Maybe depending on the circumstances there is a dominant soul, it could explain why someone like Merida’s mom behaved more like a bear than a human? And Mei has found a way to control the transformation between the souls? Because the ritual to get rid of the bear curse in Brave also took place inside a circle! (*idk maybe there’s something there? Lol)
So interesting! I don't think the relationship between Elinor and the bear is like Mei's with her panda... Unless it's a really different aspect Thxx for putting your comment in, I'm going to mull this over💜
Honestly somehow didn't make the connection between Soul and Turning Red. All I've been thinking is how this would affect Mei's "Inside Out" emotions. Would her emotions also switch between their regular forms and a 'Red Panda' form whenever either of them have to use the panel?
Further evidence to support this: Whenever Panda Mei is frightened, she instinctively raises her arms just like real red pandas do when they are threatened.
So they removed one of their souls, and placed it inside an inanimate object. Would that technically make the object they placed it in... a Horcrux? If someone with only one soul tried to perform this ritual, it obviously wouldn't work. But what if they murdered someone, and _then_ performed the ritual? Would it work then?
See I would go more to say that the ladies in Mei's family don't have two souls, but are born with one soul split into two. With the second half awakening when the ladies come of age. Because by the end of Turning Red Mei realizes she doesn't want to get rid of the panda spirit because it IS apart of her. And clearly the aunts and everyone else aren't getting RID of their pandas, but just containing them, since they were able to get those forms back again to save Mei's mother.
Yes. I'm thinking, it seems you're only allowed to break the containment in the jewelry, of the Panda spirits/selves/forces (may the Force be with you), when there's an absolute need like with Mei's mum. HOW do they figure out to go back to their human form so easily if the Panda has been locked away for 40 odd years.... Why would you need a trinket to keep the Panda locked in, if you can switch at will... Or is it because when you're triggered, the Panda will go nuts, and you need the jewel THEN, to prevent the irreparable. The rest of the day, I'm fine... Fluffy tails💐🙂just my 2 cents
A slight twist on this theory: twin souls in the body, rather than gifting it at a later date? It could be that Sun Yee, asked for the gift to turn into the red panda, and the Jerry’s gifted her that second soul, but over time, as it was gifted to all female descendants, they were born with Twin souls (this would account for the count being off centuries before, but not any more). And the ceremony to remove the red panda spirit could be the severing of the tie between the two spirits, as a surgery to separate conjoined twins.
@@ChazX Her soul was in the zone, the reason why she had a time limit was cause her soul would have become one of the wondering monsters and Merida wouldnt have been able to get to her. Her mothers soul would be unreachable...
And doesn’t the sign spinner say something about “moving into the house of Gemini” at 6:30pm? I wonder if the 4*Town Concert in Turning Red is at this time. Gemini=Twins.
In regards to the Jerry's helping vs. Not helping, we already know that our population grew over time, so Astral interference probably just died down over time as a sheer numbers game. "Well we can't break the rules to help here bc there's so many people who are in need of help" is what i imagine the mindset is so it was probably much more common when there was literally less people who needed help 🥰🥰🥰
@@agustinfranco0 Yes they do but that only reinforces that view, because then they have seen more and more ppl needing help. And in effect it helping humanity less and less because it effects less of the percent of people on earth.
Is it possible that the two spirits fused together? Or is it a sort of conjoined twin thing, but the spiritual version? The fact that the initial separation that Mei was going through was spiritually painful, and likely the same for her mother and elders. That could be likened to the surgery to separate twins… Twin souls inhabiting a single body, and some embrace the twin and others repudiate it.
When joe got put into the cat it was not planned, therefore it did not work. If the Jerry’s helped, it would be planed, and they would be able to make accommodations.
I assumed the red panda was a spirit that lived inside her body and gave her the red panda transformation and not a second soul. ETA: Alebrije‘s are spirits living in the spirit world that aren’t souls. They also have the ability to inhabit a living creature. Dante the Xolo dog is a good example in my opinion!
Spirits and souls are often considered synonymous, and Pixar really hasn't listed any difference between them at this point. I think its safe to assume they're the same thing in the Pixar Universe.
If toys can have souls, I think that buzz has two souls. One for English and one for Spanish mode. When buzz goes into Spanish mode, he is a completely different person. Having two souls could explain this phenomenon.
Or it could be a personality based on the Spanish localisation of the Buzz Lightyear TV show within the Toy Story universe. Like how his default personality matched his character to a tee.
Also, fun fact: the Spanish and Latin American versions of the film still have him speaking Spanish, but with a much thicker Andalucian accent (even more so in Spain). This would be the cultural equivalent of giving him a Texas cowboy accent in English.
