Tsun's Reactions to the Leader of Each Guild in Skyrim
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- Tsun guards the whalebone bridge to the Hall of Valor in Sovngarde and tests all who wish to pass in a trial by combat. Tsun has a unique comment for each character's guild:
00:00 - Intro
1:18 - Dragonborn
1:43 - Leader of the Companions
2:00 - Archmage of the Mages College
2:23 - The Listener (Dark Brotherhood)
2:45 - The Nightingale (Thieves Guild) 
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“Yeah bro so I joined the empire and made a solemn oath to protect the emperor but then I joined the dark brotherhood and killed him because I thought it would have been funny”
Understandable, have a great day
And hey 20000 gold isn't exactly easy to come by, these houses don't buy themselves.
@@toastrinner4115 laughs in fortify sneaking enchantment*
@@matheusperes Cackles in Cheat Room Mod that allows me to gain millions of gold in sheer seconds
@@CARILYNF cries in console
"By Right of the Tongue. I am Graduate of the Bard's College and many a comely tavern wench have I bedded-" *Gets punched in the face*
Someone has to play the lute in the great hall, I am Dragonborne! Minstrel of the dragon tongue and the stolen sweetrolls!
Stop! You have violated the law. Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. You’re stolen sweetrolls are now forfeit.
@@Jamseth_Ingramious how about you take these and look the other way (45 gold)
As long as it isnt a dnd bard
How dare he disrespect the greatest servant of lady Dibella on nirn?
“By what right do you seek entry?”
“This is obviously a shakedown. (Persuade)”
“Alright, alright keep your voice down. You want everyone to hear you? I’ll let you in.”
5 words that'll get you through any gate.
You're obviously a thief. I kill thieves.
haha anyone got the line with the bribe option?
LMAO im fricking dying rn
Most underrated comment
"By right of procrastination. I've spent over 1,600 hours in this fuckin' game".
So wat? Lol
I bet everyone else has to lmao 🤣🤣
I've spent at least 1000 hours playing skyrim ( NOT including the extra 200 hours i stared at the excruciatingly long loading screen )
16 times the hours
Bruh at that point you might as well OWN the entire fuckin afterlife with that achievement 😂 though now that I think about it, I don’t want to check how many hours I’ve sunk in this game...
"Welcome to Shor's hall how tough are you?"
"How tough am I? I slaughtered the entire town of white run!"
Yeah so?"
"And I _didn't_ reload a quick save...."
Pure evil
Oh shit
"Right this way; Sorry to keep you waiting."
"And, I did it all without being spotted"
@@houdinied8619 such power
I love that tsun responds to the shadier creeds with a long winded version of "Then square up, you silly bitch"
“By right of a little bit of trolling” *pickpockets armor*
@@Couldbedumber *pickpockets battle-axe*
Imagine if the Dawnguard/Vampire faction had a mention here. I would love to walk up as the vampire/vampire hunter that murdered the former vampire leader who received power directly from Molag Bal despite being eons younger then him. Surely that counts for something.
@@FrostReave I imagine it would be right of Valor
@@DepressedCrow pickpockets soul
Takeaways:
1. Tsun hates thieves and assassins.
2. The ancient Nord heroes included many Clever Men (mages), and the ancient Nords had great respect for magic.
3. The Listener of the Dark Brotherhood can redeem themselves and become worthy of the Hall of Valor before they die, but a Nightingale is Nocturnal's bitch forever.
what wouldn't I give to be nocturnal's bitch?
That's why I crossed my fingers during the nightingale oath
I've already sworn myself to multiple other gods and I proceeded to take the skeleton key and never complete that questline because fuck nocturnal
Oh, i suddenly realised that 'Nocturnal' part somewhat makes sense, after all, we see that Gall got sucked into the shadow lake
@@thatonellamawhoissoobsesse8138 weird that you think nocturnal is a bad God even though you probably pledged to vaermina
*though you probably pledged to any Daedra
“I installed a mod that lets me kill Delphine instead of Paarthurnax.”
*Tsun carries you into the hall on his shoulders and announces your arrival to everyone.*
At least Esbern is okay. He's cool and helpful, and not giving out orders
@@izakireemsi2783 yeah, agreed. Delphine is a bitch. If I had the option, I only went to paarthurnax for help
@@izakireemsi2783 ehhhhh he's kinda an ass too
What's the mod called
@@izakireemsi2783 He agrees with Delphine also. He is just less aggressive about it.
"By right of talent. I am the master of the college of winterhold, listener of the night mother, a nightingale of nocturnal, the dragonborn and I lead the companions of jorrvaskr."
"Shor's bones! Go right in I suppose"
Did I also mention in my resume that I collected all the crimson nirnroot in blackreach
@@Olipop2 Don't forget I also collect all 24 stones of Barenziah
@@Mokuro and I killed the first dragonborn
@@Olipop2 that's good and all, but did you have atleast 50 years in experience writing using Thuum?
"By right of data, I have installed hundreds of mo-"*game crashes*
By the power of nexus huge boobed women warrior godess mages
Run moded Skyrim without CTD's is a biggest victory in the whole game.
Reality itself tears apart lol
Lmao
my skyrim with 350+ mods is still more stable than my fallout 4 with 100
I love how he has nothing bad to say about mages. Imagine being a mage from Skyrim, all your life you've been told that your craft is something shameful, something dishonorable and not to be trusted, and then, at the gates of heaven you're told that you had nothing to be ashamed of, that your choices were perfectly right all along. It just warms my heart
and that a mage once yelled a unatrual strong dragon to the future and later yelled the same one to death along his homies who all respect eachother
Yeah lol it’s like the opposite of what gay people will be told after entering Hell
What about necromancers? It seems no one like them
@@donnyvichenzo1996 Well, nords seem very protective of their halls of the dead, so I doubt their culture would ever be ok with anyone who messes with the remains of the dead. We're just saying that nord heaven is ok with people using magic in general, not necesarily with what they choose to do with it.
@@wizzy5702 grow up
"I don't know, I got really drunk and woke up in a cart with Ulfric Stormcloak and now I'm here."
"You are a true Nord."
