Lexus NX 450h+ Vs. Genesis GV70 3.5T - Korea Takes On Japan! - Redline: Comparison Test
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- The #LexusNX has been the best-selling compact luxury SUV in America and two years ago, #Lexus gave the latest NX the most comprehensive redesign in the brand’s 30+ year history. Around the same time, Hyundai’s luxury division introduced the first ever #GenesisGV70, an extremely well-rounded and luxurious rival that has enough style to wear a Bentley badge in its grille. The #GV70 is also a top seller and #Genesis has been keeping all its more legacy rivals on edge. Which one is actually the better buy?
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Happy Monday everyone! We hope you all had a great weekend and we're kicking off this week comparing two of the most popular compact luxury SUV's and it was a much closer race than you'd think! We also have a comparison video of the Lexus RX versus a BMW X5 and that video should post soon. Let us know below which of these two you would pick for yourself below!
When is Lexus giving you the TX 550h+ for a week?
@@jxmar_ We will have that car next week for testing, stay tuned! :)
@theredline, hopefully, you can compare the GLS to the TX 550h+ when that happens in the near future
@@normanli7085the GLS mops the tx inside and out before the comparison even happens 😂
@@naveenthemachine and the Mirage mops the GLS inside and out :)
What I think is cool is that the Genesis GV70 shares almost nothing with its Hyundai and Kia equivalents, the Tucson and Sportage. The GV70 rides on a Genesis-exclusive RWD platform, and it doesn't share any engines or transmissions with either of those cars. Those cars also don't offer adaptive dampers, or limited slip differentials, whereas the Genesis does, and the GV70 has standard AWD.
Lexus is very much an amazing, top-tier luxury brand, but I think Genesis does a much better job at differentiaiting their vehicles from their Hyundai and Kia equivalents when compared to Lexus and Toyota.
Lexus isn’t top tier anymore. They’re not even luxury
Hyundai Kia genesis Mazda Acura are better luxury brands than Lexus. Lexus is just Toyota+
@@naveenthemachine Yeah, Lexus is just a rebadged Toyota fr. They don’t try anymore…
True. Lexus RZ and Toyota bZ4X have identical 201hp. They even look so similar.
I agree wholeheartedly. The quality of the vehicles is top notch, HOWEVER, most Genesis dealers share space with Hyundai dealers. The sales and service experience is significantly worse than Lexus. Stand-alone Genesis dealerships are trickling in (we just got 2 in Houston - Genesis of Spring and Genesis of Southwest Houston), so I hope the experience will continue to improve with time.
@@animeXL I’d give up the dealer experience to get a better car
Genesis can have the worst dealer experience in human history and still produce better quality cars than Lexus. Lexus has the best quality luxury vehicle owner experience but genesis has the best quality luxury vehicles period
And if I were you I’d blindly choose the latter
I'm a commuter. I currently own a 2019 Genesis G70 3.3T, which I purchased new April 2019.
Currently I have over 129k miles on it, no issues.
Because I spend alot of time in my vehicle, I want something fun to drive.
I'll take the fun to drive GENESIS over the better gas mileage Lexus.
I don't really care for front wheel drive vehicles.
More head to head !
Next Month, Genesis will have a stand alone dealership opening in my area. Ontario California!😊😊
Actually the 450h+ F Sport is quicker....has adaptive suspension an a FAR better choice!!
It’s not quicker actually lol… did you watch the video ? It has a 4 cyl rav4 engine and a cvt. The genesis drives far superior.
@@codycomerford3647 No you idiot is has a …......... NOTE: This is a “NOT” repeat, not a CVT gearbox on the NX, ( many that can not afford this vehicle “try” to put it down by trying to spread this FALSE propaganda (do your research) ...this is not a CVT vehicle!)......it is an “ e-CVT “which is an epicycloidal transmission and no belt of any kind. eCVT is completely different from a cvt. eCVT doesn't use belt/band. Nothing are the same.
It's a transmission that contentiously varies, the mechanics are different but the outcome is the same !
....................... & it is much quicker out of the hole (Hands on experience) because of the torq of Three electric motors & I never buy gas however if I did I can use REGULAR...not freaK'n premium required by the Korean crap!
You should do more head to heads. This is very helpful.
Agreed! He should do it for all the luxury brands and the non-luxury brands too.
After owning NX 450h+ for the last 2 years, I've driven it 95% of the 30K miles in EV mode, and go to the gas station every 2 months to get 1/2 take of gas. Very happy with it so far.
How often do you plug it in?
How does your ownership math work out over getting a less expensive 450h?
Completely oversight of Genesis, not providing PHEV/hybrid.
Luxury or F Sport ?
Does F Sport's AVS make that much of a difference ?
