Redpiller Attacks Destiny On Fresh N Fit, Calls Him An Enemy For Andrew Tate Hitjob
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- Redpiller goes on Fresh N Fit and attacks Destiny, claiming he is broadening the definition for human trafficking against Andrew Tate, and also debates Alex from PlayingWithFire on Andrew Tate...
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Date: 16 Jan, 2022
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00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:27 Tristan Tate breaks redbull record
02:22 CLR Bruce Rivers criminal lawyer
03:28 Bruce Rivers listens to Andrew Tate recording
08:32 Fresh N Fit
09:10 "Destiny is an enemy of masculinity"
17:57 Destiny debates PlayingWithFire Alex on Andrew Tate disagreements
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dont think you should be calling anyone cuck my man , keep up the good vids though
@@hhhhhh-yz4oq it's not an insult to call Destiny a cuck because he admits to it being a fetish but to straight men who would never share it's a major insult.
You and Stevie knight are a few voices that are not dick riding Tate...thanks for that!!
How deep?
Black content creators are gonna start dog piling lmao! You flew too close to the sun, son!
It's just funny that Myron told Sneako that conspiracies aren't a real thing but the moment one of his redpill brothers gets in trouble the first thing he screams is conspiracy
Lets see what happens. People have to much skin in the race. I find it highly likely that an ex kickboxer who has casinos and a Webcam company in Romania is connected to organized crime.
The best argument against the grape allegation is that those massages exist tbh. Tate doesn't strike me as a dumb guy, and sending a message that you love to grape her, is quite dumb.
@@danilonden3782 making your face known to the world and giving detailed info on your sex cam trafficking scam to the world while being involved in organized crime is something a smart person would never do. He thought he was untouchable. It's not hard to see why he'd think it was okay to say that in text. He thought he could get away with anything and he fucked himself in the end.
@Jakob Hancock thats true, he might let his arrogance get the best of him.
@@danilonden3782 never underestimate the stupidity of ego.
@@danilonden3782 You mean the same guy who on multiple videos admit to multiple crimes?
People really don't know the definition of Human trafficking... Until it's someone they care about.
No 🧢 my guy
Ex...freaking...zactly. If Andrew Tate was doing this to their mom, sister, or niece, they would be red in the face in anger. But because Andrew is pimping randoms, people want to make excuses for him. Our human hypocrisy is insane. We need Jesus.
Their only knowledge of it is from movies like Taken. Unironically.
@@avaliausd. My moms not that stupid. Do you have any sympathy for the men that were scammed by these women? Are they going to give the money back?
@@CatotheE These women were employees of Tate, does Tatw have sympathy for them??
"We are all friends of Andrew Tate, of course we are going to defend him."
The fact that they think that way already shuts their argument down.
Why do they keep calling him a friend? They barely know him! They probably have only seen him in person once in their life, if any!
Not really, it’s more to say they’re charitable and believe in Andrew’s innocence until proven guilty.
@@attiamazen4614 I think most Tate fans, especially all the Teenagers, will still support him no matter what new evidence comes out from the courts. It will always be the matrix 😂
Very reminiscent of a certain streamer saying of course he’s gonna defend his friend 😂
You've never heard of a character witness?
I don’t get how you could consider Tate at all a net positive or a “good role model”. This is like if there was an onlyfans model who made videos about scamming men for money and how to get away with cheating on your partner, and I said oh yeah she’s a little controversial but she talks a lot about how women need to be more confident and get in shape and not let men push them around, so she’s overall a pretty good girlboss role model.
They believe he is a net positive because they believe in the same things people generally don't believe what they are doing is a net negative to the world or the people around them they preach the same things as tate does therfore they can't see him as negative because that would mean they see themselves as negative and if they did they wouldn't be preaching the shit they preach. I know this ia an extreme comparison but it's just the first that popped into mind but Hitler probably believed he was a net positive to the world aswell you get me?
The irony is how red pill types tend to hate onlyfans models but they worship a dude who had a webcam business that's potentially sex trafficking.
Because ur not a top G
Exactly
@@Justin-db3hr Yeah Top Gs end ip in their because of their maladaptive behaviour.
its crazy to me how he states he hasn't heard Tate speak about scamming men, listens to the clip of him being very proud of scamming peoples. Then says "do you think someone can change as a human being"? what evidence has tate shown at all that his ideals have changed since the webcam days and beyond?
he literally converted to Islam what more proof could some one possibly give. I guess maybe if he stared a gaming channel got fat and starting simping for women then you would thinks that's proof.
@@toasterstrudils dude converted to Islam just for the multiple wives reason
If you read up on Islam you’ll quickly realise the amount of stuff that Tate does that’s not welcomed in Islam like selling women’s bodies online or owning casinos
@@Tyreker wyt libs with blue hair trying to educate me on islam 💀💀
In alex's defence he didn't listen to the clip, he said he would take destiny at his word, the editor added that clip in to give us the audience the context. The change part was dumb I agree.
He's also scamming men who think they're talking to a woman. I honestly believe Andrew Tate is gay, since he's so personally invested in having sexual conversations with men he scams, and he's also said near verbatim that he doesn't have sex with women because he enjoys it, but it's to show who's in power/control. I wish he would come out of the closet already, since of behaving in this way that has done irreparable damage to relationships between men and women at large, to compensate for his self-hatred.
Rap snitches, telling all their business
Sit in the court and be their own star witness...
So you see the perpetrator? Yeah I'm right here.
Rip doom
I love how his defenders “who aren’t defending him” act like his main message is “do some exercise” that’s not why he got popular and they know it.
It’s so silly
It's also a dumb argument because you could tell them they could follow a thousand (probably more) creators who espouse the same positive messages without the sex crime history, and they go radio silent because their wires malfunction.
Without the misogyny, Tate would never have been famous.
You're right but it's also silly they keep repeating the same thing over and over to defend him and how his message is positive and helps people. Go to the gym. Get money.
What person doesn't know that going to the gym helps you lose weight and gain muscle and make you attractive to more people? Who genuinely thinks that being poor is better than having money. What's the point of that advice? No one thinks the opposite is good...
