I LOVE this discussion with Sam!! Great learning. Thanks! I keep wanting to tell Christians to be emboldened in the area of spiritual warfare too. I very much relate to this. “Fight the good fight of faith.” 1 Timothy 6:12 🔥♥️🔥
True ! I felt so powerful when I was demonized , until I was in the middle of suicide ready to kill myself very far away from God , I wasn’t looking for God at all I was looking to die and God showed up at that very moment he found me ! He stepped it and saved me he showed me his love forgiveness power and mercy! In my desperation searching I was blessed to find a church that had a Deliverance Ministry it took 3 sessions of prayer and repentance to God and I was set free ! I was baptized in water and in the Spirit ...Iam no longer a slave to Satan and his dominions ! I’ve been set free ! Free indeed ! Chains are broken !! IAm a new creation ! To God be the Glory ! So be it
deliverance is in Christ only and demons are impures spirits who cannot be in us if we are IN Christ. Impures spirits also refer to falses doctrines,the devil is a liar till the beginning.
Just thought of the analogy of a policeman. Someone who just newly joined the police force has the same amount of authority to arrest a criminal as a police officer who has been serving for a year or two. This authority was given to them by the government. However, the new police officer may not be as effective in identifying a suspicious person, or as bold in confronting and arresting him as compared to the senior officer. Do both have the same authority? Yes. Does the authority come from the same source? Yes. But one has far more knowledge and experience in exercising that authority!
I'm so relieved to see that there are actually Christians out there who are not afraid to discuss the reality of what is out there in the world. It amazes me that while we serve a God who is a Spirit, many either do not believe in demons/negative spirits, or they are simply to afraid to consider them and/or talk about them. This was a truly enlightening conversation, and I look forward to reading Dr. Storm's books, and I plan on looking up more videos from him. I hope Remnant Radio will have him back again soon! Thank you!
Sam’s biblical rebuttal to the “can’t have a demon and the Holy Spirit in the same place” line of thinking was fantastic. I wish I had heard that a couple of years back when I was deeply hurting. Mad respect to Sam for demonstrating high-level biblical knowledge and also a tender pastoral/fatherly heart. This is both liberating and sobering. Liberating from the confusion of not knowing why certain parts of my mind/soul were deeply troubled (potential demonic oppression as I’ve come to find out). Sobering in that I must be watchful of my life and any areas where I may give a “foothold” to the enemy. I’m not impenetrable and should walk thoughtfully and humbly. Also, it felt kinda like an unexpected crossover episode when he mentioned he used to minister with Mike Bickle. That’s dope!
Yes, he made an excellent point, and it would've been helpful in my life as well years ago. I fell into a deep depression and even suicidal thoughts as a born-again Christian minister, and in large part it was due to my ignorance of the enemy's ways. I thank God for His grace, mercy, and power because He brought me through to victory! I now recognize when the enemy comes with those old thoughts, and I give him no place, and God has used me to help others who have been oppressed by the same. All glory to Jesus!
Sam Storms is great! If this is anyone’s first time hearing the warfare worldview (it’s unfortunately not talked about much) then I would suggest Derek Prince, Frank Hammond and Don Dickerman as well. This is a worthwhile study that will change your entire perception of the world
Derek Prince was my mainstay as a new believer and he was of tremendous help to me as I went to seances with my mom and not church. I needed strong teaching and instruction and Derek Prince, Lester Summerall and those who understood Spiritual Warfare were huge helps to me and I learned how to maintain my deliverance little by little so the beasts of the field didn’t overcome me, Exodus 23:29 and today those who understand this realm in Truth are my choice til this day Deliverance is only one part of this Maintenance is equally as important and that’s not spoken of as much as deliverance. Its important that people in ministry must commit themselves to the individual on the long term basis how Jackie Pulinger speaks of..that’s what broken, fragmented, misunderstood, people need more than anything.
Greetings all, I am a Christian that is suffering greatly with what I believe to be a unique kind of spiritual warfare and demonic oppression. Despite doing all I can to rid myself of this all encompassing ordeal I feel I am still not that much further on in this battle. I am sincerely asking anyone that reads this who can help me or knows of anyone that can help to contact me so we can talk about this. I would be extremely grateful for this and will appreciate greatly any support you can provide. I cannot do anymore to remedy this oppression. Thankyou, and God bless you all 🙏
He’s humble and produces that humility we all need to strive to have when we’re talking about our beliefs and at the same time respecting what others believe. We only have a little scripture for a lot of theology. It’s fun to go down these rabbit holes at the same time respecting others.
I love your channel guys, it's great to see that you invite Christians of other denominations and we can agree to disagree on some things but still be brothers and sisters in Christ. Also the topic of spiritual warfare is so important. Thanks again. God bless you
Amen, because I believe the one has more of the belief Christians can’t have demons, or he did on episodes years back if I’m not mistaken so I very much appreciate the shows w opposite views!
LOVE this show so very much. Thank you for your show and how your love for Jesus, love for truth, and love for intelligent discussion of biblical topics is evident. Be blessed by God Almighty. ☺️✝️❤️
I like what dr. Heiser said about geographically assigned principalities, which differs from dr. Sam. The difference is that the principalities are not assigned by satan but by God. They are not demons of some particular sin but spirits assigned to rule over nations as stewards under God’s authority. This goes against everything we have learned in western Christianity but dr. Heiser goes into it in his book The Unseen Realm. Reading it now. So so good and biblically sound. It is a scholarly work and not any kind of fluff goofiness. It is worth every penny.
If you believe and ask boldly for his help he will cast them away. My daughter can see them and when we found God and Jesus they left as soon as we used his name. People don’t believe because they can’t see but we have been free ever since.
Sometimes (as Christians) we need to "tank up" on the Bible. Jesus is the Light of the world. Light can't have any fellowship with darkness. I would try to concentrate on Scripture more than thinking about the devil. God hasn't given us the spirit of fear, but "power, 💕 love, and a sound mind." Also we need to: "Be strong in the Lord and in the Power of His Might." (Ephesians 6:10) and to put on the whole armour of God. (See Ephesians 6:10 up to the end of the Chapter) Jesus Christ conquered Satan when He died on the Cross. Jesus make a show of Satan "openly." He is really a defeated for....
Great conversation! As Christians we shouldn't become demon hunters where we look for them, but we should know our authority and how to deal with the demonic when it rears its ugly head. Thanks so much for doing this interview guys!
I also think we should try to cast demons out of "the heavenlies or heavenly places." If we do that, they will come to 🌎 earth and try to mess with us. I know this from experience. I will never even think about casting Satan out of the "heavenlies" again. This teaching was really popular in the 1990s and it caused a lot of problems. I could talk about a few of those things later if anybody wants to know. Jesus Christ is Lord....🎁❤️🙏
Love your channel guys and love Dr. Storms. My question is where do we have have peace and assurance if we don’t think there’s a difference between possession and oppression? How much of our struggles do we blame on the enemy vs. just living in a fallen world. I think it can be dangerous when we fixate too much on making sure every single sin is confessed and if not, you might get demonized. I just don’t see how that teaching produces peace. I hope that makes sense.
Satan is under our feet. If Satan tries to bother me, I tell him to get lost. I use the Word of God and the Power, Name, and the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit....
As someone who struggles with a chronic illness and thus has really wrestled with this issue of healing, I think it's really critical to recognize that God TOLD PAUL that He wasn't going to remove that thorn in the flesh (whatever the "thorn" actually was). He may not have removed the thorn, but He did give Paul a clear ANSWER. So I think it's reasonable to assume that we should keep pressing in, keep asking, UNLESS AND UNTIL God specifically TELLS us the answer is no.
I also have had physiological reactions. Not so much regarding the presence of evil powers in a place, but when I hear a teaching that is "off" I'll often get a knot in my stomach that prompts me to dig and investigate further if what the person is saying is accurate scripturally.
I would suggest our confusion about terms arises because today we use the word “possess” differently than they did centuries ago when the King James Bible was produced. In older English, saying someone was “possessed of demons” simply meant that he had demons. In the same way, it was once to common to say that a man was “possessed of great wealth,” or that a woman was “possessed of great beauty.” But this has now become archaic. As a result, we’ve developed some confusion about what our English Bibles are saying about demons.