Some guy with a black and white checkered suit shot me in the head and then I woke up in that same exact situation.
@domino just your run of 24 carot bad luck
@@Johnny_S1lverhand The truth is… the game was rigged from the start. *FUS RO DAH*
@@domino_201Huh that’s weird. Last thing I remember was going into temporary cryo after the nukes went off.
"By right of madness. I have brought cheese from the mind of Emperor Pelagius III, courtesy of Sheogorath."
😂😂😂 how much cheese?
Yes
@@rewto5131 Noice
Tsun-"Shor has many a times sought the mightest of Deadra in combat but Sheogorath is a master of the Clevercraft. I will battle you but please leave his madness on this side of the whale bone bridge."
@@marcus4046the way the second part is phrased makes it sound like a minor inconvenience in the sense that everyone got drunk as hell and the janitor had to clean up afterwards
"By right of Stabilization. I have sorted my Load Order to be perfect."
Tsun: I know not what you speak of, but from your earnest tone I can see you have done something to keep this world from falling apart.
That's so fucking true though holy shit. Lmao
LMAO, that's amazing!
lmao
The Dragonborn has achieved CHIM.
😂😂😂🙌🙌
"I bring sweet rolls for the banquet..."
"By Shor's grace, why didn't you open with that you nave... with haste, cross now..."
Sh*t, redguard! That's all you had to say!
@@maverickcrow6252 nwah would be better for that and. *Somewhere in whiterun* ALL OF THE SWEET ROLLS HAVE BEEN STOLEN HOW?
@@maverickcrow6252 i see what you did there. Lol
At least he recognizes morality. The dark brotherhood and thieves guild are not exactly cut out for sovngarde
Well technically Sithis created lorkhan, or shor depending on the culture, and thus the listener should have a place in shor’s hall
@@glowhoo9226 Kind of. Shor wasn’t really created by anyone. He is the last child of Anu and Padomay. Sithis simply raised Shor, and his sisters Nocturnal and Namira, in the Void and taught them the ways of darkness.
@@glowhoo9226 I had to give you a like since you're using a D1 shader as a picture lol💕
Shor is the soul of sithis and sithis is the soul of padme.
@@Human0245 Padme? From Star Wars? I know what you mean, but it won't stop me from teasing.
Finally a Nord that trully respect mages.
Yeah, perhaps that explained why ancient Nords are stronger than modern Nords.. They probably uses powerful magic and that Thu'um stuff back then...
@@redpanda3339 Oh modern Nords still respect the Thu'um as demonstrated with people's deference towards the Dragonborn or the Greybeards. But yea, Ancient Nords respected plain ol' magic more than most modern day Nords do.
@@aroguebard i think modern nords dont like magic simply because of their history with elves, after the many fights with snow elves dwarves and darkelves i can see why their distrusting of magic as elves are typically more proficient in it
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙 🤙 🤙 🤙 🤙
@@brandonwithnell612 It's actually the High elves fault that the Nords hate magic since Nords during the Aldmeri Dominion wars don't use magic as they dislike it seeing it as a coward's art. When the Empire was about to lose to the High Elves due to their magic and elven weapon the Empire was force to sign a one-sided treaty which ban all worship of the Hero god Shor which result in the Nords hate in magic along with Elves of all kind, but they especially hate the High Elves as almost all High Elves in skyrim are with the Thalmor. Wood Elves they just dislike, but don't hate Dark Elves are the other hand are treated badly due to how a huge influx of them flood into Skyrim due to the eruption of the Red Mountain. Modern Falmer are basically monsters that needed to be put down by the Nords while the Ancient Falmer are extremely well hidden so the Nords have no clue some survive the purge Ysgramor did.
Me: naked and unarmed with 100 buckets and an absurd amount of cheese
I’m the one who will punch the crap out of Alduin
At least you'll get to stay in Sovngarde.
“By right of massive balls. I will blind Alduin with my buckets and stealth punch him until he dies _and_ I haven’t quick saved for an hour!”
@@billg1308 Dont need a quick save you can just resurrect yourself if you die.
Glad to know I’m not the only keeper of buckets and cast iron pots. Ima naruto mother that shit
that absurd amount of cheese would get you the favor of sheogorath tho, the strongest daedric prince
Me, the Nord Archmage: *pointlessly bites back bittersweet tears of validation after decades of ridicule and pure scorn from peers from beneath my dragon priest mask* alright, Tsun. Imma me show you how I became the Archmage. *starts **-spamming-** casting fire storm.*
Tbh I’m a little bitch so I just cast Twin Souls of Conjure Dadric Lords and let them beat the shit out of everything before I even get there hahaha
I just sat on the whale bone thing and bopped him repeatedly
I became Archmage even i only use blades and bows Xd
Goddammit, this was just a roleplay thing. I like dramatic, tragic hero's that help in spite of any scorn they get. Especially if they go against the grain. Like that one nord student.
Typically, I usually use two handed great swords, especially the dwarven or dragon bone great sword. However, I have one playthrough saved where I roleplay as a nord that specializes in magic, only able to use daggers with any amount of proficiency. A nord that grew up wanting to be a master of the "clever arts". That's what I was going for.
Not to complain, of course, just stating for the record.
@@DaddyVeo1911 lmao that’s all good. That’s pretty cool tbh. I’m an argonian nut job mage who’s quest is to collect as much knowledge and artefacts as possible and turn all the houses I buy into museums and library’s of the books and stuff I’ve collected lmao. I’m a knowledge gremlin 😂
I wish they would've include dawnguard dlc as options. Become vampire lord is no small achievement, neither does slaying harkon as dawnguard
I had more trouble with the snow elf. Harkon was weak, like I was disappointed at how weak he was.
@@luckisluck I guess that's because he stops leveling with you before mr. bad snow elf. I tend to have it the opposite way because of mods.
It’d be cool if they also added options for the Dragonborn dlc. Like “I defeated Miraak”
Also dragonborn dlc I don't think killing the greatest dragonborn that ever existed is a minor achievement
@@M.H.E. I was level 30 on my first playthrough on ledgedary.
