Sydney Watson Tells JustPearlyThings She's Oversimplifying In Feminism Debate
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Destiny reacts to VICE's feminism debate ft. Sydney Watson and JustPearlyThings...
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Date: 4 Jan, 2022
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00:00 Teasers / Intro
01:03 VICE feminism debate ft. Sydney Watson and JustPearlyThings
03:23 Vaush vs Sydney Watson
08:01 JustPearlyThings plays to anti-women audience
10:32 What's stopping you? Important to give examples
12:25 Sydney Watson thinks JustPearlyThings is giving oversimplifications
17:09 We need real life examples to ground things in reality
33:05 Trans women in sport
41:20 Progressive aren't used to defending their ideas
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#politics
#debate
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hearing the trans girl say that lactic acid was a performance enhancing hormone made me laugh so hard i became a trans athlete
Yep - and it has literally the opposite effect.
Not gonna lie, one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Like you go on a vice panel, you're prepared, you know what you're up for... Then you say that?? I wish people actually took their advocacy for their positions seriously, even the ones I don't agree with, I want to hear good & serious arguments. I want to challenge my positions, not learn that you have an extra chromosome.
@@fuzz4173 it's super tough to find/get equally qualified peoples in a debate environment online. Listening to 100s of hours of uneducated reactionaries poorly prop up a position I share has done irreversible damage to my psyche. Personally I don't believe in any position I can't saliently defend with my own words and when I see people regurgitate the half baked words of today's popular ideologue it makes me wish I was a collegiate trans athlete.
@@bagatti I just so wish we had people who cared more about things. I want to live in a world where people care about the things they believe in and work towards those ends. Like, I'm pro choice myself, but these pro choice folks on the panel gave us a bad name and made us look dumb as fuck. Jesus. I'm pro choice for reasons I believe in and can argue. I don't care about your feelings, I care about your rationale. To be honest, Sydney, the chick on the left gave the best argument as a side note for being pro-choice than any of the ones actually fighting for it.
@@fuzz4173 avoid the debateosphere, I've heard lefties argue abortion so poorly I started reevaluating my own position in fear that I was making the wrong call. Engaging with radicalism or left wing ideology requires a certain level of cognitive dissonance, as does any radical position. That being said there's a reason the alt right pipeline exists, that being the consessions you have to make don't directly conflict with your own anecdotal perceptions and reality.
always nice to see Destiny covering female topics where he can offer a relevant perspective since as we all know, Destiny is actually a male streamer who has supportive yet realistic insights on feminism
This was a waste of an opportunity to reiterate that Destiny is a girl’s name.
Nice subversion of expectations lol
He also has a girls name
i was waiting for the "its a girls name"...
Oh, damn, he transitioned? Shouldn't we stop calling him Destiny then? Isn't that deadnaming him?
The pearl lady: what barriers do women have?
The disabled one: I'm disabled
The black one: I'm black
Lmao
Women still suffer disproportionately from sexual assault and domestic violence
@@randomhuman2595 That's not a barrier because men and other people deal with that too. What you think child abuse is?
@ExeErdna Yes men often will suffer sexual assault and injury from domestic violence although not as often as women
@@randomhuman2595 I don't even disagree man, that would have been a point to bring up instead of bringing up some other thing that marginalizes you
I think the biggest tell of this conversation is the inability to separate race issues, ableism issues, trans issues from feminism.
That's exactly the point of intersectional feminism. To make these topics so convoluted that you can't possibly untagle them in a rational debate.
They are "intersectional". In my opinion, disabilities and trans issues has nothing to do with Feminism. They want Feminism to be like the LGBTQ$%U&#%$WREHNsfuo!@#$$12385896 community rather than females. The Trans community also act like barnacles and parasites. They'll try to attach themselves to any community that gives them power.
Talk about the oppression Olympics. "Yeah, well I'm a woman AND have no legs!", "Yeah but I'm a black trans leabian!". It's like an epic contest.
There’s such a thing as intersectionality. Where multiple forms of oppression intersect with eachother. For example, homophobia overlapping with racism in gay men of color. So people with overlapping identities have to deal with multiple forms of oppression at once.
But brain dead people will call legitimate issues oppression Olympics
"Trans lesbian" is such a clever way of jumping up the oppression ladder by three rungs just by having an idea.
@@dm_1236 lol who's mad.. it's just cringe.
You forgot obese.
@@RavencrowProductions he doesn't seem mad tbh
I'm surprised destiny wasn't invited in this panel.
Diverse womanhood
Never gets old…
His girl's boyfriend said he couldnt.
@@shihoblade That's hella funny. XD
Naaa they don’t want simps manginas opinions seeking fon female attention or approval . Feminist are disgusted whit this useless man.
I don’t like Pearl or Sydney, but at least when Sydney spouts off I believe she means what she’s saying. But every single time I see Pearl talk, it feels like she’s calculating the optimal hot take for her red-pill audience. The grift energy is strong with her.
That's due to editing. They cut out most of what she said. This was vice trying to make leftists look good and they utterly failed
Yeah, they were really scraping the bottom of the barrel with the other women and then there's Pearl and Sydney and that's it. They were the only ones who really stood out in any way.
@@frumtheground Pearl didn't really stand out in a good way though. She was just more controversial. Sydney is the only one that stood out significantly in a good way on this panel.
She is realy good at her job basicly 😂
@@radmax I think the word grifter has lost all meaning. It’s obvious that she means what she’s saying. People seem to conflate being one sided with being a grifter. There are an absolute ton of feminists and leftists, including the ones on the panel, who are absurdly one sided that we wouldn’t call grifters.
If you watch Sydney Watson's video about being on Vice, it seems like they cut out a lot of what was said because many of the women on the panel were just crazy...
Yeah. Had to make them look sane or Pearl and Sydney would look too good.
Oldest excuse in the grift book
@@mdaddy775 what excuse? Apparently they shot like 3 or 4 hours
yup. And now the comment section on the original video has been turned off. Vice is a fvcking joke.
@@phoboskittym8500 The excuse: "They edited it to make me look bad"
I loved the part where Destiny reacted all over the screen
Actually added content compared to the previous react video
that sounds sexual
Very fair use 😂
My favorite thing Destiny does is when he pulls up a popular video, looks directly into the camera, and says 'it's reacting time', then reacts with unbroken unblinking eye contact into the lens. It feels like he's reacting right onto my face, no, right onto my soul.