I don't notice a difference in personality just a boost to the emotional states of the characters. I can't deny there is a similarity in the rituals, but if the panda is a soul, then shouldn't Mei Lin encounter them in the Astral plane, or even her own pandas soul separated from her own soul, but stiil tethered? I think the point of Turning Red is that life is about accepting all of your heritage, not just the good parts, and embracing them. What you guys are describing here is more of a Moon Knight situation with 2 personalities possessing a single vessel.
This was a really great video, bringing in multiple films and having it all make sense. The only other Pixar characters that transform are Merida's mom and Jack-Jack. Unless Jack-Jack is sharing his soul with banished Monsters for reasons I can't fathom, I think he probably keeps his own soul the whole time.
Imagine being 22 and then realizing that now you're finally on Earth and you still don't get your own soul you're just a panda trapped in another girl's body that somebody kicked out
Probably late to noticing this but it's funny how the sponsorship yellow bar starts fast then slows to a crawl making you think it will be much shorter than it is. How very Windows of you :P
If Mei lin's sould leaves her body when she turns into the panda (entering the zone), how is it shes able to maintain connections with the world around her? She carries conversations and is paying avid attention to the people and places around her, which is something people in the zone wouldnt do, as they would be to focused or lost in whatever activity theyre engaged in
It's a cute theory, I like the idea, but I have to ask, if Mei-Mei is basically letting the panda soul take possession of her body and removing her own soul (assuming I understood that right) then how do you explain the end of the movie where she's able to use only part of the transformation.
If I understand the theory right, it's only the panda that displaces the human soul. When she's in human form, the panda spirit is still present, and can affect part or all of her body (they mentioned her red hair). To use a Disney-adjacent example, it's like Steven/Marc in Moon Knight, where Marc can sometimes move a hand or arm even when Steven is in control.
The Red Panda is more of a totemic animal (in the shamanic sense) than an extra soul... It is a common concept throughout many cultures (eg see the bear in Brave), individuals or entire clans are granted protection by a spirit and can sometimes morph into it/ritually assume its powers, usually through dance etc. It's closer to the idea of a "guardian angel" than it is to a second soul.
But when Mei's soul goes into the zone, and the panda soul takes over, the panda is still Mei though. cos it's just Mei talking and all in panda form with full memories of Mei. If it really were another soul then, when it is just the panda soul in Mei, it would not have the exact same memories, behaviour, and mannerisms as Mei though
So until Red Panda spirit placed in some sort of amulet it resin in person hair. Because hair is a gift from the parents to be treated with utmost respect.
Does that mean that the place Mei goes is her culture’s version of the afterlife in Coco and her ancestors are there because they are remembered remembered.
She's not in the zone whenever the panda comes out though, the zone is a blissful zen state and the panda comes out when she's angry too. More likely one soul split into two instead of two souls. She's still herself when she's the panda, just... Whole.
It would be interesting to see how this two souls theory would play in brave. You know with the mum being a bear and all. As well as seeing the whisp creatures being like souls as well
Following this theory that means that sharing your body with the soul of something else it could change your appearance and give you the monstrous appearance? A little like monsters could that be the evolution explanation of monster inc?
I'd like to add to the lost souls, you mentioned becoming absorbed or obsessed with a hobby or diving into a passion so deep you no longer love it, but I'd like to add people that are suffering from burnout as it has a similar outside appearance as the other examples and many people that suffer from burnout end up kind of lost and in need of completing a task or tasks that they just can't complete or at least feel like they can't complete it. Moonwind helping them out of the Astral Plane helps them out of the burnout long enough to get the task complete and handle the burnout from there
Soul in jewelry....I keep thinking horcrux. 😂 I know in that case, it's a piece of a soul...but still, Slytherin's locket is a very famous soul jewelery.
I love the fact they chose the decision to make 22s soul to go into Joe bc imagine if 22s first time in earth they were a Cat. Can't eat pizza, can't talk, can't help, can't do anything. Also 22 is the best mentor because they had every mentor. So having the knowledge but didn't have the spark of life because they've never seen or experienced life before.
Ok, but like, if it's a different soul, then why is she exactly the same person with the same memories while in Panda form? The souls in Soul seem to have their memories and personality tied to their souls? She's not a different person in panda form, so there's something still missing from this theory. I like where this is going though
We’re full Kingdom hearts here. I think it would be for Sora to explore both the great before from soul and the land of dead in Coco in Kingdom hearts 4. Do the fact Sora has face some type of death.