@@biglee13m - Since Genesis is pulling back on the full EV plan, as many are, they are now planning on phevs for all of their models. So...coming soon.
We looked at the NX350h and the GV70 2.5T. Waited months to try the hybrid but even though it was the logical pick for comfort and efficiency, the GV70 was sooo much more of a luxurious and sporty experience.
Damn it!!! I miss a good car comparison! Bring them baaaaackkkk!
God bless Genesis for that Blue interior with Red accents!
RIGHT! Bold and loving it!
It's absolutely beautiful!
In a world of irrationality, I appreciate the clear analysis of Redline.
More of these comparisons please! Thanks as always, Sofyan!
Two weeks ago, we tested the NX450h and the GV70 2.5 Sport Prestige back to back. They had almost identical horsepower (the NX had 4 more) and neither had adaptive suspension.
I didn't like the NX interior design ethos at all. It was a hodge-podge of incompatible shapes and textures, perhaps attractive to someone raised around transformer toys and movies, but not to me. Engine and suspension performance felt disconnected and hesitant. The suspension was so off that I asked the salesman during and after the drive if the tires were improperly inflated.
We drove the GV70 a few minutes later and the experience was like night and day. The well-integrated, tasteful interior displayed a unity of textures and trim, from the knurled metallic of the primary controls to the feature line stretching from the doors, curving over the digital dash display and through the integrated air vents. Driving the GV70 was a pleasure, too, after the discombobulated NX450 ride. Acceleration was smooth, quick and quiet. Body movement was extremely well-controlled with imperceptible road noise, something I did not expect from a vehicle with 21" wheels! Finally, the GV70 was about $8000 less expensive, comparatively equipped, than the Lexus.
We also did a quick around the block torn in the NX F-Sport and GV70 3.5. The F-Sport interior was less appealing than the standard and firming up the adaptive suspension just made the ride a bit less comfortable without noticeably improving handling. Setting the GV70 to Sport and Sport+ made very noticeable changes to suspension compliance, transmission mapping and steering effort. I didn't care for the steering effort changes but the suspension did appear to sharpen turn-in and dratically reduce lean. The GV70's suspension is more sophisticated with predictive suspension adaption. However, I really didn't think the performance of either the 3.5 engine or suspension was worth the added cost.
I also don't find the GV70 seats too hard; I thought they were more supportive than the Lexus seats. But then, I really like hard, supportive seats!
Finally, I can't see how obe can call the Lexus inforainment system more advanced. Was it simply due to the lack of wireless mirroring and the longer screen reach? The GV70 software was better designed with more attractive, higher resolution screen and more logical, more comprehensive functionality. BTW, the 2025 GV70 does support wireless mirroring and apparently it will be enabled via an upcoming OTA update for 2022 through 2024 models.
We pick up our White Pearl GV70 Sport Prestige with Seville Red/Black interior next week...
Genesis is my pick. Hate that Lexus grill.
Lexus interiors are on a downward trend - cheaper, same screen sharing as other models, no longer interesting interiors - they have been surpassed by quite a few.
You only just found out now LOL?
The ONLY Lexus model I'd buy over the Genesis equivalent is the new GX over the GV80...but those don't really compete. The equivalent (on paper) is the RX or TX and it's definitely Genesis for me over those. Genesis has built nicer looking and better feeling vehicles than the Lexus.
would always choose the v6
Love a comparison test!
Been following your channel since the jump. Congrats on the 1M.
Two totally different vehicles despite the class similarity. Lexus chooses to target brand loyalty and Genesis targets luxury, progress, and fun factor. The naysayers are still going to pull from really 2000s mentalities when Hyundai/Genesis comes into question. Would really benefit from a crowd of people that aren't stuck in the past.
Yeah. Lexus isn’t relevant anymore. Every other brand has surpassed them
@@naveenthemachine ya what can you do when your brand is as stubborn as other pseudo luxury brands like Lincoln for instance.
No, we're pulling from 2020 mentalities. Genesis literally recalled the G70, G80, and G90 for spontaneous fire risk caused by engines leaking oil and causing fires. This is a 2024 recall by the way, but 🎉Go Hyundai Reliability!🎉
Genesis is more progressive, but at the end of the day, it's just Hyundai engines pushed to develop more power. And as we all know, a stressed engine makes for a very reliable vehicle.
@@ruffmadman please. The common kia/Hyundai hater isn't referring to the Genesis turbo oil feed leak recall. Especially when it's a fire risk vs the theta engine recalls where actual fires were reported. Either way They're handling the recalls much better than Hyundai and kia did in the past. Even if you coupled those recalls together they aren't anywhere near some of the more popular brands of cars that people call "reliable". Also you know nothing of the 3.3tt or other Genesis used engines if you think they're "stressed".
