If you had it stripped down like that already it would have been best to wire wheel it down to bare metal removing all rust, treat with a proper rust converter, seam seal it and then properly undercoat it. I’d question the longevity of what’s been done as you haven’t removed the rust, just treated the surface of it, if that spray works as they say it does. Loving the series so far.
@@bobbobo4748 oil based is meant to be reapplied every year and water doesn't mix with oil actually mine cannot even be sprayed off with a pressure washer. And you're talking about 1 type of wax from Sanders which isn't readily available to Canadians and less proven.
SEM is a company that makes paint and dyes, I converted an EK civic from gray to black with a few cans of special interior dye paint stuff. It looked awesome and didn’t wear off!
I used dawn dish soap to clean my dash, then acetone, plastic adhesive primer, duplicolor black, i did about 10 coats total. It lasted me 5 years, sold it and its been going another 4 years no issues. I vote you flock it if you do not want to paint it. It being the better looking gray one.
Im amazed by how perfectionists you guys are when it comes to your builds, i am working on a project currently and the last thing im worrying about is a pretty dashboard 😂
Great series and I especially enjoy watching some fellow Canadians going through these meaty projects and dealing with sourcing parts and skills at home and abroad!
The grey dash came in the big stock basic/mass produced Lancers like the GLi and VRX ones. Only the EVOs 4-6 had the black interior dash (plus the MR I think). Either repair the dash or get a proper EVO one. Would be sacrilege to put a grey dash in a CP9A 😜
In Europe the colt/mirage from 00-03 in sport version had also the black dash. Earlier models from the normal Lancer/colt/mirage had all the grey dash.
Hey Guys I can really appreciate the Bottoms Up restore ! Had a 71 SS Chevelle that got prlled from Junk yard and no lift did the same thing using JC whitney's brush on rust eater and then just did the black undercoat ! Your upgraded product look a whole lot sweeter ! And sure to last 2 times as Long !! 20 years easy !!! Lots of Love you guys are Great !
Spray the dash with SEM interior dye in Landau black. Works great! Prep first with wax and grease remover, scrub and scuff with red scuff pad and dish soap water, wipe with wax and grease remover, dry, then spray with 3 even coats of the dye. It will look factory.
Hope Ohm Racing can make two separate harnesses, one engine and one chassis plus use MIL spec bulkhead connectors so you can easily split the harnesses from the bulkhead saving any dash deconstruction in the future- looking forward to seeing what they do!
This! Also, this is a GSR. The RS from memory doesn't have AYC, as they're essentially a rally car, and AYC is outlawed for rallying. If you can afford it, fit the RS gearbox and diffs, cos of the shorter ratios, and stronger diffs.
Pull everything that can come off from the replacement dash. Prep and paint it or flock it. Replace everything that was pulled off with the black bits from the original. Its the easiest way to get a great looking dash. Also the belly of the evo is looking mint!
Colored one LHD (EVO5, but basically the same dash as 6) gray dash to black on basic market spray can stuff, worked out well. Just many thin layers and it wouldn't wear off on the time I owned the car (2013-2016)
This video was yet more conformation to me that the Evo X is a much better platform. The only advantage of older Evos is the weight, but my Evo X is at 3200lbs and is still my daily. The Evo X is so easy to work on and is perfect for fixing at a stage
Blaine Petkau Yeah we all like older stuff, but sometimes the new stuff gets a lot right. Although I’ve always loved everything Honda has done since the late 80’s
Mitsubishi 90s electronics and Harnesses are full of hilarious redundancies, so their harnesses become incredibly bulky. I shaved 30lbs of wiring out of my 3000GT Trackcar. Spent weeks with all of the harnesses out of the car, peering over wiring diagram, de-pinning connectors, etc.. and it still had fully functioning head lights, turn signals, brake lights, interior lights, HVAC, etc on all Factory fuse boxes and relays... Everything to keep it a true streetcar.