Dragonborn: "By right of wise investments, mighty Tsun. I have a monetary stake in every blacksmithing shop in Skyrim, and I've acquired half of a narcotics distribution network through my wife, Ysolda."
Tsun: "Take your leave of Sovengarde immediately, cur! Your ilk are of worse standing than a craven bandit, in mine eye."
Never should have come here!
@@Cynna_M lmao
@@Cynna_M Kicked out of 140+ cities and states, including Sovengarde.
"As for 2 hours ago, I also own this plane of existance."
Ferengi vs. Klingon
"By what right do you request entry?"
"Well, I found Noster's helmet... I, uh, got the Stallion's potion for... Whatever his name was... Oh! And I've got something I'm supposed to deliver. Shor's hands only."
"Ugh...fine, enter, but come right out, you hear me?"
No it's
"By what right do you request entry"
"I've been looking for you, got something I'm supposed to deliver your hands only"
Me wanting to drag every Nord by there beard to this bridge so they can hear the respect one of there demi gods gives me as a mage of Skyrim.
Getting respect in Sovngarde is the ultimate fuck you to the "go cast your fancy magic someplace else" crowd
Oh you want me to cast my magic somewhere else? How about *actual Nord heaven* , is that an appropriate place for my fancy magic?
Tsun is not a demigod, he is a full, literal god.
To be fair, most mages of Skyrim have simply mastered the art of being annoying little bitches who spam the same spells over and over
@@PotatoBug66 “just fists and none of that fancy magic stuff”
*dons gloves of the pugilist with malicious intent*
People don't realize how HUGE Tsun is until they go to third person. This dude could eat the Dragonborn and want seconds.
Yep but chooses not to
The guy is a fckn mountain literally
Yeah the guy is fuckin built lmao
Well, he is a god after all.
@@DHAGSFU He ain't tho
So he loves warriors and mages but not thieves/assassins. I guess that’s understandable
I really like the fact that he shames you for using the term plunder instead of stolen goods. Shows a real sense of his morality
@@sheravmaharaj317 I wish you could go back to sovangard and have more dialogue with him depending on what you answered. Like if you said your an assassin he’d tell you to get lost coz he remembered what you said. But if you were a warrior he’d be glad your back.
Naw he loves warriors period he's a Nord lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂 if any Nord says something good about mages that is sarcasm lol I never heard a Nord speak good about a mage lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣 n ment it
@@spiritualwarrior864 Not surprising mages are shit in the Skyrim. Both as a class and within the game in general. They do nothing. Only ones who do stuff are the healers in Whiterun.
@@User-12658 ya they can do alot but decide to do nothing becuz magic is dangerous the only ones that really do anything with magic is necromancers n witches n they are destructive thts why the mages choose to do nothing with magic but they do practice n study magic.
It’s adorable how you position yourself next to the person in front of the camera, and do wardrobe changes for the scene. It’s like doing a little interview for the audience. 😄
Tsun: "By what right do you seek entry?”
DB: "I don't even summon Durnehviir for combat. I just summon him all the time just so he can fly around in the free skies of Skyrim so he can be happy for a bit."
Damn right. I feel terrible for that dragon. I hate that desolate wasteland, even the black soul gems aren't enticing enough to keep me there for more than 30 minutes. I wouldn't wish an eternity in the Cairn on the embodiment of evil let alone a well-mannered dragon.
@@sentientbeing8738aye, the only time I came back there after the quest is to tell Valerica that her hubby is dead and she can bounce. Nobody deserves to stay in that shithole
YOUR NOBLE HEART SHINES THROUGH THE FOG OF AGES. YOUR HEAD SHALL BE HELD HIGH EVERMORE
@@JB-xl2jcINDEED IT WILL!
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Tsun: by what right do you claim entrance?
Me: I’m the Harbinger of the Companions, Nightingale of Nocturnal, Listener of the Night Mother, Master of the College of Winterhold, Champion of the Civil War that divided Skyrim, Thane in Every Hold, Champion of Every Daedra, and The Dragonborn
Tsun: You’ve sold your soul to the dark mistress
Me already taking out my daggers: don’t insult night mommy
One thing I don’t do is champion for most deadra, molag bal mehrunes Dagon vaermina and clavicus vile, something pleasant about telling them to get bent
@@jeremygeller9145 fair, but mehrunes dagger is pretty op/fun, ngl
lmao "don't insult night mommy"
beautiful..
@@jjrulez1596 ehhh badass sword crafted from the bones of a dragon enchanted with fire and lightning that kills in two hits, or tiny knife that sometimes kills instantly think I know which one I’ll take
@@jeremygeller9145 fair but the insta death is still hilarious when it happens to strong enemies, or really anything.
By the right of seemingly always being in the right place at the right time, I am the leader of literally every guild by now.
It was a lot better in Morrowind, where choosing to join one faction made you the enemy of another, so you couldn't be the leader of everything.
I also wish you could choose to destroy all the factions instead, and choose not to be the hero.
But you barely have any choices...
So wat? Everyone is it's Skyrim lol
@@Tasorius
I mean, that defeats the purpose of it being an RPG... I mean, you don't HAVE to join any Guild if you don't want too, but you'll still have to be the hero of the game, of at least a key part of the story
@@thalmoragent9344 Choices are a big part of an RPG. They do not defeat the purpose of one. I should be allowed to be an evil character, and the main quest should have multiple paths to allow for more RPG elements and choices, as opposed to one linear main quest that you have to follow to even get to the last boss.
@@Tasorius
So, instead of defeating Alduin, you'd want to have the choice to help him or just not do anything and let him end the world?
I mean, you're asking for multiple, drastically different endings? Wouldn't the story have to be at least during a time frame for a certain event? I mean, the Oblivion Crisis was gonna happen whether you wanted it to or not, and and Bethesda allowed for you to be the main person behind stopping it, but that doesn't mean you can't be a morally bad or good person while doing so.
How would you prefer they handle the games then?
"Well-met, mage of Skyrim. The Nords may have forgotten their forefathers' respect for the Clever Craft, but your comrades throng this hall. Here in Shor's Hall we honour it still."
After hours of guards, innkeepers and citizens sneering at my character's magic skills despite her being capable of reducing them to piles of ash or making them attack each other in a frenzy, it was really good to hear this. My magical strength received praise from a member of the Nordic Pantheon. In your face, Nords!