@@funnyguy1321 stop moving the goalpost. It's not a matter of what recall or reliability issue is being referred to. It's the fact that these issues are constantly popping up. Just looking at the past decade, it seems that there are no Hyundai Group vehicles that actually haven't been recalled for catching on fire in one form or another.
Also, the only reason why they're even addressing the Theta engine recalls was because a whistleblower that used to work at Hyundai came forward. Until that point, they were actively avoiding honoring their warranties.
Fresh video!
I'd take the Genesis over the Lexus any day. Having been in both for my money, I'd rather the GV80. An Audi Q5e is a much better hybrid to me.
Great consistency on this channel. Need more camera angles and some outside shots in the driving scenes.
I have to say, I would have to choose Genesis over Lexus
Smart choice. Lexus is ostensibly irrelevant
@@naveenthemachine there he is!!!!
@@naveenthemachineNo it’s not sweetie do your research before you speak 😅
@@naveenthemachine1:33 Did you hear that the NX was the best selling LUXURY compact crossover? Once again facts > opinion.
@@gengstar09 best selling ≠ best in class
Selling more doesn’t make a car better than the other
That’s like saying a rav4 is better than a cx5 or gv70 because it outsells each of them. But that doesn’t make the rav4 more fun to drive, faster, more luxurious, more attractive, roomier, better quality, etc.
I agree. The nx may not LOOK as luxurious as it should, but it FEELS like a luxury car. It does what a luxury car should do. Thats be comfortable and offer lots of tech for money. The Genesis may be a better performer, but we're talking like. .5 secs faster plus 150% more miles per gallon.
Granted, being a sedan guy, I'd probably skip them both and just go for a G70, tlx type s, BMW m340i or most likely an Lexus is500.
Quite a bit of price discrepancy between the is500 and tlx type s tho. Imo it should be m3 vs is500 but then the lexus is a way better deal
@@JonesyTheFirst69 To be fair, you get what you pay for. The IS has over 100 more HP. If not for AWD, it would easily be in the back of the pack. Lol
No it isn’t. Lexus isn’t luxury.
@@naveenthemachine it feels luxury when you drive it, it feels more luxury to live in, and it has more luxury features. At this price a better looking interior alone won't make or break a vehicle.
LOL funniest comment I've seen. My new Santa Fe offers everything the Lexus NX offers. I have two massive screens, dual wireless charging, dual pane sunroof, heads up display, power front and rear seats, soft touch materials on the dash, along the center console, and most of the door panels (NX has more though), ambient lighting, OTA updates, power hatch and hands free function, 360 camera with the fancy aerial sound view like in Audis, rear sun shades, two glove boxes, MASSIVE storage console that is bigger than full size pickups, AWD lock button, UV sterilization feature to clean phones, and so many other things. And fun fact it's basically as quiet as the NX and IMO rides/handles better when considering how much bigger and heavier the car is. Also it comes standard with a 277hp 310lb ft of torque turbo 4 whereas the NX has the shitty and horrific sounding 2.5l N/A 4 cylinder out of a RAV4 😂. Even funnier is the fact the Hyundai costs 10K less and offers a 3rd row that would put the newly released Lexus GX to shame.
Keep dreaming about the NX being a luxury car. It's a RAV4 with extra leather at best. That goes for most Lexus products. I will say though the hybrid phev powertrain is amazing and well thought out. Actually an appealing option but the rest of the car is extremely disappointing.
Great overview of both. Shopping for a new car and both are on my short list. The seat comparison were very helpful.
One thing not mentioned is color options. GV70 has a very nice dark blue and the NX has sporty bright blues.
Move to F-Sport and it get more sporty vs luxury looking. Blacked everywhere. Too much black for luxury car for my tastes. RX might be better comparison?
Lexus NX: If you want better fuel economy and will trade driving dynamics for it, and you want to be treated special at the dealership, not step over Hyundai shoppers to get service
GV70: You want a nicer interior, better performance, and you don't want to be driving what everybody else already has, but will trade most of the luxury sales and service
First off
1. If you want mpg don’t buy a luxury car. Get a Prius or Camry hybrid or rav4 for that.
2. Genesis will come to your house pick up your car drop off a loaner and take your gv70 to service so you won’t see the Hyundai dealer
@@naveenthemachine 1. Apparently, there are luxury shoppers who want 30+ MPG. Lexus may be your only stop in town.
