Andrew Tate DELETED Those Videos For A Reason | Aba And Destiny Convo
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- Aba joins the stream and talks with Destiny about the Andrew Tate situation including the deleted videos incriminating himself, his arrest and his fans going to crazy lengths to defend him...
Date: 7 Jan, 2022
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Criminal Lawyer Finds Old Andrew Tate Video Incriminating Himself ft. Sneako ►ruclips.net/video/l9dgV0Kg68M/видео.html
How was this comment posted five hours ago but this video was only posted 19 minutes ago??????
it's a signe of the times that a psychopath is everyone's hope and example
this is not the problem this is the symptom
the social contract is dead burried and forgotten
@@mute1496 The editor can see and edit comments before the video is released to the public. They upload the video first in private mode and then change it to public or similar.
2:40 this
then how r they his 'girlfriends' if he made em lose their 'value' like dis w multiple men as he said in his theories? nonono. puzzle failed
7:20 bout this is hilarious the last vod of erudite, the convo is like a due uno reverse lol
@@RanEncounter Fair enough. I appreciate the explanation
When Ye said "The thing about me and Adidas is like, I can literally say anti-semitic shit, and they can't drop me" it put Adidas on blast to either prove him right or drop him.
When Tate repeatedly said that he can get away with blatantly illegal shit, the Romanian government got put on blast to either prove him right or prosecute.
Simple as
100%! The most googled man on the internet saying your country has corrupt cops is definitely not a good look 😅
exactly. People think they're invincible for some reason
Big techs companies put pressure on the US government to put pressure on the Romanian pressure.
Romanian government can be bought.
Not saying that there isn’t something illegal but Romanian government is the one of the most corrupt in Europe.
Ye and Tate don’t compare much, that’s my point.
Ding ding
Never put an organization on the spot without possible consequences and then cry as a victim 🤣
The cherry on top is that, Andrew Tate claims to want to “help Men” meanwhile he’s the ring leader of a massive scam were the base is exploiting Lonely Men with that only fans/cam websites.
he closed that a long time ago and is now advocating against it so why use such trash logic? idk how this community functions on so much fallacies
@@User-zo6si L Bot, doesnt even use a real User name because they are scared. But i agree, no more cams, casino is better.
@@User-zo6si he closed it when idiots started paying him $50 a month
@@User-zo6si He's literally doing the same thing with casinos today.
Literally everything he's ever made money off of (except boxing) is taking advantage of (mostly) lonely men. These are his costumers.
If it was a scam people wouldn't of paid for it for months on end.
Guys it wasn't sex trafficking OK, he just wanted to let them escape the matrix.
😄😄😄
*gave them the opportunity
Good one lmao
@@famalam943 Cam work is sex work. If you get trafficked to do cam work, that's sex trafficking
And hop into his own matrix. 😅🤣😅🤣
I'm from Romania and I have some things to say
1. Our justice system doesn't have bail.
2. In the criminal system people are ussually judged by a pannel of three random picked judges.
3. The authorities are always watching the casino buissnes and potential sex traffiking for the sex chat business.
4. Search mandates and preventiv detaining are done by a judge. Prossucuteurs bring the matter of a search mandate to a judge and he or she decides if they will get that mandate if there are sufficient suspicions of crime. Prossucuteurs can hold you for 24 hours for questions and in this time they need to get you in front of a judge if they want to impose the preventive arrest.
In that case they will bring their evidence to the judge and you can defend yourself. Preventive arrest is done only for flight risk and dangerous suspects.
5. The maximum penalty in Romania is 25 years. If you are convicted of multiple crimes you will only do the time for the higher one. They can cumulate under Romanian law. In this case if Tate gets 25 for organized crime he will do only that.
6. It is illegal for citizens in Romania to have guns. So nobody keeps anyone at gun point. If Tate own a gun, or if a gun was found at his property he will do time for that alone.
7. Romanian public doesn't know how Tate is, there is no public interes on him or his ideology or activities.
8. Romanian public and institutions have a great deal of troubles with foreing citizens who were coming here to do sexual activities that are forbidden by law. In my mind if Tate is proven guilty he will get the maximum.
9. In the matter of the preventive arrest, sometimes after 20 days the prosecutors will demand another 30 days and so on. Because this was instituted on suspicions of crimes and flight risk these mandates tend to be approved by judges. I think he will stay in jail until after the trial. If he is found guilty and let's say he stayed 2 years in preventive arrest (preventive arrest tends to be even longer) those 2 years are counted as part of his time. For example he gets 5 years and he's done 2, he will only do 3 more.
10. For organized crime there are no conditional release or time reduction in most cases since these are considered the most dangerous criminals.
11. There are no deals to be made for somebody in the Romanian legal system. You can get a lower sentence if you collaborate with the authorities but that is determined by a judge.
12 My personal opinion is that Tate is guilty because in Romania aside from big betting companies that own different casinos nobody dose casino buissnes without help and protection form the local organized crime. I belive he was working with a local crime organization that was already under investigation and they had enough to arrest him. The same goes for the sex chat thing.
Interesting piece of information. Really appreciate your post!!
What about the two former "victims" and one of the cam girls that came out defending Tate?
@@thehumanbackpack6374 U really think there the real victims they have? lolol.
@@matthewmuise5138 They we're labeled as victims when they never said they were so why not?
According to news Tate's property raided by the police contained lots of guns he had no permit for.
Tate was hiding in plain sight while sneako, Ross etc were his useful idiots
Who is ross?
@@vineetshinde9969 Ross Luigison
Wanna see next level dickeating? Go to Adin Ross' video on Andrew Tate being arrested and look at the comments.
@@TheRealMkd1George lol
@@vineetshinde9969 Adin Ross
Aba made a good point about them deep down not even caring about the allegations cause of the resentment they have towards women; how can you convince someone something is true if they don’t really even see it as morally wrong deep down?
@@natediaz1863 True these men go around saying that manipulation doesn't exist because they aren't children. Like you can't manipulate anyone to do anything because they aren't a child. These guys are absolutely working in bad faith and hate women.
@@natediaz1863 I didn't misunderstood you I was agreeing with you and adding point.
This. They want these things to happen to women. If it was guys or male children that were trafficked it’d be a different reaction
@@natediaz1863 The same when people dismisses Chattle Slavery. I'm really hearing this in your comments.
"Proof" but he even stated himself. He is guilty for many reasons.. Pimps are illegal. Pimping is human trafficking. HUMAN trafficking.. not to be praised because Only Fans existing isn't the same as a man making money off of another person🤣
Yall devolving and it's wild seeing it in real time, to
@@Yomel123 Human trafficking is human trafficking. Women are just more commonly used. Women and children.. doesn't matter about who gets it worst. It's still wrong either sex or gender who's being PIMPED out
Tate has admitted to slinging dope when he was in England and working with the Romanian Mafia when opening up casinos. The fact that people can't believe he would sex traffic, boggles my mind.