Imagine dying while you are in zone, this must be some of better experiences of it. Once I’ve met a priest who said he wanted to die while saying mass and I think thats what he meant
I think Merida’s mom has two souls. When Merida asked Boo for a spell, she exchanged a piece of jewelry for the cake and then her mom turned into a bear when she ate it. The longer she was the bear, the more she acted like one while still retaining bits of herself. I think Mordu is the same way. The only difference is that when he didn’t turn back before the deadline, the bear soul took over completely while his other soul was trapped inside while unable to control his actions and was only freed after he died.
There’s another important factor. Joe asks Jerry 1 why they look a certain way to which she says it’s to comprehend an appearance their minds will see. So to explain why Joe, Mei, and Miguel see different versions of the afterlife is because that’s how they visualize it. We don’t know what the afterlife exactly looks like; just the way our minds see it.
no bc even when she is a panda they have the same personality in the movie souls all souls have a different personality so if she did have 2 when the panda comes out the panda would have to be whole other spirit and also if she did we would've heard about it in the movie and they would've talked about like it was a mistake
As much as I love the Pixar Theory, our stubborn need to find loop holes and reasons for it to work is probably compromising and damaging Pixar's true message to the world and its viewers when it comes to these films regarding the afterlife and souls, which I wholeheartedly believe is that all our religions and beliefs are real, and we can all coexist peacefully without judging the traditions and beliefs of others. For example like Coco, Soul, and Turning Red, but we insist on trying to make them all work with each other to make the Pixar Theory work, when we know the after life in Soul and Coco are undeniably different.
So they really don’t need to find these looos to make them fit cause they already do. Regardless of the religious or cultural beliefs each movie is set in
Emperor’s New Groove theory. The squirrels used to be people. If you watch the ending of one emperor’s new school episode, a squirrel is seen escaping a trap like Houdini. This can prove that these squirrels have human intelligence, and is also the reason they are unafraid of people. And since Kuzco knows that Yuma has a secret lab, as a younger emperor, he probably made Yama turn some peasants into squirrels.
Or maybe her previous henchmen before Kronk showed up, Kuzco does reference her henchmen as "models", meaning she has them replaced after they’ve completed their obligations to be her accomplices, and uses the potions to transform them after they’ve completed their usefulness for her, which also could indicate she’s been involved with alchemy for longer than Kuzco knows. The spider that Kuzco encountered In the jungle scene could’ve previously been her (meaning Yzma) henchmen long before Kronk. It does very faintly say "too late" after the fly says "help me" in a somewhat squeaky voice, which could be both previous henchmen defeating themselves. The reason this might be the case is that her underground lab could’ve been built for the purpose of transforming the many henchmen before Kronk, which also ties into Kuzco’s parents death, in that their death was because they found out that Yzma had built her secret lab without their approval, since they were the Emperor / Empress before Kuzco took their place. She was trying desperately to keep her secret lab under wraps without any of the palace people (even Kuzco’s parents) from finding it out, which helped start her path of hiring henchmen to prevent people from exposing her underground lab.
Since I was on babysitting duty tonight we watched this movie again. Now I can't keep asking myself this question so I'm gonna ask it here. Has anyone ever thought about what happened to all the ancestors' red panda totems, like what happens to those spirits/accessories after their host dies? What happens to grandma's 4-Town medallion after she passes??
It would make so much sense that she has 2 souls and when the panda soul came in to her, it was 22. 22 found her spark was watching other people enjoy themselves on Earth(be their true selves). Mei is not enjoying herself because she has to live up to the expectations of her mother because her family is so important to her,which is also something 22 seems to care a lot about. I think 22 needed all that training so that she could give Mei the power to break the family's tradition of spurning a gift from the gods"jerrys". And because of all of her various mentors she is able to mentor Mei into becoming the person that she truly is and learn how to control her emotions effectively.
I guess joe could have had 2 souls in the cat body, because we see the cat’s souls going to the great beyond, and we also see it back alive at the end so the cat had mutiple souls, so joe was at the same body as a cat’s soul.
