The Movie That Secretly Inspired MGSV
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Though the friendship between game director Hideo Kojima and filmmaker Guillermo del Toro has been well established, virtually nobody has realized or commented on the crucial importance to 2015's METAL GEAR SOLID V played by del Toro's 2001 sleeper hit, 'The Devil's Backbone'. This is a brief video, as spoiler-free as possible, to illustrate some of the bigger connections.
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Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is a third-person action-adventure game developed by Kojima Productions and published by Konami for the Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC on September 1, 2015.
The tenth and final main installment of the Metal Gear series, Phantom Pain follows legendary mercenary Big Boss (now known by his codename "Venom Snake") as he awakens in 1984 from a nine-year coma following the destruction of his private military company "Militaires Sans Frontières". With help from his old business partner Kazuhira Miller and rival-turned-ally Revolver Ocelot, Snake must rebuild his mercenary army (now called "Diamond Dogs") while plotting revenge against the shadowy organization "Cipher," as well as its XOF paramilitary unit led by the enigmatic Skull Face.
Similar to its standalone prologue Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain focuses on executing mission objectives in open world environments set in both Soviet-occupied Afghanistan and the Angola-Zaire border region of central Africa, complete with dynamic weather and day-night systems. Stealth is a major component of gameplay, but often optional thanks to Snake's arsenal of combat gear. Players can also upgrade Diamond Dogs' new "Mother Base" in a fashion similar to Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, allowing them to develop new weapons and items. In addition to its single-player campaign, the game includes two player-vs-player multiplayer modes, as well as optional microtransactions and other paid downloadable content.
The Phantom Pain is notable as the final game in the series with involvement from series creator Hideo Kojima and his Kojima Productions team. Several months before the game's release, Konami began a major restructuring of its games division, ultimately leading to Kojima Productions being treated more as a contractor rather than an internal studio. Unlike prior Metal Gear titles from the same team, Kojima Productions' logo and branding is absent from promotional materials and packaging for the final game. After leaving Konami, Kojima would go on to establish a new independent studio with the same name in 2015.
The Phantom Pain was bundled together with Ground Zeroes and all DLC as Metal Gear Solid V: The Definitive Experience in late 2016 for Xbox One and PlayStation 4. Phantom Pain's gameplay and graphics engine were later reused for the 2018 survival-focused spin-off title Metal Gear Survive.
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Whenever I played mgsv, I always wished it would continue through at least to the end of the first Metal Gear
We all do brother, it’s clear there is a huge element of the game that is missing.
Metal Gear doesn't matter.
Venom does.
That would be a trip, pretty much a remake of Metal Gear, then meeting Solid Snake just to get beaten by him!
Expanding on this: your quest was a lie. MGSV burns the narrative down in flames. The big action Hollywood showdown you want? Metal Gear continually shows us how fruitless this image worship is, and V solidifies that hollowness. You get nothing except for endlessly recurring systemic war without end.
all of us bro
I remember watching "The Devil's Backbone" years ago when it came out on DVD and realizing immediately that it was a masterclass in film making. del Toro is a genius. I can't believe I didn't make the connection between MSGV and the movie.
Guillermo is quite possibly the best film director and most amazing person irl. It’s amazing how he just played himself in Death Stranding.
I had similar thoughts when I watched Del Toro's Pinocchio, there are a lot of shared themes between that and Death Stranding, but I didn't realise some of it went back as far as 2001, that's awesome!
WTF hahahahaha. No.
This recursive loop that Venom finds himself in is quite mirrored in our missing faceless friend, Skull Face. We're left burning forever. In Outer Heaven, in the burning weapons factory, in the burning hospital, burned at torturers hands, and recreating, by our own hands, our own recurring trauma at the quarantine factory, all while spreading war as a disease and deadly parasite.
I like to think of Skull Face as if almost a reincarnation of The Medics (ours?) lingering will. A man whose face has been burned away on countless occasion in fire, who seeks to undo the system that has imprisoned him here. We see Skull Faces will recur, like action and reaction, textually through "Liquid"'s continual presence later, both physically and in "will". With how much MGSV distorts our vision of "reality", who's to say everything isn't a reflection of the medic (our) actual selves. Tactfully contrasted with Venom: an empty vessel, a nothing. Reduced to Zero, with nothing to light up the dark in his eyes, it's all been sucked out from him.
Venom is just left there, stranded. Silent.
Skull Face speaks, broadly and loudly.
FOX vs XOF
"Peace Day never came"
Hugs and kisses and a big F you!
