While the Land Cruiser's hybrid system makes it more efficient, the GX's twin-turbo V6 has a big edge when it comes to performance. If you were taking one of these out into the wilderness, which powertrain would you prefer to have pushing you along? Let us know in the comments below!
I don’t think anyone care about high speed performance in the wilderness, I wonder how the 2400 watt plug works on the land cruiser, seems like it would power up some camping equipment, does it need to be running? Or since its a hybrid just uses the battery?
You dont know fake when you see it. Magically coolant leaks disappear and they drove over some sand. Video was lame. They did mention the ultra cheap plastic interior trim, the hollow cheap feeling doors that sound like a tin can when closing, and the high price. That was an anti land Cruiser ad if anything.
The interior of a base 1958 looks and probably feels super cheap for 55k. You got the look outside and the ability but I couldn't live with a crap interior at that price.
I’m going 1958 with mods. I’ll wait until next year after the hype runs out. Local dealer has a FE they can’t sell , 3 folks backed out. My guess high rates and the overall price.
I got the LC and it’s awesome. Way more power than expected. Roomy and comfortable. Can’t lose either way but I think the LC name brand will outlast any brand .
Me too. Seen both in person. The GX seemed too feminine. The LC back battery shelf was stupid and way too much $ Holding the 200 and gonna wait till something catches my eye
I dig the 1958. Having had 5 Land Cruisers over the past 25 years it just seems the best of what a cruiser is, well built, simple (relatively), and classic looking. That being said though I was surprised by the 0-60 being slower than a 4 liter 5th gen. Having seen the new Cryiser released last year we decided if we are getting a Prado it will be the 6th gen 4Runner version and while I love the look of the new Cruiser, I have no regrets getting a 5th gen. I honestly think it has better packaging in a tidier size and it more than proven.
Westcott Designs already has a killer lift kit and 35s for the GX550. So it fixes all the approach angle issues, has way more ground clearance and much better tires for offroading. Proper rock rails and skid plates are soon to be released. I do prefer it when all this stuff comes from the factory stock so the correct answer may be the new 4Runner Trd Pro or Overtrail. But I don’t want to pay a $15k mark up so it would be Rubicon X or Ineos Grenadier….
@@topnineshow Funny thing is I thought the Ineos Grenadier was too expensive when it first came out. But Toyota fixed that when they released a 4 cylinder 4Runner badged as a LandCruiser for just a little less. Jeep hasn't helped either with their $70K Gladiator Mojave. And the GX550 has a hood that flutters, cheapened out interior compared to the older 460 and an engine that is failing main bearings.
I love the lockers and disconnectable swaybars or the system on the GX but why does the Land Cruiser only have 8.0 of clearance? My OBW has 9.something.
So close but off on some things that are no brainers and the time they put into the redesign and still missed small details is puzzling. They need a everyday day practical guy to help them with some basic stuff despite all the tech… How does 1st edition not have true ATs with all the rock rails and skid plates? Finish the theme, finish the thought process. What is the purpose of 1958? In my opinion, it should be to have all the Offroad and stuff and less thrills therefore SDM an MTS should stay. And 245s?! What good is my rear locker with tiny tires? If you want a truly less capable, cheaper SUV, get the base SR5 4 Runner and let Land Cruiser be Land Cruiser. I disagree with the engine choice for the Land Cruiser. But not having EKDSS is retarded. The land cruiser needs to be more similar to the GX and less similar to 4Runner. That’s where they messed up big-time for customers. Maybe their sales people didn’t want to hurt GX sales but that’s stupid. Both j250s they can be almost identical like 570 and j200 LC
For EKDSS and tires, I actually think the choice makes sense. They're positioning the LC as the one you buy if you want to mod. And if I'm gonna mod anything more than wheels, I'd rather have the electronic disconnect they put in the LC.
i’m only interested in gasoline cars, i have no interest in the hybrid models. can you please do more videos that show off gasoline suv’s with their optional third rows equipped instead of the two row hybrid trims?
This land cruiser prado has always compete with the GX, there’s confusion from the bigger version the land cruiser 300 which is the one that has always compete against the LX
It feels more "responsive" because of the twin turbos. I got the LC, and I hate the constant auto start stop with the hybrid system, but Id rather have the hybrid proven reliability than the 3.4. plus the LC looks better and has far greater off-road utility. Plus, I like buttons.
How can you do 2s faster 0-60 when both have the same specs (almost) in HP, Torque and weight? Also the LC has torque coming way faster due to the hybrid - or your batteries were empty when you did it and the engine was charging instead of using them?