He got popular because the reality is most men get completely ignored if they don't stand out like Tate. For instance, I stopped dating before covid because a woman joked about not being on birth control. And that was like...the 4th or 5th hookup where I realized I just don't want to casually hook up that much anymore. Because I have like...other stuff to do? And women think that means that...if I stop asking girls out. Women will come to me and ask me out. LOL. No. They don't. Even in a feminist utopia men still have to do all of the masculine roles despite being 'equals.' So most men get completely ignored by most women. And women don't know because they all end up sharing.
Because their mating strategy is entirely ABOUT sharing. And that's just the truth. Every woman tries to converge on a handful of guys. And they all think their pussy is so special they'll get him to commit. And if you pay attention to Kevin Samuels you'd realize most women refuse to bring anything else to the table other than their pussy. And they think a man having expectations in return is misogyny.
So men are told they have to be everything for an ugly cashier to treat them like a person. And they're promised whole heartedly they're going to get nothing in return. That's why Tate and 'red pill' guys are popular.
@@ikilledthemoon so yeah like I said it has nothing to do with him telling people to exercise, it’s about him being rich and gimps like you who had a bad experience with a girl and then judge all woman by that standard.
You literally agreed explained what I said.
The ridiculous copium from tater tots and fresh n fit is magical.
I mean i AM/Was the biggest Tate fan until he got arrested, even I understand that he MAY be guilty and may is enough for me
@@pagirios2285 genuinely refreshing to see this attitude expressed.
@@pogo8050 ima be honest i have his HU membership for 2months, probably not extending next month
@Pagirios22 How has your HU experience been? Worth the money so far, or do you share the sentiments of other people that have come out about it?
@@notan3144 i mean i spent 100$ in 2months its definitely good and valuable information and you can definitely make money there you just need to have some money saved up for Ecommerce for example and risk and put the money in with the mindset that youre gonna lose it (500 to 1k a month) until you find a good product i did other stuff though, but this information can be found on youtube 80%
"I think he's very charismatic"
Fucking mad cope
He is
@@alexcornuelle2483 and retardation
Yes one of the most googled person on the planet isn't charismatic but Billy Draven1895 who plays video games all day and couldn't do 15 pushups to save his families life is LMAO 💀💀
@@toasterstrudils work 12 hours, who's got time?
@David Jones you have no idea what the definition of charisma is 💀, you legit just made a definition out of your ass to fit your narrative LMAO
The matrix is so advanced it had this audio saved before he was famous
I never thought these redpillers could be this vile, this shit has black pilled me now.
Thank God not all red-pillers are like the Tates
@@arhabersham alot of them are defending him, different but close enough.
The newest generation of red pill content creators are just fucking pathetic. Karen Straughan would wipe the floor with them. She's the one who red pilled me almost a decade ago.
@@arhabersham majority are though. Red pill ideology is utterly destroyed if tate gets convicted, I don’t see how it recovers after 99% of the community has been running defence for human trafficking.
@@arhabersham haven't seen a single red piller that isn't slurping off the Tates as hard possible. It's like they need tates cum to survive.
No self respecting and responsible man would promote Tate to anyone, especially not young boys.
Why?. Most people outside USA are not cultish and can differentiate the ideas of a clip from using a person as a role model. Tate is fun and interesting, that is why he is famous, and will continue to be.
Those puritan background checks are an American thing, nobody cares. Web cams ladies are not seen as a big deal except for puritans in USA. The word trafficking is just nonsense unless there was sex involved
This is the internet sir. A place full of 13-23 year old basement dwellers who have never been touched before
@Shinalo Cartilage go on...
No you'd promote only fans hoes and lqbtq propaganda
@@lazylessons7816 🤣 That was the weakest attack bro. Sounds like you think about RuPaul more than I do. But I have nothing against RuPaul anyway. 😆
The issue is that u should never deify a person, then when they do wrong u can still discern it and punish them accordingly
Does that mean we deify Kim K cause she’s famous? Nobody labeled this man a king. Top G is just a motto he uses to symbolize himself. You people wonder why he’s stuck in your head everyday
@@epicswordcry8129 dude. His supporters do say that shit. And more.
@@epicswordcry8129 You’re delusional if you don’t think he’s been deified by his fans
@@popermen694 Okay, we have women calling each other queens everyday. Abolish it then?? Like, when are you ever in your life going to see someone talking their self up like tate, then grow up to genuinely want to be like that.
Dudes can tell the difference between satire and care. Feminine people just run on emotion so when they hear tate it’s going to make them upset. Destiny didn’t even play the full fresh and fit video so you’ll never find out the truth.
Stalin anyone?
The Andrew Tater Tots are getting desperate.
Tate fans are so slow
You didn't even watch the video. You commented immediately after the upload
@@karabomothupi9759 lol so?
Just saying up front, I’m not a tate fan. Some of what he says of hilarious ngl. But destiny is a idoit
@@karabomothupi9759 pure distilled cope. 100% bot account too.
@@karabomothupi9759 Even if he commented a month ago or a month from now his statement would still stand.
The issue isn’t with the self improvement message itself. The method and the outspoken end goals are the problems. Go to the gym to ensure you’re in better health, don’t only go because muscles will help you smash girls. Make a lot of money to give you more opportunities to experience different things in life, not just to smash girls. Take care of yourself because your image as a man actually matters in the world, not just to smash girls! Be an honorable person. I’m tired of hearing Tate fans talk about his message being positive. His message is on how to be a Chad in the world, and any honorable and respectful men will laugh at you for thinking you’re important…
This is literal peak simping, it’s all about women, like they want you to bottle up your emotions and damage your mental health, increasing your risk of suicide because women don’t like it when men cry, apparently.
Unfortunately the self improvement advice is always taken as a way to get laid. Some of these guys even make that implication
Yeah, to Red Pillers "self improvement" is molding yourself into this hyper specific type of man that's designed to fuck women because to them the only important aspect of "masculinity" is based around your sex life.
It sucks.
Thank you, sure there are streaks of self improvement advice found in Tate's message but it's all poisoned by the "alpha" male outlook. He's not advocating for self improvement because it will help you have a more fulfilling life for both you and the community you exist in, which inadvertently can help you with relationships but rather self improvement to live this shallow material lifestyle that will probably drive away a lot of people in your life in pursuit of the things Tate preaches.
Plus these self improvement advices are not revolutionary, plenty of people with a much more healthy outlook on self improvement have been preaching these advice forever, no need to look towards Tate for the same advice you can get from others without all the toxic shit.
