FINALLY WATCHING the MCU Movies... *The Avengers*
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Welch: “What if they’ve been working with Hydra the whole time?”
Me: *nervous giggling*
I'm surprised he has no clue concidering winter soldier came out before ant man
As a huge infinity saga person (all movies from start to end game), I can certify it is OKAY to not know what’s going on.
Can confirm. Movies will still be fun even if you don't know everything, or missed a movie. It's okay to just enjoy the movie. :)
all the movies up to endgame haha i felt that
MCU movies are much more funny than people give them credit for. Especially because lots of the humor is just funny lines that feel pretty much in character for whoever says it.
True, I think it's a fair critique that the MCU jokes are repetitive in tone, but when it works it works.
I think that’s also the nice part about the various movies having different directors and different styles because they also have different tones to them. The Guardians is more meant to have stupid humour (though I love that it gets darker in the third movie) while Captain America’s trilogy has more of a darker and more serious mood to it.
"I'll do you one better! Why is Gamora???!!!!" Completely improvised line, yet is absolutely something Drax would say. 😂😂😂
The Issue with the MCU's comedy (in recent history) is that it's just taken to mimicking the comedic styles of Iron Man as well as James Gunn's films. When they saw how popular Tony Stark and Peter Quill were as characters, the MCU basically copied those two personalities onto every single character.
@@danielgiovanniello7217 yeahhhh that is a bit of a recent issueee 🥲
Re: the Hulk, basically if Bruce turns into Hulk unexpectedly (due to stress or uncontrolled anger) then the Hulk is impossible to control. BUT, if Bruce *chooses* to turn into Hulk in a controlled and conscious way (like in the climax) then Hulk is more reasonable and controllable.
I do like the explanation given in one of the hulk movies even if its not canonical for the MCU in that the hulk is just hyper aware and everything is all pouring in at once so he has little control since he's basically a drunk Bruce and can't process everything that's happening.
The reason that Captain America gave Nick Fury ten bucks is actually a reference to the previous movie. Steve said nothing would surprise him anymore and Fury replied 'ten bucks says you're wrong'. That's why Steve randomly gave him money (although some of the other headcannons I've read about it are pretty damn hilarious too)
That exchange actually happens in this very movie, in the scene where Steve is training with the punching bags
It happens in this movie, not the previous...
To be fair about Loki and being threatening; the MCU in the early days up to phase 2 was often criticized for it's poor villains. Heck I think Samuel Jackson even jokingly stated the MCU has better heroes and DCEU has better villains. Loki was more liked because he was funny and clever, not so much because he was intimidating. It wasn't until Phase 3 that MCU villains began to get better accord to the average viewer.
So Hulk is an entirely separate personality from Bruce caused by a lot of childhood trauma and excessive amounts of Gamma radiation who usually only comes out as a defense mechanism when Banner is stressed, hurt, cornered or close to death so no he cannot control what Hulk does when he comes out
"I know this is Loki. Is he so strong or are humans just so weak?'
Yes 🙂
To be fair he is meant to be a god of magic not might and he's still canonically in the lift 60 ton range and bulletproof to small arms range. Asguardians are on the average suprrisingly powerful for how much they get slaughtered in these films.
Loki isn't what you'd call a great fighter, but he has powerful magic. Also, he's a Jotun (Frost Giant). Similar to Asgardians like Thor, they're really physically strong. A normal, unpowered person fighting Loki without a special suit, looking at Iron Man here, is getting their ass beat.
EDIT: Thanos didn't change race, they just made him a lighter purple. In the post credits here, he was basically a plum.
They’ve always been sleeping on Loki and his Jotunness
Look, I know I should be caring about the fact that Welchy is reacting to the Avengers (AKA the coolest movie ever to an 8 year old back in 2012) however I just can’t get over that cool as hell neon umbrella
Right??! This is the thing people should really care about tbh 😆
@@Welchy It shines like a halo, mate.
The reason why Loki doesn't feel threatening is because, at the time, Thanos was the one wearing the big boy pants. Loki was the scout. Thanos was the army.
Hulk grabbing Loki and tossing him around like a ragdoll is so funny 😂
Upon release, that scene got cheers and standing ovations whenever I went. I saw it 5 times in the span of a week (other friends and family wanting to go). The noise at the scene was always so loud that I had to go home and look up what Hulk said when he walked away (Puny god).