Because HP, Torque are not fixed numbers and depend on engine RPM, turbo spinning and battery temperature for the hybrid. One does not start with the max of everything from the start! They are curves. So it all depends on those numbers changes as one moves along from 0-60 and it will be different front 60 to 70 mph for example accelerating in traffic
I'm glad you included something about on-road performance/comfort because let's be real... I don't know if I'm surprised at how similar they are or how different they are. Now can we see the GX go against an LX 600 with the 18" wheels? Probably know how it will turn out, but maybe the LX would surprise us?
Just to clarify...the Forerunner is a Toyota Hilux utility (farm vehicle) converted to an SUV 5 seat wagon. Whereas the Toyota Landcruiser 250 Prado is a dedicated SUV (more car like vehicle) designed new from the ground up. From my experience, the utility type 'farm characteristics' show through on the Forerunner - its less sophisticated than the Landcruiser 250 model? In a nutshell, the Landcruiser 250 (Prado) model is a better car than the ute like Forerunner.
Not a fan of Toyota only making hybrids. They should give other options. I would buy the Lexus only. Also how much will the battery cost to replace in the hybrid in the future?
I would take the lexus because it is quicker, more nicely finished inside, comes out to be cheaper due to all the insane markups on the Land Cruiser, and you never have to worry about one day seeing the dreaded red triangle of death on the dash (even if that is about 200,000 miles away)
Mate, I. The introduction you claim “the Land Cruiser used to lineup with the Lexus LX…” but you’re wrong. The Lexus LX IS the Land Cruiser 300, and what they’re badging and bringing over here as a Land Cruiser is the Land Cruiser Prado. They’re two different models entirely, and the Land Cruiser 300 is sold around the globe, just not in North America.
Land Cruisers had under stressed V8 engines and a 25 year service life. I don't think they designed these new LCs with that kind of service life expectation and I'm skeptical that will be likely with a 4 cylinder hybrid platform. I used to own a LC and I honestly didn't love it - the truck was pretty slow and the transmission was rough with a lot of backlash slop.
The Overtrail suspension is superior to the others with its auto disconnect sway bar and eKDSS....also rock rails and extra skids are available for GX so could have been more apples to apples. The approach angle is more limiting but if had rock sliders I think would have been more confident on obstacles....
Stay away from the kdss system. It is fragile and cannot survive Canadian winters. The road salt deactivated mine on our gx460 and Toyota quoted a repair bill of $7k. We only have 50k on the odometer and the vehicle has never been off-road.
I believe it can be reliable due to Prius engine being able to last high mileage but its the battery is might needs to be replace within 10 years and hybrid with 4x4 system is different than Prius engine system tho.
GX needs a much larger fuel tank. 21 gallons is anemic for the fuel economy it gets. I don’t know why Toyota neuters their truck platforms with itty bitty fuel tanks.
Seems pretty inaccurate to compare the what trim? The Overtrail (?) not specified, with the 1st Edition LC. So few will have access to that trim. That LC is already improved with different upgrades, should have done same on the GX then for a fair comparison!
I’m interested in the shopping mall head turning ability. Although the Gx has the badge I think it could be a tie, this is the real world and most important test for 99.9% of buyers 😅
If I heard right it's looking like Lexus GX has kept the high class kdss from my top end 2018 LC 150 Prado, and that this is better than the new system for offroad articulation with swaybar-disconnect which they now use on LC. I'm not an offroad expert and have only driven offroad to reach work sites where we have to drive on hilly and rocky trails for hiking, and in low range kdss on my 2018 LC give pretty good articulation, and in high range I'm pleased with the stable cornerings. Did they change this on LC because kdss was a less known system? In Europe kdss only was available on expencive high end LC models as far as I know. I'm not an offroad expert, but? for me kdss has been a good and impressing system. Thanks for your review.
Twin turbo V6 has bearing and turbo wastegate problems. I would wait for a few years for that GX until Toyota fixes the problems. The 2.4L 4cylinder turbo has vacuum controlled wastegate which is more easier to service and proven design. Has been on the market for 2 yrs now without issues. Pair it with the 2 electric motors of the hybrid, it's a stout powertrain, but u know those 4 cyl haters gonna keep hating on it, gets better mpg and no need for premium gas as well unlike the GX.
I wonder if they can engineer a thinner, more spread out modular battery pack system throughout the floor of the hybrids to help cut down on the load floor disparity. We had a new Sequoia Platinum in our inventory last month (already lifted and over-landed out with 20k miles), and that space behind the third row really does suffer. There already isn't much there, and as a passenger vehicle (with captains chairs no less), it doesn't seem worth being so limited to four seats to be used effectively.
