Fasting And Spiritual Warfare
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Today we are talking about Fasting! Specifically, how fasting affects Spiritual Warfare. We will be discussing the textual variant in Matthew 17:21, the instructions In Isaiah 58, and the angelic warfare of Daniel 9 and 10.
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Okay push back….when you fast food…eventually you won’t actually hunger. Your body releases another hormone. When you cut out food groups, you hunger the whole time. Reminds you dependence on Father. Also, let’s be careful not to be pharisacal. Also, fasting, is very important I agree.
"Fast eating" while talking about fasting, the Remnant Radio way.😊🍪🍪
Hahahaha 🤣😂
When Jesus said this kind only by prayer and fasting... Interpretation of Dan Mohler... by fasting you are denying your flesh... and that gets enough of YOU out of the equation for the spirit in you and God to operate.
Great show, thanks.
I was addicted to Diet Coke for decades but one day I went on a 21 day fast where we fasted our favorite indulgences. First 3 days were tough but I made it through and was completely set free! Been 15 years, Thank you Lord🙌🏼
There’s also what I’ve heard people call a “Fasted Lifestyle” where you eat but don’t overdo it, you may watch TV but don’t binge watch, same with all things that can be taken to excess. This restraint is done to the Lord, assisted by His Spirit. You could also call it a Spirit led life.
Personally I sense the presence of God significantly stronger when I live this way. Also it causes me to go to Him more often when anxious, bored or lonely and all I want to do is eat or shop. Still growing in this.
If you haven’t tried fasting I recommend you try it once and enjoy the huge benefits it brings.
I was actually fasting when i watched this
Lol same here, I guess I haven't technically been fasting since I was doing the Daniel "mourning". Maybe it isn't fasting but I've loved learning how I don't really need the things I always thought I needed, the self-control that's been growing in me + dependence on the Holy Spirit has been pretty sweet fruit. I wonder if there's a genuinely noticeable difference with real fasting beyond more intense hunger, if so I've gotta sign up.
I have to disagree with you about your definition of fasting and how you derived it. You say Daniel was not fasting bc the word fasting was not used. However, the word fasting was also not used in Ex 34, 32, 35 or Lev. 9 and 10. In these chapters Moses went without food or water 40 consecutive days three times. However, the word fast is never used. Therefore, according to your logic, Moses did not fast because the Bible does not use the word fast in reference to Moses. As in the Daniel passages you reference, Moses's decision to refrain from certain foods and beverages (all of them) was described but not labeled a fast. Be careful about making an argument based solely up vocabulary. Vocabulary alone is not always sufficient. Defining terms is important, but as I Tim 6 warns, arguing about the meaning of words can also be problematic. Isaiah 58 is a sobering passage about proper fasting. It extends the definition further than withholding food and water. Your arguments that people sometimes fast silly things (I.e. caviar) is not an argument that those fasts are not legitimate because they are not fasts. They are not legitimate because they demean fasting. They make a game out of it. They reduce fasting to matter of "mere externals." What legitimizes a fast is not what one denies oneself but the heart and attitude one possesses when one fasts. When Isaiah and Jesus rebuke improper fasting, neither quibble over whether the definition of fasting was externally followed. They go directly to the heart of the faster or the presence of corroborating fasts of behavior, attitude, and justice in the life of the faster. I commend to you John Piper's thorough treatment of the subject in his book A Hunger for God. Other helpful resources are Jentezen Franklin's book Fasting and Susan Gregory's resources on the Daniel fast. Experientially, I have engaged in many types of fasts: food, food and water, Daniel, social media, and other. I've never gone on a fast of any type that I didn't find beneficial. The best fast to go on at any given time is the fast the Lord calls you too. I submit to you that encouraging people to seek the Lord to include fasting into their lives regularly, often, and in a variety of means is a better path to follow than to encourage them to hold to a narrow definition. The important thing is to seek first his kingdom.
Heh, great intro with the snacks!
Exactly
I agree very much with the concept of voluntary weakness. I also would say denial of flesh. And I would say a display of desperation. David said he would not say sacrifice anything to God that cost him nothing. It s putting your money where your mouth is. Especially on the long fasts. The importunate prayer.