Ironic that one of THE most powerful mages in history, Shalidor, was a Nord.
@@jack-exzolt9858 Indeed. Magic is much like swordfighting in that it requires strength, patience, dedication and training to wield properly. But the modern Nords cannot see that, for the most part. Not helped by the fact that most of their bitter foes in recent memory have been magic users.
@@samalvey8168 I think it's the Winterhold Cataclysm that set it ablaze. And most of them are hypocritical anyways.
They disdain mages, yet Healers and Enchanters gets a pass apparently.
@@jack-exzolt9858 Healers are useful because their spells can restore a warrior to full fitness and health in moments, whilst Enchanters can imbue weapons and armour with spells that make them more resilient and effective in combat. But you are right in that it is hypocritical of them to disdain spellcasters whilst making use of magical items. Hell, Ulfric himself carries an enchanted steel axe and the Stormcloaks see him as the paragon of a true Nord. And the use of the Th'uum is a specialised branch of magic, yet the Greybeards are not met with such disdain.
Saying you can frenzy the masses into slaughtering each other doesn't exactly breed trust among the non magical folks
"By right of exploitation,my wooden sword named flacid glock can kill alduin in one hit"
In ur dreams it can 😂😂😂😂 a wooden sword is only good for the fire thts it.its useless
@@spiritualwarrior864 You have never seen what kind of staff the players can do - like near damned infinite damage wood sword. And it is so easy to do it ain't even funny.
@@spiritualwarrior864 you don't know the power that futile seeming items can possess
@@spiritualwarrior864 you underestimate the power of exploited enchanting.
@@spiritualwarrior864
FORTIFY
RESTORATION
Imperial victory-
Tsun: by what right do you request entry?
Dragonborn: by right of Duty. I fought for my Empire.
Tsun: to place oneself between countrymen and their enemies is noble indeed. Your sacrifice is honored here, and may you find friendship in former enemies.
Stormcloak victory-
Tsun: by what right do you request entry?
Dragonborn: by right of Courage. I fought for the Stormcloaks.
Tsun: you wear your convictions well. To fight for what one believes in is worthy indeed. Your sacrifice is honored here, may you find friendship in former enemies.
Dude, well done. Seriously, I love this.
Tsun: by what right do you request entry?
Dragonborn: By right of Genocide. I destroyed the Thalmor to the very last man and sent them packing back to Summerset Isle with their cowardly elven tails tucked between their legs.
Tsun: I would let you enter the halls immediately, good sir. However, I still have my duties to attend to, just as yours has.
@@linuxblacksarena I think Tsun be more like:
"So, you take the path others fear to travel, knowing the truth of the troubles in Skyrim. Whatever reason for your actions, skyrim is better for it. Please, honor me, and show me in battle how you bested so many Thalmor.
By the right of immersion commitment, I gave up fast traveling this playthrough.
Fuck, go right in. Some solid determination right there.
"A true hero of Skyrim, I dare not face you. Enter Shor's Hall at your leisure."
I do that for every game I play because it's more fun. I don't even use the carriages, I just run there or take a horse. Though I play as a werewolf, so my running is a bit easier. But not when I play a loyal to fact werewolf and make it interesting so I only turn at night or when I visibly see the two moons full(which by the way changes after the first few days because the day you get out of Helgen is always a double full moon, but you can reload saves after and it changes for no reason at all).
@@LycanFerret that's where we differ. I don't fast travel but the carriages are lore friendly and immersive still.
I've actually got a funny anecdote.
During my first playthrough of Skyrim, I didn't know you could fast travel in the game. I finished pretty much every major quest line and spent over a 100 hours in the game before I realized you could fast travel.
I've got no excuse for why I thought that way since I'd played other Bethesda games before that. I just never really checked and thought that the horses and carriages were supposed to be how you move faster from one place to another.
"By right of wisdom, experience and the well-traveled. I am Dragonborn helming the Companions of Jorrvaskar. Archmage of the College of Winterhold. Listener of the Night Mother; and a Nightingale of Nocturnal. An elite Vampire Hunter of the Dawnguard. Conqueror of the First Dragonborn and tamer of dragons. self titled Keeper of the Black Books of Hermaeus Mora. Master of the Thu'um. Scourer of Ancient Daedric Artifacts. Collector of 24 stupid shiny floaty rocks. And lastly; I. am. homeless.
It’s so beautiful cause you’re right
the rockS lmaO
Guilds have beds that you can sleep in so you are not homeless.
the homeless part is the one you wanna pay attention to
@@davidbigel9447 Ya, the entire world is my home...
"By what right do you request entry"
In real life I'd be nervous for I don't know what is the right answer. But in this game... I'm overconfidently would say, "Take your pick"
In real life, being archmage of a college of mages would be a full-time job. In this game, I spent one month at the college, became Archmage, then haven't visited once in 9 years.
@@creativecredence850 1month? Damn I probably only stayed the night or two
@@creativecredence850 I wonder if the dragonborn can clone himself. He can be alot of things in such short time...
@@davidevans7477 would be more realistic to make an animate corps intelligent enough to do it for him
@@yep1486 They wont recognize the corpse as their leader, and some factions will outright see it as heresy.
With the power the dragonborn wields, h may be able to put his essence/soul in many bodies at once.
Tsun: by what right shall you enter?
the random guard that gets killed by alduin: I'm fightin for my fucking life, man.
When Tsun respects you for being Archmage: And at that moment, all of Skyrim shook with the Dragonborn's laughter, because a Nord god respected them for being a mage and regular Nords didn't.
Seriously, I can't think of a bigger L to the "cast your fancy magic somewhere else" people lmao
My favorite part is that sometimes the guard will say they have a lot of respect for the restoration school, but they will immediately tell you to "watch the magic" if you cast healing near them
@@shadowfox933 No no, you totally misunderstood that. Magic is a public spectacle in Skyrim, so they're telling everyone around to watch the magic as you perform it. ;)
People don’t trust mages because they exploded all of Winterhold and 90% of Skyrim’s problems are because of necromancers and people tampering with soul gems and Daedra 🥴🥴🥴
@@BruceWayne-fj9bm Winterhold collapsed due to the eruption of Red Mountain, not because of the Mage's College.