Correct. I think the issue with making it thinner is the cooling system and the weight distribution in the vehicle. It looks like they are placing right above the axle.
It is only called the LandCruiser, since Toyota does not sell the real on (300 series) in the States. It really is the Land Cruiser Prado (250 series), as it known in the rest of the world.
For American with average income who wants to buy these new expensive cars just to take off road. Most people buying Toyota, Lexus brands because they are known for quality, reliability and longevity. With these new engines, times will tell! Even though these engines are not that new but not long enough to be proven out besides as I know they did have some issues with other’s same engine.
Definitely the hybrid Toyota! The V6 is experiencing issues right now. Given how content Toyota is with their brand image, how long it will take to sort out problems.
The engines you speak about were built at a different location than the new GX V6 engine. The GX engine has better components and built at the Tahara Plant in Japan. Some of the Toyota Tundra pickup trucks with faulty twin-turbo V6 engines were built in San Antonio, Texas. Toyota is recalling over 100,000 Tundra and Lexus LX vehicles from the 2022 and 2023 model years due to concerns that machining debris may be damaging the engines.
For the same price, LEXUS all the way. We all know that the majority of the Lexus buyer will never venture into a sandy road let alone Moab. The breaking example of the Toyota was pretty scary considering this will bound to happen at one time or another during ownership
So if Tundra, LX600 and LS500 all have some serious issues with engines - and no fix for 3 yrs so far (so I've heard) - will GX550 experience the same? Considering it's a fairly new and not many (if any) have managed more than couple hundred or thousand miles so far... I was considering GX550 but hearing about these horror stories and issues - I'm waiting...
Owners of the GX have already reported engine failure. Tundra and GX both have a bearing that can go out, requiring a full rebuild. There are videos on youtube explaining in detail what is going on. The bearing is a "bridge design" that is supposed to be better and stronger -- but it is currently a weak point.
@@Toe_Knee_69 ok, but they haven't made or sold that many (for GX and LX ... not sure about Tundra) thus the ratio of "failure" is high. I've looked into it a bit deeper and from what I saw - mechanical design issue. However, in a probably worst place - dynamic loading. The thing is - I really want them to be good and reliable - because that was/is 90% of the reason I am considering GX. Ok, off-road ability is another 10%.
@@glow4417 Yeah, I saw few videos where they are pointing to those bearings - and the issue (I believe) is - it may not be as easy to fix it (for cheap) since it's a dynamic loading area so it has to be perfect.
Nice video. After watching your driving technique using overhand steering, may I recommend you have a professional or a law enforcement officer teach you slip-handling steering instead. This technique is favorable because it eliminates your arms getting twisted up which gives you way less control.
I am thinking GX550 Overtrail+ second hand, after Toyota fixes the main bearing problems will be the best option for those of us that use these things offroad. New Lexus buyers seem to be excellent about maintenance and having the vehicle serviced at the dealership on time. Per Approach angle and skids.... First thing I a m doing when I buy one of these things is installing an aftermarket winch bumper, and aftermarket skids from soneone like BudBuilt.
Fantastic Comparison! Hit all the right notes and points and something that would be a decider for the ones wanting to gain more knowledge on the off-road capabilities of these both! Although I love the Lexus, it is the LC for me, ultimately best of both worlds, with the 4 cylinder hybrid and a turbo, you get efficiency, torque and power all together with the off-road goodies, and mahn those double lockers and sway-bar disconnect functions are super appreciated and feel so dedicated coming on this Cruiser from Toyota! Cheers! Great Video Again! ❤
This was a great review, really like the real world testing. I like the Land Cruiser front end styling better than Lexus, plus touch button climate controls and lack of underbody shielding has pretty much made up my mind. Can you tow either vehicle 4 wheels down like a Jeep GC?
Right now I would pick the landcruiser. The TT V6 has main bearing issues that toyota hasnt fixed yet meaning it's still occurring. I wonder what their official statement of all the engine failures is. Are they trying to fix it? Or just pay for buybacks and short block repairs?
Pretty sure the 4runner, LC, GX, and LX all have the exact same wheelbase. Kinda dumb because most compact crossover have more passanger room especially for the 2nd row
Wow, thank you very much for the professionalism and real off-road operations. The hill seemed too nice to me and not too difficult for other vehicles. Interesting but old Prados cost it. ? In my opinion, the Toyota needs a 2.5 inch ground clearance in order to go on off-road adventures. Not every driver will behave with care that has such a vehicle.