It felt like destiny herself reacted all over my screen PERSONALLY
It’s so frustrating as a woman to see this I’m yelling at my screen.
Yes. It was an unproductive
Same… and I commented under her stuff. I also put all the facts right next to what I was saying. And so many conservatives under my comment were mad that I wrote a lot💀.
@@R2d2.. "Stop writing a lot woman" youtube might hide my comment but at least you'll see in the notification lol
You ever here the story about the feminist that became a man to show the world how easy it was to be a man? Yeah she killed herself because she couldn’t believe men went through.
whats even more fucked up is the comment section going apeshit on all women because vice couldnt pull together an intelligent group if they tried
This vice video should have been called "Sydney and Pearl attempt to wrangle a bucket of crabs".
a bucket of hagfish is more apt... and no, not because those women are hags. But because hagfish are extremely slimy.
And remember, crabs are basically lobsters. And Lobsters are basically just humans with claws.
@@Panteni87 Pearly is a hagfish then since she is a slimey person. The feminist women can't argue for shit.
@@Matt-sl1wg true
@honestrat03 pearlythings is relatively new to the space, starting out reacting to Kevin Samuels (rip) and you can see she is still in the initial growth spurt. So yeah, she is almost destined to have over simplified views (that's the case with most recent converts, no matter the religion/ideology) but she keeps growing so that's good. Sydney Watson is what pearly wants to be, and probably will be if you give her a few more years
This panel was filled with people saying a whole bunch of nothing trying to sound smart. But ended up looking stupid by the end of the video
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Argument: "People dont take rape reports seriously!"
*listens to example of a rape report not being taken seriously*
"Oh I dont believe that story at all, what bullshit!"
Amazing feminism guys.
I've tried to watch this vice thing three times and have had to turn it off every time because it's so infuriating that a panel got together to discuss feminism, and none of them can talk about feminism. It's just racism, ableism, ageism, prettyism. I'm so embarrassed. I guess I'd pay us a lower wage too at this point. Sydney and Pearl were the most reasonable here (though outside of this, I have some major issues with Pearl, so I don't even know what to think anymore).
right? I was having a discussion abt this very thing before vice turned the comments off. OG feminism has won its cause--equality in laws, obligations, rights. Talkers who are not doers are left purposeless so they refuse to give up this fight and now it's hijacked by so many other causes totally unrelated to womanhood, to the point that the word has lost its meaning. Trans rights, pro-choice, BLM, PWDs, are just piggybacking on the movement.
I just checked out the original video and the most annoying thing is that the comments are deactivated so there can't even be any feedback.
@@narcissistichumility1269 That's because most of the comments were supportive of Sydney and Pearl.
@@emperortgp2424 Damn, that is so trash.
Pearl is basic af and only where she is because of her wealth privilege
I would really love to see a debate between Destiny and Sydney Watson. She seems like one of the most prepared people on the panel
Sydney is just the *sliightly* more centrist, atheist version of Lauren Southern. A debate between Destiny and Syndney would look similar to his Lauren debates.
@@tudornaconecinii3609 I mean... Sydney Watson was once a guest on Red Ice TV, a notorious white supremacist and holocaust denial podcast. A bit more extreme than Lauren if you ask me.
A lot of these women, in my opinion, are switching feminism for racial discrimination. While they can be combined, they are still two different things. And when your answer to one is the position of the other you've lost the argument because you've confounded the definition. Intersectionality has ruined social conversations
Seriously... When they were asked what barriers they faced as a woman they started talking about their race, appearance and disability. Newsflash, fat disabled black men exist as well... Good job inadvertently proving the irrelevance of feminism.
@@emperortgp2424 yeah this was hilarious, it reminded of me the Bill Burr joke about how White women were chilling in the jacuzzi with White men and are now standing half way out of the jacuzzi while criticizing White men lol
Agreed. the whole point of intersectionality was looking at unique problems faced by people belonging to more than one disadvantaged group. for example you might talk about the unique issues that fat women face in society.
@@ancestralpotatoe2646 fat women dont face discrimination, being fat is a choice....and its a sign of privilege to be fat when so many are hungry....
@@tb8654 That bit was fire, "white women" as an ideal took advanage of the game and won yet they still cry about wanting more. Yet more of what though? They can have everything the fact they can stand up and say they don't have anything. Then take a private jet to a home that's paid for is that "jacuzzi". They're mad when people point out that they're not really about what they claim to be. That's why those really rich shut the up
Pearl is clearly on that grift, but you have to admit that she did a great job triggering everyone on that panel. Look at all their faces.
yeah her content sucks but she slayed here
Yup, I loved seeing all these whammen triggered.
Doesn’t help that none of the people on that panel seemingly had no brain
Pearl spewing contrary points means she's a grifter. Got it.
Her content is awesome. The leftists were outnumbered in terms of iq points and brain cells.
"everyone has biological advantages and disadvantages in sports" Alright then. How about we just put men and women in the same sports and see what happens.
Can already happen. I don't think there is a "men's sports".
We already did that.
Fallon fox .. didn’t turn out good.
@@Voltroc Are you really that dumb or just playing? He obviously means divisions, which there are no men and women combined (under 8's boys vs girls in some sports)
unironically this
A guy fought a woman in a mma match and destroyed her recently without even trying.
If this is the smartest feminists VICE could find feminism is doing terribly.
Or VICE is
@@Violaphobia Well considering how far left VICE has become they tried their best to find feminists that represent their side.
I swear to you most of these women don't even know what feminism means
Fun fact, the white trans who is sitting next to pearl was actively trying to sell HRT drugs to kids without their parents' consent. She literally made posts about it, how she isn't in jail for a drug charge felony is beyond me.
Sydney said that she even brought this up, but Vice cut it out (right when the host says "hey lets not get personal!").
Trans privilege
Because a certain person Destiny himself dealt with finsessed the police and media to avoid the very same charges
He is a demonic freak
I don’t know her or her story so maybe there’s more relevant detail than what you wrote but your comment alone doesn’t make her sound that bad. Honestly knowing some trans people and their experiences I can respect wanting to circumvent parents consent. Some parents are not making the best decisions for their kids and taking/not taking HRT can have permanent affects on a person with big impact on their well being.
