Nicely done video! Tip, Use a "Presto" electric crock pot to heat the oil to 100C then spray it on. Oil/wax mixtures spray beautifully at this HOT temperature. Use extreme caution not to burn yourself..
100% . I like to use some thin oil in August then some chain bar oil and cooking oil in sept or October the cooking oil makes tac up after a few days done right and annually you truck will last . I just restored a 2011 f150 4x4 welded in new rockers and cab corners touched up paint re did brakes and new strut rebuild differential. I drilled several 1/2 holes in my rockers and new cab corners and pillars and sprayed them also and will be doing it annually the entire truck The job your doing is fantastic getting all the boxed sections awesome , you won’t get level of coverage if you farmed it out
I've been spraying my truck in the same areas that you do. I just flush out the frame and body panels with water first a week before I spaying the material. Moisture activates salt. Dirt holds moisture.
I have the same spray gun as you which I purchased to apply Fluid Film under my car. I have found that the Fluid Film leaks badly from where the 3 hoses attach to the gun. I have resorted to wrapping the fitting with a cloth and taping around the cloth to prevent it from unraveling. The cloth by the end is absolutely soaked with Fluid film. Better on the cloth than on my driveway. Also, the small opening requires a funnel to add Fluid Film inside the metal bottle which is a slow process.
I just wash the underside of my car at the do it yourself wash at least once a week or after a snowfall and salt coating on the road. Been working great.
I did the same when I had a car..but now I have a pick up, Im astounded by the number of `holes` in the frame. I have no idea why they are all there, but water gets in with ease.
If it's a red Tacoma, it's my video lol. Linseed oil was commonly used as a protection from rust on planes too. It's even used in some industrial paints for structures.
@@4DIYers it was made by a high end restoration guy. I have watched 100 undercoating videos... the candle wax..linseed oil and mineral spirits has been my favorite so far.
@@4DIYers it was made by a high end restoration guy. I have watched 100 undercoating videos... the candle wax..linseed oil and mineral spirits has been my favorite so far.
Thank you! You maybe able to request them having to spray inside the frame. I don't believe they typically do that. Usually they have a window in their spray bay to watch when applying the coating.
you don't need a fancy expensive spray gun. I just use a long nose wand style sprayer about $10.00, get some chain oil, thin it out will varsol and I get some candle wax. put it in a pot heat it up so its sprayable. for about $30.00 I can make about 8 litres or 2 gallons, enough for 2-3 cars
Found this helpful. And very thorough. Thankyou Although I have read that 2-3 coats is recommended. Can you speak to this at all? (Yes I realise this is quite a laborious process which is why I'm asking - if I went to that much trouble I'd want to know I was doing it right)
No problem and thank you for the kind words. 2-3 coats may depend on the product but it can get excessively thick which maybe a problem. I would recommend doing this every year instead. This year, I'll be applying oil instead as the wax will stay as a base coat and provide a strong protection, while the oil can soak into any areas where the wax maybe lacking or if the coating is removed off the surface.
@@4DIYers thankyou. Helpful. But with regards to the oil, do you mean it can coat areas like tubing etc? (the stuff you were careful to avoid spraying?)
@@4DIYers What should I use to spray my vehicle with oil? I have a big air compressor and a gravity fed paint gun but I don't want to destroy the gun using oil. I have quite a lot of used Mobil 1 to spray underneath but jot sure the best way to do it.
@@4DIYers Yeah I bought the inexpensive TCP model a couple years ago. The one with the blue metal canister. Does a good job but the attachments could be better.
For others asking about the oil mixture used: He's previously used a mixture of linseed oil and wd40. Fluid film and cosmoline work great. I have used spray cans of rp342 and it's very easy.
I used Proform PF711. I've heard of using Fluid Film, never tried it myself though. As far as I know, Fluid Film is about double the price than compared to the stuff I used. Proform is also a Canadian company, so I'm not sure if it's sold outside of the country.
Try CarQuest, that's where I bought mine and they seem to be a supplier for Proform. It was on sale a few weeks ago, might still be, $30 for the 3.78L can like I used in the video.
@@4DIYers do you have a link to this PF711 rustproofing stuff? I've found something from The Wrench Monkey, but Ill have to wait to call to get a price according to the page... or they have none left... :/
I’ve seen several of your RUclips’s thanks! What’s your current recommendation on a spray gun to apply Blaster Surface Shield? You didn’t mention the brand/make in this video; have a recommendation?
