If we ues circpol antennas on Gv2 we should actually see an increase in RF performance - since we now know the O3 antenna is linear (bardwell with info from Hugo Truerc yesterday). Do you know if the O3 would do diversity if it had 2x 5.8 antennas? or is the 2nd antennaport really only for 2.4ghz if needed for RC link? On my longrange rig (Foxeer Aura7) I'm about to swap the original short O3 ant, to 2 TrcSingularity antennas.
Ya I saw that on JB's stream... My testing was with the Goggles 2 so it should actually have worse performance considering that the goggles have linear antenna and now the air unit has a LHCP. I've tried the single 5.8 ghz antenna on both the ANT0 and ANT1 connectors, the experience is the same from a mbps perspective. I suspect it uses both of those connectors for diversity and does not base it on one being 2.4 and the other being 5.8. Let me know what you experience is with 2 TrueRC Singularity antennas, for me, at that point the weight savings is gone and you might as well stick with the stock antenna.
Any radio device that transmits data needs an antenna connected to it or you risk damaging the transmitter. Antennas act as a resistive load on the circuit of the transmitter. The transmitter pumps out a certain amount of power to the connector, whether there's an antenna or not. Without an antenna the power will simply jump back to the other side of the connector and be allowed to flow back into the device. The best thing to do if you only want one antenna is to connect some sort of resistive load dummy to the empty antenna connector. In practice, it may never end up being a problem, but I wouldn't risk it.
Completely agree, but I've also heard that digital transmitters are less susceptible to this. I'll be the guinea pig here and see what happens. The O3 is still working well in this setup.
Transmitting RF devices are not aware of LHCP or RHCP ...they just transmit. The air units can't selectively choose which polarization to transmit with (only frequency)... so the O3 antenna must support both for reception purposes only IF it indeed supports both polarizations.
I would like to see a rang and Penetration comparison. Im in the market for all around good replacement antenna for the 03 units. Also I just learned all we need is one antenna versus two on the 03.😅🎉
I only tested in my typical flying areas and haven't identified a difference. If you want the best range and penetration, best stick with the original antenna.
@@Mangorille yes and specially the difference in range between goggles 2 stock antennas (with aftermarket lhcp on o3) and v2 goggles with aftermarket LHCP antennas
I’m sure there’s a trade off here, otherwise DJI wouldn’t have gone through the trouble and cost of the two antenna connectors. If you want the best penetration, I’d keep the original antenna on the air unit.
My first concern was burning out the amplifier. I’ve been taught that you never run a transmitter without an antenna but it seems that’s more for analog?? Seems to be working fine still, I’m now 7 flight with this setup.
Heyo Mangorille. Do you have any updates to doing this? I am considering using a RHCP and LHCP Singularity for my FPV wing for mounting location reasons. Using The Goggles 2, and not using a DJI controller.
Hey. I haven't noticed any issues yet in my type of flying, I suspect it won't perform as well in highly multi-path situations but so far still working fine.
Fascinating. I have a weird idea. I thought I heard something that the DJI 03 antenna was both RCP & LCP on the same antenna. I wonder how 2 of those True RC singularity's would perform with the 03 Air unit? one with LCP and the other with LCP.
Ya I heard the same. The stock antenna is supposed to be dual band and dual polarization. If you’re going to run two separate antennas then it negates the weight savings.
This is interesting for folks with a V2, don’t think that has dual polarized antennas. On my V2 I’m running 5.8 singularity antennas. Perhaps this is why I experienced better reception on the Goggles 2 vs V2.
@@406fpv9 I think it was on Bardwell's live stream that I heard that the O3 comes with a dual omnidirectional antenna, one that is lhcp and one that is rhcp. You heard differently?
I have Air Unit 03 system, but when i first got it and it was at 50 mbps. Then later on, many flights later, it went down to 30s mbps, what did i do wrong? Can you please help me hope you get back to 50?? And yes it is set at 50, but my DJI goggle V2 showed about in 30s Mbps, i don't get it why. And why is it happening like that and what did i do wrong to change it back to 50?? Let me know, thank you
I haven't had this problem so you'll need to do some troubleshooting. Do you have another quad you can troubleshoot with? Things that come to mind: Any damage to the antenna on the O3 air unit such as the connectors or cables? Can you try a different channel in case there is interference on the channel you're using?