I am new to the gifts of the Spirit, even though I have been saved for 30 years. I prayed to be baptized by Jesus in the Spirit, and I began speaking new tongues. I see visions and interpretations. I have cast out demons twice in just a few months of being filled with the Spirit. It came instinctively from the Spirit through tongues. I also have discernment of spirits, and, I too, FEEL it. I also feel like I could throw up, but not a physical vomiting. Something what I say is like a spirtual vomiting.
I heard a rest message on Jesus seeing Satan falling like lightning and it was that Jesus was there in Heaven when God cast him out and that Gods power was so strong that it wasn’t even a struggle. It was just over.
As a son of the most high God, you were given spiritual senses to see what kind of bondage this woman was in. :) Physical manifestations uncover the enemy and put him at risk in the presence of a believer who knows how to use his or her sword and authority in Christ!
Years ago when the concept of "pleading the blood" was first given to me, I had a woman that claimed to be a witch came to mothers home with a nephew. Not wanting a physical argument I chose to just be quiet but did to myself under my breath "Plead the Blood". After maybe 3 minutes this lady make a loud gurgling sound in a very deep voice saying "JESUS" as she ran out of the house leaving in her car? WITH ALL THESE PARADES etc. going on, I wonder if a few dozen believers lined up on their routes might stir a response opening up these folks to a need in their lives. No confrontation just a quiet "pleading of the Blood" expressing Christ's authority.
I can attest to having been demonized. I was a new believer and newly baptized in the Holy Ghost. After leaving church one night I was attacked but I didn't understand it then. When we got home we were going to read the bible as a family but I began to feel anxious and angry and I couldn't read. I went to my room where I slandered God, wanted to be left alone, couldn't read my bible, couldn't focus, settle myself or pray. The next day my body ached as if I'd had the flu. That night I heard a siren in the distance, I believed it was on the highway near us, and at that moment i felt relief. The next day we learned that a man on the highway near us made a choice to end his life in his car the night before. I knew that I knew that I knew at that I had experienced an attack and this demonic spirit went to where this man was. This happened years ago but looking back now I believe God has used this to prepare me. In the past few weeks God, through His Holy Spirit, has placed in my spirit what my mind could not understand; Ephesians 6:12. This changes my thinking regarding others and how I view people.
Spirtual warefare in my personal experience is like a general in command of an army. it may take many spiritual fights with Demons before they begin to recognize as any general on the opposite side would see you as someone to be reckon with. I am speaking of your anointing as a god believer.
Morning Christian family, if anyone wants to know where in the bible satan transforms in a beam of light, which was mentioned in this video, its in 2 Corinthians 11:14, 🙏. Its everywhere in the world even in your own community. You may think that something or someone is good when it really isn't 🤔. Just be careful in your dealings with people or certain situations etc. This is a really good learning video,❤
You guys need to look up Steve Gregg. He's another Sam Storm. A bit less charismatic, but wonderful in doctrine and a really likable person. Also Amil, but Armenianist. Argues like a gentleman and is pretty a pretty sharp cookie.
Definitely pray to Yahweh about your Egyptian eye image, which is a symbol representing a god of the new age (a demon looking for worship). You want spiritual discernment for spiritual warfare? Ask God for wisdom, for He gives without finding fault. May Jesus Christ bless you in your walk.
Very good program. It was actually confirmation to some of the stuff I explained to a Christian brother of mine. I appreciate you guys and how you all address topics in a fair and balanced way. God bless you all.
If there's a chance that God allows satan's affliction (thorn, sifting) on God's children, for His glory and our growth, who are we to think we should be rebuking and casting that out. And how would we ever be successful in doing so without His "blessing".
LIVE by Every Word that Proceeds out of the mouth of God , not everything that comes to Your mind ,,,,, All will be taught by God ,,, taught here is sound down into the ears ,,, Who are these that can fly ?
Man, we definitely need more topos (that's in my current vocabulary list for class woo!) places where we teach train in this topic. It reminds me of one of the classes in Hogwarts the defense against the Dark Arts class. This is not just fun fiction but real life! Hear we can also learn from the "global south" where there's more acceptance on this issue. Also there's this fallacy that this only happens abroad. Far from the truth! As Dr. Storms attest it is occurring right here in the USA.
I had something out of hell haunting me for about 30 years. A set of security camaras made it leave me alone, I guess it doesnt like getting filmed. Good ridance, the last time it almost choked me to death.
Maybe here is someone who can answer thisquestion i have: In Daniel 10 an angel is holdup by an other angel: "...Daniel, heaven has heard your prayers, and I have come to answer your prayers, but I was slowed down for 21 days by the prince of Persia." This prince of Persia is mentioned again in verse 20. "Then he said, “Do you know why I have come to you? But now I will return to fight against the prince of Persia; and when I go out, behold, the prince of Greece will come." What can we tell about what this holding up is about... when i have a dispute with someone he can hold me by force or even kill me. What is there in the heavens to slow somebody down? Or even fight with, they can not be killed, or can they? What are we (or angels) fighting with? Can it have something to do with patience, or Love or whatever we are learning here being a Christian on this earth..... The Bible does not tell it but maybe logic can or whatever...
At around 107 min you talked about Paul’s thorn in the flesh. It states clearly that it was a tormenting demon spirit that would not leave. This was so Paul would not feel invulnerable so he could mature further. The thorn in the flesh means a weakness, for example the addiction to coffee or chocolate that’s fleshy weakness. Maybe it was tormenting visions of past sins that would not leave. The scripture never mentioned sickness. We have a promise to be free from sickness in many scriptures. 1 Peter 2:24 NLT [24] He personally carried our sins in his body on the cross so that we can be dead to sin and live for what is right. By his wounds you are healed. Secondly endurance comes from trials. James 1:2-4 NKJV [2] My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, [3] knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. [4] But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
1 Peter 2:24 quoted from Isaiah 53 is talking about healing of our disrupted relationship with God. Nothing to do with physical healing. Often misquoted.
@@varghj2006agreed. it's very clear, it's not of physical ailments. This is grossly misquoted to suit an agenda. These people with this misconception should tell people of faith who suffer with diseases such as cancer this nonsense. God can and does heal, but it's not a given.
I have a great story to tell about this. Believe me, the demons know your name if you are truly in Christ. A demon knew my friends name and called them by name in a city they visited. Both their names together. Then stared at them when previously the woman was acting like a mentally ill homeless woman with no eye contact...until she called their names and they turned to look at her and she stared them down...scared my brothers so mucn they didnt know how to react...just ran to the nearest starbucks just to sit and reflect. They were initially in a hurry to get back to their car cause the parking meter was soon to expire. Forgot all about that!!
Is there a fine line of walking in our authority/identity in Christ and creating ministry that is only based on casting out demons, exorcisms etc? I’ve seen a few people say they are a Christian and they’re a demonologist and they study demons.
There's nothing wrong with that. It's much better to know your enemy rather then just pretending the enemy isn't there. This is a spiritual battlefield
The Watch Word in the church is " Ignorance is Bliss " they read the part about being responsible for what they know and stuck their head back into the sand . Ignorance is Bliss !
FEAR is the beginning of EVERYTHING. Fear of ANYTHING but God is sin and opens an avenue of attack. BUT, you MUST follow the law as closely as possible... especially with regards to judging God's use of evil to punish someone - because then you are an accuser.
How does one go about including this type of teaching/practice in an evangelical church that has no experience but wants to learn and practice? Same with spiritual gifts and the miraculous? I'm curious about the hosts' and how they've incorporated this stuff in their respective churches. Is it a matter of starting a small group? Starting a ministry within the church? Don't know if that's something that's commonly done but maybe a future video idea? Just something I'm curious about
Don't worry about this guys teaching, he complicates life for you. If you listen closely he often makes up stuff that "sounds" Christian but is of another spirit. Preach the Gospel, that is where the POWER is. I use to be involved in spiritual warfare groups for 30 years and thought i knew what i was doing. This guys teaches the same stupid stuff i once believed. I cant believe how deceived i was. Praying is also powerful but we have no authority given to us personally. Let God do the spiritual stuff as he knows every single detail while we pray to God for HIM to do his work for his glory. While we preach the Gospel and teach repentance. Our job is simple and we ALL can do it right from the time we are born again. This guy makes it a complicated mess that no one ever understands. It is all based upon his "feelings and experiences" then he adds scripture to justify his feelings that can not be tested. He IS being extra Biblical, he adds to scripture and he takes away from scripture. He is deceiving many and sadly i once taught the same.