When you’re talking to young men who have never experienced female attention in their life, do you think they care about their health? It’s like you’ve never met a sixteen year old boy before lol.
Bruh i just looked up the definition of sex trafficking and it says that using fraud is a type of sex trafficking and Fraud includes false promises regarding employment, wages, working conditions, love, marriage, or better life. Didn't tate literally admit to lieing about love and marriage?
Yes, but they don't care about definition when it comes to their cumdonortate
Yep that is exactly what he openly claimed he did. It doesnt matter to tater totters though, cause "he was just joking". What was the joke? I have no idea, there was nothing funny about it just a man explaining the method he uses to make money, it just so happened to be illegal. Maybe thats the funny part "hehehehe he did something illegal".
Damn let’s arrest every gold digger for sex trafficking then cuz there’s many male victims too……. Yall surface level people just don’t use critical thinking whatsoever it’s beyond hilarious how dumb people are getting
@@youngali505 i don't make the rules i just report them
@@youngali505 out here acting like anybody shitting on tate for his illegal and immoral acts are dabbing up gold diggers, bruh if hell is real then gold diggers are going to hell with tate as well.
This is wild. You dont have drug someone and shove them in a truck to be considered human trafficking. What is going on here, these are grown men justifying something that wouldnt be so funny if it was their sister, mom, niece etc. its so funny these guy entire motto is to “escape the matrix” and yet fail to realize how wrapped up they are in tate the human traffickers matrix
But nothing he has done is human trafficking
@@SunShine-oe4rt cope
@@SunShine-oe4rt so delusional...it's pathetic how you guys simp so hard for this man 😂
@@SunShine-oe4rt How so genius
Free top g
I love how the redpill people seem to be totally unable to function with their own "faxx over feels" narrative in this Tate thing. With no evidence they should not be convicted but when there is evidence, acknowledge the evidence. If you're quick to defend them be quick to acknowledge evidence when it's produced
It's called innocent until proven guilty.
@@avertingapathy3052 copium
y wont u weridos acknoledge two of the six victims are litearlly on the news saying they are not victims , and the cops wont listen to them, lol u guys dont know what the meaning of critical thinking is u live in a fiarytale land where u think everything is fair,
@@rickylal9824 Got a source for that? 🤓
@@avertingapathy3052 the court of public opinion and the court of law are not the same. But Tate will be found guilty in both since he is a international scandal. The Romanians have little choice but to go hard on him.
The mental gymnastics of the Tate cult members are getting out of hand. What did he do that was so great besides scam guys and tell them to go to the gym?
To them, popularize red pill culture which is where they make their money now.
You haven't touched a gym in 10 years are overweight (not hating but ay lets be honest here) and are chronically online and have nothing in life to be proud of. Unironically if you weren't blinded by soyness and nicotine his advice and actually stopped grabbling the vape ( which is at arms length from as you read this ) and worked out for once you would understand.
@@FullMetalAtheist Good point
@@toasterstrudils Sorry to insult your daddy tate, but it's the truth bud. Don't get so worked up and emotional over comments, it's a feminine trait!
Tate fans/haters are both reatrds
How do two brothers who grew up together have the same accent? A mystery.
I know right! Me and my sister grew up in Australia but we have Canadian accents to this day because we had a Canadian english teacher and you know we lived in the same house because we’re sisters. 😂 Is Destiny an only child?
Their accent changed too - old Andrew Tate interviews was more Luton until he put a weird spin on how he pronounces certain words.
I get that he spend his early years in the States but it is a strange accent.
He said that cuz the accent is odd since its american from like chicago or something and also a specific type of british accent. It sounds very unique.
there's a non zero chance tate spent years hardcore flirting with lonely men online and liked it
Id go as far to say there is a 100% chance he did this and he enjoyed it.
Trueeeeee lol
So let me get this straight
Step 1 start cam service
Step 2 take advantage of men
Step 3 get rich
Step 4 change life around
Step 5 teach the men you scammed how not to get taken advantage of
Step 6 stay rich
😂😂😂
playingwithfire apologetics to tate is literally like saying "I agree hitler is very evil but why does that mean we shouldn't appreciate his art and celebrate it?"
First Tate is not even close to as evil as hitler. Even if he did scammed those people, I don't mind appreciating what he says.
I mean Chris brown hits women but people still listen ls to his music
@@danielboulnois1986 exactly. We turn a blind eye when gamers, literal streamer incels have more than just allegations and actual grap3s, and instead when a dude tries to tell people to try and do positive things, they just NEED to drive him into the ground.
Bro the utter ignorance at display here is shocking - the amount of times “society” is celebrating idiots, evil and nonsense is continuous and we only ever hear you pathetic weasels about it when we say something that conflicts with your liberal agenda. Fuck outta here you braindead donkey.
Kanye still made some of the greatest music. MJ is still very much celebrated. Epstein's case is closed, no names released and no one cares. When society can be a little more consistent with what is or isn't ok, I'll pay some attention to what other people think.
NO SHOT THESE GUYS WOULD BE *DEFENDING* ETHAN KLEIN THAT IS THE BIGGEST COPE DUDE
😂 exactly
The cope from the Tate fan is depressing. Even if Tate lands in prison if he's found guilty, they'll just say, "He's not like that anymore," or "There's still some good in his messaging." ...even if he's a scammer AND sex trafficker. Good lord...
The weird thing is that there are many male role models out there who have good messaging about self-discipline, fitness, wealth, masculinity, etc., without being scammy, corrupt, and misogynistic.
It's like continuing to frequent a restaurant where most of the dishes are prepared with piping hot dogshit just because "the steak and wine are really good."
It’s just pure denial
That self snitchin' attorney is fuckin great🤣
Bruce Rivers is my favorite RUclips lawyer. Watch the video were he explains what a blicky blick is, he ends up pulling his blicky out of his drawer. He almost always sets it down in the video next to the "stop self snitching" hat.
@@EricK-tb2dn lol will have to check it out. Just found out He's local to me too, I'll have to hire him next time I get in trouble 🤣
@@EricK-tb2dn link? or name of the video please.
