I like you, the best to watch Florida fishing . At 75 bought my first kayak the Big fish 120 , fish November mid way to April mid way. You are a great enthusiast teacher about fish equal to Salt Strong. Fish on the gulf coast near Englewood Florida
2 wood dowels wrapped in tennis wrap or electrical tape save your hands, will also help when tightening the knots. SC knot is what I like to use, also went head to head with fg, and it beat it 3 times in a row. Good stuff sir.
Hey @RadReelingFishing , not sure if I commented this already but I just saw this video again. It’s great to see and I appreciate you taking the time to make it for us. While watching I couldn’t help but notice that the SC had more wraps around the leader than the FG. I’m no scientist but math tells me that for this test to be fair, both knots should have same amount of wraps, or that the wrapped portion of the leader on both knots should be the same size. For example, if the SC covered .75 inch of the leader knot, then the FG should also cover .75 inch of the leader knot as well. This is because surface area transfers to grip and theoretically, the more knot surface area you have, the better the knot will hold the leader. In your test, not surprisingly, the knot with less surface area contacting the leader failed earlier. Would it be possible to see the test re-done with matching knot surface areas?
JC some good data. I would expect the braided line to break (20 pound braid is the weak link). My spin is if you are testing knot strength, use heavier braided line so you have failures at the knots. Also need a consistent way too apply force when conducting pull tests. Good stuff man, keep the videos rolling. 👍
I deduce 2 things from this test. 1. Both knots are silly strong. They are holding stresses you won't see unless you are salt water fishing. 2. Only the FG knot actually broke. The two times FG lost, it was the knot that failed. SC knot never broke. The two times the SC side failed, it was the braid that broke. The reason the FG knot fails is because it is biting into the mono from two sides at the same point. This causes weakening of the mono and eventually failure. The SC evenly distributes the biting force across the whole surface of the mono, providing a more balanced force. If you like to tie FG, go for it. It's an amazing knot. If you like something a 10 year old can tie and it technically is stronger, then go for SC.
When snapping line (like from a snag) grip the line with pliers/forceps and then wrap the line a few times. Or you could find a stick and wrap the line around that, and pull. Just a tip for all
Great tip for all. Seems I can't go anywhere without finding braided line hanging in trees. Long pieces too. Like who ever just cut it off, instead of pulling till it breaks.
the FG is smaller it casts better for long casting surf fishing which one is stronger ? it does not matter that is what the drag is for to keep you from breaking the mainline!
Both the FG and SC knots are strong and effective when casting. The difference between the two is the SC is double wrapped because the strand is folded back on itself while wrapping onto the monofilament line, creating a wider area in which the braid is digging into the mono. While the FG is ultimately destroying itself due to the single wraps of braid cutting into the mono. The FG knot is a great knot and I use it myself, but will fail before the SC.
I think the sc knot creates a weak point in your mainline and that's why it broke at the start of the knot both times. I've never had a fg cut through my leader, but haven't used it with anything under 30lb. Great video all the same 👍
If I understand these knots correctly their strength depends on the braid digging into the mono/floro for it's grab/anchor strength when stretching tension/pressure is applied to secure the knot. So maybe the weakness in both knots is when one secures the knot with too much pressure so the mono/floro was nearly cut through by the braid. Theoretically, this may become more of a problem with BOTH lower lb. test lines. Smaller mono/floro to cut through and smaller braid with a narrower knifing blade to cut through the mono..
Normally, I use the Alberto knot, with the mono doubled in a loop (Resulting in a thicker knot). Rizzuto Finish makes it even better. Remember to unwax the braid a bit if it's new.
I would have to say it's just inconsistent knot tying. If the FG does not stay evenly tight when sinching it down all of the pressure will be on the first cpl of wraps instead of spread thru the whole knot. That is why it cut thru the leader. Both knots r stronger than the line itself in my opinion
You have come a long way, since you started your channel. I've watched many of your videos. One of my favorites was when you answered the question of how much income you got after a year. After I seen that. I decided not to just quit my job for You Tube. 😆
You need to use 60 lb. leader for your test. I have seen many 20 lb. braided lines break at 30 to 35 lbs. The 2 knots are 100% tied with the braid. Increasing the leader strength will take it out of the equation. You need the braid to break before the mono.