@@dustinwilson4815 Lmao 😂🤣
"I have to get off this Planet" 😂
@@dumajuhanikristiantategami4586 who said that? I must've missed that line
PLEASE continue with the Marvel movies! Not all of them are bad! There will be ups and downs but they are ultimately worth watching! -said an Infinity Saga Fan
So the theory is that thanos was controlling Loki to an extent, which is why in the end Loki’s only reaction to being arrested, so to speak, is “can I have that drink now?”. The hulk beating the crap out of him knocked him out of his mind control, just like the hit to the head knocked Hawkeye out of the mind control.
I don't care how many times I've seen this movie, I will always laugh my ass off when Hulk ragdolls Loki.
I'll admit I WAS curious to see how you were going to react to the whole 'Bruce Banner is explicitly suicidal' bit, to the point that in the comics it was a very important deal, but in fairness I see a lot of other reactors skipping it for some reason.
Hulk and Bruce are explicitly completely separate personas; at this point Bruce is able to influence the Hulk's behavior if he changes voluntarily, but when he changes as a result of stress, injury or loss of emotional control, Hulk comes out and fights EVERYTHING. On some level Hulk is a threat response taken to the extreme, and the entire world is a panic-inducing, terrifying thing that has to be fought so nothing can hurt him. As noted by other commentors, Bruce has Dissociative Identity Disorder and the Hulk is an alter; in the comics he has a lot more of them. Hulk is SIGNIFICANTLY more intelligent than you might assume, at this point he just kind of hates everyone out of embittered spite.
Note also that Bruce and Hulk's behavior honestly isn't that different, both of them antagonize Black Widow (possibly because at this point Bruce might see her as a personification of the military/industrial complex that's been hunting him for the last several years). Bruce does it with mind games and exploiting the fact that he KNOWS she is absolutely terrified of the Hulk because she can do nothing to stop him; if she tries to fight him he will immediately kill her and if she tries to manipulate him, Hulk will KNOW she's manipulating him and insta-kill her on general principle.
Fun fact, there IS a character in the MCU noted for killing gods, though it's not Hulk (that said Hulk is fully capable of killing gods). Hulk is more of a World-Breaker.
More fun Hulk facts! Bruce was subject to incredibly violent child abuse essentially as soon as he was born; his father took Bruce's intelligence as a sign that his son was a monster and violently abused Bruce and his mother (who tried to protect him), instilling in Bruce a deep-seating belief that the abuse was his fault and that he WAS a monster; this was the genesis of the Hulk, gradually emerging in Bruce's mind to protect him by becoming everything he hated in himself to externalize and point at and say 'that monster isn't ME'. The abuse culminated in the death of Banner's mother, which Bruce has spent his entire life blaming himself for. Years later, shortly before the accident that physically created the Hulk, Bruce had a violent altercation with his father at his mother's grave, ending in Bruce murdering his father by smashing his head into the gravestone. It is deliberately ambigious whether the Hulk is responsible, or if in a fit of rage Banner finally let out all the hate and rage seething for 20+ years but didn't want to acknowledge that hate was a part of him.
At his core, young Bruce always felt he should have been big enough and strong enough to save his mother. Now he is. And everything Banner doesn't want to admit about himself is also true in the Hulk, who is the part of himself he wants to pretend is an outside force. The other part of him, the face in the mirror he doesn't want to see. (Anyway the point of all this is that Hulk-centric stuff tends to be kind of... intense.)
12:35 " imagine they were working for hydra this whole time "
Oh you have no idea 😂
The security guard at 18:22. I find it funny how you remark "and you aren't questioning this?" because that is a famous actor as the security guard who has played many crazy roles. He was put in this movie at this point specifically to be someone who just accepts Banner/Hulk. Originally it was a longer scene.
Good luck Welchy, there will be highs, there will be lows, and extremes of each. But the umbrellas got your back! ☂️
And yeah, Avengers is a great one
if you're really reacting to all the mcu films from here on i hope you'll enjoy gotg! it's my fav mcu trilogy and it stands out from the other mcu films. it has its own personality and i love the characters with all my heart :D and the music choices are chefs kiss
Don’t know about all, we’ll see there’s a reason I wasn’t a fan and stopped 🤣 but ya never know we’ll see!