@@jake3510001 i think he was right on with scripture. I think the bible is pretty clear about the authority we have. Of course it's not us ourselves doing it. We are ambassadors and God does it through us. I have also felt impressions when there is dark stuff around. It is definitely a real thing. It is so prevalent in the world, but in America it's subtle because discernment is a growth area here. I like your reminder though that this is his work for his glory, very important to remember when engaging with this stuff
@@erickdiaz6152 Discernment? What is discernment? Hearing imaginary voices in your head and just maybe it might have been God if you think hard enough, jump through hoops, tune into some mysterious wave length? All of which are not biblical. Or do we go to the very word of God, The Bible is Gods prophetic word. It is verifiable, testable and equips a believer for everything. If you are imagining God is speaking to you giving extra Biblical revelations that can not be tested how would you know it is God or the devil? Never forget the devil comes as an angel of light, he appears as Christ. What are you going to do when you find out you were deceived because you trusted strange voices in your head? Remember many will follow another spirit to suit their sensualities. Scripture didnt warn us so much about the church being deceived. If you are a true born again believer, you have nothing to worry about when it comes to "Dark stuff". You are obedient to Gods word yeah? That's it then. You defeated the devil because of your obedience. No special chants and incantations, no religious Hoohaa. Pretty simple. not much to remember. Anyone can do it. But wait, if you are talking to someone with a demon do you think you really have power over it? Even if you thought you did how do you really actually know it is not playing games with you? You dont know. Thats how they want you to think, they deceive and you have no idea what they are thinking. So dont bother trying. Preach the word, tell people they need to repent and turn from their wickedness and put their trust in God, Once they are born again the devil can not EVER touch them whilst they are obedient to their father. Simple, no drama, no 10 point plans, no books to read about spiritual warfare. You be obedient (Resist evil) the devil will flee, he has no choice. This way you focus on preaching the gospel, discipling people so that the yare not led into false doctrines like this guy teaches, and serving people with love. Let God deal with all the spiritual stuff we cant see, he knows what is going on you dont.
@@jake3510001 I see. Thanks for clarifying your position. I believe we can hear from God and the way you test it is by comparing it to the Word. If it goes against the Word, then it's not God. The Word is our anchor. Not worth arguing lol I am sure of my salvation, and I am also sure in the fact that I can receive the Holy Spirit's guiding when the bible does not specifically speak to my circumstances. I would just encourage you to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Yes, there are some wack-os out there with false deliverance ministries, and sounds like you had a bad experience, but that doesn't mean that demon deliverance at the hand of Christians, empowered by God is not real. Those are all my thoughts and that's all I'll say. These youtube discussions get so tiring sometimes haha and I don't have the time for it. God Bless you and thanks for your exhortation to preach the word and repentance 👐
@@erickdiaz6152 I am not doubting if you are saved but i advise take advice from people who challenge you in areas you never been challenged. Most do not. Most follow after myths and delusions seeking signs and wonders. Jesus tells us what the Holy spirits role is and how it functions, your version is like mine once was but it is not scripturally accurate. No i didn't have a bad experience. I enjoyed what i had until everything began to contradict itself. Scripture never contradicts itself and the Holy spirit is NEVER in error. As i researched contradictions i learnt scripture interprets scripture thus never contradicting itself but this made me see how i was deceived by a false gospel. Now i see far more power in the gospel than ever before. I can assure you know with 100% accuracy that you have no idea if God is speaking to you. You only hope he does, It is how you were taught to think. So was i. I relied upon hearing from God but even that became inconsistent and as the years went by it became a struggle to keep some semblance or logic. It was like the scales fell from my eyes and i could see another power far greater then the pathetic one i had been living for so many years. Since then i had to battle over coming the brainwashing i had lived. You do not hear voices from God and if you do you can never prove it is truly God to me nor yourself. You have no way to prove it. And like you said, if it lines up with scripture never forget the devil uses scripture. He can suck you into all manner of false teachings when you leave the bounds of scripture. And if you understand how the spirit of God works no you do not need "special revelations" That is the heresy of Gnosticism. There is mountains of false teaching that sounds biblical. We were warned over and over again about it but no one truly tests anything. Some people have discernment as a gift but not many listen becasue they are deceived by Cleverley designed myths. Many Christians do not understand scripture but claim they hear from God. I hear from God, i hear his powerful authorities voice every time i read scripture. it is perfect, it is testable and it is verifiable. Any voices in your head is adding to scripture, it is like you are in the dark, outside, blind folded with people all around you with night vision. They can see perfectly but you are searching for God outside of his Holy prophetic word. You are not satisfied that the word is enough so you need more, more , more. It becomes a drug and you can never get enough, you never quite make it. Today i have complete confidence in Gods power, i have all the faith he gave me to achieve his will. I am victorious in all things because of Christ and i dont need to beat the devil again and again and again just to have him back again. Who keeps letting these demons out after they been bound? It is nonsense.
The Bible is specifically clear that a born-again holy spirit sealed Believer cannot be possessed by demons they can merely be oppressed... every person who needed Deliverance in the scriptures were lost unbelievers that were Bound by demons not one instance ever of a saved believer having a demon casted out of them so if you are a professing Believer and people are casting demons out of you then you are still lost and need to be born again by placing your faith in the person and finished work of Christ Alone
Absolutely false statement.I was born again and fell into a lifestyle of sin which opened doors to demons.I was delivered years later from demonic oppression.I was also healed from seizures due to a demonic spirit. You give ground to the enemy and he takes it.
I agree with you. When someone is saved, the Holy Spirit is living inside of them. They belong to Jesus and Jesus is not going to share. If someone has the Holy Spirit living inside of them, a demon cannot enter them and have control.
Shalom! Being born again mean that you are a new creature who has hearkened unto The Most High God and has not only come out of everything that is not of God according to: 2 Corinthians 6:17 [17]Wherefore come out from among them, and bee yee separate, saieth the Lord, and touch not the vncleane thing, and I will receiue you, Never again can you have fellowship with things which are contrary to the Almighty God: 2 Corinthians 6:14-16. The Almighty God Himself has received you and now you are His/her child and He is your Father. The word of God is so clear. There is no way our Heavenly Father can share the same platform with demons. In the Old Testament the presence of the Ark of the Almighty God brought Dagon to its knees more than once: 1 Samuel 5:1-4 [1]And the Philistines tooke the Arke of God, and brought it from Ebenezer vnto Ashdod. [2]When the Philistines tooke the Arke of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon, and set it by Dagon. [3]¶ And when they of Ashdod arose earely on the morrow, behold, Dagon was fallen vpon his face to the earth, before the Arke of the Lord: and they tooke Dagon, and set him in his place againe. [4]And when they arose earely on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon was fallen vpon his face to the ground, before the Arke of the Lord: and the head of Dagon, and both the palmes of his hands were cut off vpon the threshold, only the stumpe of Dagon was left to him. [14]Be ye not vnequally yoked together with vnbeleeuers: for what fellowship hath righteousnesse with vnrighteousnesse? and what communion hath light with darknesse? [15]And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that beleeueth, with an infidel? [16]And what agreement hath the Temple of God with idoles? for ye are the Temple of the liuing God, as God hath saide, I will dwell in them, and walke in them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. AMEN. Blessings.
People forget we are a sinful flesh. Too many blame demons when in reality they need to resist the devil and he will flee. I'm totally with you on this.. There are no teachings on how to cast out demons in saved people in the Bible.. it has become such a big production, and commonplace practice... You would think that the writers in the Bible would have touched on it specifically.
Another good argument for Christians being demonized, in my view, would be in Galatians three, where Paul asks the Galatians, who has bewitched you, that you should not obey the truth… Also, in one Corinthians 12, evidently people were speaking things under the inspiration of demonic spirit, in verses 1:3. You also have passages like Ephesians 4:27, James 4:7, one Peter 5:8 that would seem to give credence to this idea. This is in addition to places like Luke 13, when the spirit of infirmity was cast out of the daughter of Abraham. Interestingly enough, Jesus did most of his delivering from demons, at least a lot of it in the synagogues. Love, Sam, storms, and his stand for the word and spirit.
Except that in Galatians Paul goes on to say that he could wish the false teachers 'cut themselves off' referring to circumcision, so that clearly is talking about false teachers.