I think when you cut the edege of mono line, the edge of mono became sharp (and hard). Under high tension the braided line at the end of knot rubbed against the sharp mono edge causing the braided kine to fail
Yeah JC try that with a couple of dowels to save your hands. Good tests but operator error could be in play on the actual knot breaks. #braidwillcutyouthough
I've used the FG knot to catch tuna, wahoo, and marlin, and it's yet to fail me. The SC does look like less of a chore to tie, so I'll be trying it when the opportunity presents itself.
Why would you count the breakage on the SC Knot if the braided line broke? It is actually saying.... the knot is so strong that your line will break first. As far as I'm concerned the SC Knot is 4 out of 4 to not break. I have been using FG Knot in all my main to leader line connections. I will be trying the SC knot since it looks easier to tie. Thank you for sharing the test.
Very interesting JC. They both appear to be good knots. I'm wondering how much effect the strength & thinkness of the mainline & leader would have on the knot slipping? As I've mentioned before, I don't use braid, so my go-to setup for shore bait fishing here in the UK is 25-30Lb mono, and a 60-80Lb leader. There is a rule of thumb here about using a leader 10x in Lbs of the weight in ozs. So if casting with a 5oz weight, you need a minimum of a 50Lb leader to prevent 'crack offs'. Also, the leader needs to be a little more than 2x the length of the rod, so that you have a few turns around the reel spool before you cast.
Hi JC, interesting video. Man you've got some upper arm strength breaking lines of that strength! Your choice of lines is what I would call 'real world'. It's the type of combination an angler would use. Therefore, a 'real world' test would first involve testing the braid on its own to destruction several times by wrapping it around the hook of some digital scales and breaking it. This establishes the maximum capability of the weaker line without a knot. As fluorocarbon is a popular choice of leader material with different properties to mono, each knot should be tested against this as well, and the results compared. Try to keep the same number of twists and turns the same to see if one knot is any more grippy than the other. I doubt you would find much of a difference because they both seem excellent knots where the line strengths are similar. Then, still keeping with your mono and fluoro of 20-25 lbs, drop the braid down to about 11 lbs b/s. Test it as before on its own to make sure it can deliver that performance. Increase the amount of braid turns used to account for the thinner diameter but keep it the same for both knots on both materials. This is more of an 'unreal world test' which is designed to show how much of a part line diameter mismatch plays in each knot's performance. Undoubtedly, both SC and FG Knots could be tuned up to give max performance by increasing the braid turns, but it would be interesting to know whether one needed less 'tuning' than the other suggesting that it was the more grippy of the two. This is far more of an extreme test as the line diameters will be so disparate - unreal, yes, but it will show any differences. Final thoughts. Assumptions cannot be trusted where braid is concerned. Accurate testing will validate or nullify one's assumptions. I recall devising a line-to-line knot to rival the performance of the FG Knot (which I couldn't tie at the time - one big advantage of the SC Knot). It passed the foregoing test at the first time of asking. So, I had what I wanted, or did I? I assumed that it would be as good with braid to braid because it passed this extreme test. It was hopeless! Only my latest creation can claim this honour, but whilst not bloated when it comes to profile, it cannot match the slimness of an FG or SC Knot.
I like the ingenuity of the test. Interesting. Is it normal for saltwater guys to use stronger mono than than braid? In my experience in freshwater the leader is lower rated line like 10/12#, 20/50#.
Stronger leader is for more toothy critters and chafing against rocks, barnacles etc. In clear open water for dolphin, sailfish, tuna etc. if line visibility is a factor we scale down on the leader diameter. One plus of using a leader weaker than the mainline is you don't have to respool as often due to losing a long section of line in a breakoff. In the Amazon fishing dark water I still use a stronger leader or at least double the braid at the lure where all the pressure is concentrated at a small area.
OK. but why does the SC knot broke in front of the mono... does the SC pinch itself and cut... I understand that the Fg cut through the Mono. IT IS PREFERABLE THAT THE MONO BREAK BEFORE THE KNOT
That wouldn't be fair to say unless you tested to see at what poundage it broke. If it breaks at 20 pounds or more, we'll, something is going to have to break. So that really doesn't prove anything
I have tried both of these knots dozens of times and I absolutely can’t get them to stick. They always slip on me. I have watched dozens of videos on how to tie these knots and no matter what I do both knots will never bite into the fluorocarbon leader. I am using 10-14lb fluorocarbon and 20-30 pound suffix 131 braid.