You could get the holes holes more uniform, and then cut a plastic to the dimension and fit it in,plastic weld it in,and....though it may be a tad bit ricey,can hydro dip it...not necessarily carbon fibre finish,but may be even black. Or you can paint the grey one black
Guys! Get a plastic welder. Make a textured back up plate. Wax the top surface in another place. Spread some silicone on it in a 2" square spot. Apply a 2" square piece of thin aluminum plate to the silicone. Gently peel the plate up after it dries. That makes a textured mould.....Apply the plate to the top of the dash over one hole/tightly....From the bottom use the plastic welder to weld the hole shut. After it cools, gently peel the top mould plate off. It should have a really decent looking patch.
best is to remove all the rust with wire wheel or flap wheel , than use hydrochloric acid for the places you can't get easily to. Make sure to neutralise and remove the acid after your done with it. Then use zinc rich primer and than factory style undercoating and cavity wax for the inner sills and rockers. You can also use extra wax on top of the factory style undercoating for extra moisture and salt barrier. Other than that you're channel has great content greetings from the Netherlands
Damn man, I have an evo 5 that's been off the road for a couple of years now, and I just don't have the time or money to go through it and give it everything it needs. I hope one day I can do as good of a job as you guys.
Cover the whole top of the dash with black alcantara leather and it will cover the holes plus it won't have a shine in your eyes when driving into the sun! A lot of race car drivers do this to have no glare
I made the mistake of doing that underseal process. A year later it was all coming back through again. You need to take it back to bare metal guys and treat it with acid. Wire wheel it all. Then acid treat, The prime with zinc 182 primer, Then top coat, then your underseal/ boom matt paint. I actually did mine with POR 15, then underseal ontop.
All EVO and GSR's(4g93 turbo) dashes are black, they are identical to lower spec lancers of the non turbo variety which are grey. You can dye it black so long as it's prepped properly.
Plastic weld the dash and flock just the top surface of the dash. mask off a hard line that follows the contours of the dash. It could look very OEM plus!
CT sells a duplicolor interior paint that will give you a really nice oe finish but only if you really prep the dash by removing all the mold release contaminates and oils by using a good wax and grease remover
We had a guy at are dealership that would fix interior on used cars. He would make a imprint of the dash textures with what looked like play doh and fill holes and cracks with icing as he called it and then put the texture back on with the play doh. Looked like it was never damaged
Lol I'm a tech and I felt your pain when you were trying to take that harness out 😣 Best of luck when putting it back in! On Patreon, can we have behind the scenes footage of you guys cussing these cars out... That would be too real! 😄
I've had good luck with SEM products as well. Is that u-pol a single stage paint or does it have an activator? I may look into that because everything I've used from them was great.
Hi guys The Unterbodern was only half the battle for the EVO. It is much more important to preserve the cavity, especially from the frame. Mitsubishi has always had gray and black interiors Dash.
Pete, do a search for dashboard restoration specialist. they will totally fix that black dash and you won't be able to tell...next thing that fuel pump set-up is horrible for serviceability. i would install AN tube nuts on those hard lines. that way you won't have to drop the tank just to service the pumps...
Great stuff. I'm actually curious to see how this build turns out because of the challenges. But the 3M Scotchbrite pads and some alchemy by Boom Mat seems almost too easy. And DP, at least where I'm from in the lower 48, we've always pronounced Celica phonetically - Sell-IK-a (so no eek) in our vernacular. Great restoration project. Can't wait to see it hit the streets.
I think flocked dashes look terrible unless you have a stripped out and caged racecar. The flocked dash wont match the door panels or anything else in the interior. Repair your black dash or paint the grey dash. SEM color coat interior paint works well.
SEM 38353 Plastic Prep, SEM 39863 Plastic Adhesion Promoter, SEM Products 15243 Satin Black Color Coat will have the dash looking brand new like it was from the factory
Flock the grey dash black (as it has no holes in it) and just transfer all the Black plastics onto it off of the black one. would make a good How To Flock A Dash video
It would have been a good idea to remove the sill/rocker covers and rear bumper cover before doing this, just so everything is protected. Also it would have looked OEM good if you had run 2 or three cans of the colour matched silver just to finish it. The product does look really good.