Landcruiser looks way better GX is weirdly starting to date in appearance 4cylinder engine will be more serviceable long term A better buy for 55k would be the current 4Runner TRD pro
It’s a good comparison since both come like this from the factory, it's like saying that they have to put rock sliders and a longer skid plate on the GX so that they can be compared better
They’re both good. But Lexus has a advance tech. Money wise, I go for Land Cruiser. But for more fun more advance tech, I go for Lexus. Both reliable and bullet proof. That’s why I have two ( Lexus and Toyota).😁 The Legend still the king ( Land Cruiser).😁
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While the Land Cruiser's hybrid system makes it more efficient, the GX's twin-turbo V6 has a big edge when it comes to performance. If you were taking one of these out into the wilderness, which powertrain would you prefer to have pushing you along? Let us know in the comments below!
Neither. I'd get a Rivian - which is vastly more capable, comfortable, and luxurious. Also vastly cheaper to run + 175,000 powertrain warranty.
Neither of them
@@TheBowerbird that wasn't even the question. There was two answers: A) gx550 B) Landcruiser. There was no C) insert your own choice 😂
I don’t think anyone care about high speed performance in the wilderness, I wonder how the 2400 watt plug works on the land cruiser, seems like it would power up some camping equipment, does it need to be running? Or since its a hybrid just uses the battery?
GX Twin-turbo, no need to worry about hybrid system.
Throttle house essentially made a perfect ad for the LC. Even though it’s the 250 and has a hybrid 4, it got bashed, leaked like crazy and still ran.
You dont know fake when you see it. Magically coolant leaks disappear and they drove over some sand. Video was lame. They did mention the ultra cheap plastic interior trim, the hollow cheap feeling doors that sound like a tin can when closing, and the high price. That was an anti land Cruiser ad if anything.
2” lift on the gx w 35s and she’s perfect. No morr worrying on the pipes
Both a great SUV but if I have to choose i go with Lexus GX because of ride and quality it gives
You better start looking around, that "quality" is lacking.
@@MercOnecould always go European 😂. HELL NO!
@@MercOnecompared to the Toyota? I’d prefer for it not to sound like I have the windows down 24/7. No thanks. Been through that already.
With these markups that the dealerships are charging for the new 250 LC prado, it doesn’t make sense when you can get a better GX for the $$$.
don't lexuses have markups too?
@@____-gy5mqtried to get a GX for my bday in April and every dealer had a $20k markup
@@____-gy5mqnot as much. Lexus customers seem to be more savvy and aware of wasteful spending
I think the Land Cruiser 1958 is really the main winner in the comparison with pricing at 55k
I am looking to for one but impossible to find one without markup
The interior of a base 1958 looks and probably feels super cheap for 55k. You got the look outside and the ability but I couldn't live with a crap interior at that price.
55k with 20k markup..ahahha
Yeah naw. Close but want MTS and SDM which they could’ve done for 1958 and kept the price the same and gave us a better value
I’m going 1958 with mods. I’ll wait until next year after the hype runs out. Local dealer has a FE they can’t sell , 3 folks backed out. My guess high rates and the overall price.
I got the LC and it’s awesome. Way more power than expected. Roomy and comfortable. Can’t lose either way but I think the LC name brand will outlast any brand .
Nicely done, I've been waiting for this comparison. Short Sharp Concise and hit all the points!
The only reason for LC's existence is to boost GX's sales... Toyota is so smart!
Where can we find the video on Land Cruiser vs GX on road driving? You showed a clip of braking, etc. but I cannot find the full video.
Sticking with my LC 200 with the 5.7 V8.
Me too. Seen both in person.
The GX seemed too feminine. The LC back battery shelf was stupid and way too much $
Holding the 200 and gonna wait till something catches my eye
@@ssing7113You look too feminine
@@ssing7113theres a LC300 in the middle east ,also a lexus LX a new one you gotta see it
Sticking with 16 mpg on premium gas too 😂
No V6 or V8, not a LC! Shame on Toyota!
This engine is quite similar to the Tundra’s. However they made a lot of changes due to the current fails in some Tundra models.
I dig the 1958. Having had 5 Land Cruisers over the past 25 years it just seems the best of what a cruiser is, well built, simple (relatively), and classic looking. That being said though I was surprised by the 0-60 being slower than a 4 liter 5th gen. Having seen the new Cryiser released last year we decided if we are getting a Prado it will be the 6th gen 4Runner version and while I love the look of the new Cruiser, I have no regrets getting a 5th gen. I honestly think it has better packaging in a tidier size and it more than proven.
Westcott Designs already has a killer lift kit and 35s for the GX550. So it fixes all the approach angle issues, has way more ground clearance and much better tires for offroading. Proper rock rails and skid plates are soon to be released.