But SC knot is thickest than FG. And it affect the cast smooth. Oh and please test them one by one with load test and see where's knot that resist heavier load. Btw i'm a FG fan 😃
Hey... I’m moving to Florida in 2 days from Chicago...I have nothing, and curious what you would recommend That I get to start my fishing adventure? I watched your Walmart video and that’s where I’ll start but want your advice.
Only one thing I can say...never tie the FG knot when using a thin braided mainline. For heavier braided mainline, no contest between FG and SC knots. Keep reviewing buddy. :)
We've done enough test to know that FG does not break off by the knot under load. not from two ppl pull test, not from a weight test. unless your FG knot wasn't tied to the right spec, otherwise FG knot does not un tie itself whether it's finished with half hitches or Zirutto.
Well in this video it broke inside of the knot, not trickery here. I can assure you there's noting wrong with the way the FG was tied in this video. Try it with the same pond test braided line and leader that I used in this video and you'll get the same results I'm sure.
Sorry JC...that test is still questionable...to properly test a knot...you need that knot strength tester. When you use your hands and arm strength...it's variable. What if your have a stronger left arm to your right arm? I understand you flipped the lines...but a true test needs to show the some type of numbers using equal force on single lines. Not saying FG nor SC is more superior...but ill say SC is a great alternative as far as speed to tie on the fly. But over the years tying FGs...I can tie them very fast and I feel confident that it is 100% knot strength and as of yet...never failed me. But ill give it a shot.
@@ABNHW really so you're saying you're playing tug o war with a rope...let say the same knots apply...one side you have a sumo wrestler and the other side a gorilla ...how can you say they're equal forces ...think about it... the strength on one side of the line could out power the counter strength to the other...that's why you need a knot tester that gives you the same force applied ...look up saltstrong...that's a more accurate tester...they just recently tested knots strengths on beyond braid vs. Power pro.
@@frankiev-tech4630 yes the forces at both ends are different and the resultant force would be in favor of whoever is stronger. But as far as the line holding them together is concerned, there is not more pulling on one side or the other. If 30 lbs of force on one end and ten lbs on the other, the resultant force is 20 lbs in the direction of the 30. But the line is soaking up the other 10 distributed evenly across its length.
These videos are fun to watch. Nothing like an enthusiastic teacher and pertinent content!
Tied SC knot for the first time. Putting it to the test tomorrow
How was the test?
@@sampriolkar Let me simply say that I don't use FG knot anymore.
That's great 👍
I like you, the best to watch Florida fishing . At 75 bought my first kayak the Big fish 120 , fish November mid way to April mid way. You are a great enthusiast teacher about fish equal to Salt Strong. Fish on the gulf coast near Englewood Florida
2 wood dowels wrapped in tennis wrap or electrical tape save your hands, will also help when tightening the knots. SC knot is what I like to use, also went head to head with fg, and it beat it 3 times in a row. Good stuff sir.
Awesome tip.
Hey @RadReelingFishing , not sure if I commented this already but I just saw this video again. It’s great to see and I appreciate you taking the time to make it for us. While watching I couldn’t help but notice that the SC had more wraps around the leader than the FG. I’m no scientist but math tells me that for this test to be fair, both knots should have same amount of wraps, or that the wrapped portion of the leader on both knots should be the same size. For example, if the SC covered .75 inch of the leader knot, then the FG should also cover .75 inch of the leader knot as well. This is because surface area transfers to grip and theoretically, the more knot surface area you have, the better the knot will hold the leader. In your test, not surprisingly, the knot with less surface area contacting the leader failed earlier. Would it be possible to see the test re-done with matching knot surface areas?
JC some good data. I would expect the braided line to break (20 pound braid is the weak link). My spin is if you are testing knot strength, use heavier braided line so you have failures at the knots. Also need a consistent way too apply force when conducting pull tests. Good stuff man, keep the videos rolling. 👍
I deduce 2 things from this test.
1. Both knots are silly strong. They are holding stresses you won't see unless you are salt water fishing.
2. Only the FG knot actually broke. The two times FG lost, it was the knot that failed.
SC knot never broke. The two times the SC side failed, it was the braid that broke. The reason the FG knot fails is because it is biting into the mono from two sides at the same point. This causes weakening of the mono and eventually failure. The SC evenly distributes the biting force across the whole surface of the mono, providing a more balanced force.