“But I went to his house” - Sneaker
Let's be fair tho, slinging dope isn't exactly the best indicator. The rest are tho.
You don't have to get involve with dirty work when doing business with criminals. There's a reason the "just business" term exist. Casino rake in loads of money, it doesn't have anything to with human trafficking
What? Imao you aren't that smart
Bro Myron used to arrest seggs traffickers for a living and knows Tate better than you or me after spending so much time together. So Myrons opinions that Tate is innocent absolutely does matter since he's the expert in this scenario.
Damn Sneako, Fresh & Fit are so pimped they don’t even realize it. Their defense of him is low key “I don’t know about all that. I just know daddy loves me.” 🤦🏽
Sneako, fresh and fit are three among the 75 girls Tate pimps
Adin too. It's like these kids get friendly once and think they have to be buddies for life with someone because they have no spine to confront their daddy on anything.
I can fix him!
lmaoo. The irony of Myron being ex-fed, having all this experience, and knowing about Andrew Tate's cam business. I didn't know about it until Myron mentioned Tate has sex with them to have better control over them. So the "I didn't know or I don't think" is wild. Imo they knew enough to avoid him.
Exactly they're still gonna be riding Top G
My favorite part of this whole Tate thing and his groupies is watching them talk shit on how stupid the girls are without realizing they have way more in common with the women than they do Tate.
Omg this. They’re like the girls fr
but even then i don't think the girls are stupid they are just vulnerable and have low self esteem so they're in the right position to get duped and trafficked. but his groupies are a different story, they have to be unintelligent in some way.
You wright on the money
He wants us to believe that he recruited 75 women and that he has 30 girlfriends and blah blah blah but only 6 potential female victims were found in his house (remember, the women are not allowed to leave, per his words). The reason why Tate has any followers at all is because they believe that Tate does have all that wealth and all those women when in reality the house they arrested him in was only worth 600k. I don’t know much about being a criminal but I do know that the first rule about it is you don’t go around talking about it. Tate only knows how to scam impressionable men and like a handful of dumb teenage girls, he ain’t no Al Capone.
Im a simple man, if i see aba in the title i click it
Facts. And he hasn't uploaded in a week so I'm sad
WABA
@@dianajames2842 he uploaded yesterday
@@lqd2403 true but it was just an update video
WAba!
There is nothing that could come out about Andrew Tate that could change people like Sneako's mind. It could come out tomorrow that Andrew Tate said on camera that he was child sex trafficking and Sneako would say that the FED made up this video.
2 of 6 supposed victim came out saying they are not victim 😂😂😂 keep that same energy
@@2ndamendmentmf183 Difference between people like you and people like me is that I would actually believe those girls.....and assume Tate might actually be innocent instead of making up a conspiracy theory that red pillers are corresponding with each other to intimidate and force these girls to lie about their victimhood status to save their lord and Savior Andrew Tate.
@@Doeyhead 😂😂😂 the fact that you took the time clown
@@2ndamendmentmf183 source?
@@rosa61217 find it yourself
The Tate system.
T -Take them to your dungeon
A - Assume superiority
T - Tape them in sexual positions
E - Extort their profits
It is like the DENNIS system in Always Sunny
Andrew TAPE
or Tate?
@Jack The Hat
LOL
He is no golden god!!
@@futurereflections4097 I don’t hate Tate nor am I a “fan” of him or destiny. You’ve just confessed your fandom, you should buy a jersey with Tates name on it.
The scary thing to me is how still so many of Tate's fans still continue to claim he respects women and is not a scammer. Yet they will call other people sea-imps and bots. This guy has got his fans programed to think he is a standup guy who is not sexist. All he has to do is mention the Matrix, and their brains shut down like good little bots and will continue to defend him even if he is found guilty.
I’m sexist myself, does that mean that I’m inherently bad or guilty or anything?
Women are regularly sexist, no one care about it.
Uh everyone is sexist
They jumped down my neck on the Tate simp channels when I said I didn’t think he respected women because he spoke about his mother so poorly when talking about how much he loves his borderline deadbeat dad
@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta maybe because your opinion is off?
@@zambot264 he was blatantly agreeing and siding with the guy who would leave him for months, while disparaging his mother, if my opinion was off then I suppose it’ll stay off
"...but they're not gonna leave. Because of the implication." Andrew Tate
How are you not following this? They aren’t in danger! Clearly they aren’t in danger but they won’t leave because of the implication…. Lol perfect
The irony of all this is Tate would call ppl in the “Matrix” sheep…but all of his loyal followers were blind sheep for him as well…
"If they have to hide, then its the truth. If they delete it, then its the truth" - Sneako
"If it's a lie, then it's the truth"
“If daddy Tate lies to me, then it’s the truth.” -sneako
@@ll2323 "Andrew Tate's doggy is the truth" - Sneako
"if andrew tate, then its the truth" - Sneako
" If tate f@cks sneako, then it's his bf" - Sneako
The Positive evolution of Aba and destiny's friendship is great to see.
People saying "it's not real sex trafficking" or "it's not that bad" are disgusting. People have 0 moral compass when it comes to who they admire.
I wouldn't be surprised if these same people excused his alleged rape charges too. 😑
I think your missing what they are actually saying cam girl business is not sex trafficking/ pimping hoes on the corner, cam grl biz is onlyfans before onlyfans existed but dam i just noticed u have matrix in your name so i doubt you will read this objectively lol
I think more mainstream people like tim pool, pjw or whoever defends him constantly will either ignore it, change the subject to epstein and his list or wink to it being a set up. Cant let the grift drop.
I don’t have a problem with it if he was paying these girls their cut, paying taxes, not physically beating or raping them and they could come and go as they please. Cam girl work is legal. There are a total of 75 girls that work for him so it would be interesting to see what they all have to say.
@@bradtaylor77 Since tate admitted to being a "loverboy" pimp (in his previous website). Which means he purposely made these women fall in love with them. I would say it's hard to get a confession out of them.
(Most people who have been manipulated or abused to love someone are usually denying it, because its extremely hard to publicly admit you have been manipulated).
But, i would argue you don't need confessions for tate to go to jail. Because he's done a great job incriminating himself with a lot of shit he's said. That will most likely be used against him in court.
keyword: Alleged
If I hear the "Why are they coming after Tate and ignoring the people in Epstein's black book?" argument 1 more time my ears are going to bleed.
To be fair… the only power the tates have is their influence
Which obviously isn’t negligible… but it’s also not any kind of legal authority
Many of the folks who partook with Epstein have just as much influence and actually are law makers who do have authority over us
It’s completely fair to question why they get a pass and no efforts to expose them
The whole one person is getting away with a crime so no one can be caught & prosecuted for that crime argument is so dumb it fries my brains.