One comment on the reference from 2 Corinthians 12 and Paul's thorn...it was demonic and it was infirming him. However, the Lord's admonition to Paul was not "sorry Paul my grace/mercy is enough", which seems to leave Paul struggling with no apparent resolution. That is an assumed conclusion but wrong, he's not just saying tough it out Paul. The correction is this: "Paul, my Grace is enabling you and empowering (GUYS, that is what 'Grace' is....the equipping of the Holy Ghost you didn't have until it was supernaturally imparted) you which is enough to deliver you. Jesus is letting him know, You have an abundance of my anointing to beat this down, and out, and off of you, no matter what it is." Paul's access to the grace was through his submission to the power of the word from the Lord (Eph. 2:8, a protracted application for this situation) and victory was inevitable for him if he could continue to press toward that breakthrough. But that's my 2 cents
@@tomtemple69 When discussing the works of the enemy, the question of origins is useful. The disembodied spirits theory makes sense to me because demons used to have vessels, and now they seek to enter people to experience it again.
If you're a believer and wondering if you are demonized in a particular area, how do you know if it just requires repentance on your part or deliverance?
I did and do both. Repent often. Did self deliverance via Derek Prince book and also deliverance with a Deliverance minister. I had been in new age etc so I think I needed the deliverance. Deliverance can happen through reading and studying the scriptures also.
Great question Tucker. First, I would say, simply, ask the Lord. 1 Cor. 12 mentions discernment of spirits. Even if someone doesn't have that gift, I think if someone is praying about themselves on this matter, God will mercifully reveal it. Second, I would say that if you've had unforgiveness in your life for a long time, there's a solid chance of demonization (Eph. 4:26-27). Another example would be unrepentant sin, which caused Saul to be demonized (1 Sam. 18:9-10). That's not to suggest that all unrepentant sin leads to demonization, every time. I'm just saying that it leaves a "hole in our armor" as I like to say (Eph. 6:10-18). It leaves us vulnerable. Last, if you find yourself returning to the same unholy patterns with ferocious repetition, that can be evidence that it's more than just your flesh manipulating these patterns. It could be spiritual. Hope that helps!
@@michaelrowntree2005 It does, thank you. I guess it would help to find someone trustworthy to pray for me in this area. Not easy to find with all the craziness in the WOF movement.
Search up Pigs in the Parlor by Frank Hammond on RUclips. It’s a 5 part series that is led by one of the best deliverance ministers in recent times and explains demons and includes deliverance at the end of a few of the videos. Definitely worth the watch. Completely changed my life
Have you all had Jon Mark Ruthven on a show? If not I think he would be good to have. He has written a book addressing Warfield's cessationist teachings and a book called What's Wrong with Protestant Theology.
How do we know the difference between a person operating in the demonic or just a person being a jerk? I’ve never had good discernment. I’ve had dreams of the demonic in my life but that’s it and they never make sense.
Dreams of the demonic are just that: dreams Don't get your theology or life decisions or ways of thinking from a dream I have the most ridiculous wacky dreams all the time, what do they mean? It means I have a very active imagination
Back to the Basics ? When you are born again the demons that you had are cast out by the presence of the Holy Spirit in you . Now on the outside talking trash to you , familiar spirits . The carnal mind , full of worldly spiritual strongholds is a project that you take on under the instructions of the Holy Spirit. 2 Cor. 7-1 ,, cleans self ,,, 2 Cor. 10-3,5 , You Do it ,,,,,, Spirit of man Spirit - Born dead Soul - Carnal Mind Body - Beast ( demon-strator ) Born again Spirit - New Creation Gal. 4-1 Soul - Mind of Christ Body - Remnant - Full head of grain A double minded person is unstable in all of Their Ways ! Until YOU delete the carnal mind and upload the Mind of Christ ,,, YOU are unstable ,,,,,,,,
Opinion, How do you expect us to undertand spiritual warfare If you don't even talk about physical earthly warfare?! I suggest it is a Christ-like teaching methodology to take a biblical principle from Jn 3:12. It is helpful to compare and contrast with the familiar experiences to grasp the unfamiliar one! After all, this is the purpose of the gift of teaching for!
John Sanford argues from the pronouns Luke's version of the demoniac that Jesus was not asking for the demon's name. He was asking the man his name and the demon interrupted. Luke refers to the demon as 'it' and the man as 'he' or 'him'. They conclude that, with no examples of Jesus asking for a demon's name, we shouldn't do it either. Thoughts?
Could it be that Jesus preached to those in prison is ‘Since before He came There was No savior and after the cross He preached to those held in captivity and on that day hell was emptied and the only ones there today are those who are there after The Cross. I don’t believe anyone there refused What Jesus preached and I don’t believe He didn’t give them All a chance to get out. I’m not a scholar But a follower since 1978 and that makes the most sense to me even after Dr Storms explanation.
This Formulation God's inspired identification and unification on this is happening before your eyes in genesis especially after David through Solomon on through judges by the time of Jesus it is as we know it theologically. Their is a great number of historical works both in and outside of academia on the simplification and unification of the pre davidic world and after on the subjective . You must understand the context in The time of judges is truly learning simplification and how identify this ontology and its practical physical and spiritual doctrine. Its being developed and refined in gensis and through judges. It was always been known and many different pre exodus ways of combating such demonic forces but God is inspiring this formulation all the way through the gospels.
Isaiah 54-17 ,,,, You Rebuke It ,,, The reason that No Weapon formed a you will prosper is that You condemn every word ,,,,, If you don't rebuke it ,,, You let it stand ,,,, YOU Condemn every word that comes against you in judgement ,,,,, From a spirit in your mind or a demon talking trash through a person standing in front of you. Cleans Self 2 Cor.7-1 ,,,
I have also smelled the smell of sin. It’s like a mix of sewage, burnt flesh, filth unlike anything I have ever smelled. I’ve also seen demons manifest and the first time I freaked out. Fighting the devil is easier in groups but flying solo is not impossible.
1:02:50 Perhaps in Mark 9:29 ‘this kind’ is their faithlessness (this kind of faithlessness comes out by prayer and fasting). Because just a few verses earlier in Mark 9:19 that’s what he’s rebuking them about. Why rebuke them on their lack of faith but then say they just needed to pray and fast because ‘this kind’ of demon is too strong?
I LOVE this discussion with Sam!! Great learning. Thanks! I keep wanting to tell Christians to be emboldened in the area of spiritual warfare too. I very much relate to this. “Fight the good fight of faith.” 1 Timothy 6:12 🔥♥️🔥
Amen. 🙏
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True ! I felt so powerful when I was demonized , until I was in the middle of suicide ready to kill myself very far away from God , I wasn’t looking for God at all I was looking to die and God showed up at that very moment he found me ! He stepped it and saved me he showed me his love forgiveness power and mercy! In my desperation searching I was blessed to find a church that had a Deliverance Ministry it took 3 sessions of prayer and repentance to God and I was set free ! I was baptized in water and in the Spirit ...Iam no longer a slave to Satan and his dominions ! I’ve been set free ! Free indeed ! Chains are broken !! IAm a new creation ! To God be the Glory ! So be it
deliverance is in Christ only and demons are impures spirits who cannot be in us if we are IN Christ. Impures spirits also refer to falses doctrines,the devil is a liar till the beginning.
Amen sister.. May the Lord bless and protect you
Praise the Lord!!
Amen sister! I have a similar testimony and thank the Lord for his deliverance! God bless you.
How did you find the church
Just thought of the analogy of a policeman. Someone who just newly joined the police force has the same amount of authority to arrest a criminal as a police officer who has been serving for a year or two. This authority was given to them by the government. However, the new police officer may not be as effective in identifying a suspicious person, or as bold in confronting and arresting him as compared to the senior officer. Do both have the same authority? Yes. Does the authority come from the same source? Yes. But one has far more knowledge and experience in exercising that authority!
That’s a great analogy. Like all things in life experience is crucial.
Very well explained
Wow what a great analogy!
Wow good analogy!
Wonderful analogy!
I'm so relieved to see that there are actually Christians out there who are not afraid to discuss the reality of what is out there in the world. It amazes me that while we serve a God who is a Spirit, many either do not believe in demons/negative spirits, or they are simply to afraid to consider them and/or talk about them. This was a truly enlightening conversation, and I look forward to reading Dr. Storm's books, and I plan on looking up more videos from him. I hope Remnant Radio will have him back again soon! Thank you!
Sam’s biblical rebuttal to the “can’t have a demon and the Holy Spirit in the same place” line of thinking was fantastic. I wish I had heard that a couple of years back when I was deeply hurting. Mad respect to Sam for demonstrating high-level biblical knowledge and also a tender pastoral/fatherly heart.