@@Mangorille all of our my drones that's vista, air unit original and 03 system are all the same at 30 to 33 Mbps. There are nothing wrong with their own antennas. I have tried the troubleshooting, but nothing comes up, like ahhh that's why! But nothing, I don't get it, I don't understand how possible this could be.
@@Mangorille also I only have just one channel on 03 system. But I do have 8 channels on Vista and air unit original, all channels are the same at 30 to 33 Mbps. And I do not have discord and I don't plan to have one on my phone, cuz I have try it before, I don't understand nothing of discord so I deleted the discord app.
@@indroneswetrust1 Are they all getting the arming signal from the flight controller? Do you see the battery voltage displayed? The fact that you're seeing this on all your quads makes me look at the goggles themselves. Have you tried to update or refresh the firmware?
@@Mangorille I can fly then all fine, but I don't want to go much further cuz of 33mbps. And the are all on their newest latest update firmware, yes sir
If weight and size are no concern, use the original antenna since the polarization better matches the goggles 2/integra. In my type of flying, I haven't noticed any perceivable difference going with just the one singularity with the Goggles 2.
I understand that the video transmission is on 5.8 ghz. It’s the DJI remote that uses both 5.8 and 2.4. Good idea to set this to manual and 5.8 if you are using the DJI remote but you’ll need to test.
Finally a review about something performance related. Thank you!
Thanks! Happy flying!
If we ues circpol antennas on Gv2 we should actually see an increase in RF performance - since we now know the O3 antenna is linear (bardwell with info from Hugo Truerc yesterday).
Do you know if the O3 would do diversity if it had 2x 5.8 antennas? or is the 2nd antennaport really only for 2.4ghz if needed for RC link?
On my longrange rig (Foxeer Aura7) I'm about to swap the original short O3 ant, to 2 TrcSingularity antennas.
Ya I saw that on JB's stream... My testing was with the Goggles 2 so it should actually have worse performance considering that the goggles have linear antenna and now the air unit has a LHCP.
I've tried the single 5.8 ghz antenna on both the ANT0 and ANT1 connectors, the experience is the same from a mbps perspective. I suspect it uses both of those connectors for diversity and does not base it on one being 2.4 and the other being 5.8. Let me know what you experience is with 2 TrueRC Singularity antennas, for me, at that point the weight savings is gone and you might as well stick with the stock antenna.
At the AU I had a broken MMCX for a few flights, the AU is not broken, still had up to 20mBit at 8km distance.
On which air unit?
@@Mangorille The fist/silver? Or what is the question? I wanted to say that even without antenna the AU does not burn out.
@@BBFPV Got it, that's been my experience so far as well. My O3 has not yet burnt out even after hours of flight with just the one antenna.
Any radio device that transmits data needs an antenna connected to it or you risk damaging the transmitter.
Antennas act as a resistive load on the circuit of the transmitter. The transmitter pumps out a certain amount of power to the connector, whether there's an antenna or not. Without an antenna the power will simply jump back to the other side of the connector and be allowed to flow back into the device. The best thing to do if you only want one antenna is to connect some sort of resistive load dummy to the empty antenna connector.
In practice, it may never end up being a problem, but I wouldn't risk it.
Completely agree, but I've also heard that digital transmitters are less susceptible to this. I'll be the guinea pig here and see what happens. The O3 is still working well in this setup.
Transmitting RF devices are not aware of LHCP or RHCP ...they just transmit. The air units can't selectively choose which polarization to transmit with (only frequency)... so the O3 antenna must support both for reception purposes only IF it indeed supports both polarizations.
Agree, the transmitter wouldn't care but wouldn't the receiver (goggles) also need to have both polarization? I know the V2 doesn't.
Hi, very helpful, good work 😊
Thanks! Happy flying!
I would like to see a rang and Penetration comparison. Im in the market for all around good replacement antenna for the 03 units. Also I just learned all we need is one antenna versus two on the 03.😅🎉
I only tested in my typical flying areas and haven't identified a difference. If you want the best range and penetration, best stick with the original antenna.
@@Mangorille yes and specially the difference in range between goggles 2 stock antennas (with aftermarket lhcp on o3) and v2 goggles with aftermarket LHCP antennas
Good job!
Thanks Buddy!
very nice mate
Thanks buddy
how was this?? lost one antenna in my nazgul o3 unit, my question, is it ok to fly 1 antenna, while waiting for the order to arrive??