I do prefer it when all this stuff comes from the factory stock so the correct answer may be the new 4Runner Trd Pro or Overtrail. But I don’t want to pay a $15k mark up so it would be Rubicon X or Ineos Grenadier….
The Ineos is awesome. Aesthetically, I hate ONLY it's center-mounted gauges/instrument cluster 😢😢. Otherwise, great value for money.
@@topnineshow Funny thing is I thought the Ineos Grenadier was too expensive when it first came out. But Toyota fixed that when they released a 4 cylinder 4Runner badged as a LandCruiser for just a little less. Jeep hasn't helped either with their $70K Gladiator Mojave. And the GX550 has a hood that flutters, cheapened out interior compared to the older 460 and an engine that is failing main bearings.
I love the lockers and disconnectable swaybars or the system on the GX but why does the Land Cruiser only have 8.0 of clearance? My OBW has 9.something.
So close but off on some things that are no brainers and the time they put into the redesign and still missed small details is puzzling. They need a everyday day practical guy to help them with some basic stuff despite all the tech…
How does 1st edition not have true ATs with all the rock rails and skid plates? Finish the theme, finish the thought process.
What is the purpose of 1958? In my opinion, it should be to have all the Offroad and stuff and less thrills therefore SDM an MTS should stay. And 245s?! What good is my rear locker with tiny tires? If you want a truly less capable, cheaper SUV, get the base SR5 4 Runner and let Land Cruiser be Land Cruiser.
I disagree with the engine choice for the Land Cruiser. But not having EKDSS is retarded. The land cruiser needs to be more similar to the GX and less similar to 4Runner. That’s where they messed up big-time for customers. Maybe their sales people didn’t want to hurt GX sales but that’s stupid. Both j250s they can be almost identical like 570 and j200 LC
For EKDSS and tires, I actually think the choice makes sense. They're positioning the LC as the one you buy if you want to mod. And if I'm gonna mod anything more than wheels, I'd rather have the electronic disconnect they put in the LC.
i’m only interested in gasoline cars, i have no interest in the hybrid models. can you please do more videos that show off gasoline suv’s with their optional third rows equipped instead of the two row hybrid trims?
This land cruiser prado has always compete with the GX, there’s confusion from the bigger version the land cruiser 300 which is the one that has always compete against the LX
Both are adorable soft roaders for Costco
Someehere, a Noble Arabian Shiek: "The Lexus does better in the sand!" *Crowd begins cheering*
It feels more "responsive" because of the twin turbos. I got the LC, and I hate the constant auto start stop with the hybrid system, but Id rather have the hybrid proven reliability than the 3.4. plus the LC looks better and has far greater off-road utility. Plus, I like buttons.
How can you do 2s faster 0-60 when both have the same specs (almost) in HP, Torque and weight? Also the LC has torque coming way faster due to the hybrid - or your batteries were empty when you did it and the engine was charging instead of using them?
Because HP, Torque are not fixed numbers and depend on engine RPM, turbo spinning and battery temperature for the hybrid. One does not start with the max of everything from the start! They are curves. So it all depends on those numbers changes as one moves along from 0-60 and it will be different front 60 to 70 mph for example accelerating in traffic
Probably because the land cruiser is heavier, has two less gears and 25 less hp. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the GX was making more than 349 hp
really love this, thanks for this video!
I'm glad you included something about on-road performance/comfort because let's be real... I don't know if I'm surprised at how similar they are or how different they are. Now can we see the GX go against an LX 600 with the 18" wheels? Probably know how it will turn out, but maybe the LX would surprise us?
Just to clarify...the Forerunner is a Toyota Hilux utility (farm vehicle) converted to an SUV 5 seat wagon. Whereas the Toyota Landcruiser 250 Prado is a dedicated SUV (more car like vehicle) designed new from the ground up. From my experience, the utility type 'farm characteristics' show through on the Forerunner - its less sophisticated than the Landcruiser 250 model?
In a nutshell, the Landcruiser 250 (Prado) model is a better car than the ute like Forerunner.
Not a fan of Toyota only making hybrids. They should give other options. I would buy the Lexus only. Also how much will the battery cost to replace in the hybrid in the future?
I would take the lexus because it is quicker, more nicely finished inside, comes out to be cheaper due to all the insane markups on the Land Cruiser, and you never have to worry about one day seeing the dreaded red triangle of death on the dash (even if that is about 200,000 miles away)
Mate, I. The introduction you claim “the Land Cruiser used to lineup with the Lexus LX…” but you’re wrong. The Lexus LX IS the Land Cruiser 300, and what they’re badging and bringing over here as a Land Cruiser is the Land Cruiser Prado. They’re two different models entirely, and the Land Cruiser 300 is sold around the globe, just not in North America.