Vaush: "It probably happens even more because women's reports aren't taken seriously..."
Vaush 5 seconds later: *(a women he doesn't like) says her report wasn't taken seriously* "BULLSHIT!"
Destiny: "That was probably a fake story"
Don’t bring gender into this, if a man said he was assaulted and the perpetrator got freed because he was brown, no one would’ve believed him either.
Prolly is respectful . Vaush has no respect
I mean the context of they weren’t going to prosecute because he’s brown is pretty iffy.
We get killed for those allegations Fake or not.
@@Chronz what happened to believe all women lol
He said it can be fake, but because he doesn't know, he wouldn't jump on any conclusions. I would say that's much more respectful than yelling "bullshit" to the screen.
You know the situation is bad when pearl is like the 2nd most reasonable voice in the room
Fr 😭
I’m glad we have Destiny to give her input as a black, female, exotic dancer, from the ATL.
*punches microphone*
Something Steven girl joke
Wait what are you talking about.... hold on yea Destiny is a girls name
Stevie is a girl's name.
Nice one lol
Based
Bro how do they jokes get worse and worse and not it's become uncreative as this lol
There was a video of a pregnant woman at a protest 6-7 months pregnant with paint on the belly writen not a life yet, I'm like come on that's really cringe and f'ed up.
I think it's extreme if you look at her point if she is saying I should be able to abort it right now because I want to. But the real argument is that if the pregnancy went wrong and her life was endangered, she shouldn't be shamed for getting a late term abortion and that the fetus shouldnt have the control over her decision
@@famalam943 6 or 7 months is not "due any day" smh
@Steve Jones big if true but are you honestly positing that was her actually position or are you being way too charitable in reaching for a weak rhetorical win? No one disagrees with termination if going forward is going to result in a death to the mother, that's basic self defense, financial, personal feelings, and shame are not legit reasons for killing your child no matter how far into the pregnancy you. You sign up to have a baby when you have sex as a fertile guy or girl, thinking anything else is true is a delusion facilitated by living in a society that has insulated you from the reality of nature.
@@famalam943 What’s the issue with terminating a pregnancy within 6-7 months ?
@@NothingElseMattersJM Please tell you're trolling. There are babies that are being born at 6-7 months. The brain is developed so the baby starts to be conscious and feels emotions, all the nervous system works so there's pain, it is alive in any sense of the word.
When even a grifter can tear your entire argument down, you have no argument.
Most feminists
Damn that harpy cackle really convinced me to change my position. Thanks crazy woman!
@@Earthad23 S.I.G.N. bro
Good shit, back in the land of the living.
Imagine the intellectual knots involved in being a Muslim Feminist
"Why getting lashed is empowering actually."
@@emperortgp2424 lol
@@emperortgp2424 There ARE those unironically
Most of them are progressive Muslims. That's how.
@Emperor TGP The Quran actually equally prescribes lashings as a punishment for both men and women, it isn't targeted towards females.
Its Vice, you already know they did their utmost to make the feminists look good while editing the whole thing. Its hard to imagine how bad the whole discussion really was when that was the best they could produce.
You think this made Feminists look good? You think anyone looked good?
@@ng38477 its almost like you got op's point and missed it at the same time
@Tiny Bell You have no point. You could have just shut your mouth and move on.
If they wanted to do that they would have picked feminist whom actually know how to debate.
Yeah I had heard the debate was actually like 4 or more hours long. Vice edited it down to what... like 45 mins? That is some serious gymnastics to try to make a group of crazies look less crazy. And it failed miserably.
I feel like most of these women are used to stating these points with no pushback in social situations, but don’t know how to actually argue their points. It makes me think they don’t know why they believe what they believe; they just want to be on this side for how it makes them look.
It's because they live in a feminist ecochamber
This is true, it's why I hate echochambers so much. I meet people in real life like this and it's so boring talking to them about politics because they just parrot the same 3 talking points they see on twitter every day in a circle jerk to boost their own sense of moral superiority. People have become so afraid of being wrong about an issue that they do zero introspection into their beliefs, so when confronted they say stupid shit like the people on this panel.
they did sydney dirty with that thumbnail lmao
Its a feat not a bug 😂
They just wanna talk about how oppressed they are. This is why it's so dangerous to give safe places for students that can't listen to Opposing views. I bet all these women grew up only having people agreeing with them
Yeah I think these two generations of women (Millennials and Gen Z) have been coddled. Not just the women of course but since this is about young women, it's very clear they are cannot handle any sort of push back in conversation
How the fuck do you watch this 40min shitshow where Pearl looks like an absolute clown, and still end up agreeing with her?
Yes and
@@MelonCapital what are you saying and about lmao
AS A BLACK WOMAN SIDKEOSICKEI it’s so fucking exhausting. It’s oppression Olympics
I like how they sit Pearl next to the Witcher lady, cause they're equally radical opposites despising each other passionately. I would expect some physical confrontation if they were to argue any longer xD
That's not a lady. That's a dude.
that is a trans frosk
Good ol’ jerry springer time!
The pay gap is real, but it’s characterized in a dishonest way to make it seem like women get paid less for the same job. That’s pearls point.
Depends, I found this definition for the pay gap:
"an undesirable or unfair difference between the average amounts that two sectors of a population are paid."
Is it unfair men get paid more while they also work more overtime and work in sectors that simply pay more?
When people talk about a "pay gap" I think it implies unfairness. Nobody is talking about a "pay gap" between engineers and janitors.
@@MustardSkaven That’s the issue, it’s not unfair. The unfair characterization is what people are annoyed with. What is stopping a woman from becoming a billionaire? What forces are keeping them from out earning the man next to them? If women did the same work at a discount they would have every job available.
@@MustardSkaven "When people talk about a "pay gap" I think it implies unfairness. Nobody is talking about a "pay gap" between engineers and janitors."
There's a whole socioeconomic theory that complains about this called communism which feminist theory adds to its own.