The grey dash is from an ordinary front wheel drive Lancer (or a "Mirage" in North America) four door. The Mirage did come with a black dash but it was found in the coupes that had tan seats. I know... weird.
I would definitely attempt to plastic weld that dash and finish it up like body work and after you paint if it doesn't look good maybe incorporate some kind of carbon fiber wrap into a design of some sort so you don't have to wrap whole dash. If it comes down to it you have another dash. As far as the other dash if you prep it properly I believe you can spray it a different color and not have it flake. We pronounce Celica the same way as you...lol. Really like the channel, enjoy your content would be phenomenal if you were working on an Audi though....lol.
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Chargespeed sells a Carbon fiber dash For the evo 4/5/6 that retains All oem functions!
Its just a cover is it not ? Its not actually a dash.
If you had it stripped down like that already it would have been best to wire wheel it down to bare metal removing all rust, treat with a proper rust converter, seam seal it and then properly undercoat it.
I’d question the longevity of what’s been done as you haven’t removed the rust, just treated the surface of it, if that spray works as they say it does.
Loving the series so far.
Undercoat is shit anyways.. strip to bare metal and wax it thick. There are waxes that will stay forever and it cant rockchip.
Well... if you did what you say.. wire wheel and stuff... it's still gonna be rusting
@@bobbobo4748 what?? Undercoating with oil based spray is way better than wax. Wax dries overtime and cracks letting moisture in.
@@FrankkMedia that is wrong. Look up Mike Sanders wax. It doesnt dryhard. Oil based stuff mixes with water and looses its protection.
@@bobbobo4748 oil based is meant to be reapplied every year and water doesn't mix with oil actually mine cannot even be sprayed off with a pressure washer. And you're talking about 1 type of wax from Sanders which isn't readily available to Canadians and less proven.
Flock it! it´s a rally car! haha
Cheers from Argentina!
39 Argentinos?
@@gonz147 parece que si! jajaja
Falta que haya alguien mas de Córdoba! jeje
@@gonz147 de uruguay tambien
no
SEM is a company that makes paint and dyes, I converted an EK civic from gray to black with a few cans of special interior dye paint stuff. It looked awesome and didn’t wear off!
Use a mil spec connector for the harness. That'll make it even easier than adding extra plugs on the inside
Its almost like manufacturers want their cars to rust so you can buy a new one every 5 years. So easy and cheap to rustproof. Nice job guys.
"Welcome to another..." Thumbs immediately up.
I used dawn dish soap to clean my dash, then acetone, plastic adhesive primer, duplicolor black, i did about 10 coats total. It lasted me 5 years, sold it and its been going another 4 years no issues.
I vote you flock it if you do not want to paint it.
It being the better looking gray one.
The rust isn't gone, it's just hidden. It'll be back don't worry
Im amazed by how perfectionists you guys are when it comes to your builds, i am working on a project currently and the last thing im worrying about is a pretty dashboard 😂
Great series and I especially enjoy watching some fellow Canadians going through these meaty projects and dealing with sourcing parts and skills at home and abroad!
The grey dash came in the big stock basic/mass produced Lancers like the GLi and VRX ones. Only the EVOs 4-6 had the black interior dash (plus the MR I think).
Either repair the dash or get a proper EVO one. Would be sacrilege to put a grey dash in a CP9A 😜
In Europe the colt/mirage from 00-03 in sport version had also the black dash. Earlier models from the normal Lancer/colt/mirage had all the grey dash.
Hey Guys I can really appreciate the Bottoms Up restore ! Had a 71 SS Chevelle that got prlled from Junk yard and no lift did the same thing using JC whitney's brush on rust eater and then just did the black undercoat ! Your upgraded product look a whole lot sweeter ! And sure to last 2 times as Long !! 20 years easy !!! Lots of Love you guys are Great !
Tommyfyeah has a front clip sitting in his shop. Reach out, and see what colour his is.
Yes he does, but he is going to want all the money for it. I dont blame him.