Thank you for the support! I haven't used Blaster Surface Shield personally, but the gun that was shown in the video can work for a variety of solutions, even paint. The link for it is in my video description and there should be a pinned common too.
Thank you! Might be able to find another retailer who supplies it, but it's a pretty specific gun otherwise. Not many companies offer this style from what I've found.
After 6:00, I fitted my own 360 degree tip ruclips.net/video/cZ6tBZ4aqYk/видео.html It's not a pressurized gun and the solution I used there was thinner so it sprays easier. The pressurized guns are more specific for these types of coatings. You maybe able to find a cheaper option online, but just be careful with the cheapo brands. One model I was researching that was about half the price compared to the one in the video seemed to have quite a few bad reviews.
Btw, I'm trying to figure out the quick connect fitting size? For the wand attachments. 1/4F? Not sure what style this is for the Lemmer. Not your standard air compressor or pressure washer. Any idea?
Hello Did you clean out inside rockers? There’s plugs or original tape over the rear backside of rockers you can remove to wash them out before applying rust proofing. Thank you
Can you share a link or information on the type of product you sprayed on your vehicle? Also that sprayer is no longer available on Amazon, the alternatives seemed very expensive for what they were, FYI. Thank you
Hi Ed, I saw your comment. The product he used was wax based. He recently responded advising that he will "be applying oil instead as the wax will stay as a base coat and provide a strong protection, while the oil can soak into any areas where the wax maybe lacking or if the coating is removed off the surface."
If it's new, now is the best time to apply a form of rust protection. Many products are self healing, if any stone chips occur, they'll be immediately protected.
You mean to say the Dealership didn't try to screw you, $$$ on under coating your new truck please rust proof/oil your truck if you plan on owning it over 5yrs
I purchased the same kit, the nozles work great. Until I switch over to the flexible 360° wand, the oil just clumps out of the wand, it doesn't spray as a mist. Any idea?
@@jasonfrance4927 yes Eastwood! Not sure if that does much since I still got rust. I used phosphoric spray also to convert the rust. But the problem is phosphoric acid will CREATE rust where there is no rust. Make sure to get Cosmoline Black because Cosmoline sells just their paraffin wax straight but it is orange like rust color. hahahaha. So then I found this laser welding engineer who designed a "chassis repair kit" for the same chassis frame! Took me awhile to find a mechanic who knew how to weld that on....Cuz I could not trust just relying on that Eastwood stuff - it really doesn't do much. And I couldn't remember what color paraffin - I had used both over the years. It's hard to tell about rust inside the chassis. I used a boroscope camera. Yeah then I used epoxy paint since that lasts longer I think then the wax. The wax gets brittle in the winter and then comes off in the car wash, etc. The ONLY Epoxy paint I could find in a spray can was for "appliance" Rustoleum. thanks
Don't waste your time with CT, go to a John Deere dealer and get their implement paint. It's more expensive but great stuff! If you check out my Tacoma frame refinish and my gas tank leak repair, but of those had implement paint as well, but it's a can version instead where I mixed for a paint gun.
@@4DIYers Google is the parent company and perhaps I was trying to watch the video, maybe they were downloading new tracking software. My junk email is 200+ with gutters to military crap all showing: google user…… I am sick of it! A lot of deleting going on over here! DK, out!
1 gallon of 30w bar and chain oil mixed with 1 tube of Lucas red tacky grease is the ratio i use heated up in a big electric crockpot and spray it on hot with a undercoating gun.
I haven't used Fluid Film, but I know it's very popular and people seem to like it. I have used Woolwax and it does a good job. But so far I prefer this stuff as it seems to have a great bond on the surface.
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What if you just weld the holes in the frame and cover them?
@@JNAMOTORSPORTS I'll be covering that in a future video. Currently putting it together, just waiting on some stuff for the video.
Is that gun a siphon feed or a pressure feed?
It's pressurized.
@@4DIYers Thanks
Super helpful. Thanks. Exactly the kind of instructional video I need. Right pace, right info, no BS.
Thank you so much!
Excellent video, no weord music or nonsensical talking or gibberish
Thank you so much!
I’ve never done this before but with this in-depth video I can now plan how to treat my baby.
Wow a 2006 and its 2020. Obviously this really works wonders
Helps not being a farm truck or being exposed to gravel roads too. There's not many Rams like this with the original fenders and rockers too.
Nicely done video! Tip, Use a "Presto" electric crock pot to heat the oil to 100C then spray it on. Oil/wax mixtures spray beautifully at this HOT temperature. Use extreme caution not to burn yourself..