I continue to fly with the one antenna since the making of this video. No issues based on my flying style. O3 hasn’t burnt out yet either.
Nice Test... I m looking for this, but did you think you will get a better penetration with the same antenna mounted on your googles to?
I’m sure there’s a trade off here, otherwise DJI wouldn’t have gone through the trouble and cost of the two antenna connectors. If you want the best penetration, I’d keep the original antenna on the air unit.
I wanted to do this but put a dipole on the spare port to prevent any burn out, I never bothered in the end though
My first concern was burning out the amplifier. I’ve been taught that you never run a transmitter without an antenna but it seems that’s more for analog?? Seems to be working fine still, I’m now 7 flight with this setup.
Heyo Mangorille. Do you have any updates to doing this? I am considering using a RHCP and LHCP Singularity for my FPV wing for mounting location reasons. Using The Goggles 2, and not using a DJI controller.
Hey. I haven't noticed any issues yet in my type of flying, I suspect it won't perform as well in highly multi-path situations but so far still working fine.
Fascinating. I have a weird idea. I thought I heard something that the DJI 03 antenna was both RCP & LCP on the same antenna. I wonder how 2 of those True RC singularity's would perform with the 03 Air unit? one with LCP and the other with LCP.
one rhcp and one lhcp on the o3 au is supposed to work well with stock antennas on the goggles I hear.
Ya I heard the same. The stock antenna is supposed to be dual band and dual polarization. If you’re going to run two separate antennas then it negates the weight savings.
This is interesting for folks with a V2, don’t think that has dual polarized antennas. On my V2 I’m running 5.8 singularity antennas. Perhaps this is why I experienced better reception on the Goggles 2 vs V2.
@Mangorille it's not dual polarized. They come with a dual omnidirectional antenna.
@@406fpv9 I think it was on Bardwell's live stream that I heard that the O3 comes with a dual omnidirectional antenna, one that is lhcp and one that is rhcp. You heard differently?
Which connector did you use for the 1 antenna??
I tried both and no perceivable difference. Been using the ant0 connector since.
Dji o3 connector antenna is ufl?
Yes, DJI markets it as ipex but that’s the same as ufl.
I have Air Unit 03 system, but when i first got it and it was at 50 mbps. Then later on, many flights later, it went down to 30s mbps, what did i do wrong? Can you please help me hope you get back to 50?? And yes it is set at 50, but my DJI goggle V2 showed about in 30s Mbps, i don't get it why. And why is it happening like that and what did i do wrong to change it back to 50?? Let me know, thank you
I haven't had this problem so you'll need to do some troubleshooting. Do you have another quad you can troubleshoot with? Things that come to mind: Any damage to the antenna on the O3 air unit such as the connectors or cables? Can you try a different channel in case there is interference on the channel you're using?
@@Mangorille all of our my drones that's vista, air unit original and 03 system are all the same at 30 to 33 Mbps. There are nothing wrong with their own antennas. I have tried the troubleshooting, but nothing comes up, like ahhh that's why! But nothing, I don't get it, I don't understand how possible this could be.
@@Mangorille also I only have just one channel on 03 system. But I do have 8 channels on Vista and air unit original, all channels are the same at 30 to 33 Mbps. And I do not have discord and I don't plan to have one on my phone, cuz I have try it before, I don't understand nothing of discord so I deleted the discord app.
@@indroneswetrust1 Are they all getting the arming signal from the flight controller? Do you see the battery voltage displayed? The fact that you're seeing this on all your quads makes me look at the goggles themselves. Have you tried to update or refresh the firmware?
@@Mangorille I can fly then all fine, but I don't want to go much further cuz of 33mbps. And the are all on their newest latest update firmware, yes sir
Does it matter on which UFL you plugged it?
I tested using the ant 1 connector.
and didn't try ant 0 yet?
Why not use 2? Weight aside...
If weight and size are no concern, use the original antenna since the polarization better matches the goggles 2/integra. In my type of flying, I haven't noticed any perceivable difference going with just the one singularity with the Goggles 2.
So for this 5.8 antenna to work correctly 100% of the time you have to chose channel manually so it wont auto switch to 2.4 ?
I understand that the video transmission is on 5.8 ghz. It’s the DJI remote that uses both 5.8 and 2.4. Good idea to set this to manual and 5.8 if you are using the DJI remote but you’ll need to test.