HOLD UP! I have a question that i just thought of while watching this... If someone in Mei's family dies while having the red panda soul separated from her body (in the jewelry), since its contained and separate from her actual body, does that second soul pass on with the original soul when she dies, or is it still "alive" since its been kept "alive"/contained in an inanimate object?? Like all the aunts and Mei's mother and grandmother keep the jewelry where their panda is contained on them at all times, sooo does that mean the panda soul is aware of their wearer's presence and need to be kept close by, or maybe they do it for safe keeping 🤔🤔🤔🤔
So do the toys in Toy Story get their spirits from the astral plane? If Mei's family knows how to store red panda spirits in jewlery, maybe people can store spirits in toys. Yes, I know the theory on this channel is that Woody is the only toy known to have a soul, which is why I said spirit. Mind you, it seems as though in toy story all toys are alive, so if they get their spirits from human rituals, how come there aren't some toys without spirits? Well, what about the theory that toys come alive when people form meories with them? Well, what if people forming memories with the toys **IS** the ritual that gives them spirits? What if Woody deciding to be with Bo Peep was the rituals that gave him not just a spirit, but a soul?
Also conclusions: animals have souls! Red pandas but also any animal. Do you think any animal soul could be compatible with human souls? If no, what's your theory for why only red pandas!?
I think the reason different cultures see the after and pre life differently is because it’s all hypothetical. There is no concrete answer that we could comprehend so we create an imagined version of it and whichever version we understand is the one we experience.
Oh man - rabbit hole - ready? Everyone who can change shape/being would then likely be able to do so because of having two souls - The bear change magic - Luca and friends.... etc.
Maybe depending on the circumstances there is a dominant soul, it could explain why someone like Merida’s mom behaved more like a bear than a human? And Mei has found a way to control the transformation between the souls? Because the ritual to get rid of the bear curse in Brave also took place inside a circle! (*idk maybe there’s something there? Lol)
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So interesting! I don't think the relationship between Elinor and the bear is like Mei's with her panda... Unless it's a really different aspect
Thxx for putting your comment in, I'm going to mull this over💜
This opens up so much possibility
I love it
There’s defenitely something there👌🤔
I ENJOY THIS THEORY
Honestly somehow didn't make the connection between Soul and Turning Red.
All I've been thinking is how this would affect Mei's "Inside Out" emotions. Would her emotions also switch between their regular forms and a 'Red Panda' form whenever either of them have to use the panel?
** ...I guess only her Anger would actually still be a "red" panda. The other emotions would probably be their respective colors' panda.
Further evidence to support this: Whenever Panda Mei is frightened, she instinctively raises her arms just like real red pandas do when they are threatened.
Headcanon accepted! 🤩 I need fanart of this now 🥰🥰🥰
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So they removed one of their souls, and placed it inside an inanimate object. Would that technically make the object they placed it in... a Horcrux? If someone with only one soul tried to perform this ritual, it obviously wouldn't work. But what if they murdered someone, and _then_ performed the ritual? Would it work then?
the Pixogwarts Theory!
the real multiverse of madness
Well... since we don't and probably won't ever know how to make a horcrux I think this is acceptable.
We will talk about this only when pixar makes a Harry Potter movie
i know my potterheads when i see them
I love all these theories. They’re so good at coming up with all these evidence. Regardless if they’re right or wrong it is fun to ponder the ideas
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@@lorenzo5488 what?
Exactly what I was thinking!
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@@RaptorRed Search up WEF reset, it’s a pretty cool rabbit hole
See I would go more to say that the ladies in Mei's family don't have two souls, but are born with one soul split into two. With the second half awakening when the ladies come of age. Because by the end of Turning Red Mei realizes she doesn't want to get rid of the panda spirit because it IS apart of her. And clearly the aunts and everyone else aren't getting RID of their pandas, but just containing them, since they were able to get those forms back again to save Mei's mother.
I actually agree with this a lot more
Yes. I'm thinking, it seems you're only allowed to break the containment in the jewelry, of the Panda spirits/selves/forces (may the Force be with you), when there's an absolute need like with Mei's mum. HOW do they figure out to go back to their human form so easily if the Panda has been locked away for 40 odd years.... Why would you need a trinket to keep the Panda locked in, if you can switch at will... Or is it because when you're triggered, the Panda will go nuts, and you need the jewel THEN, to prevent the irreparable. The rest of the day, I'm fine... Fluffy tails💐🙂just my 2 cents
A slight twist on this theory: twin souls in the body, rather than gifting it at a later date?
It could be that Sun Yee, asked for the gift to turn into the red panda, and the Jerry’s gifted her that second soul, but over time, as it was gifted to all female descendants, they were born with Twin souls (this would account for the count being off centuries before, but not any more). And the ceremony to remove the red panda spirit could be the severing of the tie between the two spirits, as a surgery to separate conjoined twins.
I think this makes a lot of sense
Could the mother from brave had her soul replaced while she was a bear?
@@ChazX Her soul was in the zone, the reason why she had a time limit was cause her soul would have become one of the wondering monsters and Merida wouldnt have been able to get to her. Her mothers soul would be unreachable...