Pretty sure he has a spare one in the uk as well.
Man can’t wait to see how this project comes along. Keep pumping these vids out, I wait for the notifications on this build. Lol
Late 90s Subaru’s are very similar to having the dash, engine and chassis harness all together. Such a pain to pull out. Awesome series.
fill up the holes and wrap it in alcantara for sure ! it will look 150% better ! i had exact the same issue and thats what it did and i love it
6:22 "further out" Pete you are officially Canadian, congratulations
Spray the dash with SEM interior dye in Landau black. Works great! Prep first with wax and grease remover, scrub and scuff with red scuff pad and dish soap water, wipe with wax and grease remover, dry, then spray with 3 even coats of the dye. It will look factory.
Hope Ohm Racing can make two separate harnesses, one engine and one chassis plus use MIL spec bulkhead connectors so you can easily split the harnesses from the bulkhead saving any dash deconstruction in the future- looking forward to seeing what they do!
This!
Also, this is a GSR. The RS from memory doesn't have AYC, as they're essentially a rally car, and AYC is outlawed for rallying.
If you can afford it, fit the RS gearbox and diffs, cos of the shorter ratios, and stronger diffs.
I believe that the grey dash came from a regular Lancer.
Pull everything that can come off from the replacement dash. Prep and paint it or flock it. Replace everything that was pulled off with the black bits from the original. Its the easiest way to get a great looking dash. Also the belly of the evo is looking mint!
Paint the grey dash, easy peasy, since it’s out of car
or wrap it in suede or something.
Welshy I like that, a nice alcantara wrap would look sweet!
Braydon Scully yea! And maybe a half dash, and put in nice pedals, and a foot board for the passenger.
Or flock it black, even easier
I think it would be die able ! No Peal !
Vinyl dye works wonders on those dashes. I dyed my blue dash black in my s14 and it looks perfect oem finish.
Colored one LHD (EVO5, but basically the same dash as 6) gray dash to black on basic market spray can stuff, worked out well.
Just many thin layers and it wouldn't wear off on the time I owned the car (2013-2016)
Yasss you guys are just awesome. Loving the work you are doing and digging this build! Great work guys. I wish your channel got more subs!
This video was yet more conformation to me that the Evo X is a much better platform. The only advantage of older Evos is the weight, but my Evo X is at 3200lbs and is still my daily. The Evo X is so easy to work on and is perfect for fixing at a stage
Blaine Petkau Yeah we all like older stuff, but sometimes the new stuff gets a lot right. Although I’ve always loved everything Honda has done since the late 80’s
Test flock the old dash, the underside came out brilliant
I didnt expect this episode to be as satisfying as it was. Great stuff!
You can plastic dye the dash black. Fill garage bin with water and the dye, then submerge the dash
I started watching this channel for the Celica...where's Connie!?!?!
And Moose! Where's Moose?
@@woopimagpie Yeah! Where's Moose?!
Mitsubishi 90s electronics and Harnesses are full of hilarious redundancies, so their harnesses become incredibly bulky.
I shaved 30lbs of wiring out of my 3000GT Trackcar. Spent weeks with all of the harnesses out of the car, peering over wiring diagram, de-pinning connectors, etc.. and it still had fully functioning head lights, turn signals, brake lights, interior lights, HVAC, etc on all Factory fuse boxes and relays... Everything to keep it a true streetcar.
You could get the holes holes more uniform, and then cut a plastic to the dimension and fit it in,plastic weld it in,and....though it may be a tad bit ricey,can hydro dip it...not necessarily carbon fibre finish,but may be even black. Or you can paint the grey one black
I remember seeing this car around my local car scene!
Guys! Get a plastic welder. Make a textured back up plate. Wax the top surface in another place. Spread some silicone on it in a 2" square spot. Apply a 2" square piece of thin aluminum plate to the silicone. Gently peel the plate up after it dries. That makes a textured mould.....Apply the plate to the top of the dash over one hole/tightly....From the bottom use the plastic welder to weld the hole shut. After it cools, gently peel the top mould plate off. It should have a really decent looking patch.