Yeah Bruce rivers brainwashed you clowns to think what Tate did was illegal, all he did was add his moral opinion and disguise it as legal advice and you bots ate it up like it’s evidence
@@mohammedladjeroud1143 Bruce Rivers
Rape is cringe and not based
hot take, lmao
Corny
Do you have any evidence of that?
The cope from the Tate stans is hilarious and sad.
Even if all the shit on the tapes was just voice AI. He's literally described doing crimes on camera for his audience 🤣
Cope
@@sleaves2346love it when they self snitch on how much they wanna suck Tate off
@@elcastro5000 👍🤓 ...... anyways 🗣👥
bro saw a wood bug die today and is taking his rage out on the Tates 💀💀💀
Is he really a trafficker?
Ring... Ring.... "Hello, international legislature that wrote the laws and parameters around what constitutes human trafficking.... Yeah it is me Destiny... Could you broaden the definition of human trafficking? Wow you can! So based!"
I can't believe a grown man wrote this, it's unreal
@@do_care919 lol what you mean? It was a joke.
@@Igors_Sidekick I think he thought you were siding with Flush and Spit
@@deadams8905Oh, got ya... Nah it was sarcasm.
@@Igors_Sidekick lol I thought so
This is insane. Separating “the good from the bad” with Tate isn’t nuanced, it’s absolutely idiotic simp behavior. His opinions on masculinity alone are toxic nonsense, but once you hear what he thinks of women and how he treats them, that should immediately disqualify him as a worthwhile voice on any subject.
Sadly, his views on women are the main selling point for a lot of men.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Tate have a course in hustlers university for getting women to do Webcaming? If so then that completely shatters the argument that he has changed out of that mindset over the years and if he found guilty wouldn't that mean he's basically teaching the youth how to also sex traffic?
Exactly it’s ridiculous and to think he is innocent you would have to presume that not only is he lying but the victims, police and media are too. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a case like this before where both sides all say the same thing about what happened…
Yup he did. But he deleted it from his website once it got traction. Like why delete it if he thinks there is nothing wrong?
@@MegumiCiBear thats why we have the wayback machine
I mean i AM/Was the biggest Tate fan until he got arrested, followed his social media actively, watched every single one of his podcats, but even I understand that he MAY be guilty and may is enough for me
Well done, these people would not care if he killed people and will defend him even if he's found guilty cos they fundamentally don't care about rape
Nice, and how rich did you become while soaking up his knowledge
So when someone is accused you dump them? 2 more girls who work for the Tate brothers have come out and defended him, stating they could leave at any time. So now there's already 4 girls defending them.
I don't know whether he's guilty but if he's found not guilty, I'm going to rag hard on all these fools pre-emptively condemning him.
@@MustardSkaven there's no way to verify they were part of the six victims because the names of the victims have not been released yet. I'm sure they were questioned by police and the Romanian press probably had a field day with their "Tate's property" tattoos. They are pretty cringey tattoo's.
@@deadams8905 These women would know and they said they were named as part of the victims. Their Tats also say "Tate girl", not "Tate's property". These women didn't even work for Tate.
2 other women that do work for Tate came out and said it's BS though and that they were free to do what they want.
Imagine being a Tate fan older than 12
That's a good thing those 12 yo are the future
@@rhinoman86 dang. 12 but more mature than you. That's crazy
Not a Tate "fan" I'm 27 and he's speaking basically everything I believed in before I even knew who he was. Obviously if he is guilty of sex trafficking I wont support him anymore but people my age already had their mind made up long before Tate showed up. And all of you need to wake up to the reality that many men are completely capable of differentiating good messages from the bad ones.
@@rhinoman86 That's crazy to think just because you're old that makes you special. Amazing. I enjoy not even being an adult and working hard and traveling the country to make money off a hobby while salty old dudes spam the word incel everywhere
@@rhinoman86 How old are you? Calling people Tater tots? Grow tf up man. If you really believe that they're 12 why tf is your grown ass arguing with them?
You think people like you commenting that will change their minds? If anything you push them to support Tate even more because if not Tate then who? People like you the woke ones roasting supposed 12year old's?
I said it from the minute I heard him on the nelk podcast talking about scamming people out of millions, he sounded so conniving and he had the audacity to tell other men on how to live and what they should be doing, when he made all of his income like that? I've been saying he's a snake oil salesman.He's a gimmick.Thank you Destiny!
How is he helping men exactly? Which ones? The one's he's scamming? lol
@@blackheartwornonmysleeve8045 he's helping guys who can only find the motivation to work out and get healthier when they watch videos of Tate and others talking to women like they are idiots with "OMG that was so badass!" Music edited in. It's so incredibly cringy
People who think the Tate audio is a "deep fake" must think he uses the same boasting tone to seduce his female marks, as he uses to scam his male marks.
I get your point, but honestly, they don't think anything at all. For them it is 'defend tate at all cost' kinda deal.
When the news broke of his arrest, the main defence was 'omg you guys would rather there are victims then admit he was innocent'.
There is no thinking these people do. At all.
I don't like Tate, I think he's guilty of sex trafficking, he admitted on video, but this audio sounds like an AI to me. I'm not saying it is an AI but at some parts it has this weird intonation that I've only heard from AI voices before.
People who pine for vulnerable women in this case have no issue with lonely vulnerable men falling prey to cam workers exploitation. As far as I'm concerned the women who flew in to meet Tate had a choice to stay and part take in exploiting men and they seemed to have taken it willingly for many. Where are the moral qualms of the left?
@@avertingapathy3052 if the women could just leave and not participate couldn't men just not watch camgirls?
@@deadams8905 It's a slippery slope. If men get addicted and find it hard to leave aka onlyfans para social business model AND various extotion tactics used by Tate to keep them hooked which were immoral. The women who set out to make money targeting them are seemingly excused of all complicity and seen as purely victims of trafficking. Why can't women be held responsible when knowingly taking toxic high risk arrangements that seek to exploit their cleints without their knowledge. If Tate kept them against their will after they agreed to exploit men, it's shitty but they aren't purely victims in this regardless of how they spin it.
Ultimately it's the consumers responsibility to be saavy but from a moral standpoint Tate is accused of manipulating women whose job was manipulating men, especially around extortion.