@@beewest5704 especially since he’s im a totally different country lmao
Eyy I don't mind it too bad.. I wanna know who went over and over. I hate the, "he's just joking guys..." & "He's a man of God that is helping young men" 😂😂
They really need that much help "getting girls", saving money, and going to the gym... The matrix runs deep haha
@@bluepilledalpha 🤣🤣🤣
You know what's actually creepy as hell, you can tell Tate wanted to "fly girls out to Romania" because they literally wouldn't be going home from there. Like he says "two girls got back on the plane," but that doesn't mean that they refused, that could be because they would have been found, or were too hard to convince not to go home and they were extremely aware they were being trafficked and raised a bunch of alarms and escaped back. It's actually absolutely bonkers. I've known a tonne of guys like him from my drug selling days, and they're all like that.
Damn right, you can bet he took those passports as soon as they got to Romania and was only getting them back on Tate's terms, not theirs. Total exploitation. Fact they were basically doubling their money from the women by lying about paying their taxes is disgusting.
Lmao, the schizophrenia in this post is HILARIOUS🤣🤣. Go get medicated.
Those Women was when he was in LONDON.
@@silentwitness536 no, stop talking
His cam business began in England my guy
I think for most people, when you mention s trafficking, the situation they think about is like the one portrayed in Taken 2008. When Liam Neeson's daughter was kidnapped and forced into the industry - I think anything less severe than that, people will not really classify as trafficking.
Well yeah. If nobody was forced and nobody's consent was violated then fine. Nobody is harmed. What he did was fraud.
Pretty much. I was honestly surprised that legally: defrauding sec workers = human trafficking. In my opinion its a bit of a misnomer. I guess that's just my ignorance. Still I think most people are leaning in on the sex trafficking line despite it being a technicality. I wouldn't go as far as sneako and deny he's a criminal
The Brothers finessed those women. At least that's what it looks like. They made those women fall in love and manipulated them for money.
I do think people who hate the Tate brothers are using the words 'sex trafficking' in bad faith.
I believe they are aware of the stigma that those words carry with them - they are aware that when you speak those words, the listener thinks of the situation in Taken 2008 i.e. young girls forcibly kidnapped and forced into the industry, chained and doped up.
They want to associate that stigma with the Tate brothers - that's why they keep using those words. They could have used the word 'fraud' but won't because it lacks that x-factor connotation.
@@dancheng3014 lol love has nothing to do with it. Its a business. And yeah thats my point. People are making it out like Taken when its really wolf of Wallstreet. Both criminal, both despicable. But one is clearly something people would be much more upset over.
Sex trafficking is a legal term for pimping and it ain’t easy
I would add people also get roped up in the idea that this millionaire is letting us in on the "secret of the matrix" it feels like more than an ideal or community to them but rather a secret society to devote yourself too.
Enter the matrix was pretty good imo
@@t0xicdmg443 damn skiddabippy
That's exactly what Cults do!
At this point we cant believe anything he says and its crazy how gullible people are to follow him he already admits to being a maniac manipulator in so many things but people still think he cares about them and that he has a messege for helping people
This is the basis of the appeal of conspiracy theories for dumb people and the uninitiated layman. The idea that you have some sort of secret esoteric knowledge that separates you from everyone else is too alluring to many people. They know it makes no sense but they are psychotic and are having a psychotic insight due to their entire belief system being based in illogic and insecurities about themselves and society at large. So having logical arguments with these people (if they aren’t family), is a fool’s errand. The best antidote is to let them just destroy themselves, their life, and their relationships. Humans only learn when they have nothing left to cling onto and are a rock bottom; impactful life events can be a kind of “factory reset” for humans and that is when people’s minds are most malleable and most open to new ideas and beliefs.
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Martin Shkreli was friendly with Destiny. Was on Destiny's stream multiple times and honestly, it was good entertainment as well as a good conversation.
Then Shkreli was accused of running some sort of NFT pull or whatever and Destiny said something about it and Shkreli had a conniption live on a stream because Destiny didn't cover for him because they were friends.
This is exactly what this conversatipn is about
I gave massive props for Destiny because of how he handled Shkreli.
Wasn’t that the guy that had that one Wu-Tang album?
@@sodokami6347 lol yah
> conniption
Good word!
The reason Tate is a Muslim is to make it easier for him to get a passport to Muslim countries IMO. He talks about how you should try and get as many passports as possible to make it easier to escape countries especially during lockdowns and that kinda thing
Anti-globalist try not to be a giant hypocrite and exploit international systems behind the scenes challenge (Impossible)
Y’all are flying off the deep end.. relax
Or he actually believes in the religion. Seems like you’re butthurt he became a muslim 😂
He knows how misogynistic and stupid muslim men are
Or it could be for a larger reach. More people to pay for his bogus course.
Tate certainly seems guilty and Tate may or may not be correct about the Romanian legal system. I am guessing there's good odds he might have had a blind eye turned to him had he not been blatantly claiming the Romanian legal system was corrupt and easy to buy off. It only takes one person with pull seeing this and deciding it is an unacceptable message for a foreigner to send up about their country, and the last thing they would want is a bunch of Americans thinking Romania is a great place for dirty laundry. That doesn't add up to some grand conspiracy though, just Tate being dumb enough to kick a beehive just to prove to his fans that the hive is empty and then getting stung by the swarm within when it turns out it wasn't.
Exactly why would Romania want a big mouth UK and US citizen telling the world I moved to Romania to be part of the corruption. Then bragging he can just buy his way out of the Romanian legal system. I’ve been trying to tell the tatertots that Romania is going to make an example of the tate bros 10-20 years of an example.
The Muslim grift is because Muslims are naive and ignorant about the world so they just defend anyone who claims to be Muslims which is why they got infiltrated so easily by people like Lawrence of Arabia and it was so easy to destroy the Muslim civilisations, same trick Tate is doing as Lawrence of Arabia did lol
@@Justmekpc yeah. why do you think the logan paul situation blew up? japanese people got pissed over it, 'cuz by doing what he was doing filming dead bodies and all that he was basically talking some mad shit about their country behind their back. and now we see a more extreme example of this coming to play in the andrew tate situation.
I'm Romanian and let me tell you, Romanians are usually very nice people but they don't take kindly of foreigners coming there and doing illegal activities. We have enough problems of our own with politicians we don't need figures like Tate coming here doing and advertising, on top of it, to the world that romania is passive on crimes. Btw he was being investigated before he started running his mouth on the internet so I do think he would have been caught regardless.
@@eEmm1 I feel the same way as a Muslim and him claiming to be Muslim and using it to veil his crimes the same way he does with your country. he just uses these things for his benefit he's clearly a slimey MF I don't care if they put him in jail
The H3H3 slander is getting ridiculous. When Ethan called Tate a sextraffiker he did so after reviewing the contents of Tates course on how to start and run a sex cam business. He reviewed the taken down website detailing how he does it, that same content Destiny just reviewed from the lawyer the other night. He also viewed Tate's videos that he took down detailing the process as well as the videos he put out explaining why he moved to Romania. That's how he came to that assertion that Tate is a sextraffiker just like Destiny just did.