2. You still have to go through Hyundai to get a Genesis, and Hyundai Financial, so there are many parts to a luxury experience. they are cutting corners, and it shows
@@InvestBetter. but those shoppers don’t realize that Toyota uses the same hybrid system from Lexus. Besides they can always get the Toyota equivalent in the top trim for less
@@naveenthemachine 1. That's incorrect, because the tuning and power levels are rarely the same between Toyota and Lexus models. 2. The Toyota system is the best hybrid system in the mainstream, and lexus' system is teh best in the luxury class, so buyers do realize they are getting the best.
@@InvestBetter. but they’re exactly the same system LOL. you’re driving a 55 or 60K Lexus with a powertrain that’s used in a 30-40k Toyota… what’s luxury about that
Great review. As one who commutes a great distance per week, I would also go with the Lexus. The extra MPG, wireless CarPlay and the reliability history seals it…
The genesis overall looks better inside out but the only thing im concerned with is long term reliability
Doesn't it come with a 10 yr warranty?
Well that's why you have the 10 year 100k miles warranty.
Additionally, fun fact, Genesis is one of the most reliable luxury brands. They've had a stellar reputation since they launched the first Genesis cars under Hyundai. No major widespread engine or trans problems. Only car I could think of is the Genesis coupe produced under Hyundai with the 2.0T. Other than that solid cars. Not as good as Lexus but right behind them. WAY better than older German cars though and likely new ones as well.
Just lease it
They love to give the warranty … they hate to stand by it … don’t do it buddy
@@Dontdoitguy As long as you don't track the car, use the correct oil and maintenance on time, and have receipts of the work being done, they literally cannot deny the warranty. Any company will do their best to deny warranty. Just make sure to have everything recorded so that they can't deny you.
Both vehicles are very well done. Good review and video. 👍 NX 450h + for me but the GV70 is well done.
Lexus any day👍👍
I wouldn't even give the Lexus consideration if I was looking for something in this class. Genesis would definitely be on the list.
You’re comparing a soggy FWD car with a RWD sport SUV. It already loses on platform alone.
You mentioned it in the beginning (but never again afterward for some reason), but you can get the GV70 as a pure EV with amazing lease deals right now. Especially since it seems like fuel economy was a big factor in your outcome.
Lexus for me. The Genesis' design is just too busy and shows very close resemblance with other brands
Genesis has one of the most unique family look.
I think I would go for the Lexus. From a SUV I just expect comfort.
Lexus NX is the class sales leader, selling about 70k per year. Genesis is showing many makers how to do modern luxury under $75k. The Genesis is definitely much more luxurious, for the same money, but their problem is the brand strength, the sales network and their refusal to invest in a luxury brand.
They are just now building out a dedicated dealer network, and that alone has held down sales, as I have been in Hyundai dealers, asking about Genesis, and the salesmanship has been abysmal. Lexus didn't make that mistake. they built out over 100 dealers, fairly quickly in the early 90's. Hyundai refused to learn from that successful blueprint
Nx the class leader!?
😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
BlackBerry was once a class leader in phones. But now Samsungs taking over and blackberry doesn’t exist
@@naveenthemachine And your point is?
Nobody remans number one forever?
Thanks, Captain Obvious.
@@InvestBetter. but Lexus is no longer relevant
Genesis Hyundai Kia are the future.
Why can't genesis put amber turn signals for the tail lights. IMO that just makes it look cheaper, like American cars.
For a newer version, just released in Korea, the turn signals go to the tail lights.
When are we getting the updated GV70? Looked like they will come with updated lights and interior with the larger screen similar to gv80
surprised he did not address that. And frankly i think the current dash/screens is superior to the big rectangle thing coming in 2025
@@joshharrison1160 Agreed 10000%
It just makes it even more generic Hyundai/Kia
For anyone that buys the Genesis and will want wireless Carplay/AA, there are adapters you can buy that give you that. Motorola makes the AA one.
He's contradicting himself, saying Genesis is beating Lexus at their own game yet Lexus sales are by far more superior
That’s due to brand recognition & loyalty
He's not contradicting anything. You just don't know common logic.
The answer is that genesis is superior. Only the mind numbed lexus fan girls say Lexus is better
A refresh for the GV70 just dropped recently! Let's see how the pre-refresh GV70 compares to it!
The Ultimate Naveen video everyone was waiting for 😂😂😂
@@naveenthemachine i just clicked the video, numb nuts.
I know this wasn’t a true “apples to apples” comparison because you didn’t have a Lexus F-Sport available to you. But I respectfully don’t agree with this comparison-a gasoline to a plug in hybrid. There are too many variables to consider with 3 electric motors, of a 4 cylinder, to a gasoline V-6. I am a big fan of the channel and maybe in the future we can see the GV70 compared to the gasoline F-Sport version - that would be a great video for sure! Keep up the great work!