This is both liberating and sobering. Liberating from the confusion of not knowing why certain parts of my mind/soul were deeply troubled (potential demonic oppression as I’ve come to find out). Sobering in that I must be watchful of my life and any areas where I may give a “foothold” to the enemy. I’m not impenetrable and should walk thoughtfully and humbly.
Also, it felt kinda like an unexpected crossover episode when he mentioned he used to minister with Mike Bickle. That’s dope!
Yes, he made an excellent point, and it would've been helpful in my life as well years ago. I fell into a deep depression and even suicidal thoughts as a born-again Christian minister, and in large part it was due to my ignorance of the enemy's ways. I thank God for His grace, mercy, and power because He brought me through to victory! I now recognize when the enemy comes with those old thoughts, and I give him no place, and God has used me to help others who have been oppressed by the same. All glory to Jesus!
I so appreciate how either Josh or Michael always stop to clarify terms, passages, etc to make sure those listening understand!
Yes, that’s one of the things that makes their show so good. It should be a lot more popular!
Sam Storms is great! If this is anyone’s first time hearing the warfare worldview (it’s unfortunately not talked about much) then I would suggest Derek Prince, Frank Hammond and Don Dickerman as well. This is a worthwhile study that will change your entire perception of the world
Thank you for the suggestions!! ❤️
Derek Prince was my mainstay as a new believer and he was of tremendous help to me as I went to seances with my mom and not church. I needed strong teaching and instruction and Derek Prince, Lester Summerall and those who understood Spiritual Warfare were huge helps to me and I learned how to maintain my deliverance little by little so the beasts of the field didn’t overcome me, Exodus 23:29 and today those who understand this realm in Truth are my choice til this day
Deliverance is only one part of this Maintenance is equally as important and that’s not spoken of as much as deliverance. Its important that people in ministry must commit themselves to the individual on the long term basis how Jackie Pulinger speaks of..that’s what broken, fragmented, misunderstood, people need more than anything.
Greetings all, I am a Christian that is suffering greatly with what I believe to be a unique kind of spiritual warfare and demonic oppression. Despite doing all I can to rid myself of this all encompassing ordeal I feel I am still not that much further on in this battle. I am sincerely asking anyone that reads this who can help me or knows of anyone that can help to contact me so we can talk about this. I would be extremely grateful for this and will appreciate greatly any support you can provide. I cannot do anymore to remedy this oppression. Thankyou, and God bless you all 🙏
Hi, are you doing any better? Are you part of a local church, maybe a small group that can pray over you?
He’s humble and produces that humility we all need to strive to have when we’re talking about our beliefs and at the same time respecting what others believe. We only have a little scripture for a lot of theology. It’s fun to go down these rabbit holes at the same time respecting others.
I enjoy Dr Rob Reimers work in this area. He often says to ask God because “God is smart and likes to tell us stuff”.
I prefer go to scripture becasue that is where God speak to us from.
@A Lucky Man! he’s not. Maybe you shouldn’t speak so
Quickly. Pretty sure there is a proverb about that.
2 Timothy 1:7. For God has not given us the spirit of FEAR, but of POWER, LOVE and of a SOUND MIND.
I love your channel guys, it's great to see that you invite Christians of other denominations and we can agree to disagree on some things but still be brothers and sisters in Christ. Also the topic of spiritual warfare is so important. Thanks again. God bless you
Yes it’s very important to remember that we are all in the body of Christ. It’s the enemy that wants to create separation.
Amen, because I believe the one has more of the belief Christians can’t have demons, or he did on episodes years back if I’m not mistaken so I very much appreciate the shows w opposite views!
Love this, glad Mike H.'s work is getting out there
This is so good I didn’t want it to end. Thank you guys for this interview.
1 month later, have you practiced anything from this talk?
Love Dr. Storms! His humility is refreshing!
LOVE this show so very much. Thank you for your show and how your love for Jesus, love for truth, and love for intelligent discussion of biblical topics is evident. Be blessed by God Almighty. ☺️✝️❤️
I like what dr. Heiser said about geographically assigned principalities, which differs from dr. Sam. The difference is that the principalities are not assigned by satan but by God. They are not demons of some particular sin but spirits assigned to rule over nations as stewards under God’s authority.
This goes against everything we have learned in western Christianity but dr. Heiser goes into it in his book The Unseen Realm. Reading it now. So so good and biblically sound. It is a scholarly work and not any kind of fluff goofiness. It is worth every penny.
If you believe and ask boldly for his help he will cast them away. My daughter can see them and when we found God and Jesus they left as soon as we used his name. People don’t believe because they can’t see but we have been free ever since.
Don't have faith in our steps, have faith in Jesus sums it up really well
I'm the same way with dicerning evil spirits. I feel their presence.
Sometimes (as Christians) we need to "tank up" on the Bible. Jesus is the Light of the world. Light can't have any fellowship with darkness. I would try to concentrate on Scripture more than thinking about the devil. God hasn't given us the spirit of fear, but "power, 💕 love, and a sound mind." Also we need to: "Be strong in the Lord and in the Power of His Might." (Ephesians 6:10) and to put on the whole armour of God. (See Ephesians 6:10 up to the end of the Chapter) Jesus Christ conquered Satan when He died on the Cross. Jesus make a show of Satan "openly." He is really a defeated for....
defeated foe
Great conversation! As Christians we shouldn't become demon hunters where we look for them, but we should know our authority and how to deal with the demonic when it rears its ugly head. Thanks so much for doing this interview guys!
I also think we should try to cast demons out of "the heavenlies or heavenly places." If we do that, they will come to 🌎 earth and try to mess with us. I know this from experience. I will never even think about casting Satan out of the "heavenlies" again. This teaching was really popular in the 1990s and it caused a lot of problems. I could talk about a few of those things later if anybody wants to know. Jesus Christ is Lord....🎁❤️🙏
I meant to say "We should NOT try to cast demons out of heavenly places.
I love every answer this guy gave. I'm in complete agreement with him 🔥🔥🔥
THIS WAS GREAT!!!! Love these discussions so much!!!!
thank you all for this!!!!
So good. Mind blown - love! Thank you for this episode!!!!!
Thanks for making space for this great conversation.
Yes, praise God! Finally, a Pastor speaking truth
Love your channel guys and love Dr. Storms. My question is where do we have have peace and assurance if we don’t think there’s a difference between possession and oppression? How much of our struggles do we blame on the enemy vs. just living in a fallen world. I think it can be dangerous when we fixate too much on making sure every single sin is confessed and if not, you might get demonized. I just don’t see how that teaching produces peace. I hope that makes sense.
Sometimes I think Christians (some of them) spend more time thinking about the devil than they do thinking about Jesus Christ. Who is more important?
Satan is under our feet. If Satan tries to bother me, I tell him to get lost. I use the Word of God and the Power, Name, and the Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit....
Makes perfect sense
As someone who struggles with a chronic illness and thus has really wrestled with this issue of healing, I think it's really critical to recognize that God TOLD PAUL that He wasn't going to remove that thorn in the flesh (whatever the "thorn" actually was). He may not have removed the thorn, but He did give Paul a clear ANSWER. So I think it's reasonable to assume that we should keep pressing in, keep asking, UNLESS AND UNTIL God specifically TELLS us the answer is no.
I also have had physiological reactions. Not so much regarding the presence of evil powers in a place, but when I hear a teaching that is "off" I'll often get a knot in my stomach that prompts me to dig and investigate further if what the person is saying is accurate scripturally.
That’s could be part of the gift of discernment of spirits.
That could just be the Holy Spirit speaking to your heart ❤️ and telling you to be careful
I would suggest our confusion about terms arises because today we use the word “possess” differently than they did centuries ago when the King James Bible was produced. In older English, saying someone was “possessed of demons” simply meant that he had demons. In the same way, it was once to common to say that a man was “possessed of great wealth,” or that a woman was “possessed of great beauty.” But this has now become archaic. As a result, we’ve developed some confusion about what our English Bibles are saying about demons.
Great talk! Really cleared up a lot of thoughts and doubts I had on warfare and all that. Thank you Sam, looking forward to getting the book
This is very good
I am new to the gifts of the Spirit, even though I have been saved for 30 years. I prayed to be baptized by Jesus in the Spirit, and I began speaking new tongues. I see visions and interpretations. I have cast out demons twice in just a few months of being filled with the Spirit. It came instinctively from the Spirit through tongues. I also have discernment of spirits, and, I too, FEEL it. I also feel like I could throw up, but not a physical vomiting. Something what I say is like a spirtual vomiting.