@@MustardSkaven you are incorrect 100% because when the pay gap was first talked about in the mainstream media by Obama, the actual research they did before talking about it was that very thing. They took the median wages or earnings over the course of a year between all men and women who work full-time jobs. And they didn't separate these categories by a specific jobs? They just took men in general who work four times. How much do they earn over a year and did the same thing to women and didn't take into account the fact that the jobs that most men work pay more and that is how the pay gap was first introduced to the mainstream.
@@Earthad23 Exactly. If women were doing the same job for less pay, every employee would be a woman.
"Hey chat do I know this person?" - actual destiny quote.
I know it's just so hard to understand that someone looks familiar to him 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 How could destiny ever say that??? 😭😭😭😭😭
@@benstrangvideos youre not an orbiter he wont fuck you bro.
@@benstrangvideos Chat, tell me what I think about this issue
The world record woman olympic sprinter has a slower time than the fastest high school boy
any source for this?
@@reikoakatsuno3702 U18 outdoor men vs. senior outdoor women
100 metres: 10.09 Puripol BOONSON vs. 10.49 Florence GRIFFITH-JOYNER
200 metres: 19.84 Erriyon KNIGHTON vs. 21.34 Florence GRIFFITH-JOYNER
400 metres: 44.84 Justin ROBINSON vs. 47.60 Marita KOCH
800 metres: 1:43.37 Mohammed AMAN vs. 1:53.28 Jarmila KRATOCHVÍLOVÁ
1500 metres: 3:33.72 Nicholas Kiptanui KEMBOI vs. 3:50.07 Genzebe DIBABA
- World Athletics, stats zone, toplists, all time top lists
Direct links will get my comment deleted. So this will have to suffice.
@@ShiroyWolf all those men are also professional athletes though and they are all held in high regard for beating records Erriyon I think even beat Bolt's record for 200m sprint, the claim was about high school boys beating women's proffesional athletes that is the source I was asking for, seems like it was just a claim with no basis whatsoever.
@@reikoakatsuno3702 I do not see how any of that disqualifies them from counting as fastest high school boys.
@@ShiroyWolf cause they are not just high school boys, they are young trained profesional athletes, op post the statement as if your regular fastest high school boys were beating women's olympic sprinter and it turns out that it's not the case at all, also those athletes are not even your regular athletes either those were pretty well stablished athletes even on men's division.
This video is a prime example of my biggest contention with intersectionality. I think it is a useful tool to look at how different demographics being compiled onto each other can cause over lapping friction with structures. But it diminishes all questions of how to solve problems into these weird oppression Olympics of who has it worse gets the attention most. When JPT is asking her questions specifically about women and these people keep bringing up race or disabilities or other intersectional factors, that is fine on a macro lens, but does nothing to tell me what specifically needs to be targeted about the women part of it.
It doesn't help that the nuances of subjects like misogynoir or transmisogyny and how they differ from regular sexism are a bit too complicated to properly communicate in this kind of panel where everyone is trying to get a word in and you just don't have that much time to explain. It isn't necessarily WRONG to bring them up, but the ability to communicate that experience with those specific flavors of misogyny to people it doesn't apply to is just not something anyone can do.
I really hate intersectionality, it makes it impossible to discuss any of these issues without it turning into this debate over inclusivity and justifying who is allowed to have what opinions.
YUP
It's localized whataboutism.
Well there were plenty of people who spoke out against/predicted this years ago but they were categorized as far right and conspiracy theorists.
Hmmm. Its one of those ideas that should be banned outside academia. Words like "systemic" also should be. They have utility in describing certain states of affairs, but most people are too dumb or too ideological to use them in valid manner, and instead use them to signal and to obfuscate.
I mean I agree that no one on this panel was able to stay on topic but intersection is still important because theirs issues that ppl from overlapping communities face unique to them that aren’t present in either community individually. Black people might all deal with racism but poor black people might face it in ways unique to them compared to all poor people or all blacks people. The challenges men with autism and women with autism face can be different in average as well. It’s just really useful to not treat each aspect of identity as wholly separate things that don’t interact with other.
Lactic acid, "the performance enhancing hormone".
I laughed my ass off when he said that.
Well lactic acid is a hormone and not having a lot of it would enhance your performance LOL
Pearl: "I think women wanna sleep around and not have any consequence for it."
"Feminists": "Hell yeah we do." - "YEEEAH!"
Also "feminists": "These things you keep saying like: [...], women wanna sleep around... Where did you learn these belief systems from?"
BUT THEY JUST SAID... YOU WERE RIGHT THERE...DID YOU NOT HEAR...
Why do people need “consequences” for sleeping around though? I know this isn’t your point so I’m just pontificating… but if I’m wearing a condom and the girl is on birth control and we have access to abortion, why are these kinds of conservatives insistent we face some kind of consequence
@Tony I think the best faith version of the argument being made here isn't that sleeping around should have more consequences. Rather the argument being made is that if abortion is morally wrong, even if it's just morally wrong in most cases, then the lessening of consequences for sleeping around isn't a good enough reason to allow abortion in all cases.
@@hake8605 I mean it’s about controlling sex and punishing women.
We can pretend it’s not but look at all the states trying to ban birth control now.
They have no other beliefs that are pro life. They vote against sex education and they got against birth control.
@@TonyCox1351 If you think that even with those things there is no drawback with sleeplying around then you don't really think much of having sex outside just having it for the sake of having it, people used it to bond with each other now is just a mindless activity
@Conrad Korbol Sure, I agree with most of that to some extent. I'm not even a pro-lifer. I just wanted to present the best version of the argument being made.
In the UK we’ve had a few high profile cases of police ignoring grooming gangs from Muslim communities. The largest example was Rotherham, where police refused to investigate claims made because of not wanting to be seen as racist. It’s not that common but it has and probably does still happen to an extent, so I wouldn’t be too surprised if something similar happens.
Not to mention when they do actually they report these crimes as Asians committing crimes, they're definitely tiptoing around it.
I heard those were faked/exaggerated.
@@AkaiKnight you heard totally wrong, Google is free
@@AkaiKnight google is free
Wikipedia: Finland: Sexual violence: Perpetrators: wow.
BBC Sweden 58% foreigner.
Ukrainian 18 year old Germany.
Taharrush gamea.
Marocchinate.
New years eve Colonge Germany.
Rotherham scandal.
Manchester scandal.