You’re allowed to disagree! We do wish we had an F-Sport available at the time, a total Apples-to-Apples comparison would be a GV70 2.5T Sport to an NX 350 F-Sport, so we’ll see if we can make that happen sometime soon!
Beautiful cars
These vehicles are not really competitors. Genesis, from its inception, was building cars to offer a cheaper, more reliable alternative to German competition. That's why all Genesis vehicles are dedicated RWD platforms with powertrains similar to German base/mid offerings. Lexus took a FWD platform and made it much more premium than the Toyota it's based on. It's beautiful?, reliable and extremely efficient. But it has a CVT. Both nice cars. But not the same flavor at all, imo.
Both are really good vehicles. I researched both for over a year before I purchased the Lexus. It came down to what’s underneath. Just felt the Lexus was built to last. Genesis is gorgeous but saw some compromises in the build quality and components used. And ultimately wanted to take a step into a greener vehicle. Good choice either way..
You can't go wrong with either both have special attributes.
In my case I pick the Lexus.
Cheaper, not too far behind in acceleration and awesome fuel mileage.
My commutes are very short in average so that fuel tank will last a very long time.
The right choice is a Rav4 Prime XSE. If you are lucky to find it.
I wonder how he compares the Acura rdx to them
I love Lexus, but the Acura Mdx type s would’ve been a better comparison. Lexus likes to suit up their Toyota platforms (nothing wrong with it) but Acura atleast gives their vehicles unique touches! Genesis beats both in design though.
Genesis Mazda Acura are the only truly competitive Asian luxury brands
@@naveenthemachineand you’re wrong again. Lexus has literally coined the entire segment. Genesis could make a million more overstyled vehicles, won’t touch the refinement and heritage and reputation of a Lexus.
MDX different in size
That’s a bit of an overstatement. They’re reliable sure, but there are better driving cars for the money. It’s 2024 not 2000, Lexus isn’t the only reliable luxury brand.
@@balmainattitude but that doesn’t mean Lexus is better looking, more luxurious, loaded with state of the art tech and features, or faster, or more powerful or more fun to drive than the competition.
Best selling ≠ best in class.
Hard choice but if its just a commuter car I'm going the Lexus because of efficiency but when Genesis finally get a hybrid GV70 all the way!
The interior is beautiful and unique on the Genesis. The Lexus’ interior is just… uninspiring. It looks like every other new car.
That lexus interior looks bad. I feel like all Toyota interiors have been looking more like the budget cars than the luxury cars. Lexus used to have the best looking interiors. The LS, IS and LC500 are great examples and it's because they haven't been updated.
I have a 2016 Lexus IS 200T. It was a great interior then, and it still looks pretty decent, but I can't believe how lazy Lexus has been. The latest, yes, the 2024 year model, IS still gets the same interior with just very slight, and albeit WORSE, changes. The infotainment screen went from being integrated into a tablet style, there are glossy plastics now, etc.
I love the new IS exterior design, and I thought hard on taking the plunge, but I just couldn't get a new car and have the same interior as the car I'm driving which is almost 10 years old.
This reminds me of Infiniti. They were doing amazing back then, back when they were producing G35 and G37s. I had a 2013 G37S 6MT at one point. After the Q60 or whatever (the successor to G37) came out, I got the chance to drive a loaner while my G37 was getting its engine replaced under warranty. The Q60 had the SAME keyfob as my G37, and that keyfob had been used for many years even prior to being used for G37. The Q60 had horrible interior with black plastic all over and double screen setup. It was horrible. That's when I realized the reason why Infiniti was on the decline. They are so lazy.
I feel like Lexus is following in the footsteps of Infiniti before they became irrelevant.
@@trstnhn yeah. Infiniti still has vehicle with that horrible layout which was terrible when it was brand new. Nissan gets updated more often which is crazy
@@trstnhn agreed. Worse is that now Infiniti has surpassed Lexus
I think this is subjective though. I prefer the Lexus interior, it's so much more practical.
First off, i really hate all these silver colored bits in luxury car interiors, i find it ugly and distracting. This is why i don't like a lot of Mercedes interior.
Secondly, the infotainment screen is just in a much more better position for accessibility. In fact the whole interior arrangement looks more uniform and modern compared to the Genesis
Thirdly, it has a smaller hump in the rear, and has more head room.
While a small percentage of the materials on the Lexus interior may feel cheap, i think it's a better interior overall.
@@seunoye943 it has a smaller rear because it's fwd. The infotainment position is almost the same relative to the driver and the genesis offers a scroll wheel. I don't think it looks more modern, that's very subjective. You are paying for those silver colored bits because they are aluminum and not plastic other wise why are you buying a luxury vehicle instead of a rav4 or highlander. Older lexus models used to not be flashy but better designed and not so flat aesthetically. You are essentially describing a less expensive vehicle like a highlander or rav 4.