Thanks captain obvious.
@@dubprocesslbc very few things are obvious when you’re reporting to the public. And assuming they do makes an Ass out of U and Me.
That's what he's saying lol. The north American Land Cruiser used to line up with the LX, now it lines up with the GX.
Yeah thats exactly what he said.
They are all based on TNGA-F and all share the same wheelbase and track width. The lines have blurred significantly between the LC Prado and the LC.
GX getting hybrid later this year? If so, I'm waiting.
There is 2.4t V4 with hybrid system GX in China. Not sure if it is the same in the US.
Land Cruisers had under stressed V8 engines and a 25 year service life. I don't think they designed these new LCs with that kind of service life expectation and I'm skeptical that will be likely with a 4 cylinder hybrid platform. I used to own a LC and I honestly didn't love it - the truck was pretty slow and the transmission was rough with a lot of backlash slop.
This guy is a really good reviewer. Keep it up
bro what does that 4 cyl hybrid gets to compete with the twin turbo v6
I’m glad I’m going with the LC.
The Overtrail suspension is superior to the others with its auto disconnect sway bar and eKDSS....also rock rails and extra skids are available for GX so could have been more apples to apples. The approach angle is more limiting but if had rock sliders I think would have been more confident on obstacles....
It also have an Adaptive Variable Suspension worth about $6k more than a regular suspension (?)
Stay away from the kdss system. It is fragile and cannot survive Canadian winters. The road salt deactivated mine on our gx460 and Toyota quoted a repair bill of $7k. We only have 50k on the odometer and the vehicle has never been off-road.
Overtrail plus does not come with full set of skid plates? Wth
The real question is: will the LC 250 engine be as reliable as the older gen LCs? Can it last over 300k miles being a 4 cylinder turbo hybrid engine?
I believe it can be reliable due to Prius engine being able to last high mileage but its the battery is might needs to be replace within 10 years and hybrid with 4x4 system is different than Prius engine system tho.
Gas on gx 550 is premium gas or regular?
Premium recommended by manufacturer
LC and GX are premium gas
@@rycophotographynot recommended, compulsory. Otherwise risk warranty not covering. A dealer had a video with those details.
Awesome but there are none available in Canada.
A concise and thorough comparison. Much appreciated.
When that hybrid gets rear-ended the battery fire should be brilliant and long lasting 😂😂😂
@edmundscars did you say the GX is getting a hybrid power train later *this year*?
Where’s this area at?
However, for overtrailing, what's the range for both of these vehicles?
Can you let me know the location of the off-road comparison test?
GX needs a much larger fuel tank. 21 gallons is anemic for the fuel economy it gets. I don’t know why Toyota neuters their truck platforms with itty bitty fuel tanks.
Seems pretty inaccurate to compare the what trim? The Overtrail (?) not specified, with the 1st Edition LC. So few will have access to that trim. That LC is already improved with different upgrades, should have done same on the GX then for a fair comparison!
how many percentage people drive off road?
The Lexus GX550 is based on Toyota Land Cruiser 300 not on J250 or Prado models for the Phillipines it comes with Toyota logo on the grille .
On one hand the 3.4 V6 is having issues, but does the fact that the GX550 is made in Japan suggest it will have less issues? We’ll see…
I’m interested in the shopping mall head turning ability. Although the Gx has the badge I think it could be a tie, this is the real world and most important test for 99.9% of buyers 😅
Is this the overtrail model?
If I heard right it's looking like Lexus GX has kept the high class kdss from my top end 2018 LC 150 Prado, and that this is better than the new system for offroad articulation with swaybar-disconnect which they now use on LC. I'm not an offroad expert and have only driven offroad to reach work sites where we have to drive on hilly and rocky trails for hiking, and in low range kdss on my 2018 LC give pretty good articulation, and in high range I'm pleased with the stable cornerings. Did they change this on LC because kdss was a less known system? In Europe kdss only was available on expencive high end LC models as far as I know. I'm not an offroad expert, but? for me kdss has been a good and impressing system. Thanks for your review.
The 3.4l v6 scares me on the GX. Lots of reports of it failing in the Tundra, even the 2024 models.
Isn't that the i-ForceMax one that fails?
@@TraumatreeCar Guy online did a video on it. The death of a legend. The engines are ticking time bonbs.
So far 3.5L V6 introduced in 2022 is going strong i dont know where you getting these reports....