I think you misinterpret Isaiah 58 here. He doesn’t seem to be saying how to literally fast and what fasting from food accomplishes; he instead says more important than a day of starving is a lifestyle of charity and justice and God fearing humility. That this is true fasting in the realest sense. Very similar to the kinds of things Jesus taught about tithing… you should have focused more on this etc etc.
Thought…what if Jesus said that “prayer and fasting” because they weren’t fasting at the time, and one day they would need to know that knowledge?
I’d like to point out that Jesus fasted 40 days BEFORE BEGINNING HIS MINISTRY: He is our example. That was an act of dedication TO THE FATHER’S agenda and an example of subjugation of His own will to that of THE FATHER’S. THAT’S the reason for fasting.
The Isaiah 58 list lines up perfectly with the effect that being in ketosis has on cognitive function.
When in ketosis, assuming a fast is going well, there tends to be greater mental focus and clarity, less distractibility or competing/racing thoughts, and lower anxiety. So physical effects that logically are conducive to spiritual benefits including potentially better overall prayer/a better ability to hear from God with clarity/ better ability to make wise but maybe tough decisions etc.
Thanks for this teaching. It has really helped me. I didn’t know much about fasting. I’m on medication so I’ll just do the smoothie fast. May God continue to bless your ministry.
Another thought, maybe prayer is to ask Abba, what’s going on? What do You want me to do? How do you want me to handle this? God will know. Won’t he? 🤷🏻♀️
The "prayer and fasting" comment by Jesus is in Mark 9:29 as well. In variant manuscripts, only fasting is removed in Mark. The devil is trying to hide this and many other things in the new translations. Edit: I am glad you addressed Mark 9. Two games of telephone with the same end miscommunication seems rather suspicious to me
Prayer and fasting is great for the problem of unbelief, then casting the demon out is not an issue. That may be the point, at least something to think about.
Jesus didn't necessarily have to tell someone about the 40 day fast... the Spirit revealed things to the apostles when they wrote the gospels.
Thank you for your input on this matter. I've only just been thinking about fasting but as a 60year old and on meds I wasn't sure if I can do it, but I figure I can do at least one day. But you have really cleared up the aspects of fasting. Ta
Great episode, gentlemen! 👍🏻😃
I enjoy the chemistry between the hosts lol
I’ve been waiting for a video on this topic! Thanks y’all, very helpful
Great show again!! Thank you
That is soooo intriguing I wonder why that is!? Its interesting how I would ALWAYS SAY that the many other versions are watered down but for a verse to be removed such as this one that was pver looked because someone OBVIIUSLY DOESNT want people possibly praying and fasting for the demons to be removed from someone hmmm... Only my thoughts...
I looked iy up in a few of my Bibles and sure enough that is the case... Sad when the Word says not to add or take away from His Word Revelation 22:18-19
That righteous Yapp on that Schuyler... ✝️
This thought came to me and so here's the question/thought: They couldn't achieve the task casting the demon out of the child because of an apparent lack of prayer and fasting. (Here was my thought) Jesus had not yet taken back all authority. Our Lord had not yet died, been buried and rose again. And they had not yet received the Holy Spirit like they would have "post" resurrection. Surely the difference lies within these two different sequences in time. Right?
I'm with Josh on this one. Daniel knows what fasting is and uses the term in chapter 9, yet does not in chapter 10. Why? Maybe because he knew it wasn't a fast.
Agreed
Jesus was driven into the wilderness to fast. The situation with the bridegroom being with us, and spiritual warfare against demonic possession or oppression, are two completely different things.
The mourning woman Josh mentioned... didn't her husband speak to her about her refusal to eat? I'd like to hear more about fasting vs mourning.
great episode!
What is to debate?
"..So when they had appointed elders in every church, and prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord in whom they had believed..." (Acts 14:23)
Not going to allow you guys to influence my understanding of whether or not we should fast and pray.
The dude on the left needs to slow down a little bit.
Yes
@In the Wilderness of Be'er Sheva I’m just a southerner. Lol
Also, today we know fasting is beneficial for someone that has epilepsy so there might have been a connection there as well.