And doesn’t the sign spinner say something about “moving into the house of Gemini” at 6:30pm? I wonder if the 4*Town Concert in Turning Red is at this time. Gemini=Twins.
In regards to the Jerry's helping vs. Not helping, we already know that our population grew over time, so Astral interference probably just died down over time as a sheer numbers game. "Well we can't break the rules to help here bc there's so many people who are in need of help" is what i imagine the mindset is so it was probably much more common when there was literally less people who needed help 🥰🥰🥰
this makes the most sense out of everything ive seen in the comments
dont they live outside of time tho?
@@agustinfranco0 Yes they do but that only reinforces that view, because then they have seen more and more ppl needing help. And in effect it helping humanity less and less because it effects less of the percent of people on earth.
Knowing pixar im not surprised that soul and turning red are linked. Its very clever but also very pixar
I’m curious how they’re able to have 2 souls, because when Joe got put in the cat, he kicked the cats soul out.
Is it possible that the two spirits fused together? Or is it a sort of conjoined twin thing, but the spiritual version? The fact that the initial separation that Mei was going through was spiritually painful, and likely the same for her mother and elders. That could be likened to the surgery to separate twins…
Twin souls inhabiting a single body, and some embrace the twin and others repudiate it.
When joe got put into the cat it was not planned, therefore it did not work. If the Jerry’s helped, it would be planed, and they would be able to make accommodations.
I believe the cat was already dying from obesity (not joking). I don't remember the movie but that's common among pet cats; they die from obesity.
The cat's soul didn't get kicked out; it kicked itself out at just the right time.
the jerrys made exceptions
I assumed the red panda was a spirit that lived inside her body and gave her the red panda transformation and not a second soul.
ETA: Alebrije‘s are spirits living in the spirit world that aren’t souls. They also have the ability to inhabit a living creature. Dante the Xolo dog is a good example in my opinion!
like an alebrije in coco?
Spirits and souls are often considered synonymous, and Pixar really hasn't listed any difference between them at this point. I think its safe to assume they're the same thing in the Pixar Universe.
@@ViewerEm yes things that have been distinguished as different than souls and can live inside a mortal vessel like Dante the Xolo dog.
Just started reading Harry Potter for the first time I’ve been loving it
If toys can have souls, I think that buzz has two souls. One for English and one for Spanish mode. When buzz goes into Spanish mode, he is a completely different person. Having two souls could explain this phenomenon.
Or it could be a personality based on the Spanish localisation of the Buzz Lightyear TV show within the Toy Story universe. Like how his default personality matched his character to a tee.
Also, fun fact: the Spanish and Latin American versions of the film still have him speaking Spanish, but with a much thicker Andalucian accent (even more so in Spain). This would be the cultural equivalent of giving him a Texas cowboy accent in English.
@@DrRank interesting
I hope this is explained in the new lightyear film
@@BigStackBlunder It probably won't be, considering it's not about the toy, but I like to count my men dressed in chicken suits after they hatch.
I don't notice a difference in personality just a boost to the emotional states of the characters.
I can't deny there is a similarity in the rituals, but if the panda is a soul, then shouldn't Mei Lin encounter them in the Astral plane, or even her own pandas soul separated from her own soul, but stiil tethered?
I think the point of Turning Red is that life is about accepting all of your heritage, not just the good parts, and embracing them.
What you guys are describing here is more of a Moon Knight situation with 2 personalities possessing a single vessel.
I love how the gods of this crazy universe are a bunch of scribbles named jerry
This was a really great video, bringing in multiple films and having it all make sense. The only other Pixar characters that transform are Merida's mom and Jack-Jack. Unless Jack-Jack is sharing his soul with banished Monsters for reasons I can't fathom, I think he probably keeps his own soul the whole time.
Imagine being 22 and then realizing that now you're finally on Earth and you still don't get your own soul you're just a panda trapped in another girl's body that somebody kicked out
i always wondered ever since turning red came out I’ve been wondering if 22 becomes Mei
Probably late to noticing this but it's funny how the sponsorship yellow bar starts fast then slows to a crawl making you think it will be much shorter than it is. How very Windows of you :P
But then why does maylin kepp her personality as a panda and her mom kinda lost soul when she got REALLY mad
It is ALMOST flawless. I think she and her family actually get an extra SPIRIT, which would be different from a SOUL.
If Mei lin's sould leaves her body when she turns into the panda (entering the zone), how is it shes able to maintain connections with the world around her? She carries conversations and is paying avid attention to the people and places around her, which is something people in the zone wouldnt do, as they would be to focused or lost in whatever activity theyre engaged in
5:09 I love how you cut that scene.