Rochdale scandal.
West Yorkshire scandal.
Newcastle scandal.
Oxford scandal.
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Temar Bishop.
Morocco beheading.
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Lola Daviet Paris France.
17-year-old Tabitha E. Germany.
9 year old Swedish girl in coma.
France:
Ndiaga Dieye police attack
Rambouillet police attack
Orthodox priest wounded Lyon
2020 Nice stabbing
Samuel Paty attack
2020 Paris stabbing attack
Colombes police attack
2020 Romans-sur-isère knife attack
Metz police stabbing
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Paris police headquartes stabbing
2019 Lyon bombing
2018 Strasburg attack
Asadollah Asadi
2018 Paris knife attack
Carcassonne and Trèbes attack
2017 Marseille stabbing
2017 Levallois-Perret attack
2017 Notre Dame attack
2017 Orly airport attack
2017 Paris machete attack
2016 Normandy church attack
Nice truck attack
2016 Magnanville stabbing
2016 Paris police station attack
Valence car attack
November 2015 Paris attacks
2015 Thalys train attack
Charlie Hebdo attack
Idk if someone was calling "womanism" a TERF term in your chat. If they were, they're wrong. Womanism was started by black women for black women issues. Often black women feel left out or pushed to the back of feminism. A movement that was mostly centered around white female issues. Feminism did benefit black women by default but many issues that plague black women specifically go unacknowledged by feminism. Thus, womanism was born.
Womanism was created by Black women in reaction to the racial supremacy of feminism. Because feminism in the US was created to maintain the racial hierarchy of whites on top.
Can you give me some examples of what plagues black women specifically?
@@truzle6133
Don't do it. Not the 'example?' question. They just did a whole panel on it & none of those women had an answer...
pearly wins automatically based on how annoying the other women answered to simple questions. "wOmEn Or wOmEn of CoLoR?"
I hate to admit it since everytime Pearly speaks, I feel my braincells rotting. But you have a point.
Oppression Olympics are the worst aren't they?
She automatically won when she was invited to a panel to argue against feminists.
No because women of colour do have À different set of issues we deal with in society as women.
@@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632 In 2023?! No shot b. I guess privilege is invisible to those who have it.
The "for thousands of years women have been dying for their rights" almost had me rolling on the floor ngl.
When the first female fish stepped out of the water...
They went to war and died to free women from slavery lol.
Is it not true?
@@yandhi4507 It is true, in 1804 oppressed woman banded together and overthrew the Haitian patriarchy, thus establishing the first nation to be ruled by women
You cannot criticize feminism or any other progressive cause without confronting the entirety of progressivism at once.
This is not my feminism wing/branch. That’s intersectional feminists. And I hate it. They prevent the society to focus on real women issues like maternity/motherhood/sexual assault/rape/
Sydney had a point. But honestly the only members of the panel that were actually offering an opinion was Pearl and Sydney. The others were just repeating the woke talking points with nothing to back it up. The others repeated all of the empty talking points of Mr Blue hair himself.
Something about Pearls face annoys me 🤣
I’m not being sarcastic, but I think it’s the lack of make up
It's the same smug look cuckold of Akkad has
Right, it’s incredibly annoying. Maybe because she’s such a pick me ass.
@@TonyCox1351 no it’s the lack of facial development
She doesn't actually have pretty privilege 😂
holy shit, no wonder pearly is grifting red pill so hard. if these were the kind of people she's always going against, who wouldnt take easy money?
Hate on Pearl all you want. No one had a simple counter argument worth a damn.
That’s easy to do though when you’re the only person in a room with media training and talking points prepared.
@@aleczitzelberger8123 I think people just like to formulate opinions without doing thorough research. And prefer to base points off empathy rather then facts and logic.
Yeah it’s not a worthwhile discussion to watch if you’re the only one actually prepared or good at debating.
trueeee
@@aleczitzelberger8123 everyone in that room is a reporter or activist they should be able to defend their views since you know it's their job lol
There are no barriers in women's sports destiny, its just not as popular, that's what she means by small opportunity.
If feminists want women's sports to be more popular they need to start watching it. Do men always have to do everything for women, even watch their silly sports?
Yes, they want to characterize reality as an oppressive barrier. It’s like saying we are creating barriers for men by not allowing them to become pregnant.
Ikr , sometimes he really is such a lefty.
Smaller opportunity equals a barrier but it's not caused by sexism. You can still argue though why women sports don't attract that much vievers therefore bring more money and what can be done to boost their view scores. It is something that feminist can focus on if they stop blaming men for it. The same as wage gap, the measure is correct, but the feminist interpretation of it is totally bonkers. Maybe feminist focus should be on assertiveness trainings or improving skillsets? There are still things they can do for women if they'll drop the gender wars and focus on actual causes of the issues.
That is a barrier
nothing is more red-pilling than hearing a group of women discuss an "important issue"
Based
The thing that made me the most angry is that there are really important issues that groups of women discussed all around the world that involved life, death, freedom, oppression and none can get a tenth of positive attention or support that these jargon-generating oppression olympians of the first world able to.
@@Account.for.Comment Agreed, we should be trying to liberate women in the countries where they aren't. It's one of the biggest predictors of economic success for a country, so there's no downside besides treding on traditions of the country (which is a minor downside)
@@pinip_f_werty1382 In most cases, tradition is an overblown strawman. For example, what cause Iranian and Afghans problems that women faced are not restricted to women, but to all part of society. Corruption, poverty, oppression, censorship But for Western news, they only thing in their mind is hijabs and schools.
@@Account.for.Comment you're spittin fax tbh
Men telling women theyre wrong about the female experience, champions of modern day feminism.
In Vaush's defense, he doesn't even know what a woman is. So how could he possibly believe all women either way?
Pearl saying "the little opportunity women have in sports"
Destiny: "haha thats a barrier"
No it isnt, the market made it a small opportunity because nobody watches female sports, especially females.
Thats not A barrier, thats choice. If more females watch female sports, there wud be more opportunity for female sports, but they choose not to watch it, which means less ticket sales, which mean less pay for females in sports, which means theres less oppertunity. So its not a barrier but choice.
Same can be applied to males doing onlyfans and making no money, because they dnt have a big market for males on onlyfAns.