That Genesis interior looks amazing, I’m more of a Lexus fan but I have to admit that interior makes the Lexus look not as good. Although I have seen the Lexus in the Palomino interior option with the brown wood and it looks really really good, on par with the Genesis. I think I would prefer the more efficient and easier to use vehicle, I tend to do a lot of long commutes and I drive a lot so an efficient and comfortable vehicle is right up my alley, although the enthusiast in me definitely wants to pick the sporty side of the Genesis
Lexus = Boring🥱... that GV70 is so sexy and a BLAST to drive!🤩
as a design genesis
Koreans don't do things half assed. Hyundai Kia try very hard to fix their faults and their cars have been improving markedly every new generation of their cars. That improvement will continue and their warranty puts Hyundai Kia's money where their mouth is.
The Genesis wins on the interior & exterior but compared to a gas saver, cheaper purchase, decent power, all electric option, better infotainment & proven reliability, the NX is my choice.
Agreed.
@theredline
Sofyan, most don't know this, but the seats have adjustable firmness. From factory they are in their firmest setting, but you can deflate the internal bladder and the seats become some of the most comfortable in the class.
With regards to the review, excellent job. Genesis is the clear winner across the board, especially for a driver enthusiast. Lexus is better for people who view cars as an appliance and are cost conscious about fuel.
I believe you are referring to the 4-way lumbar and inflatable side bolsters. We were just at a Genesis event and there is no physical way to adjust the softness of the actual seat bottom cushion. In fact, we’ve never even seen a production car with that ability. Padding is padding and we’ve noticed this issue in other Genesis models as well.
@@theredline Sofyan, no. You adjust the seat cushion firmness by depressing down the (small) botton that controls the electronic thigh extender, or up (as opposed to clicking forward, or back, for the thigh extender function); this is entirely separate from the lumbar support, or the side bolsters (two separate buttons). Only the driver side has this feature, and specific button, hence the passenger seat is always on the soft side. Rear seats are also soft. Why? Because only the drivers seat has the massage function. Very early models had a software glitch later resolved with a firmware update where after completing the massage, the air bladders were left in the full position, especially in the seat cushion. If you Google around on the forums this topic is discussed at length. You are right that this is a rare feature to have on a car, but only Genesis cars with this massage function have them (ie: G70 does not).
Happy to provide some links of even a Genesis RUclips video on Seat Functionality (can search for Genesis GV80 Seat Functionality and it will be about 1 minute into the video).
As a separate side comment, I 1000% agree with you on shaming Genesis for lack of wireless AA/Carplay. It should be noted that $50-100 USB dongles do exist, and are seamless, work 98% of the time, and I've effectively never had a single day with my car without wireless AA connecting within 10 seconds of me starting the car. So once you eliminate that annoyance, the car feels perfect (minus the MPG lol).
Lexus = Boring🥱 That GV70 is so sexy and a blast to drive!🤩
This isn’t eve a real life comparison. The Lexus should have been compared to the equivalent Lincoln. These are apples versus papaya
The genesis is 69k and the Lexus is 64k but if you trade both of them in 3 years the Lexus will hold most of its value. The Lexus has better tech in the engine compare to genesis
Why do people buy cars to trade in after 3 years? That's a waste of money. Just lease if you are going to do that.
Oh, right, the most logical 21st-century human! We always buy a car just to trade it in after three years, am I right?
Lexus Hybrid Engine in Genesis chasis & interior is apparently best of both worlds, but sigh 😢
Easily taking the GV70. Leave that NX for the soccer moms
Soccer moms would hate to drive a rav4 with ugly lipstick
Soccor Moms REQUIRE RELIABILITY not a Korean tow truck!
Actually, this Korean car you're talking about, is a reliable "tow truck" !
@@donaldbanner2185 lol idc im driving the gv70
Why would it be a bad thing if the wing looked like a Chrysler ?
Gotta drive one too understand
Design wise ill go with genesis but realibility its Lexus for me.
Genesis needs better dealership
The GV70 doesn’t have much storage space. The gas mileage & range is disappointing. Also Im curious about resale & reliability.
GV70 all the way.lexus is outdated and a lot of old ladies love lexus suv..
Love my GV70! ❤ The best car ever!
Not a huge fan of the NX, but the dealer experience alone would make it the easy choice between these two. Genesis/Hyundai dealers are the worst in the business whereas Lexus are the best for sub-100k cars.
These two share something in common, both brands are critically *overrated* right now in the luxury space but I’d take the Lexus home. I prefer the NX’s styling and less gimmicky tech experience although I appreciate the stance and sportiness of the Genesis. The GV70 becomes less to look at once you reach the c-pillar the design sorta falls flat. The interior of the NX falls flat in my opinion.