Wrap the dash in alcantara!
best is to remove all the rust with wire wheel or flap wheel , than use hydrochloric acid for the places you can't get easily to.
Make sure to neutralise and remove the acid after your done with it.
Then use zinc rich primer and than factory style undercoating and cavity wax for the inner sills and rockers.
You can also use extra wax on top of the factory style undercoating for extra moisture and salt barrier.
Other than that you're channel has great content greetings from the Netherlands
Damn man, I have an evo 5 that's been off the road for a couple of years now, and I just don't have the time or money to go through it and give it everything it needs. I hope one day I can do as good of a job as you guys.
Love the build guys. Just as a point of reference the STI had wheels on by episode 5 . Either way glad to see it’s moving along
Cover the whole top of the dash with black alcantara leather and it will cover the holes plus it won't have a shine in your eyes when driving into the sun! A lot of race car drivers do this to have no glare
I made the mistake of doing that underseal process. A year later it was all coming back through again. You need to take it back to bare metal guys and treat it with acid. Wire wheel it all. Then acid treat, The prime with zinc 182 primer, Then top coat, then your underseal/ boom matt paint. I actually did mine with POR 15, then underseal ontop.
Just flock the dash!!!! Yall will be glad you did
For the dash, use Vinyl dye, it's not quite paint and its meant to colour those types of trim pieces.
All EVO and GSR's(4g93 turbo) dashes are black, they are identical to lower spec lancers of the non turbo variety which are grey.
You can dye it black so long as it's prepped properly.
What a transformation! Love your continued great work guys!
If you're gonna flock the dash anyway just flock the grey dash and skip the plastic welding altogether, keep the other dash as a spare or resell it
you two guys and Mighty car mods collaboration would be amazing.
Oh my kingdom for a hoist like that!
Great vid and gratifying just watching too.
Plastic weld the dash and flock just the top surface of the dash. mask off a hard line that follows the contours of the dash. It could look very OEM plus!
Just flock the grey dash and be done it's already out get it flocked it will look amazing!
Love Love Love this car :) glad your getting that old maritime rust taken care of lol it's something we fight endlessly
This was a great episode. The coating seemed great. Would be great to get a follow up on how it holds after next winter.
CT sells a duplicolor interior paint that will give you a really nice oe finish but only if you really prep the dash by removing all the mold release contaminates and oils by using a good wax and grease remover
What a transformation! Awesome video guys.
We had a guy at are dealership that would fix interior on used cars. He would make a imprint of the dash textures with what looked like play doh and fill holes and cracks with icing as he called it and then put the texture back on with the play doh. Looked like it was never damaged
Vinyl and fabric dye from the parts store it works great it's in a spray can but it works
SEM products:
SEM soap, SEM vinyl prep and then the aerosols. Do a mix of landau black and satin black to get more of an oem sheen
Such great content, the fact you don't have more subscribers baffles me
Just paint the new dash black super easy and very cheap solution, use plastic bumper primer first so the paint sticks.
that gray dash is came from a mirage. all evo dash comes out in black.
That's right
Lol I'm a tech and I felt your pain when you were trying to take that harness out 😣
Best of luck when putting it back in!
On Patreon, can we have behind the scenes footage of you guys cussing these cars out... That would be too real! 😄
Nice work. Dash can be painted, I used U-Pol Plast x Number 5 colour name is Black Noir 👍
I've had good luck with SEM products as well. Is that u-pol a single stage paint or does it have an activator? I may look into that because everything I've used from them was great.
Hi guys
The Unterbodern was only half the battle for the EVO. It is much more important to preserve the cavity, especially from the frame. Mitsubishi has always had gray and black interiors Dash.
SEM color coat will dye that dash no problem, really durable on stuff like that
Pete, do a search for dashboard restoration specialist. they will totally fix that black dash and you won't be able to tell...next thing that fuel pump set-up is horrible for serviceability. i would install AN tube nuts on those hard lines. that way you won't have to drop the tank just to service the pumps...