@@Welchy I’m not a fan of some of their latest films but there are some genuinely good older ones 😭looking forward to it if you ever plan to continue
Welchy does prefer serious MCU films, so I doubt GotG will be that good in his terms.
@@rudrodeepchatterjee gotg does have some serious moments tho, it has a good blend of charisma and charm + comedy and serious/ sad moments
@@Entxq_ yes it does. But you may have noticed the slightest bit of comedy that is not perfect for the situation is disliked by Welchy. While the comedy feels balanced, Star Lord has too much comedy for his taste. I feel like only GotG 3, and the second half of GotG2 would be appreciated by him.
From this point forward, we go into Phase 2 which, admittedly, is a phase known for it's VERY high ups and it's VERY low downs (luckily, the worst of the phase are around the beginning) because, at the time, it was doing the impossible and Marvel was trying to get it's new footing now that Disney (which bought Marvel just in time for the release of Captain America 1 and to be in control of the MCU as of Avengers) was giving them everything they needed and wanted (well, at least what they could at the time; they couldn't do anything involving the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man yet due to them being owned by other people...heck, there were even shared film rights for Hulk with Universal Pictures and that's why there hasn't been a film starring the Hulk since).
Fellow umbrellas...
This is...
going to be...
AWESOME!!!!!!!
You know it
Bruce can control the hulk! It was loki,s scepter that was making him go mad thats why he picked it up when they where arguing and also why they where all arguing it was emitting a frequency that was affecting there brains.
Ahh I see, thank you!
24:06 by far one of my favorite moments in the entire Marvel franchise. I love Loki but my god, this is hilarious.😂
"YES! THAT' HOW IT FELLS.... I'm just a big fan of this sport" -loki ( thor ragnerock)
I don't think the MCU has over-the-top humor. Maybe the humor is a little bit much in Phase 4, but still, there are some really amazing moments that balance all that out. Every phase of the MCU has something really unique to offer. And I think it's worth giving it a chance. If you think about it, these aren't just superhero movies -- they're actually movies about real world problems and they sometimes go very deep into character's thoughts and emotions. Also, I don't think there is ONE movie that is the start of the MCU going "downhill." I just think there are some movies that had more work put into them than others.
A very important fan theory is that in this movie Loki was mind controlled and tortured with the mind stone by Thanos.
The reason for that is that in Thor (2011) he tried to kill himself and in this movie he shows up in a bad physical condition wanting to conquer earth and take the Tesseract with an entire army.
This theory is supported by the fact that in this movie Loki's eyes are blue while in Thor (2011) they are green.
Plus in future movies while still being a trickster and a bit selfish he is never as villainous. He's basically not the villain but a mild inconvenience at worst and very helpful at best
No longer just a fan theory Marvel confirmed it on their official timeline on their website
@@Phantom_Fireside Really? I thought it hadn't been confirmed because they never acknowledged it in Loki
14:47 it's not explained well in the movies but bruce is said to have DID/ dissociative identity disorder so hulk is an alter(same as moon knight)
Spoilers:
but since technically later on when hulk and banner supposedly combined, it probably means bruce made peace with his alter / accepted that he is a part of him
bro spoilers why
@@ExtrusionXDesigns ?? What spoilers
@@Entxq_ I think he means the "huk and banner combined" part. Maybe just put a little spoiler warning in front?
@@infinitepossibilities2862 okay gotcha I edited my comment sorry it’s cause it didn’t seem too big of a deal when my family saw the mcu films as in it didn’t feel like a spoiler or that shocking of a thing
@@Entxq_ No it's totally fine, it's not that big of a spoiler, just a little one :)
12:12 I remember reading one time that Robert snuck in these blueberries because he was hungry and they wouldn't let him eat 😆
Nobody gets the Steve gives Fury money thing, it's so weird. He wasn't bribing him, he wasn't tipping him. He's paying up on the bet Fury made earlier when Steve said nothing would surprise him. "10 bucks says you're wrong." The helicarrier surprised him so he pays up.
