist is for losers who’s only achievement in life is being born a certain color. If your only argument against David Parkman is that he is Jewish, you got nothing. You’re not smart enough to actually refute him when he is wrong. (Which he is)

  • @ramathorn1982
    @ramathorn1982 4 года назад +72

    Packman: I'm not a doctor...
    Also Packman: The Doctor who is also an immunologist has it exactly backwards...
    Ok

    • @tgfs238
      @tgfs238 4 года назад +4

      You don't have to be a doctor to disagree with a doctor lmao

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 4 года назад +1

      Also, learn to spell his name right, before you say other dumb things.

    • @mrxanthios7045
      @mrxanthios7045 4 года назад +2

      @Zardoz I kind of a remember a right wing president suggesting we inject disinfectant into people to cure coronavirus. I think you should try that method. Your gene pool won't be missed. Inbred.

    • @ramathorn1982
      @ramathorn1982 4 года назад

      @@tgfs238 fair enough...

    • @ramathorn1982
      @ramathorn1982 4 года назад

      @@andybaldman will do.

  • @nickcompton5981
    @nickcompton5981 2 года назад +2

    Ok joe so your going to listen to an MD over an infectious disease doctor? That sounds logical, hell why not just ask the plant doctor.