If you like to tie FG, go for it. It's an amazing knot. If you like something a 10 year old can tie and it technically is stronger, then go for SC.
When snapping line (like from a snag) grip the line with pliers/forceps and then wrap the line a few times.
Or you could find a stick and wrap the line around that, and pull.
Just a tip for all
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great tip for all. Seems I can't go anywhere without finding braided line hanging in trees. Long pieces too. Like who ever just cut it off, instead of pulling till it breaks.
the FG is smaller it casts better for long casting surf fishing which one is stronger ? it does not matter that is what the drag is for to keep you from breaking the mainline!
Both the FG and SC knots are strong and effective when casting. The difference between the two is the SC is double wrapped because the strand is folded back on itself while wrapping onto the monofilament line, creating a wider area in which the braid is digging into the mono. While the FG is ultimately destroying itself due to the single wraps of braid cutting into the mono. The FG knot is a great knot and I use it myself, but will fail before the SC.
I think the sc knot creates a weak point in your mainline and that's why it broke at the start of the knot both times. I've never had a fg cut through my leader, but haven't used it with anything under 30lb. Great video all the same 👍
I use it with 6lb braid and 4lb mono for ultralight, and it held up fine to some gills the other day
On less than thirty pound test braid there is an advantage to doubling the braid before tying a knot. It provides cushioning effect.
If I understand these knots correctly their strength depends on the braid digging into the mono/floro for it's grab/anchor strength when stretching tension/pressure is applied to secure the knot. So maybe the weakness in both knots is when one secures the knot with too much pressure so the mono/floro was nearly cut through by the braid. Theoretically, this may become more of a problem with BOTH lower lb. test lines. Smaller mono/floro to cut through and smaller braid with a narrower knifing blade to cut through the mono..
Thanks for adding a comment of value
Normally, I use the Alberto knot, with the mono doubled in a loop (Resulting in a thicker knot). Rizzuto Finish makes it even better. Remember to unwax the braid a bit if it's new.
SC knot is so much easier for me to tie than the FG . It took me 2 attempts at the SC to get it right.
I would have to say it's just inconsistent knot tying. If the FG does not stay evenly tight when sinching it down all of the pressure will be on the first cpl of wraps instead of spread thru the whole knot. That is why it cut thru the leader. Both knots r stronger than the line itself in my opinion
I did it once and it was great tried again and it was wrong but why easier to tie thanks for the video
Thanks JC. I had two clean cuts today using 20 lb Fluorocarbon leader today. Need to up my leader to 30 I guess.
Both knots are great SC use with 10 lbs braid 10 lb mono never let me down
You have come a long way, since you started your channel. I've watched many of your videos. One of my favorites was when you answered the question of how much income you got after a year. After I seen that. I decided not to just quit my job for You Tube. 😆
Thank you JC, informative as always 👍🏻
Thanks for watching.
SC looks so much better. It performs very solid. I personally prefer the SC
The FG knot works better with Fluo than Monofilament. It cuts less just like you mentioned. 👍🏻
Bruh still using ie! Nice test appreciate it.
You need to use 60 lb. leader for your test. I have seen many 20 lb. braided lines break at 30 to 35 lbs. The 2 knots are 100% tied with the braid. Increasing the leader strength will take it out of the equation. You need the braid to break before the mono.
I think when you cut the edege of mono line, the edge of mono became sharp (and hard). Under high tension the braided line at the end of knot rubbed against the sharp mono edge causing the braided kine to fail
Great video. One point of feedback. You should get or make a line puller. It will save your hands.
Yeah JC try that with a couple of dowels to save your hands. Good tests but operator error could be in play on the actual knot breaks. #braidwillcutyouthough
Just for fairness to both knots, you seem to be pulling mostly with the right hand which may sway the results.
over time ive chose the fg. its slimmer and with practice can be tied pretty quick
I've used the FG knot to catch tuna, wahoo, and marlin, and it's yet to fail me. The SC does look like less of a chore to tie, so I'll be trying it when the opportunity presents itself.