I'm not taking Tate's side here btw, it's just the outrage and simping on the left is one sided
FFS... People need to understand what sex trafficking actually is. It seems that no one on the entire planet who is giving commentary on the case, actually took 5 seconds to look up the legal definition of sex trafficking. Sex trafficking is an extremely broad charge, and Destiny is not "broadening the definition", I actually haven't heard him give the correct definition yet. Sex trafficking has 3 legal elements, "acts", "means", and "purpose". Anyone who fulfills those 3 elements, is a sex trafficker. Tate fulfills all 3 elements, so he is a sex trafficker. If Destiny just says, Tate fulfilled the "acts" because no one is debating that those women were harbored at Tate's houses. He fulfills the "means" because he defrauded women by having them sign fake tax forms saying he was "paying taxes" and was just stealing 20% of their earnings from them. While also fulfilling the "purpose" because he exploited their labor by using psychological manipulation to make them think they "can't do the job without him" when he admits on video that is a "fallacy" and they could go start their own cam business which is why the psychological manipulation is so important, you have to keep the girls working for you so you can keep stealing their money, if they just leave and do it themselves you don't have any money to steal. Game over, Tate is a sex trafficker, good luck arguing against the facts I just mentioned. If you come at it with a strict legal definition, there is no defense for Tate, and anyone who tries to defend him will look like they just support sex trafficking. The judge has also already ruled that Tate cannot under any circumstances claim he is "playing a character" at trial, so mention that too if they say "he's just playing a character and trying to entertain people, he wasn't being serious". According to the Romanian judge, he was being serious.
He doesn't need any women chained to the wall, just defrauding the women is enough for him to be a sex trafficker. Tate was also engaged in a specific kind of sex trafficking called "domestic servitude", because the women were doing the cam work from his private residence. These are the legal definitions of "acts", "means", "purpose", and "domestic servitude", as defined by the US State Department.
"The “acts” element of forced labor is met when the trafficker recruits, harbors, transports, provides, or obtains a person for labor or services.
The “means” element of forced labor includes a trafficker’s use of force, fraud, or coercion. The coercive scheme can include threats of force, debt manipulation, withholding of pay, confiscation of identity documents, psychological coercion, reputational harm, manipulation of the use of addictive substances, threats to other people, or other forms of coercion.
The “purpose” element focuses on the perpetrator’s goal to exploit a person’s labor or services. There is no limit on the location or type of industry. Traffickers can commit this crime in any sector or setting, whether legal or illicit, including but not limited to agricultural fields, factories, restaurants, hotels, massage parlors, retail stores, fishing vessels, mines, private homes, or drug trafficking operations.
“Domestic servitude” is a form of forced labor in which the trafficker requires a victim to perform work in a private residence. Such circumstances create unique vulnerabilities. Domestic workers are often isolated and may work alone in a house. Their employer often controls their access to food, transportation, and housing. What happens in a private residence is hidden from the world - including from law enforcement and labor inspectors - resulting in barriers to victim identification. Foreign domestic workers are particularly vulnerable to abuse due to language and cultural barriers, as well as a lack of community ties. Some perpetrators use these types of conditions as part of their coercive schemes to compel the labor of domestic workers with little risk of detection."
Interesting read thanks for the effort.
So destiny basically hard focused on the "means" part of sex trafficking as I understood it right?
I'm not a judge so I'll withhold judgement but as a laimen this seems pretty rough for Tate.
I don't know why his fans are running hard defence for him tho... why not just wait until the court case is done and THEN tell all blue pillers that they were wrong after tates innocence was proven? The way they are doing it now will look really trash either way. If Tate gets convicted then everyone who ran defence just ran defence for sex trafficking. If Tate is not convicted and proven innocent then they were bots in their own words since they didn't wait for all the facts to come out and choose feelings over facts/ rationality.
I don't get red pillers
@@PuddingXXL I think I can provide a reason for why they're doing it. It's because despite what they claim about being logical, thinking for themselves and not believing in the narrative the mainstream media is creating. They're falling for and believing Tate's narrative that he's created. Tate's been saying for a while the matrix is out to get him and a bunch of stuff that implies there is a conspiracy to get him. Probably because he knew the Romanian police have been investigating him since his last arrest in April, which he was able to convince his fans was an incident of swatting. So now he's been arrested again they believe that he was right about the conspiracy. As such they don't need to wait for the evidence because if he was right about that he must be right about himself not being a sex trafficker
@@PuddingXXL Everyone likes to boil it down to left vs right, blue vs red but the reality is that all people defend their heroes to the death. If this was happening to Destiny, everyone of his fan boys would be doing exactly what Tate’s fans are doing. It’s a human thing
@@mrmr2488 the rabid tribalism that exists in modern society is the actual biggest threat.
the tate fans are unhinge
What was the most shocking in that documentary is that Tate had 100 of his most loyal fans come in and he made them fight a professional fighter. Those who refused he shamed them and those who did fight were not even given a prize or something. And all of them paid 4.500 $ to visit their idol.
So you can think all the documentary was a hit piece and Andrew Tate is just a rich asshole, but how the hell can anyone see him as a role model when you make your fans who paid this much money fight a pro. The evilness of that is just so off the chart.
It's basically the same psychological trick he used with the women not showing up with a headache. You trigger them, then offer them an olive branch and they think they got an experience worth a lifetime. Those are men with that psychological make up. Tate has a knack for finding and exploiting these people evidently. Probably how he found so many women for his cam scam too
The people who fought were rewarded and they had a choice to walk away he even told them to leave if they didnt want to fight. Accountability doesnt rest on his shoulders in that situation it lies with those fans. Also to some 5k is chump change. Do we have any of those fans complaining coming out? Kinda defending people who dont want to be defended arent we now?
@@sagen06 i'm sorry that you can't read but it's impressive that doesn't stop you from commenting on the internet. Way to overcome. See you never again.
Christ. Cult. He's his own little Roman Emperor throwing Christians to the Lions. 100% he's been involved in even darker shit than has been revealed so far.
@@LoRe-nm8gd Whyd you waste both of our time saying absolutely nothing? You have a productive day I know you can produce more than that 4th grade comment.