Always a good day when Futurasound uploads. Metal Gear Solid is my favorite game series of all time and it's so amazing to me that we have such quality deep dives into all the fassets of the games. It really feels like taking classes on my favorite game that I wanna learn and soak up every bit that I can.
Amazing job identifying these parallels, some of them I didn't even think about, like the horn-bomb. The halls mentioned really reminded me of the halls in mgsV intro, and the whole building in general, that hospital/orphanage vibe.
Amazing video as always! keep it up ❤
What a shame we’ll never have PT.
Reminds me of one of Kojima earlier games called Snatcher, it was heavily inspired by Blade Runner and the Terminator, hell even the first Metal Gear cover art is a modified picture of future war Kyle Reese
Kojimas translator was probably screaming "slow tf down!" in his ear mic.
very fun vid, Kojima's always been a film nerd so it's pretty interesting seeing just how far into Del Toro's works he's been influenced by. Devil's Backbone is one of Del Toro's favorite projects right up with Pan's Labyrinth and very recently Pinocchio. In fact, I find it amazing how Pinocchio not only dovetails motifs from Devil's Backbone (the idea of explosive events creating ghosts) but also in how "rebirth" is seen as explosive as seen in Death Stranding.
Noticing more and more there's media exploring this theme of "rebirth" in terms of changing your life in a dramatic way following some sort of traumatic event, whether physical, emotional or spiritual. It could be seen as a distant homage to Akira in that respect while leaning on the overall concept of the Big Bang.
Your videos are what make me want to wake up in the morning
Awesome analysis man! Love your videos! Definitely will be watching this movie on the weekend 👍🏼
Great video and really appreciate your input on the matter. I'll be checking this film out!
The floor of the Orphanage has a hexagonal pattern, just like the floor in the Cyprus Hospital.
And Big Shell
And Mother Base
Metal gear solid will forever be the greatest masterpiece he has ever made, a game way ahead of its time, and to this day still smacks modern games even with it’s dated graphics.
The Spanish language mentioned in this video may also cause some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the "good listener's" "internal timeline" "for a S-Special reason."
There's no escape from you
Wasn’t the original Metal Gear based on the Escape from “This location” movies with Kurt Russell? If I remember correctly his movie characters name was Pliskin Snake or something like that great films btw
Music is "Sea Breeze"
I would be interested in learning more Death Stranding inspirations.
Hideo's shoes are always on point, guy will never be seen without something crazy on
I can totally see the influences with the hospital at the beginning of metal gear v being inspired by the orphanage, by the way its also called el orfanato or the orphanage
Also what’s the name of the jazz song at the end? I remember it from MGS4
Are you going to be at MGS CON in July in LA?!
You have to look at mgsv as an unfinished psychological experiment, because it touches deeply on the theme of 'loss' before anything else, trauma, horror, war, demons and, angels if they were just able to stick to the paradise lost and lord of the flies themes, they could possibly reinvent the 'original' Metal Gear and have Liquid and Solid have parallel Synchronistic* events that branch into different games as they come to terms with who and what they really are. In the end its mostly about Man playing God with the whole splitting of the Atom/Adam, if you get where I'm going and The Boss's original intent of leaving the world as it is.
The saga is a masterpiece, regardless of its imperfections.
'Retreat or face the arms of Heaven.' Lucifer to Death -Paradise Lost-
I've been watching videos of military folk analyzing movie scenes and it's really just pointed out how MGS, including V, is entirely comprised of explicit references to movie scenes.
I'd have to go back and remind myself of some of them, but Shoutout to the airplane scene from Congo.
I was wondering, would you possibly be interested in doing a video on PTSD in the Metal Gear Solid series?
I mean are we gonna ignore the connections to Death stranding.
Great video
yes.
You should check out a zombie film called Pontypool. Pretty sure Kojima took ideas from that for MGSV. I won't say which ones because it would spoil the film if you haven't seen it.
So glad someone else mentioned Pontypool. Definition of criminally underrated and do not doubt whether it influenced MGSV.
Not only that the baby corpses reminded me of death stranding baby jars
I can't find Shadow Moses Cafe podcast on Spotify what happened? 😔
I've never heard of this movie... Wow.
Guillermo was referencing MGS1 with "the war is not over yet"
This is high class
It’s kinda not only fitting that another word for phantom is demon
But it’s also fitting that big boss/ venom snake is referred to as a demon since he is the bad guy after all.