Why would you count the breakage on the SC Knot if the braided line broke? It is actually saying.... the knot is so strong that your line will break first. As far as I'm concerned the SC Knot is 4 out of 4 to not break. I have been using FG Knot in all my main to leader line connections. I will be trying the SC knot since it looks easier to tie. Thank you for sharing the test.
Ooh
Anticipating
SC folds the main line back to the gap between 2 and creates the weak point that breaks, that is braided line cut itself, the result is 5050
Use a couple of wash rags to wrap that line around…or wood dowels…doesn’t hurt your hands. Just a suggestion.
good demo
Very interesting JC. They both appear to be good knots. I'm wondering how much effect the strength & thinkness of the mainline & leader would have on the knot slipping? As I've mentioned before, I don't use braid, so my go-to setup for shore bait fishing here in the UK is 25-30Lb mono, and a 60-80Lb leader. There is a rule of thumb here about using a leader 10x in Lbs of the weight in ozs. So if casting with a 5oz weight, you need a minimum of a 50Lb leader to prevent 'crack offs'. Also, the leader needs to be a little more than 2x the length of the rod, so that you have a few turns around the reel spool before you cast.
Try the Rufus, it was developed for max strenght mono to leader.
@@steverpcb Never heard of that one, nor has Mr Google!
@@trampster7306 Not google, The Way Back Machine )
Have to wonder about actual use. Wear & tear thru the rod guides... I guess the SC would hold up better.
How do you tie a loop knot I just don’t get it
I'll take the Alberto for ease of tying
Looks like they were pretty equal but the f g knot is thiner!
I’m wonder if the line is cutting itself at the knot on the SC.
An if the FG is ding the same further past the knot.
Can't say which one stronger. But SC more easier and faster to tied .Hence it better for novice like me.
Hi JC, interesting video. Man you've got some upper arm strength breaking lines of that strength!
Your choice of lines is what I would call 'real world'. It's the type of combination an angler would use.
Therefore, a 'real world' test would first involve testing the braid on its own to destruction several times by wrapping it around the hook of some digital scales and breaking it. This establishes the maximum capability of the weaker line without a knot. As fluorocarbon is a popular choice of leader material with different properties to mono, each knot should be tested against this as well, and the results compared. Try to keep the same number of twists and turns the same to see if one knot is any more grippy than the other. I doubt you would find much of a difference because they both seem excellent knots where the line strengths are similar.
Then, still keeping with your mono and fluoro of 20-25 lbs, drop the braid down to about 11 lbs b/s. Test it as before on its own to make sure it can deliver that performance. Increase the amount of braid turns used to account for the thinner diameter but keep it the same for both knots on both materials. This is more of an 'unreal world test' which is designed to show how much of a part line diameter mismatch plays in each knot's performance. Undoubtedly, both SC and FG Knots could be tuned up to give max performance by increasing the braid turns, but it would be interesting to know whether one needed less 'tuning' than the other suggesting that it was the more grippy of the two. This is far more of an extreme test as the line diameters will be so disparate - unreal, yes, but it will show any differences.
Final thoughts. Assumptions cannot be trusted where braid is concerned. Accurate testing will validate or nullify one's assumptions. I recall devising a line-to-line knot to rival the performance of the FG Knot (which I couldn't tie at the time - one big advantage of the SC Knot). It passed the foregoing test at the first time of asking. So, I had what I wanted, or did I? I assumed that it would be as good with braid to braid because it passed this extreme test. It was hopeless!
Only my latest creation can claim this honour, but whilst not bloated when it comes to profile, it cannot match the slimness of an FG or SC Knot.
I'd like to see that knot. Post a video!
I like the ingenuity of the test. Interesting. Is it normal for saltwater guys to use stronger mono than than braid? In my experience in freshwater the leader is lower rated line like 10/12#, 20/50#.
Stronger leader is for more toothy critters and chafing against rocks, barnacles etc. In clear open water for dolphin, sailfish, tuna etc. if line visibility is a factor we scale down on the leader diameter. One plus of using a leader weaker than the mainline is you don't have to respool as often due to losing a long section of line in a breakoff. In the Amazon fishing dark water I still use a stronger leader or at least double the braid at the lure where all the pressure is concentrated at a small area.
OK.
but why does the SC knot broke in front of the mono...
does the SC pinch itself and cut...
I understand that the Fg cut through the Mono.