What about a topped out RDX? How would that compare. For these two, I'd take the Genesis.
No matter what the competitors do to compete against Lexus
Lexus will always be on top, not only because it’s reliable comfortable but a better resale value compared to genesis which made by Hyundai. I bet you go trade those vehicles at the same time and they’ll get more money for the Lexus then the Genesis! my opinion.
Absolutely
Genesis worth nothing during trade in!
There is no always. Only idiots think like that.
Does everyone buy a car just to trade it in after a year or two, maybe three? I own a GV80, and I never thought of buying this car just so that I could trade it in after a while. Just saying.
Is it really Korea taking Japan on when Hyundai has hired German engineers and designers in order for their Genesis to compete in this space? 🤔
can’t beat em join em lmao
Especially when Genesis vehicles operate exclusively on RWD based platforms, whereas most Lexus vehicles operate on FWD platforms
All these automakers are global players. They have engineers, designers and studios everywhere.
Since the new chairman, it completely transformed.
Only if you're looking for a fancy Prius, go for Lexus.
Comparison test:
-Genesis offers everything for the price listed in the review.
-You can get this or that on this Lexus, but have to add a package or buy another trim (more $$$).
Massaging seats? 3 zone climate? Twin turbo v6? Full lcd cluster?
Nope 😂
Genisis has some bugs to work out, but thats natural , just out the gate, remember when lexus came out ? , people said it wont last , its just a prettied up Toyota.. give them a few years it will improve . come back in a few years, why put a car that been 3 years vs a car that been out since 1998 ?? lexus had time to work out there bugs let genesis do the same seems fair
My next dream suv is the Lexus ❤
GV70 always ❤🎉 Without doubt.😂
Genesis and Lexus ❤❤❤
Does anyone else CTRL+F the comments for 'naveen' to have a good laugh?
After watching your review of the GV70 and listening to your comments I knew you would pick the Lexus. Over time more and more will come over to the Hyundai/Genesis brand just like they did for Nissan/Infinity, Toyota/Lexus, and Honda/Acura.
I’d pick the genesis as it’s a better luxury brand
The gv70 is universally superior in every way
It's a close match! Hard to argue with the more comfortable seats, much better MPG, and better tech interface in the Lexus. We look forward to seeing continued improvements from Genesis tho!
@@theredline Indeed. It's awesome how competitive Genesis has gotten in just 8 years.
Genesis doesn't offer much compelling over those other brands, Toyota/Lexus was at least way more reliable than the German and American alternatives when it first came out.
What I'm saying is that they (Genesis) will get there. The same things were said when the other brands entered the market.
I own a 2024 lexus NX450h , hands down this is the best plugin hybrid so far. Go Lexus 🎉
The Toyota Group was recently caught manipulating quality tests and deceiving consumers for the past 35 years. How is this going?
I love the NX and GV70, but I don't think anyone should cross-shop these two. The GV70 was created to go after the Europeans who tend to have more aggressive vehicles, while the NX targets the simpler buyer who doesn't want something as sporty, but wants a more eco-conscious vehicle.
Eco conscious? You do realize that luxury buyers don’t care about being eco conscious
If buyers wanted the luxury of being eco conscious they shouldn’t buy a car. Or they should get a Prius or Camry hybrid instead
@naveenthemachine Believe it or not, luxury buyers who want a luxurious car that achieves high MPG numbers do, in fact, exist. The sales numbers of the Lexus NX, UX, RX, and ES hybrids are enough proof of the hybrid-luxury buyer's existence.
GENESIS ALL THE WAY!!!
TNGA platform/ architecture means nothing to most viewers because we don’t understand what those abbreviations mean
Love the review as usual! But I’d choose the GV70, no competition. If you’re looking at both of these vehicles and you’re that concerned about fuel, then maybe you shouldn’t be looking at these vehicles in the first place. Just my personal opinion. Also, the GV70 has a combustion engine. Easier to work on, much more reliable, easier and cheaper to replace. Having that many batteries assisting the engine just screams “I’ll be visiting Lexus a lot more often than I’d like”. Warranty or not, that’s just too much reliance on batteries for such a big suv.
Genesis need a Coupe to fight the RCF and LC500
The RCF is slow and the lc500 is also slow
@@naveenthemachine the rcf is majorly outdated but LC isn't really supposed to be fast
@@jaypalmer143 but it costs 100k. There are faster cars
@@naveenthemachinefaster than your moms slow v6 Camry, over 100 more horsepower and the 0-60 is 6.1 seconds and the 4cly is 7.05 seconds, Lc500 0-60 is 4.5 seconds that’s slow?