I get that Destiny is biased against Ethan but holy hell the bad faith is through the roof.
It's amusing how what he said online publicly is what is going to sink him. Another argument for not de-platforming people, just let them have the rope.
Its like that with racists, let them speak for long enough and they will show their true feelings towards certain groups. Eventually some people will snitch on themselves out of nowhere
Agreed. Let them speak. Usually prosecutors have to gather evidence and piece together what happened. But he told everyone what happened so if they find a shred of physical evidence to corroborate it, he’s done. He did 1/2 the job for them. 😂😂😂
Whether Tate is guilty or not, one thing is for certain: a girl named Destiny was involved
Gonna cry
This is < 78% true 😂
Destiny is a female lmao
@@robertrios1732 Faxx
He did it for sure
Guys like fresh and fit will defend Tate until the last minute because they can’t let go of the potential money grab they would get if by some miracle he gets off on the charges that they were the ones that stuck by him through everything because he would only blow up even more and they want to ride those coattails to the bank. There is no alternative in denouncing Tate that would give them a fraction of the clout/money/relevance that they would receive by defending him whether or not he is found guilty and since all they care about is money and popularity and not their audience and how they influence them negatively, they will die on that hill.
Money aside, they’re tied to a certain ideology. Women are bad men are good. The same (but opposite) ideology that extreme feminists operate by.
Like a "BOONDOCKS SKIT". Like the R.Kelly trial
I'm glad that public opinion seems to be turning against Andrew Tate, but it's kind of fucked that him confessing to sex trafficking has been shown across the internet for like four years now and people are just treating it seriously now. When Andrew Tate blew up my first thought was " I can't believe that people are taking that guy who accidentally confessed to sex trafficking seriously". For a long time, the only thing most people knew about Andrew Tate was that he openly talked about his sex trafficking business while trying to brag. I generally think both Destiny and Abba have well thought out opinions but it's crazy that they missed this before now.
Ethan has been calling him a sex trafficker for a long time, citing his past arrest, a victim coming forward and Tates own words posted on his website.
But for some reason Aba and Destiny still think he's a moron for thinking that, even tho it's all the same evidence that has now convinced them 🤷
Especially all his and sneako fans still coping in denial
@@frostpyr0 I agree. Ethan was right. If you get arrested, it's fair game.
@@frostpyr0 The past evidence was not nearly enough to call him a seggs trafficker lmao. Ethan had no idea if he actually was doing that or not it's the same shit lefties do when they call everyone a nazi.
U dummies need to lookup what sex trafficking is, cam girl biz is not sex trafficking if so then how does only fans exist at such mainstream level. U fools think this is Taken 4 and Liam is gonna call Tate saying "I have a unique set of skills" lol
Humble enough to admit I was an Andrew tate fan before I looked into the sex trafficking stuff. The dude legit admits it all on camera it’s insane
Hey man, I've been fans of people I shouldn't have been, I used to like j Peterson. The important thing is you have enough self awareness to fix stuff
@@reedraikes7471 lol what’s wrong with Peterson? He doesn’t fit into your box anymore?
@@Earthad23 his takes outside of his areaof expertise (psychology) are attrocious.
@@chavaspadaFor example? Even if he wasn’t correct about something why would that make you not like him? I find that most of the things he says are deeply considered and shouldn’t be dismissed with a giggle because Destiny doesn’t like it.
@@Earthad23 because he allowed the fame to get to his head, he blatantly spouts things confidently incorrect.
He thinks he's right outside of his field when his laughably wrong. Most of his "evolutionary psychology" takes are pants on head dumb.
Also he allows his christian bias to blind him, he's in a similar boat to Capmbell trying to force all stories to fit a certain mold blatantly ignoring those that don't fit it.
Also him not trying rehab and instead opting for getting an induced comma not to deal with withdrawal is just weird.
He touts that his goals was to "escape the matrix" and help others do so, yet in the end he became the biggest part of the the social/political conversation of the internet. This guy leaned into the publicity for money and clout.
His supporters are genuinely under hypnosis, shit is sad.
And in the end I would venture to guess him blowing up as an internet celebrity put that many more eyes onto the insides of his operation which potentially could have lead to the prosecution. Not saying it wouldn't have happened, but I bet it didn't help.
@@johnwinchester6934 attention is a hell of a drug
In the first Matrix, they literally make a critic of consumerism as one of the tool the Matrix uses to keep you asleep. All Tate talks about his money and the shallow material things it allows him to purchase. And the Matrix wad written by 2 "woke" trans women lol
@@morenitomoreno1282 mfs really dont understand deep concepts in movies, they see the "matrix" as just: "government control what the people see" and thats the deepest they will dive into the film because it fits their narrative, even though they themselves create their won matrix where everybody thinks the same and you are judged and labeled if you disagree. Redpill mfs need to look at themselves in the mirror more
Wasn't he wealthy prior to publicity???
Sex trafficking is defined by the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 as “the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act.” It involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to make an adult engage in commercial sex
I haven’t done much research on the situation in general, but hearing Sneako brag about Tristan Tates 75 obedient girlfriends who “loves” him convinced me they’re guilty of something. And Andrew’s vids admitting to fraud was just the cherry on top.
@@Woolwoven and you know this how?
@@waynewayne8419 how can you love someone when u share it with 75 people and have enough interaction and mental connection? Plus he steals your pretend taxes..
@@waynewayne8419 its self evident if u dont see that ur lost
O come on guys lets be honest u cant imagine having one obedient girlfriend lol u know im right
@@MOJOE85 I usually don't want an obedient dog for a gf that does everything I say unquestioning but hey if u wanna live that caveman relationship and think its normal that's on u having brain worms
Little fact check: Romania IS part of the EU but not in the "Schengen" zone, which indeed means that everybody who crosses through Romania's border gets checked.
Thanks!!!
Aba's a keeper.
I'm calling it. When it goes to trial, his defenders are gonna sound like Dave Chappelle in the R Kelly court skit.
My honor, what color is your bugatti?
@@bleeem LOL Your honor did you get your passport? Did you get your shots?
I think it's true what he said about corruption only really working for smaller things. There's an exponential factor to it, because the more severe your crime, the (exponentially) more people are affected or semi-affected by it, so it becomes way more expensive to push it under the rug, because nobody wants to be the police chief or politician or whatever who's KNOWN for being corrupt - unless the payoff is worth it.
That's why when shit happens even with petty ass internet group drama there's a chain of "corruption"
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If Tate is convicted and sentenced to prison, I'm guessing most people that support him will just say to separate the art from the artist. He said a lot of things that rang true to them and likely made a positive impact on their life.
You should be able to learn something positive from someone who has done or will do wrong. Take the good, leave the bad and move on.