IT IS PREFERABLE THAT THE MONO BREAK BEFORE THE KNOT
That wouldn't be fair to say unless you tested to see at what poundage it broke. If it breaks at 20 pounds or more, we'll, something is going to have to break. So that really doesn't prove anything
I have tried both of these knots dozens of times and I absolutely can’t get them to stick. They always slip on me. I have watched dozens of videos on how to tie these knots and no matter what I do both knots will never bite into the fluorocarbon leader. I am using 10-14lb fluorocarbon and 20-30 pound suffix 131 braid.
uni to uni knots for small leader.
I think it`s because you are using fluorocarbon thinner than braid. These knots works when the thinner braid bites into the fluorcarbon/mono.
Any break offs I get are always right next to the knot.
Both are good. Sc is larger than fg.
But SC knot is thickest than FG. And it affect the cast smooth.
Oh and please test them one by one with load test and see where's knot that resist heavier load.
Btw i'm a FG fan 😃
thanks for watching! you're right. I already did my test, you do one for yourself.
NOT consistent pull pressures…varies from hand to hand/knot to hand….need different source of applied pressure/pull!
How is there a dislike with no views? Hating much?
Hey... I’m moving to Florida in 2 days from Chicago...I have nothing, and curious what you would recommend That I get to start my fishing adventure? I watched your Walmart video and that’s where I’ll start but want your advice.
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I cant figure out how to make that damn sc knot....fg knot is already easy...i can do it in 20 mph winds no prob...if it aint broke...
Only one thing I can say...never tie the FG knot when using a thin braided mainline. For heavier braided mainline, no contest between FG and SC knots. Keep reviewing buddy. :)
Trouble with the SC knot is it doesnt work on light braid like say 4kg..
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yep, I always use a uni to uni with lighter lines.
Tested long enough ? is it bad on thin brainds/monos
I use the sc on 6lb braid to flouro works a treat
Maybe cigarette lighter would help to.smothen the edge of mono
Tied the FG knot on my line. When it got wet it slipped off .
We've done enough test to know that FG does not break off by the knot under load. not from two ppl pull test, not from a weight test.
unless your FG knot wasn't tied to the right spec, otherwise FG knot does not un tie itself whether it's finished with half hitches or Zirutto.
Well in this video it broke inside of the knot, not trickery here. I can assure you there's noting wrong with the way the FG was tied in this video. Try it with the same pond test braided line and leader that I used in this video and you'll get the same results I'm sure.
All this proves is that the FG is a better knot because it's as strong as smaller. Who wants a 2 inch long knot in their line?
SC knot is way, way, easier to tie and nearly as strong. If you set your drag correctly, it's a no brainer.
Sorry JC...that test is still questionable...to properly test a knot...you need that knot strength tester. When you use your hands and arm strength...it's variable. What if your have a stronger left arm to your right arm? I understand you flipped the lines...but a true test needs to show the some type of numbers using equal force on single lines. Not saying FG nor SC is more superior...but ill say SC is a great alternative as far as speed to tie on the fly. But over the years tying FGs...I can tie them very fast and I feel confident that it is 100% knot strength and as of yet...never failed me. But ill give it a shot.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
it does not matter which hand is stronger, the force on the line will be equal. A knot tester proves that......one end of the line is fixed. jus sayin
@@ABNHW really so you're saying you're playing tug o war with a rope...let say the same knots apply...one side you have a sumo wrestler and the other side a gorilla ...how can you say they're equal forces ...think about it... the strength on one side of the line could out power the counter strength to the other...that's why you need a knot tester that gives you the same force applied ...look up saltstrong...that's a more accurate tester...they just recently tested knots strengths on beyond braid vs. Power pro.
@@frankiev-tech4630 yes the forces at both ends are different and the resultant force would be in favor of whoever is stronger. But as far as the line holding them together is concerned, there is not more pulling on one side or the other. If 30 lbs of force on one end and ten lbs on the other, the resultant force is 20 lbs in the direction of the 30. But the line is soaking up the other 10 distributed evenly across its length.
no such thing as 100% knot strength.
SC wins cause it didn’t cut the mono.
SC knot won. Easy answer. 4 tries: 2 failed on FG and 0 on SC.
Sc knot is much better and much easier to tie who wants to spend to much time tieing a fg knot to have it cut throw ur leader to only losing ya fish
If SC knot 🪢 didn’t Fail it wins simple