@@noahh1997 the v6 Camry does 60 in 5.6-5.8 seconds. Sofyan got a horrible launch while every other reviewer got below 6 seconds 0-60
Also 4.5 seconds on the lc500 that costs 100k yeah that’s slow. You can go so much faster in an m5 or m340i or 8 series etc. Genesis will probably have a much faster version than the LC
My heart says Genesis for the fun drive, but I would go Lexus because I’m practical. Lexus just checked every box, but the fun one. Honestly, I’m fine with that when it comes to school runs and errands. I just hate the digital door latch button thing.
The genesis is more practical than the nx.
@@naveenthemachine The Genesis is more practical only in regards to interior space (better performance isn't necessarily practical). In every other way regarding practicality it loses to the Lexus: fuel economy, reliability, maintenance costs, comfort, tech, resale value. Hybrid vehicles (especially Toyota/Lexus hybrids) are typically more reliable than ICE vehicles with less wear and tear on the engine and braking components.
@@rc1298 everything you mentioned is correct. The fuel economy alone is worth it. 2 hours a day in the car line, and we never leave town. So we could use electric 90% of the time. Other than that occasional trip to grandma’s house with the kids. Which we could probably make it there on electric and charge while we are there for the day for the drive home.
Lexus has been a remarkable luxury brand for over a decade,but they've been long lost their identity for real, too much Toyota resemblance, comes to the Genesis no comparison an absolute monster luxury brand from top to bottom, Genesis has completely separate themselves from the hyundai brand and make the difference
Agreed. Lexus is objectively irrelevant now. Genesis is the new Lexus. Lexus is the next Infiniti and blackberry
I feel like you're comparing apples to oranges here. I would compare the GV70 to the RX not the NX. The RX has everything that you're saying the NX doesn't have. Genesis doesn't have anything that directly compares to the NX. This video is kinda misleading because sure, the NX is a lesser vehicle than the GV70... It would be because they're in 2 different classes.
Hey Soyfan, great vid. Thx. What's the deal with this weird Naveen guy?
You don’t need to worry about it LOL
@@naveenthemachine Are you in your senses?
@@CallumScottieCambellhe’s special needs
Thanks! And take his words with a grain of salt. For some reason, he’s made it his mission to trash almost all Toyota and Lexus products and who knows why 🤷🏻♂️😅
@@theredline you don’t need to know why lol
Lexus all the way!! Great review
Lexus> Genesis any day.
You DID Not review the MUCH better ****450h+ "F" Sport which gas Much sporty handling with it's " ADAPTIVE SUSPENSION"
Why do luxury car makers love piano black so much? WHY?!?! NO ONE LITERALLY NO ONE LIKES IT, get rid of it please!
Maybe because they look good in pictures/videos.
I don’t trust anything coming from Hyundai … Ill go Lexus 10/10 times
Hyundai motor group just beat VW in profitability in Q1 2024 and is now only behind Toyota. They are catching up quickly and Toyota should be worried as they don't even have an electric car line up.
Well Toyotas trying to become blackberry while Hyundais becoming the next Toyota
@@naveenthemachineonly in your whacky world 🤤
I'd go for genesis
Genesis all the way, bought one of the very first 2022 GV70 3.5 Sport Prestiges back in 2021, would buy it again tomorrow. Researched the Germans and Jaguar (former owner), didn't even consider Lexus, hate their design language and cheese grate grills. Lexus makes fine boring vehicles, luxury without any driver excitement. The GV70 in comfort mode is pure luxury, in soprt/sport+ it's a fun enthusiasts ride. Lexus will get you there, Genesis will let you enjoy the ride.
Both are nicely done but odd comment cause genesis has an enlarged acura grill with chicken mesh. And not all Lexus is boring. , the IS 350/500, RC/F, LC 500, RX 500h, TX500h, LS 500 F Sport all disagree with you.
@@MikeForsythe Acura and Genesis grills are not even the same shape. Did you fail geometry?
@@trstnhn obviously you did
@@MikeForsythe either that or you are blind. Gl with life. Muted.
I'd go with the Lexus NX+ full-stop, even with the worse interior quality.
So why wouldn’t you just get a rav4? They’re literally the same car
@@naveenthemachineit is absolutely a better car than the RAV4. what are you talking about lol
@@balmainattitude no it’s not. I’ve driven both. The nx isn’t really better than the rav4
@@naveenthemachine the rav4 feels like a plastic box. and literally drives like a box. it’s okay to admit you’re biased
@@balmainattitude
You're no better tbh. I don't know why you feel the need to put the RAV4 down so much just to defend the NX. It's a really comfortable car for commuting.
Genesis is the better buy.