😱 are there any specific sites that reference this biblically you would recommend. This has been on my mind the past week and then this video comes up and I read your comment. 🙌🏼😊
@@KKP- @KKP hey there! In all honesty I've put that comment as an observation that I've picked up in online circles and it seemed as there might be a connection there so I've put it up as food for thought.
That said, biblically; as in what the text is saying - it makes little sense since after Jesus told the disciples that this kind goes out by fasting and prayer, he continued to cast it out and the boy got free.
In that sense, it was not a receipe for a boy but advice for the men. That said, the verse (Matthew 17:21) is not there in most translations.
If i post a link yt deletes a comment. Google Matthew 17:21 neverthirsty
In that article you will also find a link for a study of that event.
@@betrion7 thank you very much for the reply. I have experienced some major seizures and I saw an aura and demon face trying to come “through” . There was no doubt and the sense of evil was palpable afterwards. I have given my life to Jesus and he is guiding me along with my brothers and sisters in Christ. Thank you again 🙌🏼😊
Drats, I missed the show where I get t totally confuse everyone and make them all mad. Of course I'd hold my cards as close to my chest as possible and just play it neutral, but...
Remnant.. the most blessed part is the disagreement you two hosts have over the Daniel fast... that you men of Faith can disagree and still discuss through it... that's Christ like... though I agree with Josh unfortunately! God bless you and yours
God bless you guys!
In this video you debate whether fasting may refer to other things besides food or not. I recently read what Jesus said about marriage that the man “shall hold fast to his wife” Matt 19:5. In other words he is forsaking or abstaining from all others. I think maybe all faithfulness inherently includes some form of fasting, but not necessarily food.
Oatmeal raisin. No chocolate chip. I don’t like cookies really though. But the texture of oatmeal raisin I enjoy. 🤷🏼♀️
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I have been daily 18:6 intermittent fasting for the last 19 months, and am just now starting to delve into longer fasts. My issue is still having to cook dinner for my family while fasting. Being men/dads, do you still engage in meal preparation for your family when on your longer fasts? Do your wives also participate in longer fasts? Kids/family definitely adds an element of challenge!
Ps I realize IF isn’t intentionally spiritually beneficial, but I have to say that I believe God has still used it (especially those first few months of the pandemic!) and it is for that reason I wish to more intentionally lean into periods of longer fasts/prayer.
I ask about meals because men generally aren’t the ones who primarily cook for the family, and was curious about whether or not you think having to cook dinner every night would make longer fasts more difficult.
Sometimes I fast on Friday, which is sabbath prep day, and quite often I kick myself for tasting what I'm cooking for sabbath.... I now try to fast on Tuesdays and Thursdays since I realized that temptation can be overwhelming.
I always have to have my kids test my rice/pasta for doneness as I have caught myself doing so automatically without thinking! Not a problem for spiritual fasting because it’s more about the mindset/heart posture, but a couple noodles will physically break a fast!
@@taratags4499 let your husband Cook when you're spiritual fasting so You can pray. Or make portions in advantage so You only have to heat it up for the family?
With regard to the Scriptures that you do not seem to believe are in the autographs, which we don't have, or do not know where they are.
"And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen." (John 21:25)
Wait- best cookie? If I had a choice- White Chocolate Chip with Macadamian Nuts. Or Double Stuft Oreos if you wanna get really fake.
Why all the talk about food??
Where did jesus say, "This kind comes out by prayer or prayer and fasting?" I only find prayer and fasting!
What would you guys say is are like the best 3 books on fasting?
Atomic Power with God through Prayer and Fasting by Franklin Hall is so good! Very short, very impactful. Jentezen Franklin has a great book on fasting. And The Jesus Fast by Lou Engle, are my top 3 that I've read on fasting. :)
I just do breakfast.😢
Actually in kjv it does state in Mark 9:29 IT DOES STATE PRAYER AND FASTING false comment...
With keto and carnivore you can have very low blood sugar and be fine.
What kind of Bible did Josh have? 😂
Edit - Oh , saw it, it’s a Schuyler. Lovely.
I think fasting is denying the flesh, I turn you give God more room to help you.
I agree that Daniel was not fasting
"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God..."