Thank you and great tip as well!
@@4DIYers Been doing this for 25 years! Heat is key...
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100% . I like to use some thin oil in August then some chain bar oil and cooking oil in sept or October the cooking oil makes tac up after a few days done right and annually you truck will last . I just restored a 2011 f150 4x4 welded in new rockers and cab corners touched up paint re did brakes and new strut rebuild differential. I drilled several 1/2 holes in my rockers and new cab corners and pillars and sprayed them also and will be doing it annually the entire truck The job your doing is fantastic getting all the boxed sections awesome , you won’t get level of coverage if you farmed it out
Thank you for the kind words and sharing your experiences! It's definitely worth it, once that rust starts growing it's a nightmare to deal with.
I've been spraying my truck in the same areas that you do. I just flush out the frame and body panels with water first a week before I spaying the material. Moisture activates salt. Dirt holds moisture.
Great tips and I totally agree.
I have the same spray gun as you which I purchased to apply Fluid Film under my car. I have found that the Fluid Film leaks badly from where the 3 hoses attach to the gun. I have resorted to wrapping the fitting with a cloth and taping around the cloth to prevent it from unraveling. The cloth by the end is absolutely soaked with Fluid film. Better on the cloth than on my driveway.
Also, the small opening requires a funnel to add Fluid Film inside the metal bottle which is a slow process.
beautifully done
Thank you very much!
I just wash the underside of my car at the do it yourself wash at least once a week or after a snowfall and salt coating on the road. Been working great.
I did the same when I had a car..but now I have a pick up, Im astounded by the number of `holes` in the frame. I have no idea why they are all there, but water gets in with ease.
National Park Service uses a mixture of boiled linseed oil...candle wax. and mineral spirits...on EVERYTHING. There is a good video on it on here.
If it's a red Tacoma, it's my video lol. Linseed oil was commonly used as a protection from rust on planes too. It's even used in some industrial paints for structures.
@@4DIYers it was made by a high end restoration guy. I have watched 100 undercoating videos... the candle wax..linseed oil and mineral spirits has been my favorite so far.
@@4DIYers it was made by a high end restoration guy. I have watched 100 undercoating videos... the candle wax..linseed oil and mineral spirits has been my favorite so far.
You did a hell of a good job i only hope they do it this good at the Krown rust place thats where im taking my truck
Thank you! You maybe able to request them having to spray inside the frame. I don't believe they typically do that. Usually they have a window in their spray bay to watch when applying the coating.
@@4DIYers yeah i may just play the this video show em how its really done.
@@mvrdamonxy7942 krown are spraying in the frame.just make sure with them that its being done. Sometime their are in a rush and they cut corners.
@@mvrdamonxy7942 I personally just go at krown for the inside of my frame.i treat the rest with cosmoline
Nicely Done!!
Thank you!
you don't need a fancy expensive spray gun. I just use a long nose wand style sprayer about $10.00, get some chain oil, thin it out will varsol and I get some candle wax. put it in a pot heat it up so its sprayable. for about $30.00 I can make about 8 litres or 2 gallons, enough for 2-3 cars
Found this helpful. And very thorough. Thankyou
Although I have read that 2-3 coats is recommended. Can you speak to this at all? (Yes I realise this is quite a laborious process which is why I'm asking - if I went to that much trouble I'd want to know I was doing it right)
No problem and thank you for the kind words. 2-3 coats may depend on the product but it can get excessively thick which maybe a problem. I would recommend doing this every year instead. This year, I'll be applying oil instead as the wax will stay as a base coat and provide a strong protection, while the oil can soak into any areas where the wax maybe lacking or if the coating is removed off the surface.
@@4DIYers thankyou. Helpful.
But with regards to the oil, do you mean it can coat areas like tubing etc? (the stuff you were careful to avoid spraying?)
The oil would be applied to the same areas as the wax spray, just avoid the same areas.
@@4DIYers oh, ok. Thanks again 👍
@@4DIYers What should I use to spray my vehicle with oil? I have a big air compressor and a gravity fed paint gun but I don't want to destroy the gun using oil. I have quite a lot of used Mobil 1 to spray underneath but jot sure the best way to do it.
Nice gun. I just saw the price on it. Pricy. Good job on staying ahead of rust.
Thank you. Yep, but it's worth it though. I'll be using it again this year so it'll have paid for itself.
@@4DIYers Yeah I bought the inexpensive TCP model a couple years ago. The one with the blue metal canister. Does a good job but the attachments could be better.