All I saw was "Mei has 2 souls" and already I'm like YES
Yeah, that's... basically the adjust of it.
I think that the people on the axiom may be lost souls, who can back to their senses thank to Wall-E
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I never noticed how similar turning red and soul were but its actually almost identical 😅
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@@lorenzo5488 yeah, we own nothing since centuries ago and the corporations wants us to be happy with all their movies, fotball and talk shows.
It's a cute theory, I like the idea, but I have to ask, if Mei-Mei is basically letting the panda soul take possession of her body and removing her own soul (assuming I understood that right) then how do you explain the end of the movie where she's able to use only part of the transformation.
If I understand the theory right, it's only the panda that displaces the human soul. When she's in human form, the panda spirit is still present, and can affect part or all of her body (they mentioned her red hair). To use a Disney-adjacent example, it's like Steven/Marc in Moon Knight, where Marc can sometimes move a hand or arm even when Steven is in control.
Perhaps, in most cases, one soul dominates at a time. In Mei's case, and probably Sun Yee and some other ancestors too, the two souls are in harmony.
learning to work together
I love this, but I wonder how to explain the partial changes, like just her red panda ears?
I think this is when she allows most of her red panda soul to take over? IDK but I think so?
"The similarities are just too... similar." Wiser words have yet to be spoken.
I actually got the same thought when watching the movie and hearing "Astral Realm" appear in it.
The Red Panda is more of a totemic animal (in the shamanic sense) than an extra soul... It is a common concept throughout many cultures (eg see the bear in Brave), individuals or entire clans are granted protection by a spirit and can sometimes morph into it/ritually assume its powers, usually through dance etc. It's closer to the idea of a "guardian angel" than it is to a second soul.
Sounds like torture for the piece of soul being contained.
you'd think the oldest soul In the world .
would be the most important person in history. like Boo.
an Joe ended up in the body of a kitty
But when Mei's soul goes into the zone, and the panda soul takes over, the panda is still Mei though. cos it's just Mei talking and all in panda form with full memories of Mei. If it really were another soul then, when it is just the panda soul in Mei, it would not have the exact same memories, behaviour, and mannerisms as Mei though
I sometimes feel in the zone while playing ping-pong, I just react naturally without thinking
These Pixar theories are so interesting. It's amazing how well they fit together.
gonna have to buy.. this now.. i got the soul movie.
GOLDEN!.
22 " I MADE HER.. CRY!..."
🤨 ??
So until Red Panda spirit placed in some sort of amulet it resin in person hair. Because hair is a gift from the parents to be treated with utmost respect.
Does that mean that the place Mei goes is her culture’s version of the afterlife in Coco and her ancestors are there because they are remembered remembered.
that bucktoothed soul really does personify smugness
Notice that the ancestor Sun Yee is worshipped by the family and hence never forgotten so her soul lives on for 100s of years.
She's not in the zone whenever the panda comes out though, the zone is a blissful zen state and the panda comes out when she's angry too. More likely one soul split into two instead of two souls. She's still herself when she's the panda, just... Whole.
10:30 . he didnt" die"
he knocked out into a coma
or a scam.. ?.
It would be interesting to see how this two souls theory would play in brave. You know with the mum being a bear and all. As well as seeing the whisp creatures being like souls as well
Following this theory that means that sharing your body with the soul of something else it could change your appearance and give you the monstrous appearance? A little like monsters could that be the evolution explanation of monster inc?
I ❤️ the Pixar Theory and your theories about Pixar characters!
Would this be the same in the zone when Remi is tasting food in Ratatouille?
If Mey-Lin's human soul is out of her body when she turns into a panda, how come she's still (mostly) in control on her body she's in that form?
So Mei's just Pixar's version of Doppio and Diavolo, and a fursona instead of King Crimson?
Nice.
I'd like to add to the lost souls, you mentioned becoming absorbed or obsessed with a hobby or diving into a passion so deep you no longer love it, but I'd like to add people that are suffering from burnout as it has a similar outside appearance as the other examples and many people that suffer from burnout end up kind of lost and in need of completing a task or tasks that they just can't complete or at least feel like they can't complete it. Moonwind helping them out of the Astral Plane helps them out of the burnout long enough to get the task complete and handle the burnout from there
Literally rewatched turning red an hour ago and noticed the same thing
The only thing I have on this is that Mei is still in control of the Red Panda when she changes.