Big true
Don’t we do that for the founding fathers already
kinda facts, but also, lets be real. if tate gets convicted they still gonna deny it lol
@@ijahlonjoseph642 that's not even similar. The founding fathers were moral for their time and intelligent. Tate has failed moraly and the only "good" you can take from him is obvious advice you already knew if you're not dumb.
Edit: by moral for their time i mean that they weren't doing many things that were considered immoral at the time. Ofc we know now that they're bad but when you live in a society where it's normalized it's not the same.
I'd wonder what kinda positive things they learned from him
Andrew Tate was Andrew great but he fell off his Andrew gate and met his Andrew fate (i like men)
When Andrew Tate takes a girl out it's an Andrew Date. When Andrew Tate doesn't make it on time he's Andrew Late.
(To the style of Seven Nation Army)
🎶 They say my dick is smaaAaal/And my balls are smaaal too 🎶
Alexander Hamilton,
Alexander Hamilton,
Got yourself a problem,
He can Alexander handle it!
When Tristan Tate sees Andrew leaving he says "Andrew Wait".
@@lqd2403 😆
just finished watching, very nice convo
45 min video in under 4 min?
@@sliceofpie1741 fast as fuck boi
@@sliceofpie1741 10.7x speed
@@Bethune_Groundstaff youtube don't even got those settings XD
As a ex stripper manager what did you guys THINK managing sex workers looks like? The second he said he's a Web cam manager why did any of yall think that he was doing that in legitimate and fair manner, there isn't a Web cam manager I've met that dosnt move the way he moved. Its literally the game. Most of yall never actually knew the ins and outs, you never knew what you were supporting the first place, managing web cam has always entailed that behaviour. I never lied about commision and obviously didn't coerce nobody because stripping is legal and highly regulated but Its like a gang banger say he's a gang banger and then you being shocked he did the gang banging. Tax evasion happens in all sex work, legal or illegal.
I don't know a pimp that calls themselves a pimp. They're all "managers". And if you knew pimps youd know that. They "own Web cam businesses". And they all portray themselves that way because no woman will optionally work under a self pro claimed pimp. I thought we all knew this honestly I didn't realise the mass are this clueless about the sex industry.
People have tried to "employ me" or "partner with me" from the get go so when he was talking about this stuff just off the cuff It was obvious. 🥴
I literally had a Tate sycophant tell me it's better that Tristan threatened to hurt women to give them the money they made on the side, because the alternative wouldve been the girl getting arrested by the police for theft.
I just want my dad to come home
Me too oceans me too......
I'll be your stepdad, where your mom at
I’m coming
Dafeels
Let me get some milk
He literally uses the term "bottom bitch" which is an actual street sex trafficking term for your best recruiter. He's not even pretending to be legit
if you know it, then he could too. If you're innocent, he could be too. Stop the mental gymnastics, let the law do its job
A big point about millennials becoming less conservative was about the economy. Growing up during the Iraq war, multiple economic crises has caused millennials to hit major milestones later than all older generations (paying off college debt, buying homes, starting a family). To me when you put it in those terms it makes more sense. Left & Right are way bigger than just cultural/social issues.
It's always about socioeconomics, never about actual religious beliefs.
IMO the webcam biz was just to launder money from the casinos he operated under the protection of local organized crime. I imagine they saw him as a tool and stooge, knowing he could take the fall for it all. IMO his case is going to be about the casino, laundering, tax issues, but not his treatment of these women.
“What’s up with the Islam grift?”
My theory is that it is, yes, partially about the obsession with traditionalism. But honestly, I think it’s to just continue netting more fans that are misogynistic and homophobic. Christianity, especially in the west, is largely respectful and women and (sometimes) homosexuals. I think Tate realized that there’s a massive population of people that live in the Middle East that would throw him money just for hating gays and disrespecting women, thus he’s courting that audience.
yeah because Muslims respect themselves and Christians are willing to bend over backwards and become nobodies
Disgusting comment.
BINGO!!!
i guess but even then it seems a little strange 'cuz even though in the middle east their views on women are backwards to say the least i'm a little surprised that they'd let andrews views of women slide on its own because even though they agree that women are property or whatever there's more to it, like in islam there's at least the veneer of them being respectful towards women and simply looking out for them or some such thing. the way they go about it is really restrictive and stifling but it has the justification behind it of "we're just protecting them incase something happens". andrew seems to be building his worldview off of merely seeing women as money printers to extort or a hole to put his penis into. he has no pretenses of wanting to protect or look out for or respect anybody, his entire worldview is that men should be exploiting women as objects to make them money or give them sex. also the casinos, and the fact he's selling porn, the fact he sold drugs, although it doesn't seem that far-fetched that he has muslim fans 'cuz lots of people don't know shit about their own religion anyways, his worldview seems to come from a completely opposite direction to what islam is built off of.
The worse outcome is that Tate becomes deified and God like. Tate has a dark Triad trait. He threatens people who has gone against him, yet saying he's a champion of speech. He's also a groomer.
@@aidenpearce5137 tate has messaged underage Romanian politicians daughters this was collaborated with Romanians sources theirs a reason why tate has a target on his head especially in romania lol
@@SPDRM this is the facts tate is detained for a human trafficking investigation their are 6 women who collaborate this and their testimony line up with the evidence the DIICOT found enough for them to feel it is necessary to detain him again were is a lie here just know this much i can tell his whole operation stinks to high HEAVEN if u can't see this u are clearly biased it looks BAD but hey I'm still waiting on the evidence Romanian police has yet to release but u gotta be dense to not see it lpl
@@aidenpearce5137 He has a video talking about how he had sex with a sixteen year old because it's legal in the country he was in. He also on video talked to a 17 year old and told her to come talk to him when she turned 18. If and adult trys to convince a minor before they are 18 to get with them that is by defintion grooming.
@@graciefaulkner1012 He has in many videos, that’s the thing.
He said a lot of things in many videos.
Some were true, some were absolute lies.
The lies aren’t consistent enough, they changed constantly.
Andrew Emory Tate is no god, no savior, no wisdom sage, etc.
He says/ said stupid / cringe things but it was a least entertaining, he says/ said smart things, he is a genuine advocate for young men.
Be it with positive or negative consequences, it can’t be worse than what it is already.
There’s older women complimenting young boys, telling them to come back later when they’re 18…
Or saying that they wish that they were 20 years younger…
Isn’t that a double standard regarding grooming.
@@SPDRM I literally saw a video of him saying something among the lines of " I'll give you some Dark Triad ways to deal with women" Google Dark Triad. It's Psychopathy, Narcissism and Machiavellianism. He knows what's wrong with him, he's not a stupid person.