4 reports of lx600 with ttv6 failing.
Twin turbo V6 has bearing and turbo wastegate problems. I would wait for a few years for that GX until Toyota fixes the problems. The 2.4L 4cylinder turbo has vacuum controlled wastegate which is more easier to service and proven design. Has been on the market for 2 yrs now without issues. Pair it with the 2 electric motors of the hybrid, it's a stout powertrain, but u know those 4 cyl haters gonna keep hating on it, gets better mpg and no need for premium gas as well unlike the GX.
I wonder if they can engineer a thinner, more spread out modular battery pack system throughout the floor of the hybrids to help cut down on the load floor disparity. We had a new Sequoia Platinum in our inventory last month (already lifted and over-landed out with 20k miles), and that space behind the third row really does suffer. There already isn't much there, and as a passenger vehicle (with captains chairs no less), it doesn't seem worth being so limited to four seats to be used effectively.
Correct. I think the issue with making it thinner is the cooling system and the weight distribution in the vehicle. It looks like they are placing right above the axle.
so you slap a set of larger tires on both and it all equals out.
It is only called the LandCruiser, since Toyota does not sell the real on (300 series) in the States. It really is the Land Cruiser Prado (250 series), as it known in the rest of the world.
Great review - the only thing you overlooked is the 120Lbs cargo max above the battery in the LC. Kind of a big deal. That's minimal cargo.
That weight rating applies to the plastic end compartment, not overall platform area.
Good video. Nice comparisons. You win with either vehicle
For American with average income who wants to buy these new expensive cars just to take off road. Most people buying Toyota, Lexus brands because they are known for quality, reliability and longevity. With these new engines, times will tell! Even though these engines are not that new but not long enough to be proven out besides as I know they did have some issues with other’s same engine.
Definitely the hybrid Toyota! The V6 is experiencing issues right now. Given how content Toyota is with their brand image, how long it will take to sort out problems.
exactly, twin turbo V6 massive problems with motor bearing, requiring full motor rebuild.
The engines you speak about were built at a different location than the new GX V6 engine. The GX engine has better components and built at the Tahara Plant in Japan. Some of the Toyota Tundra pickup trucks with faulty twin-turbo V6 engines were built in San Antonio, Texas. Toyota is recalling over 100,000 Tundra and Lexus LX vehicles from the 2022 and 2023 model years due to concerns that machining debris may be damaging the engines.
@@glow4417not the same V6, the Toyota Tundra V6 TT is garbage.
For the same price, LEXUS all the way. We all know that the majority of the Lexus buyer will never venture into a sandy road let alone Moab. The breaking example of the Toyota was pretty scary considering this will bound to happen at one time or another during ownership
I am waiting for my LC, PP to arrive, do not like the front end on the GX, quality of both are exceptional.
I'm surprised how you put a positive spin on 8in of ground clearance. I'm pretty sure you'd criticize it on any other so-called off-road vehicle.
Any chance that Toyota will make any minor changes prior to releasing to the market?
Your job is so awesome.
So if Tundra, LX600 and LS500 all have some serious issues with engines - and no fix for 3 yrs so far (so I've heard) - will GX550 experience the same? Considering it's a fairly new and not many (if any) have managed more than couple hundred or thousand miles so far... I was considering GX550 but hearing about these horror stories and issues - I'm waiting...
Owners of the GX have already reported engine failure. Tundra and GX both have a bearing that can go out, requiring a full rebuild. There are videos on youtube explaining in detail what is going on. The bearing is a "bridge design" that is supposed to be better and stronger -- but it is currently a weak point.
Probably because it’s 5-10 bad apples out of 100,000+ vehicles sold
@@Toe_Knee_69 ok, but they haven't made or sold that many (for GX and LX ... not sure about Tundra) thus the ratio of "failure" is high. I've looked into it a bit deeper and from what I saw - mechanical design issue. However, in a probably worst place - dynamic loading. The thing is - I really want them to be good and reliable - because that was/is 90% of the reason I am considering GX. Ok, off-road ability is another 10%.
@@glow4417 Yeah, I saw few videos where they are pointing to those bearings - and the issue (I believe) is - it may not be as easy to fix it (for cheap) since it's a dynamic loading area so it has to be perfect.
You said they were close in price, what do you mean, I see about 20k price difference.
Whered you get that number from
@@frostramen4143 when you go to the dealer to purchase it. I can get the LC for $50k but the GX no where near $70k
Both are so attractive that it is difficult to choose.
Toyota's reliability is unmistakable!