I don't think we (as Christians) should go around trying to "feel" or "sense" weird stuff. I think that opens up a can of worms.
You can do what you want, but I'm not going to go around looking for trouble....
If you are saved youve already been baptized by Jesus in the Holy Spirit...
I see deliverance as part of the gift of discerning of spirits.
It is past time that pastors need to teach on spiritual warfare and the believers authority. Thank you Dr. storms.
I heard a rest message on Jesus seeing Satan falling like lightning and it was that Jesus was there in Heaven when God cast him out and that Gods power was so strong that it wasn’t even a struggle. It was just over.
This is so enlightening!
Great information..thanks!
God bless your ministry
As a son of the most high God, you were given spiritual senses to see what kind of bondage this woman was in. :) Physical manifestations uncover the enemy and put him at risk in the presence of a believer who knows how to use his or her sword and authority in Christ!
The last part of the episode helped me a lot. 😭
I have so many questions from this.
Years ago when the concept of "pleading the blood" was first given to me, I had a woman that claimed to be a witch came to mothers home with a nephew. Not wanting a physical argument I chose to just be quiet but did to myself under my breath "Plead the Blood". After maybe 3 minutes this lady make a loud gurgling sound in a very deep voice saying "JESUS" as she ran out of the house leaving in her car?
WITH ALL THESE PARADES etc. going on, I wonder if a few dozen believers lined up on their routes might stir a response opening up these folks to a need in their lives. No confrontation just a quiet "pleading of the Blood" expressing Christ's authority.
I can attest to having been demonized. I was a new believer and newly baptized in the Holy Ghost. After leaving church one night I was attacked but I didn't understand it then. When we got home we were going to read the bible as a family but I began to feel anxious and angry and I couldn't read. I went to my room where I slandered God, wanted to be left alone, couldn't read my bible, couldn't focus, settle myself or pray. The next day my body ached as if I'd had the flu. That night I heard a siren in the distance, I believed it was on the highway near us, and at that moment i felt relief. The next day we learned that a man on the highway near us made a choice to end his life in his car the night before. I knew that I knew that I knew at that I had experienced an attack and this demonic spirit went to where this man was. This happened years ago but looking back now I believe God has used this to prepare me. In the past few weeks God, through His Holy Spirit, has placed in my spirit what my mind could not understand; Ephesians 6:12. This changes my thinking regarding others and how I view people.
Very important
Hello, I love this podcast. It is so good to learn more about theology. Please, with possible put subtitles to help us...
WOW! This is great!
I would've loved to hear yall touch on generational curses as well. Very good discussion nonetheless.
Spirtual warefare in my personal experience is like a general in command of an army. it may take many spiritual fights with Demons before they begin to recognize as any general on the opposite side would see you as someone to be reckon with. I am speaking of your anointing as a god believer.
As a god believer ?
Morning Christian family, if anyone wants to know where in the bible satan transforms in a beam of light, which was mentioned in this video, its in 2 Corinthians 11:14, 🙏. Its everywhere in the world even in your own community. You may think that something or someone is good when it really isn't 🤔. Just be careful in your dealings with people or certain situations etc. This is a really good learning video,❤
You guys need to look up Steve Gregg. He's another Sam Storm. A bit less charismatic, but wonderful in doctrine and a really likable person. Also Amil, but Armenianist. Argues like a gentleman and is pretty a pretty sharp cookie.
Was listening to Deliverance's Weapons of Our Warfare album and then this came out. Nice timing!
Definitely pray to Yahweh about your Egyptian eye image, which is a symbol representing a god of the new age (a demon looking for worship). You want spiritual discernment for spiritual warfare? Ask God for wisdom, for He gives without finding fault. May Jesus Christ bless you in your walk.
@@jesusislord1285 The eye is also a Christian symbol of God observing the earth.
Excellent discussion!
Prayer and fasting, boys. Prayer and fasting...
This was great. Wow.
Very good program. It was actually confirmation to some of the stuff I explained to a Christian brother of mine. I appreciate you guys and how you all address topics in a fair and balanced way. God bless you all.
Keep you the great work people need to understand these things amen God bless you guys
If there's a chance that God allows satan's affliction (thorn, sifting) on God's children, for His glory and our growth, who are we to think we should be rebuking and casting that out. And how would we ever be successful in doing so without His "blessing".
Love this guy!
Praise the Lord 🙏
LIVE by Every Word that Proceeds out of the mouth of God , not everything that comes to Your mind ,,,,,
All will be taught by God ,,, taught here is sound down into the ears ,,,
Who are these that can fly ?
Man, we definitely need more topos (that's in my current vocabulary list for class woo!) places where we teach train in this topic. It reminds me of one of the classes in Hogwarts the defense against the Dark Arts class. This is not just fun fiction but real life! Hear we can also learn from the "global south" where there's more acceptance on this issue. Also there's this fallacy that this only happens abroad. Far from the truth! As Dr. Storms attest it is occurring right here in the USA.
I had something out of hell haunting me for about 30 years. A set of security camaras made it leave me alone, I guess it doesnt like getting filmed. Good ridance, the last time it almost choked me to death.
this was amazing!
Maybe here is someone who can answer thisquestion i have: In Daniel 10 an angel is holdup by an other angel: "...Daniel, heaven has heard your prayers, and I have come to answer your prayers, but I was slowed down for 21 days by the prince of Persia." This prince of Persia is mentioned again in verse 20. "Then he said, “Do you know why I have come to you? But now I will return to fight against the prince of Persia; and when I go out, behold, the prince of Greece will come." What can we tell about what this holding up is about... when i have a dispute with someone he can hold me by force or even kill me. What is there in the heavens to slow somebody down? Or even fight with, they can not be killed, or can they? What are we (or angels) fighting with? Can it have something to do with patience, or Love or whatever we are learning here being a Christian on this earth..... The Bible does not tell it but maybe logic can or whatever...
@Janaina Ribeiro That is a good one: "arguments over God's laws", thanx!
At around 107 min you talked about Paul’s thorn in the flesh. It states clearly that it was a tormenting demon spirit that would not leave. This was so Paul would not feel invulnerable so he could mature further. The thorn in the flesh means a weakness, for example the addiction to coffee or chocolate that’s fleshy weakness. Maybe it was tormenting visions of past sins that would not leave. The scripture never mentioned sickness. We have a promise to be free from sickness in many scriptures. 1 Peter 2:24 NLT
[24] He personally carried our sins in his body on the cross so that we can be dead to sin and live for what is right. By his wounds you are healed. Secondly endurance comes from trials. James 1:2-4 NKJV
[2] My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, [3] knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. [4] But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
1 Peter 2:24 quoted from Isaiah 53 is talking about healing of our disrupted relationship with God. Nothing to do with physical healing. Often misquoted.
@@varghj2006agreed. it's very clear, it's not of physical ailments. This is grossly misquoted to suit an agenda. These people with this misconception should tell people of faith who suffer with diseases such as cancer this nonsense. God can and does heal, but it's not a given.
The movie “NOPE” by Jordan Peele… I think is about these powers of the air… has anyone else seen this movie and agrees? What do you think?
I have a great story to tell about this. Believe me, the demons know your name if you are truly in Christ. A demon knew my friends name and called them by name in a city they visited. Both their names together. Then stared at them when previously the woman was acting like a mentally ill homeless woman with no eye contact...until she called their names and they turned to look at her and she stared them down...scared my brothers so mucn they didnt know how to react...just ran to the nearest starbucks just to sit and reflect. They were initially in a hurry to get back to their car cause the parking meter was soon to expire. Forgot all about that!!
Is there a fine line of walking in our authority/identity in Christ and creating ministry that is only based on casting out demons, exorcisms etc? I’ve seen a few people say they are a Christian and they’re a demonologist and they study demons.
There's nothing wrong with that. It's much better to know your enemy rather then just pretending the enemy isn't there. This is a spiritual battlefield
The Watch Word in the church is
" Ignorance is Bliss " they read the part about being responsible for what they know and stuck their head back into the sand .
Ignorance is Bliss !
Thank you!
FEAR is the beginning of EVERYTHING. Fear of ANYTHING but God is sin and opens an avenue of attack. BUT, you MUST follow the law as closely as possible... especially with regards to judging God's use of evil to punish someone - because then you are an accuser.