Im glad this conversation is taking place
I don't get how Ethan Klein was right the whole time but people will make excuses for why he is actually wrong despite the fact a lot of this info has been public for a long time. 🤔
Aba and destiny for sure have a hate boner for H3
This whole thing reminds me of the case on Netflix from “A Bad Vegan”. Dude was a master manipulator and had multiple women sending $10,000+. Except here, Tate took his shit public and has millions of people convinced about someone they’ve never even met lol. Sure, the guy has said some true shit but he’s also said some wild shit and you can’t defend it if you’ve actually seen him openly out himself about this shit multiple times. At the time, it seemed like he was joking because it was so wild but the more that comes out the more it seems like he was tryna hide in plain site.
The funny part about this conversation is both destiny and aba screaming imagine how you'd feel if someone took 30% of your money 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 nobody in America knows what that's like.
I was almost expecting Destiny to run his capitalism defense again.
So even Aba is stating that Tate appeals to so many men, because he says openly that women are property, and it resonates with so many men.
And people are asking why we still need feminism in the west?!
Yet another great delving into politics from our Factorio streamer, I bet he could really transition into that content if he wanted to.
he could even branch out into Satisfactory
He'd kinda be stealing Hasan's concept :/
@@jimbothegymbro7086a world of infinite possibilities 😊
@@nomemeshere4807 fuck hasan anyways
Sneako was at Tate's mansion, highly likely that tate hook him up with some girls. Sneako HAS to be in complete denial that any of this girls were being trafficked for his own conscious.
that would explain all of it, including his comment if passports were taken "..... they could ask for them back" as he's realizing he may have had sex with a sex traffick victim
That sneako guy was prob in on it
This man Waba doesn’t miss
Tate simps are hilarious and delusional... The dude has been pretty open about why he moved to Romania and these dudes are playing defense against what Tate himself said.
Has anyone wondered if epstein held the same views / outlook on life that tate had? What would happen if epstein put similar videos out on the web? Do you think that would change their mindless defense of him?
Hell nah 😂. They are brainwashed by Tate and need him to get out of the matrix
It's funny to imagine Epstein telling ppl to go to the gym, get girls, and his kind of money tho 😂
@thepowerofmyth I know it's really hard to imagine because he was someone who worked behind the scenes. But someone that is indefensible had the same ethics as someone who has diehard defenders is head scratching
@@Mrd1984 ur joking right? Look at hollywood pedos that get exposed, the actors will still defend them. Meryl streep was the worst for it.
Usually ur innocent until proven guilty, so until he is found guilty, i wouldn't jump to conclusions.
@oↄɘAᴎ B҉L҉O҉K҉E҉ my comparison is only looking at 2 people who had two similar scheme structures only difference was one was virtual company to the others physical. I can understand Hollywood actors defending actors because they have some level of equal status as public entertainers and see themselves differently from average folk. I too believe innocent until proven guilty but I'm also the son of an internal investigator for nypd. If that recent news about wire taps is true than there's probably a good case to take to trial and prove guilt.
Ethan’s a clown but these are the videos he’s been talking about the whole time
Thank you, I'm a fan of Ethan and he is not a clown in my eyes. But this is crazy how Ethan views this videos and and Tates old web site and comes to the sex trafficker conclusion, he even called it the loverboy method but he was called an idiot and a moron for it. Now both Destiny and Aba finally watch the same content and come to the same conclusion but still try to discredit Ethan for finding this out first.
Btw Aba's take on Ethan during the Fresh and Fit situations was a complete lie taken out of context. Aba and Preach get defensive and bad faith when someone says something negative about them.
@@risenjoker923 How was the F&F thing not bullshit tho?
@@rutgerhauser2377 The way the H3H3 podcast works is that it's based on inside jokes that require dozens of podcasts to understand what they are saying and why, this makes it easy to clip them out of context.
They for a few months have been trying the fan call in segment. This segment a fan would try to give an interesting topic to discuss and if it sounds interesting they will get to call in. The crew and Ethan don't really know more than the title of the topic and have zero knowledge of what will be said.
The girl only said that she met Fresh and Fit. She was going to call in and give accounts to her interactions. The goal was yo see how cringe they were in real life. As she told the story you could tell it was very boring and weird, Ethan response was that of someone uninterested. That's when she ramped it up and made claims in her story that alluded to sexual assult. 'Myron lifting up her top without concent' when Ethan asked further about it being sexual assult the girl said it wasn't even though what she had describe was clear sexual assult.
The narrative that Ethan brought this girl to make a sexual assult accusation without validating her claims is false. Noone in the crew new what was going to be said. Live reacting to the call is part of the content. The only verification that they did before the call was to make sure the caller had proof of actually meeting Fresh and Fit.
This is no different than what Lav did in ChudLogic stream, make light insinuations of allegations and let everyone else fill in the gaps.
So the inference that H3H3 went and got a girl on to talk about Sexual Alegations without verifying her story is just not true since they had no Idea that allegation was going to be made.
@@risenjoker923 Her description was that of him attempting to have sex with her, her saying no, him saying leave, and her doing so. We don't know what was going to be said? No she herself said she wasn't even trying to claim S.A.
Ethan was.
@@rutgerhauser2377 what she described was S.A when Ethan asked her about it she said it wasn't. That doesn't change that what she described was S.A. Lifting up a woman's top without concent is S.A and that's what she said he did. Again this is a live podcast where the contents of her story is being reacted to for the first time. Ethan is just going by her description of the events.
i love how everyone is holier than thou.. this isn't going to end well for a lot of people.. those who talk down about others usually have things to hide themselves..
I agree. Tate thought he was holier than thou but seems he had a lot to hide.
In Eastern Europe everything is on the table, that's how and why mafia operate there. Most officials don't want to be blown up while getting into their car. However if the government decide to make an example out of someone, they will definitely throw someone who isn't totally connected (like Tate) under the bus. After all Tate is a friend of mine and not a friend of ours (he's expendable).
Also often in these types of cases, in these countries, you'll have high level officials fighting against lower level officials and investigators so it does also complicate issues. It's not hard to destroy a case and if the price is right it might be worth while for someone to take a hit to collect a payday, and help Tate out.
Another possibility is that Tate has bought heat to the mafia, putting them under pressure from officials that feel like they have to act (the whole world is watching Romania), so there's also the possibility that the mafia have, or will serve Tate up on a plate so they can return to business as usual.
You gotta hit these guys with the empathy question:
“If youtube/patreon/twitch was stealing 20% MORE of your revenue and didn’t tell you, would you be aight wid dat?”
If he doesn’t go to jail will destiny and aba back track? No
If he goes to jail will it provide more content? Yes
Whatever happens doesn’t matter honestly.
One thing is true though women make money through OF and online in the states are their own forms of sex trafficking but for destiny it’s okay for them to exploit men who don’t get laid and sugar daddies because the women solely benefits.
But still can’t take destiny opinion serious after calling Kobe the helicopter guy.
The need to be right is strong when he doesn’t know much
Bruv, that's a bad strawman.
Exactly! Why isn’t anyone saying this? And it’s not trafficking if they have free will to leave .