Something I’m finding that a lot of people do not understand about human traffickers is that their victims are under constant threat that makes it look like they’re not being coerced. The threat is usually something with collateral. For example: that pornographic material of the victim will be sent to all of their friends and family. IE: If you don’t do everything I tell you to a T, this will be sent to your grandmother, your parents, your nieces, nephews, cousins, siblings, etc…“ When the threat is always hanging over a victim’s head like that, it becomes very easy to just say “Look! She’s happy, she’s doing this because she wants to!” The threats that keep victims silent are always just out of view.
Would you consider Tate’s audio logs art if they were AI generated
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Serious answer
Yes
I think lawyers are actually encouraged to have that kind of voice. Their goal is to cone off as non-threatening, impartial, and knowledgeable, like they're instructors. The voice is to make them "feel" more credible. I learned a similar thing in a college speech class.
Is this done form of manipulation tactic?
reminds me of Benjamin from law and order
Source: trust me bro
@@Spice.Melange source: he actually goes to school instead of hustlers university
@@srachar saying “i think…” and then giving a whole spiel like its a fact is probably the most uneducated shit you could possibly do.
Btw, not a Tate fanboy in the slightest lmao so nice joke 🤡
Not broadening the definition. Those people never understood it fully to begin with. They have such a simple minded linear thought process
Red pill: long live Andrew Tate, he is a good role model for men.
People : how many of you men will be okay with your daughter dating Andrew Tate?
Red pill: ....................
People: Yea we thought so
why not. If they get married its a huge win for the family
@@dante19890 how?😂
@@GambitRadio who wouldnt like to have a multi millionaire in the family. I would love for my daughter to marry a rich man
@@dante19890 As he treats her like shit and divorces her for an even younger girl that comes along. But hey at least your family got some money.
@@dante19890Imagine wanting your daughter to be trafficked and graped because you like tate. My god this level of cuckery is insane
The same guys that say "I would never be a simp" are openly simping to the Tates
I just listened to the clip of him talking about scamming men for first time. Yea that shit is ultra messed up.
The biggest hurdle that Andrew Tate and his Tater Tots have with the audio that they are claiming is AI is that Andrew only has such a uniquely bizarre accent that is highly unlikely that any AI could mimic that. able to be programmed. His own comical voice will unironically be what does him in.
@Women should cook And clean unprompted Your chin, sir. Here’s a napkin.
I have never seen a slurpage like the Tate fans can do
Tate has groomed more young boys than Jerry Sandusky.
anime pfp
cringe
Oh they love tatering the Tater.
@@Observette Tasty Taters. Remember those? I guess they're back in a new format.
Destiny your mind is out of this world🤯
I am a new subscriber and super in love with your content!
I’m curious whether Andrew tate or a box of fortune cookies give better life advice
@@melinagoranson Andy has done very well for himself despite looking like a botoxed testicle, but he’s a parasite the only thing he can teach men is how to be a parasite but it’s in his financial interest to keep men as sad lonely losers because they’re the one he knows how to take advantage of
I think Asmon was like "What kind of person would say 'I enjoy r*ping you' as a joke?" and I was like "I could see Destiny saying that as a joke to Melina..." and then I thought about it a bit and I feel like he actually may have at one point said that as a joke to Melina... I don't know when, maybe I'm just tricking myself into thinking this, but isn't there a time when he said this? But in a way where it was like obviously a joke... Not in the way Tate says it where he means it...
Un-ironically I think he has before but in an obviously joking tone 😂
Maybe you are referring to the "rape in a bathtub"
go outside
I've seen Speed use it, on one of those highlight reels.
@@toasterstrudils shush
Defence: It's artificial intelligence!
Prosecution:... You think that's "intelligence" ?
The argument of "Most of what Tate says is positive, there's just a few crazy things so he's net good" is like saying "most of this soup isn't cyanide, so on balance its pretty healthy to eat".
So are we suppose to just ignore the good parts?
@@pegasuskiller9905 you can take the good parts but sucking him off & defending him on worst things & justifying all the bad things he is accused of is crazy ''ye hitler did some oopsie but he was great artist tho so lets not only talk negative'' hypothetically if police finds out he killed people & there is literal skeletons buried on his yard you guys still go '' oh so what he says alot of good things you cant ignore thoes'' i feel like most of you tate lovers worst then him & you love him cuz he says & does things that are taboo so you dont feel lonely
@@elioxd8886 that’s what I mean but people don’t even want you to like the good parts
if a random guy said anything what Tate says but being 99% positive, anyone would think he is just faking being nice and a total asshole, this must be extreme fanboying, but most likely his fans are just kids who haven't even spoken to girls
@@pegasuskiller9905 just google and you'll find tens of thousands of guys talking about exercise or self esteem, you don't need Tate, he hasn't said one positive thing that anyone over 25 hasn't heard a lot before
Stumbled on you channel and now I’m hooked. 😂
It’s like the vast majority of people in the world who would defend the worst and most bigoted aspects of religion just because there was one sentence among the paragraphs advocating for genocide that said love thy neighbour or something basic. People pick some side and defend it until they are no longer able to then they distance themselves rather than just take everything as it is. Side note damn that slurping sound is a misophonia nightmare torture session…😢
That fresh and fit Slurp job going crazy.
"If the baby's radioactive..." 🤣
I almost died on chocolate cake. Thank you for making me snort chocolate cake. Icing and all..
I struggle to understand why no one brings up the painfully obvious fact that Tate just leveraged his fame and fortune into APPEARING successful to the mostly young and impressionable demographic of the manosphere so he could scam them with Hustler's University.
Tate didn't escape his past, he was actively using it to start a new swindle, one that's more sustainable and requires less upkeep. He flaunted the cars, money, and women and made it seem like people could reach his level of success through HU.
He's a smart guy, he just realized that instead of Sex Trafficking women and running a criminal enterprise, he could make more money with no legal risk by overcharging people online for shitty courses. He doesn't give a fuck about self-improvement or men's health, he's just co-opting it to sell crap.
Exactly. I also don't understand how people don't see the reason he reached so many people online is because his university is a pyramid scheme. He basically manipulated men into paying him to do his marketing by creating tiktok accounts of him to bring new members.
Anyone who needs Andrew Tate to learn self improvement is incapable of nuance… otherwise they wouldn’t be watching Andrew Tate lol
I fell asleep watching this live, woke up to a full edited video of it. Respect to August.
"Pancake batter" 🤣🤣💀💀
When u have to constantly tell people that ur manly, or a real man or ur tough. Then Ur the complete opposite.