Nice video. After watching your driving technique using overhand steering, may I recommend you have a professional or a law enforcement officer teach you slip-handling steering instead. This technique is favorable because it eliminates your arms getting twisted up which gives you way less control.
What is slip-handling steering? Couldn’t find anything explaining it online
Great review!
I am thinking GX550 Overtrail+ second hand, after Toyota fixes the main bearing problems will be the best option for those of us that use these things offroad. New Lexus buyers seem to be excellent about maintenance and having the vehicle serviced at the dealership on time.
Per Approach angle and skids.... First thing I a m doing when I buy one of these things is installing an aftermarket winch bumper, and aftermarket skids from soneone like BudBuilt.
@islandhopper100 The Lexus LX600 is the J300 Land Cruiser, and is sold in the USA.
@islandhopper100 LX600 is literally the J300 Land Cruiser, just with Lexus badges.
which car is more reliable?
So basically rebadging vehicles was something manufacturers used to do. But consumers could see through the thin veil. This is weak.
I’ll stick to my V8 GX
What a comprehensive comparison 😸🙌👏
Wicked. Can’t wait to race yall in the 6.0 excursion 2wd. Not lifted. But I’m bumping 2 15s
I wish if you could also compare t.Diesel Hybrid LC the kind we gonna get here Down Under!
I wonder why toyota didn't put more aggressive tires on the land cruiser
Eight inches of ground clearance? Some Subarus have more than that!
You said the Lexus GX has EKDSS... then you said it has a leather interior... incorrect... the EKDSS models cannot get leather...
Fantastic Comparison! Hit all the right notes and points and something that would be a decider for the ones wanting to gain more knowledge on the off-road capabilities of these both!
Although I love the Lexus, it is the LC for me, ultimately best of both worlds, with the 4 cylinder hybrid and a turbo, you get efficiency, torque and power all together with the off-road goodies, and mahn those double lockers and sway-bar disconnect functions are super appreciated and feel so dedicated coming on this Cruiser from Toyota!
Cheers! Great Video Again! ❤
I’m not going off road. For me, the GX550 without a doubt. (…and besides, I’ve already got an FJ).
15:56 That emergency stop to test the braking was so smooth with the Lexus GX but the Toyota LC250 looked dodgy. 🫣
This was a great review, really like the real world testing. I like the Land Cruiser front end styling better than Lexus, plus touch button climate controls and lack of underbody shielding has pretty much made up my mind. Can you tow either vehicle 4 wheels down like a Jeep GC?
It's weird that the Lexus gets Toyo tires and the LC gets less aggressive Michelins
Right now I would pick the landcruiser. The TT V6 has main bearing issues that toyota hasnt fixed yet meaning it's still occurring. I wonder what their official statement of all the engine failures is. Are they trying to fix it? Or just pay for buybacks and short block repairs?
any idea what % of motors are affected by the main bearing issues?
@@dalejacques3142 no clue. But I saw somewhere on the tundra forums that it's growing and the 2024s are affected still
For me, it’s a no-brainer the V6 twin turbo!
Toyota Land Cruiser Prado only 5000 to be build globally limited edition in right & left hand drive markets .
Pretty sure the 4runner, LC, GX, and LX all have the exact same wheelbase. Kinda dumb because most compact crossover have more passanger room especially for the 2nd row
Check parts price differences….. that’s where the big differences are.
Wow, thank you very much for the professionalism and real off-road operations. The hill seemed too nice to me and not too difficult for other vehicles. Interesting but old Prados cost it. ? In my opinion, the Toyota needs a 2.5 inch ground clearance in order to go on off-road adventures. Not every driver will behave with care that has such a vehicle.
Landcruiser looks way better
GX is weirdly starting to date in appearance
4cylinder engine will be more serviceable long term
A better buy for 55k would be the current 4Runner TRD pro
3 rows only offered in the Lexus though!
Those Prados do look nice. But I’ll stick to my LC 200 series
Where is this place?
Should be mentioned that rock sliders come as a factory option on the GX
Great test, but should have equalized the tires for this. LC has Michelin LTX Trail and GX has Toyo ATs.
It’s a good comparison since both come like this from the factory, it's like saying that they have to put rock sliders and a longer skid plate on the GX so that they can be compared better
Since the Lexus engine was just recalled for some serious issues (in other vehicles, same engine) the Cruiser becomes the only choice. For now.
They’re both good.
But Lexus has a advance tech.
Money wise, I go for Land Cruiser.
But for more fun more advance tech, I go for Lexus.
Both reliable and bullet proof.
That’s why I have two ( Lexus and Toyota).😁
The Legend still the king ( Land Cruiser).😁