I think there's a counter argument there in the fact that women have been actually barred from many sports until not that long ago history wise and culturally discouraged until very recently. Keep in mind that soccer 50 and 100 years ago looked incredibly differently when it comes to having a balanced plain field and a good organization behind it. It kinda happens the same with videogames, there's nothing now "technically" stopping women from joining but decades and decades of pushback made it so these are now male dominated fields, so for women to enter is to be going against the grain, which is in itself a barrier. We have no idea how sports would look like if women had been included from the beginning.
@@Ram-mu7kl comparing the entry of video game competitions is in no way similar to turning on your television and putting a WNBA game on while do things around the house, hell I'm Latino and I play the music from my island on my phone when I'm watching TV just to barely help with streaming numbers lmao it takes almost no energy to things that support the people that you're claiming to want to support
@@tb8654 It's not about creating the support on an individual way. It's that the interest doesn't exist but we can't say this is "natural" cause at one point, not that long ago, women were forcefully shoved out of those roles. In this case sports.
@@Ram-mu7kl There was no barrier from video games except other WOMEN calling it lame or treating it as a lesser field. The same with sports eventhough there's been buff athletic women for a long time. It was again women saying women shouldn't look like that until. Men made something kinda popular enough then poser women saw it as safe enough to want their piece. That's how women got their sports leagues men made enough women's leagues can be at a lost of profits and not shutdown. Nothing for a long time held back women some of them simply didn't want to do something. Yet that very fact shows there's no barrier.
"Is this person trans" yeh you're not fooling anyone there Destiny
destiny asking his chat about who's darkskin is hilarious
I only chill with Destiny for moments like these where there is almost 100% criticism leveled at an argument. I acknowledge that everyone has a bias, but sometimes when we remove ourselves (or when we're not even included) the objective view you can have on someone's discussion is such a breath of fresh air. It is so revolting when people still can't sit back and see where other people make good points and where people avoid accountability (in any aspect and level of severity).
I often feel like they pick random lefties and pin them versus media trained right wing peeps.
Which is always hilarious cause Vice is anything but on the right. They just never learn.
bro, Destiny and LonerBox are the only left-leaning people I can actually listen to without wanting to bang my head on the keyboard. the rest are just mainstream vapid leftoids that talk in generalities like this panel's bunch
@Adrian-Dragos Balaban I think "the left" got confortable being the "majority" and like Destiny said they haven't kept up the practice of actually talking about the issues. Eventually we'll need to "recenter the left" to a point where not every discourse is "racist-sexist-and all the phobic"
@@chris_tine1430 couldn't happen soon enough imo
@@chris_tine1430 Pearl doesn’t come across media trained at all. She literally only started her RUclips channel a year ago and blew up. The feminists on the panel are actual reporter/activist types, which I would associate more with media training.
I can spend months talking to someone about healthcare, better working conditions, better pay, broken criminal justice system, systemic racism, sexism....and I literally have. But then they go and watch the people on this debate or watch Hasan analyze this debate and they'll automatically bunch everyone together into one group and go "yeah they're all crazy"
I saw Hasan react to this debate. His entire reaction was a perfect example of why the average person thinks people with left-leaning are delusional. He didn't give an inch and even when a good point was made by people like Sydney Watson he automatically went into insulting and cursing her out.
Hasan is like the new face of leftist typically Twitter reaction to things.
“Women structure their lives differently from men.” Doesn’t debunk the pay gap Destiny. The pay gap is literally suggesting that women are paid less for doing the exactly same job the exactly same hours. It’s implying something unfair happening.
Damn those all-women corporations paying eachother bottom dollar and cornering the market. CURSE them. If only men would accept the same pay cuts...
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 … the point going over your head huh
It's important to note how neutral Destiny is in this. Like he criticizes everyone that presents a flawed statement. Especially how no one had a proper answer for the barrier question or how Pearly always has the red pill aggressive blueprint. lol It's refreshing
pearly didnt make any case for systematic oppression, the fact that most people dont wanna watch people playing sports at a less than semi professional level is not some sort of systematic oppression, and theres absolutely nothing you can do about it besides getting better at the game and competing with men. Of course that isnt possible due to gender differences, but its not something you can strive to fix, its literally impossible.
On sports like Chess they could compete with Men, on Horse riding too. Women should focus on that, because Men has more physical strenght than Women on average.
@@celphone1cellphone591 hmm i disagree, women should focus on what they like to play, but i dont think they should get discouraged by the lack of interest, just improve your craft and become the best version of yourself, and that in and of itself can become appealing.
How about men watching men sports and women watch women sports?
Turns out women rather watch drama channels and now they complain about that men aren't watching women sports enough. We don't have time for everything.
That's true. But if a bunch of fetishistic males decide to jump into women's teams and it's allowed by society, that IS a problem and there is 0% that women's sports will ever be as popular.
@@celphone1cellphone591 How women focus on what they want and men stop taking over our teams because they want to live out their fetish. I love how men are doing things they shouldn't but somehow still our fault and we need to adjust to them. How about these male shit heads bugger off and get off of our teams.
when people cant come to a consensus about what their issue is with their own movement thats when you know its obsolete
feminism was an ideology so people will always have different ways to interpret it and that is the same for every ideology like nationalism, communism, democracy and stuff people giving different interpretation to an ideology is pretty damn normal and it doesn't make it obsolete.
@@reikoakatsuno3702 the fact that you started the conversation with *was* proves my point
@@footballnotsoccer8873 any response to the actual point? or are you just going to pick on a gramatical error made by a person that doesn't speak english as a first language?
for starters you didnt respond to my initial point coherently, you said feminism is an ideology. I never said it wasnt my point is that most so called modern feminist cant reach to a general agreement as to what the main goal of feminism is anymore. And if you think communism isnt obsolete I dont know what to tell you.
@@footballnotsoccer8873 your point is that feminism can't define their goal so it was obsolete but again that is the case for every ideology out there, if you don't like communism then let's use nationalism, people have lots of different interpretation of that ideology that the goal or purpose of that is no longer clear, does that mean nationalism is now also obsolete?
feel like august is slowly losing his mind trying to title these videos
22:26 thank you I am dumb lmaooo
They way I’ve understood it was that Sweden still records the race of criminals, but they no longer publish the information to the public.