Leaves like ratio at 420 because win.
I just realized this is basically a job interview and we have to tell Tsun our resume.
By right of plot. Where the little floatie arrow points I wander.
“By right of Infamy. I killed Paarthurnax, killed Barbas, left Nazeem alive, left Grelod the Kind alive, said I would adopt a child in the worst holds then proceed to not, killed Amren in front of Braith and let Braith bully the other children, and having my child adopt a pet just to wabbajack the thing”
You're a monster
Molag-Bal welcomes you
@Christian Apocalypse Paladin heresy!
And then, Tsun gave out a loud voice, and all the warriors and heroes sitting in the Hall come marching towards you to kill you...
@Christian Apocalypse Paladin I'm not sure if there are any laws against... whatever it is you're doing, but I'll arrest you if I have to.
What in my fk is that profile pic
By right of the Bribery perk!
*drops 100k septims at Tsun's feet
*gets axe'd
“Shor does not know you.” This supports my theory that Lorkhan, who is Shor, has cut himself off from Sithis. He was born from Sithis, the void of chaos, as a rival of Akatosh but has cut himself from his old self. He no longer seeks to destroy, but to build.
Also sovengarde’s entire existence is him making an army preparing for someone, basically handing out smash bros invites to build up the greatest army in history
If Alduin isn’t Akatosh/Auriel, then how do you know if Shor is really Lorkhan?
@@marek9364 I read somewhere that auri el represents the begining akatosh the present and alduin the end so they are just 3 different aspects of time making them all connected and same just doing different parts of the work
@@marek9364 Okay, kind of a lot to unpack here. Alduin isn't Akatosh or Auri-el. Akatosh and Auri-el are different aspects of the same god, Nord and Elvish respectively but function independently. Alduin is the FIRST BORN of Akatosh, a creation of him. Where did you even get the idea that they're the same from? I can kind of see how it would happen as the Nords do also call Akatosh Alduin very occasionally, but the book "The Alduin/Akatosh Dichotomy" written by high priest of the Akatosh Chantry debunks and explains this.
"Yet there are those who believe, even in this enlightened age, that this is not so. That the regional interpretations of Akatosh are not interpretations of Akatosh at all. Rather, they are references to altogether different deities, deities who may or may not share the same aspects or be the Great Dragon at all.
Many Altmer of Summerset Isle worship Auri-El, who is the soul of Anui-El, who in turn is the soul of Anu the Everything. But if you ask the high elves themselves (as I did, when I traveled to Summerset Isle to continue my research), the majority will concede that Auri-El is but Akatosh with a different name, colored by their own cultural beliefs.
So maybe it comes as no surprise that the real theological dissention lies in Skyrim, among the Nord people - renowned as much for their stubbornness as they are their hardiness and prowess on the fields of valor. When I journeyed to the stark white province, I was surprised to find a people whose views on Akatosh are almost diametrically opposed to those of the Altmer. The majority of Nord people seem to believe that their Alduin of legend is not Akatosh, but another deity entirely. A great dragon, yes, but not the Great Dragon.
Determined to get to the heart of this matter, I consulted with several Nords, chief among them an old and respected clan chief by the name of Bjorn Much-Bloodied. And what surprised me most about those I talked to was not that they believed in Alduin instead of Akatosh, but that they recognized Alduin in addition to Akatosh. In fact, most children of Skyrim seem to view Akatosh in much the same way I do - he is, in fact, the Great Dragon. First among the Divines, perseverance personified and, more than anything, a force of supreme good in the world.
Alduin, they claim, is something altogether different."
It's also worth noting that the author then goes on to question certain legends of Alduin and their validity due to lack of evidence from Nords passing down knowledge through word of mouth rather than literature. However, all those questions and legends are proved in Skyrim such as Alduin eating the souls of dead to maintain power and being something of a "Dragon King" that other dragons followed.
The conclusion the author makes is definitely incorrect " it is my conclusion that the Alduin of Nord legend is in fact mighty Akatosh, whose story grew twisted and deformed through centuries of retelling and embellishment," as we can easily trounce Alduin being the same entity as Akatosh with one question. "Why would Alduin create the dragonborn if his desire was to eat the world?" Other than that, Alduin is never shown to hold any power of a god, just a supremely powerful entity created by a god to start the next kalpa.
Next, "how do you know if Shor is really Lorkhan?" is a very strange and unrelated question to how you prefaced it. We know Shor is/isn't Lorkhan. Shor is merely the nordic aspect of Lorkhan. "His most popular name is the Elven variant Lorkhan, or Doom Drum, which sometimes appears as LKHAN or LHKAN. Names for versions or aspects of Lorkhan include Lorkhaj (the Moon Beast) in Elsweyr, Lorkh, the Spirit of Man, the Mortal Spirit, or the Sower of Flesh to the Reachmen, Sep in Hammerfell, Sheor in High Rock, Shor in Skyrim, and Shezarr in Cyrodiil." We don't know what happened to Lorkhan after his shattering, but it seems to remain that these aspects of him are quite active. This is supported by how Shor isn't absent in Sovngarde because he's dead, he's not in Sovngarde because the last dragonborn, unknowingly, IS SHOR.
If you read all this, thanks for entertaining my tangent lmao. But yeah there is absolutely no question that Alduin isn't Akatosh/Auri-el and that Shor is Lorkhan.
Lorkhan/Shor never was Sithis
Sithis is just another name for Padomay and all Padomay was is just a personification of the force of Change
The contrast to Padomay/Sithis is Anu who is the embodiment of Stasis
And all godlike beings of the Elder scrolls mythos are either Anuic, or Padomaic
The ones we see the most often are the Padomaic types, who are in fact the Daedra
But even non Daedric beings can be Padomaic, such as Lorkhan/Shor
And Lorkhan/Shor is seen as an element of change because he changed the very make up of the cosmos by allowing for the creation of the mortal plane
“Living or dead… You still can catch these hands”
yeah basicallylol
"I-I didn't mean to let you into sovngarde because I like you or anything... I'm just doing what shor says to do!!!"