So when you guys put God's word under scrutiny, by saying that some passages were not in the Original text, passages that have been widely accepted for centuries, which do not contradict the word of God or His character, you put God's Word in question.
What is the dadake? Or what is the proper spelling?
chocolate Chip....... Or Cowboy Cookies.....
Chocolate chip
Why would ANYONE eat raisins on purpose. 🤢🤢
Daniel 10 does not say anything about Gabriel 🤔
Your doctor doesn’t understand ketosis. Were your blood ketones measured? I bet not. When in ketosis, blood sugar is irrelevant. Your body is operating on ketones. On a fast, low blood sugar would be a concern for someone who hasn’t transitioned into ketosis because their body is still running on glucose.
One reason that you may not look good on a fast is you’re burning fat. What many people don’t know is that your body will store toxins in fat. When you burn the fat, the toxins are released back into your blood stream.
During a fast, your body cleans out the cells too. Also, gets rid of bad proteins - called autophagy.
You can use keto sticks to see if you’re in ketosis. Meters also exist to measure it. Some blood sugar meters (for diabetics) will also measure ketones.
The only way to break a fast is with another fast.
I am doing the Daniel fast right now. Lol. Spiritual warefarw is brutal
Warefarw??
Then you need to get a translation that is more reliable. The Alexandrian text was known for corruption.
Chocolate with walnuts, imo
Like you guys but that was annoying.
The eating? It made me laugh and brought me a bit of joy and a smile... I thought it was clever. To each their own! 🤷
Chocolate Chip.
Chocolate chip!!!
Pretty sure oatmeal raisin is the Antichrist’s cookie of choice. 🤢😆
Isn't 31st of October a Biblical fast?
Maybe there's a fast in more liturgical churches- Orhtodox, Lutheran, Catholic- on that day, as those denominations (and some others) have a lot of holy days not necessarily in the bible directly. October 31t is "reformation Day" the deemed "start" day of the reformation. And, of course, the month of "October" didn't exist in bible times and culture anyway, lol.
@@VeryBasicBible Thanks for the response.
The fast is found in Nehemiah 9:1On the twenty-fourth day of the same month, the Israelites gathered together, fasting and wearing sackcloth, with dust on their heads. 2Those of Israelite descent separated themselves from all the foreigners, and they stood and confessed their sins and the iniquities of their fathers. 3While they stood in their places, they read from the Book of the Law of the LORD their God for a quarter of the day, and they spent another quarter of the day in confession and worship of the LORD their God.
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I don't recall this specific fast being said, in the bible, to be repeated. So maybe it's just a "traditional" fast.
And if it's a traditional fast, I wonder about the date? Some fasts/feasts/holy days supposedly coincide with the exact ancient date, some are approximations, some are "observed" dates, etc.
For some reason I can't see my original reply, hm. But those are the reasons why I acted unsure of a fast that day.
Okay this intro was wayyyyy out of pocket. 😂
Stay in the kjv all the others are watered down and taking scripture out
I would watch your channel. But the eating is so unprofessional. It's hard to take you bothe serious.
What is wrong with literally fasting? You guys open this video with a mockery of what it is to fast and pray.
There is nothing wrong with denying the flesh in order to consecrate ourselves before God. Jesus Himself did it and taught it. Do you not think that He meant and did what He said, and yet He is God incarnate? He also has complete power and authority over ever spirit, in heaven and in earth.
You use as your premise, textual criticism, and put God's Word in question.
I'm familiar with the arguments, and most of what I hear has no validity, and the newer translations, the NLT, the NIV, tamper with God's Word, taking out part of John 8:1-11...
It's pitiful that we have allowed this to happen.
God's Word has power, and Jesus said, not one י or . will disappear from God's Word, until it is all fulfilled.
I would also suggest you research Panin who did a mathematical study of the Hebrew text and the Greek text, all inclusive of the verses you guys leave out at the end of Mark 16.
What is pathetic is that the church and believers will easily take your word instead of studying for themselves.
I have heard scholars attack the KJV, while they will gulp down Shakespeare.
Curious if you watched the full episode because we are in support of fasting and prayer.
Never eat while mic-ed up again. This is unbearable