G day from Ontario Wow If u hd to pay someone to do this it would cost 4-500.
Good job
Ths
For others asking about the oil mixture used: He's previously used a mixture of linseed oil and wd40. Fluid film and cosmoline work great. I have used spray cans of rp342 and it's very easy.
This is something different than linseed oil. This is an actual off the shelf rust proofing coating, made by Proform, model PF711.
rp342 is Paraffin - that's what I used also.
Thought that in Canada everybody use Corrosion Free Rust Cure :)
What brand of oil/wax did you use? I have been using fluid film for the last few years.
He's previously used a mixture of linseed oil and wd40. Fluid film and cosmoline work great. I have used spray cans of rp342 and it's very easy.
I used Proform PF711. I've heard of using Fluid Film, never tried it myself though. As far as I know, Fluid Film is about double the price than compared to the stuff I used. Proform is also a Canadian company, so I'm not sure if it's sold outside of the country.
@@4DIYers I'm in Ontario but have never seen Proform PF711. Will have to check it out if the price is right vs Fluid Film.
Try CarQuest, that's where I bought mine and they seem to be a supplier for Proform. It was on sale a few weeks ago, might still be, $30 for the 3.78L can like I used in the video.
@@4DIYers Thanks!
what is the oil that you used? Wax/oil, where did you get this from?
What kind of rust proofing did you use? I may have missed it. Thank you!
He's previously used a mixture of linseed oil and wd40. Fluid film and cosmoline work great. I have used spray cans of rp342 and it's very easy.
It's Proform, model PF711. I'm not sure if they're sold everywhere though, as far as I know it's a Canadian brand. No problem, always happy to help!
@@4DIYers Thanks!! Love your Videos!
@@4DIYers do you have a link to this PF711 rustproofing stuff? I've found something from The Wrench Monkey, but Ill have to wait to call to get a price according to the page... or they have none left... :/
I’ve seen several of your RUclips’s thanks! What’s your current recommendation on a spray gun to apply Blaster Surface Shield? You didn’t mention the brand/make in this video; have a recommendation?
Thank you for the support! I haven't used Blaster Surface Shield personally, but the gun that was shown in the video can work for a variety of solutions, even paint. The link for it is in my video description and there should be a pinned common too.
Great video. Just curious since your link for the gun in Canada shows a cost of over $500 with tax. Is this the cheapest option?
Thank you! Might be able to find another retailer who supplies it, but it's a pretty specific gun otherwise. Not many companies offer this style from what I've found.
Whew that’s a sweet spray gun. Got any more budget friendly suggestions?
After 6:00, I fitted my own 360 degree tip ruclips.net/video/cZ6tBZ4aqYk/видео.html It's not a pressurized gun and the solution I used there was thinner so it sprays easier. The pressurized guns are more specific for these types of coatings. You maybe able to find a cheaper option online, but just be careful with the cheapo brands. One model I was researching that was about half the price compared to the one in the video seemed to have quite a few bad reviews.
@@4DIYers Thanks, I can definitely see the value in buying the expensive gun vs paying $100-200 per vehicle every year.
Yeah I was just going to ask you where you got that spray gun from but I see it
Thank you !
No problem!
Thank you
No problem!
Would you have to redo all of those inner frame and body spots every year? Or just that final bottom portion?
I'll release another video in the upcoming weeks. This time around I used oil as a follow up over the wax.
Btw, I'm trying to figure out the quick connect fitting size? For the wand attachments. 1/4F? Not sure what style this is for the Lemmer. Not your standard air compressor or pressure washer. Any idea?
Very good video, thanks.
Thank you!
Hello Did you clean out inside rockers?
There’s plugs or original tape over the rear backside of rockers you can remove to wash them out before applying rust proofing. Thank you
You can but if they have plugs, they're most likely already clean inside.
Can you share a link or information on the type of product you sprayed on your vehicle? Also that sprayer is no longer available on Amazon, the alternatives seemed very expensive for what they were, FYI.
Thank you
Hi Ed, I saw your comment. The product he used was wax based. He recently responded advising that he will "be applying oil instead as the wax will stay as a base coat and provide a strong protection, while the oil can soak into any areas where the wax maybe lacking or if the coating is removed off the surface."
Should you spray the engine area?
Yeah can, just be careful not to spray the engine.
have you try to paint your exhause with high temp paint ?
Hey I just bought a 2020 Durango also in Canada. Do I need to worry about rust proofing even though the truck is brand new?