-tsun
OH NO 🤣
Dragonborn to Tsun: "Notice me senpai!"
By the Ni- ah, I mean Eight! Why does this comment exist.
NOTICE ME SENPAI
**loads crossbow with malicious intent**
@@BananaChicken21 I CANNOT BEST YOU
"By right of patience, I collected all 24 sotnes of Barenziah and all the crimson nirnroot"
Tsun:......... enter. No one does that quest.
this feels like a "dont talk to me or my son ever again" condition
"don't talk to Shor or mine Tsun ever again." is more like it lol
@@scythescythe884 pfttt 🤣
"By right of the sweet roll, I have taken every confection in Skyrim for my own, and no one shall again steal them from me."
I love that in this game when the Dragonborn dies a few gods are going to have to fight each other for his soul
Until you realize that one of them is Molag Bal, and he'd probably win.
Odds are Akatosh's claim to his Last Dragonborn'a soul when he dies will outrank whatever mediocre Daedric Prince thinks they are going to do
@@madmanszalinski he soul go hermaeus mora
I mean we don't what LORE dragonborn meat All Daedric princes but he 100% meat hermaeus mora because he beat Miraak
This Sounds Like A John Constantine Scenario.
Akatosh wins automatically because he's Akatosh
I think Bethesda could made Tsun's battle a bit harderd. If you reach his vigil in a level over 50, fighting against him it's so easy!
They made it easy so you can beat the game basically whenever cause alduin scales to level 10
I one shot them both
Well I guess storywise he is only testing your skill
Easy? I always have to use cheat to fight him, he took half of my health when I fight him!
@@mettawatkutaninwat5411 what I literally one shoot him with any cheat I mean if you know how to play skyrim is super easy game expect some specific enemy
By Right Of Cowardice: I'm a sneaky sneaky archer!
Tsun: "Well, I'm not letting you in if you can't beat me in a fight, ... wait where did you go and why are there 5 arrows stuck in my head?"
*spit* fight like a man and play combat Archer
@@SirConto was probably the wind...
Shor does not know you
he killed my stealth archer in 1 swing
Go ahead, tell the class what you did during summer break, Urzophumph Graduk
Whenever I play skyrim, I always do this quest last. I imagine that the Dragonborn says all of these in a kind of recap of everything leading to this point. I think it sounds epic and makes the fight with alduin more "final".
Me, a two-handed, heavy armor, smithing max level: “I’ve had this battle axe since Bleak Halls Barrow, and I’ve honed its edge to a sharpness capable of felling an Elder Dragon in 4 hits. I don’t know if spirits can feel pain, but if you wanna learn the hard way, I will teach you.”
Tsun: •_•
Do you bleed...?
YOU WILL
Me, a man of simple means but wielding a dwarven greatsword: "My sword has gotten very dull. However, it's three times as thick and does three times the damage of a normal sword. I don't know if spirits or gods can die by mortal hands but you better hope you die quickly or this could be very painful."
"A mace is simply a sword or axe that's been neglected too long."
-Gaiden Shinji
@@DaddyVeo1911 That thing was too big to be called a sword.
Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.
@Christian Apocalypse Paladin I just use swords, quick, simple and can be used for foreplay, a true companion to a lonely soul
“ Even though the nords of Skyrim forgotten to respect the clever-craft, by Shors thrung you are honored here “
God I love how honored Warriors and Mages are in Shors Hall, makes me wanna make a Nord Mage who remembers the history of the clever craft and honors it by both combat and creating
Ah yes the old Spellsword category (Bretons and some Nords)
Frost Mage Spellsword son of Skyrim
Me: Hell yeah, this shit is awesome.
Me in Sovngarde: Shor’s realm draws my breath in hallowed awe, as I gaze upon the souls of the heroes of old, men and women of renown, who have withstood the wrath of mighty Tsun.
And then I steal all the cheese.
I think being a Stormcloak or Imperial officer (highest rank for each) should've been included..
Stormcloak- By right of Honor. I have led the sons and daughters of Skyrim in the fight for freedom.
Imperial- By right of Duty. I have been a loyal soldier of the Empire, and did swear undying loyalty to the Emperor and all Tamriel
"Well met! There will always be a place here for those who fight for Freedom."
"Welcome, pride of the legion! Many here remember marching with Talos Stormcrown, you may have forgotten but they have not."
@@rentablescroll6207 That's awesome
And then u assassinate the said emperor...and the contractee
“Gonna have to stop you right there, sir. This hall is a dedicated haven of the “fuck both your factions” faction. You’ll find the opposing general sitting in the dirt outside.”
He seems more pissed ab the thief than the assassin
@Some corrupted dude who's racist Yeah, he dislikes Both but can respect assasins who have at least some semblance of a code, at least in his eyes thieves are without honor
@@taleoftwowolves74 No you literally kill people chosen randomly as a brotherhood member. At least the thieves guild just steal and shun murderers.
@@irarelyupload6930 Thieves Guild and the Nightingales are quite different.
@Some corrupted dude who's racist A good thief never kills anyone. Once they do, they lose that title and just become bandits.
@Some corrupted dude who's racist "Perhaps we should find a random stranger to murder. Practice does make perfect."
By right of what the fuck luck, i am the last of Dragon blood, Harbinger of Hircine, Arch-Mage of skyrim, servant to Nocturnal and Listener to Night Mother.
Good luck guessing where I'll go when I die. I'm the bitch to so many demons and gods they'll probably have a war over my soul.
@@rockythesnailracechampion7144 I wish they expanded upon the many guilds you could join make them make more sense, it makes no sense that you can join them all, in some manner though I'd guess that would mean they'd have to actually put these gods and daedric prince's in the game and make a political system with them or some shit.
Like I'd expect consequences for even talking to a god while worshipping a daedric prince, or even some deals made between daedric prince's so they both could own a piece of you.
A missed opportunity on Bethesda's end
@@soilthestillborn4949 eh, missed opportunity to lock out really good questlines.
I like the openess, and also infers that if you follow everyone, no one can take you in.