Wow. Really great conversation and teaching. 🙌
How does one go about including this type of teaching/practice in an evangelical church that has no experience but wants to learn and practice? Same with spiritual gifts and the miraculous? I'm curious about the hosts' and how they've incorporated this stuff in their respective churches. Is it a matter of starting a small group? Starting a ministry within the church? Don't know if that's something that's commonly done but maybe a future video idea? Just something I'm curious about
Don't worry about this guys teaching, he complicates life for you. If you listen closely he often makes up stuff that "sounds" Christian but is of another spirit. Preach the Gospel, that is where the POWER is. I use to be involved in spiritual warfare groups for 30 years and thought i knew what i was doing. This guys teaches the same stupid stuff i once believed. I cant believe how deceived i was. Praying is also powerful but we have no authority given to us personally. Let God do the spiritual stuff as he knows every single detail while we pray to God for HIM to do his work for his glory. While we preach the Gospel and teach repentance. Our job is simple and we ALL can do it right from the time we are born again. This guy makes it a complicated mess that no one ever understands. It is all based upon his "feelings and experiences" then he adds scripture to justify his feelings that can not be tested. He IS being extra Biblical, he adds to scripture and he takes away from scripture. He is deceiving many and sadly i once taught the same.
@@jake3510001 i think he was right on with scripture. I think the bible is pretty clear about the authority we have. Of course it's not us ourselves doing it. We are ambassadors and God does it through us. I have also felt impressions when there is dark stuff around. It is definitely a real thing. It is so prevalent in the world, but in America it's subtle because discernment is a growth area here. I like your reminder though that this is his work for his glory, very important to remember when engaging with this stuff
@@erickdiaz6152 Discernment? What is discernment? Hearing imaginary voices in your head and just maybe it might have been God if you think hard enough, jump through hoops, tune into some mysterious wave length? All of which are not biblical. Or do we go to the very word of God, The Bible is Gods prophetic word. It is verifiable, testable and equips a believer for everything. If you are imagining God is speaking to you giving extra Biblical revelations that can not be tested how would you know it is God or the devil? Never forget the devil comes as an angel of light, he appears as Christ. What are you going to do when you find out you were deceived because you trusted strange voices in your head? Remember many will follow another spirit to suit their sensualities. Scripture didnt warn us so much about the church being deceived. If you are a true born again believer, you have nothing to worry about when it comes to "Dark stuff". You are obedient to Gods word yeah? That's it then. You defeated the devil because of your obedience. No special chants and incantations, no religious Hoohaa. Pretty simple. not much to remember. Anyone can do it. But wait, if you are talking to someone with a demon do you think you really have power over it? Even if you thought you did how do you really actually know it is not playing games with you? You dont know. Thats how they want you to think, they deceive and you have no idea what they are thinking. So dont bother trying. Preach the word, tell people they need to repent and turn from their wickedness and put their trust in God, Once they are born again the devil can not EVER touch them whilst they are obedient to their father. Simple, no drama, no 10 point plans, no books to read about spiritual warfare. You be obedient (Resist evil) the devil will flee, he has no choice. This way you focus on preaching the gospel, discipling people so that the yare not led into false doctrines like this guy teaches, and serving people with love. Let God deal with all the spiritual stuff we cant see, he knows what is going on you dont.
@@jake3510001 I see. Thanks for clarifying your position. I believe we can hear from God and the way you test it is by comparing it to the Word. If it goes against the Word, then it's not God. The Word is our anchor. Not worth arguing lol I am sure of my salvation, and I am also sure in the fact that I can receive the Holy Spirit's guiding when the bible does not specifically speak to my circumstances.
I would just encourage you to not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Yes, there are some wack-os out there with false deliverance ministries, and sounds like you had a bad experience, but that doesn't mean that demon deliverance at the hand of Christians, empowered by God is not real. Those are all my thoughts and that's all I'll say. These youtube discussions get so tiring sometimes haha and I don't have the time for it.
God Bless you and thanks for your exhortation to preach the word and repentance 👐
@@erickdiaz6152 I am not doubting if you are saved but i advise take advice from people who challenge you in areas you never been challenged. Most do not. Most follow after myths and delusions seeking signs and wonders. Jesus tells us what the Holy spirits role is and how it functions, your version is like mine once was but it is not scripturally accurate. No i didn't have a bad experience. I enjoyed what i had until everything began to contradict itself. Scripture never contradicts itself and the Holy spirit is NEVER in error. As i researched contradictions i learnt scripture interprets scripture thus never contradicting itself but this made me see how i was deceived by a false gospel. Now i see far more power in the gospel than ever before. I can assure you know with 100% accuracy that you have no idea if God is speaking to you. You only hope he does, It is how you were taught to think. So was i. I relied upon hearing from God but even that became inconsistent and as the years went by it became a struggle to keep some semblance or logic. It was like the scales fell from my eyes and i could see another power far greater then the pathetic one i had been living for so many years. Since then i had to battle over coming the brainwashing i had lived. You do not hear voices from God and if you do you can never prove it is truly God to me nor yourself. You have no way to prove it. And like you said, if it lines up with scripture never forget the devil uses scripture. He can suck you into all manner of false teachings when you leave the bounds of scripture. And if you understand how the spirit of God works no you do not need "special revelations" That is the heresy of Gnosticism. There is mountains of false teaching that sounds biblical. We were warned over and over again about it but no one truly tests anything. Some people have discernment as a gift but not many listen becasue they are deceived by Cleverley designed myths. Many Christians do not understand scripture but claim they hear from God. I hear from God, i hear his powerful authorities voice every time i read scripture. it is perfect, it is testable and it is verifiable. Any voices in your head is adding to scripture, it is like you are in the dark, outside, blind folded with people all around you with night vision. They can see perfectly but you are searching for God outside of his Holy prophetic word. You are not satisfied that the word is enough so you need more, more , more. It becomes a drug and you can never get enough, you never quite make it. Today i have complete confidence in Gods power, i have all the faith he gave me to achieve his will. I am victorious in all things because of Christ and i dont need to beat the devil again and again and again just to have him back again. Who keeps letting these demons out after they been bound? It is nonsense.
The Bible is specifically clear that a born-again holy spirit sealed Believer cannot be possessed by demons they can merely be oppressed... every person who needed Deliverance in the scriptures were lost unbelievers that were Bound by demons not one instance ever of a saved believer having a demon casted out of them so if you are a professing Believer and people are casting demons out of you then you are still lost and need to be born again by placing your faith in the person and finished work of Christ Alone
Absolutely false statement.I was born again and fell into a lifestyle of sin which opened doors to demons.I was delivered years later from demonic oppression.I was also healed from seizures due to a demonic spirit.
You give ground to the enemy and he takes it.
Brother Dave, you are Wrong. You set up a false dichotomy based off of bad semantics.
I agree with you. When someone is saved, the Holy Spirit is living inside of them. They belong to Jesus and Jesus is not going to share. If someone has the Holy Spirit living inside of them, a demon cannot enter them and have control.
Shalom!
Being born again mean that you are a new creature who has hearkened unto The Most High God and has not only come out of everything that is not of God according to: 2 Corinthians 6:17
[17]Wherefore come out from among them, and bee yee separate, saieth the Lord, and touch not the vncleane thing, and I will receiue you,
Never again can you have fellowship with things which are contrary to the Almighty God: 2 Corinthians 6:14-16.
The Almighty God Himself has received you and now you are His/her child and He is your Father.
The word of God is so clear. There is no way our Heavenly Father can share the same platform with demons. In the Old Testament the presence of the Ark of the Almighty God brought Dagon to its knees more than once: 1 Samuel 5:1-4
[1]And the Philistines tooke the Arke of God, and brought it from Ebenezer vnto Ashdod.
[2]When the Philistines tooke the Arke of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon, and set it by Dagon.
[3]¶ And when they of Ashdod arose earely on the morrow, behold, Dagon was fallen vpon his face to the earth, before the Arke of the Lord: and they tooke Dagon, and set him in his place againe.
[4]And when they arose earely on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon was fallen vpon his face to the ground, before the Arke of the Lord: and the head of Dagon, and both the palmes of his hands were cut off vpon the threshold, only the stumpe of Dagon was left to him.
[14]Be ye not vnequally yoked together with vnbeleeuers: for what fellowship hath righteousnesse with vnrighteousnesse? and what communion hath light with darknesse?
[15]And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that beleeueth, with an infidel?