If it's new, now is the best time to apply a form of rust protection. Many products are self healing, if any stone chips occur, they'll be immediately protected.
You mean to say the Dealership didn't try to screw you, $$$ on under coating your new truck please rust proof/oil your truck if you plan on owning it over 5yrs
Think of all that salt on the roads in winter
I purchased the same kit, the nozles work great. Until I switch over to the flexible 360° wand, the oil just clumps out of the wand, it doesn't spray as a mist.
Any idea?
Most products need to be heated to properly spray through the noozle
I just order Cosmoline for the wax coating - it's paraffin. Also I ordered an internal frame rust inhibitor spray - can't remember the brand.
Was it easteood internal frame
@@jasonfrance4927 yes Eastwood! Not sure if that does much since I still got rust. I used phosphoric spray also to convert the rust. But the problem is phosphoric acid will CREATE rust where there is no rust. Make sure to get Cosmoline Black because Cosmoline sells just their paraffin wax straight but it is orange like rust color. hahahaha. So then I found this laser welding engineer who designed a "chassis repair kit" for the same chassis frame! Took me awhile to find a mechanic who knew how to weld that on....Cuz I could not trust just relying on that Eastwood stuff - it really doesn't do much. And I couldn't remember what color paraffin - I had used both over the years. It's hard to tell about rust inside the chassis. I used a boroscope camera. Yeah then I used epoxy paint since that lasts longer I think then the wax. The wax gets brittle in the winter and then comes off in the car wash, etc. The ONLY Epoxy paint I could find in a spray can was for "appliance" Rustoleum. thanks
When you apply the coating do you fully press the trigger? Or is there a trick to do with the "half-pull" air only feature?
Depends on how you have the gun setup, it has adjustments.
Can you tell us what the product name is please?
There's two types I work between, both are great. One is a dripless oil spray and the other is a wax and oil hybrid, both by Proform.
The break
The exhaust
And what was the last one you said you don't want to spray
Drive belts was the other thing he mentioned. I try to avoid the hoses too. Anything made of rubber.
The wand you are using in the video looks a lot longer than what came in the box. Did you buy a longer one or make your own?
Nope, that is the factory wand that came in the box.
@@4DIYers Thanks!!
You're welcome!
So in total it took you over a month to fully complete the undercoating..
A month? It can be done in a couple hours.
What is the rust inhibiting paint you use.. I feel overwhelmed with the options at Craptire and other places xD
Don't waste your time with CT, go to a John Deere dealer and get their implement paint. It's more expensive but great stuff! If you check out my Tacoma frame refinish and my gas tank leak repair, but of those had implement paint as well, but it's a can version instead where I mixed for a paint gun.
Do you think this gun would spray cosmoline or to thick?
Yes it should be able to.
How come this video is all black in July 24, 2022? Did he get removed? I just finished 6 other videos. Strange?
The video is working fine, not sure what the issue may be.
@@4DIYers Google is the parent company and perhaps I was trying to watch the video, maybe they were downloading new tracking software. My junk email is 200+ with gutters to military crap all showing: google user……
I am sick of it! A lot of deleting going on over here! DK, out!
1 gallon of 30w bar and chain oil mixed with 1 tube of Lucas red tacky grease is the ratio i use heated up in a big electric crockpot and spray it on hot with a undercoating gun.
How does it compare to Fluid Film/Woolwax? Do you think for undercarriage it would be better to go with pure wax formula of Proform?
I haven't used Fluid Film, but I know it's very popular and people seem to like it. I have used Woolwax and it does a good job. But so far I prefer this stuff as it seems to have a great bond on the surface.
How often must this be reapplied?
Yearly
Hello there , what kind of Anti Rust Liquid or Oil are you using Please ?
Proform model pf711
Whats the oil u useing
I'm a wax/oil hybrid spray from ProForm.
Just be aware that oils can cause swelling to rubber. Something to be mindful of.
Already mentioned in the video.
He clearly states to avoid rubber.
Who says you need a British Narrator for sufistication they didn't no this guy,,😂🤣😃
Thank you, greatly appreciated!
So you do this annually?
You can. Being that I have a good base now, I'll most likely follow up with oil this year.
The equipment is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE!
It's the best applicator gun you can buy which is used by professionals in the field.
Hey The spray gun kit isn’t that expensive but dealing with rotted out sheet metal and frames are major expense
Rolling your truck up on large 12x6 wood blocks will make this easier, if you don't have a lift.
Great tip, thank you for sharing!