OK this brings up a new question, why do "souls" need glasses? And #2 - How many souls are in "Marc's" body in "Moon Knight"?
May we all just pay our respects to the thousands of Mongolian soldier's that were brutally mangled and torn to shreds by the hands of Sun Yi 😔🙏
Soul in jewelry....I keep thinking horcrux. 😂
I know in that case, it's a piece of a soul...but still, Slytherin's locket is a very famous soul jewelery.
I love the fact they chose the decision to make 22s soul to go into Joe bc imagine if 22s first time in earth they were a Cat. Can't eat pizza, can't talk, can't help, can't do anything.
Also 22 is the best mentor because they had every mentor. So having the knowledge but didn't have the spark of life because they've never seen or experienced life before.
Ok, but like, if it's a different soul, then why is she exactly the same person with the same memories while in Panda form? The souls in Soul seem to have their memories and personality tied to their souls? She's not a different person in panda form, so there's something still missing from this theory.
I like where this is going though
We’re full Kingdom hearts here. I think it would be for Sora to explore both the great before from soul and the land of dead in Coco in Kingdom hearts 4. Do the fact Sora has face some type of death.
I finally watched Turning Red last night, now I can finally watch all the theories! Next is Encanto.
you can watch many movies in one day they're really not a big deal there's no need to wait no one cares what you watch anyway
Imagine dying while you are in zone, this must be some of better experiences of it. Once I’ve met a priest who said he wanted to die while saying mass and I think thats what he meant
I still only hear "Trick or Treat" in that scene. I know what he's saying but I still hear it
I watch these often during prep, and sometime during the school year they went from not watchable by students to watchable by students at my school
Could braves mom have a second soul in the form of a bear
I think Merida’s mom has two souls. When Merida asked Boo for a spell, she exchanged a piece of jewelry for the cake and then her mom turned into a bear when she ate it. The longer she was the bear, the more she acted like one while still retaining bits of herself. I think Mordu is the same way. The only difference is that when he didn’t turn back before the deadline, the bear soul took over completely while his other soul was trapped inside while unable to control his actions and was only freed after he died.
Who came up with the ridiculous theory that Boo traveled back in time and became a witch?
There’s another important factor. Joe asks Jerry 1 why they look a certain way to which she says it’s to comprehend an appearance their minds will see. So to explain why Joe, Mei, and Miguel see different versions of the afterlife is because that’s how they visualize it. We don’t know what the afterlife exactly looks like; just the way our minds see it.
I guess Merida’s mum have two souls when she transformed into a Bear 🐻 (heck The Stones kind have form in a circle shape)
I love y’all’s videos I’ve been watching for 3 years now
wonder if the zones are the island of personality
This moment was remarkable tone death in Soul.
Why is it called the towel section?
no bc even when she is a panda they have the same personality in the movie souls all souls have a different personality so if she did have 2 when the panda comes out the panda would have to be whole other spirit and also if she did we would've heard about it in the movie and they would've talked about like it was a mistake
As much as I love the Pixar Theory, our stubborn need to find loop holes and reasons for it to work is probably compromising and damaging Pixar's true message to the world and its viewers when it comes to these films regarding the afterlife and souls, which I wholeheartedly believe is that all our religions and beliefs are real, and we can all coexist peacefully without judging the traditions and beliefs of others. For example like Coco, Soul, and Turning Red, but we insist on trying to make them all work with each other to make the Pixar Theory work, when we know the after life in Soul and Coco are undeniably different.
The thing is that these all could work in the same universe/ just like how our after life beliefs all are true in our universe
So they really don’t need to find these looos to make them fit cause they already do. Regardless of the religious or cultural beliefs each movie is set in
Emperor’s New Groove theory. The squirrels used to be people. If you watch the ending of one emperor’s new school episode, a squirrel is seen escaping a trap like Houdini. This can prove that these squirrels have human intelligence, and is also the reason they are unafraid of people. And since Kuzco knows that Yuma has a secret lab, as a younger emperor, he probably made Yama turn some peasants into squirrels.
Or maybe her previous henchmen before Kronk showed up, Kuzco does reference her henchmen as "models", meaning she has them replaced after they’ve completed their obligations to be her accomplices, and uses the potions to transform them after they’ve completed their usefulness for her, which also could indicate she’s been involved with alchemy for longer than Kuzco knows. The spider that Kuzco encountered In the jungle scene could’ve previously been her (meaning Yzma) henchmen long before Kronk. It does very faintly say "too late" after the fly says "help me" in a somewhat squeaky voice, which could be both previous henchmen defeating themselves.