[16]And what agreement hath the Temple of God with idoles? for ye are the Temple of the liuing God, as God hath saide, I will dwell in them, and walke in them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
AMEN.
Blessings.
People forget we are a sinful flesh. Too many blame demons when in reality they need to resist the devil and he will flee. I'm totally with you on this.. There are no teachings on how to cast out demons in saved people in the Bible.. it has become such a big production, and commonplace practice... You would think that the writers in the Bible would have touched on it specifically.
I didn't find there was a lot of Scriptural teaching to prove your thoughts on the denomic
Another good argument for Christians being demonized, in my view, would be in Galatians three, where Paul asks the Galatians, who has bewitched you, that you should not obey the truth… Also, in one Corinthians 12, evidently people were speaking things under the inspiration of demonic spirit, in verses 1:3. You also have passages like Ephesians 4:27, James 4:7, one Peter 5:8 that would seem to give credence to this idea. This is in addition to places like Luke 13, when the spirit of infirmity was cast out of the daughter of Abraham. Interestingly enough, Jesus did most of his delivering from demons, at least a lot of it in the synagogues. Love, Sam, storms, and his stand for the word and spirit.
Except that in Galatians Paul goes on to say that he could wish the false teachers 'cut themselves off' referring to circumcision, so that clearly is talking about false teachers.
Thanx, Gentlemen 🌹🌲🌹
Thanks you!
Keep the Feasts of the Lord by the Spirit once for all time becoming a Temple made without hands .
Elect higher region people
Able to handle life's storms!
One comment on the reference from 2 Corinthians 12 and Paul's thorn...it was demonic and it was infirming him. However, the Lord's admonition to Paul was not "sorry Paul my grace/mercy is enough", which seems to leave Paul struggling with no apparent resolution. That is an assumed conclusion but wrong, he's not just saying tough it out Paul. The correction is this: "Paul, my Grace is enabling you and empowering (GUYS, that is what 'Grace' is....the equipping of the Holy Ghost you didn't have until it was supernaturally imparted) you which is enough to deliver you. Jesus is letting him know, You have an abundance of my anointing to beat this down, and out, and off of you, no matter what it is." Paul's access to the grace was through his submission to the power of the word from the Lord (Eph. 2:8, a protracted application for this situation) and victory was inevitable for him if he could continue to press toward that breakthrough. But that's my 2 cents
Great talk
They even discuss Genesis 6. This so legit.
Indeed.
So Genesis 6 makes something legit?
@@tomtemple69 When discussing the works of the enemy, the question of origins is useful. The disembodied spirits theory makes sense to me because demons used to have vessels, and now they seek to enter people to experience it again.
If you're a believer and wondering if you are demonized in a particular area, how do you know if it just requires repentance on your part or deliverance?
I did and do both.
Repent often.
Did self deliverance via Derek Prince book and also deliverance with a Deliverance minister.
I had been in new age etc so I think I needed the deliverance.
Deliverance can happen through reading and studying the scriptures also.
Great question Tucker. First, I would say, simply, ask the Lord. 1 Cor. 12 mentions discernment of spirits. Even if someone doesn't have that gift, I think if someone is praying about themselves on this matter, God will mercifully reveal it. Second, I would say that if you've had unforgiveness in your life for a long time, there's a solid chance of demonization (Eph. 4:26-27). Another example would be unrepentant sin, which caused Saul to be demonized (1 Sam. 18:9-10). That's not to suggest that all unrepentant sin leads to demonization, every time. I'm just saying that it leaves a "hole in our armor" as I like to say (Eph. 6:10-18). It leaves us vulnerable. Last, if you find yourself returning to the same unholy patterns with ferocious repetition, that can be evidence that it's more than just your flesh manipulating these patterns. It could be spiritual. Hope that helps!
@@michaelrowntree2005 It does, thank you. I guess it would help to find someone trustworthy to pray for me in this area. Not easy to find with all the craziness in the WOF movement.
@@sarahberry792 Do you have a scripture about deliverance coming through reading the word?
Search up Pigs in the Parlor by Frank Hammond on RUclips. It’s a 5 part series that is led by one of the best deliverance ministers in recent times and explains demons and includes deliverance at the end of a few of the videos. Definitely worth the watch. Completely changed my life
Paul's thorn has been interpreted as other people persecuting him. 1:00 mark
Awesome episode
Have you all had Jon Mark Ruthven on a show? If not I think he would be good to have. He has written a book addressing Warfield's cessationist teachings and a book called What's Wrong with Protestant Theology.
How do we know the difference between a person operating in the demonic or just a person being a jerk? I’ve never had good discernment. I’ve had dreams of the demonic in my life but that’s it and they never make sense.
Dreams of the demonic are just that: dreams
Don't get your theology or life decisions or ways of thinking from a dream
I have the most ridiculous wacky dreams all the time, what do they mean? It means I have a very active imagination
Solomon asked each spirit what it was called and tried to find out it’s purpose and more importantly which Arch Angel they were afraid of.
Where are you getting this info from?
What scripture is that in?
Back to the Basics ?
When you are born again the demons that you had are cast out by the presence of the Holy Spirit in you .
Now on the outside talking trash to you , familiar spirits .
The carnal mind , full of worldly spiritual strongholds is a project that you take on under the instructions of the Holy Spirit.
2 Cor. 7-1 ,, cleans self ,,,
2 Cor. 10-3,5 , You Do it ,,,,,,
Spirit of man
Spirit - Born dead
Soul - Carnal Mind
Body - Beast ( demon-strator )
Born again
Spirit - New Creation Gal. 4-1
Soul - Mind of Christ
Body - Remnant - Full head of grain
A double minded person is unstable in all of Their Ways !
Until YOU delete the carnal mind and upload the Mind of Christ ,,,
YOU are unstable ,,,,,,,,
Opinion,
How do you expect us to undertand spiritual warfare If you don't even talk about physical earthly warfare?! I suggest it is a Christ-like teaching methodology to take a biblical principle from Jn 3:12. It is helpful to compare and contrast with the familiar experiences to grasp the unfamiliar one! After all, this is the purpose of the gift of teaching for!
John Sanford argues from the pronouns Luke's version of the demoniac that Jesus was not asking for the demon's name. He was asking the man his name and the demon interrupted. Luke refers to the demon as 'it' and the man as 'he' or 'him'. They conclude that, with no examples of Jesus asking for a demon's name, we shouldn't do it either. Thoughts?
Could it be that Jesus preached to those in prison is ‘Since before He came There was No savior and after the cross He preached to those held in captivity and on that day hell was emptied and the only ones there today are those who are there after The Cross. I don’t believe anyone there refused What Jesus preached and I don’t believe He didn’t give them All a chance to get out. I’m not a scholar But a follower since 1978 and that makes the most sense to me even after Dr Storms explanation.
This Formulation God's inspired identification and unification on this is happening before your eyes in genesis especially after David through Solomon on through judges by the time of Jesus it is as we know it theologically.
Their is a great number of historical works both in and outside of academia on the simplification and unification of the pre davidic world and after on the subjective . You must understand the context in The time of judges is truly learning simplification and how identify this ontology and its practical physical and spiritual doctrine.
Its being developed and refined in gensis and through judges.
It was always been known and many different pre exodus ways of combating such demonic forces but God is inspiring this formulation all the way through the gospels.
Jesus healed ALL who came to him....AND he made housecalls.
Read the end of mark 1...
Isaiah 54-17 ,,,, You Rebuke It ,,,
The reason that No Weapon formed a you will prosper is that You condemn every word ,,,,,
If you don't rebuke it ,,, You let it stand ,,,,
YOU Condemn every word that comes against you in judgement ,,,,,
From a spirit in your mind or a demon talking trash through a person standing in front of you.
Cleans Self 2 Cor.7-1 ,,,
I have also smelled the smell of sin. It’s like a mix of sewage, burnt flesh, filth unlike anything I have ever smelled. I’ve also seen demons manifest and the first time I freaked out.
Fighting the devil is easier in groups but flying solo is not impossible.
U need a nose transplant😂😂😅
This was excellent!!
I feel like fairly soon everybody, Christian or not, are going to be faced with the reality of the unseen real.
1:02:50 Perhaps in Mark 9:29 ‘this kind’ is their faithlessness (this kind of faithlessness comes out by prayer and fasting). Because just a few verses earlier in Mark 9:19 that’s what he’s rebuking them about. Why rebuke them on their lack of faith but then say they just needed to pray and fast because ‘this kind’ of demon is too strong?