Idk how people don’t catch that 😂
I caught it on my first watch and It's one of my favorite jokes in the movie precisely because of how subtle it is. Very well excuted set up and pay off. 😂
You should propably have started with Thor 1, Iron Man 1 or 2, Captain America 1, or Hulk. Those come before the teamup.
ikr right starting with the avengers is confusing to new marvel watchers. (ignore that i think it was the first MCU movie i watched)
@@Roi55 It was the first one I watched too haha
The "It's all a joke" thing is a dippy meme going around. The MCU never becomes all a joke. For some reason, the film bros have gone off on the fact that all of the movies from the start have incorporated humor as part of the tone of the series, and some properties lean a little harder into it than others, but yeah. This is what the MCU is like in general, as far as the tone goes.
As someone who watched the Infinity saga for the first time (plus the Spider-Man trilogy) very recently, the claim of MCU having lame humor is a pretty unfair stereotype. Some movies absolutely handle the humor better than others but generally speaking I did not find the humor to be a major issue. A lot of the jokes land. Avengers is a good example. So is Iron Man. GOTG stands out precisely because it leans into the humor in a way no other movie in the MCU before it did. Same with Ragnorok. And yet, people act like that was the norm.
I forgot how good the first Avengers film was because I too felt that it all kinda went downhill somewhere around this point 😅
Great video!
I don't know if you ever would but I highly recommend you watch The Crow. It's dark but very meaningful and it has real life tragedy that happened during filming. It's a cult classic. It's my favorite movie of all time
Where did you get that glowing umbrella? It's beautiful 😭
Some dodgy website tbh 😂😂
@@Welchy Lol, the best stuff usually comes from dodgy websites 🤣
I want everyone to know that Welchy is my Avenger... 😛😛😛😛
Stapppp you
MID 😳
Don't worry about Phil, just a little time in Tahiti and he'll be right as rain! It's a magical place! :DDD
Anyways, I would totally recommend the show Agents of Shield. It takes place immediately after the Avengers and it's definitely the most connected with the MCU films. S1 is more fun and laid back, but s2 and onwards is when it gets some of the best writing in the MCU.
The original 6 avengers scene is my favourite and the Loki getting smashed but hulk was pretty funny 🤣
Welchy: it’s the oldest trick in the book
The moment: Loki becoming a hologram
Confirmed Welchy is a hologram
Yes
One word: FINALLY :D
I watched this movie twice in cinemas for a reason 😄
The movie that began it all an was the best Marvel ever made I remember watching it in school in 2012
Everything up until endgame u will definitely love…. People say that after that its not very good but there are still a lot of good movies like all the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies, all the guardians of the galaxy movies (especially the one that came out this year - people say its one of the best marvel have ever made) and the doctor strange movies. Even the series like Loki, Wandavision, agents of shield, moon night, hawkeye etc.
that umbrella is sickk!! i was just watching the umbrella not the movie😂
😂😂 it’s understandable!
Welch's....mate...it's 1am and I was about to sleep
My apologies 🤣
@@Welchy lucky you that I always look forward to your videos....unlucky for my sleep tho😅
The group didn't have strong feelings for or against each other when they gathered originally, but the Scepter in the room slowly affected their minds, increasing tensions and consequently, turning them against each other until an immediate threat finally put them back to concentration. The death of Coulson (who was quite likable and known to everyone in the Avengers in some way by the time he died) also helped to unite the group against a common enemy. Just to explain since you seemed a bit confused that the group works together well at the Battle of New York.
That neon umbrella is amazinggg 🤩we’ve been upgraded! also the Japanese in the beginning 😂😂 ded
I love all the Marvel Movies! Some more some less, but what's so enjoyable about them is that they are, mostly, light to digest! I actually really enjoyed the last Thor movie a lot. Black Panther - Wakanda Forever was an amazing, yet emotional, movie. I have yet to watch the new Guardians of the Galaxy but I actually really liked the last Ant-Man Movie not gonna lie.
Kang was the best part of you ask me.
Thor Ragnarok is amazing and I think Welchy would really enjoy that one. Guardians was super freaking AMAZING!