@@soilthestillborn4949 If it was an RPG or "in real life" if you were already a Vampire/Werewolf you could not become Nocturnal's champion. Because Nocturnal would not accept you since your soul is already in Molag Bal/Hircine domain.
@@jkgf4671 that'd be cool af
personally, i think you should have been able to do the thieves guild storyline in full but had maybe two paths. one as a nightingale and one just as a master thief. i dont wanna sell my soul to nocturnal
"welcome to Sovngarde, a place for warriors to rest. By what right do you seek entry?"
"I stab people and steal their stuff"
Sigma male grindset right here
Honestly i find tsun one of the most interesting characters shown in an elder scrolls game
Tsun is quite literally a god, the nordic aspect of the Zenithar oversoul.
In morrowind, mainly during the imperial cult quests (and once during the main quest) you meet some aspects of the gods which are pretty neat.
But here is different as this quite literally is a god, an actually worshipped aspect of Zenithar.
Alduin is similar as he is the nordic aspect of Akatosh but i feel tsun is more interesting because he is in the form of a man
EDIT.: after further learning i not longer agree with the last statement fully. Yes alduin is a part of akatosh but as are all dragons, he was just the first and given a duty specifically. However for the sake of the record i shall keep the error in my comment so the replies can be understood
Alduin is not the Nordic aspect of Akatosh, they are totally different gods. Alduin comes to destroy the world, while Akatosh is the god that maintains time during the worlds lifespan.
Bruh, read lore again. You got them all wrong xD
Auriel creates time
Akatosh mantains time
Alduin destroys time
Humanoid
Half humanoid Half dragon
Dragon
Akatosh is the Nordic Pantheon's version of Akatosh/Auri-El, that's just how it is plain and simple. The idea of Aka-Tusk(That Auriel, Akatosh and Alduin orginally were part of one soul and were "shattered") is from Kirkbride's out of game fanfictions and is non canon.
@@nepnep1453 To be fair, the idea of Aka Oversoul is acknowledged within ES universe through the Truth in Sequence book in ESO with mentions like the "misassembled dragon that breathes dry falsehood and whose name is 'Multitude'", which is a reference to the illusion of duality caused by time and space, and Aka shattering himself apart to create time. Sotha Sil and his followers seems to acknowledge and believe in a lot of concepts that came from Kirkbride's OOG writings.
By the way, the Nord chieftains in ES universe also doesn't agree with the view that Alduin is the Nordic Pantheon's version of Akatosh/Auri-El. They see this as a oversimplified view that stems from misunderstanding of the Nords' belief.
"Determined to get to the heart of this matter, I consulted with several Nords, chief among them an old and respected clan chief by the name of Bjorn Much-Bloodied. And what surprised me most about those I talked to was not that they believed in Alduin instead of Akatosh, but that they recognized Alduin in addition to Akatosh." - The Alduin/Akatosh Dichotomy
I like how surprised he is at the Arch Mage coming in. With the amount of proud Nord warriors that Tsun's had to fight after so long, I can understand how relieving it is to fight someone who isn't a melee build.
I’m still surprised no one did a mod of Tsun (dere), despite all the jokes
"Whom I watched for in vain"
Sad. :(
Don't worry, Kodlak will enter when the mist is cleared :)
“By many rights: birth, cleverness, and glory, I ask for save harbor across the Whale-Bone Bridge. For I am the Dragonborn, the Companions’ Harbinger and College of Winterhold’s Arch-Mage.”
- Me, probably.
He was also supposed to have dialogue relating to the Dawnguard DLC but these were removed in patches
Do we know what his redaction was
What do you mean by "supposed to have"? If "these were removed in patches" then they did exist, so how is it supposed to exist? It either was supposed to exist or exist but was deleted.
@@jkgf4671 It’s possible they meant ‘partially implemented’, like the lines were written and could be seen using the workshop - but they forgot to get the actor to record the lines so they just deleted them.
@@williaml840 anyone know what was written?
"By right of immersion, I've downloaded several combat mods, including Smilodon-" *Gets kill-cammed instantly.*
what’s bad about smilodon :o
@@noahk2987 Nothing at all. The joke is that Smilodon makes damage more realistic, so Tsun would kill you instantly.
Sweet vindication hearing him praise mages. I loved hearing that. True Nords respect the arcane arts
Tsun: “By what right do you seek entrance?”
Goku: “I here there’s some strong fighters in there! Square up!”
Tsun: "By what right do you request entry?"
Me, a 7-foot khajiit, naked but for a crown of aetherium and someone else's wedding ring, Wabbajack in hand: "bY rIGht Of raNDoM!" -turns Tsun into cheese
That's just shaogorath saying hi 😂
Well, I guess the game did come out in 2011 after all...
What is a wabbajack
@@kelbyschultz1877 A staff that turns npcs into random objects basically
@@soggy5854 ....your joking
tsun is a god hes a giant
He's a runner he's a track star
Atmoran
@@ChristianAuditore14 There is no evidence in the lore that they were that tall. Skyrim is inaccurate with this though. Bosmer aren't all that short in the game and Orcs are inaccurately depicted as bigger than Nords, who are the girthiest race and the second tallest behind Altmer.
He's technically Zenithar (at least, the Nordic aspect)
Ya he's just a giant Talos is the one thts considered a god among nords n a hero tsun is a Nephelim
Tsun after killing the Dragonborn: wait.
I just killed our only hope of freeing these souls
Usually when I get pretty far in the Main quest I almost always select the right of blood Dragonborn choice because I’m fulfilling my purpose and am on Dragonborn business
Me too. Feels weird to pull any other tittle for this occasion.
That's how I do it too. It just feels wrong to use the others, save maybe the companions line, but it's like "I'm here to kick ass and take names, and I'll be damned if I don't beat you first"
Welcome to nord heaven how tough are ya
How tough am I? I defeated a giant with a single arrow.
@@ohapplesauce "Without any milk."
how tough am i? i won a drinking contest against a daedric prince, married a hag raven, stole an award winning goat and sold it to a giant, convinced a woman to seld me a wedding ring on credit by telling her my love story with said hag raven and i made a mess out of a temple of the goddess of sex!
all. in one. night.