@@melinagoranson what i said has zero to do with trans people or women. What i said is about men being insecure about who they are, when u stand around saying im manly im this im that, its usually cause ur insecure. This applys to anyone actually nothing to do with gender. when people try super hard to convince u with words they are something. then usually they arent. You prove u are what u say with action and living ur life to ur own moral standards.
Mfs think they needed to be in chains for it to be human trafficking
Its funnier to believe at 12:20 they were all just sitting there paused like that listening to the audio. Someone edit that Fresh & Fit episode like they are just listening to that the whole time
A new subscriber. Real Talk with Yanni brought me here.
I have a friend who was scammed just like Tate is talking about. This cam girl pretended to really be interested in my friend (older male about 55) and said she owned a house in the state he lives in. He kept paying her for flights to come out and there was always an exuse, almost always two weeks apart.
Does he also pay for OF?
Anyone who sends money to women on the internet deserve to be scammed. Simple
Is she in jail?
I knew someone like that too. It’s so wrong and the victim blaming is insane :(
All I’m saying is if it were destiny to be charged like this the whole red pill wouldn’t say a word and say trust the law and evidence 🤷🏿♂️
Yeah it's funny hearing them say they'd defend Ethan over this because them being so biased in this situation is exactly why I wouldn't trust them to defend someone outside of their in-group with something like this. If you're position is formed primarily on bias in one situation, it's not going to suddenly evaporate in the next. It's just an easy claim for them to make because they don't expect Ethan to get caught up in human trafficking's. Sure the guy is a fucking idiot but he's not that kind of idiot. (almost definitely, but you can never know.)
@@natediaz1863 Sorry nate but if you've have developed the critical thinking skills to see why prejudice is inherantly irrational then it is impossible that anyone meeting that requirement is going to suddenly become 'red-pilled' because of a bad experience with someone.
Your world view is just really narrow and because of that you're currently unable to imagine that people could be more complex than your best guess. You might break out of the trap you're in one day, or you might not, but at some point you will be sitting around, unsure why the great red-pill awakening never came to be and you'll either have to reassess yourself, or find a new excuse to cope with.
I wish ya luck, I seriously do. I doubt you believe me but as far as little as it means, I hope whatever curious part of your brain is still wondering about all you don't yet know, will eventually pull you out of the hole you've been coaxed into.
I should also say, if you feel like red-pill stuff has done a lot of good for you and that's why it makes so much sense, I would suggest that maybe most of whats good about red-pill or any popular world-view tends to be useful because that's what gives it legitimacy and staying power, but it's also allows all the dumb shit and baggage to persist. I'd cherish what good it's done for you and broaden your outlook to see if there's good to be found in worldviews you're not personally hot on right now.
Unless you start to become a full on communist, if that happens you're probably just retarded.
@@natediaz1863 I'm sorry you honestly think that but still. I wish ya luck my dude.
@@natediaz1863 You change your entire view on a gigantic group of women based on interactions with 1? What?
@@natediaz1863 You're being cynical
Shout out to the dude in Destiny’s chat that made a WKYU reference with the grapist
that sound at 25:43 with headphones on almost made my brain explode
These guys normalized the exploitation of women within the sex industry/clubs to the point where they do not realize that they’ve crossed a line into human sex trafficking. That’s their problem. Whether they think it’s moral or not, these nations still have laws against these business practices.
no country likes when someone brags about how easy it is to rape girls there because the police won't believe them, so obviously they react
I'd be more inclined to believe Tate's defenders when they say he just gives good life advice if 99% of them didn't also seem to genuinely hate women. Kinda raises an eyebrow as to their support of him.
9:50 did Destiny watch the Wubby pancake batter mix off stream?????
I love how Bruce Rivers is also an expert in the Romanian judicial system. Talented dude
I don't want to be the person to say this, but the leaked audio of Tate seems suspicious to me. It sounds like certain parts have been edited or removed. For example, when he says "it turned me on," it doesn't seem to flow smoothly from his previous statement about loving how much the other person hated it. I hope I am wrong, because I really don't like Tate and I have even made a bet with my brother that he is guilty, but the audio seems to indicate that there may be missing parts. I don't know maybe I'm wrong but after listening to it a few times I just feel its been tampered with.
They're voice notes. It's very different than recording a natural flowing convo. But like the lawyer in the video said it's authenticity will have to be proven.
@@deadams8905 I read from Vice that the first part where he said "I loved how much you hated it" It turned me on" was from one voice recording. Maybe I'm looking too deep into it and he was just talking like a weirdo for some reason. Just need to wait and see what happens I guess
@@STOPTHECLOWNS581 there's just a pause in between, like anyone would while thinking
@@srachar yeah whatever I don't really know I just thought it was weird because it happens a bunch of times in the whole thing where there is no pause but I don't want to end up defending tate so I'm just gonna wait until more info comes out
@@STOPTHECLOWNS581 I agree with you it being unnatural, but he's trying to manipulate her, that's why it's off
There might be a concerted effort to destroy Tate by the establishment, but the fact that he handed them all the ammo they need due to his own stupidity and incompetence makes me feel a touch unsympathetic. Just because the establishment is out to destroy him doesn't mean the accusations and charges aren't true. In this case based on what i've seen, heard and read, there alot of it that seems very true. The fact that people are still trying to defend Tate because he's a target of the left and they ignore or discount the growing pile of evidence that he's POS just speaks loads of those defenders.
If establishment wanted to destroy him, he'd be rotting in sands of sahara
"the establishment" doesn't care
Andrew Tate isn't doing anything to even warrant attention.
No. What establishment? What Matrix? This BS is the excuse he uses for the consequences when he gets into trouble.
Let's be rational about this. If there is an "establishment" like the Illuminati or something, why the hell would they care about this guy? What threat is this former webcam scam artist have against this supposed cabal of powerful people? He teaches men to be assholes and have Buggatis? So now those young morons are harder to control now?
If there was this secret society that will eliminate any threat you would think that Alex Jones who spoke against the "globalists" for years or Edward Snowden who actually revealed classified documents would be wacked by now and their stories would never even see the light of day.