Tate should partner with Master Class and just rehash his trafficking 101 vid
This is exactly why working for someone as a sex worker should 100% be illegal.
A quick correction at 12:15, Romania is a part of the EU, but they're not withing the Shengen zone. There's a difference.
The friendship between Destiny and Aba is so endearing. I wish I had a friendship like that.
I think the problem is that AT's fans are aware that most of the people who hate him, would hate him even if the entire ST thing didn't exist,and would still advocate for his deplatforming.
This makes it easier for them to believe this is all untrue,exaggerated and fabricated.
Sadly there are types who believe what suits their worldvi ew.
The most based, level headed comment on a Destiny video about Tate.
I’m one who is saying to see more evidence, but then you have people who are all in at the point of arrest saying he is 1000% guilty because they hate him for whatever reason, which then just fuels up the fans and skeptics to say NUH UH HATER.
Truly a mess
@@Yuh_mama I completely agree.
Its entirely possible he is guilty, but anyone who doesn't think it's equally possible this is all blown out of proportion because he upsets people is just kidding themselves.
Time will tell.
I love you, have fun, stay safe, be careful, ok?
This man has love in his life.
People can’t admit Tate was pimping on all these women because they’d have to admit they got pimped too.
It’s way easier to scam a mark than it is to convince a mark they’ve been scammed.
Has anybody uploaded the Andrew tate self snitching vids where he originally took it down? If so where can i find it or can you send a link? I need to see how crazy this is.
Search up criminal lawyer reacts to andrew tate
His name is Bruce Rivers btw (criminal lawyer.) He has a few on Tate.
@@deadams8905 I hope the prosecutor will use them
Andrew Tate is the Bernie Madoff of influencers. Soon his buddies will be made to feel really dumb. " He didn't do anything wrong because he would have told me " 😂😂😂
Aba be disrespecting Patrick Bet David calling him Patrick Bateman 🤣
does he even know he’s buddy of the year?
There was this great japanese movie that came out years ago called "bright future". 2 radicalized young men come up with this crazy plan to kill people/change and harm the natural environment in a unique way because they were just sitting around doing nothing and being nothing. Excellent film and it reminds me of the current malaise young men face in todays world. And now that i think about it, a very creepy ending. 10/10 highly recommend
The matrix is sending Agent Smith after Andrew "Neo" Tate. If all else fails blame the matrix for matrixing.
The Romanian authorities have already confiscated all of Tate's supercars, monies he had on him, and possessions as they explained to compensate the victims. They have already done this that means they have already come to their legal conclusions and are quite confident for this to be current let alone past tense. It is just a matter of time for the trial and then sentencing.
Aba: "How can Tate fans say with such certainty that they KNOW he's innocent of these crimes?"
Also Aba: "Tate DEFINITELY is guilty of these crimes."
How about we just wait and see what happens in the courtroom..
I have a strong suspicion a lot of these people making the Tate is guilty vids are about to take an L.
Found the tater tot.
Destiny asked his opinion. He gave it.
I mean, Tate literally admits to all of this in the videos Destiny reviewed in a previous stream. He admits to effectively committing fraud to keep the girls there (with all of the tax form shit he was talking about), literally stealing their money, continuously lying to them to keep them dependent on him, etc. The court still needs hard evidence of this for the actual trial, but he's basically already admitted to it.
@@jaer.6540 I watch way more of Destiny's videos than Andrew Tate's. It's possible to enjoy content from two different people who are on two completely different sides of the fence. Or do you just consider anyone that consumes ANY of Tate's content a "tater tot"? 🤔
@@drewlavay you completely missed the context, that's the point.
@@jaer.6540 And when someone gives the opinion that he’s innocent its “oh you a tate fanboy “
The funniest part is when they bring up Ethan being right and saying he was wrong for the reason he thought he was right when they used the same source (Andrew admitting to it) he used on his own podcast to say Tate was a sex trafficker. Come on guys don’t lie to us some of us watch both and know h3h3 way back machined long before you all did (sad btw since he’s a comedian not a political streamer but I get it y’all friends with Sneeko and Adin didn’t want to make them look bad until cops but still dont drag his name for y’all being out researched)
Yeah, as a Red Pill guy I’ve been pretty dumbfounded at this whole thing. I mean the point of the RP “movement” “philosophy” (whatever you want to call it) started out as being about skepticism and the truth. And to see a bunch of guys just falling in line and completely captured ideologically just feeds into my nihilism.
"skepticism and the truth" lmao you really went down the rabbit hole
@@TheDonUrbas my movement to the RP was a lateral move from Atheism
@@MaxPowers2.0 Yeah you are clearly very impressionable
@@TheDonUrbas how do you figure
@MaxPowers2.0 i don't think he has anything very smart or useful to say to you.
The was a healing conversation to hear
I know nothing about pimpin The only thing I know about pimping is the difficulty. "Pimpin ain't easy"
Andrew tate wouldn’t have been popular if Kevin Samuels hadn’t passed away.
Ironic that Tate is actually a groomer.
@@franklingoodwin I was about to say that lol. Funny enough xQc was on stream with him and Andrew tried to pull the "Have you ever seen the clown that hides from queer people"? joke. xQc hit back with calling Andrew a "Top Groomer"... Andrew sat there visibly seething and looked like he wanted to kill xQc. I always found that sus,
Weren't all the women adults? Thats not grooming , thats grown ass adult women being dumb. Unless they were physically threatened of course
@@Siikayy adults can be groomed.
They also.dont.have to be physically threatened. It can be paysolpgical or coercive.
He also stole from them.
@@mrlimey2419 "adults can be groomed"
You my friend are a moron.
Its would be deception at worst not grooming.
If i convince you cleaning my toilet will make you a millionare and you dont and cry about it , people are going to laugh at you. If i do the same to a kid , thats when am a bad person.
No evidence for the rest 2
@@Siikayy embarrassing levels of understanding in the way the world works.
Adults can be groomed, your buddy is a groomer and will go to prison. That is reality,.deny it all you want by calling people names if that makes you feel better.
I've studied Romanian law. In the criminal justice system the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The police who investigate crime, and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.
andrew spoke with conviction and authority, plenty of people gets fooled by that, just because someone speaks for you doesn't mean they are good people.
it's like religion to me, "i have salvation" bullshit, everyone wants easy step by step solution to life.
there's so many layers how this speaks to so many different people.
how i see it is that these people are pandering to the other side of the extreme feminism thing, i think some might be well meaning and well intentioned or they genuinely believe in it themselves.
but there's a lot of grifters in this space aswell.
there's a lot of half truths that gets taken as truths whole sale and people go with it because it resonates with them.
but i will say this, i don't know what andrew got out of being a public person, was it the smoke and mirror of trying to pass as good will to throw people off the tracks?
was it to get more money? was it for his own ego? was it some kind of attempt to justify himself to be a good person to himself?
anyways, i will say this, i do sympathize with people who do get swept into these kinds of things because it's very easy, it could happen to just about anyone.
nobody is impervious forever to bullshit.