@@HeartLancer Without any skill points
Dragonborn "By right of console commands! I'll just type this in and glitch right past-"
*Readies Lightning bolt*
Shor: "And I took that personally"
He has a different companion dialogue if you cure Kodlak before going in
Edit: no he doesn't
Do you know what it says?
i also wonder
Sir what does he say
nvm I was wrong lol. I remember him being in the actual hall but he shows up in the mists along with the lost souls, hence the reason for the dialogue
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined
Lol this looks like dragonborn interviewing tsun 😂
This just doesn’t feel right without the glorious Sovngarde theme in the background. Still, nice video.
"By right of Tom, i speed at great lengths, survive perilous falls, wiggle thru any door, and see the beyond of this realm more times than there are numbers. Even my steeds are capable of such feats, under my guidance. In the true words; "It just works.""
- Speedrunners and or anyone who abuses the many bugs in this gane
*"By what right do you seek entry?"*
*"I've done all the side quests"*
**Out of nowhere**
Courier: I've been looking for you! I have something I'm supposed to deliver your eyes only.
“By right of time, I’ve put 5000 hours of my life into this game”
I was just trying to find a video about this, and you just posted it! Thanks a ton!
"By right of having completed every side quest ever! Seriously dude, check my track record!"
Rambo: So you're a hero. huh?
Tsun: Prove worthy by warrior's test, and cross the bridge to the blessed hall.
Rambo: Nothing about this place makes sense.
Tsun explains perfectly why I can never go through the completing thr Thieves Guild questline; as soon as Karliah says that my soul will be bound to Nocturnal forever I nope the Hell out.
I do it for that reason, I like to think everyone fights over the dragonborns soul if you become everyone's champion
I just take the Nightingale armor and leave without making the deal to get Karliah out of hock with Nocturnal. Then I TCL up and into Irkngthand and fight my way to Mercer Frey, take his stuff (which unfortunately does not include the Skeleton Key), TCL up through the rock blockage, and leave Brynjolf and Karliah to their fate. Back at the Thieves Guild, Vex is a little peeved that I whacked Mercer, and demands 1,000 Septims to get back in her good graces, but that's it. I don't get to be Guild Master, but that just spares me the grind of all those city quests. =^[.]^=
@@tommyjohnson100 Ah, John Constantine. The hell are you doing on youtube?
To be fair, Nocturnal is one of the better ones.
Just pledge your soul to as many gods and daedra as you can, then became a vampire and stay in your undeath forever (no, vampires don't actually lose souls, soul trap still gives black soul unlike other undead).
They should've added a special dialogue if you'd fulfilled all titled questlines, wherein Tsun gives you a special reaction for all your work, and lets you right in, or offers you an extra difficult fight, with a special reward.
...You realize he disapproves of about half those quests, right? 😆
@@jonquilgemstone honestly he approves of 3/5 which is a net positive, and would also, frankly, just be fucking baffled by all 5 very different roles and titles obtained in what was likely done in the span of like, 3 months, tops, in game.
By right of that big castle I own, the general lack of sun, my adopted children, my bonemold helmet and this tentacle sword; I did the dlcs first
To clear some stuff up Nords don't hate mages the oblivion crisis is the main reason for most magical hate that and the more recent one for Skyrim the great collapse which is when winterhold skyrims former capital fell into the sea yet the college was unharmed not to mention Nords are protective of their dead and the college of winterhold has no problems with necromancy.
the college of winterhold has explicit and very blatant problems with necromancy. Its stated when you join, its stated in sarthaal, its stated by other characters (for example, when doing Blood on The Ice, the court mage you can accuse calls the accusation of necromancy preposterous, with his first immediate defense being "my standing with the college is good" which lends credibility to saying that the college very very much so is not okay with necromancy.
“You trespass here shadow walker, Shor does not know you” (2:23) is eerily similar to “I never knew you, depart from me ye worker of iniquity”
"I am dragonborn."
"Ah, a warr-"
"And leader of the companions, archmage of winterhold, listener of the brotherhood, guild master of thieves, head of dawnguard and technically leader of a vampire order, ally to all daedric Lords, hold a number of royal titles on different holds, part of the bard's guide, dabble in necromancy, owner of an ancient gem crown and a long lost dragon priest mask, land owner of several houses i built myself, adopted several children, married several people... Oh, and I found all crimson nirnroot in blackreach."
".......You put off the main quest and did all the side quests first didn't you?"
"Yes."
*Sigh* "Just... Go."
"By what right do you seek entry ?"
"I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee"
He's huge his scale is 1.34 that makes him about 8 ft i think.
Ya thts why I said he's a fckn monster lol he is a nephelim
@@spiritualwarrior864 A perfect Atmoran.
He's actually 7 foot.
@@H.K.5 Nope he is 34% taller then 1.00 scale. so he is around 8 foot. Ebony warrior's scale is 1.21 which is 21% larger then 1.00 making him 7'1. If you compare ebony warrior to Tsun you will see he's way bigger then 7ft.
I wish there was an arena or fighters guild in Skyrim so you could tell him
"By right of combat, I have achieved victory in various arena and become grand champion. Therefore, I challenge you to a battle using only fists, let us drop our weapons, magics, and armors, and fight only with what we were birthed mighty Tsun!"
I dont know why but a challenge of pure fist fight to a gatekeeper like him seems the most honorable and badass way to do it.
A Skyrim video posted 3 days ago that already has over 200k views. This game really won’t die… that’s why it’s awesome
Definitely my longest played game.... I ussually fire up a new playthrough (a few, I'm bad about restarting, it's very frustrating for me) every few months.
“By right of Justice. I have slain Nazeem in the heart of Whiterun and freed the Shopkeepers to work in peace.”
Tsun: “By what right do you request entry?”
Dragonborn: “By right of body. I’ve mastered the Dibella arts.” *(Unequips armour)*
Tsun: “…By what right may I request entry?”
It's dumb that you can't just say all of these at once and watch him have an existential crisis.
Thanks for making these videos bro, I love unique dialogue
"By the right of patience. I spent over a thousand hours modding this game and now here we stand in 4k resolution"