I cried so many times watched Wakanda forever. It felt like my heart was being ripped out man
Gotg vol3 is must watch, personally love it more then Endgame, it's top 5 mcu for me for sure
It’s easier to be a Marvel fan when you appreciate a movie for what it is. I’ve become more negative about some of the phase 4 movies just listening to people complaining. But I just try to focus on the positives now and have fun with the movies for what they are. Parts of Thor 4 are enjoyable, and Ant Man: Quantumania and doctor strange 2 have their nice/emotional moments
12:03 I feel like it’s important to note in these moments that Steve has only months ago woken up 66-67 years in the future ,found out everyone he knows is dead or not got long left and for him he just saw his best friend he’s known his whole life fall to his ‘death’ because he couldn’t save him so I feel like he can get a pass for being a bit serious 😂 although I do think marvel could have done a better job at showing this instead of Steve just sounding really rude through out the movie but one thing I like is when he gets the wizard of oz reference, I mean he looked like a golden retriever getting a treat 😂
Winter soldier is awesome too but even if you don’t see it, this reaction was amazing!
What makes me mad is the fact that in comics and in avengers assemble Cap and Tony are best friends with strong bonds, and mcu didn’t have enough time to show us this
elchy, there was one more end credit scene for Avengers that you seem to have missed. It's short, quiet, and humorous in a very understated way (especially considering how tired and beat up the team is in it).
12:35 there's no way my man said a whole plot of future movie that earlier 👀🤯👏🏾
1:14
The gem is inside the cube.
this is the movie my bf and i went on our first date to see in theaters... our 11th anniversary is in a few days and we've seen all of them (well, maybe missed a new one or two because he's on night shift now, but we'll get to it lol)
There's are no real bad movies in the infinity saga films (including the one I don't want to mention, people get heated on both sides). But a couple are generic, and the one I won't mention is very much bland and generic film for me but is still OK and not a bad film.
Even after that, there's still been some very good movies, but it's becoming very hit and miss to an extreme in recent years.
The comedy in this movie was perfect bc they didn’t go over the top with it, felt serious 90 percent of the time
tbhh i haven't watched any marvel movie in a while so this video is fun to watch. The neon umbrella is amazing and i love it so much
Love this, love you welchy ❤
10:07 love how he goes through what everyone went through with Loki when this came out
In the Incredible Hulk Banner says he may not be able to control Hulk but he might be able to aim him. He also is shown at the end meditating and then his eyes turn green and he smiles implying he may have gained some measure of control of the change outside of when he is overwhelmed with pain, stress or anger.
always look forward to your vidios on sunday
Appreciate you🥹
I've only been watching you for 2 days and I have binge watched nearly all your videos lol
0:37 Japanese Thanos sounds fucking cool 😂
"How have they downgraded?" As a hardcore marvel fan... I would fucking LOVE to know the answer to that as well.
I randomly feel the need to defend our dearly departed Phil Coulson here. When he says "I watched you when you were sleeping" it doesn't sound creepy and stalkerish (and I think that's the joke) but he means he was monitoring Steve when he was brought out of the ice coma or suspended animation. It was technically part of his job, since we saw SHIELD agents were monitoring him at the end of "Captain America: the First Avenger" and someone had to alert Nick Fury that he was awake.
But he probably asked for that assignment because he was such a big Cap stan. ;)
If Banner chooses to turn into Hulk he is in control. If he looses control and turns then it's a problem.
22:55 Hawkeye has a power that he didn't even know he had for most of his life. True Aim. He just thought he was very skilled, but he actually has powers. It gives him perfect accuracy with any projectile.
24:20 "And you did nothing about it!? You could have closed the portal hours ago!"
No, his mind was being controlled by Loki using the Sceptre until about two seconds ago
2:28 Prevailing theory is that Hawkeye did not want to kill or wound Fury, so purposely show him in thick armor. Like how Selvig was able to make a back door to stop the portal device while under control.
Personally I like the theory that its basically convincing someone you are their best friend any anything they tell you just makes sense. So if Loki specifcally told Hawkeye to kill Nick he would but in the absence of that instruction its a "My friend say's we need Iridium and to take down the Helicarrier? Makes sense. Oh my other friend and boss is trying to stop me? He doesn't understand he's in the wrong I'll just take him out without killing him, he'll understand later." Essentialy the same approach a rogue Hawkeye would take in dealing with Fury normally.
‘There are always men like you’ gives me chills every time
Have to add, I love your snarky disrespect for the whole franchise. It is so refreshing. You are the Deadpool reactor of the MCU. Good job!