The reason this might be the case is that her underground lab could’ve been built for the purpose of transforming the many henchmen before Kronk, which also ties into Kuzco’s parents death, in that their death was because they found out that Yzma had built her secret lab without their approval, since they were the Emperor / Empress before Kuzco took their place. She was trying desperately to keep her secret lab under wraps without any of the palace people (even Kuzco’s parents) from finding it out, which helped start her path of hiring henchmen to prevent people from exposing her underground lab.
You haven't fully convinced me on the 'two souls' thing, but great video nonetheless!
I thought this was obvious. I liked the full explanation you gave, but the fact that her own and the panda's souls are seperate was obvious to me.
Since I was on babysitting duty tonight we watched this movie again. Now I can't keep asking myself this question so I'm gonna ask it here. Has anyone ever thought about what happened to all the ancestors' red panda totems, like what happens to those spirits/accessories after their host dies? What happens to grandma's 4-Town medallion after she passes??
It would make so much sense that she has 2 souls and when the panda soul came in to her, it was 22. 22 found her spark was watching other people enjoy themselves on Earth(be their true selves). Mei is not enjoying herself because she has to live up to the expectations of her mother because her family is so important to her,which is also something 22 seems to care a lot about. I think 22 needed all that training so that she could give Mei the power to break the family's tradition of spurning a gift from the gods"jerrys". And because of all of her various mentors she is able to mentor Mei into becoming the person that she truly is and learn how to control her emotions effectively.
"Well the 'government' calls it 6:30 🙄" Still my favorite line
Imagine they make a movie about Mei's Ancestor. I think it could he pretty ntertaining.
8:34 Joe also had to find the Thin Spot, Turning red they needed the Red Moon aka a Thin Spot
I guess joe could have had 2 souls in the cat body, because we see the cat’s souls going to the great beyond, and we also see it back alive at the end so the cat had mutiple souls, so joe was at the same body as a cat’s soul.
You know what they say, cats have 9 lives.
piece of soul inside jewelry?? Sounds like a horcrux to me!
Is it bad that at the end of every one of there episodes. I do that old phrase they used to say "these socks are amazing"
Was anyone else waiting for a "love horcrux" connection? Just me? Ok.
This was a pretty obscure fact that was not hidden at all.
The whole point of Turning red was for Mei to accept herself for who she really is. I think if there was another soul, it ruins the message.
I agree
HOLD UP! I have a question that i just thought of while watching this...
If someone in Mei's family dies while having the red panda soul separated from her body (in the jewelry), since its contained and separate from her actual body, does that second soul pass on with the original soul when she dies, or is it still "alive" since its been kept "alive"/contained in an inanimate object?? Like all the aunts and Mei's mother and grandmother keep the jewelry where their panda is contained on them at all times, sooo does that mean the panda soul is aware of their wearer's presence and need to be kept close by, or maybe they do it for safe keeping 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ben: Mei has 2 souls
Harry Potter: hold my butterbeer
I feel like the young prince-bear from brave might have two souls but he can’t control the spirit sooo
So do the toys in Toy Story get their spirits from the astral plane? If Mei's family knows how to store red panda spirits in jewlery, maybe people can store spirits in toys. Yes, I know the theory on this channel is that Woody is the only toy known to have a soul, which is why I said spirit.
Mind you, it seems as though in toy story all toys are alive, so if they get their spirits from human rituals, how come there aren't some toys without spirits? Well, what about the theory that toys come alive when people form meories with them? Well, what if people forming memories with the toys **IS** the ritual that gives them spirits? What if Woody deciding to be with Bo Peep was the rituals that gave him not just a spirit, but a soul?
Also conclusions: animals have souls! Red pandas but also any animal. Do you think any animal soul could be compatible with human souls? If no, what's your theory for why only red pandas!?
I think the reason different cultures see the after and pre life differently is because it’s all hypothetical. There is no concrete answer that we could comprehend so we create an imagined version of it and whichever version we understand is the one we experience.
Oh man - rabbit hole - ready? Everyone who can change shape/being would then likely be able to do so because of having two souls - The bear change magic - Luca and friends.... etc.
I always saw it as more of a spirit than a soul...but admittedly, the dividing line could be seen as hazy. Hehe.
its possible that they all have the same pandas soul, thats why the count dosent change every time
always the highlight of my week
I wonder if the short Inner Workings had any influence on the lost souls...
What about the whole joke of red heads not having souls?
I also noticed that Sun-ji does't have red hair when she turns into red panda (idk probabbly just a detail)
At first I was like “Nooo…”
Then I was like “WHAAAT?!”