It was for ego because he’s a narcissist. And money because he’s made a shit ton more since he blew up
Patrick bateman? American psycho? You mean patrick bet david
33 Supercars or 37 Showers.
The Choice is Yours.
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I absolutely love the chemistry between Destiny and Aba, and think that they would make an absolutely banger podcast. I will start watching them and 30 minutes go by in a blink of an eye.
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@@2crisp63 they're on a second syllable basis
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They need to bring that show back right now. The world needs it
@@2crisp63 lol I’m a 🐑 ba
I can honestly admit when the news about Tate first dropped I thought it was impossible to be true because my idea of what sex trafficking is was that “Taken” model more or less. Over the last week or so my understanding has expanded greatly. Really kicked off by Erudite more than anyone else.
If you pretend to fall in love to get a girl to work for you, it's a dirtbag move but I disagree that it's sex trafficking per se. How do you prove love or lack thereof in a courtroom? My issue with the term coercion is it's too open ended and removes the onus of responsibility of oneself on someone else. We have a responsibility over our personage to decide yes or no to a given action.
If one is forced or threatened to... well then the onus isn't on you, it's taken from you.
But it is possible he used violence or threats thereof to keep them doing it, and I guess we will ultimately see.
@@rutgerhauser2377 literally the definition of coercion is persuasion by use of threats and force.
@@derickzellar6632 You know what I think what got me confused is there was one university court case where they managed to finagle "cajoling" as "coercion." And got some guy suspended even though he and a girl had consensual sex.
Apparently she got shamed by her friends for being with him and got that done by saying it was "cajoling"
@@rutgerhauser2377 there's a difference between getting a girl to fall in love with you so they'll work for you and getting a girl to fall in love with you so they can work for you as a camgirl that has never done sec work before by tricking her to move to a different country live in a compound with armed men around with 74 other girls all being manipulated like you were essentially getting stuck in this situation and then get your money stolen from you and threatened and lied to about your situation to be forced to continue on in the situation.
Lmao are you okay? What does love have to do with it? Love is the initial step which isn't even that important it's the next 9 million awful and illegal things that they'll talk about in the court room. Regardless of whether he actually loves them or not he openly admits to using their love for him against them.
Yeah because sometimes the onus is on the person coercing people. Again you are completely missing the point coercion is already something he admitted to and its a singular component its not illegal to play with someone's emotions its what you do to play with their emotions that's illegal and the circumstances you are under.
If you don't get that your either stupid or being purposefully obtuse. Flirting with a student is one thing insinuating to the student that they will get a better grade if they fuck you is one thing tricking a student to fall in love with you having another criminal party helping convince them to move to a different country and do sex work in the hopes of being his girlfriend and getting rich only to get there him manipulate you now your stuck in a compound with men with guns around getting your wages stolen in a country you don't speak the language with effectively nowhere to turn being the situation is threat enough but on top of that they allege he literally threatened them blackmailed them and they were raped etc etc like you cant be dumb enough to get hung up on something that shouldn't even be a second thought.
If I was a family friend I pulled up in your dad's car and said "cmon buddy your dad had me pick you up today he's with your mom in the hospital there was a medical issue and you got in then I convinced you to go with me you end up in Mexico you don't know the language your in my compound your parents sold you to me im forcing you to do sex work stealing the majority of your wages and threatining you as my armed guards stand around would you really be sitting their saying "HMMMMMM well I guess my problem with this is the coercion it was my choice to get into the car and trust you so can I really push the onus onto you????"
@@jobo2243 Done with your spiel? Ok.
If s3x work is real work then there is no difference. It's a dick move what he did but it isn't HT. No means No. Yes means Yes. If they signed off on it the onus is on them.
If threats, violence, and or entrapment is involved, the onus is no longer on them. And I notice you use the word allege... exactly. Allege is an accusation, not proven yet.
Even armed security isn't an end all be all indicator. If you are wealthy, you have armed security.
The problem with your analogy is the initial premise is a falsehood. In tate's case the initial thing was "I like you, why don't you fly out to romania see my mansion?"
The premise is true.
Now if they changed their mind after and he prevented them from leaving, (which is possible), then yeah you got something here. Which again is what is being alleged by some of the accusers I believe.
I am not gonna say he didn't do it, it's definitely possible.
The problem with deplatforming is when beliefs arent challenged at all they spiral and get radical really fast. So if you kick all the conservatives on one platform and then all the leftists one another they both get very out of hand very quick.
At the end when Destiny was saying the FnF guys were freaking out about some woman cheating for the same reason a guy can cheat, does anyone have that link? I just want to hear what his reaction is.
I'm a tate fan but I'm waiting for the evidence. People are acting like take is the messiah it's crazy. I don't know much about trafficking nor the Romanian laws on it. While is a bit hard for me to think he's a trafficker if the evidence is actually there then it's there. Tate stans you have to accept that anyone can lie to you at any time for any reason. If you don't what will you do if he is convicted?
I'm not much of a Tate fan but I applaud your open mind. I don't know if he's innocent but if the courts decide he is then that's that. Ethan Klien should not make accusations without a shred of evidence so he will always be wrong no matter what. Not to mention the people memeing about the pizza boxes and Greta stuff are incredibly irresponsible.
That said the people who refuse to even consider he may be guilty are wild. I wouldn't trust any internet celebrity as far as I could throw them. For people talking about the matrix and questioning those in power, they don't seem to question the power and benefits he gets from anything.
When Tate released the video claiming he could break the laws in Romania with no consequences it put the Romanian government in the spot to either prove him right or wrong. They chose to prove him wrong.
Thank you for being a “fan” of reason. Andrew Tate has admitted to scamming men and beating women. Not sure why they think he’s their savior
If the Tate stuff comes out as incriminating as it's believed, I really think people will completely discredit sneako and his ilk on that fact alone. I wonder how long they'll last if he falls
I think they'll just say that it was unfair and the elites/globalists/West or whatever they make a boogeyman out of got him.
they still won’t believe it, many of these fans are in too deep
I mean if you're someone who actually finds the time of day to type in "rumble" in your url then I don't think you'd care that much about your favorite creator being discredited.
They absolutely won't ever concede. Until they happen onto a relationship and learn some real life experience, then finally start to fall out of the red pill rhetoric, only then they'll start to realize how dogshit it is.
I highly doubt that. Bots Iike Sneako are Going to defend him no matter what.
Is there a video of Destiny covering the original posts that became known as pizza-gate?
Problem with Andrew is that he went from being a zero sum player aka “I’ll fuck all the women in the world and leave you simps with 0” to “men need help and women don’t pay attention to them”. Could be redemption or an act, idk to be honest.
No, I guess he was teasing guys in order to shame them into becoming high value while understanding how hard it is to be average.
He was a brokie most of his life after all, only thing going for him was hus height and that's about it.