Lol, why? It must be real bad
That’s still really bad. Even if you’re worried about it stoking bigotry (which like fair enough, that is a bad thing) it’s only going to back fire if it looks like you have to hide the truth to do it.
Wild that you can make JustPearlyThings look smart.
That is a real skill.
I believe that, in general, whether you're a man or woman, we'd want everyone to have equal opportunities and be treated with respect. In contemporary society, I think we've generally achieved this or at least learned to improve it. If feminism represented the improvement of women's well-being and equal opportunity, I'm all for it. But where modern femanism lose me is when they can not engage in conversation, and their responses are almost robotic and very predictable. They never elaborate more on the issues and always give blanket statements like "men oppress women" or "society oppresses women." Then they're those who use feminism to promote and engage in misandry.
(Slight tangent)
One annoyance I have with beauty standards and personal preferences is that we're for some reason not allowed to have any??? I think the type of people who think this fail to realise that not everybody likes a single type of preference, and people have a wide range for preferences where there can be deviation or like a checklist that only need 3/5 things. If you literally filter out people because they don't exactly fit the physical appearance, you'd be single forever and such a meaningless way to look for a partner.
Standards and preferences are wrapped around chaos since somebody can be open, then down for whatever and people look at them weird. Yet somebody else does the same thing and they're respected for it. People are biased about people biases
This is wrong. In the current western world, it's okay for women to have beauty standards but it's problematic if men do.
@pinip_f_werty1382 I'd disagree. Initially, that's what i thought too, but women get shit for wanting a tall guy who's genuine and makes her laugh/feel comfortable. I think those three things are what most women want in a guy. And as I said in my original comment, they would also compromise their ideals if other aspects are great. What you see online isn't the best representation of what the majority and is a very specific type of woman. It's probably an American thing. There's plenty of women that I've met in person who just want a genuine guy.
Unfortunately studies have shown women have more of a bias to hire women than men due to hire men. It’s relevant because women are mainly in hr. So they are the gate keepers.
Is August trolling with the sudden filter over the video mid way? hahah
I wish they would do panels with people who argue in good faith.
TRUE
Yea i think the fact that all these feminists have absolutely 0 substance in whatever they say goes to show how much actual issues and work this movement still has to fix. Or even able to fix.
"It is such a conservative ideology to say instead of
We used to hear the oft used phrase 'Educate yourself'. This was a variation on that well worn phrase from a few years ago.
@@DrGingerHamster absolutely
Vaush: believe all women… except for Sydney Watson.
Unironically, yes.
"Believe all women, unless they accuse Joe Biden"
@@smonarch9624 Well then you shouldnt be listened to as you dont believe in the things you preach you just want some moral highground
@@GGGmod1 I think we should listen to black people when they speak about their experiences, this doesn't mean I think people should listen to Ye when he speaks his bigotry.
@@smonarch9624 I don't think we should listen to people with below average IQ.
This is what happens when we don't have real problems to address
we do have real problems but they're being handled by people that are paid more
@@vgorp3849 So men? 😏
@@Demiuuu I didn't want to say it
We have tons of real problems but addressing them properly is actually empowering. Our owners don't want that.
Just wanted to point out the two biological males are the best ones to explain the feminist stance.
Omg ur right. That's so sad
Especially when short hair is all about promiscuity, which is typically a male coded trait. Abortion will never be an issue they're going to face.
Differently wired brains, less prone to going on tangents
I don't know who is black in the chat but there's no such thing as mild-skin. There's lightskin, brownskin, and darkskin. That woman is brownskin
Pay gap isn't real. Earning gaps is.
Sure, there's a gap. The reason isn't "the patriarchy" though
Females on OnlyFans account for 94% of the earnings, despite only being 63% of the creators. Why will no one address this pay gap?
@@MrGgabber cause majority of the people who pays for onlyfans amd are.more likely to spend on it are males that's why female streamers on onlyfans earns alot more, why are you making this an issue? 😂 I think the point of the pay gap issue is about corporate jobs that are exactly the same in nature but men earns a little higher than women just cause they are men.
@@MrGgabber wait a minute, 37% of onlyfans aren't even female?
@@reikoakatsuno3702 It is because those men will no life that corpo shit. Those women are overall working to either get into a CEO placement and or pivot out of the job the moment something better comes along like a marriage or a job offer. That's why what Spikd said is valid because of lot of women left their corpo job made a few 1000s and some a mill getting into sex work and are CEOs because they started their own businesses. There's no gap only a pivot
@@ExeErdna what? sorry but your reply is pretty hard to understand, do you mean that alot of women quits their job to become sex workers? like where did you even got that info 😂 and people quittig their job for better job offer applies to everyone regardless of gender lol, anyway do you have any sources for your claims?
Dude the YT aftermath this video caused.
Where’s the drama?
Got my popcorn 🍿
Link meh
13:17 the white haired person couldn’t be more wrong about “sexism” preventing entry to certain industries, this is 100% false, in countries where women were incentivized to work certain jobs (where they didn’t prior), and affirmative action was offered (higher pay/easier entry) women congregated in the same historic fields as they did prior and still didn’t get the undesirable jobs that offered HIGHER pay than the men were offered (due to affirmative action), even when offered higher pay and lower barrier to entry, the women still didn’t want the jobs
well, some of them are discourage by their own parents which is really sad, one of my cousin really want to go to college and be an engineer but her parents wouldn't allow it cause she was a woman and since lot's of her classmate were going to be men her parents were scared that she would get pregnant while on school she was the eldest of her five siblings and since they were tight on money they just made her work instead so that her brother (the second eldest) can go to college instead of her, that really broke her and I realized how unfair things could be, the ironic thing though is that she was now their bread winner while her brother was now married to a girl he met at school.
base on my experince conservative families sometimes discourage their daughter to even go to college cause they think they are just going to get pregnant anyway, marry someone then stay at home to become full time mothers and I think it's really fuck up how that shit is still happening in this day and age.