This is one of my favorite movies! so glad you enjoyed it
Coulson means he was watching Steve 'sleep' as in, when Steve was frozen in ice he had to watch over his body, but it's also meant to sound weird because Coulson is nervous around his idol (Captain America)
I wish u reacted to everything in mcu in release order
This entire saga (ending with Endgame, and Far From Home as an epilogue) is really good and 100% worth watching! I supposed with “downhill” you’re talking about some post-Endgame projects that have been ‘not-so-good’. Not all of them though. The third Guardians of The Galaxy movie that just came out for instance, was awesome and one of the best in the MCU imo.
I’m a big fan and I’ve watched these movies all in order multiple times, and I am still confused 😃
I completely forgot this movie existed. I watched it way back in the day and somehow my brain filtered it out of existence. I thought Infinity war was the first avengers movie and I have yet to see end game. I'm so behind. Loved this.
Wait until you learn about Age of Ultron 👀😂
3:49 the relationship between Hawkeye and Black Widow is one of the best in cinema imo. Showing how you can have a deep meaningful friendship that does not need romantic will they/won’t they.
theres no words to explain how much i love you welchy
Aww thank you may!!
@@Welchy omg you know i exist IM SCREAMING RN
Yess im here for it. U better watch them in order. Itll get u in ur feelings
Ya just imagine if they were working with hydra just imagine
Each MCU movie is at least 1 genre. Ant-Man was adventure/comedy. I'm not sure one is romance only, but we have advanture, quest, comedy, spy thriller (as you saw from The Winter Soldier), a buddy movie, war movie (both contained in Cap, The First Avenger), mythology (with Norse Thor and Loki) so on. No, when Fury was recruiting Steve, he bet him that the world is stranger than Steve knows, so when Steve arrived to the bridge of the helicarrier, Steve paid the bet because he lost. No, Jane Foster is a scientist, as introduced in Thor 1. Great reactions.
Loki is the best baddie … so much fun! Don’t forget the after end of credits piece as well … most movies have the two.
I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE IN A WHILE - THAT NEON UMBRELLA! AND IT BEING FUCKING PURPLE! HELL YEAH!
WOW WHERE U BEEEN HUHHHHH
@@Welchy HONEST TO GOD, I BINGE WATCHED MY FAVOURITE REACTIONS OF YOURS IN THE PAST WEEK TO THE POINT OF FATIGUE 😭
“Imagine them working with Hydra this whole time”
Now that you've STARTED this MCU journey, you MUST continue... That's why I just subscribed. 👍😀
6:55 it's because he's the god of Mischief, can't really trick a lot of people if you intimidate them first
I could do this all day. The MCU reactions are fantastic.
7:41 earlier in the movie
Steve: I doubt anything can surprise me now.
Fury: bet ya 10 bucks you're wrong.
"I'm just here for a good time"
Me too :)
"Phase two? Forget that, I gave up on phase two"
That has got the biggest laugh I've ever given on any watchalong video
Especially since the start of phase two is crap, then Winter Soldier happened
Welchy: is happy when civilians die
Also welchy: "what I've realized is, people don't actually care about each other"
Welchy: "Imagine they were working with Hydra this whole time."
Me: "Oh...you sweet, sweet summer child."
"I don't know why I find destruction and death so enjoyable. Am I a psychopath?"
Well if you're one, then I'm a psychopath too *WHEEZING*
In fact I am pretty sure it was deliberate that they cast an elderly Jewish actor to stand up to Loki in that scene 🤔
I love the new umbrella in the back!❤
Plz plz go back to the beginning of the MCU you will not be disappointed one of the sagas out there 💯 great reaction 💯👍👍
Ha !!u got me with that washing machine comment
Ahaha xD
finally im excited to know that you are going to do MCU marathon!
He missed the end end credit scene am i the only one who noticed, love Welchy tho and watch more of the much they might not all be great but they do work well to tell and bring the films together for and epic climax xx
Shield was getting Hulk away from Helicarrier. If You have watched 2008 Incredible Hulk You know that in MCU Hulk is angry at last person who attacks/irritates him. So by shooting Hulk in back they knew he would go after the plane and thus leave Helicarrier alone