@@cp3190 yeah they don’t care about Tate but they took down every social media he owes, his banks, blocked his crypto wallet and spread cancerous lies on his name but yes establishment doesn’t care about Tate, you’re delusional
Wtf even is the establishment in that case? He is so mainstream that it is tasteless - having an awful style, lots of cars only for bragging rights, lots of girls, being a pimp, it is what the "establishment" has always done, the opposite of creative or innovative.
9:55 lmao omg
9:46 please make this segment a short
They have the same accent almost as if they grew up together
But what is it?
The fact that a Jordan Peterson voice AI exists probably means that JP could say some really crazy shit and get away with it. Conversely, it also means that if you're going to claim that a voice clip is AI-generated, you're going to want to point out where exactly that AI voice model is, with receipts on when it was made, else your source is your actual butt hole.
Yeah because it does not happen to you. You must be a genius
There’s also a Dan and Vaush voice chat in Destiny’s chat. Oooo they better watch out! 😂
The Tate audio is from something like a decade ago and the UK police had it at the time. I believe these that have been reased were already verified back then by the Crown Police. So in this case I do not understand why people are going to the idea that this is AI.
@@natediaz1863 That's so long as you're not presenting it as the go-to factual explanation, since that's when it crosses the line from being speculation to being misinformation.
Bro you sound exacly like Quentin Tarantino😂
A trial has been announced? If so when is the date?
Destiny plays like 5 mins straight of Tate admitting to his scams and the dude is just like "Mmhhmm, I'll take your word for that one. So do you think people can change?" Wtf??!! 😆
He didn't show that video to the guy. The editor insert the video so we know what destiny is talking about.
that's an edit of a previous video he isn't showing the guy he's talking to live
@@colinsmith929 OK. So has the other dude seen all that himself? If he hasn't, then he needs to because he's ill informed. If he has and doesn't care, he's completely gone.
He got snitched on today he’s done for
Elaborate please who got snitched on and what was the snitching????
@@matrixmdogI did Tate played with my booty and Greta just stood there and watched as it all happened.
The call instantly came off as hardcore RP
How does Steven’s brain not turn to mush being around these people like F&F? Just listening to their takes makes my head hurt.
He is immune to online bad takes
@@DontEatSmurfs calling it "bad takes" Ia generous
“the sky is blue”
“scam vulnerable women”
“the sky is blue”
“scam vulnerable men”
“the sky is blue”
“scam vulnerable women”
“the sky is blue”
“scam vulnerable men”
“the sky is blue”
wow most of what this guy says is seriously on point
Honestly a great fucking example of deluding the conversation.
Throw in a true statement and all the half truth unbaked opinions come of as true as well via association. I'm stealing your comment now
Destiny why have you not reviewed the statement from a Lawyer thats actually working on the case???
8:55 Yeah this is Donovan Sharpe. I used to follow him, years ago. If you managed to get him on a debate livestream, I'd definitely tune in for that.
the empty echoes of tate brothers screaming at each other in their compound is a beautiful metaphor.
@@melinagoranson Everyone I found another empty echo...
Why are girl answers to Tate on voice notes censored?
Protecting him from his idiotic fanbase
@@thecontextual1one411 or not to expose her willful participation in rough sex?
The moving of the goalposts should be an Olympic even, it's unreal how the Tate defenders are willing to go down for the guy
How do you complete factorio? I've been seeing the same thing for months.
You don't. The official way of ending factorio is to launch a rocket. Destiny did that aprox 6 months ago lol I'm sorry my man but factorio is known for being the crack of games. You'll never see him not play it lmao.
I remember putting in little over 4k hours. This game is such a great fucking mind occupier and logic trainer.
@Pudding Tbh I feel so lied to. He said he will do so many things when he finishes factorio... This is how my Girlfriend must feel
i think its best to just not have an opinion until he is convicted of something, defending him or attacking him rn is just stupid
Exactly
Cope
Kinda it gets views and makes these "entertainers" a profit even our msg just add to the algorithm
@@Observette nice
No you can have an opinion and you can change that opinion as more stuff comes out. If it looks like did something bad to you, you're allowed to have an opinion that he did something bad and if he is proven innocent than you're allowed to change that opinion.
I bet you a lot of die hard Andrew Tate fans don’t think abusive men exist unless they are serial killers or pedophiles
And you delusional feminist don’t think that gold diggers have been manipulating and trafficking men for years but you ain’t ready for that conversation… equality isn’t always equal
@@youngali505 well I’m not a feminist and I think that every abusive and trafficking person should be persecuted regardless of gender
@@gregre99 no we don’t care about your morals we care about the law and grown consenting adults can’t be groomed, leave for the children. If a rich man lets a girl use him for his money, that is his stupid choice, and if a woman lets a man use her for money, that is her stupid choice. . Women are the only people who think they can escape accountability by just throwing the buzz words like manipulation, coerced and groomed and now their foolish action has turned into sympathy. it’s ridiculous y’all are accepting that women are weaker and Should be treated differently which is exactly what misogyny is
1:10 Living in a house with so much echo, I'd go insane. How can you live so uncomfrotably?!
I’m not a tate defender but you gotta admit that the inflection tone and accent changes throughout the recording like it’s a bunch of recordings spliced together
Tate is the coolest person on the planet drinking 5 redbulls!!! WOW 👌 👏 just WOW
Cope
I’d be so embarrassed at this point if I were these men defending and still thinking this guy is a gem. Like the actual fuck. It’s only gonna ruin them too cause who the hell in their right mind is gonna talk to, let alone date or marry these ppl. He’s given them horrible advice and they latch on to it cause they want to blame women and everyone else for their failures in life.
I'm 21 and for your kind information Andrew tate is the biggest scammer and fraud.
@@sohomsen2922 well of course he is, it’s outrageous how men fall in to his trap. He’s a bad dude and don’t care about anyone but himself. It’s caught up to him finally though.
@@natediaz1863 ummmm no, it’s only going to hurt the men using this ideology. The rest of us are going to be living happy, healthy lives and the ones that followed and thought this moron was a god and thought his ideas was so great is still going to be lonely and struggling and more bitter then ever. He’s Rich cause he’s a scam artist and a criminal. He will be in Prison still 15 years from now. This is what you think is a great example to follow? I feel sorry for you.
@@jennahfeindell2447 I'm really glad that he got arrested. I know it sounds a bit toxic but people as despicable as Andrew tate needs to be arrested.