This is a great opportunity for you guys to get a media blaster.
Great stuff. I'm actually curious to see how this build turns out because of the challenges. But the 3M Scotchbrite pads and some alchemy by Boom Mat seems almost too easy. And DP, at least where I'm from in the lower 48, we've always pronounced Celica phonetically - Sell-IK-a (so no eek) in our vernacular. Great restoration project. Can't wait to see it hit the streets.
Flock it its a Rallycar !!
fix and flock the old dash
I would love some alcantara in the interiour for some luxury vibes
Spray dye the grey dash black. Using the dye actually gets into the plastic.
Flocking is a pain, but it does make it look good if you take your time.
Using dynamat in the interior of this thing would really bring the road noise down in combination with the work you guys have just done
Zac Thurston yes another 100lbs in the car
lol, “ Thicc with two C’s” haha you guys are great, keep up the good work. looking forward to seeing the evo back in one piece
Love the details of this sti killer build. I believe the dash you bought is a early version of the evo
Loving this build! Keep up the good content!
I think flocked dashes look terrible unless you have a stripped out and caged racecar. The flocked dash wont match the door panels or anything else in the interior. Repair your black dash or paint the grey dash. SEM color coat interior paint works well.
The upload time is so early I forget to watch. Good thing it still gets recommended though.
Well this is turning into a big project real fast.
Flock the dash to black. I've done it and it looks really good!
You could always try painting the grey dash with SEM trim paint and see if it matches up
isn't any evo an sti killer from factory?
Err no
@@alanedwards3180 Yes, most definately.
Alan Edwards
If you do want to paint the dash I'd recommend SEM trim paint. It's really nice though I'd go with the carbon chargespeed.
Use some of that SEM interior dye. Ive heard its not like paint and it really penetrates the upholstery and holds up pretty decent over time
Send the dash to a interior shop and have the replacement painted or have like an alcantara fabric top glued to the top.
That came out great!! Makes me want to do the same under my galant vr4!!
get dupli-color vinyl , rubber and plastic paint and dupli-color plastic adhesion promoter and that will work great
I chopped my fuel lines to put in a AEM320 pump. Just need to make about a 1/2" or 1cm gap in the lines.
Try painting the grey dash with duplicolor vynil and fabric spray paint. $16 Canadian tire, worked for me looks pretty legit
For the dash, I’d throw some bumper plugs on there if you don’t want to deal with the extra effort
SEM 38353 Plastic Prep, SEM 39863 Plastic Adhesion Promoter, SEM Products 15243 Satin Black Color Coat will have the dash looking brand new like it was from the factory
I would do flocking to that dash...That underside looks awesome
Flock the grey dash black (as it has no holes in it) and just transfer all the Black plastics onto it off of the black one. would make a good How To Flock A Dash video
In vinyl seat repair there are methods for replicating the surface grain in the repair. Maybe something similar can be done to the dash repairs.
It would have been a good idea to remove the sill/rocker covers and rear bumper cover before doing this, just so everything is protected.
Also it would have looked OEM good if you had run 2 or three cans of the colour matched silver just to finish it.
The product does look really good.
You can get black dash’s out of the mr 1.8 lancers
Icon garage on RUclips is restoring an rx7. You should check out the pint materials he used to paint the interior.
This video isn't STI level, but it's getting there
Flock the dash, perfect rally spec!
The grey dash is from an ordinary front wheel drive Lancer (or a "Mirage" in North America) four door. The Mirage did come with a black dash but it was found in the coupes that had tan seats. I know... weird.
I would definitely attempt to plastic weld that dash and finish it up like body work and after you paint if it doesn't look good maybe incorporate some kind of carbon fiber wrap into a design of some sort so you don't have to wrap whole dash. If it comes down to it you have another dash. As far as the other dash if you prep it properly I believe you can spray it a different color and not have it flake. We pronounce Celica the same way as you...lol. Really like the channel, enjoy your content would be phenomenal if you were working on an Audi though....lol.