I like that you said we would watch the movie twice. That way, we'll pick up the cues missed the first time through! 😎🤙
While I am a really passionate fanatic of both MGS and Del Toro’s masterpieces, I am afraid I found this video highly speculative, stating ideas as facts that does not %100 seem to be the case
do a video about the Lee Van Cleef movie God's Gun one of these days please. outer Heaven is a saloon and it involves twins
Created for the ruse or used for it?
its no secret that kojima has ripped every idea he's ever had of from movies lmao
Yes. Basically anything he's ever been a part of has had most of the ideas ripped straight from a bunch of films, and not even in a remotely artful way.
"Good artists copy. Great artists steal" - Pablo Picasso.
There's nothing new under the sun. Everything borrows from something.
@@someguyjohn6599 kojima doesn't borrow, he straight up steals. solid snake? literally kurt russel's snake plissken. there are shots from snatcher that are literally taken from blade runner.
@@Bloodyshinta1thus making him a great artist per the quote youre replying to. cmon man, keep up
@Joncliff McKinley I don't agree with that quote, come on man keep up
Cool video! I guess I’d better check out that movie…
Oh. I thought this was going to be about Escape from New York. My bad XD
This is an overqualified take. much appreciated
that's cool, and shows a "that's why" theyve grown one another after MGSV
thats a great movie.
I absolutely loved mgs5. To think we aren't getting another stealth action game similar because of DS and now DS2 really hurts.
Now i come here just to suffer and watch cool strange MSGV vide😢😂😒😡🤬🤪!
We all know it was Snake from escape from New York where they got the idea for Metal Gear.
Albert Einstein over here
Kurt Russell was actually based on Iroquois Pliskin
I am gay
that isn't something I expected to see in the comments but it's surely what I needed hahahah
Why would you not expect to see this in the comments section of a video about metal gear?
These 3 comments are the most metal gear thing ever!
I am too. We are both gay...where we are now we built it together. From now on you....are big gay
@@ghostofwar5430 you can call me....deepthroat.
Good video though I think PS1 Vagrant Story has better case for being a larger inspiration for MGSV
Hahah I'd rather watch this movie than play the game honestly. Story wise it was weaaak af lol but the gameplay smooth as butter tho😅 It felt like a game with half the effort lol.
Always keeping an eye on Kojima's next game coz he has a high probability of making a great game but MGS5 and Death's felt lukewarm to me if that makes sense, good gameplay tho 😅
So its really The Phantom Spain.
...Sorry.
So John carpenter's escape from New York doesn't have any influence on metal gear??????????????????
none at all.
Just the character snake pliskin
Ah, so I finally know what to blame for that fucking dumpster fire
Face/Off?
I love mgsv but I saw this movie a few times since it came out; and I never liked it. I now can finally understand why people don't like mgsv seeing these both compared.
the biggest dislike/problem with mgsv was that it was unfinished
I wish Kojima would come up with his own ideas and quit being a hack that uses other people's stories.
I never realy trust that hideo trasleter
While I enjoy the content about the games and around the games, nothing will make the Metal Gear Solid series not suffer from its hangover after metal gear solid 3. Metal gear sold, mgs2 and 3 were great games to play even with the overdone cinematic stuff and over acting by the voice actors. Mgsv just wasn’t good. It was promising with Ground Zeroes but Kojima just does too much bullshitting and the game suffered dramatically. The game wasn’t even finished. Wasn’t fully fleshed out. I hope kojima does another metal gear but at this point he’ll just make another stinker like death stranding aka DHS simulator.
That's the problem with creatives, one day they'll just walk away from their original vision and dive into something their original admirers don't care for
Many of his "greatest" ideas are just shlock from American B movies. It's embarrassing to realize most inspiration is simply lifted, and people put on blinders to the low quality because it's presented as quirky Japanese creativity.
if you know enough of kojima's work you realize that he is just one big plagiarist
Thats a little too harsh dont you think? The stories that he creates are still unique.
No
here's nothing secret abut this, Kojima is a hack and has lifted from others work for every single metal gear game
That's his thing
for the love of god. Pay someone or use AI to read your script. I can't pay attention to this monotone presentation.
Show some respect, grunt
That wasn’t hard to pay attention to. Might want to re assess your own attention span before coming off as an unhinged weirdo.
This is far better than most commentary on RUclips that focuses on some variation of "The Boss was actually gray fox who was decoy octopus the whole time, and also Chapter 3 is totally coming even though literally in the game Paz expresses Peace Day Never Came"
@@matthewangelucci4849 dude, nice observation! Peace day never did come though, right? :(
cant listen to monotone and you want AI narration 😂😂
Escape from la