@@reikoakatsuno3702 but that’s not an addressable barrier, those are personal factors we all experience in certain ways, she’s talking about systemic, not personal (I do empathize with shitty circumstances tho :/ )
@@Brendito1 well, your original post seems to be implying that the reason there are less women on certain fields is not because of sexism but it was simply because they do not want those jobs, so I gave the perspective that alot of women are still being discourage to go there still because of sexism and sexism is systemic if it was deeply ingrained on people that they naturally creates a bias againts a certain gender.
@@reikoakatsuno3702 but that’s exactly what a nation wide trial (I believe Sweden) where women were INCENTIVIZED, so, the polar opposite of a barrier, to apply for male dominated industries for higher pay and less experience for entry, and these barrier removals only showed that Woman truly gravitate towards certain fields, even if they’re given a “golden ticket” to a higher paying job that requires manual labor or simply is male oriented, despite personal lived experiences it’s fully your prerogative to get a job you want
@@Brendito1 if women are discourage to pursue such carrers at a nuclear level then it would be understandable why they wouldn't be so excited about pursuing it, also an incentives like that sounds like a bad idea cause there is already so much prejudice againts women on those field, if they accept that then it would only make them look even more bad and unqualified, I think what women need is encouragement not incentives, as seen by the data women on S.T.E.M has been gradually increasing as society become less concern about stereotype and gender roles.
“we did our best to bring in a diverse group of women”
brings on two guys to the show
Just pearly the ultimate pick me
I had to laugh when you mentioned a bingo card for JustPearlyThings because I've been thinking the exact same thing xD She regurgitates the exact same stats over and over again without any real thought or analysis behind it in an attempt to hammer a point home.
She kinda does huh. It’s like 15% of the stuff she says it sounds like she maybe thinks about a bit.
Good. She needs to hammer the point home, not write a masters thesis.
@Yarpen Zigrin I think the point they're trying to make is that Pearl can spit out a lot of facts and statistics but consistently fails to display a true understanding of them. She rarely ever talks about what variables might be involved behind certain statistics or correlations, which shows that she doesn't truly understand what she's actually saying. I'm a red pill female, BTW. And sorry, not sorry, but red pill content creators have nose dived in intellectual quality over the last decade. Karen Straughan would wipe the floor with Pearl.
@@shemac1482 Precisely. I don't expect a master class but a little more than surface level understanding of the facts and data she's using.
For instance when talking about maternity and age her favourite stat is "90% of your eggs are gone at 30", which is an interesting stat but ultimately a meaningless one when in general you ovulate periodically (pun intended :P) until menopause (45-55). She'll mention "geriatric pregnancy starts at 35" but won't say what that even means. There are plenty of reasons why it'd be ideal for you not to wait before having kids, the most important one probably being that it gets harder to get pregnant as you get older but I've never heard her mention that.
She also doesn't know the difference between sample statistics and random chance. Just because 50% of people polled were divorced does not mean you have a 50% chance of getting divorced. It means that if you were to randomly select one person from that sample then you would have have 50% chance of finding someone who was divorced.
Her "facts" on social housing and homelessness for women (in UK) are way off as well. I could go on but I think I've rambled enough :P
The biggest grifter of them all is political Tira. She's always flip flopping between her Jolly Right side and her Gloomy Left side.
Their take: All jobs should be 50% in order to be fair.
**WWE music plays**
**Jordan Peterson enters the room with a metal chair in hand**
??
Pearl is fake. She's trying so hard to win Kevin Samuels and Fresh and Fit fans. Nothing she says is new.
Saying the "pay gap isn't real" typically means "it's not blatant sexism", but it's a linguistic landmine.
Just ask what causes the pay gap
This whole convo felt like a massive psyop against feminism.
That's because modern western feminists are braindead, entitled, and low quality people. They should have flown an Afgan woman who was working in Stem or Iranian woman actually fighting for their rights.
Most of these people are very emotional. So it’s hard to have a productive convo with them
Women
@@Earthad23 men are emotional too.
It comes out in rage, lust.
Murder is definitely a crime of passion, performed out of anger, I’d say.
And lust, well I mean one of the most powerful men in the world, Bill Clinton, was felled by a 23 year old, because he wasn’t logical.
Did the video just get slow halfway through? Thought something was wrong with my phone lol
Same
They don’t have a single known feminist though. And the anti-feminists are people with RUclips channels who regularly argue.
Very good point
Hit the nail on the head. These people are not used to defending their ideas or beliefs. That's a skill. Just because a person holds a particular belief, does not mean they can debate it. Pearl cant really7 debate either, she just drops biased factoids and manosphere talking points and leave them out there, and she does not go up against people fully equipped to debate her often if ever.
30:45 "women shouldn't have any absolutes responses to incest or rape"
This debate broke this woman so much that she accidentally supported incest. 😂
Not really thou, it's just a one line of flawed logic, but nonetheless funny as hell.
lmao! nice catch
Pro feminism? L Argument.
Pro life? L Argument.
Trans athletes? L Argument.
Interesting to see people clashing about deeply held beliefs that have no merit in reality.
"Destiny what's your answer to what barriers women face?"
Destiny - "well, it's a very subtle conversation that we have to have" - never provides and actual answer.
Peak Destiny.
Peak feminism in general i can easily give examples of ways men are disadvantaged.
Lol, "yes, the barrier to women's sports are Trans women, so let's remove those barriers"
Feminists: "Nnnnoooooooo!"
Yes that significant problem affects literally everyone on every planet in every solar system in every galaxy in every universe. It's a huge problem. You're totally right.
TERFS: Yes.
@@mwmulv lol, what's your point? I was just pointing out that the only barrier that they mentioned is also one they don't want removed
@@mwmulv white supremacy and racism doesn’t effect everyone so it’s not a problem right
@@MrGgabber They don't have one.
Literally screaming at the scream bc I could answer this, I’m not a strong feminist and even I could answer these easy questions Pearl asked like how do you come on here with no research or numbers
what is up with the grain/pitch in the second half of the video? :o
Why don’t any of these people ever put “real career” (doctors, lawyers, accountants, nurses etc.)women on their panel. Most of these women (pearlythings or panels on f&f) are young, right out of college or their parents home and they have little to none life experience. Panels like this make no sense and are always just for entertainment purposes.
we wanna see a 2 hour talk between you and pearl
I have never seen a better example of oppression Olympics. Totally off the rails
The one lady sounded like 343 guilty spark laughing bruh omg